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It's a Very Exciting TimeJFK Advisor Malmgren Handled UFO DebrisHarald Malmgren was an advisor to multiple US presidents, including JFK, and involved in numerous historic incidents, including in the war room during the Cuban missile crisis. Days before he died, he gave a final interview to Jesse Michels, exploring his interactions with the UAP topic throughout his life. He makes several interesting claims, including that he saw footage of a UFO being brought down during a nuclear test, held UAP debris in Los Alamos, and was briefed on UAP crash recoveries by CIA deputy director Richard Bissell.You can find show notes and references at...2025-04-281h 25It's a Very Exciting TimeSkywatcher: “100% Success Rate” Summoning UAPUAP whistleblower Jake Barber’s group, Skywatcher, has had a busy few weeks. They announced they intend to prove mechanical and psionic UAP summoning by the end of the year. To support that goal, they released a scientific discovery framework, a structured way to handle UAP research, with six levels that each require more scrutiny before eventually graduating to public acceptance. Plus, they dropped the second episode of their documentary series, which discussed the mechanical “dog whistle” they’ve developed, with a 100% success rate summoning UFOs, and included a classification guide to make sense of the different types of UAP they...2025-04-141h 18It's a Very Exciting TimeUAP Whistleblower Grusch Hired to Assist Task ForceRep. Eric Burlison has hired UAP whistleblower David Grusch to his personal staff. This will allow Grusch to advise Burlison (who is on the House Oversight Committee and is investigating UFOs for the Federal Secrets Task Force) on the topic of UFOs, and enable Congress to restore his clearance, so he can step into a SCIF to brief the Task Force, along with Lue Elizondo and Christopher Mellon!You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2025-03-3020 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeWhite House Drone Answer DisappointsThis week we’re bringing you updates to a bunch of long-running stories. We’ve got the latest on the Congressional UAP Task Force, as well as updates on NASA’s UAP efforts. Skywatcher is preparing their next video, Elon Musk is making some wild claims, and we’re diving into the White House’s unsatisfying official answer to the New Jersey mystery drone situation.You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2025-03-0352 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeUAP Declassification Task ForceSince the last Congressional UAP hearing, there has been growing demand for a UAP select committee, and pressure on President Trump’s administration to push for UFO disclosure. This week, we learned that Rep. Luna will head the Task Force On the Declassification of Federal Secrets, which will investigate, among other topics, the JFK files and the UAP topic, resulting in at least two further UAP hearings, and could represent a growing willingness in Congress to pursue the topic more seriously.You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime. 2025-02-171h 14It's a Very Exciting TimeJake Barber Summons UFO at Nude Hot SpringsUFO crash retrieval program whistleblower Jake Barber made some shocking claims in his first interview with Ross Coulthart. Now, they’ve released the full-length 3-hour interview, as well as interviews with his supporting witnesses, another 3-hour interview with Jesse Michels, and Skywatcher’s first video documenting their attempt to summon a UFO. Join us as we discuss the additional details revealed about Barber’s story, including his cover work, retrieval operations, his encounter with Steven Greer and Michael Herrera, as well as a strange story about a summoned UFO landing before a nude hot springs.You can find s...2025-02-081h 52It's a Very Exciting TimeJake Barber: New Whistleblower Worked for UFO Retrieval ProgramThis week Ross Coulthart introduced his new whistleblower, Jake Barber, an Air Force veteran who has come out as a whistleblower claiming to have worked in the secret UFO crash retrieval program. He shared stories of recovering exotic craft from a testing range in the desert, where he and his team were made ill by their exposure to the things they recovered. Barber says he recovered at least two non-human craft. One was egg-shaped, and there’s video of the recovery. The other made a profound psychic connection with him. He also claims the military has “psionics teams” who reques...2025-01-241h 09It's a Very Exciting TimeCybertruck Bomber Says Mystery Drones are Chinese Anti-Gravity TechMystery drone swarms in New Jersey and elsewhere are ongoing, triggering further FAA flight restrictions, snark from former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick, and claims that FBI drone detection tech is inadequate. Perhaps most surprising, however, is that the Cybertruck bomber sent an email claiming to be read into a secret UAP program, and that the drones are Chinese technology, using “gravitic” propulsion!
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2025-01-071h 07It's a Very Exciting TimeMystery Drones: Don’t Believe Your Lying Eyes, Government SaysIt’s been more than a month of nightly drone swarms over New Jersey, and the sightings have now spread to four additional military bases, as well as civilian sightings coast-to-coast. The government attempted to explain the sightings away as hobby drones and misidentified stars, and made a bizarre claim that no sightings have occurred in restricted airspace. But with Air Force bases being shut down due to drone incursions, no one finds this explanation convincing, which raises the troubling question: Why is the government lying to us about the drones?
You can find show notes and re...2024-12-231h 46It's a Very Exciting TimeMystery Drones: Don’t Believe Your Lying Eyes, Government SaysIt’s been more than a month of nightly drone swarms over New Jersey, and the sightings have now spread to four additional military bases, as well as civilian sightings coast-to-coast. The government attempted to explain the sightings away as hobby drones and misidentified stars, and made a bizarre claim that no sightings have occurred in restricted airspace. But with air force bases being shut down due to drone sightings, no one finds this explanation convincing, which raises the troubling question: Why is the government lying to us about the drones?
You can find show notes and re...2024-12-231h 47It's a Very Exciting TimeMystery Drone Swarms in New Jersey & UKLast year, mysterious drone swarms targeted Navy ships and Langley Air Force Base, nearly colliding with an F22 and causing a fighter squadron to be relocated. Despite intense investigation, their origin is still unknown. This year, the drones are back! This time they’re targeting several RAF bases in the UK as well as the entire state of New Jersey. They’ve been in the air every night for over two weeks. These drones are unusually large and quiet, and they can hover in place for hours at a time. Countermeasures are ineffective, and no one’s been able to tra...2024-12-091h 52It's a Very Exciting Time“Truly Anomalous:” AARO’s 2024 Annual UAP ReportAARO’s new director, Dr. Jon Kosloski, got his first moments in the spotlight this week, dropping the newest annual UAP report, hosting a media roundtable, and appearing before the Senate. He confirmed UAP are real, some cases are “truly anomalous,” and discussed some cases they’re investigating. He also shared a pretty unsatisfactory resolution for the 2017 GoFast video.
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-11-251h 52It's a Very Exciting TimeBombshell UAP Hearing: Exposing the TruthIn the latest Congressional UAP hearing, retired Navy Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet, former AATIP director Lue Elizondo, and journalist Michael Shellenberger testified that secret UAP crash retrieval, reverse engineering, and surveillance programs are being illegally concealed from Congress. Lawmakers were warned not to ask certain questions, AARO engaged in a disinformation effort against a witness, and whistleblowers have been harassed, threatened, and publicly discredited, all in an effort to prevent any attempts at public disclosure.
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2024-11-181h 09It's a Very Exciting TimeUS Elections and UAP Disclosure: What's Next?Hot on the heels of the US election, we’re looking ahead to consider whether the upcoming government changes will impact the push for UFO disclosure, or the November 13 UAP hearing in Congress. We also discuss persistent rumors that the James Webb Space Telescope has detected signs of life, and why it’s probably nothing to get excited about. We’ll be back with an episode soon after the hearing!
Update: Congress announced the list of witnesses for the UAP hearing shortly after we recorded. (That’s what we get for trying to record early!) Rear Admiral Tim Gall...2024-11-1038 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeDeath Threats and Dead Man’s SwitchesThis week we’re covering a selection of UFO-related news. The National Archives extended the deadline for government agencies to turn over their UAP files. Journalists George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell have received credible death threats, and have created dead man’s switches to trigger “catastrophic disclosure” if anything happens to them. The November UAP hearings in both the Senate and the House have been confirmed, and there are claims that the House hearing may center on new whistleblowers related to the Immaculate Constellation story.
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/2024-10-2854 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeImmaculate Constellation: New Whistleblower Reveals Another Pentagon UFO ProgramJournalist Michael Shellenberger broke the news of a new whistleblower who has provided a report to Congress on an illegally concealed Pentagon program called “Immaculate Constellation.” This is a parent program that is designed to “detect” and “quarantine” UFO data from the rest of the DoD. Could this lead to further disclosures during the upcoming Congressional UAP hearings?
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-10-1437 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeUpcoming UAP Hearings in CongressThis week we’re covering a grab bag of UFO news that happened while we were talking about Lue Elizondo’s book. We’ve got presidential advisor Harald Malmgren announcing that he was briefed on the UAP reverse engineering program, stories of a massive and incredibly fast USO, a bit of information about the new Director of AARO, upcoming UAP hearings in both the House and the Senate, and the latest status of the UAP Disclosure Act. Buckle up, it’s a very exciting time!
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/2024-09-3055 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeColares: When UFOs Attacked in BrazilIn Lue Elizondo’s book, he dedicates a chapter to a bizarre historical case that informed his UFO threat narrative: In 1977, in Colares, Brazil, UFOs attacked and terrorized thousands of people. The attacks were investigated, witnessed, and documented by the Brazilian Air Force. The resulting report, including photos of videos of UFOs, was covered up, until it leaked in the 90s, culminating with the death of a whistleblower.
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-09-231h 11It's a Very Exciting TimeHow Lue Elizondo Saved AATIPEver since Lue Elizondo emerged as a whistleblower in the New York Times in 2017, the Pentagon has constantly changed their story about him. First they acknowledged he ran the UFO program, then they said it wasn’t a UFO program and Lue wasn’t involved. Lue claims it’s retaliation for going public, and filed an Inspector General complaint. Let’s get to the bottom of what Lue did in AAWSAP/AATIP, how he became the director of a reduced version of AATIP, and how he came to leave the Pentagon in protest.
You can find show notes an...2024-09-021h 24It's a Very Exciting TimeImminent: Lue Elizondo and the Pentagon’s Secret UFO ProgramLue Elizondo’s new book: Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs is finally out, and it’s jam-packed with fascinating information. Broadly speaking, Lue confirms David Grusch’s allegations about an illegally hidden UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program, but he also gets into the back story about how AATIP split from AAWSAP under his direction, how he left the Pentagon for TTSA, and how he and Chris Mellon have worked with Congress to advance disclosure. He also discusses his experience training as a remote viewer for Project Stargate, encountering orbs in his own home, how UFOs work...2024-08-241h 33It's a Very Exciting Time“Major things happening” - Matthew PinesMatthew Pines, the Director of Intelligence at SentinelOne, spoke recently about the UAP Disclosure Act being resubmitted for the NDAA, and the “major things” that are coming this summer to support it, including Lue Elizondo’s book, two documentaries with new people backing David Grusch’s claims, and “someone everyone would recognize.”
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-08-1941 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeRemote Viewing: The CIA’s Secret Psychic Spy ProgramBack in 1995 the CIA declassified a 20-year long secret spy program that used psychics! What was this program? Why was it declassified? Did it work? Why are we talking about this on a UFO podcast? We’ll dive into the answers to all those questions in this exciting episode!
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-08-051h 14It's a Very Exciting Time“We are in contact with NHI:” Tim GallaudetToday we’re talking about the latest high-profile figure to call for public disclosure of contact with a non-human intelligence, retired US Navy Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet. After serving as administrator of NOAA, he’s now on the boards of the SOL Foundation and Americans for Safe Aerospace, and is publicly advocating for further investigation into USO and increased undersea exploration.
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-07-2249 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeUFO Amendments in the 2025 NDAAThis week we’re checking in with Congress. Understandably, it seems the UAP issue is taking a back seat in the run up to the election, but we’ve still got a bit of movement on two fronts. First, there are several UAP amendments being considered for the 2025 NDAA, including improved whistleblower protections and possibly reintroducing the full UAP disclosure act. We’ll also look into when and if we might get an additional public UAP hearing from the Senate or perhaps the House Oversight Committee.
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or suppo...2024-07-081h 08It's a Very Exciting TimeWhich US Presidents Know About UFOs?Did you know that two different presidents have reported UFO sightings? Or that one president campaigned with a promise to open the UFO files? Find out which president is rumored to have attended a meeting with extraterrestrials at an air force base, and which president is reportedly afraid that he’ll be killed if he speaks publicly about UAP.
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-06-241h 22It's a Very Exciting TimeElizondo Threatened, Kirkpatrick Caught LyingWe open up by sharing a story from two players on the Las Vegas Raiders who say the entire team witnessed a UFO that did not appear on radar while flying home from a game. Then we talk about Lue Elizondo revealing that he and other whistleblowers have received threats, and declares that he is not suicidal. Finally, we get into a juicy bit of drama where Brandon Fugal, the owner of Skinwalker Ranch, claims that Sean Kirkpatrick was in a briefing he delivered to Congress in 2018, and that Kirkpatrick asserted the truth of the UFO phenomenon. Kirkpatrick denied...2024-06-101h 14It's a Very Exciting Time“Zero Doubt:” Karl Nell speaks about Non-Human Intelligence on EarthThe SALT conference invited Karl Nell to speak to an audience of high-powered investors about non-human intelligence on Earth, which Nell said he has “zero doubt” is happening. He also discussed what disclosure might look like, why the government might be reluctant to disclose, and why they should do it anyway, as well as explaining why “catastrophic disclosure” could lead to societal collapse!
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-05-2752 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeKingman, AZ UFO Crash Retrieval Confirmation?A bit of a wild ride in this episode, all kicked off by Chris Mellon sharing a Signal conversation with an unnamed senior government official who claimed to be getting access to the crash retrieval program, including a “recovered UAP that landed in Kingman, AZ in the 50s.” The Kingman crash is a legendary and controversial story, so we’re getting into it today by discussing three witnesses of varying credibility, including a engineer who was bussed out to the crash site to estimate the crash velocity, a mechanical engineer who claims to have worked on flight simulators for human...2024-05-131h 28It's a Very Exciting TimeWhy Grusch Wouldn’t Talk to AAROIt’s been a busy week! John Oliver dedicated an episode of Last Week Tonight to UFOs and government coverups. Chris Mellon released a scathing review of AARO’s historical UAP report. And a FOIA request documented AARO’s attempts to get David Grusch to testify, their failures to address his security concerns, and includes Kirkpatrick’s private Signal messages, where he badgers Mellon and is surprised by Marco Rubio’s claims about whistleblowers.
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-04-291h 06It's a Very Exciting TimeDavid Grusch: 1933 UFO Crash Retrieval in ItalyAll of David Grusch’s whistleblower claims were shocking, but none more than that the first UFO crash retrieval was in Magenta, Italy in 1933, and that Pope Pius XXII told the Americans about it at the end of the fascist regime. We’re looking into leaked documents that support this claim, and dive a little deeper into what both David Grusch and Lue Elizondo say about this case that predates Roswell by almost 15 years!
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-04-1557 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeMysterious Drones Swarm Navy Ships and Air Force BasesIn this episode we cover a pile of recent UFO news. Ross Coulthart says Congress smells bullshit from the AARO historical report. Rep. Burlison and the UAP Caucus formally requested a UAP select committee. The Joint Chiefs released their new UAP reporting guidelines, which seems to contradict AARO’s finding that there’s no evidence of nonhuman craft. Oh, and multiple Navy ships and Air Force bases have been swarmed by mysterious drones. It’s a very exciting time!
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-04-011h 18It's a Very Exciting TimeIs AARO’s Historical Report a Coverup?After over a year of work, AARO has released the first volume of their report on the US government’s historical UAP investigations, and surprise, they found there is no evidence of extraterrestrial activity or of a reverse-engineering program. However, it’s worth putting this report in context of the previous 80 years of the US government saying publicly that there’s nothing to the UFO phenomenon, while taking it very seriously behind closed doors. In addition to that, the report is full of errors, bad citations, and the ODNI won’t endorse it. So it’s fair to ask: Is this re...2024-03-181h 02It's a Very Exciting TimeGarry Nolan, Chris Mellon, Karl Nell, and more at the SOL Foundation SymposiumThe SOL Foundation held their inaugural UAP symposium back in November, and the videos are finally live. The talks are great, and in this episode, we discuss four of them: Garry Nolan tells what he learned from UAP materials he’s studied. Chris Mellon discusses the political consequences of disclosure. Kevin Knuth examines the physics of UFOs. And Karl Nell outlines a potential plan for controlled disclosure that avoids the negative consequences of catastrophic disclosure. It’s a busy episode, buckle up!
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExciti2024-03-041h 48It's a Very Exciting TimeDODIG: Lack of UAP Plan May Pose a ThreatIt’s been a busy few weeks! There were five UFO-related commercials at the Superbowl. The SOL Foundation dropped the videos from their UAP conference. Congress had a minor freakout directly after a UAP briefing by Lue Elizondo. The DODIG found that the DOD’s lack of a coordinated UAP plan leaves the US at risk. And Sean Kirkpatrick’s article drew a lot of pushback, questions about whether he followed the DOPSR process, and raising concerns that he may be a disinformation agent.
You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.co2024-02-191h 06It's a Very Exciting TimeWhat We Learned from Alien InterviewsWe’ve got a fun story today, one that’s reminiscent of the “EBO scientist” story we discussed a few months ago. Like that person, this Redditor claims to have been involved in a secret government research project. But where the EBO scientist was studying the biology of alien corpses, this person was helping to prepare a report summarizing what the government knows about alien society and motivations based on interviews with recovered UFO occupants!You can find show notes and references at our website, VeryExcitingTime.com, or support us at patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime.2024-02-051h 18It's a Very Exciting TimeDavid Grusch Was In Secret Program to Track UAPRecently the House Oversight Committee got a classified briefing from the ICIG, which gave them some new information, including locations to investigate. Whistleblower David Grusch gave a private presentation where he said he was part of a secret program to track UAP, and that a US adversary may be trying to force disclosure. Finally, former AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick wrote an article that tries to dismiss Grusch’s claims by teasing the upcoming historical report AARO will release. Hint: it says AARO has found no evidence of extraterrestrials or secret programs. Travis Taylor is unimpressed with Kirkpatrick’s “scientific” approach...2024-01-2200 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeVarginha: The Roswell of Brazilin 1996, a UFO crashed outside the city of Varginha, Brazil. Several people reported seeing short beings with large red eyes, oily skin, and a strong smell of sulfur. The military cordoned off parts of the town, and captured two of the creatures. Witnesses were intimidated by men in dark suits. A police officer died of mysterious causes after handling one of the creatures. Then the US Air Force takes all the recovered crash debris and bodies. The Brazilian military denied everything, but the event got a lot of attention and is commonly called “the Roswell of Brazil.”You can...2024-01-161h 26It's a Very Exciting TimeDavid Grusch Has Firsthand KnowledgeWe’re opening the show with a bit of a bummer, because Schumer’s UAP disclosure amendment in the NDAA failed. Some UAP language remains, but it’s been severely watered down to the point of being perhaps useless, but Lue Elizondo reassures us that there’s a plan B in the works. Ross Coulthart interviewed Retired Navy Admiral Tim Gallaudet, who says plainly that we’re in contact with a non-human intelligence. And lastly, David Grusch dropped some big news: He’s just gained security approval to reveal that he has firsthand knowledge from being read into a UAP program...2023-12-1842 minIt's a Very Exciting Time“Catastrophic” UFO DisclosureIn this episode we discuss the ongoing efforts in Congress to reconcile the NDAA, where top Republicans are fighting to water down Senator Schumer’s UAP Disclosure Amendment, especially the clause that gives the government eminent domain powers to claim any UFOs being held by private aerospace companies. We also look at why everyone’s using the phrase “catastrophic disclosure,” which comes from a leaked slide by retired Army Colonel Karl Nell, which outlines a gradual ten-year disclosure plan that would ease the public into accepting the reality of UAP.
You can find show notes and referenc...2023-12-041h 14It's a Very Exciting TimeKirkpatrick Retires, Speculative History of UFO Reverse EngineeringIn this episode we cover some QuickHits of news, including a Congressional bill to restore Grusch’s security clearance, the HOC getting to read Grusch’s DOD IG complaint, AARO adding a reporting form to their website (that’s only for military and won’t accept classified info), and Dr Sean Kirkpatrick is retiring in December. Then we dive into a speculative history of the UFO reverse engineering program, as imagined by an aerospace engineer, which explores how a Manhattan Project-style program could have ended up in the hands of private aerospace companies, and how that might be tied to the F...2023-11-131h 42It's a Very Exciting Time“Nothing New. Pointless.” AARO’s 2023 UAP Report and Congress gets DODIG in a SCIFAARO released the 2023 UAP report, which feels like a student turning in a last-minute term paper without having done any research. It only covers eight months, and doesn’t mention Grusch or any other big UFO news. Meanwhile, the House Oversight Committee got the DOD Inspector General into a SCIF, where he told them absolutely nothing. Oh, and the former director of a Pentagon UFO program released a new book where he says the US gained access to the inside of a UAP with no engine or way to fly, but won’t give any more details. And finally, this...2023-11-011h 28It's a Very Exciting TimeGrusch & Elizondo Predict a “Wild” 2024In this episode, former UAP program director Lue Elizondo and UAP whistleblower David Grusch both predict that 2024 will be “wild in a good way.” Then we discuss the new Grusch interviews that dropped, which go into a bit more detail on why the government approved him talking about this stuff at all, the culture of secrecy, and how his autism worked in his favor during his investigation. And finally, the new Netflix documentary was quite good. It covers four different mass UFO eyewitness events, including the Ariel School incident and UFO sightings over Fukushima.
You can find show...2023-10-171h 26It's a Very Exciting TimeNASA Releases UAP Report; Senate Pressures AARO; 30+ More Whistleblowers!It’s been a busy few weeks! We briefly touch on the Alien Mummy story in Mexico, report on some House UFO gossip, including another upcoming UAP hearing. We look at reports that multiple senators have been pressuring AARO to do a better job protecting whistleblowers, and a new article claiming more than 30 additional whistleblowers have come forward to the ICIG directly. And lastly, we discuss the report released by NASA’s independent UAP study team, which manages to make a lot of solid recommendations about NASA’s role in gathering UAP data moving forward, while also being dismissive and co...2023-10-021h 29It's a Very Exciting TimeAARO’s New Boss Launches Website, Avi Loeb Finds Interstellar MaterialWe’re back with news from around the UAP community. First, Chuck’s here to talk about Avi Loeb’s claim to have recovered fragments of an interstellar object. Then we’ve got a quick update on more whistleblower activity. And finally, we’ve got some news about AARO, who recently moved in the org chart to report directly to Deputy Defense Secretary Hicks, who knocked some heads together and finally got their website launches (though it still has no contact info). Also, we discuss some reports that AARO themselves may be in possession of “anomalous materials!”
2023-09-111h 25It's a Very Exciting TimeDainty DoD is Concerned UAP Hearings Have Sullied Its ReputationAlthough Congress is still on break for another couple weeks, we’re back with a bit of news. Reps. Burchett and Luna are still pushing to get a SCIF to hear Grusch’s classified testimony, but claim the DOD is stonewalling them. Ross Coulthart says the Pentagon and Intel Community are applying pressure to Congress to drop the UAP thing, and suddenly Rep. Turner says there will be no more UAP hearings in the House Oversight Committee to protect the reputation of the DOD. Plus, White House national security spokesman John Kirby dodges an opportunity to deny Grusch’s claims...2023-08-2845 minIt's a Very Exciting TimeGrusch Health Records Leaked; Scientist claims ET body programThis week we’re covering two topics. Firstly, UAP whistleblower David Grusch’s past struggles with PTSD and suicide are published, sparking claims that the intelligence community is attempting to discredit Grusch and intimidate other witnesses. Then, we get weird, discussing a Reddit post where a molecular biologist claims to have worked in a program studying the genetics of alien bodies for a defense contractor. The details are fascinating, and there’s some indications that the scientist may be legit. Chuck and I are especially fascinated by his claims about the alien’s religion, belief in a “soul field.”
2023-08-141h 31It's a Very Exciting TimeUAP Hearing Aftermath: Kirkpatrick attacks, Pentagon evades, and Lockheed locks.In this week’s exciting episode, we cover the aftermath of last week’s explosive UAP hearing, including Chris Mellon’s claims that AARO is withholding satellite imagery of UAP from Congress, the fallout and possible legal consequences of Dr. Kirkpatrick’s weird LinkedIn post, continued evasion from the Pentagon, and the major aerospace companies going into press lockdown following whistleblower allegations that they’re involved in the reverse engineering program.
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Chris Mellon: “AARO has not shared satellite images with Congress”2023-08-081h 06It's a Very Exciting TimeAlien Bodies!? Whistleblower Grusch and Navy Pilots in House UAP HearingThe House Oversight Committee’s UAP Hearing just happened, and it was remarkable! Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves recounted their historic UFO encounters, and intelligence community whistleblower David Grusch reiterated his claims that the government has illegally concealed a UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program from Congress. Though these claims have been heard before, it was notable that they testified under oath to an engaged and bipartisan group of representatives. There was no joking, no attempts to undermine the claims being made, and no political maneuvering. The tone was remarkably serious, and the clear impression is th...2023-07-291h 46It's a Very Exciting TimeGrusch, Fravor, and Graves to testify at House UAP HearingThey’ve announced the witnesses for the House Oversight Committee’s UAP hearing, including whistleblower David Grusch as well as Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves. Several Congresspeople are hopping mad about being denied access to videos and whistleblowers during a visit to Elgin Air Force Base, and they’re making it clear that the upcoming hearing is a direct effort by Congress to confront ongoing Pentagon interference in their UFO investigation. It’s clear Congress knows more than they’re saying… Could it be the reason they’re pushing so hard is because they already have smoking gun evidence?2023-07-251h 07It's a Very Exciting Time22. The UAP Disclosure Act of 2023Huge news this week as Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer introduces the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023! This is a bipartisan NDAA amendment that would introduce a JFK-style UAP record review board who would review all government records with the intent to release all UAP items within 25 years. Huge! We talk about the implications of this, why it matters, and what the limitations might be. We also discuss the upcoming House UAP hearing, which has been scheduled for July 26, and the increasing willingness of Congress to take the topic seriously. Buckle up!
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...2023-07-161h 18It's a Very Exciting Time21. “A military complex accountable to no one,” Rubio & Coulthart on UAP Whistleblower GruschChuck is out sick, but we’ve got a special cohost for today: Scott’s wife, Annie! We’re going to be discussing the continuing news of impending UAP hearings in both the House and the Senate, possibly this month! We have additional comments from Marco Rubios’ NewsNation interview, discussing whistleblower concerns that speaking out is punishable by death, and the specter of an unaccountable UAP complex. And journalist Ross Coulthart appeared on all the podcasts, and left some juicy bits of information for us, including the possibility that one of the recovered craft was too large to move, and they...2023-07-1058 minIt's a Very Exciting Time20. Congress is taking UAP whistleblower Grusch’s claims seriouslyChuck is still on vacation, but the UFO news just keeps coming hot and heavy, so Scott’s back with another solo episode to keep you up-to-date. We’ve got several stories this week, including an alleged secret Canadian UAP reverse engineering program and continued denials from the Pentagon. But the biggest story is that Congress is taking the claims of whistleblower David Grusch very seriously. We’ve got quotes from multiple Congresspeople as well as new UAP provisions written into the upcoming Intelligence Community Authorization Act that will remove funding from UAP programs that haven’t reported to Congress...2023-06-2942 minIt's a Very Exciting Time19. David Grusch Week 2: The Vatican, UFO “agreements,” and coverups.Scott's coming at you solo with the latest updates on UFO Whistleblower David Grusch's story. This week we're covering his video interview with Ross Coulthart, where among other revelations he shared that the Vatican helped the US recover a crashed UFO from Italy in 1945, and that the US government possibly has "agreements" with non-human intelligences. Not to mention running a decades-long coverup and disinformation operation against US citizens. We also cover the latest Congressional reactions to Grusch's story, as well as Michael Shellenberger's story with additional sources confirming Grusch's claims.
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NewsNation: We are not...2023-06-1833 minIt's a Very Exciting Time18. “Urgent and Credible” - Whistleblower David GruschIt's happening! Whistleblower David Grusch, a USAF veteran and senior intelligence officer has provided information to Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General about illegal covert programs that possess retrieved non-human craft. This is a wild story, and we're going to talk about what he's claiming, why it's credible, how he differs from previous stories like Bob Lazar, and how the community is reacting. There's more to come, too, with additional interviews dropping shortly. If this is what it looks like, then this could be the start of Disclosure with a capital D!
References:2023-06-121h 47It's a Very Exciting Time17. NASA’s UAP Team Needs More DataIn this episode, we're talking about the NASA UAP Study Panel, who recently held their first public briefing ahead of their expected report in July. During the briefing, they questioned Dr Kirkpatrick from AARO, and agreed on the need for more and better quality data on UAP. We'll also talk about Dr Avi Loeb of Harvard, whose Galileo Project is moving forward with public data collection and announced they have plans to set up five additional observatories. And last but very much not least, we'll hear from Chris #UFODaddy Mellon, who says that if the US Government holds UFO...2023-06-051h 17It's a Very Exciting Time16. Dr. Garry NolanDr. Garry Nolan, a well-respected Standard immunologist, was interviewed recently at a financial conference about UFOs. He said some fascinating things about UAP, the government's response, what they might be, and how to destigmatize the topic to encourage scientists to take it seriously. He also mentioned that a recent whistleblower testimony "created quite a hornet's nest in Washington!" We'll talk about Garry's background, and why we find him credible.
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Rep. Burchett on upcoming House UAP hearings
Rep. Luna’s office says hearing will be public
SALT conference vi...2023-05-2447 minIt's a Very Exciting Time15. Is AARO Being Set Up to Fail? #UFOMamaBearWe're back is a bit of followup on the recent UAP hearing. In particular a few red flags have been raised that seem to indicate that the DOD is, at best, dragging their feet, and at worst, actively working to sabotage AARO, the UFO office set up at the behest of Congress. In addition to that, we're hearing increasingly specific information about whistleblowers testifying to both AARO and Congress, which raises the question of why Dr. Kirkpatrick said there's no credible evidence. Something doesn't add up here, and it feels like pressure is building.
...2023-05-081h 02It's a Very Exciting Time14. Congress Gets Mad: The April 2023 UAP Hearing!For the last several weeks, rumors have been swirling that Congress was upset at the DoD over perceived foot-dragging on the topic of UAP. Sen. Gillibrand was demanding answers about a funding shortfall for the new AARO office, and many Congresspeople seemed frustrated with the lack of clarity from the military around the spy balloon shoot-downs. So when it was announced that a new public UAP hearing would be held soon, the community went wild. Speculation about what would come up in the hearing ranged from persistent rumors of whistleblower testimony about crash retrievals and reverse engineering programs all...2023-04-241h 28It's a Very Exciting Time13. Are UFOs Time Travelers?Buckle up, because we're getting into the weird today! Recently, increasing reports have been emerging from US intelligence and government sources that UFOs may not be aliens, but our own descendants from the far future traveling back in time to avert an impending catastrophe. It's a wild idea, but there's a bit more substance to it than you might think!
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Black Vault: USAF Says All Photos / Videos of 2023 Balloon Shootdowns Classified
Ross Coulthart: Why the secrecy?
Politico: What the Biden administration isn’t telling Congress about spy ba...2023-03-271h 21It's a Very Exciting Time12. Anjali: retired intelligence officer claims alien base in Mojave DesertIn March of 2021, I saw a post in r/aliens on Reddit by the title “Retired Defense Intelligence Officer with a CE5 Experience to Share.” It got a lot of attention with a great story and some pretty phenomenal claims. The author, a woman named Anjali, who is a former defense intelligence officer, claims to have met a man in 2018 who excavated a tunnel to find an alien base in a mountain on his land in the Mojave Desert. He took her there, and she met beings from a council overseeing life on earth. They told her that she need...2023-03-121h 28It's a Very Exciting Time11. Is the Air Force lying to President Biden?Y'all, it has been a *wild* two weeks since the US shot down three UFOs that turned out to be hobby balloons. The Pentagon is being weird about the balloons, the Senate is being weird about UAP, some sources claim the Navy told Biden that the Air Force is lying to him about UAP, and possibly as a result, Biden created his own independent UAP task force. Oh, and also, the Obama Library has thousands of pages of records about UAP? What is happening?
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Daily Mail: Pentagon's UFO office had only THREE staffers until recent w...2023-02-261h 04It's a Very Exciting Time10. Chinese spy balloon, UFOs, and the 2001 Disclosure Project press conferenceWe've got a jam-packed episode for you today. In addition to our planned topic, we open by discussing the news that the US has shot down a Chinese spy balloon, as well as two other UFOs! After discussing why they're likely balloons, but that's still interesting for the UFO community, we get to the main topic:
The 2001 Disclosure Project press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. At this conference, Dr Steven Greer (who has become a controversial figure in the UFO community) brought over 20 military, intelligence, and government witnesses together to testify to what...2023-02-131h 27It's a Very Exciting Time09. Betty & Barney HillThis week we're talking about one of the foundational cases in the world of ufology: Betty and Barney Hill, who had an unusual encounter with a UFO while driving through the mountains late at night in 1961. They arrived home late, unable to account for 2-3 hours of time during their drive. They later recovered memories of being taken aboard the craft by aliens who conducted medical tests. It's a foundational story that introduced the world to some common elements of abduction stories including missing time and grey aliens. It's also got lots of room to be skeptical, and we're...2023-01-301h 15It's a Very Exciting Time08. The 2022 UAP Report is Here! #UFODaddyIt's finally here! We've been waiting for the 2022 annual UAP report since halloween. We'll talk about what the report says, ask some questions about what it means, and dig into the community reaction to it. Let's go!
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2022 Annual Report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
Reddit: "They took 8 pages to say: You asked us to keep track of UAPs. We did that…"
Reddit: "We have only the best people reporting plastic bags maneuvering at high rates of speed."
Post Disclosure World: "I'd argue the US government wants it to go away. But know it can't."
Stand For Be...2023-01-151h 10It's a Very Exciting Time07. USS Nimitz EncounterIn 2004, the USS Nimitz carrier group tracked hundreds of anomalous radar signals while preparing for a training exercise. Commander David Fravor, flying an F/A-18 Super Hornet, was dispatched to investigate one signal and encountered an unusual flying craft he described as the "tic-tac." This incident was discussed in the 2017 New York Times coverage of the Pentagon's UAP office, including the now-famous "FLIR" video. Today we're going to discuss the incident in detail, and why it marks a turning point in the UFO conversation.
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Detailed Official Report On Harrowing Encounter Between F/A-18s and...2023-01-091h 15It's a Very Exciting Time06. Where is the 2022 UAP Report?The 2022 UAP Report was due on October 31. It's December now, so where is it? Today we'll dive into what we know about the delay, and whether there are dueling factions in the US government on the topic of UFOs. But the good news is that the 2023 NDAA just passed, and it includes several really exciting additions regarding UAP, including protection for whistleblowers!
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10/28 — NYT: Many military UFO reports are just foreign spying or airborne trash
10/31 — Daily Mail: Only half of UFO sightings can be explained
10/31 — Exoacademian: "vast majority of hits in baseball are not home runs" tweet
...2022-12-121h 10It's a Very Exciting Time05. Recommendations for UFO books, videos, etcChuck's out sick this week, so I've got a mini-episode for you. If you've enjoyed the topic so far, you might be interested in going a bit further. If so, here are some books, TV series, documentaries, and podcasts that I'd recommend.
Books
In Plain Sight: An investigation into UFOs and impossible science by Ross Coulthart, 2021 — Came out just before 2021 UAP report, feels like a good summary
UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On the Record by Leslie Kean, 2010 — Covers nuts-and-bolts credible witnesses
The Believer: Alien Encounters, Hard Science, and the Passion of John Mack by Ra...2022-11-2720 minIt's a Very Exciting Time04. Bob LazarBob Lazar is arguably the most controversial figure in the world of UFOs. In a nutshell, Bob is a whistleblower who came out in 1988 with claims that he worked in a reverse engineering program for recovered alien craft that are kept at Area 51. Today we're going to get into it: Who is Bob, what does he claim, why did he come forward, and what are the points that make him more or less credible. Because if anything Bob claims is true? …It's a very exciting time!
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Bob Lazar’s site
Jeremy Corbell documentary
Joe Rogan inte...2022-11-131h 09It's a Very Exciting Time03. The Admiral Wilson MemoThe Admiral Wilson Memo — aka, The Wilson-Davis Notes, The Core Secrets Memo, etc — is a document that records an alleged conversation between astrophysicist Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Wilson, the recently retired director of the DIA. They discuss Wilson's attempts to locate a secret UFO program in the military, which he found, and was denied access to. The document is controversial to say the least, but the story is fascinating, and if it's true, reveals the existing of a secret crash retrieval and reverse engineering program!
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Complete Summary of Wilson Davis Memo
‘UFO leak of the cen...2022-11-011h 07It's a Very Exciting Time02. Tom DeLongeWe're talking about how all the big UFO news we discussed in our last episode — from the 2017 New York Times article to congressional hearings — can be traced back to Tom Delonge. Yes, that Tom DeLonge. The lead singer of Blink 182. Buckle up, this one's a wild ride.
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Politico: How Harry Reid, a Terrorist Interrogator and the Singer From Blink-182 Took UFOs Mainstream
UFO Rabbit Hole: Mr. DeLonge Goes to Washington, part 1
UFO Rabbit Hole: Mr. DeLonge Goes to Washington, part 2
That UFO Podcast: Tom DeLonge Profile, part 1
That UFO Podcast: Tom DeLonge Profile, part 2
2022-10-3158 minIt's a Very Exciting Time01. Why are we recording a podcast about UFOs?"Really? You wanna be the UFO guy?" Yeah, actually, I do! Because I think most people don't understand that since 2017 there has been a rapid increase in astonishing information about UFOs. From the 2017 New York Times article disclosing the existence of a secret Pentagon UFO program, to the release of confirmed Navy videos of UFOs, to Congress demanding an annual report about what the military knows about UFOs, to the recent proposal to grant immunity to UFO program whistleblowers — there's been a LOT!
When I was growing up, UFOs were treated as a joke. News reports would in...2022-10-301h 14It's a Very Exciting TimeBonus: Chuck and Scott get their giggles outA delight for the senses!2022-10-2900 min