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Enneagram in Real LifeThe Transformative Art of Deep Listening with Emily KasrielOn this week’s episode of Enneagram in Real Life, Stephanie Barron Hall interviews Emily Kasriel, author of "Deep Listening: Transform Your Relationships with Family, Friends, and Foes." Kasriel, a former BBC journalist, introduces the concept of deep listening as a more authentic and transformative approach than traditional active listening. She outlines an 8-step framework that emphasizes self-awareness, creating a safe space, being present, and practicing the embodiment of curiosity and empathy. This episode highlights how deep listening empowers individuals to feel truly heard, reduces defensiveness, and promotes self-discovery and growth for both the speaker and the li...2025-06-2453 min
Enneagram in Real LifeThe Black Enneagram, Cultural Nuance, and Advocacy with Dayo Ajanaku, Type 1On this week’s episode of Enneagram in Real Life, Stephanie Barron Hall interviews Dayo Ajanaku, founder of The Black Enneagram. Dayo discusses her journey of creating her Instagram platform to provide Enneagram education through the lens of Black culture. She shares her experiences as a Type One, balancing law school with her passion, and the challenges of showing up online. Dayo also delves into her understanding of her social subtype, the cultural nuances of her Nigerian American upbringing, and how her Type One shows up in her day-to-day life.Find the full show notes here:...2025-06-101h 06
Enneagram in Real LifeHow to Take Care of Your Type with Christina S. WilcoxOn this week’s episode of Enneagram in Real Life, Stephanie Barron Hall interviews Christina Wilcox, author of Take Care of Your Type and Take Care of Your Friends. Christina discusses the nuanced difference between self-care and self-pampering, focusing on how self-care often involves stepping out of emotional, relational, or physical comfort zones for personal growth. The conversation includes practical and emotional self-care tips for each Enneagram type, Christina’s reflections on writing her book, and updates on her current and upcoming projects.Find the full show notes here: https://www.ninetypes.co/blog/how-to-take-care-of-your-type-with-christina-wilcox2025-05-271h 06
Enneagram in Real LifeTranscending Type with Enneagram 8, Sandra SmithIn this episode of Enneagram in Real Life, Stephanie Barron Hall interviews Sandra Smith, longtime Enneagram teacher and author of The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type. Sandra shares her personal journey of discovering her leading type as Eight, the transformative role the Enneagram has played in her personal growth, and how she now teaches the system as a map toward presence and inner freedom rather than just a typing tool. They explore how they work with clients and teams, how to utilize other points on the map, and how embodied presence can open the...2025-05-1549 min
Enneagram in Real LifeSelf-Improvement and that Pesky Inner Critic as an Enneagram 1 with Colton SimmonsIn this episode of Enneagram in Real Life, Stephanie Barron Hall interviews Colton Simmons. Colton Simmons is the creator and host of You've Got a Type, a podcast dedicated to self-awareness, personal growth, and all things enneagram. Colton has a B.A. & M.A. in Theology, and it was during his time in seminary when he first learned of the enneagram as a tool for spiritual discernment. Since then, Colton has had a long and winding road through many different career paths, but has always reserved time in his life to create meaningful content that improves the l...2025-04-291h 02
Enneagram in Real LifeBecoming Whole Through Slowing Down as an Enneagram 3 with Rev. Nhien VuongOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, Stephanie Barron Hall interviews Reverend Nhien Vuong.Reverend Nhien Vuong, JD, MDiv, is an internationally accredited Enneagram professional with distinction, a certified somatic Enneagram facilitator, and the founder of Evolving Enneagram. She has been studying the Enneagram since 2002, teaching it since 2007, and training other Enneagram professionals since 2017. She holds a juris doctor from Stanford Law School, a master of divinity from Unity Institute and Seminary, and a bachelor of arts in philosophy from the University of California, Irvine.An ordained interspiritual Unity minister, Nhien marries in...2025-04-0255 min
Enneagram in Real LifeBeing "Too Emotional" as an Enneagram 4 with Reagan PughOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, Stephanie Barron Hall interviews Reagan Pugh about his journey of self-discovery through the Enneagram, his new book Too Emotional: Overcome the Thunderstorm of Feelings, Shame, and Self-Doubt, and his personal and professional experiences. Reagan reflects on his early interest in introspection and writing, his professional career as an educator and consultant, and how the Enneagram has deepened his understanding of himself as the one-to-one subtype of Type Four. They discuss themes like shame, emotionality, and the value of taking actionable steps to move beyond internal struggles. Reagan shares practical advice for pe...2025-03-1159 min
Enneagram in Real LifeRelationships, Instincts, and Sex with Dr. Sam E. Greenberg (5) and Lyndsey Fraser, MA, LMFT, CST (9)On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, Stephanie Barron Hall interviews Dr. Sam E. Greenberg, a sexuality researcher and therapeutic coach, and Lyndsey Fraser, a licensed marriage and family therapist and certified sex therapist. The conversation explores the intersection of the Enneagram and sexuality, particularly through the lens of dominant instincts—self-preservation, social, and sexual. The sexperts share insights from their professional and personal experiences on how these instincts influence sexual desire, relational dynamics, and communication in intimate relationships. They also discuss common misconceptions about sexuality, the impact of cultural conditioning, and offer practical advi...2025-02-041h 02
Enneagram in Real LifeHow to Choose a Career that Actually Suits You with Betsy Wills (3) & Alex Ellison (7)On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, Stephanie Barron Hall interviews Betsy Wills and Alex Ellison, co-authors of Your Hidden Genius. The discussion revolves around the role of aptitude testing in career exploration and personal growth. Betsy and Alex share insights into how understanding aptitudes can guide individuals to find career satisfaction, overcome burnout, and navigate workplace dynamics. They explain the science behind aptitudes, the practical tools available in their book, and how these assessments complement personality frameworks like the Enneagram. The conversation highlights actionable steps to foster career wellness and equity in professional se...2025-01-2156 min
Enneagram in Real LifeAm I a 6? Or is that my OCD? with Enneagram 6, Christina S. WilcoxOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, Stephanie meets with Christina S. Wilcox. They discuss Christina’s journey to identifying her Enneagram type and her evolution from mistyping herself as a Four and a Three before ultimately identifying as a Type Six with a Five wing. Christina reflects on how her experiences with OCD, mental health, and personal motivations have intertwined with her understanding of her Enneagram type.Christina is an author, mental health advocate, enneagram expert, and creative. You may recognize her from her first book Take Care of Your...2025-01-101h 05
Enneagram in Real LifeAn Enneagram 1's Path to Freedom, Wholeness, and Letting Go with Brian LeeOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Brian Lee. Brian is a pastor, coach, and speaker. As a survivor of spiritual abuse and religious trauma, he has spent his time since leaving vocational ministry in 2021 working to provide recovery and resources for fellow victims and survivors. In 2023, he created and founded Broken to Beloved, a nonprofit organization that exists to help other victims and survivors through its Annual Summit and seasonal Cohorts, while also providing trauma awareness and safeguarding practices to pastors, leaders and churches.🔗 Connect with Brian Lee2024-12-2656 min
Enneagram-ishS2 E5 - Steph Barron Hall (Sx3) on Image, Self-Efficacy, and Being the Same Person in Every RoomToday’s episode is in conversation with Steph Barron Hall, a Sexual 3, and we chat about shape-shifting, growth, and our value beyond what we produce.STEPHANIE BARRON HALLStephanie Barron Hall (M.A. Organizational Communication & Leadership) is a speaker, certified Enneagram coach, and author of the book, The Enneagram in Love: A Roadmap for Building and Strengthening Romantic Relationships. Stephanie founded her Instagram page, @NineTypesCo, in 2017 as a way to explore her own interest in the Enneagram, and it has since grown into a community of people who are learning about the Enneagram, themselves, and th...2024-09-0443 min
What WorksWhat's Your Type? with Steph Barron HallThis is the 4th part of my series Self-Help, LLC, which I'm replaying over the summer! Enjoy!If your Instagram feed or Explore page looks anything like mine, then you likely see a preponderance of posts about personality types, conditions, or other self-knowledge. We’re hooked on learning about ourselves! And perhaps even more hooked on sharing what we’ve learned—which means that the Instagram algorithm (as well as TikTok’s and Pinterest’s algorithms) has learned to love this kind of content, too.In this episode, I explore discovering ourselves versus making ourselves...2024-08-0131 min
Enneagram in Real LifeShowing Up: Embodied Inner Work as an Enneagram 5 with Chris SchoolcraftOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Chris Schoolcraft. Chris has led and coached individuals, teams, and organizations through adversity for over 25 years. During this time, he has worked in religious, non-profit, and corporate settings, investing in urban, small towns, and suburban communities. He has learned from and supported both the disenfranchised and the ultra-wealthy, personally and professionally, partnering with non-profits and businesses to positively impact communities and lives.A little over 8 years ago, Chris's life underwent a foundation-shaking shift, prompting him to seek new tools, perspectives, and relationships. He was introduced to th...2024-05-2157 min
Enneagram in Real LifeFinding Your Guiding Light (Enneagram Virtues) with GLDN Founder and Enneagram 7, Chrissy LavdovskyOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Chrissy Lavdovksy, the passionate founder and lead designer of GLDN Jewelry: a studio she started a decade ago with just fifty bucks in her pocket…and organically grew into the beloved brand it is today. Her dream was to create personal, meaningful jewelry that connects people to their stories and makers to their craft through conscious, thoughtful practices. Chrissy’s enthusiasm for design and love for exploring our humanness became the cornerstones of GLDN, transforming jewelry into intrinsically charged keepsakes that represent what you care about most. GLDN...2024-05-1455 min
Enneagram in Real LifeNavigating Identity as a Busy Mom with Enneagram 9s Susanne & Missy, Hosts of the Mom &... PodcastOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Missy Stevens and Susanne Kerns of the “Mom and…” Podcast. Missy Stevens is a writer, foster child advocate, and podcaster. Her past life includes stints as a corporate community relations manager, and non-profit communications writer. These days, Missy is an aspiring novelist, slowly working on endless revisions of her first manuscript. Her work has been featured in local and national online publications, as well as in the stage production, Listen to Your Mother. Susanne is a humor writer living in Austin, Texas with her h...2024-05-071h 04
Enneagram in Real LifeMindfulness, Presence, and an Enneagram Path to Healing Humanity with Dr. Deborah Threadgill Egerton, Type 1On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Dr. Deborah Threadgill Egerton. She is an Internationally Respected Psychotherapist, Best-selling Author and Unity and Belonging Advocate for the Healing of Humanity. Affectionately referred to as Dr. E, she has attained IEA Certification with Distinction for her groundbreaking utilization of the Enneagram in the realm of bridging historical divides. Her work is dedicated to dismantling marginalization and transcending the divisive practice of "othering".Dr. E serves as the President of the International Enneagram Association and extends her coaching and mentoring expertise to a diverse spectrum of in...2024-04-301h 07
Enneagram in Real LifeHow a Bioinspirationalist Learns from Nature to Spark Ideas & Ignite Action with Dr. Jeff Karp, Enneagram 7On this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Jeff Karp, Ph.D., acclaimed mentor and biomedical engineering professor at Harvard Medical School and MIT, a Distinguished Chair at Brigham and Women’s Hospital. As a child, his teacher wanted to hold him back in the second grade. As an adult, he got his PhD, became a celebrated Professor and member of the National Academy of Inventors, and a Distinguished Chair at Brigham and Women’s Hospital where he has co-founded twelve companies, amassed over 100 patents and received 50 awards.Fueled by his Life Ignition Tools, 'LIT...2024-04-101h 05
Enneagram in Real LifeNot Perfect Enough to Be a Perfectionist as an Enneagram 1 with Dani CooperOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Dani Cooper, a Certified Enneagram Teacher, Coach, and totally-biased cheerleader for individuals, couples, and teams who want to find out who they really are and grow beyond the armor of their Enneagram types. She is the author of the book, The Enneagram for Christian Couples, which came out in 2022. Her life's work is learning how to love herself as a messy, imperfect and absolutely enough human person.Book a session with Dani here!🔗 Connect with Dani Cooper!...2024-03-0557 min
Enneagram in Real LifeWhat to Do When Life Doesn’t Feel Authentic as an Enneagram 3 with Tyler ZachOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Tyler Zach, author and certified Enneagram coach with 18 years of experience coaching students, adults, couples, and business teams. He has grown a vibrant community of over 47K Enneagram enthusiasts on his Instagram account @GospelForEnneagram. He is writing a faith-based 40-day devotional for every Enneagram type which you can grab on Amazon.com. To test drive your type's book, download a free 5-day devotional on his website at https://www.tylerzach.com/free. 🔗 Connect with Tyler Z...2024-02-271h 01
Leaving Well: nonprofit leadership guidance for workplace exits and transitions33: Steph Barron-Hall, on Enneagram in the Workplace and Leaving WellStephanie Barron Hall (M.A. Organizational Communication & Leadership) is a speaker, Accredited Enneagram Practitioner, published author, and host of the Enneagram in Real Life Podcast. Stephanie has been facilitating personality-centric team development for years as an outside consultant for organizations ranging from small businesses to Fortune 100 companies. Stephanie's approach to the Enneagram is grounded in communication theory and emphasizes deep personal work through application, curiosity, and self-awareness. Main quote: What do I need from me? What does my family need? What does my future self need? So I think that's leaving...2024-01-1738 min
Enneagram in Real LifeRewire Your Brain for Less Stress and More Resilience with Dr. Aditi NerurkarOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Dr. Aditi Nerurkar, Harvard physician, nationally recognized stress expert, and author. She is also an in-demand multi-media personality, high profile medical correspondent, internationally renowned Fortune50 speaker, and podcaster. Uniquely fulfilling her original career ambition to be a journalist, Dr. Nerurkar has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, Oprah Magazine, Architectural Digest and Elle – in addition to being a columnist for Forbes and writing for The Atlantic.Dr. Nerurkar’s expertise on stress comes from working with thousands of patients throughout her years as a p...2024-01-161h 02
Enneagram in Real LifeWhy Small "t" Traumas Matter & How They Impact Our Lives with Dr. Meg ArrollOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Dr. Meg Arroll (PhD, CPsychol, CSci, AFBPsS, FHEA, MISCPAccred), a chartered psychologist, scientist and author with a specialist focus on behavioural psychology related to health and wellness, invisible/misunderstood illness and everyday trauma. Dr Meg has published widely in peer-reviewed journals including British Medical Journal (Open) and Medical Hypotheses, in addition to seven mainstream books for the public on topics ranging from chronic fatigue to emotional eating. Dr Meg works on a 1-2-1 basis with individuals, in corporate settings to improve health and performance and as...2024-01-0958 min
Enneagram in Real LifeWhen to Quit Your Job & How to Leave Well with Enneagram 8, Naomi HattawayOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Naomi Hattaway. Naomi is the CEO of 8th & Home, a consulting practice that combines affordable housing and homelessness prevention work, with the power of Leaving Well, a practice for individuals, organizations, and boards in periods of transition. Her practice of leadership and implementation of the Leaving Well concept combines strategic visioning, organizational development, and community care. She delivers a deep commitment to equitable practices, a willingness to have tough conversations, strong project management and facilitation skills, and compassion and generosity to every interaction and facet of her...2023-12-0548 min
Enneagram in Real LifeWhat to Do When Holidays are Hard with Jacqui AcreeOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Jacqui Acree. As a certified Advanced EFT (Tapping) Practitioner, Jacqui Acree works with overstimulated, high achieving women to turn down the dial on your stress response so you can actually enjoy the good already in your life...and maybe even let more in.Join Happyish Holidays! This is an affiliate link, so I earn a small commission if you purchase. This really helps support the podcast and it helps Jacqui track where her clients are coming from. ninetypes.co/happyish-holidays...2023-11-221h 11
Enneagram in Real LifeHow to Use the Enneagram in Your Marriage with Christa Hardin of Enneagram + MarriageOn this week’s episode of Enneagram IRL, we meet with Christa Hardin, MA, a relationship expert, author, as well as host of the popular Enneagram & Marriage Podcast. Christa has been working with and researching marriage for two decades, providing hope for couples who are struggling to find their light, love, and mission together in any season of relationship. Her most recent title, "The Enneagram in Marriage: Your Guide to Thriving Together in Your Unique Pairing," is out now from Baker Books!Grab her book here!🔗 Conne...2023-11-1454 minEnneagram in Real LifeWriting Advice for Each Enneagram TypeA while back, I shared an email about the top 5 things I learned while writing my last book (release date TBA!). Many of you asked for more writing tips for each Enneagram type. On this week’s episode, we’re tackling that topic! Writing can be hard. Here are a few tips for each Enneagram type to write (and finish) your next blog post, article, book, etc. Plus, I’ve tagged on some of my favorite advice at the end, too.You can also watch this video on YouTube...2023-11-0727 min
Evolving to Exceptional with Jessica TietjenNavigating Leadership Evolution: From “Parenting” to Partnering with Steph BarronBio:
Steph Barron is an accomplished leader with over 20 years of experience in Human Resources (HR) and a deep passion for fostering positive work environments. With her extensive knowledge and expertise in HR practices, Steph has emerged as a trusted professional in the field of employee well-being and psychological safety.
Throughout her career, she has held several key leadership roles in reputable organizations, where she successfully led numerous HR initiatives aimed at creating a culture of psychological safety. Her remarkable ability to understand the intricacies of human behavior and its impact on...2023-11-021h 02
Enneagram In LoveEnneagram Deep Dive on Love, Work, and Life w/ Steph Barron Hall (Type 3)In today's episode, I talk with Steph Barron Hall about the life of a Type 3. We discuss their strong drive to succeed and achieve in various aspects of life. Steph gives us insights into what motivates Type 3s and how it influences their relationships and stress levels. She also offers examples and advice on how different Enneagram Types can improve their relationships and communication by understanding themselves better. Stephanie Barron Hall (M.A. Organizational Communication & Leadership) is a speaker, certified Enneagram coach, author of the book, The Enneagram in Love: A Roadmap for Building and Strengthening Romantic...2023-10-2552 min