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This Week in TestingBreaking news about breaking news Ep 87In Episode 87 of This Week in Testing, we celebrate a unique "breaking news" moment from within the Ministry of Testing community.Hosted by Simon Tomes and Rosie Sherry, with guests Ben Dowen, Mariem SAFI, and Nataliia Burmei, this episode offers practical discussions for testers and quality engineers.Key topics include:Insights from the Katalon Testing Summit: why manual testing remains critical even as automation grows.A reframing of automation strategy: focusing on automating tasks rather than automating only tests.New Ministry of Testing initiatives, including MOT Profile Verification and the expanded Community Stars program...2025-04-281h 02
This Week in TestingWhere have all the junior quality roles gone? Ep 83Join hosts Demi Van Malcot and Simon Tomes as they explore pressing questions with Mariem Safi, Amandine Douguedroit, Maneesh Maddala, Emily O'Connor, and MoT founder/CEO Rosie Sherry. From hiring gaps to mentorship, frameworks, and tackling stressful work realities, this episode is packed with honest chat and community insights.As one attendee put it, “It’s a dynamic, energizing session!” Dive into the conversation now via Ministry of Testing's Exclusive 'This Week in Testing' podcast 2025-03-2157 min
Heavybit PodcastsEp. #14, Quality Culture with Rosie Sherry of Ministry of TestingIn episode 14 of How It’s Tested, Eden Full Goh speaks with Rosie Sherry, founder of the Ministry of Testing, about her journey building one of the largest communities in software testing. Rosie shares insights on how testing roles have evolved, the impact of AI, and the importance of fostering a company-wide culture of quality. Tune in for a deep dive into the future of testing and quality assurance.The post appeared first on Heavybit.2024-11-1941 min
Heavybit Podcast Network Master FeedHow It's Tested - Ep. #14, Quality Culture with Rosie Sherry of Ministry of TestingIn episode 14 of How It’s Tested, Eden Full Goh speaks with Rosie Sherry, founder of the Ministry of Testing, about her journey building one of the largest communities in software testing. Rosie shares insights on how testing roles have evolved, the impact of AI, and the importance of fostering a company-wide culture of quality. Tune in for a deep dive into the future of testing and quality assurance.2024-11-1841 min
Hope & Possibilties: A Love Letter to the Future of WorkCommunity with Rosie SherryShow Notes: Building Community with Rosie Sherry In this episode, Nola Simon interviews Rosie Sherry, a community expert and founder of Ministry of Testing and Rosieland. Key Topics: - Rosie's journey into community building, starting with local tech meetups in Brighton - The growth of Ministry of Testing from a small project to a global community - Challenges and opportunities in running in-person conferences post-pandemic - Creating inclusive spaces for introverts and neurodivergent individuals at events - The impact of AI on online communities and content moderation - Building custom community platforms vs...2024-11-131h 00
This Week in TestingThis Week in Testing - Episode 59 - TestBash Special!Interviews:Diana Dromey – Event Producer at Ministry of Testing, shares thoughts on successful event planning.* Ashutosh Mishra & Danny Dainton – Discuss their experiences, key takeaways, and the amazing food!Rahul Parwal – Talks about launching his new AI-focused course, "Prompting for Testers", and the benefits of community learning.Jenna Charlton – Reflects on the importance of community connections and her journey with TestBash.Rosie Sherry – Founder and CEO of Ministry of Testing, shares advice for those looking to get more involved in the testing community.James Wadley – Talks about overcoming introversion and finding connections within the testing community.Hannah Reynolds – Introduces Women in Test, a commun...2024-10-2959 min
Hope & Possibilties: A Love Letter to the Future of WorkCommunity with Rosie SherryHere are the show notes based on the transcript: Show Notes: Building Community with Rosie Sherry In this episode, Nola Simon interviews Rosie Sherry, a community expert and founder of Ministry of Testing and Rosieland. Key Topics: - Rosie's journey into community building, starting with local tech meetups in Brighton - The growth of Ministry of Testing from a small project to a global community - Challenges and opportunities in running in-person conferences post-pandemic - Creating inclusive spaces for introverts and neurodivergent individuals at events - The...2024-10-1052 min
Power To Speak with Confidence. Conversations that will inspire and empower.Community IS the Business! Rosie Sherry explains how community is about connection and not ROI. #57"To be community-led is to have community at the centre of our decisions."
Rosie Sherry is the founder and CEO of the Ministry of Testing, the leading community of practice for software testing professionals. She’s an expert at community building and writes and researches around the subject via Rosie.land.
She advocates for community building, indie-pendence for life choices, neurodivergence and home education.
I saw Rosie on stage recently where she spoke about the importance of community and the role it plays in uniting people and shaping business.
We discussed her...2024-08-0734 min
You Are The MediaYATM Creator Day 24 | The Wider Community Angle with Rosie Sherry & Liam TomsRosie and Liam both have time on the stage for Creator Day and come from two community perspectives. Liam as someone who is very much part of the YATM family and Rosie who dedicates her time, thought and effort to community as a practice.2024-04-1619 min
Parents Who ThinkAre we Creating Mollycoddled Kids? Part 3 Join us for the last episode of this meaty debate on “Are we Creating Mollycoddled Kids”?! Our three guests certainly don’t shy away from tough questions as they share their candid insights on mollycoddling. From dissecting its impact on society to the rise of entitled kids, we confront the consequences head-on in our "IF THIS THEN THAT" segment. Tune in to discover the ONE HABIT each of our guests has developed in response to their stance on coddling children. Peek behind the scenes as we explore how these deeply held beliefs inform their day-to-day actions.2024-03-2345 minParents Who ThinkAre we Creating Mollycoddled Kids? Part 2Last episode on Parents Who Think, we threw down the start of the debate on whether we're making our kids too soft. If you missed it, don't sweat it. If you’ve never listened into a PWT debate you can catch up on details in a quick 10-minute episode, telling you how these PWT debates roll and meet host, Danusia Malina-Derben. But if you're in a rush, just dive into this episode where Danusia and three parents get real about whether we're coddling our kids too much. In this episode, we kick things off by defi...2024-03-1641 minParents Who ThinkAre we Creating Mollycoddled Kids? Part 1Welcome to another Parents Who Think debate, where we dive deep into the hot topics of parenting. This episode, we're kicking off the "Are we Creating Mollycoddled Kids?" debate, and it's set to be quite the ride! If you're new to Parents Who Think, don't sweat it. In this 10-minute episode, we'll give you the lowdown on how PWT debates work and introduce you to host, Danusia Malina-Derben. Don't let her laid-back demeanor fool you; she's genuinely a mother to ten! In episode one, we get into the subject of Mollycoddled Ki...2024-03-0943 min
Community PulseMentoring: Leading the Future (Ep 86)Part of the road to being better at Developer Relations is applying what we’ve learned and passing that knowledge on to others. Whether you are a direct mentor or leading a team of folks new to DevRel, it’s important to take stock of what we are doing and how we can best serve the people we know with the knowledge we have.
Checkouts
Tessa Kriesel
DevRel Day in the Life
Minicow Cross Breeds
Rosie Sherry
Community Economies: Reframing Wealth Building
Wesley Faulkner
Why Platformer is leaving Substack
PJ H...2024-02-1641 min
Show Up!S2 E11 Series Finale.docx In this series finale, we reflect on our predictions for the year - we predicted three things would have a huge impact this year. Take a listen to see if we were accurate with our predictions.Here's a taste of just some of the topics we covered:Leadership TrendsStopping ThingsOrganisational BloatLeadership around the worldBurnoutDiversityLabelsStress and the impact this has on leadership behavioursWe express our huge gratitude towards all our guests - Joe O'Mahoney, Ian Hallett, Tony Quinlan, Rosie Sherry and Adam Tobias. They all shared their differing experiences and perspectives and each added...2023-12-2233 min
Show Up!S2 E9: Neurodiversity in the workplace - with Rosie Sherry and Adam TobiasIn this episode of the Show Up! podcast, we discuss the topic of neurodiversity with Adam Tobias and Rosie Sherry.Adam runs Inventum Group, an international talent group that specialises in inclusion advisory work.Rosie is a community builder and founder, running Rosieland, Ministry of Testing, and the Indiependent communities.Rosie & Adam share their own experiences and how they have seen positive changes in society's awareness and acceptance of neurodiversity. We discuss how organisations are adapting to better accommodate neurodiverse individuals and the benefits they are seeing.As leaders it's important...2023-11-281h 05
Strange New WorkThe Most Undervalued Skill of the 21st-Century EconomyWhat's the most undervalued skill of the 21st-century economy? Moderation.I very well might be forgetting something. But with more of our lives and work showing up online every day, the way our feeds, data, and connections are moderated is critical to our daily lives. Moderation can be many things—it's how platforms are designed, how content is incentivized or de-incentivized, and how communication between people is mediated. Some moderation is done structurally, some is done with code, but lots of moderation is done by real people all over the world.In this episode, I ta...2023-10-2635 min
What WorksEP 449: The Most Undervalued Skill of the 21st-Century EconomyThis is the penultimate episode of Strange New Work, a special series from What Works that explores the future of work through the lens of speculative fiction.What's the most undervalued skill of the 21st-century economy? Moderation.I very well might be forgetting something. But with more of our lives and work showing up online every day, the way our feeds, data, and connections are moderated is critical to our daily lives. Moderation can be many things—it's how platforms are designed, how content is incentivized or de-incentivized, and how communication between people is mediated. So...2023-10-2635 min
The Newest Olympian97 | The Last Olympian Ch. 16A w/ Fran McMahonFran from the Best Dam Camp podcast hops into the guest chair to go on a ride, not in a crashing helicopter, but instead, through most of PJO Book 5 Ch. 16! Topics include: gateways, Film Four, the UK Covers, the Nine Dash Line, Buzz Lightyear, Rosie the Riveter, Wonder Woman, collateral drama, Santa Claus Energy, St. Thomas, artistic autistics, horse flicks, main character energy/syndrome, bringing booty back, hated Percy Jackson podcasters, accidental narcissism, Stardew Valley, Pete Wentz, Nico’s top form, The United Nations, Daddy Issues: The Series, Señor Root Beer, and more! TNO IN D...2023-09-251h 22
Novel Ideas Book GroupNovel Ideas to discuss Haven DBC 00693 by Sherry Gomes. 09/15/2023Novel Ideas will be taking the summer off. We hope everyone has a great time whether you’re attending conventions, taking a vacation, or just enjoying a staycation at home.
When we meet in September, we will be discussing the book Haven by Sherry Gomes. DBC 00693. This book is currently not available on Bookshare but is available on Audible with a different narrator for those with Audible accounts. The synopsis from BARD is below.
She would not give up not ever. Holding her head high, she vowed that somehow someday Rosie would be with her ag...2023-09-181h 02
Digital Community LeadersRosie Sherry - Rosieland & Ministry of Testing Founder | Digital Community Leaders PodcastThis is the Digital Community Leaders podcast.
We chat with community managers, champions and founders about their experience leading and supporting digital communities. Asking those big questions to those who have been there and done that.
I’m Pete Heslop, and I lead a team of smart creatives who support community leaders and membership organizations accelerate their growth with technology.
We’ve created the Digital Community Leaders podcast to be a bite-sized look into what it takes to start, grow and scale a digital communities.
Every...2023-05-0438 min
10q Interview with Chris HutchingsJames Hamlin | 10q InterviewIn this episode of 10q Interview I talk to fractional CMO and all round interesting guy, James Hamlin.James blew me away with everything we discussed and I learned a lot about him that I didn't previously know, we covered a wide range of topics, including:family lifeLondonfarming dreamsgrowing foodtechnologyhip hop/rap culturesome very pivotal moments in lifepower of a good peer groupbeing a giverversatilityimpact of remote workingYou're going to like this one, lots of stuff to takeaway and pretty thought provoking too.Go give James a follow (Linkedin), say hi...2023-04-041h 50
The Bootstrapped Founder170: Rosie Sherry — Building Profitable CommunitiesI am talking to Rosie Sherry, proprietor of Rosieland and community empowerment expert. She runs her own communities, monetizing a few of them, and has been managing the IndieHackers community in the past. Rosie is an expert all things community and education. And that's precisely what we'll talk about today.This episode is sponsored by MicroAcquire. Here's the blog post for this episode.You can also watch this episode as a video on YouTube.2022-12-0756 min
10q Interview with Chris HutchingsAnish Hallan - Mental Health & Burnout Expert | 10q InterviewIn this episode of 10q Interview I talk to burnout and mental health expert, the very thought provoking, Anish Hallan.Mental health and burnout are topics that are getting discussed more and more lately and if either topic is on your mind, whether as someone suffering or someone worried about people they know suffering, it is well worth a listen.If you are a leader or a manager, even more so, especially if the stats Anish mentioned are correct.Anish clearly knows what he is talking about and there's a lot of information...2022-11-221h 41
The Recruiting Brainfood PodcastBrainfood Live On Air - Ep176- Sourcing & Recruiting on DiscordSourcing & Recruiting on Discord
Did you know Recruiting Brainfood has a Discord server? I was planning to use it for doing virtual events but never in the end did any virtual events so it basically has sat lying dormant ever since. And yet Discord has rapidly become one of the main places where interest communities come together to connect, share knowledge, meet each other and generally share community. What should we recruiters do about this?
- What is Discord?
- How does it work, technically?
- How is...2022-10-141h 01
Uncommon Conversations: Deep Talks with Community & DevRel Leaders25. Building community flywheels and having conversations B.C. (Before Community), with Community Executive Officer Rosie SherryIn this 25-minute convo, Rosie Sherry, Community Executive Officer and founder of Rosieland, talks about activating community engagement flywheels and having conversations that lead you to the right thing.Community and DevRel leaders perform incredible feats to grow, engage, and support their communities, empower their businesses, and build products and experiences people love. Each day, they bring their companies and communities closer together. These are the stories of their work. The Uncommon community is powered by Common Room, the intelligent community growth platform that enables you to unlock community insights so you can grow happier customers, measure...2022-10-1325 min
10q Interview with Chris HutchingsRosie Sherry | 10q InterviewIn this episode of 10q Interview I talk to Ministry of Testing and Rosie Land founder and all around hugely positive inspiration, Rosie Sherry!Rosie was a mind-blowingly great guest.Unsurprisingly, we talked a lot about her views on community, what they are, what they should be, starting and building them, maintaining a good one and why they're so incredibly important.We did talk about a fair bit of other stuff too, Rosie has quite an incredible life story that you probably had no idea about.She rarely attended senior school whil...2022-10-112h 09
Humans of Business (former Community Life)Community Life #6 with Rosie SherryWelcome to Community Life! Here we talk with the community experts about their lives, and today our guest is Rosie Sherry, a mother of five kids, a big unschooling fan, a Rosie land and village owner, and a Founder of the Ministry of Testing 🤩
From this episode, you'll know:
👉 where is Rosie's love of rainbows from
👉 why Rosie is a reckless mother
👉 how to mentally justify a wooden knife
👉 what makes Rosie's heart melt
👉 why Rosie makes her own rules... and so much more about Rosie's life! 🤩
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Portfolio Career Podcast with David NebinskiHow To Build A Career In The Community Field with Rosie SherryDo you want to have a career centered around relationships and helping people? Perhaps, the community industry is a good fit for you. Since 2007, Rosie Sherry has been working in this field. She is the Founder of Ministry of Testing and notably was the Community Manager at Indie Hackers. Rosie is a prolific tweeter and writer. In 2022, Rosie became a self-employed community builder offering a variety of products and services. In this episode, you will learn about Minimum Viable Communities, how to build a community-led business, and why conversation is at the heart of communities. Excited for you to...2022-06-0937 min
Portfolio Career PodcastHow To Build A Career In The Community Field with Rosie SherryDo you want to have a career centered around relationships and helping people? Perhaps, the community industry is a good fit for you. Since 2007, Rosie Sherry has been working in this field. She is the Founder of Ministry of Testing and notably was the Community Manager at Indie Hackers. Rosie is a prolific tweeter and writer. In 2022, Rosie became a self-employed community builder offering a variety of products and services. In this episode, you will learn about Minimum Viable Communities, how to build a community-led business, and why conversation is at the heart of communities. Excited for you to...2022-06-0937 min
Indie Founder#219 - Interviewing Camille About Bootstrapping Her Own Notion JobCamille is an ambassador of the NoCode tool Notion and has created the Notion French and Portuguese Community.Camille grew up traveling around France and since then that it has been really hard for her to stay in one place or job for a long time. After experimenting with a few different jobs she finally accepted her entrepreneurial calling and decided to start freelancing. Camille eventually found Notion and became obsessed with the tool, spending multiple hours following tutorials and learning it. Eventually, she decided to share that enthusiasm with her French friends and created the Notion...2022-05-1954 min
Indie Founder#211 - Interviewing Rosie Sherry about How to Build a CommunityRosie Sherry is an expert community builder with several years of experience. She bootstrapped Ministry of Testing to 7 figures and also worked on Indie Hackers as a community manager.In this interview, you will understand why Rosie is so attracted to building communities and she will give you great tips on how to start your own community.About RosieTwitterRosieLandAbout Wannabe EntrepreneurJoin our CommunityBuy our Cool MerchBuy me a CoffeeBackground MusicMorning Routine by Ghostrifter Official | https://soundcloud.com/ghostrifter-official...2022-04-211h 18
LifeDoneDifferent.lyRosie Sherry - Reckless MotherHi All - in this episode we talk to Rosie Sherry. Rosie is a self-declared introvert and community builder extraordinaire. She is best known for the Ministry of Testing, Indie Hackers, Rosie.land and RecklessMother.com Rosie builds communities and has done so for more than 15 years. It includes the Sherry community of Rosie, Graham and their 5 kids aged 17 to 3 - none of whom go to school. It’s not that Rosie is looking to rebel. It's just that she seems to be clear about how she wants to spen...2022-04-141h 47
Console DevToolsDev communities, with Rosie Sherry (Orbit) - S02E07In this episode we speak to Rosie Sherry, Community Lead at Orbit, a community management software company. We discuss why community is not marketing, how devrel and community are different, who owns community and what that might mean with web3 & decentralization, and what essential tools you need for managing communities.About Rosie SherryRosie Sherry is Community Lead at Orbit, a community management software company. Prior to Orbit, Rosie founded the world’s largest testing community - Ministry of Testing - and led community at Indie Hackers.Things mentioned:Ministry of TestingDiscordSlacklumaButter.us...2022-02-1728 min
Indie BitesMental health as a founder and the importance of community - Tom Ross, Design CutsIn this episode we’re joined by Tom Ross, who is the founder of Design Cuts, a marketplace and community for creatives which he’s grown to a team of 20 over the past decade. Tom is also a seasoned podcaster, co-hosting The Honest Designer's Show and Biz Buds which have been downloaded millions of times.It's not all been plain sailing for Tom as he ran into severe burnout working 18 hour days, 7 days a week for 18 months, leading to him being hospitalised. In this episode we're going to find out more about Tom's story, some of his succ...2022-02-0815 min
Rerouting: Navigating Parenthood21. Just give up. (feat. Rosie Sherry)Indie hacker and mom of five, Rosie Sherry, tells us all about her family's adventures in unschooling. Hear what inspired their journey and how they manage 5 individual kids without a curriculum.
Follow Rosie Sherry on Twitter, Instagram.
Things Rosie talks about in her unschooling journey.
Self Directed Learning
Peter Gray's work
Unschool.me on Instagram
Hold On To your Kids- the book.
Follow Reroutingpod on instagram & twitter and join our community on reroutingpod.com
Production Credits:
Show edits - Jovan S, Viddhi Nair.
Photography - Adam H...2022-01-201h 01
Women in Tech Podcast, hosted by Espree DevoraErin Staples of Orbit: Women In Tech New YorkDon't miss out on the next #womenintech podcast episode, get notified by signing up here http://womenintechshow.com.Be featured in the Women in Tech Community by creating your profile here http://womenintechvip.com/“Erin Staples of Orbit”#womenintech Show is a WeAreTech.fm production.To support the Women in Tech podcast go to https://www.patreon.com/womenintechTo be featured on the podcast go to http://womenintechshow.com/featureHost, Espree Devorahttps://twitter.com/espreedevorahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/espr...2022-01-1747 min
PodRocket - A web development podcast from LogRocketCommunity is the future with Rosie SherryRosie Sherry, Community Lead at Orbit, is an expert at community building. Rosie joins us to talk about how she created and grew the Ministry of Testing community, the future of communities, and much more.
Links
https://twitter.com/rosiesherry
https://www.ministryoftesting.com
https://orbit.love
https://rosie.land
https://twitter.com/ministryoftest
https://twitter.com/RosielandHQ
https://twitter.com/orbitmodel
https://discord.com/invite/kQpqkNwtbF
Review us
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https://podrocket.logrocket.com/contact-us2022-01-1142 minConsole DevToolsSeason 2 - Devtools interviewsStarting with Cloudflare CTO, John Graham-Cumming on 6 Jan 2022, in season 2 of the Console DevTools Podcast we'll be speaking to 11 interesting people currently working in devtools about a specific technical topic. Upcoming guests:Dev infrastructure, with John Graham-Cumming (Cloudflare)Security, with Thomas Ptacek (Fly.io)Observability, with Charity Majors (Honeycomb)Decentralization, with Brooklyn Zelenka (Fission)Devtools investing, with Ed Sim (Boldstart)Homomorphic Encryption, with Rand Hindi (Zama)Dev communities, with Rosie Sherry (Orbit)Web standards & privacy, with Desigan (Dees) Chinniah (Tor / Ex-Mozilla)Designing dev products, with Ellen Chisa (Boldstart)Terminal tools, with Michelle Lim & Zach Lloyd (Warp)Developer experience...2021-12-0902 min
The Audience ExplorerRob Fitzpatrick: How an entrepreneur’s journey yields compound interestMatthias admires Rob's book "The Mom Test", so he decided to invite Rob to chat about all things customer and audience development.It turned out that Rob has a pretty unique system to develop products. He shares it in such a unique, easily understandable way that Matthias suddenly shouts out "Hey, why didn't I know this before?".Read the full transcript of the episode here.Meet @robfitz on Twitter, and find his websites, Youtube channel, and authors community at- https://robfitz.com/ - https://www.youtube.com/c/robfitzpatrick...2021-11-2653 min
Mailman Podcast3-2-1: Rosie Sherry - Founder of RosielandJoin Rosieland - https://rosie.land/Rosie on Twitter - https://twitter.com/rosiesherry🎁 Start Mailman free trial at mailmanhq.com🐦 Follow us on Twitter – https://twitter.com/Mailman_HQ2021-11-2124 min
Marketing Talks: Companies & CommunitiesHow to monetize and sell to brand communities, featuring community building expert Rosie SherryMost companies form communities with the hope of being able to eventually gain revenue and prove ROI. But it can prove to be challenging to balance authentic engagement with revenue goals. Community building expert Rosie Sherry discusses the best strategy for monetization of brand communities and why community building doesn't always have to live under the umbrella of marketing.2021-11-0128 min
The Growth Leadership Show#15: Rosie Sherry, How To Build A Transformational Community For Your BusinessTopics Discussed:
Kindness is the best community "strategy"
The importance of a crossover between marketing and community
How to transform an audience into a community
Selling community building to executives and investors
How to make your community less "businessy"
Building communities around a unifying purpose
How to integrate events into the community experience
On growing local communities
The similarities between parenting and community building
Rosie’s message for people who want to start a community
Resources:
Indie Hackers
Ministry of Testing
Orbit
Follow:
LinkedIn
Twitter
2021-10-2952 min
Software SocialA Conversation with Rosie SherryFollow Rosie! https://twitter.com/rosiesherryCheck out Rosieland: https://rosie.land/Michele Hansen 0:01 This episode of Software Social is brought to you by Reform.As a business owner, you need forms all the time for lead capture, user feedback, SaaS onboarding, job applications, early access signups, and many other types of forms.Here's how Reform is different:- Your brand shines through, not Reform's- It's accessible out-of-the-box... And there are no silly design gimmicks, like frustrating customers by only showing one question at a...2021-10-2639 min
The Community ExperienceMRR (Monthly Recurring Relationships) with Rosie Sherry#006 MRR, or "monthly recurring revenue" is a common, critical metric that businesses key into. Well, today's guest, Rosie Sherry, says that for community-builders that's better expressed as "monthly recurring relationships." In this episode, she offers an array of sound advice. Here's how she came to specialize in community, her approach to transitioning a community to new leadership, and why you should consider using data to better understand your community. Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/cx006See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.2021-09-2149 min
Lifefulness: Live Life Fully'Can Online Community Replace In-Person Connection?" - Rosie Sherry - #Ep 63Great new podcast today with a legend in the world of online community building, Rosie Sherry. Rosie turned her first community into a $1.5 million business, before being hired by the Indie Hackers site to turbo-charge their growth. Now she's been hired to build community for a software company that builds community building software - a sure sign she's one of the best.Why are we interviewing her? Because community is vital to Lifefulness, and to living life fully, and she's been at the forefront. Rosie is part of the growing number of secret secular vicars, or stealth...2021-09-161h 00
Indie chatsVideo recording: “good enough” vs “perfectionism”We share our recent experiences with video recording, as well as our thoughts on our time spent in education.
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Links:
Reincubate Camo
https://reincubate.com/camo/
Daniel Pink / A Whole New Mind
https://www.danpink.com/books/whole-new-mind/
Rosie Sherry
https://www.danpink.com/books/whole-new-mind/
Indiehackers
https://www.indiehackers.com/
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Jas & Sasa
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Jas: https://twitter.com/jasraj0
Sasa: https://twitter.com/SasaCocic2021-09-1036 min
Minds and MicsReckless Parenting and Authentic Self-Care with Rosie SherryIn this episode of Minds & Mics, I talk with my friend Rosie Sherry about how she made the news for being a "reckless" parent, her distinctive approach to unschooling her kids, authenticity and vulnerability on social media, and what it means to practice self-care as a full-time community builder and mother of five.Show NotesHere are some of the highlights from our conversation:UnschoolingThe struggle to treat each child as they needHow Rosie thinks about self-careDealing with self-care guilt, especially as a momBarriers to women and mom breaking into the world of IndieHackingHow...2021-08-2850 min
My NoCode Story#017: All About Community w/Rosie SherryToday's story is all about community, and my guest on the show is Rosie Sherry. Rosie has been at the forefront of community building for years. Her clear vision for what building a community means, and more importantly what it doesn't mean, is sure to help founders.
We start by talking about the future of community and how enterprises are making a push to build communities around their products and services. Rosie shares her opinions on the intersection of crypto and community, and specifically calls out things not to do when new founders want to build a co...2021-08-0146 min
Talks With SaraNoSocksInterview with Rosie Sherry, Founder RosielandThis week I sat down with Rosie Sherry, a lifelong community builder. Rosie is the co-founder of Ministry of Testing, bootstrapped to 7 figures, former Community Manager of Indie Hackers, Founder of Rosieland, & currently runs community for Orbit and Indie Women. When she's not busy with all things community she's unschooling her 5 kiddos and sharing all her thoughts on how to build amazing communities.Connect with Rosie:Twitter: https://twitter.com/rosiesherryRosieland: https://rosie.landOrbit:https://orbit.love--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/talks-with-saranosocks/message2021-07-231h 03
The Indie Worldwide PodcastRosie Sherry: Q&A on Community BuildingRosie Sherry talks community building at the Community x Audience Indie Worldwide event.
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Drinking with VisionariesRosie Sherry: On Building Community, Growing Ethically, and Unschooling Your Kidsit’s a mindset. a decision. an unshakeable spirit. it’s a rebellion against slimy growth tactics, ineffective education, and the status quo. it’s community. it’s a way of life. it's 100% reason to remember the name.
it's rosie sherry.
listen to this episode to learn more about building community, growing ethically, and unschooling your kids!2021-06-251h 13
Reach Truth PodcastOrbit and Community with Rosie SherryTasshin and Rosie speak about Rosie's history with community building, Rosieland, the Orbit Model and software.
Rosie on Twitter
Rosieland on Twitter
Rosieland
Orbit
Orbit Model
2021-06-221h 03The Audience ExplorerRosie Sherry: Community building – nowadays!Rosie and Matthias had a deep and enjoyable conversation about community building. Rosie reveals her latest thoughts on...- what community building is,- what it really takes to be a good community builder,- and why community building seems to be easy and hard and the same time!Read the transcript here:- https://gettheaudience.com/e17-rosie-sherry-community-building-nowadays/Find Rose on Twitter @rosiesherry and on the web at rosie.landYou can find Orbit at https://www.orbitapp.io/2021-06-1650 min
Community PulseEverything in Moderation (Ep 60)One of the most difficult parts of managing a community is ensuring everyone adheres to a universally acceptable system of behavior. With events, there is generally a Code of Conduct that makes it clear what behaviors are acceptable, what behaviors aren’t, and the consequences of operating outside of the rules. Sometimes it falls on an individual or a team to handle this in the online world. Today, we’ll be talking about moderation with a guest who knows exactly how it works.
Checkouts
Wesley Faulkner
Tire rings
SJ Morris
Pick your battles, take...2021-06-0435 min
Marketing Talks: Companies & CommunitiesMonetizing brand communities with community building featuring Rosie SherryBuilding a community is not only about building it. It is about nurturing it, giving it love, and growing it like a garden. The goal of a valuable community is to thrive - but how do we know it is surrounded by a healthy environment in which it can actually thrive and grow? In this episode of Companies & Communities, Rosie Sherry, a Community Leader at Orbit and owner of Rosieland, discusses her experience with building communities online.Rosie mentions how she doesn't like small talk but prefers valuable one-to-one conversations where people can actually...2021-05-2728 min
This Must Be The PlaceEpisode 13: Rosie Sherry on community as career.Rosie Sherry is the Community Lead at Orbit, a startup which builds software to measure community engagement. She also runs Rosieland, a newsletter and website which covers topics around community management. In this episode we talk about turning community into career, how to scale, and what to do when you realize your heart is no longer in the community you founded. Special Guest: Rosie Sherry.2021-05-261h 00
MicroConf On AirBuilding Communities that Enhance Customer and User Satisfaction with Rosie SherryThere is power in numbers and developing communities around your brand, your product, and your users can be a great strategy to ensure customer and client satisfaction.
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Rosie Sherry has just started a new role with Orbit.love and has been serving as the Community Manager for Indie Hackers before launching her Community Building hub, community and course, Roiseland.
I want to build a community but I feel there are already so many communities existing out there targeting the same audience ... feels saturated - your view ?
What went...2021-04-2826 min
Everything Is MarketingSaraNoSocks — Earning Trust, Streamlining Podcasting, and No-Code EducationOn the show today is Sara, also known as SaraNoSocks. Sara is a creator, designer, and community-builder.I wanted to bring her on because she's actually a very reluctant marketer and I wanted to get the perspective of someone who doesn't really like traditional marketing. Despite that, she's the host of two podcasts, she's created two great no-code products, and is one of Makerpad's Creators in Residence.You'll hear about Sara's own struggles and failures with marketing, how she uses Twitter for social listening and customer development, and why she chooses to be so...2021-03-291h 06Software SocialCustomer Interview Part 1: The InterviewMichele Hansen 0:00 The following message is brought to you by Balsamiq. Balsamiq decided to support the Software Social community by donating their sponsored airtime to some of our listeners.This episode is sponsored by RosieLand. RosieLand is going meta and building a community for community builders through a newsletter community of course and soon to launch podcast. RosieLand brings together community builders for conversations wherever we can have them. And Rosie Sherry would love to chat with anyone who is building a community. Check it out at Rosie.Land. Thank you again to Balsamiq f...2021-03-1625 min
Creator ScienceRosie Sherry – What community building really looks like (beyond the hype)Rosie Sherry is the creator of Rosieland, a community and resource hub for community builders. She previously led community for Indie Hackers, a community of more than 140,000 independent makers.In this episode we talk about Rosie’s history of building community with Ministry of Testing, what she learned through her time at Indie Hackers, the different forms “community” can take, and why trust is at the heart of improving community participation.Transcript and show notes can be found here***RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE→ #58: Courtland Allen***WHEN YOU'RE R...2021-03-1654 min
In Before The Lock🔓 30: A nice, big, warm hug between Marketing and CommunityHow Community and Marketing teams can partner together to attract new prospects, convert them into paying customers, and educate them about new product offerings to drive shared value. Community Industry News: Tesla shutting down their forum in favor of “social hub” CMX Community Apprenticeship Rosie Sherry joins Orbit as their first community hire Amanda Boyle joins Github as Community Strategy Sr. Mgr Paola Johnson promoted to Head of Community & Customer Advocacy at Thoughtspot Kerri Williams joins Workday as Manager, Community Experience Job: Community Engagement Manager at Workday Rachel Makool promoted to Director, Community Experience at GoDaddy Ed Giansante joins...2021-03-161h 24
Creator ScienceBuilding Community and Being Acquired (Indie Hackers)In this bonus episode, I'm talking with Courtland Allen, the founder of Indie Hackers. As I’ve shared a couple times over the last few months, my accelerator and community Unreal Collective was acquired by Smart Passive Income in January of this year.I wrote an article about the acquisition, and it got quite a bit of attention. One of the places it got shared was on Indie Hackers, a massive online community of nearly 30,000 people trying to build profitable side projects.It was originally shared by Rosie Sherry, the then-community manager for Indie Hackers. An...2021-03-1154 minThe Audience ExplorerArvid Kahl: Your audience is already out there!Two Germans having a conversation in English: Enjoy listening to the interview!Read the transcript of the podcast here, and see what was mentioned in the episode: https://gettheaudience.com/e09-arvid-kahl-your-audience-is-already-out-there/Links mentioned in the podcast:The Embedded Entrepreneur (Arvid's new, upcoming book about building an audience-driven business)Rosieland (Rosie Sherry's fantastic newsletter about community building)Indie Hackers (The best community I've ever been part of)How to reach Arvid:Twitter - @arvidkahlWebsite and blog - The Bootstrapped Founder2021-02-1242 min
Heavybit Podcast Network Master FeedDeveloper Love - Ep. #13, Searching for the Spark with Rosie Sherry of Indie HackersIn episode 13 of Developer Love, Patrick speaks with Rosie Sherry of Indie Hackers. They discuss tools for organizing online events, practicing collaboration without ownership, and fostering inclusivity within communities.2021-01-2643 min
Developer LoveEp. #13, Searching for the Spark with Rosie Sherry of Indie HackersIn episode 13 of Developer Love, Patrick speaks with Rosie Sherry of Indie Hackers. They discuss tools for organizing online events, practicing collaboration without ownership, and fostering inclusivity within communities.
The post Ep. #13, Searching for the Spark with Rosie Sherry of Indie Hackers appeared first on Heavybit.2021-01-2643 minDeveloper LoveEp. #13, Searching for the Spark with Rosie Sherry of Indie HackersIn episode 13 of Developer Love, Patrick speaks with Rosie Sherry of Indie Hackers. They discuss tools for organizing online events, practicing collaboration without ownership, and fostering inclusivity within communities.2021-01-2643 min
Creator ScienceMatt Ragland – Becoming a full time YouTube creator after 10 years of side hustlingMatt Ragland is an independent creator. His YouTube channel showcases videos on the Bullet Journal process, productivity, and time management.Previous to going full time as a creator in 2020, Matt worked in customer success as employee #5 at ConvertKit and later as a Director of Customer Success at Podia.In this episode we talk about Matt’s journey starting with blogging in 2010, his time at ConvertKit and Podia, how to construct multiple products at different price points, breaking through on YouTube, and how his curiosity has helped him find a path to going all in as a...2020-12-081h 08
The Indie Worldwide PodcastRosie Sherry, Ministry of Testing - Integrity as a business advantage.Rosie Sherry is the founder of the Ministry of Testing, a community of software testers which holds multiple conferences every year around the world.
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Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/indie-worldwide/message2020-11-021h 16The Recruiting Brainfood PodcastBrainfood Live On Air - Ep83 - Nurturing Online Communities with Rosie Sherry, Vanessa Raath & Allyn BaileyGet the feeling that the idea of the 'talent pipeline' might be over?
It was always a nonsense - that people who move in one direction through an interaction with an employer, and only end up with one outcome - offer of a job or not.
We know that the the relationship between potential employee and future employer is much more complex, multi-faceted. at multi-speeds. More recruiters will be speaking to candidates years before they become employees, relationships built over time and many iterations.
The question for modern TA departments is: how best to...2020-10-301h 17
Growth Marketing TodayHow Indie Hacker's Thrive and Grow With Rosie Sherry (GMT113)Get the free growth cheat sheets with all actionable notes, takeaways, and tips from the latest episode in a one-page PDF at https://growthtoday.fm/113
Building a community around a brand can become a competitive advantage. We’ve seen brands like Hubspot, GrowthHackers.com, and Clickfunnels do just that. In this episode, Rosie Sherry, Community Manager at Indie Hackers, shares how to build a vibrant online community.
In episode 113, you’ll learn:
Common mistakes to avoid when building an online community
How to organize events and create content that engages the community
Her principles around building a vibrant community
Sponsor For...2020-10-2248 minIndie BitesWhat it takes to build a community - Rosie Sherry, Indie HackersRosie Sherry is a community builder, indie hacker and founder. She currently runs the Indie Hackers community and also a weekly newsletter where she talks about building communities. Previously, Rosie founded Ministry of Testing.In this episode we talked about:Rosie's background as an indie hackerGoing full time on Ministry of Testing, growing that into a £1m+ businessWhat it's like running the Indie Hackers communityWhat makes a good Indie Hackers postHow to make the most out of the platformWhy Rosie started Rosieland, her paid newsletterWhat goes into building a communityHow we can be a more inclusive c...2020-10-1515 min
Create CommunityCan You Have Community Without Trust? A Conversation With Rosie SherryRosie Sherry founded the Ministry of Testing, which is the largest community of software testing professionals. She grew this community from casual meetups to 9 yearly conferences earning $1.5 million in annual revenue.
Eventually, Rosie outgrew this community and handed over the day-to-day operations to her team. Today, Rosie is the Community Manager of Indie Hackers, a community that helps entrepreneurs become profitable while remaining independent.
Rosie and Marsha chat about the challenges and opportunities of growing her communities, when it’s time to move on and how to do it smoothly, and building vs buying community to...2020-09-2935 minIndie BitesWhat's important for indie hackers in 2020 - Courtland Allen, Indie HackersCourtland Allen founded Indie Hackers in 2016, grew the business $8k MRR with sponsors, and then sold to Stripe 9 months later. An inspirational story that doesn't end there. Courtland has now been working from within Stripe for the past 4 years, where he continues to build on the platform and produce the excellent Indie Hackers podcast. He's a fountain of knowledge and I think you'll love this episode.What we covered in this episode:On Indie Hackers:Why did Courtland start IH?What is an 'indie hacker'?What are the pros and cons of building within...2020-09-2115 minIndie Bites$3k MRR with 600 paying members writing about mindful productivity - Anne-Laure Le Cunff, Ness LabsAnne-Laure Le Cunff is the founder of Ness Labs, a learning platform dedicated to mindful productivity while also studying neuroscience part-time at King's College with her masters. Previously Anne-Laure worked at Google leaving that job in 2017. As part of Ness Labs, she creates some truly exceptional content that I've had shared with me time and time again, which is evidenced by her 19,000 strong email lists for her newsletter, Maker Mind.Here's what we covered in this episode:On Ness LabsTell me a little about your back story and why you started Ness Labs...2020-09-1815 min
Creator ScienceNatalie Franke – Starting a photography business, competition, entrepreneurial loneliness, and the role of communityNatalie Franke is the Head of Community at HoneyBook and co-founder of the Rising Tide. Since the Rising Tide and HoneyBook joined forces in 2015, the community that Natalie built has grown to more than 75K small business owners who meet monthly around the world. In this episode we talk about the unexpected start to Natalie’s photography business, the loneliness creative entrepreneurs feel, the complicated reality of competition, and why community is such an important part of our lives.Transcript and show notes can be found here***RECOMMENDED NEXT EPISODE→ #48: Rosie Sher...2020-07-0753 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman: How Do I LookRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman: How Do I Look by Heather Dean2020-03-2500 min
Software Engineering UnlockedStarting a profitable business in six weeks with Courtland AllenSubscribe on iTunes, Spotify, Google, Deezer, or via RSS. Links:Courtland on TwitterIndiehackersIndie Hackers PodcastRosie SherryShow notes:In the beginning, I talk with Courtland about his journey to create the indie hacker community. I actually thought he created it right after graduating from college. But that's far from what happened. For many years, Courtland started all kinds of businesses with varying degrees of success. In 2016 he then quit his day job and had a runway of one year for building a profitable business (giving the cost of living in San F...2020-02-1848 min
egghead.io developer chatsReal Community Can't Be Faked With Rosie SherryRosie Sherry is both an unschooling parent and the founder of the Ministry Of Testing. There's a disproportionate number of bootstrappers who homeschool their kids, and maybe it's for the same reason why they built something themself instead of fitting into the mold, they think they can do it better. Ministry of Testing is a company Rosie founded, officially as an online community in 2007, but then formally as a business in 2011. It's a community of software testers who geek out on testing, host conferences, have online talks, host trainings, and participate in an online community....2020-02-0733 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on How to Successfully Date for MarriageRosie Einhorn and Sherry Zimmerman get into the basics on effecting and intelligent dating for the long-term.2019-10-3000 min
Smash NotesDoes remote work make you happy? Jason Calacanis, Entrepreneurship, apprenticeships, and social norms. - Smash Notes Podcast August 23 2019Thank you for listening to SmashNotes.com - You are awesome!
In this warm summer edition:
The lost art of apprenticeships, and how and why Dan Mall is growing a new breed of designers by teaching them to do everything.
Remote Work Report from Hiten Shah, and advice on how to make your own company more productive.
Jason Calacanis on how to prepare your kids for life from the young age, and how the Elon Musk school is doing it.
Rosie Sherry, the maker behind the Ministry of Testing, and what she did...2019-08-2416 min
Founder Chats with beepurpleInterview with Rosie Sherry of Ministry of Testing | Founder Chats with beepurpleRosie Sherry of Brighton-based Ministry of Testing is the guest in episode four, explaining how she built a software testing community that has become a £1m revenue business in a little over ten years. Rosie’s success has been achieved while juggling, with her partner, the responsibilities of home-schooling her children. beepurple is the University of Brighton's entrepreneurship support service.2019-07-2344 min
At Home in JerusalemWho's in Charge Here? with Rosie Einhorn & Sherry ZimmermanRosie Einhorn and Sherry Zimmerman on what goes through the minds of singles who feel pressured by forceful people.2019-07-1711 min
At Home in JerusalemWho's in Charge Here? with Rosie Einhorn & Sherry ZimmermanRosie Einhorn and Sherry Zimmerman on what goes through the minds of singles who feel pressured by forceful people.2019-07-1700 min
Indie Hackers#097 – Paying It Forward with Kindness to Build a $1.2MM Community with Rosie Sherry of Ministry of TestingDespite being an introvert, Rosie Sherry (@rosiesherry) knew that she needed to build a community that software testers deserve: the Ministry of Testing. In this episode, we discuss how Rosie created a community so tight-knit that people have its logo tattoo'd on their bodies, how she grew it to $1.2M in revenue without relying on ads, and how she did it all while raising and homeschooling 5 kids.Transcript, speaker information, and more: https://www.indiehackers.com/podcast/097-rosie-sherry-of-ministry-of-testing2019-06-141h 06
IT Career EnergizerLearn to Build a Strong Network and Help Others to Grow your Reputation as an IT Professional with Rosie SherryGUEST BIO: My guest on today’s show has spent most of her career in the software testing world, which led to her founding the Software Testing Club. This evolved to become the Ministry of Testing which is a community of software testers that want to change, share and improve their craft. She says that she is a big believer in doing things ethically and that she’s fascinated by the world of community, marketing, tech, and software testing. EPISODE DESCRIPTION: Phil’s guest on today’s IT Career Energizer podcast is Rosie...2019-05-2920 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on Dating with PurposeRosie Einhorn and Sherry Zimmerman on getting to know your date, and when it’s time to get personal.2019-05-0109 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on Dating with PurposeRosie Einhorn and Sherry Zimmerman on getting to know your date, and when it’s time to get personal.2019-05-0100 min
Parents Who Think#21: BEAT - Rosie SherryVive la révolution! Influential woman in tech, Rosie Sherry, is the Founder of Ministry of Testing - an ever-growing global software testing community. Rosie is the perfect person to discuss going against the grain, to BEAT the system - both at work and home. Despite being at the helm of her hugely successful growing business, six years ago Rosie followed her heart and decided to home educate her children. During this episode we discuss how online communities can grow into thriving businesses and how it’s ok to go against the ‘system’, in fact she highly recomme...2019-03-2049 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on Newlywed FightsDoes having your first fight mean your marriage is over? Rosie Einhorn and Sherry Zimmerman share their expert advice on getting through that first hurdle.2019-01-0900 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on Newlywed FightsDoes having your first fight mean your marriage is over? Rosie Einhorn and Sherry Zimmerman share their expert advice on getting through that first hurdle.2019-01-0909 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on the Secret Ingredient for MarriageHere comes the secret ingredient to a successful marriage with special guests Rosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman.2018-10-0400 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on the Secret Ingredient for MarriageHere comes the secret ingredient to a successful marriage with special guests Rosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman.2018-10-0409 min
She Owns SuccessSOS058: From Software Tester To Building A Global Community with Rosie Sherry of Ministry of TestingRosie Sherry is a woman on a mission to raise the profile and awareness of the testing profession. After noticing a lack of resources for testers in the marketplace, founder, Rosie Sherry started a software testing club which has since evolved from an online forum to a global testing community. In this episode Rosie discusses the challenges of turning a successful online community into a profitable business, balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship and the reality of what it takes to start a business and build a business you truly love. 2018-10-0152 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on Pre-Wedding JittersWhat do you do if you, or someone you love, gets cold feet before the wedding day? Today Rosie Einhorn and Sherry Zimmerman are weighing in on this subject.2018-05-2310 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on Pre-Wedding JittersWhat do you do if you, or someone you love, gets cold feet before the wedding day? Today Rosie Einhorn and Sherry Zimmerman are weighing in on this subject.2018-05-2300 min
The Productize Podcast[59] Software Testing as a Service... And a Community w/ Rosie SherryToday I'm talking to Rosie Sherry. She runs Ministry of Testing, a thriving community for software testers. Software testers are people who test software application and websites. They test the user experience and check that all features are working properly and that there aren't any foreseeing risks or vulnerabilities. Testing is an extremely important piece of the puzzle when you build a product. Rosie has built up this membership community with free and private areas, courses, and organizes a lot of conferences. We talk about what is testing, what's involved, and how she's been able to build a thriving...2018-05-0948 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on Getting Along with Your In-LawsRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman, Aish.com's dating advice columnists and co-founders of Sasson V'Simcha (www.jewishdatingandmarriage.com, share their wisdom when it comes to having a relationship with your in-laws.2018-01-1108 min
At Home in JerusalemRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman on Getting Along with Your In-LawsRosie Einhorn & Sherry Zimmerman, Aish.com's dating advice columnists and co-founders of Sasson V'Simcha (www.jewishdatingandmarriage.com, share their wisdom when it comes to having a relationship with your in-laws.2018-01-1100 min
Screen TestingEp 14: Yes ManThis week, we "embrace the possible" as we chat to Leigh Rathbone about Yes Man, a Jim Carrey romantic comedy which tells the somewhat-real-life story of Carl Allen, an unconfident recluse who is encouraged to say "yes" to more things in his life. We talk to Leigh about how Yes Man inspired him to do the same with his testing career, and the opportunities that opened up for him when he did this. There are discussions about work-life balance, the responsibility of employers to help with maintaining balance, and when it might be appropriate to say "no".2017-09-1500 min
Ryan and RosieTom & Rosie weekly podcast, Feb 24th - 28th#stopdropandseal, Christo - MKR on hold, Tom's Skate Gang "Way Cool", Hot Hunt - we found James Sherry from Amazing, The Ode to Steven Sealburg2014-02-2815 min