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REVcoverySpeaking in Church with Justin GentryAs a Friday treat we have a Bonus Episode from one of our Irreverent Media partners, Speaking in Church!In this episode (recorded September 2021) Josephine Jael Jimenez and Spencer Rose interview Justin Gentry on doubting as a pastor and how to navigate the challenges that come from leaving your faith. This is different from our normal content but we thought you might enjoy a change of pace. Don't worry we will be releasing another episode of REVcovery this Tuesday!CW: We do touch on miscarriage and childbirth during this episode so if that is a...2022-02-181h 03
Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez60. Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza & Rev. Anna Golladay on Making Space for Liberation in Your TheologyContent Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses prejudice, gentrification, exclusion, and immigration so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.
Many communities create a dualistic environment where one is focused on either action or belief. Put another way: Some folks get overly focused on right belief (orthodoxy) and other folks get overly focused on right action (orthopraxis). This week’s Space Makers, Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza and Rev. Anna Golladay, are the hosts of the Activist Theology Podcast, a podcast born out of the Activist Theology Project. Both th...2021-07-201h 00Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez59. Nathanial Totten Green on Making Space Through Graphic DesignContent Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses non-affirming schools and churches, gentrification and exclusion, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.
More and more than ever before, our “first impressions” are happening online. This is true for dating, but also for how we first perceive any organization. When looking at a website or online posting we intuitively know if this is “a space” for us. This week’s Space Maker, Nathanial Totten Green, creates online and in person gatherings that seek to continually welcome and include. Nathanial ...2021-07-131h 00Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez58. Dr. Brad Onishi on Making Space for Critical ThinkingThis week, we are joined by fellow Irreverent podcaster, Dr. Brad Onishi. Brad is the co-host of the widely beloved (and sometimes hated) podcast Straight White American Jesus. They tackle all things Evangelicalism and it's ties to right-wing Christian nationalism. In this episode, we talk about Orange County, where the three of us have lived at some point, and how it has become a breeding ground for the biggest movements within right-wing Evangelicalism. But even these people need some space in the world, regardless of whether we agree with them. Brad is on a mission to uncover the roots of...2021-07-061h 01Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez57.5. Making Spaces on Making Space for AnnouncementsFriends, we have something to tell you.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices2021-06-2910 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez57. Stephanie Tait on Making Space for Every SeasonContent Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses trauma, chronic pain, disability and deaths related to Covid 19, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.
Making spaces, like a flower garden, that serve no “purpose” other than beauty teaches us that worth is not predicated by “usefulness.” This week’s Space Maker, Stephanie Tait, joined us for a conversation from her garden to discuss the lessons of resistance she has learned over the last year tending her garden. Stephanie is an author, speaker, disability advocate, and trauma survivor. Her work a...2021-06-221h 11Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez56. Rebecca Ching on Making Unburdened SpacesContent Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses trauma, suicide, and gender roles so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.
In some capacity, we are all leaders and, whether we recognize it or not, we have impact on the spaces in which we exist. This week’s Space Maker is Rebecca Ching, LMFT. Rebecca is a psychotherapist, a trauma informed leadership coach, and the host of the podcast “The Unburdened Leader.” This conversation was a deep dive into why it takes courage to choose kindness and how being...2021-06-151h 00Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez55. The Dirty Rotten Church Kids on Making Space to LaughContent Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses childhood trauma, faith transitions, and difficult family relationships so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.
Throughout history, people have used humor to make space to discuss the things that culture has deemed taboo. This week’s Space Makers, Josh Link and Adrian Gibbs, use humor to have difficult conversations around American Evangelical Christian culture. Josh and Adrian, or perhaps better known by their moniker “Dirty Rotten Church Kids,” use a blend of genius memes, tiktok greatness, podcast goodness, and fun me...2021-06-081h 08Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez54. Chris Rodriguez on Making Space for OurselvesContent Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses childhood trauma, faith transitions, and racial discrimination so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.
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This week, we had another incredible conversation with Space Maker, Chris Rodgriguez. As you may remember from Episode 31, Chris is a mindset and movement coach who helps people connect their work, their souls, and their bodies. Chris returns to the show to discuss the need for making physical space and time to do our own internal work so you can be present for ot...2021-06-011h 08Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez53. Blake Chastain on Making Space for ExvangelicalsMaking Space for our own spiritual journey often takes us down a path of leaving our familiar religious community and that can leave one feeling disoriented and alone. This week’s Space Maker is Blake Chastain, someone who has spent the last five years connecting people who have the shared story of experiencing a faith shift. Blake is the host of the Exvangelical and Powers & Principalities podcasts and is the writer of The Post-Evangelical Post newsletter. Blake coined the #exvangelical hashtag, alongside the launch of the Exvangelical podcast, in July 2016 and since then, the podcast has been downloaded over 500,000 times. Th...2021-05-2554 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez52. Crystal Steckel & John Keeling on Making Space for ChangeContent Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses suicide, and head trauma, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.
One of the unique features of the human species is the desire to live a ”meaningful, purpose driven life.” From master classes to bumper stickers, everyone seems to have a suggestion on how we can find our unique purpose in the world. It takes boldness and fearlessness to actually make the space in our lives to evaluate if we are indeed happy with the direction of our lives and...2021-05-181h 04Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez51. Rev. Dr. Rudy Rasmus on Making Space for the People in Front of YouContent Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses suicide and addiction, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.
It’s hard to imagine that you could feel alone when Beyoncé is amongst your friends, when you’ve created programs and systems that have housed and cared for thousands, and you are the lead pastor of a large progressive church. But as this week’s Space Maker will teach us, until we separate our work from our identity, we will always feel isolated. This week’s space maker is the in...2021-05-111h 04Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez50. Mum and Ama on Making Space: The Mother's Day EpisodeHappy Mother's Day! Listen to our conversations with our mothers, where we ask them all about making space, both literally and figuratively. First up is Christine Heath and then it's Josie's bilingual conversation with her mom, Susana Jimenez.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2opo2...2021-05-0449 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez49. Mason Mennenga on Making Space for People in Theology and WorshipWhen we enter into any space, the question we all ask is, “Do I belong here?” This week’s Space Maker, Mason Mennenga, spent years participating in a church community that invited everyone to belong through participation. From infant to scholar, everyone has something to offer and their worship service provided the space for all forms of participation. Spending his formative years in such an intentional community helped Mason become someone who makes space in all of his work for everyone. As an aspiring Theologian, Podcaster, YouTuber, and well known twitter user, Mason tries to engage complex philosophies and concepts in a w...2021-04-271h 04Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez48. Jackie Gronlund on Making Space for the Journey HomeContent Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses eating disorders, body image disorders, and mental illness, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.
This week’s Space Maker Jackie Gronlund has been on a lifelong journey to find a space to label “ home.” During our conversation she shared with us one of the big discoveries she made on that journey- finding home meant finding a healthier relationship with her own body. Jackie, a former YouTube star, and author, knew that this discovery wasn’t a unique experience as many o...2021-04-2049 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez47. Natalie Reed on Making Space for Health At All SizesContent Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses eating disorders, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.
On this week's episode, we dive in deep to all things body positivity and food with Registered Dietitian, Natalie Reed! In a culture where only certain bodies have been celebrated, the three of us talk about where we hope to see change through body positivity and the way we view the food we eat. As a RDN, Natalie work with people to help them get healthy, which she reminds us...2021-04-1356 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez46. Spencer Rose Taylor on Making Space to Speak In ChurchThis week, we are joined by Space Maker, Spencer Rose Taylor! Spencer is a podcaster over at the Speaking in Church podcast, co-hosted by our very own Josie. Her passion for making space for others comes from her call to ministry and the barriers she’s faced in that call because of her gender. The Speaking in Church podcast is all about Christianity then, now and the future. On the pod, they talk about everything from current events and how your theology informs your responses to them to other hot topics in the Church. It’s a show aimed for deco...2021-04-061h 03Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez45. Savannah Carreno on Making Space for Big QuestionsThis week’s space maker is Savannah Rae Carreno. Savannah is the creator and primary writer for “The Juice Edit” website, and hosts the incredible conversation based “Please Elaborate” ministry. She makes space both online and in person by inviting people to ask hard questions and explore educated perspectives on every topic leaving nothing out as taboo. Online her Juice Edit website is a place she describes as, “where culture and theology collide awkwardly.” In both spaces Savannah creates space for people to question the lenses with which they regard the world whether that be from a cultural or a religious pers...2021-03-301h 01
Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez44. Halleemah Nash on Making Space to Create What Your Younger Self NeededThis week’s space maker is Halleemah Nash. Halleemah is a proud product of Compton, California – a city that has greatly shaped her ambition, values, and interest in reaching back as she climbs. She is a first-generation college graduate who holds a Bachelor of Arts in Business Administration from Howard University, and a Master of Divinity from Duke University and Certificate in Nonprofit Management from North Carolina Central University. Her resume is impressive working with everyone from the United Nations to the celebrity brand of Kobe Bryant- but her heart has always been in creating spaces for other people to h...2021-03-2355 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez43. Peter Lublink on Making Space for Empowering International AidThe words “International Missions'' can hold lots of problematic and harmful connotations. Often when people make space for a more progressive faith, they want to reject the entire notion of international aid, but maybe there is another way to think about it. A way where helping doesn’t hurt, but empowers. This week’s space maker Peter Lublick is the executive director of the non profit organization Bethanykids. The organization helps train surgeons, and makes it fiscally possible for them to serve their own communities in 7 different African countries. The program also helps fund pediatric care for children in those...2021-03-1654 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez42. Brenda Davies on Making space to be Inquisitive, Fearless, Sex-positive ChristiansOften Making Space requires us to step out of the communities and the mindsets we previously held closely. After taking that step out it can be surprising when we discover that wholeness and integration require us to make peace with the places we once had to reject and to share new perspectives and experiences with both our old and new communities. This week’s Space Maker Brenda Davies never set out to become an expert in Christian sexual ethics/ theology, nor when she packed her bags for Hollywood did she see herself becoming a youtube star, but once she ex...2021-03-091h 02
Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie JimenezEp. 41 Season Three Opener with Kevin GarciaSeason Three of Making Spaces had to begin with one of our favorite space makers... Kevin Garcia. Kevin is a Spiritual Director and Intuitive Life Coach. Through his work as a digital pastor and public theologian, Kevin has used their writing, podcast, and YouTube Channel to help foster communities of authentic spiritual seeking, helping people pull apart bad theology and beginning to reconstruct sustainable spiritual practices. Kevin is a fantastic conversation partner and a recurring guest of the making spaces podcast. This episode includes a conversation about why we need to face mortality to truly live, and how to...2021-03-0255 min
Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie JimenezEp 40. The One about the Healing Power of Art with Lanecia Rouse TinsleyHow do you know when it's time to step out of “good work” to make space for “great work?” After a traumatic loss Lanecia Rouse Tinsley, this week’s space maker, took the bold leap of stepping out of creative ministry with those experiencing homelessness to become a full time creative herself. Lanecia is now a multidisciplinary visual artist and the owner and creator of LAR Art Studio. Her artistic portfolio includes a range of work in abstract painting, photography, teaching, writing, speaking. Her workshop and community art experiences challenge others to make space for their own creativity. This conversati...2021-01-191h 06Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie JimenezEp. 39 The One about Being Original with Recording Artist I.V KingHow is being in a cover band a little like living your life in “the closet”? Well listen to this episode and find out. This week we talk to space maker Ivy Schulte known by her stage name at I.V King. I.V is a former church kid/ drummer, bible college graduate, banker, touring musician, and now solo recording artist. Getting to this point has taken a lot of space making for herself and others. In this conversation, I.V shares great wisdom around knowing the right time to take a leap into something new. Make sure to s...2021-01-121h 07Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie JimenezEp. 38.5 Twenty Twenty FunIt's 2021 and Josie and Sarah are looking forward to a year filled with… well take a listen and find out. Don’t forget to subscribe, comment, like to help get the show out to new listeners this year. Also check out the Patreon where you can help support the show and for those in the $25.00 range you will receive a quarterly makers box filled with all kinds of cool space making goodness. This year really is going to be twenty twenty fun! (ok Sarah made that term up just humor her and use it once.)
For Making Spac...2021-01-0524 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie JimenezEp. 38 The One Where Dr. Tripp Fuller Explains the Connection Between Good Theology and Beer.How can you make diverse “ivory tower” theology interesting, and even palatable to the masses? The same way you make well crafted beer- by being intentional about the ingredients you put in, and being willing to share the process. This week’s space making guest is Dr. Tripp Fuller. Tripp is currently a professor in Edinburgh Scotland and the creator/host of the beloved podcast “Homebrewed Christianity.” He has spent his career opening up the theological palate of people by making theology approachable, interesting, and dare we even say fun. His ability to both love the church, and see its faults...2020-12-291h 22Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie JimenezEp. 37 The Christmas One With Cathie Capp Pregnant teen, Princeton Grad and Empathic Pastor.Happy Holidays Space Makers! This is a very special episode featuring Rev. Cathie Capp, an ordained pastor who has an incredibly compelling story of overcoming other’s expectations after leaving high school early and having a child at 16. Cathie went on to beat the odds, becoming a social worker at the very organization that housed her during her pregnancy, and later an ordained United Methodist Pastor. This is a powerful conversation about our need for empathy and how our little decisions make a big difference!
For more on Cathie www.Uumcirvine.org for more on the pregnant te...2020-12-2250 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie JimenezEp. 36 The One Where Dan Davidson Takes the Next Logical StepsThis week we talk to Dan Davidson, a community pastor/ entrepreneur/ mentor/ coffee shop owner who took the obstacle of an unwanted coffee cart and created a business training program for local at risk-youth. That coffee cart eventually became a cafe that hosts events for the entire community. From concerts, to protest art shows, Rosebud Cafe is known throughout Pasadena for its social impact. Dan is an incredible space maker who has been able to navigate big challenges by just focusing on the next logical step. This conversation contains lots of practical tools for creating sustainable/meaningful work. In...2020-12-151h 00Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez35. The One Where Laura Foster Teaches Us How to Become Human Beings.This week on the show we had an incredible conversation with space maker and professional coach Laura Foster. Laura helps people to rethink their vocation and reclaim their human being”ness” and stop being what she calls a “human doing.” After a very successful career in the fashion industry a cancer diagnosis caused Laura to reevaluate her priorities. She ended up leaving her position to go on a search for what brought her joy and purpose. She ended up getting a masters in spiritual psychology and creating a coaching business that helps people move beyond the labels to evaluate what the...2020-12-0852 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez34. The One with Space Maker, Engineer, Shoe Designer, and General Bad Ass Ana KraftThis week’s space maker Ana Kraft is an incredible inspiration. Ana is a project engineer, who happens to speak four languages (NBD,) and has developed a workwear line for women that is designed to break down barriers in STEM industries. Ana came to the US from Southern Germany and has become a space maker for women in STEM. Not satisfied with wearing safety shoes designed for men she took it upon herself to change the entire industry creating Xena Workwear for Women. As she says “What you wear has a major impact on your self-confidence, which in turn impa...2020-12-0100 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez33. The One with Revolutionary Children's Book Author Matthew Paul TurnerThis week we talk to another renaissance creative, Matthew Paul Turner! He is a memoir author, journalist, photographer and children’s book creator. Matthew has been on the forefront of revolutionizing faith based children’s books by creating inclusive texts that any child can enjoy. From using all pronouns to refer to God to being intentional about the language he uses to include all types of families, he is making way for a world that includes all stories. Listen to be inspired by one creative’s journey from self-publishing to being part of a major publication house and how never...2020-11-2400 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez32. The One with Renaissance Creative Steven HomesteadIn a world that increasingly tells you that being specialized will lead to success is it possible to be a renaissance person? This week we talk to Steven Homestead, a true renaissance creative. Steven is a musician/graphic artist/ poet and a “story architect.” This conversation is filled with inspiration and dives into what success looks like, how to allow different forms of creativity to inform other forms, and why progress often looks like willingness to be an amateur.
For more on Steven check out his instagram www.instagram.com/scubahomie and believe it or not you can...2020-11-1700 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez31. The One Where Chris Rodriguez Explains the Language of MovementThis week we share our incredible conversation with Pastor/Musician/Dancer/Embodiment Coach Chris Rodriguez. Chris challenges us to think about movement as an actual language. Chris asserts that when we make space for that language we start to live from a soulful place that helps us make space for ourselves and others. This is one of our favorite conversations! Stick around all the way till the end as Chris give us the saying for our first piece of merch “You belong here because you are here!” Details coming soon…
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https://chrisr...2020-11-1000 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez30. The One Where Artist Scott Erickson Makes Space for Wonder.Sometimes we have to make space for wonder, but how do you do that with things that are familiar? This week we talk to visual artist/spiritual director Scott Erickson about how to make space for wonder even during seasons you don’t enjoy. The conversation goes everywhere from why people don’t remember long sermons, but they will remember what the space looked and felt like to why Christmas can be the least inspiring season. Scott’s incredible son Jones even joins us with some fun background vocals. This conversation couldn’t come at a better time when so...2020-11-0300 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez29. The One Where Rob and Rob Explain our Common Threads.Is it possible to use research to make space for people? A couple of years ago Pastor Rob Rynders set out to answer that question and ended up creating Social Thread a group for people who are looking for community. Social Thread seeks to help people belong and thrive as they explore their faith on their own terms. This week we talk to Rob and his codirector Robert Payne (two Robs are better than one) as they share about what a community looks like when it isn’t centered around shared beliefs. The last 20 mins of this one are pr...2020-10-2700 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez28. The One Where Sarah Begins her Airstream DreamA brief announcement as Sarah begins her Airstream Dream with an epic road trip.
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Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/makingspaces/message2020-10-2000 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez27. The One Where Rev. Mandy McDow Makes Space for the Things That Are Not NegotiableWhat if churches were serious about not having walls? This week we talk to Rev. Mandy McDow the lead pastor of First United Methodist of Las Angeles a completely outdoor church. We often talk about churches without walls, well this church literally has no walls. This conversation deals with the reality that no space is static and making space often means being willing to risk getting down to the essentials.
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To...2020-10-1300 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez26. The One Where Carly Bell Helps Us Reimagine and Redefine Success in BusinessThis week we talk to the absolutely innovative Carly Bell of Whole Co. Media about her approach to helping entrepreneurs find their own versions of success. She tells us all about her “magic sauce” and how it all revolves around authenticity and knowing all of your strengths by name. If you need a little empowerment, this is the episode for you.
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To get in touch with us follow us www.instagram.com/revsarahheath and www.inst...2020-10-0600 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez25. The One Where Trent Thompson Shares Why Art Is More Than Work Made by Poor People for Rich People.This week's Space Maker is artist Trent Thompson. In a world where it can feel like art is all about self-promotion, Trent is all about helping others. In this episode, we talk about the passions behind his people based projects and how Trent is making art accessible and available for all people through the transformation of physical and societal spaces. Listen along as Trent tells us the three things every project must-have.
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To get in touch with us follow us www.in...2020-09-2957 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez24. The One Where Florist Billiann Dunn Shares Why the Wedding Industry Doesn’t Always Smell Like Roses..In the world of business, it’s hard to know what rules to follow. In this episode, we talk to Billiann, a professional florist about the spaces she’s carving out for entrepreneurs like her and how she is learning to redefine the rules. She tells us all about why she runs her business differently than the norm, how she creates stunning floral displays by getting to know her clients, and why the only business worth having is the one that helps you help others.
Billiann is a professional florist currently flourishing in the wedding industry. You can...2020-09-2248 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez23. The One Where Arielle Estoria Shares Why Our Body Should Be the First Space We Think AboutWhen we have so many passions sometimes it’s hard to figure out our space in the world. This conversation with Arielle Estoria talks about how sometimes the way we make our own space isn’t intentional, but it can still open up spaces for others. The conversation covers things like dollar margaritas, getting kicked out of the Huntington Library, being an artist and a person of faith, and why we need to think of our bodies as a space first.
Arielle is a poet, author, speaker, and creative via social media. She likes to craft content that...2020-09-1539 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez22. The One Where Kevin Garcia ReturnsTo kick off our new season we invited back the always insightful, Kevin Garcia. Kevin is a digital pastor and spiritual life coach who makes space for people to find a home within themselves. This conversation goes everywhere from why people are rushing to get the church doors open, even in the midst of a pandemic, to how you can find home in your own body. It begs the question, do we need to feed God? Interested in listening? Great! But be warned, adult language and content is included in this episode as we make space for people’s au...2020-09-081h 04
Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez21. The One Where the World Meets Space Maker Josie Jimenez and Finds Out Why Camping is So Dangerous.New season, new cohost, new theme song, same "space making." This Season kicks off with a get to know you conversation with our new cohost Josie Jimenez. The conversation goes from her overwhelming fear that isolated camping will lead to her being found murdered to why making spaces for other people has been the driving force in a lot of her creative, vocational and academic work. This season is going to be wild so buckle up, friends, because now we have twice the energy and drive to make space in this world and when Josie's on the team, things...2020-09-0132 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie JimenezMaking Spaces AnnouncementThank you for all your support for Season One!!! We are working on Season Two, but in the mean time here is an announcement! Make sure you go check out the youtube content available at www.youtube.com/revsarahheath
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Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/makingspaces/message2020-07-2101 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez20. The One Where Sarah talks with Colby Martin about Shifting BeliefsWhat do we do when making space for ourselves and others creates a massive shift in our belief system? How can we hold onto our belonging and identity when everything feels like it has shifted? I am grateful to Colby Martin the author of “the Shift” and for this conversation about shifting in your beliefs, and finding hope in helping others in the midst of their own shift. Colby was willing to hop on Making Spaces with literally zero preparation and we had an incredible conversation about making space.
Colby wears many hats (which I can...2020-07-1450 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez19. The One Where Sarah Talks To HerDesk Creator Dana Bakich About Creating What You Need Most.I don’t know about you, but I think we all have those friends who make us believe the things we thought were out of reach or impossible are completely attainable, Dana Bakich is one of those people for me. Maybe it's because I have watched the musical Hamilton every day since it came out, but I think the world needs more people like Dana. People who see the unimaginable and are willing to figure out how to create it. She has a "not yet" mentality that makes you believe that you could create anything.
Dana is...2020-07-0741 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez18. The One Where Sarah Talks to Musician Drew Brown About being a Peace MakerFriends today on the podcast I am delighted to share with you my friend Drew Brow. Drew is an artist, advocate, pastor, poet, songwriter storyteller. As a musician he has played everywhere from large festival stages, churches, concert halls, pubs, and holding house concerts across the country. Drew lives just outside of Toronto, Canada, and engages/encourages people to think about antiracism and how to live out justice & an “open table"-minded presence in their own local neighborhood context. Whether it's spending time with people workshopping ideas around social justice and community connectedness or producing songs and al...2020-06-3054 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez16. The One Where Sarah talks to Dave Harder and Bryce Dymond about Shifting Churches to Community SpacesThere is no denying that 2020 has been the year of disruption- some much needed disruption. As systems of privilege are being called out through the work of Black Lives Matter and Covid 19 is teaching us that our health is tied to each other we are rethinking what community looks like and what leadership in that reality looking like. Something new is being born but we are in the liminal space- the question has become how do you make space for what could be while caring for what is?
This week I am excited to share with...2020-06-2553 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez17. The One Where Sarah Talks to Urban Planner Jenna Tourjé about Making Spaces with People not just for PeopleToday I am excited to introduce to you my friend Jenna Tourjé. Jenna is an urban planner, facilitator, and community builder. She walks with communities on the path to making healthy, whole, and equitable places. Her goal is to make spaces where everyone belongs, and is involved in shaping the future of their own neighborhoods. She facilitates conversations on systematic change, community development, immigration reform, equity, and coalition-building in neighborhoods and government agencies throughout California. This conversation could not be more timely as the Black Lives Matter movement reminds us of the importance of recognizing privilege, and the necessity o...2020-06-2343 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez15. The One Where Sarah Talks to Pete Enns and Jared Byas about Making Space for Differing OpinionsWe live in a time that is very polarized and differing opinions seem to be suspect. We need to figure out a way forward, but it seems hard to do if we can't even have a conversation, and we debate only happens from behind computer screens. There are people trying to create spaces where differing opinions are not only welcome, but encouraged, and met with curiosity. Pete Enns and Jared Byas are two of these wonderful humans. They are hosts of the podcast “The Bible for Normal People.”
Pete a professor of Biblical Studies, and Jared a fo...2020-06-0956 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez14. The One Where Sarah Talks to Poet/ Musician/Artist Morgan Harper Nichols About Creating Space for One Story at a TimeFriends, you may already know the work of this week's "Making Spaces Podcast" guest Morgan Harper Nichols. Her well known instagram poetry/visual art is signed with the simple letters MHN. Morgan is an incredibly talented creative. She is a poet, a musician, and a visual artist. Each piece is based on the personal stories her followers send her and offers a sense of hope and solidarity.
Our conversation centers around making space while letting go of our fear of critics or comparison. Morgan is such a gift and this conversation was inspiring and challenging...2020-06-0247 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez13. Special Episode- The One Where Sarah Talks to Pastor Lamont Hartman About Justice and SolidarityFriends Episode 13 is a special episode about making space to engage the topic of racial reconciliation. Episode 14 will be released on the usual day (Tuesday) with artist Morgan Harper Nichols.
For this episode I am grateful to Pastor Lamont Hartman for being willing to record a quick conversation. He offered some helpful practices, and things to take into consideration, when confronting injustice.
Lamont is a seasoned pastor and non-profit developer. He has spent years working around racial reconciliation, and has hosted seminars for people to engage the need for bridge building and deep friendships...2020-06-0129 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez12. Maker's Edition- The One Where Sarah Explains Why Putting Wheels on 100 Year Old Pews Is a Good IdeaYou asked so here is the answer.... What's the deal with wheels on your pews? How does that make space for people? How on Earth did you convince people that this was the way forward? This is a practical episode about what it means to move from "Do It Yourself" to "Do It Together."
This is our first "Makers Episode," and it was a little tricky to make, but I am so glad we did. All of these images and accompanying video will be available on Sarah's Youtube channel available here. I am excited to share...2020-05-2633 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez11. The One where Sarah talks to Mike McHargue about Feelings and not PhysicsI am delighted to share this week’s Making Spaces conversation with Mike McHargue (a.k.a Science Mike.) Mike is one of my best friends, and I always walk away from our conversations feeling grateful for time spent in deep conversation punctuated by a lot of laughter, and this conversation is no different.
Mike is a public educator trusted by millions to use empathy and deep scientific insights to help us navigate some of the most difficult parts of the human experience. Through his podcast “Ask Science Mike”, his books, and all of his speaking engagements, Mike i...2020-05-1954 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez10. The One where Sarah talks about Craft Beer, Jazz and Design with Christian PiattWhat do jazz, craft beer, life on the autism spectrum, and an old auto shop in Texas have to do with making space? Turns out everything!
I am excited to share my conversation with my friend Christian Piatt. Christian is an author, podcast editor, and the owner, designer and founder of Brew Drinkery in Granbury TX.
The Brew Drinkery is a craft beer/community venue that weaves together old and new design elements, all while making space for the avid craft brew enthusiast, and those who have never heard of a hop. Christian...2020-05-1249 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez9. The one where Sarah talks to Jen Hatmaker about making space for our true selves.Friends I am so excited to share with you my conversation with my friend Jen Hatmaker. If you don’t know Jen’s work- she is a speaker, hosts a really great podcast "For the love," runs an online book club, and has written some fantastic books including her newly released "Fierce, Free and full of fire" (I haven't been able to put it down!)
Jen knows a thing or two about making space for people. As Jen began speaking publicly about making space for diversity and LGBTQIA inclusion experienced a fall out with her evangelical roots that...2020-05-0555 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez8. The one where Sarah talks about Mental Health with Robert W. Lee during a global pandemicA lot of us can relate to a heightened feeling of stress, and general anxiety during this Covid 19 crisis, but for those who already experiencing mental health issues this time may only exacerbated already difficult symptoms. As a culture we have a lot to learn about making spaces for people experiencing mental health difficulties- I hope that this episode with my good friend Rev. Robert W. Lee will inspire great conversation and thought around, how do we make space for ourselves during this difficult time?
Rob is a pastor in North Carolina at Unifor...2020-04-2846 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez7. The One where Sarah talks to therapist Elyse Snipes about why we all need a trailer to unpack our baggage (metaphorical and literal.)Who transforms a 1953 trailer into a therapist office and podcast studio?? The one and only Elyse Snipes. This week I am excited to share with you my conversation with Elyse Snipes creator of Radical Wellness Collective. This conversation was so helpful! As an Enneagram four, this lady leads with creativity and authenticity that is nothing short of inspirational.
Elyse is bringing a lot of goodness into the world- she is a licensed marriage and family therapist, hosts a podcast called "Trailercast", and is the Founder of Radical Wellness Collaborative. Radical Wellness Collaborative is...2020-04-2146 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez6. The one where Sarah talks to Designer Jessie McLaughlin about shame free design.This week I am excited to share with you my conversation with Jessie McLaughlin the creator and designer behind Jessie Lane Interiors in LA. Her work includes bold colors and original multipurpose furniture. Jessie and I talk about how dental office design was influential in her life, why we sometimes second guess our own intuition, and we offer some helpful tips for maintaining sanity during this time of sheltering in place. We also talk about how I missed my true calling designing the interior of vet clinics. She is truly such a joy in my life and...2020-04-1455 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez5. The One where Sarah talks to a curator of spaces for entrepreneur women.This week I got to chat with the amazing Joanna Waterfall. Joanna is the Founder of Yellow Co, an organization birthed from an idea that struck her one day while she was in the shower. With a degree in graphic design and digital media and a background in branding, she believes that creativity, business, community and social impact should all go hand in hand. She and her work have been featured in publications such as Forbes, The Huffington Post, Darling Magazine, The Good Trade, LA Lady Magazine, Bossladies Magazine, and more. This conversation inspired me and I think it...2020-04-0741 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez4. The One where Sarah talks to a therapist about closets This episode was recorded before we were asked to shelter in place, but I think it has some great things for us to think about as we create space for others, or look for spaces to invest in. I am excited for you to hear my conversation with Candice Czubernat, LMHC, MFT an incredible therapist and the founder of the online therapy platform “the Christian closet.” Our conversation goes everywhere from how to be a good ally, to why it's important to be curious about other people.
To Learn more about Candice and follow her on I...2020-03-3149 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez3. The One where Sarah talks to Designer Riley HallI am so excited to introduce to you Riley Hall a dear friend of mine, and an incredible designer. Riley "creates space" as a designer in the staging industry. He knows what it takes to make a space seem intentionally styled, but approachable. Our conversation went everywhere from how to lay out a room, to why everyone should have a signature candle.
This show will first air while we are all still experiencing social distancing and sheltering in place during the covid-19 outbreak, and so it may seem weird to talk about gathering spaces but everything...2020-03-2459 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez2. The One about the Pandemic with Rev. Jeremy SmithNothing like launching a podcast about the need for proximity while a pandemic is causing us to have to have to distance ourselves, but during this time there are unique ways to continue to “make space” for connection and community that could last longer than the outbreak itself.
This week I talk to Rev. Jeremy Smith. Jeremy is a pastor of a church in Seattle near one of the areas that the CDC has deemed a "hot spot." He and his team had to figure out how to cultivate community during "social distancing" way before the rest...2020-03-1735 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez1. The one where Sarah talks to Kevin Garcia about closetsKevin Garcia is a spiritual director, intuitive soul coach, writer, speaker, and my dear friend. We talk about why cleaning out closets is so much more than just organizing, why being hospitable is more than just what can be seen, and why labels are actually important. Out of site and out of mind is not a real thing.
Disclaimer *I believe in authenticity, so I don’t sugar coat thoughts or language, but we bleep out the big cusses (I also think bleeping is funny.)
To find out more about Kevin and their new bo...2020-03-1052 minMaking Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie JimenezTrailer- "Making Spaces"No church storage closet is left unturned as we restore, renew, and reconcile. We're talking Queer Eye meets Marie Kondo meets the Vicar of Dibley. (If Chip and Jo want to come too, I won't object.)
We live in a social and political climate that thrives on making us more and more divided. We need proximity and relationships to break down this division, but our most inclusive spaces are often run down and uninviting.... and if we are honest smell a bit like a nursing home.
This podcast will discuss how to transform the spaces...2020-03-0302 min