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Always Off Brand"What is Amazon Doing With Agentic AI Hash Out Session?" with Scot Wingo & Danny SilvermanSo Scotty O keeps seeing a chart that has a solar system of all the current players with OpenAI and all the rest of the AI players. This wonderful CBInsights chart has Amazon up alone in the corner. So we get 2 of the leading voices in Agentic and Amazon on the show, Scott Wingo, Founder CEO of RefiBuy, Host of Retaigentic podcast and newsletter. Then bring in the Amazon veteran who writes one of the best ecommerce summary newsletter, Weekly Ecommerce Review and is Founder of Silverstream Consulting, Danny Silverman. First Scot Wingo shows us breaking news of how...
2025-11-0657 min
The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsEP331 - E.L.F. Beauty CDO, Ekta ChopraEP331 - E.L.F. Beauty CDO, Ekta Chopra http://jasonandscot.com 0:42 Welcome to the Jason and Scott Show 0:57 Live from Las Vegas 1:09 Guest Introduction: Ekta Chopra 1:51 The Best Panel Ever 3:06 Ekta's Journey to Elf Beauty 4:26 Understanding Elf Beauty 6:28 From Cosmetics to Multi-Channel 8:02 AI in Retail: The Future 14:22 Maintaining Company Culture 22:30 The Impact of TikTok Shop 25:31 Attribution in a Multi-Channel World 29:19 Implementing AI at Elf 34:52 The Future of AI and Retail 40:53 Balancing AI with Humanity 46:21 The Importance of Loyalty Programs 48:04 Conclusion and Farewell Welcome to a special live edition of the Jason & Scot...
2025-10-1548 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s5- Scott Talks Diversity in the Deconstruction WorldI'm kinda hoping hardly anyone listens to this wide-ranging episode about diversity, or lack thereof, in the deconstruction world. The solution is simple. More BIPOC folks need to create content. I do criticize some creators, but I mostly want to celebrate you, the Chapel Probation listener. The criticisms herein are not about you. If you listen to BIPOC voices, you're doing good. Or you're building towards doing good. Thank you.Chapel Probation is part of the Dauntless Media CollectiveJoin the Dauntless Media Discord for more conversation with all the podcast communities.Scott's book, Asian-American-Apostate- Losing Religion and Finding Myself at an Evangelical University is available now!Music by Scott Okamoto, Jenyi...
2025-10-1431 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s5- Scott talks life after Kirk and losing friends and familyPeople are asking how their friends and family could possibly like a person like Charlie Kirk. Scott talks about the reasons for this bending the knee to a horrible human being by otherwise "nice" or "good" people. And he talks about what pushing back looks like in your inner circles. There is a price to pay, for sure. But it's worth it if you have community support. Chapel Probation is part of the Dauntless Media CollectiveJoin the Dauntless Media Discord for more conversation with all the podcast communities.Scott's book, Asian-American-Apostate- Losing Religion and Finding Myself at an Evangelical University is available now!Music by Scott Okamoto, Jenyi, Azeem Khan, and ...
2025-09-1636 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s5- Greg Corricello- IVCF Worship and Bible Study Leading to Proud ACE LivingScott met Greg Corricello while at UC San Diego as Inter-Varsity Christian Fellowship (IVCF) leaders. They played on the worship team together and shared a large, supportive community of christians on "secular," science-heavy campus. We saw ourselves as being on the front lines of radical christian living. But Greg went on to gradually deconstruct his faith, learning to accept himself as an asexual man. Being involved with a christian college org like IVCF, in many ways, was more intense than attending a christian school. That's a christian flex right there.Chapel Probation is part of the Dauntless Media CollectiveJoin...
2025-08-261h 11
Best Ever PodcastBuilding Startups, Scaling Yourself, with Scot WingoWhat if success in business didn’t require burning out, but instead came from building intentionally, listening deeply, and surrounding yourself with people who make you better? In this episode, Scott talks with serial entrepreneur and investor Scot Wingo: founder of five companies, three-time successful exit, and driving force behind the Triangle Tweener Fund. From growing up with a mainframe computer in his living room to leading coast-to-coast operations, Scot shares how curiosity, grit, and systems thinking have shaped his journey. He opens up about scaling from startup to $80M+, building teams of “go-to” people, and creating a personal operat...
2025-08-211h 03
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s5- Scott Explains Why He'll Never Be A Christian AgainThe Deconstruction world is dominated by progressive Christians, and while that's all well and good, I do not understand it. Maybe it's because I'm Japanese and could never imagine pushing a definition of christianity on the world. To be sure, I got tired of trying to define my faith, my identity, and my community while I was a christian. But the good news, well...my good news is that I want to build a better world with progressive christians, even if I do not understand their need or desire to remain christian. Who cares what I understand or believe...
2025-08-1236 min
The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsEP329 - Amazon Q2 2025 ResultsEP329 - Amazon Q2 2025 Results 0:38 Welcome to the Jason and Scott Show 12:57 Amazon's Mixed Earnings Report 18:07 The Impact of AWS on Retail 21:18 AWS Performance and AI Concerns 28:55 Amazon's Advertising Strategy 33:33 Amazon's Relationship with Google 35:24 The Future of AI Investments 39:44 User Experience and Advertising 42:42 Economic Uncertainty and Consumer Behavior Welcome back to the Jason & Scot Show! In episode 329, recorded on August 1st, 2025, we dive into the highly anticipated Amazon Q2 earnings report alongside other critical tech giants' earnings results. Your hosts, Jason Goldberg (the retail geek) and Scott Wingo, bring their expert insights and analysis of...
2025-08-0143 min
Retailgentic: Agentic Commerce meets Retail and BrandsComet in Action: The Future of AI Shopping Agents | Retailgenic Live DemoMissed the Retailgenic livestream? We’ve got you covered. In this special replay, Scott Wingo walks you through the rise of agentic browsers, gives a full demo of Perplexity’s new browser Comet, and explores how tools like Comet are transforming shopping as we know it. From multi-tab research to automatic cart additions and product comparisons, this is your front-row seat to the next generation of AI-driven commerce.Highlights include:What makes agentic browsing different from traditional searchHow Comet leverages your local context to automate tasksA live showdown of Comet vs. Amazon, Target, and WalmartA surprise appe...
2025-07-2442 min
Retailgentic: Agentic Commerce meets Retail and BrandsGenerous: The AI Gifting Assistant Changing How We Shop | Kyle Montgomery, CEO @ GenerousKyle Montgomery, founder of Generous, joins Retailgenic to talk about building an AI-powered gifting agent that actually feels human. From his background in e-commerce to the "20 nieces and nephews" moment that sparked his startup journey, Kyle unpacks what it takes to build an agentic marketplace and why gifting is the perfect place to start.Sign up for the waitlist: https://meetgenerous.comFollow Kyle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyleamontgomery/⏱️ Key Timestamps:Timestamps:00:00 – Hands on the wheel: what autonomy in gifting looks like02:05 – Meet Kyle Montgomery, founder of Generous04:00 – Kyle’s bac...
2025-07-1734 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s5- Rick Pidcock- BJU to Empathy and FatherhoodWe are back at Bob Jones University, or BJU, with Rick Pidcock. Rick is a writer with Baptist News Global, and he has come a long way from those bizarre, high-control days of BJU. He tells his story of finding his way to being an empathetic human being in stark contrast with the uncaring theobro culture of BJU and how he became a stay-at-home dad, like Scott. And we finish with a last look at the deconstruction world, namely the White men who become influencer/pastors. Lots of great conversation.Chapel Probation is part of the Dauntless Media CollectiveJ...
2025-05-271h 25Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s5- Scott's Periodic Check-in: Things Are Not OKAs someone who was born into a family that got completely fucked by this country, I have some thoughts about the current situation. My family lost everything and had no due process before being incarcerated in concentration camps simply for being Japanese American. No one in my family takes freedom for granted because of this, and no one assumes this country has our best interests in mind ever. So for us, seeing what is happening, we do not hold out hope for the best outcome. For those of you who do not hail from societal and government tyranny, it...
2025-05-0620 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s5- Mary B Safrit: Young Life Evangelical to Found FamilyWelcome to the first full episode of Season 5! We kick things off with Mary B Safrit, a writer and podcaster who actually interviewed Scott a few weeks ago on her podcast, Found Family. Mary B grew up in a mix of christian traditions and went to a normal college where she worked with Young Life. This solidified her evangelical identity at the time, but she went on to come out as bisexual while still remaining a progressive christian. But fear not. She has done the work, decolonizing from patriarchy and White christian nationalism, and she is awesome to talk...
2025-04-221h 12
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s5- Scott Talks About "Community" in the Deconstruction WorldWhat is Chapel Probation today? Who knows? Not me. But I'm going to keep going to give voice to people who are not ok with the state of things. Christians are to blame for where we are today, and our stories can help lead us out of this mess. That said, I wanted to also address what I think "community" is or should be. I give some thoughts on the TNE mess and the state of the deconstruction world. Mostly I want to shout out all of you who listen here. Big thank you. More to come.
2025-04-1532 min
The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsEP324 - Amazon Q4 EarningsEP324 - Amazon Q4 Earnings In this episode we do a deep dive into Amazon Q4 and Full Year 2024 results. Amazon had an overall strong quarter with record profits from their retail business unit. Amazon GMV grew 11% in 2024 vs. 2023, almost three times as fast as the retail industyr as a whole. Amazon's North American GMV also nearly matched Walmart's in 2024 (Walmart reports it's Q4 results next week). We also cover the impacts and implicates of the de minimus ban in the US (which was lifted after only 4 days).
2025-02-1252 min
Chapel ProbationThe Horny Chapel- I Kissed Dating Goodbye: Worst Book Ever Written?We're about 25 years late to this and about 7 years past Japanese American Joshua Harris denouncing his shitty book, but here we are. After Scott's Substack post about Harris had 4x as many reads as he has subscribers, we figured we should take a look back at why today's Christians are so damaged. A big part of it is purity culture. Scott never read the book, having slammed it shut after the first page, but poor Priska grew up in the height of the purity movement. And she has some feelings and thoughts.
CW- We don't pull any...
2025-01-251h 54
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Rochelle Younan Montgomery- From APU to a Life of Embodiment and Social JusticeAs we wrap up season 4, we return to where Chapel Probation began: Azusa Pacific "University." 20 years ago, I was asked to take over a Freshman Writing class because the other adjunct quit suddenly. There I met Rochelle and we've been friends ever since. From the shallow, fake people of the dorms to the fringes of APU's then progressive crevices, Rochelle went from evangelical christian to a shade of Buddhism and a heart for social justice. Her identity as a mixed-race person who is deeply thoughtful and always seeking truth has made her into an amazing person today.
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2025-01-141h 08
The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsEP322 - 2024 Holiday RecapEP322 - 2024 Holiday Recap Episode Summary: In today's episode of the Jason & Scot Show, Jason and Scot recap the 2024 holiday season, and give a preview of the upcoming NRF Big Show. The week of January 20th, we'll be publishing our annual predictions show. If you enjoyed the episode, help us reach more listeners by leaving a five-star review on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for tuning in! Episode 322 of the Jason & Scot show was recorded on Wednesday, January 8th, 2025.
2025-01-1145 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Chaz: Host of the Excommunication Station and a Christmas MessageIt's Christmas Eve and this means different things for everyone. Some have the family gathering with food and laughter. Many do not. Chaz grew up in an unhappy family that was fully devoted to the horrific teachings of a backwards church. He endured every kind of abuse there is before growing up and finding his way out.
As a co-host of the Excommunication Station, Chaz pushes back at the harmful parts of christian culture and politics. And as a father and husband, he is healing from his childhood while fostering a loving and supportive family life.
2024-12-241h 44
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- REAP w Erin and CrystalLGBTQIA students, faculty, and staff at chrisitian schools have always faced bigotry and discrimination. Since the election a few weeks ago, that bigotry and discrimination has increased at alarming levels. Although there is uncertainty about the future of Title 9 protections, the fact is that queer people have not been safe at christian schools and this will only worsen in the coming years as schools might not even need to justify their systemic queerphobia with exemptions to Title 9. REAP, the Religious Exemption Accountability Project is now a full-functioning 501c3 organization and is ready to support LGBTQIA people in christian schools...
2024-11-261h 17
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Donavon Delisle-SA Survivor Turned Deconstruction PodcasterDonavon Delisle grew up in a nightmarish household of bizarre christianity and an abusive father who controlled everything. As awful as Donavon's story is, it falls within the "normal" area of christian households for the simple fact that it was patriarchal. Sexual, physical, and emotional abuse may have been factors in the house, but these were all under the umbrella of patriarchal normalcy. If it's acknowledged at all, it's forgiven and even sanctioned. Because the bible says so. That settles it.
But Donavon found love and friendship outside of religion and clawed his way out. He is...
2024-11-121h 35
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Tori Williams Douglass- Christian Homeschool to Anti-Racist EducatorTori Williams Douglass is back on Chapel Probation to talk about her homeschooling experience, which was more home indoctrination into fundamentalist chrsitianity than home education. But she asked questions and sought answers, which is a recipe for disaster in that world. We also talk about Content Warning and how it can help us heal from our educational and church pasts.
Be sure to check out Tori's podcast, White Homework and Go Home Bible, You're Drunk with co-host Justin Gentry.
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2024-11-051h 20Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4: "Julie" Former EV School Math Teacher Tells All"Julie," (not her real name) has been listening to Chapel Probation for a while and came to a SoCal ExVangelical hang at my house a few months ago. She told me about her time teaching at a well-known Christian school in the area, and I was struck by how similar our stories were. Like me, the whole experience contributed greatly to her deconstruction, forcing her to choose her humanity over the bigotry embedded in evangelical culture, particularly against LGBTQIA people. Julie tells her story of how she got into and out of this culture and how she has been...
2024-10-151h 30
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Maggie Harrigan: Hello Deconstructionists Podcast Host and Gordon College AlumnOne of the new hosts in the Dauntless Media Collective, Maggie Harrigan is a graduate of Gordon College who came onto Chapel Probation to talk about her experiences there and her life since. She found some good professors and even better friends while at Gordon who helped her to deconstruct her fundamentalist beliefs and forge a new worldview based on truth and love. Today, Maggie hosts the Hello Deconstructionists podcast where she talks with a diverse collection of guests about their lives outside of their former evangelical upbringings.
You can hear Scott on Hello Deconstructionists here.
2024-10-081h 05
The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsEP320 - News, First Half Recap, Early Holiday PreviewEP320 - News, First Half Recap, Early Holiday Preview http://jasonandscot.com 0:23 Welcome Back After Hiatus 2:51 Upcoming Events in Retail 7:28 GroceryShop 16:02 Retail Growth Trends 21:28 Concerns for Holiday 2024 30:27 The De Minimis Provision 40:27 TikTok's Impact on E-commerce In this episode of The Jason and Scot Show, we discuss the current state of retail and e-commerce. We analyze macroeconomic factors impacting the retail landscape, noting a 3.4% growth in core retail and a maturation of e-commerce, dominated by giants like Amazon and Walmart. We address consumer sentiment heading into the holiday season and the potential...
2024-09-1746 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Desiree McCullough- From SBC Pastors Wife to Sexual EmpowermentEarlier this year, I read an amazing piece in the Huffington Post about a woman who was once a pastor's wife who left the church and ended up opening up her marriage to explore dating and sexuality for the first time. I immediately thought this woman would fit in beautifully with our Content Warning community...only to discover she had actually been at Content Warning. I somehow didn't meet her there, but it made sense. And having her on Chapel Probation to tell her story and talk about her new explorations of her body and her sexual identity was...
2024-09-171h 19
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4: Horny Chapel #3 Keiko Agena Talks Purity and Gilmore GirlsThis week we are joined by a special guest, our dear friend
Keiko Agena. Keiko is best known for her role as Lane Kim on the show Gilmore
Girls, but she is also a writer, artist, and beloved member of our AAPI arts
and activist community in Los Angeles. With her own real-life evangelical past
to draw on, she goes deep in analyzing her Lane Kim role as we talk about the
dangers and harms to young women inside of purity culture. Gilmore Girls
superfan, Priska, unleashes 16 years of pent up questions, making this
conversation must-listen for all Gilmore...
2024-09-101h 15Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Hannah Lee: Korean American Church, Ski Pants Demon, and Purity Culture Survivor and ArtistHannah Lee knew early on that life inside of her Korean American church was far too restrictive for her. And even though she felt that church life was deeply embedded into life as a Korean American, she saw its limitations as a curious, passionate person who valued art and people outside of the church. From her mom trying to exercise demons who would have her buy ski pants (true story) to the damage of purity culture in the 90's, Hannah broke free in early adulthood and has carved out a life outside. She found queer community and art to...
2024-09-031h 18
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Marla Taviano Returns to Talk Poem Art Therapy and Terrible Christian MenMarla Taviano returns this week to talk about how her latest book of poetry, Poem Art Therapy, can help all women who've been through terrible marriages and divorces in the christian world. Just as her White Girl Learning work reflects Marla's journey as she decolonizes her mind regarding race, Poem Art Therapy reflects her clap back against patriarchy and shitty christian marriages and men. She reads from her book at the end and the episode wraps with a track from Scott's old band, Band Moto, that perfectly represents Marla's and our feeling towards terrible men.
For the...
2024-08-201h 20
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Clare McIvor- Australian NAR Homeschooling SurvivorClare McIvor grew up in the toxic Christian Nationalist movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation. This included all of those damn 7 Mountains, and it forced her to deny all of the natural aspects of her humanity. After fighting to get out, she has educated herself and armed herself with knowledge and courage to fight against that world and its insidious agenda to take over the world for White fundamentalist Jesus.
You can find all of Clare's work here.
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2024-08-131h 15
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation Collab- The Horny Chapel Episode 1The first episode of the Horny Chapel, a collaboration with Priska of the Two Horny Goats podcast. We introduce this limited series with a look back at our youth and early adulthood and break down the ins and outs, so to speak, of purity culture. And we talk about where this series will go in the coming episodes. In the end, we hope to help everyone become sex-positive and love themselves. Be sure to subscribe to the separate podcast feed and follow us on Instagram.
Join the Horny Chapel Discord server to keep the conversation going.
2024-08-061h 26
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Sheila Chappelle- Freed-Hardiman Pastor to Deconstruction MentorSheila Chappelle has come such a long way from being a student at an oppressively high control school that had a wild counter culture. She had to remove herself from this environment and ultimately this religion altogether to overcome her finely honed skills of keeping secrets. But she's overcome that by getting sober and transitioning into her true self, and now she helps others heal from religious trauma.
You can follow her popular Tik Tok here.
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2024-07-301h 16Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Seth- Deconstructed Because of Bob Jones IIISeth survived 2 years at Bob Jones only because he figured out how to actually live life. But this required a significant amount of deception and rides in trunks of cars, so it was just a matter of time before he asked himself if all the effort was worth it. When he challenged the school's racist prohibition of interracial dating, arguing directly with Bob Jones III, himself, the experience jettisoned him from Christianity.
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2024-07-231h 13
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Peter Hull- The Chapel Probation Champ of Grace CollegeWe're back with a traditional Chapel Probation episode talking to Peter Hull, a Gen X dude who almost never went to chapel while at Grace College. He only stayed for 5 semesters, but he got a taste of shitty christian higher ed. We talk purity culture and the struggles of finding oneself after faith in the aftermath of Grace College.
Here's a link to the artist Peter mentions, Alannah Sabbatini.
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2024-07-161h 17
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4: Christa Brown- SBC Abuse Survivor and Activist for JusticeChrista Brown was a victim of horrible sexual abuse as a child by her SBC youth pastor. This took place in what she calls, "Baptistland," and this is the title of her incredible book. She writes unflinchingly at her childhood filled with abuse at the hands of said pastor and her family members, but she also pulls herself out of Baptistland to become a successful attorney. She eventually takes up the fight against the SBC when she discovers that her experience was not unique in the SBC. In an attempt to expose the coverup that was systemically engineered at...
2024-07-091h 13
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Dave Galvan: Pentecostal Worship to a Life of Real Music in CommunityI knew Dave Galvan as a friend and bandmate for many years before I learned that he grew up in a strict Pentecostal church. And I learned in this episode that Dave led worship with a black Les Paul copy at that church. Epic. When you know people outside of religion, you can just live and enjoy life, so I was a little anxious making Dave go back through his early days, but that's what bandmates do. We go on each other's podcasts and talk about depressing shit.
For the first time I'm including music Dave and...
2024-07-021h 25
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Mark: The Pentecostal to IVCF to War to Goth Club PipelineEver since I started this podcast, I've wanted my friend Mark to come on to tell his story. But even more has happened since early 2022, so I'm actually glad he finally agreed to come over and do this. It's a story of a common upbringing in high control pentacostalism to the lighter theologies of Inter Varsity Christian Fellowship at the beginning. But life got pretty damn scary for Mark after he joined the Navy while in medical school. After seeing up-close the horrors of war, he came home with his faith severely challenged. And then we almost lost him...
2024-06-252h 13
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4 Erica Smith- Sexual Healing After Purity CultureSex educator Erica Smith did not grow up in Purity Culture, but she has learned about how damaging it is for men and women and for society. She has dedicated her life's work to helping people heal from their patriarchal pasts that stunted their development as sexual humans and move forward to explore their bodies and their sexuality. With a deep understanding of race, gender, and the maddening behaviors of fundamentalists, Erica is well-suited to help folks in deconstruction become more whole as humans.
You can check out all of her courses and writings at her website.
2024-06-181h 12
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Taz Ahmed: Art, Activism, and Islam for Social JusticeThe first non-Christian guest on Chapel Probation! Hear Scott's pal Tanzila (Taz) Ahmed tell her story and talk about her life of advocating for human flourishing. Her poetry will rock you to the core, and you'll hear her performace from the 2016 AAPI Heritage event at the White House during President Obama's last year. And whatever you know or don't know about the Islamic faith, Taz will surprise you with her views on art, activism, and life.
Taz was a co-host of the wildly popular Good Muslim/Bad Muslin Podcast, and she is the author of a new...
2024-06-111h 14
The David Spisak ShowScott Wingo: Winning the Customer Experience with Mobile ServiceScott Wingo is a serial entrepreneur and the CEO and founder of Spiffy, a company revolutionizing car care through a unique blend of digital and physical services. With a background in engineering and a track record of successful ventures, Scott brings a wealth of experience and insight into transforming traditional industries through technology.What We Discuss In This Episode:We dive deep into Scott’s journey from a small-town engineer to a serial entrepreneur who has successfully taken companies public and spearheaded significant industry disruptions.Scott reveals the core philosophy behind Sp...
2024-06-061h 01
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4 Abraham Kim: Korean PK- Badass DrummerWhen you are the son of a big-time Korean pastor who suffers from narcissism and rage, christianity and life are filled with trauma and despair. But Abraham Kim found music and drums early on to help him deal with life, drumming his response to violence at home and oppression in the church. And he found his way out with the help of Talbot (Biola) and found footing in a full, beautiful life with his life partner, Priska, who you heard in Season 3. He's one of my favorite drummers in the world, and one of the best people I know.
2024-06-041h 24
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Episode 100 with traci kato-kiriyamaIf you've read my book, Asian American Apostate, you know how important traci is to me. She's important to a lot of people, really. But she met me when I was still trying to be a Christian, and she helped me become the person I am today. So it makes sense to have her be the guest for the 100th episode of Chapel Probation. You'll hear her story, her perspective as a visitor to APU when I was teaching there, and you'll hear the origins of her art and activism. Get to know this person. One of the best...
2024-05-281h 36
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Ross MontgomeryRoss is the real deal. Solid human who sees all the things we need our White men allies to see. Do I go a little overboard praising him? Sure. Am I sorry about that? Hell no. Anyone who steps away from privilege to engage in the complexities of other peoples' lives is awesome in my book. Throughout Ross's christian life, he challenged assumptions and pushed back at racism, homophobia, sexism, and all manner of bigotry. And I appreciate the hell out of him.
CW- Evangicubes, stumblebragging, and pickleball
And a little sketch with Holly from...
2024-05-211h 17
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- Pastor Trey FergusonPastor Trey is the author of Theologizin Bigger from Lake Drive Books, and he is a solid human. From a wild college experience at the University of Miami, Trey found himself at a fundamentalist seminary and eventually dropped out. He found a home at a much more open-minded seminary and now is a pastor and social media presence, pushing back at the worst parts of Christianity and spreading wisdom and love to everyone. Even Asian American Apostates.
Trey is also the creator of the New Living Treyslation podcast and a co-host of the Three Black Men podcast.
2024-05-141h 15
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4 Lisa Christy (Grove City College)The first full episode of Season 4 has Lisa Christy from Grove City College. She got duped into going to this Libertarian and Presbyterian school and ended up staying. She found community in the "rebel" crowd and started a significant sports revolution at the school.
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2024-05-071h 11Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s4- An Introduction to the PodcastAnd we're back. Heading into the 100th episode. This one is #95. We look back on some clips, bits, and songs of the past 3 seasons as we look forward to the shenanigans coming in season 4.
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2024-04-3052 min
The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsEP318 - Temu Deep Dive with Earnest AnalyticsEP318 - Temu Deep Dive with Earnest Analytics Episode Summary: In this episode, Jason "Retailgeek" Goldberg and Scot Wingo dive deep Temu, the online marketplace operated by the Chinese e-commerce company PDD Holdings, that has become the fastest growing retailer in history. Joining us on the episode is Michael Maloof is the Head of Marketing for Earnest Analytics. Earnest works with world-class data partners to acquires, anonymize, and productize insight about the entire U.S. Economy. They have posted numerous insights about Temu in the US this year:
2024-03-1542 min
Chapel ProbationNew Collab Coming Repost: Chapel Probation s3- Priska- From PK to the Two Horny Goats PodcastUPDATE: Get to know Priska if you haven't already. She will be collaborating with Scott to bring you a BIPOC-centered, AAPI-flavored podcast about leaving evangelical Purity Culture. Coming soon!
About 11 years ago, I went to a Tuesday Night Cafe and saw a young woman in her early 20's perform there for the first time. Priska's voice and playing floored us as she performed her original songs, and she immediately became part of our community as an incredible singer/songwriter and all-around amazing human. As I got to know her, I discovered that she was in the process...
2024-02-241h 19
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3 Valentine's Day SpecialIt's a bromance that eclipses the love of women. It's playful, raw, and unabashed. God has made men in his image, and that image is good, so young christian men at evangelical schools not only proudly display their dicks and balls, they create ways to interact with them. In this episode, we look at the practices and we laugh a little, but we also worry that this entitled, rather domineering display of manhood might have sadder and more insidious implications. These are christian men, after.
We are joined by Tori and Justin on the Go Home Bible...
2024-02-131h 51
The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsEP317 - Amazon Q4 ResultsEP317 - Amazon Q4 Results Episode Summary: In this episode, Jason Goldberg and Scot Wingo dive deep into Amazon's fourth-quarter results for 2023, analyzing the company's performance in various segments such as retail, offline and online sales, marketplace, AWS, and advertising. They also explore the impact of AI on Amazon's business and provide insights into the company's future guidance for Q1 2024. Amazon had a strong Q4 earnings report, beating analyst expectations for revenue and income. In fact, it was Amazon's most profitable quarter ever. Retail sales...
2024-02-0838 min
The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsEP316 - Annual Predictions 2024EP316 - Annual Predictions 2024 Jason visited the Walmart Neighborhood Market in Pea Ridge, Arkansas featuring drone delivery. Here is a video for those interested. 2023 Predictions Recap Jason: At least 2 retail bankruptcies (besides Party City) Yes BNPL Consolidation (Klarna, Affirm, Afterpay. Sezzle) – at least one merges/exits US or BNPL. No Shopify launches an ad product such as a retail media network Yes Meta/Google/TikTok lose ad share to new social media platforms and retail media networks. No Live Streaming Commerce Still not meaningful in US in 2023 (less than 5% of social commerce in US) Ye...
2024-02-0859 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3 WrapA thank you to all of you who listen and a preview of things to come.
Be sure to register for the Content Warning livestream which happens Feb 17-18. Or better yet, come on out to Portland to hang with us.
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2024-02-0616 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Angela Herrington- From Wesleyan to Deconstruction AuthorYou've probably heard of or seen Angela Herrington through her online events or the Faith Deconstruction Cafe on Facebook, and you might have wondered, what is her back story? Well here it is. Angela has a book due out Feb 20, How to Deconstruct Your Faith Without Losing Yourself, and she did time on Chapel Probation to tell her story of coming out of just about every Wesleyan school in Indiana, including seminary, to becoming a valuable resource for people leaving toxic religious faith.
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2024-01-301h 13
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Jon Turney- A Life of Searching for TruthJon Turney is the co-host of the This Is Not Church podcast with his brother and previous Chapel Probation guest, Nat. He has written a novel, RJ the Astronaut, which is reminiscent of CS Lewis's science fiction work with a modern twist. Jon spent is youth and young adult life trying to find answers to his deep questions about life and faith, and this quest is reflected in his thoughtful novel about an astronaut stranded on a space ship, finding deep conversation with...someone or something.
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2024-01-231h 16
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- The Sexvangelicals- Jeremiah and JuliaChristian colleges often tout their illustrious alumni who accomplish great things in the christian world. Jeremiah and Julia won't likely be listed in such lists for Abilene Christian or Calvin college. That's because they are licensed sex therapists who promote sexual wellbeing in all of its forms. Their podcast, the Sexvangelicals, is a great look into unpacking religious trauam when it comes to sex and sexuality, and a resource for people looking to expand their understanding of sex and sexuality. Here they talk about their religious backgrounds and how they found their way out to do the very important...
2024-01-161h 21
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Justin Gentry- Former Pastor to Go Home, Bible, You're DrunkAnother podcasting hero of mine, Justin Gentry, does time on Chapel Probation. He talks about his time at Indiana Wesleyan and his epic attempt at being a pastor before deciding his humanity and care of others were more important than his faith. After leaving fundamentalist christian faith, Justin has used his voice and perspective, teaming up with Sarah Heath on the RevCovery Podcast and Tori Williams Douglass on the Go Home, Bible, You're Drunk Podcast. Both are popular shows and both offer incredible healing and growth for their respective audiences. Perhaps most importantly, Justin works out to remain a...
2024-01-091h 20
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Esther Tseng- Food and Social Justice after FaithEsther Tseng is a badass food blogger and writer who wrote the article, The Silence of My White Friends After Atlanta, back in 2021. She captured what a lot of us were feeling during a time when our AAPI community felt targeted by rabid, ignorant MAGA Trumpers. But before she became a renowned food writer and social justice advocate, Esther grew up in a fundamentalist christian home that hindered her growth as a human. Through progressive church and therapy, she found her way out of faith altogether, finding identity in community and food. Check out her Instagram to experience her...
2024-01-021h 14
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Tim Mills- The Harmonic Atheist (BJU)It may seem a little harsh to post an episode the day after xmas with the creator of the Harmonic Atheist youtube channel, it just kinda worked out that way. Tim Mills is a self-described atheist who, like so many others this season, devoted his life to absolute adherence to fundamentalist Christianity. But his quest for the truth ultimately led him right out of faith, despite the horrible cost of losing friends and family. But he's doing good work, hosting the conversations that need to be had and pointing out the dangers of fundamentalist religion.
Here's the...
2023-12-271h 19
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Ryan Mulkowski- IFB, Pensacola, Liberty to Loss of FaithOnce again, we have someone who did everything humanly possible to be a devout, devoted christian only to walk away from fundamentalist, White nationalist christianity. Ryan Mulkowski, the host of the Some Random Thoughts podcast did time on Chapel Probation to share his story of coming up through the violent IFB cult to a soul-crushing semester at Pensacola, to seminary at Liberty to fully extricating himself from the toxic cultiness of those worlds. His life is now dedicated to helping people heal and grow as their true selves.
And since it's the week before christmas, let's do...
2023-12-191h 18
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Jered- Simpson College to Social Justice MathJered held on to his evangelical faith for dear life for a long time. But when he couldn't abide the racism, conservative politics, and weak teachings anymore, he just couldn't stay. To his credit. In our conversation, we talk about rampant nudity in the Simpson College boys dorms, problematic teachings in church, parenting, and...math? Yes, math. Pay attention, kids. This could change your life.
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2023-12-121h 05Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- "Special K"- An Anonymous Listener Tells Her Story for the First Time"K" had the unique experience of growing up Southern Baptist in Southern California. She went to UCLA fully intending to maintain her deeply held fundamentalist Christian faith and sought to fortify her faith by learning as much as she could from campus ministries and local churches. But K realized she was not satisfied with the answers to her questions. It wasn't even close. After a few powerful realizations, she had to give in to what her heart and a mind were telling her: The bible was flawed, and she faced a crisis of faith. But this is a story...
2023-12-111h 33Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Kit- IBLP to SBC to FreedomKathleen, aka Kit, will tell you she was infantilized by her parents from time her family entered the IBLP world until she was in her early 20's. In the patriarchal, abusive, and oppressive world of IBLP, going to a Southern Baptist Convention college was a breath of fresh...er air. Freshness being relative in this metaphor, Kit, found freedom in SBC college and even got up the courage to finally break free of her bizarrely overprotective parents who really just wanted to keep her as a little girl until she could be handed off to a husband. Through health...
2023-12-051h 09
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Sarah Hayward- Author of Giving Up GodLike many of us, Sarah Henn Hayward did everything she could to remain a christian. She read books, she asked questions, and she learned to be inclusive and affirming. And everything she did to remain helped her deconstruct all the way out of christianity. It's not so much a "slippery slope" as it is a snowball succumbing to gravity as it rolls down a hill, gathering mass and momentum. And it's a glorious ride.
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2023-11-211h 06
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Ryan Stollar- Child Liberation TheologyRyan "RL" Stollar is an invaluable online presence, writing about homeschooling and child liberation theology on his blog and for many online publications. His new book, The Kingdom of Children, is a must-read for those of us interested in fighting the fundamentalist christian parenting movements that seek to indoctrinate children with harmful ideologies. With resources like Ryan, we can use the Bible against the evangelicals.
The bonus segment is a rendition of an old blog post I did when my kids were young. In it, I decry parenting norms and call for an end to Christmas. You...
2023-11-141h 16
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Simon Graham- Deconstructing Whiteness and PatriarchyI met Simon Graham during my last year at UC San Diego, and though we've rarely seen each since that year, we've kept in touch, marking our growth as people, as husbands, and as fathers in this complex world. And Simon is one of the finest humans I've had the pleasure of knowing. In the past year, we've talked about our views on race, gender, patriarchy, and all aspects of life, and I knew I wanted to have a conversation with him on Chapel Probation. Think of this as an adjacent conversation to our usual talk of religious deconstruction...
2023-11-071h 16
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- A Conversation with Jo LuehmannI bonded with Jo Luehmann last year over our shared love of comedian Atsuko Okatsuka, and I even had the honor of introducing Jo to Atsuko. Two epic women for sure. In this bonus episode while I'm on vacation, Jo and I talk about our books while sitting on a bench in Central Park just a stone's throw from one of Turmp's towers. Jo's forthcoming book, Predatory God is due out next year, and she's currently in the editing phase, which can be a soul-crushing part of the writing process. From the haunting voices of our past selves to...
2023-10-3148 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- PDX Ben- Vanguard to Seminary to Great DadBen is a friend I first met at the epic PDX meetup last year. He had told me a little about his past as an evangelical who wanted to be a pastor or some kind of biblical scholar, but I had no idea how far he had come from his early adulthood. It's really an honor to bring you this story that goes all the usual places with problematic evangelical culture and dodgy theology and ends up with Ben just trying to heal and be the best father and partner he can be. I was moved by Ben's willingness...
2023-10-241h 13
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Kristin Luna- A Sister 9 from APUBack at APU with another of the badass Sisters 9 writing group. Kristin Luna, aka K-wing, was such an important person to me. She was part of the group of students who saw me and welcomed me in as a fellow fringe/bad person at APU. I remembered my mentor professors who let me into their personal lives at UC San Diego, and I allowed myself to be that professor with them. And Kristin being an amazing writer meant we spent a lot of time workshopping her work and talking about life. I saw her go through some of the...
2023-10-171h 28
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Timothy Cooper- Newly Deconverted and Kicking Ass after Masters CollegeI spend way too much time trying to figure out how fundamentalist, conservative White folks become enlightened and caring of the world around them. We may never know, but meeting Tim Cooper has given me hope. Tim deconverted slowly over time and taught himself to interrogate first his faith and then his worldview. And in a relatively short time, he has become an incredible human being, far from his religious and White-centered past. As recently as 2022, he was still trying to live as a christian, but no more. After going to Masters College, he asked all the questions even...
2023-10-101h 28
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Nat Turney-Author of The Seeds of De(CON)struction.I was a guest on the podcast, This Is Not Church with Jon and Nat Turney a few months ago, and we had a great time talking about my book and rock music. Sometimes you meet people, and immediately click, and this was the case with me and the Turney boys. So when I heard that Nat was publishing his book, The Seeds of De(Con)struction, I messaged him to come do time on Chapel Probation. And we had an epic conversation about life, theology, and living life constantly searching for truth.
You can hear my...
2023-10-031h 19
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Jon Carl Lewis- Sex Education for All of UsJon Carl Lewis went to Princeton, but he sought out the repressive Christian elements he grew up with, hoping to "pray the gay away." But, he deconstructed after some horrific and lonely times to progressive forms of Christianity, eventually finding his way to leather bars in Boston and a life of sexual liberation. He has written and taught about sex and sexuality, even in largely White spaces like the Wild Goose Festival, using all of his life experiences to help others deconstruct their guilt-ridden purity culture pasts find liberation through their bodies and their sexuality.
Here are...
2023-09-261h 18
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Xeres Villanueva- From APU into the MysticXeres survived APU as a neuro-divergent Filipina woman and went on to explore personal and generational healing through community activism and explorations into the mystical aspects of religion. Leaning into her culture and her identity have helped her to find ways to help others with her project, The Estuary Moments. And I've had the privilege of knowing and witnessing Xeres' development from her freshman year to now, almost 15 years later. She is a staff member of the beloved Tuesday Night Cafe, an arts and activism space in Los Angeles.
You can read more about Xeres' work in...
2023-09-191h 01
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3: Father Shannon TL Kearns- A Transition to the DivineShannon Kearns grew up in a fundamentalist family and church knowing he was outside of the parameters of acceptable christian living. He resolved to live as a celibate queer woman and become a youth pastor, and even did so for a time. But he eventually found a fuller life and a viable faith by transitioning. It was this new perspective as a man secure in his identity that unlocked the missing elements of christian faith and a life fully-lived.
Shannon's book, In the Margins: A Trans Man's Journey With Scripture, gives us 9 examples of scripture celebrating life...
2023-09-051h 09
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Brandon Flanery: Sex and the Divine after YWAMBrandon Flanery grew up in fundamentalist evangelical culture, but he knew early on he was gay. This caused him to dig in harder to his faith, leading him to an evangelical school and eventually YWAM. But he eventually discovered that embracing his sexuality gave him a peace and joy about himself, and he has since explored all manner of experiences leading him to better understand himself and the world. Brandon has a new book out now from Lake Drive Books, Stumbling: A Sassy Memoir About Coming Out of Evangelicalism.
Chapel Probation is part of...
2023-08-291h 16
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Heather Owens: IBLP/ATI SurvivorHeather Owens was literally born of IBLP/ATI indoctrination, the result of her parents deciding to resume filling up their "quivers" for christs by having "reversal babies." We are grateful that Heather is here, though, and her story sheds more bad light on the IBLP/ATI world with its systemic abuse of babies and children and its shielding of powerful men who groom and assault women.
Heather may have been born with some health issues, but her three-valve heart is strong, as you'll hear. From dutiful, yet repressed, childhood to an out and proud bisexual woman living...
2023-08-221h 03
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Andrew Pledger: Surviving BJUAndrew Pledger grew up in a Christian fundamentalist cult (IFB) that led him to attend Bob Jones University. He knew he was gay, and he knew things were not right with the faith that criminalized his very existence. But as a young man, he had no options to escape his family's control or the bizarre, abusive rules of BJU. At first, Andrew tried to put his head down, follow the rules, and get out with a degree. But BJU, a global pandemic, and his own development as a human made that impossible. He pushed back, got expelled, and has...
2023-08-151h 27
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Em Torres: The Life She WroteBefore Chapel Probation and before Asian American Apostate existed, Em Torres invited me to come onto her podcast, The Life She Wrote. I had written her a theme song, but other than that, I didn't have anything public out there, but Em saw me as someone with something to say. I'll always be grateful for that.
Em went to Vanguard University for a year, trying her best to follow God's will, but when it became financially impossible for her to continue there, she started to question what God's will even meant. She attended and worked at churches...
2023-08-081h 37
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation bonus segment: OK, OppenheimerCW: descriptions of nuclear war
I wrote a longer version of this in my substack, but here is something I wanted to say on this platform. I had to stop and regroup a few times, and I even had to omit a few lines because I just couldn't say them out loud.
But I'm not OK with Oppenheimer. I'm not saying anything against anyone who enjoyed it, as I'm sure it's a well-crafted movie. I'm just thinking big picture and how this historical figure is now viewed as an Oscar-worthy film, a complex genius, and...
2023-08-0205 min
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Jazz Robertson- Follow the Drums to DeconstructionJazz Robertson grew up and came of age playing drums in churches. From CCM to gospel, she found connection to musicians and music which kept her involved in church. But the connection to the bible and God never quite happened, despite her best efforts. But like a lot of us, she held on to the music in church until she just couldn't anymore. For both of us, music kept us in church and it led the way out and into the world.
You'll hear clips of our jam session and learn about the bond between musicians, which...
2023-08-011h 18
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Jessica Goforth- IBLP/ATI Nightmare SurvivorIf you've watched the documentary, Shiny Happy People, you know some of the horrific details of the Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP) and the Advanced Training Institute (ATI). Both are systems that drive a cult that became mainstream when The Learning Channel aired too many seasons of that insipid bullshit about the Duggar family. America ate that shit up and made the Duggars the placid faces of IBLP. Sickening. We've since learned of the abuse and grooming of young women to be used by the men in power at IBLP/ATI. Content Warning: a lot of talk of...
2023-07-251h 35
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Tim Mathis- Asbury to "Dirt Bag" LivingThink you know about evangelical revivals? Did you hear about the one at Asbury this year? This episode with author and life adventurer, Tim Mathis, will shed new light on how revivals erupt, so to speak. I promise you, it's not what you think. Or if it is, you're probably a regular listener of Chapel Probation.
Tim Mathis shares his personal stories and observations of his time at Asbury, and he makes a compelling case that revivals and repressed sexuality are connected. We even have a sketch to explain it.
CW-The sketch is R-rated, so...
2023-07-111h 17
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3: Gail- Full Mutuality in Life and PodcastingOne of the best people I've met in the past couple years doing this work is Gail, the co-host of the Full Mutuality Podcast. I want everyone who listens to Chapel Probation to also get to know the other podcasters in our Dauntless Media group, and Gail is one of the founding members. From rough family beginnings to foster care, Gail grew up in Canada in highly religious settings. But she, like her fiance, Nate Nakao, deconstructed to become an amazing human with a heart for all people. We talk about her story and her life and perspective today.
2023-07-041h 21
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- The Religious Exemption Accountability Project (REAP) Erin Green and Paul SouthwickI admit it. There was a time I has zero hope for the LGBTQIA students and faculty at evangelical schools. But that was before REAP came on the scene bringing legal firepower to the fight against the inhumane bigotry and discrimination all evangelical schools are guilty of promoting and enforcing. The tide is turning now. Paul Southwick started REAP after working with trans students at an evangelical school, and Erin Green, an established queer activist on evangelical campuses in her own right, joined up to make one hell of a badass duo. You'll hear how Paul and Erin started...
2023-06-271h 28
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Janice Lagata: Inside Hillsong "College" and Hillsong NYCYou've seen (hopefully) The Secrets of Hillsong. You lamented how it centered Carl Lentz cosplaying Zoolander at his "corporate" job (That wasn't just me, right?). And you were introduced to Janice Lagata, if you didn't already know her work. So forget Carl and listen to Janice tell her story of attending Hillsong "College" in Australia and being part of the beginning of Hillsong NYC. More importantly, listen to her talk about getting out and moving on. Janice's podcasts, God Has Not Given, and Bad Words, are great resources for all of us moving on from evangelical faith.
2023-06-201h 23
Chapel ProbationChapel Probation s3- Peter Fenton- From Wheaton to Off-BroadwayPeter Fenton is a young man just 6 years out of college at Wheaton, and he is killing it. His creative output for this year alone is incredible, and his past life as an evangelical has served to fuel his creative energy. He's got a film he produced making the festival rounds, and his play, Abandon All Hope is set to premier at the Rougue Theater Festival Off-Broadway this Saturday night. A lot has happened in a short amount of time for Peter professionally and personally. His faith, his sexuality, and his career path have all been affected by his...
2023-06-061h 23
Beyond 8 FiguresContinuous Learning for Business Growth with Scot Wingo, SpiffyScot Wingo’s entrepreneurial journey can be characterized by his commitment to continuous learning! In this episode, Scot talks about the various ways in which he has deliberately worked on enhancing his business skills and the success that he has achieved as a result. The world is full of endless opportunities for learning; don’t let them slip past you. About Scot Wingo:Scot Wingo is a highly accomplished 4-time serial entrepreneur, currently serving as the CEO of Spiffy, a leading provider of on-demand car care services. With an impressive 25 years of industry expert...
2023-05-3147 min
Chapel ProbationS2.E32- After Hours with Ariel ClimerAriel has been a big supporter of Chapel Probation as a moderator for the Facebook group and the inspiration behind in-person events. She attended APU and is connected to A Scott and Mahrs Shoppman as a housemate in the famed Synchronicity LA house, which was an intentional community formed by some APU alumni. I wanted to hear Ariel's thoughts on the podcast and her own experiences at APU, so it's kind of a hybrid episode.
We want to hear your sexiest stories from christian or religious colleges and universities which we will feature in the upcoming anti-purity c...
2023-01-1742 min
Chapel ProbationS2.E20: Michael Smith- The Prof Who Thought it was an Academic Institution (APU)Like some professors at evangelical schools, Michael Smith came to APU assuming he would be teaching at an academic institution. He quickly learned that the school was more concerned with teaching fundamentalist and conservative lifestyles than actual academic learning. Combined with the school's obsession with criminalizing sexuality and any faith traditions outside of evangelical christianity, Professor Smith struggled to find his footing. Faculty and administration seemed wary of his Episcopalian faith and status as a single man. Things got better when he got married, but the seeds of discontent were planted. Like so many other awesome profs, he left...
2022-11-221h 10
Chapel ProbationS2.E18: Janelle, Tim, Kevin, and Scott- "The Bad" Alumns from Inter-Varsity Christian Fellowship UCSDEven though the 4 of us went to an actual "top-notch" university, UC San Diego, our involvement with Inter-Varstiy Christian Fellowship meant our faith was in constant action and activity. We didn't have to deal with a university-wide culture of racism, misogyny, and anti-LGBTQIA hatred, but we embedded ourselves in a clatch of moderately conservative christianity that served to tamp down significant parts of our identities and sexuality. For Tim and Kevin, their experiences as closeted gay men added one more layer of shame, fear, and pain. Even still we were leaders in IVCF. Kevin was even a staff person...
2022-11-151h 27
Chapel ProbationAfter Hours #2 Mahrs Schoppman- Psychotherapy for Queer Ex-ChristiansMahrs Schoppman is a graduate of APU who developed his identity as both a queer person and a deconstructed christian while there. He is grateful to APU for providing an easy foil to pick apart the hollow theology of evangelicalism and for introducing him to his community of fellow queer students, with whom he is still friends to this day. He talks about his work with queer clients seeking healing from religious trauma and responds to some of the stories on this podcast. He was actually introduced anonymously in the finale of season 1 when A Scott talked about their...
2022-11-1041 min
Chapel ProbationS2.E14: Carla- The Answer to Patriarchy and Purity Culture (Grace University)Carla Godwin grew up in Nebraska in a conservative Christian household. She settled on Grace Bible College in Omaha knowing there were limited career options for women in that world. While being constantly reminded of the expectations for women, Carla began pushing back against some interpretations of the Bible. But patriarchy and purity culture kept forcing her to question even more of her faith, leading her to join more progressive churches and organizations. Even still, purity culture was ingrained into the heads of the men, highlighting the rift between men and women in christian settings.
I was fortunate enough to m...
2022-10-251h 16
Chapel ProbationS2.E13: Zach Malm- The Megachurch Destroyer (Seattle Pacific University)Zach Malm came from a family prominent in the Vineyard church world and went to Seattle Pacific University where he was sorely disappointed in both the theological depth and the academic rigor. He ended up seeking these things at a new startup church called Mars Hill. Yes, that Mars Hill. The good news Is that Zach would eventually be credited with bringing Mars Hill down when he revealed to the world that a misogynistic asshole posting on the church website was none other than head pastor Mark Driscoll, himself. He deconstructed during the Trump era and now is a...
2022-10-181h 24
Chapel ProbationS2.E5: Tori Williams Douglass- The Leader We All Need (Northwest College)Tori Williams Douglass is an educator and podcaster who went from a cult-like family upbringing to an Assemblies of God bible college. Thankfully, she dropped out after just one year of the typical racism, sexism, queerphobia, and annoying theo-bro's, thus continuing and accelerating her deconstruction from christianity altogether. Today, her White Homework podcast and website is a crucial resource for all who are decolonizing our minds from anti-Blackness, and her Go Home Bible; You're Drunk podcast with co-host Justin Gentry uses humor and the hosts' extensive knowledge of the Bible to point out the absurdities in both the texts...
2022-08-231h 03
Riding The BUS18. Championship Traits for Hitting & Infield ft. Scott Wingo (Univ. of South Carolina)Do you have to believe in yourself to be a champion? What do championship teams have more than other teams? What does an approach look like for championship level hitters? What role does batting practice play in your approach? What do all great infielders have in common? Are feet actually more important than hands for infielders? How can you use MLB hitters to help your hitting development? What is toughness in baseball and why does it matter? This week’s episodes answers all those questions and so much more with Coach Scott Wingo (Univ. of South Carolina). Coa...
2022-05-111h 01
Chapel ProbationEpisode 13: UPDATE: NOW GOES BY AE SCOTT- The First Wave of LGBTQ Hope at APU
Long before Haven, led by Glenda and her friends, found themselves in a national spotlight, Amy Scott came to APU not yet understanding their identity. Within a year of their time there, they would realize they was not straight, and that this part of their identity was a threat to the fabric of APU's conservative evangelical culture. This also meant, the culture was a very real threat to their fledgling community being formed in the wake of Soul Force's Equality Ride. That event would embolden two students to take a stand against the school's anti-LGBTQ policies...
2022-04-1258 min
Trey Wingo Presents: Half-Forgotten HistoryBonus: Rich Eisen on Stuart Scott, Irvin's speeches, Covering The DraftRich Eisen from the NFL Network joins Trey on this episode. Eisen talks about his ESPN days (2:22) including reflections about his partner Stuart Scott (4:00), Chris Berman “Boomer’s” advice to Eisen & Trey (13:55), the 2020 NFL Draft (20:20), Michael Irvin’s unforgettable speech at a family event (24:58), The Honey Baddger Tyrann Mathieu (28:22), 2020 NFL Games & the effects of Covid (32:02) & NFL Playoff Predictions (36:21).
2020-12-2842 min
The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsStifel Managing Director Scott Devitt on Covid-19EP214 - Stifel Managing Director Scott Devitt on Covid-19 Episode 214 is an interview with Scott Devitt, Managing Director of Internet Equity Research at Stifel, in which we discuss the potential economic impacts of Covid-19. In this interview, we discuss the travel, hospitality, and e-commerce industries, with a deep dive into some of the factors that will impact Amazon. To receive Scotts research and analysis, send an email to him devitts@stifel.com and ask to be added to his distribution list. Don't forget to like our facebook page, and if you enjoye...
2020-04-0256 min
The Belt and Road PodcastComparing the New Chinese and American Development Finance Agencies w/ Scott Wingo2018 saw the creation of two new high-profile development finance agencies. In China there was the creation of the China International Development Cooperation Agency, and in America the International Finance Development Corporation. On this episode, I speak with UPenn Ph.D. student Scott Wingo about his latest article “Too Much Risk or Not Enough? New Development Finance Agencies in China and the United States” that was featured in the Center for Advanced China Research’s blog. In our discussion, we talk about the domestic political economies that spawned these agencies and their ability or inability to carry ou...
2019-03-0433 min
The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsEP066 - Scott Silverman InterviewEP066 - Scott Silverman Scott Silverman is a principal at Scott Silverman Associates and Scott is also co-founder of the Global Ecommerce Leaders Forum. On top of that, he also advises several startups in the e-commerce arena. Scott is one of the inventors of the term CyberMonday. Scott is also a former Executive Director and board member of shop.org. Don't forget to like our facebook page, and if you enjoyed this episode please write us a review on itunes. Episode 66 of the Jason & Scot show was recorded on Monday January 16th, 2017. http...
2017-01-2449 minThe Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail NewsEP063 - GGP EVP Scott MoreyScott Morey is the EVP of GGP, one of the largest mall operators in the US. We spoke with Scott about a Mallageddon, Omni-Channel, Millennial shoppers, and the future of Malls. Selected links: ICSC Mall Data Recommended book: Experience Economy by Joe Pine OpinionLabs survey of Millennial shoppers Deliv on-demand delivery service that Scott mentioned Don't forget to like our facebook page, and if you enjoyed this episode please write us a review on itunes. Episode 63 of the Jason & Scot show was recorded on Wednesday December 7, 2016. http://retailgeek.com/podcast Joi...
2017-01-0454 min