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It Just Makes SenseChit Chat 168 From Speeding Tickets to BlueJays and LOTS OF SPOILER ALERTSEver wondered how a speeding ticket could turn into a heartwarming encounter? Join us for this episode packed with surprising moments and delightful discoveries. When Samantha gets pulled over, an unexpectedly kind police officer turns what could have been a stressful situation into a memorable story.The conversation takes us on a journey from Buffalo to Toronto, where clean streets and efficient public transit steal the show.
2025-09-0534 min
It Just Makes SenseChit Chat 161 Office Antics and AI Adventures: A Recipe for LaughterFrom spaghetti disasters to missing cups, this episode takes you on a rollercoaster ride through the everyday chaos of office life while diving into thought-provoking discussions about AI in education. Join Samantha and Jeff as they navigate workplace dynamics with humor and heart.The conversation weaves through various adventures, from golf club mishaps to Fourth of July celebrations, beach escapades, and competitive wing sauce contests. Listeners will enjoy tales of pool-side surprises, local food discoveries, and the delicate balance between work and play.
2025-07-0935 min
It Just Makes SenseChit Chat 99 The Surprise Party for the 35th Birthday of Cameron J SmithSamantha threw a wonderful surprise party for Cameron with a Survivor theme. She talks of the trials and tribulations of trying to hide it from the love of her life. Jeff's new boo met a couple friends and his sister! He checked out the movie Golda and ate at the Unbridled Cafe, in Amherst. Sam tried Zoe for the first time and claims to not remember Jeff ever talking about it. THE LIES.
2023-08-3036 min
It Just Makes SenseEpisode 149 The Murder of David KerrIn 1991, in Chugiak, Alaska David Kerr opens a package sent to his son George Kerr. What happened next was wild. There was a bomb in the package. David was killed instantly, and his wife Shelly Kerr suffered injuries from over 2000 projectiles. BUT why was it sent to George? Well, the year before three young men George and his two friends from the small Alaska community, became wrapped up in the tragic shooting of teenager Jeffrey Cain. They were shooting heavy duty guns and Cain was in the wrong place at the wrong time. George decided it was his duty to tell...
2023-07-2132 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 131 The Murder of Amanda HilliousEpisode 131 is about the death of Amanda Hillious. She was the mother of 4 kids and lived with her husband and father-in-law in Kalispell, Montaa. One day during the Christmas season Amanda fell down the stairs! Or Did she? Her injuries would suggest she may have been pushed. It was pretty suspicious because Amanda had a rocky bordering on abusive relationship with her husband Brad and father-in-law Scott. Throughout the trial several bombshells drop. A suicide? An Affair! Tune and tell us? Did she fall or was she pushed!Also Happy Birthday Mama Siefert!
2023-03-0332 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 69 The Whale, I Wanna Dance With Somebody and Bea Arthur TatsThis week the chit chatters talk about the JEFF'S NEW TATTOO and it's HUGE. He's super excited about it, because Bea Arthur has never looked better. His artist Sam Colangelo at the Crucible Collective really knocked it out of the park! He had a birthday bash for his pops and went and saw I Wanna Dance with Somebody with Taaliba! Sam saw the whale! She had the Smith family Christmas and got a fabulous gift from her sister-in-Law.A 1,000 Boys KissesUnmask AliceQuit Like a Woman
2023-01-1135 minIt Just Makes SenseEpsiode 118 The State of Alabama vs Brittany SmithEpisode 118 is about the State of Alabama vs Brittany Smith. This documentary is about Brittany Smith's case using the stand your ground law. Brittany claimed she needed to use the stand your ground law to kill a man who was assaulted and raped her and attempted the strangulation of her brother. There are some discrepancies in her story that may have led to some complications in her case. Will she be the first woman to successfully use this defense? Was her assailant's death justified? You be the judge!
2022-12-0233 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 112 The Evidence Indeed and without a doubtEpisode 112 is about the Netflix series The Evidence: Indeed and without a doubt! This episode investigates the 1990 abduction and murder of Courtney Smith. Levon Brooks was convicted of the crime based on bite mark analysis. Meanwhile another 3-year-old girl Christine Jackson, goes missing in a nearby town and is found dead with similar bite marks. Another man Kenndey Brewer was convicted on the same bite mark analysis by the same expert. WHAT? HOW CAN THAT BE! Tune in to find out.
2022-10-1439 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisoode 111 The Murder of Misti MayoEpisode 111 is about the murder of Misti Mayo. Misti Mayo and Christine Smith were two Texas teenage girls that became the best of friends. They supported each through miscarriages, births and being kicked out of the family home. Christine even helped raise Misti’s baby boy Dante! One night after a party at the girls' apartment a group of boys including Misti’s baby daddy robbed a tired store. The Police get called to Misti’s apartment and she has to turn them in. Christine and her burglar friends were none too happy with this development and the friendship takes a terr...
2022-10-0728 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 53 Mormons, and High Blood PressureOn this week's chit chat Jeff's is accosted by 2 young hot Mormon missionaries as he arrived to record the pod. The hotties in black and white got a little more than they bargained for, stopping Jeffrey. Sam watched a league of their own, and the do revenge. Jeff is doing the reading this week, wholly enthralled in The Missing American. Sam finally reads a book that Jeff read A school for good mothers by Jessamine Chan.Do RevengeThe Missing American - Kwei Quarty
2022-09-2130 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat Lauren Smith Fields, LA, Donuts, Dicks and Drinks,This week's chit chat Sam and Jeff discuss the death of Lauren Smith Fields. They recap their trip to LA they survived! The theme of their trip was Donuts, Dicks and Drinks. They completed the Vanderpump trifecta, saw a drag show, a musical, and watched football. They wrap it up with what they watched during their covid quarantine.I am Jonas - NetflixThe Betty White Tribute Show - NBCOzark Season 4 - NetflixKarate Kid 1,2,3Single Drunk Female - HuluHappy Birthday Marie!
2022-02-0239 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 18: Physicals, Christmas Gifts and Crazy, Single, Gay and Over 30This week's Chit Chat Episode 18, Sam and Jeff chat about some recent medical experiences. Then they move on to this week's segment of Crazy, Single, Gay and Over 30! We meet Catfish Hunter, The Stalker, Ginger and a story from some summertime fun. They chat about their Christmas, the wonderful gifts they got and wrap it up with what they're reading and watching.See Ya Next year!The KingsmanGeek Love - Katherine DunnEmily in Paris - Season 2Harsh Reality the Story of Miriam Rivera
2021-12-3035 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 71 Charles Manson Part DeuxEpisode 71 is up for your Christmas Listening Pleasure wrap those gifts, sip that egg nog while Sam completes the dastardly tale of the Manson Family. Tex and Leslie at the direction of Charlie kill Rosemary and Lina La Bianca and the ensuing trials are absolute crazy town. Merry Christmas Ya'll!
2021-12-2431 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 17 Holiday Plans and Jeff's Dating again?... Weird.This week's Chit Chat Sam and Jeff discuss holiday plans. Then the big NEWS! Jeff's dating again. Well kind of. He's chatting with some boys and discusses with Sam strategies about the approach. They wrap it up with what they've been watching and eating. Merry Christmas Ya'll!Nightmare AlleyThe Righteous Gem Stones - HBO MAXSinatra's - 945 Kenmore Ave
2021-12-2226 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 70: Charles Manson Part One!Episode 70 is out, and we take a deep dive into Sam's fav psychopath Charles Manson. We start with a long look into his criminal background from birth to a Prostitute Mother, to each one of his stops along the criminal pathway to cult leader. Manson was convicted of theft, rape, assault, and promoting prostitution. He was in many, many facilities and lived a rough life. This is part 1 of 2 there's just too much juice about Charlie and the family to keep it to one episode.
2021-12-1749 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 16: Jen Shah, Jussie Smollett, Josh Duggar, The Crumbleys and Sex and the CityOn this week's Chit Chat we have true crime updates galore Jen Shah's Case, The Jussie Smollett verdict, some local wny crime, the Duggars, and James and Jennifer Crumbley. What we're watching and how we're really slacking on the reading!La BreJust Like That - The Sex and the City rebootUnforgivable
2021-12-1535 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 69: The Case against Real Housewive of Salt Lake City Jen Shah!Episode 69 is about Jen Shah of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. This chick is involved in some shady business. Or is she? Jen Shah is allegedly the master mind of a telemarketing social media scam that bilked millions out of well intentioned business people.
2021-12-0950 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 15: Maggie's Baby! Ghislaine's on trial and John Goodman's Skinny now!This week's Chit Chat we welcome a Baby to the It Just Makes Sense Family! Congrats Maggie (our first guest co host) and her husband Brett! Jeff's recaps the bills game, then Sam provides some updates on Ghislaine Maxwell and John Goodman's weight loss. Some movie and tv reviews, what we're reading and what we're eating.Hot Zone Ebolla, AnthraxHutchs -1375 Delaware Ave, Buffalo, NY 14209Single All The WayKing Richard
2021-12-0931 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 68: The Murder of Raymel McCasterEpisode 68 is about the murder of Raymel McCaster. One fatefull evening two residents of Mechanicsburg, Illinois thought they saw a dead hog on the side of the road. But was it?! No! It was headless, armless and legless corspe. But who was it? Where did it come from?
2021-12-0334 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 14: Lady Gaga's acting again, Disneyworld and a Thanksgiving Meltdown!On this weeks chit chat Sam's back and she's feeling attacked, triggered, and insulted! They gab about her trip, a new book review and Jeff's thanksgiving melt down. Jeff saw House of Gucci and did some black Friday and Cyber Monday shopping.Dare me by Megan AbbottHouse of GucciTik Tik Boom
2021-12-0127 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 67: The murder of Bill NelsonEpisode 67 is out it’s a Thanksgiving tale of terror. Omaima Nelson shows up covered in blood at her ex boyfriend’s house asking for help. She said her husband was an abusive rapist that she had to kill to survive. BUT what really HAPPENED!
2021-11-2642 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 13 While Sam's away Jeff and the kids will play!On Chit Chat this week Sam is on vacation so Jeff chats it up with some of his lovely lady friends Tiffany and Connie. They reminisce about falling in love with Jeff, the trio touch on some true crime current events and Connie spills the tea about a trip with Sam. The Rose bar & Grille – 199 Scott St, Buffalo NY 14204 And the Band Played On Breaking News in Yuba County You Insecure Dope Sick
2021-11-2645 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 66: The Murder of Maurizio GucciThis weeks case is the Murder of Maurizio Gucci. The case of Patrizia Regiani. A twisted tale of murder for hire and extortion! Did she have him killed or was it her bestie Pina Auriemma? All we know for certain is that she's a fabulous fabulous woman.
2021-11-1937 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 12: A Drag Queen Christmas, Running into Exes and Cleveland Rocks!On this week's Chit Chat, Sam and Jeff chat about a Drag Queen Christmas, running into exes, bar hopping on Allen, Sam's trip to Cleveland for a wedding, What we're reading and as ALWAYS what we're eating. Andddd the kids are off to LA for Jeff's birthday! Who's ready for some west coast sun?!Tacos Community and BeerRoaming Bison TavernLast night at the telegraph club - Malinda Lo
2021-11-1727 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat Episode 11On this week's Chit Chat, Sam and Jeff chat about some true crime news about Cleo Smith, Astroworld and The Walker County Jane Doe. Then we talk what we're reading, eating and watching.WentworthThe Eyes of Tammy FayeNecessary Lies - Diane Chamberlain
2021-11-1123 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 65: Heather MackEpisode 65 is out and we talk about the case of Heather Mack! Matricide, Money, Murder, Sex, Deportation. This case has it all and contrary to what Samantha professes in the podcast, Jeff was not that far off in chit chat. He just left out some details.
2021-11-1127 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 64: Austin HarouffThis week's episode is about Austin Harouff. A 19 year old frat boy who chewed the flesh off of his neighbor's face. Why did he do it? Was it drugs? Was it booze? Did he have a phsychotic break? Tune in and Let us know!
2021-11-0528 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat Episode 10: Alex Mack, Mariah Carey, Winter House and Punching Flight AttendantsOn this week's Chit Chat Epsiode 10 Sam and Jeff are a bit off the rails. The format flies out the window, we recap halloween, Christmas favs, what we're watching and a PSA about hitting flight attendants. JUST CUT IT OUT ALREADY!Winter HouseLast Night in Soho
2021-11-0528 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 63: Ronald O'Brien AKA The Candy ManThis episode is about Ronnie O'Brien or the candy man. Halloween hasn't been the same since murderous deeds. He's the reason we have all the ridiculous memes about drugs in our candy. I don't know about you guys but we aren't sharing our edibles! Happy Halloween friends!
2021-10-2931 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat Episode 9: The triumphant return of Jeff!Guess who's back? BACK AGAIN! Jeffrey's back, tell a friend! On Chit Chat this week Jeff regals us with fond memories of his trip to Jamaica. We give some true crime updates spoiler alert Brian Laundrie has been found dead and one of John Wayne Gacey's victim's were identified. As always they chat about what they're reading and eating.Children of Blood and Bone Tony AdayemiThe Oysterville Sewing Circle - Susan WiggsThe Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia - TubiDope Sick - HuluThe Grand Palladium Lady Hamilton - Mon...
2021-10-2832 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 62: The Disappearance of Cindy SongThe week Sam and Jeff talk about the disappearance of Cindy Song. She went out for a night of partying on Halloween and never came home. Was she kidnapped? Did she decide to just run away or did she meet a more nefarious end?
2021-10-2226 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 8: Ghost Stores, MTV MADE and the Pick Up ArtistFor this weeks chitchat, we brought in a guest host PHIL PENEPENT! From growing up in a funeral home, to filming with MTV for MADE, to studying abroad in Italy during the Amanda Knox trial-- Phil SPILLS IT ALL. The laughs are flying and the tea is HOT in this weeks CHIT CHAT!
2021-10-2135 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 61: The ChippendalesThis week Sam and Jeff talk about the murder for hire plot and all the drama surrounding the creation of the Chippendales. This story has half naked men, celebrities and multiple murders. Tune in, it's a wild ride!
2021-10-1531 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat Episode 7: Dave Chappelle, The Jersey Shore and Travel MemoriesThis week Sam and Jeff chit chat about the Dave Chappelle controversy, their shared travel memories, and what they're reading watching, and listening to. SAM went to the JERSEY SHORE HOUSE!Sopranos Movie - 2/10The Candy Man - 7/10The Wife Stalker - Liv Constantine - 10/10They Never Learn - Layne Fargo - 8/10Jenny Pox - JL Bryan - Halloween Pick!Reba - Revived, Remixed and Revisited
2021-10-1332 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 60: Jonestown CultThis week Sam and Jeff talk about the Jonestown Cult. It's the largest loss of civilian life outside of a terrorist attack in US History. Jim Jones started as an advocate for racial integration in late 1960's and 70's and wood his followers with a dream of a racial utopia.Would you have drank the kool aid?
2021-10-0839 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat Episode 6: Heartbreak, Jennifer Garner, Stealing from FacebookThis week Sam and Jeff talk about swindling facebook, a Jesus Weight Loss Cult, accidental text messages and breakups.As always they wrap it up with what they're eating and reading. Enjoy!The Way Down on HBO MAXDear Evan Hansons in theaters nowPoor Unfortunate Soul: A tale of the Sea Witch - Serena Valentino
2021-10-0640 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 59: The Murder of Jake Clyde MerendinoOn this week’s episode Sam and Jeff chat about the murder of Jake Clyde Merendino. In 2012 Jake Merendino met male escort David Mezza and quickly fell in love. The two of them had a relationship of almost two years. One problem David was engaged to his pregnant fiancée Taylor. David and Taylor hatched a plan to get David’s money and MURDER him.
2021-10-0121 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 5: Chit Chat Brittany, Gabby, John Hinckley and Honey Boo BooOn this week’s Chit Chat Sam and Jeff chat about Brittany Spears AGAIN, Gabby Petito, John Hinckley, Honey Boo Boo and Laura Prepon. They chat about their Thai food dinner from Roma Thai in Amherst, NY and what they’re reading. A little bit of love advice and wrap it up with Sam's beautiful botox updates.Food Roma Thai and Burmese Cuisine Books Hiding My Privates – Lady Chablis, Theodore Bouloukos They Both Die at the End - Adam Silvera
2021-09-3030 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 58: Gabby PetitoWe finally can say RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES!! ... err Tik Tok in this case. This week we .cover the insane and unraveling story of Gaby Petito. We try to piece together the clues from Tik Tok and some ALLEGED allegations to figure out what exactly is happening in this case and our thoughts on how Brian Laundrie is an absolute monster.
2021-09-2429 minIt Just Makes SenseChit Chat 4: Disordered Eating. The Emmys and Swollen BallsThis week we tackle some wild topics. Find out what type of friend you are from beers and puppies, hear Sam BERATE Jeff over how much TV he watches and end the show with some book and tv recs!
2021-09-2329 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 57: The murder of Kitty GenoveseThe murder of Kitty Genovese was known around the world as a brutal attack that was heard by 37 other witnesses and no one stepped in. According to the New York Times. Years later we'll find out the exact story -- was it really 37? And we'll explore the reign of terror that the murder- Winston Moseley had on the City of Buffalo during his brief escape from Attica prison.
2021-09-1728 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 3: Chit Chat Bible Camp, Rebel Ride and Sweet WhiskOn this weeks Chit Chat Sam and Jeff dive into the cult that Sam joined in High School under the guise of "bible camp" . Jeff discusses his disdain for hard spin classes, his review of white lotus and we end the chat with what we're reading and watching!
2021-09-1722 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 56: The trial of Michelle CarterThis week Sam and Jeff get a little help from a friend. Longtime listener and true crime junkie Abby in Kenmore!They take on the case of Michelle Carter. Accused of contributing to the suicide of her then boyfriend Conrad Roy via text message.Did she manipulate him into killing himself or was she a mentally ill, lovestruck and misunderstood teen. You be the judge! Does it make sense?
2021-09-1038 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 2: Chit Chat Amanda Bynes, Pooka Shells & College AdviceOn this week's chit chat Sam and Jeff are joined by Abby in Kenmore!They tackle the lesser known conservatorhsip of Amanda Bynes, advice for their younger selves and the abortion law in Texas.They wrap it up with a little what are you eating and what are you reading.
2021-09-0930 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 55: Dr. Anthony PignataroThis week we bring you ANOTHER Buffalo case! LETS GO BUFFALO ! This one is one for the books. Dr. Anthony Pignataro wanted nothing more in life but to follow in his fathers footsteps and become an esteemed surgeon. Esteemed did he become? Or was he more well known for the murderous money saving tactics he engaged in during his cosmetic surgeries? Or was he more well known for his world famous snap on toupee patent that spread world wide? Or was he more well known for plotting to kill his wife?LISTEN IN AND FIND O...
2021-09-0325 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 1: Chit Chat! Elizabeth Holmes, Cookie and C*ckWelcome to our very own spin off....This is it just makes sense Chit Chat! In the inaugural episode of chit chat, Sam and Jeff give an update on the Elizabeth Holmes trial, a riveting discussion on grindr's effects on men, book and tv chatter and some local WNY eats.Cookies!Bigger and Better Bakery - www.biggerandbetterbakery.comSam's Book Reviews:The Dilemma - BA ParisOne True Loves - Taylor Jenkins Reid
2021-09-0132 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 54: Ed GeinThis week we're taking a listeners suggestion! We're covering the story of Ed Gein. If you are a horror film buff, than you have to know the murderer who was the inspiration between such cinematic masterpieces of Psycho, Silences of the Lambs and Texas Chain Saw Massacre. Ed's inappropriate infatuation with his mother led to the murder and grave robbing of multiple woman to begin to piece together a human suit to resemble his own mother that he could wear around town .Listen in as Jeff debates whether or not a nipple belt would be a...
2021-08-2728 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 53: Audrie and DaisyWelcome to season two of It Just Makes Sense! We're starting this season with an... augh. Trigger warning for those listening: Sexual Assault, Rape, Violence against a minor. And honestly just gut wrenching misogyny. This week we're discussing the documentary Audrey and Daisy. It covers the sexual assault and aftermath of two young teenage girls and how the towns, friends and the law turned against them.Collectively sigh and vomit with us and as always -- TEACH OUR YOUTH TO DO BETTER.
2021-08-2037 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 52: The murder of Jon Benet RamseyWe did it ya'll!! We made it to one year! Thank you so much to everyone who has been listening and supporting us this entire time. For our one year anniversary, we cover one of the biggest true crime cases --THE MURDER OF JON BENET RAMSEY. We deep dive into the lives of the Ramsey's and discuss who could have committed this heinous crime. Was it Patsy Ramsy the former beauty queen? Could it have been Burke Ramsey --the 9 year old brother? Or was it an intruder to the home ...WAS IT SANTA CLAUSE?Listen in...
2021-08-1352 minIt Just Makes SenseThe Trial of Amanda KnoxIt was the murder that rocked every college student in 2007. A young American girl is studying abroad in Italy to come home to find her roommate murdered. And then is convicted of the crime. Could you imagine spending four years in Italian Jail, hated by the a foreign country and presumed guilty?What happened to Meredith Kercher and how did FOXY KNOXY get convicted? What was the evidence or NON evidence to overturn the case? LISTEN IN AND FIND OUT AT SAM AND JEFF TAKE ON...THE TRIAL OF AMANDA KNOX.
2021-08-0641 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 50: FoxcatcherRuptured testicles, machine guns and the KKK oh my!This week Sam and Jeff tackle the case of Foxcatcher, the Olympic training facility own by eccentric billionaire John DuPont for wrestlers. John DuPont sadly murders Dave Schultz in what some think was a cocaine induced rage.The hosts wrap up the show reminiscing about a few Olympic memories and some of their favorite Olympians worldwide.
2021-07-3028 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 49: Did we really go to the moon?!On Episode 49 of It Just Makes Sense, Sam needed a little break from all the death, doom and gloom so she tackled a conspiracy theory. The moon landing!There are several theories and clues that lead some folks to believe we never actually made it there.Sam and Jeff wrap up this week's pod with a little would you rather and both of them decide they are off to a minimum security prison for a little summer camp!
2021-07-2329 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 48: Lorena and John BobbitThis week's episode covers the case that swept the nation in the early 90's. The Bobbits. Lorena and John Bobbit lived a seemingly wonderful life but behind closed doors she was being abused.One night after another night of rape and violence, Lorena decided to slice her husband's penis off.This case covers, spousal rape, and domestic violence. Listener discretion advised.
2021-07-1641 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 47: He didn't start the fire or did he? The death of Lorie Lee LanceIn 1992 the home of Claude Garrett and Lorie Lee Lance started to burn in their sleep. Claude ran out of the house no problem. However, Lorie got stuck in a spare room and died of smoke inhalation.Did he lock her in there and set the home ablaze with kerosene? Did she get turned around, become disoriented and get stuck in the spare room?Sam and Jeff get a little heated in their debate over this one. They end with a few current events and a surprising connection to the Bill Cosby case.
2021-07-0938 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 46: Blackout or MURDER?! Who Killed Sarah GonsteadThis week we're closing out pride month with another LGBTQI+ murder case. How precious!Sam tells the tale of a boozy night of fun gone wrong. In 1994 in Madison, Wisconsin Penny Brummer goes out for a night of partying with Sarah Gonstead. According to Penny, they had a seemingly good night. But what happens at the end of the night is anyone's guess or is it? Penny Brummer is charged with the execution style murder of Sarah Gonstead a good friend of her former girlfriend.Penny claims she blacked out drunk and has no recollection of th...
2021-07-0236 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 45: PRIDE EDITION: Toronto Gay Village Serial KillerThis week we're celebrating PRIDE MONNTTHHH with a serial killer who target brown gay men. How uplifting! Bruce McCarthur was well known and liked within the gay village of Toronto. Owner of landscaping company and local Santa, no one could imagine the horror he was inflicting on the gay community.As man after man went missing in the Toronto gay village, the LGBTQIA community started putting pressure on the Toronto police force to take notice. NO ONE was looking into these disappearances or taking them seriously. Not until -- a WHITE gay men goes missing. HM...
2021-06-2445 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 44: Sarah Widmer..Accident or MURDER?On this weeks episode, we discuss the chilling death of Sarah Widmer. Sarah was found dead in her bathtub by her husband Ryan. How did this newly married Sarah die? Was it an accidental drowning due to a medical condition? Or was it at the hands of her husband in a brutal drowning death?Come listen and explore all of the theories and suspicions around this murder case, as well as how Ryan has been tried THREE TIMES already for the same crime... THIS ONE IS WILD !
2021-06-1828 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 43: What the F*ck happened to Morgan IngramMorgan Ingram was being stalked. Night after night someone watched her from her bedroom window, tapping and then running away. Following her from her car, staring at her through her bathroom window. Morgan was terrified. So terrified she started sleeping in her parents closet at night. Her parents never left her alone in the house and installed cameras everywhere.The police were called time and time again and no one was ever caught-- and no one was taking this seriously. Until the tragic morning when Steve and Toni Ingram, Morgan's parents, found Morgan unresponsive in her bed. The me...
2021-06-1148 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 42: What the F*ck happened to Tupac and Biggie?In this week's episode we discover just HOW uneducated Sam is about hip hop and hip hop culture. Suge Knight vs. Puff Daddy? East Coast vs West Coast? Death Row vs Bad Boys? WHAT THE HECK DOES IT ALL MEAN? How did a growing friendship and brotherhood between Tupac and Biggie end up in brutal murders of two wildly talented men?Was Suge Knight behind the both murders? Did Death Row hire LAPD officers to kill Tupac and Biggie and cover up their crimes?Or was it just tragic gang war fare that l...
2021-06-0434 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 41: Robbie HawkinsThis week we've moved from 1990's: The Deadliest Decade. We know, we're sorry! But for the love of god and all that is holy we had to move on. On this episode Jeff covers Episode 1 of Evil Lives Here: What happened to Robbie. It explores the concept of nature vs. nurture-- are psychopaths born that way or is it their environment?Robbie Hawkins at a young age was demonstrating violent behaviors and soon his father and step mother found themselves institutionalizing him at the age of 4. In and out of group homes his whole life, Ro...
2021-05-2830 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 40: 1990s The Deadliest Decade: A House in the WoodsOn this weeks podcast we're continuing our journey of the 1990's: The Deadliest Decade with the episode A House in the Woods. We're almost done with the entire series! Thank you for joining us on this crazy ride of horrid shows ! This week we are launched to the Pacific Northwest where Lisa Carlson is found murdered in her home. At first the cops believe it could have been a home invasion gone wrong, but the precarious position Lisa is found post-mortem leaves them to begin looking at suspects...closer to home.Who could have killed Lisa...
2021-05-2135 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 39: 1990's The Deadliest Decade: Don't Ask Don't TellOn this week's episode we're continuing our coverage of the 1990's the Deadliest Decade with episode 8: Don't Ask Don't Tell. This episode covers the tragic murder of Allen Schindler and the cover up that followed the murder by the U.S. government. Allen, enlisted in the U.S. Navy, was brutally attacked by two fellow navel men solely based on the fact that Allen was a gay man. A local military newspaper in an attempt to find out more information on this murder, stumbled upon a government cover up of the facts and basis of this case.
2021-05-1435 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 38: 1990s the Deadliest Decade - A Dangerous ManOn this weeks episode of the pod, we're still on 1990s the Deadliest Decade --Episode 7: A Dangerous Man.Jonathan Levin was someone who thought money and wealth was a horcrux to society. To get fulfillment out of life, he dedicated himself to being an english teacher at Taft High School, which was on the toughest High Schools in the United States. Jonathan was unwavering in his support and belief in his students, staying late and giving up his weekends to tutoring and life lessons. That is why it was a shock to the entire Bronx co...
2021-05-0733 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 37: 1990s the Deadliest Decade - Roid RageAnd we're back with another episode from 1990s the Deadliest Decade with ROID RAGE! This week we're headed to Miami (Welcome to Miami!..) to try to solve the kidnapping of Frank Griga and Krisztina Furton. Who took Frank and Krisztina and where could they be? A crack in the case comes from a similar situation that happened to Marc Schiller, a man who had been beaten, extorted of all of his assets, and left for dead. Did those who did this to Marc also kidnap Frank and Krisztina? What was the motive behind these crimes? Come along as we lear...
2021-04-3036 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 36: 1990's the Deadliest Decade: Soldier of MisfortuneThis episode we start with a HAPPY BIRTHDAY shout out to your favorite host. Sam!! She then goes on to completely forget what day she is born on and spouts off true crime facts for April 20th and not April 19th the actual day of her birth. This will be addressed next episode, but THANK GOD she's pretty!We continue with the 1990's the Deadliest Decade series with the episode Soldier of Misfortune . Tracie McBride's one goal in life was to enlist in the US Army. She was a fun. warm. and determine woman and soon after...
2021-04-2329 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 35: 1990s the Deadliest Decade: The Lords of ChaosCruise with us to 1996, for the fourth episode of 1990's the deadliest decade. It was one year and one day past the bombing of Oklahoma City when a pepsi plant was bombed in Fort Meyers Florida. No one had any idea who had committed such an act of domestic terrorism, but soon the police couldn't focus on this, as a favored teacher in Fort Meyers was found dead, shot point blank in the threshold of his home. Who could have done such a thing? Was it his new girlfriend, or possibly his new girlfriends MARRIED CURRENT BOYFRIEND? Or was it s...
2021-04-1627 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 34: 1990s the Deadliest Decade: Death of an AngelThis week we're on episode 3 of our 1990's the Deadliest Decade coverage with : Death of an Angel. It was 1996 and NYC Club kids were running the party scene. Michael Alig was the king of club promotion and everyone who was anyone was at his party. Andre Melendez, a pier queen at the time, was sucked into the club kid life by Michael Alig and was soon selling every synthetic drug imaginable. Everyone knew if you saw two large angel wings that Andre "Angel" Melendez was there to keep the party going. That is until he disappeared. Club kids were not...
2021-04-0933 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 33: 1990s The Deadliest Decade: The murder of Shanda SharerWe continue with the TV series 1990s: The Deadliest Decade with Episode 2, The New Girl. Trigger warning for this episode. This is by far the most gruesome and disgusting case we've covered to date, and that is an understatement.Shanda Sharer was an innocent 12 year old girl who fell in love with another classmate at her new school. This classmate , Amanda Heavrin, not only brought new feelings to Shanda that she never experienced before, but also made her the target for Amanda Heavrin's ex-girlfriend jealousy.It was this jealousy that made Melinda Loveless hunt down th...
2021-04-0236 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 32: 1990s The Deadliest Decade: Doris Elizabeth AngletonThis week Sam stumbled upon a new true crime series --- 1990's the DEADLIEST DECADE!! It turned out to be a treasure trove of true crime stories and for the next 8 weeks, we'll be covering each episode one by one. Episode one was labeled LONE STAR and covered the death of Houston socialite Doris Elizabeth Angleton. Doris was found murdered in her kitchen and the police immediately began looking at her husband for the death.. but he was coaching their daughters softball game at the time -- how could it be him? Could it possibly have been her s...
2021-03-2635 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 31: Sabotaged ClarinetistHave you even been so in love it drove you to do crazy things? Have you ever lied or catfished in the name of love? Eric Abramovitz experienced all of the above it cost him greatly. Listen to this wild story of how one clarinetist career was destroyed in the name of love Jeff also talks about his old cat fishing ways and shares some crazy ideas of how to catch your loved ones in their CHEATING WAYS!
2021-03-1924 minIt Just Makes SenseThe Jenny Jones Show MurderEveryone who grew up in the late 90's early 2000 remembers the ambush episodes of talk shows -- paternity tests, cheating scandals, and love triangles. No one was more shocked by their ambush than Jonathan Schmitz...and three days later he faced his embarrassment in the most grizzly way, shocking the nation. When episodes of talk shows go wrong-- who is responsible? The people on the shows or the producers and talk show hosts themselves? Especially when it could lead to murder... LISTEN IN TO HEAR THE WHOLE CRAZY STORY!
2021-03-1235 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 29: Lizzie Borden took an Axe.. OR DID SHE?We all know the age old nursery rhyme "Lizzi Borden took an Axe--Gave her Mother 40 whacks. When she saw what she had done, gave her father 41." But is the rhyme true? Did Lizzi Borden brutally murder her father and step mother? Or was there another suspect involved? What was the motive for murder? Was Lizzie greedy for the family money... or did she have a torrid love affair she was trying to hide? Listen in to our deep dive on all things Borden!
2021-03-0537 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 28: Michael Jackson is Innocent!Are you fan of Michael Jackson? Have you followed his entire career? Then you know of the heinous LIES that have tarnished his legacy of child abuse and molestation. This week we cover the documentary Square One: Michael Jackson that cover all of the inconsistencies and lies that come from the Chandler family -- the first family to accuse Michael of any abuse. The facts uncovered from this case are INSANE and we will FOREVER stan Michael Jackson!!
2021-02-2653 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 27: Dating App Horror Stories Part TwoWe covered the pitfalls and dangers of online dating before -- but we never dived into the laws behind it. If you meet someone online and it ends up being a horror story, who is responsible? Is the dating app liable for any acts of violence or assault that occurs on dates between two matches? What if the sites have been warned by prior victims? WHO DO YOU THINK IS IN THE WRONG? Listen in to this week as we debate the legalities around this very issue!
2021-02-1935 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 26: The Children of Thunder CultWhat makes a cult? Is it the amount of people that follow a certain belief? It is that there is a specific set of beliefs followed? This week we debate what constitutes a cult while also discussing the Children of Thunder Cult and the senseless acts of violence that were committed to further their cults mission.
2021-02-1242 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 25: Blue River Murder - With Special Guest !This weeks episode dives into the murder of Stephanie Roller who was found dead in Silverthorne Colorado. There were many suspects in Stephanie's death:Dale - Her HusbandRon Holthaus - Stephanie's secret boyfriend (whaaat)Ron Holthaus's Wife - (another whaat)Who could have done it? Who had the true motive? We also have a special guest, Maggie Marino who spent summers working with the murderer. What did she know? Was she surprised when she heard of the murder ? LISTEN AND FIND OUT!
2021-02-0535 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 24: What the F*ck happened to Garrett Phillips Part 2This is part two of the murder of Garrett Phillips. In this episode we dive into the terror of Mary Rain -- District Attorney of Potsdam. Mary had it out for Nick Hillary and digs her claws in until she can get an indictment. We also toy with the idea of other suspects, especially John Jones ...a deputy Sherriff of Potsdam at the time of the murder..and ex boyfriend of the mother of Garrett Phillips. This is one messssyyy case. Listen to find out who we think killed Garrett Phillips.
2021-01-2935 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 23: What the F*ck happened to Garrett Phillips?This is going to be a two part series. This case is so insane we couldn't cover it all in one go. This weeks episode we recap the HBO documentary Who Killed Garrett Phillips and dive into the death of Garrett Phillips and how the entire town of Potsdam railroaded an innocent black man. Listen to how Nick Hillary is immediately deemed guilty by the court of public opinion. This case will drive you insane and have you screaming WHO KILLED GARRETT PHILLIPS?!?
2021-01-2245 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 22: The Terror of Dr. Quincy FortierNot much leaves Jeff speechless.. and this week ya'll, we did it. This week we cover the HBO documentary Baby God and the INSANE story of Dr. Quincy Fortier. Dr. Fortier spent YEARS heralded as one of the top fertility specialist in the United States.. but how did he obtain such accolades? What made his couples experience the joy of pregnancy? Listen to find out the true reason behind his success, and the evil that lived inside of him.
2021-01-1528 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 21: The murder of Martha ErblingerHave you ever heard of Marta Erblinger? How about Albert Soleilland? Not many have but this case changed Parisian history. The heinous death of Marta Erblinger moved the media at the time to stir the people of Paris in a frenzy to overturn the death penalty and put Albert Seoleilland to death. Listen to the episode to see just how this all occurred, if law was changed, and what led to Alberts eventual death.
2021-01-0825 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 20: Alabama SnakeOn this week episode we explore the HBO Documentary Alabama Snake. The case is about Glenn and Darlene Summerford and what exactly happened one night in Scottsboro Alabama when Darlene Summerford called the police to report her husband had attempted to kill her by poisonous snake. The case itself involves serpant handling, religion, sex, and attempted murder. ALLLLLL the ingredients for a wild true crime case. Listen and come up with your own theories of what happened to Darlene .
2021-01-0140 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 19: The Devils of DaytonIt's the Merriest time of the year! Time for our first Christmas Episode! Jeff is driving tranwreck this week covering the Devils of Dayton, four teenagers who went on a three day killing spree for NO APPARENT REASON. What was the motive --- Money? Lust? Drugs? or just plain stupidity? Listen in and find out!
2020-12-2538 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 18: The 22 Caliber KillerThis weeks episode is another Buffalo case, and another serial killer! The 22 caliber killer was tearing a part the city of Buffalo by killing African American men without any cause or reason splitting an already racially segregated city even further. The Buffalo police were struggling to determine who the assailant was and eventually had to bring in the FBI to profile the case to begin to get an idea of exactly who this monster was.. Listen to find out the wild story of how this killer was eventually caught and justice was served.
2020-12-1836 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 17: The Bike Path RapistThis week we tackle our first SERIAL KILLER!! I know, ya'll have been waiting for this moment! We discuss another Buffalo case, the Bike Path Rapist. The episode goes into his numerous victims, how he wasn't caught right away and how being a "pillar of the community" could lead police astray... This case also led into another Buffalo exoneration! Buckle up for a wild ride!
2020-12-1133 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 16: The San Antonio FourOn this week of It Just Makes Sense we'll be discussing the horribly sad story of the San Antonio Four and their fight for exoneration. This case takes on the idea of satanic panic, the discrimination of the LGBTQIA+ community and how true friendship can last behind bars and over many years. Come join us on this wild ride! ...And find out why Sam is a ride or die Camila Parker Bowles fan..
2020-12-0442 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 15: The Kidnapping of Polly KlaasOn October 1st 1993, 12 year old Polly Klaas and two of her friends were having a fun filled girls night sleep over. Little did they know, hours into the sleep over, and intruder would come in and kidnap Polly and leave the other two girls bound and gagged. What turned into a nationwide man hunt for Polly's kidnapper, join us as we discuss the crazy kidnapping of Polly Klaas. This one is wild ya'll!!
2020-11-2731 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 14: What the F*ck happened to Johnny Gosch?!On this weeks episode we tackle the 1982 disappearance of Johnny Gosch. This case is one that covers sex trafficking, pedophilia, FBI cover ups and more. Not only did it shock the entire Midwest when it happened, but it's still blowing our minds 30 years later. What happened to Johnny? What led to Jeff screaming that the podcast is over when we get hit with a court BOMBSHELL in 1992? Do we love or hate Noreen Gosch? Give this weeks episode a listen and let us know all of your feelings!
2020-11-2039 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 13: The Theranos ScandalThis weeks episode takes on a scam artist, Elizabeth Holmes. How did she convince some of the most influential and prominent people in society to invest MILLIONS of dollars into her biotech firm that ended up being nothing but false claims? How did her deep voice convince the world that she was going to change the entire world of health care without anyone actually auditing her product? Was it her pretty face? Would have Elizabeth's time have spent better served creating her own cult? Honestly -- Just listen to find out!
2020-11-1333 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 12 : The exoneration of Lynn DejacThis weeks episode dives into a Buffalo case. The first woman to ever be exonerated based on DNA evidence. Lynn Dejac was convicted of killing her 13 year old daughter Crystallyn Girard. This case is WILD there is false confessions, untested DNA evidence and what we refer to as the new king of Buffalo, the best cold case detective out there.. Dennis Delano. Come with us on this wild ride of a case!
2020-11-0647 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 11 - Political Sex ScandalsWith the election around the corner, we're talking about Jeff's favorite topic this week --POLITICS!! Before you turn off the podcast because you're sick of hearing about politics, we merged it with our other favorite topic - SEX! This week we cover some of the more unknown political sex scandals out there and debate whether someone's sexual history should be taken into consideration when running for office, or from resigning ones position. What do you think? And what president from history would you sleep with?
2020-10-3030 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 10: What the F*ck happened to Princess Diana?!On this episode of It just Make Sense we drive into Operation Paget and the accident that took Princess Diana's life. Was it planned by the royal family? Was it a tragic accident caused by drunk driving? Was Princess Diana pregnant at the time of her death? Listen to find out where you stand!
2020-10-2538 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 9: Separated at BirthThis weeks episode Jeff is the one with the case and takes us on a WILD ride. We discuss the crazy store of how two daughters born to Regina Twigg and Barbara Mays days apart end up switched within the hospital and grow up in the wrong parents household. How did this happen? When did they find out? Was there a custody battle? Was this a PLANNED switch? LISTEN TO FIND OUT and hear Sam GASP the entire time!
2020-10-1623 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode 8: What the fuck happened to Brittany Murphy?From Clueless to Girl Interrupted to Uptown Girls. Brittany Murphy was a national treasure. Her death shocked the world. What happened to her? Was it toxic mold? Death by poison? Orrr as the coroner reports, pneumonia? WHAT HAPPENED? This episode we'll deep dive into Brittany's death and our theories on what happened to this beautiful angel.
2020-10-0929 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode Seven : Dating App Horror StoriesWhen Dating Apps go wrong. On this episode Sam and Jeff discuss some murderous happenings when dating apps go wrong. Jeff then goes on to give us his full history of dating horrors. You don't want to miss this episode!
2020-10-0229 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode Six - The Murder of Dee Dee BlanchardThis weeks episode we cover the murder of Dee Dee Blanchard. While this isn't a cold case, we do discuss whether the time fits the crime. Was Nick Godejohn's sentence of life in prison too harsh? Should his crime be reduced due to his mental capacity? Do you think Gypsy deserved ten years in prison? Listen to hear our theory!
2020-09-2542 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode Five - PsychicsDo you believe in psychic abilities? Are a firm believer in Sylvia Brown? This episode is for you! We'll discuss the differences between psychics and mediums, some wild stories that prove psychic experiences as well as some solid evidence of fraudsters and liars!
2020-09-1831 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode Four - NXIVM CultWould you join a cult? What if a hot celebrity was recruiting you for a sex cult? All things to consider during this weeks episode of IT JUST MAKES SENSE. We dive into the past of Keith Raniere and explore the pillars of the NXIVM "executive success classes", and how Allison Mack ruined women's lives.
2020-09-1131 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode Three - There's Something Wrong with Aunt DianeThis weeks episodes explores the Diane Schuler and the tragic 2009 Taconic State Parkway Crash leading people to ask "What happened to Aunt Diane?"?
2020-09-0437 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode Two - The Wayfair Sex ScandalThis episode we explore the wayfair sex trafficking conspiracy theory. Is it true? WHERE ARE THESE MISSING CHILDREN?!
2020-09-0420 minIt Just Makes SenseEpisode One - Scott Peterson is innocent!This weeks episode we will be discuss how Scott Peterson is innocent.
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