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Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerResponding To ICE Through The Eyes Of A 16 Year-Old StudentAfter spending an unusual amount of time discussing sports, Eddie and Steph welcome Louell to the pod to share her perspective as a young person navigating the world and actively trying to make it a better place for everyone (10:46). A junior in high school, Louell walks us through her early influences (shout out to her incredible mom!) and her work as a community organizer. Her values are deeply rooted in believing in the humanity of all people which led her to organize an Inclusivity Walkout at her school (28:57). The group shared their perspectives on the proposed ICE detention facility...
2026-02-0953 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerMs. Vanos Goes To Tallahassee — Three Takeaways From An Advocacy Trip To The State CapitalSteph and Eddie kick off the show discussing a local ICE protest, a special election victory in Texas, news that Ron DeSantis is now going to take federal money for taxpayer-funded vouchers, and watching her daughter give public comment.
We then move on to the heart of the show: Steph’s takeaways on a recent advocacy trip to our state’s capital, Tallahassee. We start with the fallout from the state’s taxpayer-funded voucher program (20:48), what it’s like in the room in her meetings with lawmakers (27:00), and the state’s response to Schools of Hope (33:25). Finally, Eddie lets...
2026-02-0249 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerAaron Parnas On Building A Platform With Authenticity, An Update On The Epstein Files, And His Take On The 2028 HopefulsAfter an emotional weekend, Eddie and Steph begin by addressing the murder of Alex Pretti and the ongoing occupation of ICE in Minneapolis. None of us know what comes next, but we hope for accountability of this lawless, reckless administration.
Then we get to our big interview: Aaron Parnas (10:45). We start by digging into how Aaron built such a large platform and what it says about the media, writ large. We asked Aaron how his perspective has changed since blowing up and what media consolidation is going to mean for him and the rest of the country (19:47). L...
2026-01-2641 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerHow We’re Still Fighting Back The Epidemic Of Gun Violence With Linda CoffinTo start off the show Steph and Eddie touched on the ICE kidnappings in Minneapolis, the potential impact of ICE in Orlando, an (attempted) banned book that came in front of OCPS, and a quick recap of Eddie’s improv show.
Then, we invited activist and all-around powerhouse Linda Coffin to join the podcast (14:47). Linda has spent years advocating for children and specifically to end the scourge of gun violence. We begin by running through some bills being reintroduced by Congressman (and former Extracurricular guest!) Maxwell Frost (17:25). Next, the crew delved into the impact of act...
2026-01-1954 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerA Former Leader Of The Venezuelan Student Protest Movement Reflects On Maduro's Ouster And Fighting Tyranny Here At HomeWelcome to a new year with Extracurricular! Eddie and Steph welcome 2026 and catch up on current events in public education and in Orange County. They then welcome Venezuelan American Jose Gamboa to the show (15:00). Jose recounts his childhood in La Guaira and how former President Nicolas Maduro rose to power following the death of Hugo Chavez (21:00). Jose shares some of his experiences as part of the student protest movement and then his journey to America (32:30). After living in America for almost ten years, Jose describes his reaction to learning about the United States’ capture of Maduro last Saturday morning an...
2026-01-121h 14Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerA Look Back On 2025: Awarding Our Roses, Buds, And Thorns—Plus A Few Confessions!It’s the end of the year! Steph and Eddie review 2025 by awarding some Roses, Buds, and Thorns—plus a few confessions! But before that, Steph touches recent school closures and a letter from the State Board of Education.
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2025-12-221h 01Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerHow The Hope Florida Scandal Is Even Worse Than You Think — With Jason GarciaIt’s time for some REAL journalism on the podcast. This week, Steph and Eddie welcome veteran independent journalist, Jason Garcia. We invited Jason to give us an overview of some of the most enraging scandals to come out of the DeSantis administration starting with Hope Florida (12:45). But things get more juicy—just a few days before recording the podcast, another shoe dropped with an incredible investigative piece from the Tampa Bay Times, which we spent some time digging through (25:13). Afterwards, we explore its impacts, why DeSantis was so desperate to beat Amendments 3 & 4, and then we touch on the $84 mill...
2025-12-151h 05Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie Geller"Even The Republicans In My District Are Outraged" — HCPS Board Member Jessica Vaughn On Schools Of Hope, Why Early Education Matters, And Whether She's Still Thinking About Running For GovernorThis week, our duo starts off by discussing Steph’s exploits at the FSBA (Florida School Board Association) Conference and who got booed during their speech. Eddie and Steph also share their (wildly differing) athletic exploits. Then, we get to Steph’s first solo interview (!) with Hillsborough County School Board member, Jessica Vaughn. Jessica and Steph follow up on a thread from a previous episode: Does Florida want public education to fail (20:09)? Then, on an incredibly related topic, they discuss the disaster that is Schools of Hope, and importantly, what it means when schools are under-enrolled (30:26). Jessica then addresses her...
2025-12-081h 01Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerReflections On Eight Decades In America And How We've Made Teachers The Enemy — With Richard GellerWe’re back after digesting our Thanksgiving dinner and ready to pod! Before getting into the interview, Steph and Eddie discuss the latest with school start times and where we think the community stands (8:40)—and then also a discussion on whether Trump is cooked (15:07).
After the initial chatter, we bring on Eddie’s favorite guest ever to join the pod—Eddie’s dad, Richard Geller (21:22). Born in the Silent Generation, Richard has seen a lot both in America and in Florida. We delved into his time as a history teacher, and then what he sees as the simil...
2025-12-0153 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie Geller"If We Don't Save Public Education Now, There Might Not Be Public Education In Five Years"Before getting to today's interview, our tenacious podcasters answer the burning question on everyone's mind: What is the Phoenix Declaration? Steph and Eddie share some thoughts about the Florida Board of Education’s recent adoption of this Declaration (5:40), followed by a warm welcome to Rebecca Thompson, a School Board Member in Broward County, Florida. Rebecca fills us in on the current state of affairs in Broward and the (12!) town halls she has recently hosted (12:55). She talks about what it means to live in a state that consistently handicaps public education and the efforts districts and boards are taking to en...
2025-11-1753 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerWhy The 2025 Elections Felt Different (In A Good Way) With Chris MitchellSteph and Eddie open the pod talking about a wide range of issues, from pumpkin dates, to whether yoga causes flat tires, to a brief explanation of Florida’s Sunshine Laws (7:55). They then welcome Chris Mitchell of Statecraft Media to the pod again to discuss his thoughts on the recent election (13:41). He noted that this was the first election in several years where candidates did not overly focus on President Trump’s actions and rhetoric and instead put forth solutions and a resonant vision for the future (25:43). They talked about what this may mean for Florida in 2026 (34:09) and the entr...
2025-11-101h 08Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerMcCarthyism In Florida: Dissecting The State’s New Anti-Communism StandardsThe government may be shut down but Steph and Eddie are still podding. This week, Steph and Eddie bring Stephana Ferrell to the pod (12:25). Stephana is the Director of Research & Insight at Florida Freedom to Read Project and a tireless public school advocate. Stephana was one of the first to flag the new Florida standards for teaching the evils of communism coming to public schools across Florida (18:01). The new standards have been called "propaganda" and a “rewriting” of history. After going through an overview of the new proposed standards and how they came into being, Steph outlines what can be d...
2025-11-0556 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerWhy Florida Won't Give Daryl Perritt Answers About His Son’s Death—The Tragedy Of Florida’s Free Kill LawEddie and Steph welcome Daryl Perritt to the pod this week to discuss Florida's "Free Kill" law. This carve out in Florida's Wrongful Death Act limits the ability of family members to file lawsuits for medical negligence, or malpractice, for adults who are 25 years or older and do not have a spouse of children. Daryl begins by sharing a bit about himself and the business he and his son, Cameron, have run for over a decade (6:07). He then talks about Cameron's medical history and the events surrounding his last visit to the hospital (10:43). They discuss the history and broader...
2025-10-2746 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie Geller“A Hostile Takeover Of Community-Owned Property” — How Schools Of Hope Intend To Overtake Our Public SchoolsEddie and Steph welcome Liz Barker, School Board Member for Sarasota County Public Schools, to the pod. The topic of conversation is the sneakily named Schools of Hope: the latest rendition of privately owned and operated schools funded by our public tax dollars. Liz begins by defining Schools of Hope (20:17) and shares more information from her recent Opinion Piece in the Herald Tribune titled, Sarasota schools could become rent-free spaces for others. We must act now. (30:07) They discuss the ramifications of Schools of Hope being allowed to co-locate in any of our traditional schools, not just the schools that...
2025-10-1358 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie Geller"They Know Who They Are." A Parent's Perspective On What We’re Teaching Our KidsIt’s our post-Yom Kippur edition of Extracurricular and Steph and Eddie are ready to atone (but mostly Eddie).
Steph and Eddie welcome an activist, OCPS parent, and dear friend: Elly Kennedy (14:30). Elly has been supporting students in and out of the classroom since her now-high school daughter was in kindergarten. We begin by explaining the work Elly did to get her a Volunteer of the Year award and why it matters to find the students that the system is missing. Then, we dive into how a parent sees what OCPS is (and isn’t) doing for our s...
2025-10-061h 24Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerHunger Is A Solvable Problem And This Organzation Is Doing Everything They Can To Solve ItIt's Stephanie's birthday! We celebrate by complaining about food and a certain car manufacturer that shall not be named.
And if that wasn't enough to be excited for, we interview two folks from Second Harvest Food Bank of Central Florida, Briana Rebello and Erika Spence to talk about food insecurity and the work Second Harvest does (11:11). We dig into why the work of feeding our neighbors is more important than ever (17:04), some not-so-obvious effects from the Big, Ugly Bill (23:15), and the work Second Harvest does in schools and why preventing stigma is such a key part of t...
2025-09-2948 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerThe Silencing Of Jimmy Kimmel, Testifying In Front Of Congress, And RFK Jr. SightingsWhat a week! Eddie and Steph recap their time in Washington, D.C., this week including Steph’s testimony at the Economic Growth, Energy Policy, and Regulatory Affairs Subcommittee where she urged the members to invest in public schools, and Eddie’s unexpected sighting at Compass Coffee (3:40). They then discuss the controversy surrounding the discontinuation of Jimmy Kimmel Live! and implications to the First Amendment (18:30). Our resident comedian (Eddie) shares his take on the historical role of comedians in authoritarian regimes, and Steph and Eddie talk about the culture of fear takeover that is being felt from boardrooms to nonp...
2025-09-2246 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerThe Human Cost Of Repealing Florida’s Vaccine Mandates With Dr. Jaime CandeloriThis week, Steph and Eddie begin with some unusually substantive banter. Steph starts off by addressing a recent letter from the State Board of Education threatening teachers and calling into question their First Amendment rights in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination (4:15). Afterwards, Eddie rants about OCPS’s decision to join in the appeal with the Florida State of Board of Education.
But then they get to the heart of the podcast: Making Florida Actually Healthy with Dr. Jaime Candelori. We start by getting Dr. Candelori’s take on Florida’s intention to repeal vaccine mandates, what actu...
2025-09-151h 16Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie Geller"Why Are You Suing My Girlfriend?" An Interview With The Plaintiff In Florida's Surprise Book Ban RulingIn his solo podcast debut, Eddie asks Judi Hayes why she is suing Steph (13:02)! Judi Hayes, a public education advocate and mom of two OCPS students, is the Plaintiff in a lawsuit that sues the State Board of Education and the Orange County and Volusia County School Boards, which includes Steph in her official role (not in her unofficial role as a co-host of this podcast).
Judi provides some answers, discusses the importance of having a broad array of books that serve all students on school library shelves, and describes how the State is trying to redefine...
2025-09-0851 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerAfter The Pulse Crosswalk, "What Else Is Next?" Commissioner Shan Rose On The Destruction Of Home Rule And Much MoreThis week, Steph and Eddie bring on Orlando City Commissioner, Shan Rose. Shan was just elected in 2024 but has been working on making Orlando better for many years prior. As we like to do, we began by giving Commissioner Rose an opportunity to explain what she does for the city (13:20). Shan explained why safety is her number one priority but how that doesn't always look the same for every constituent (16:20). We then dove into the ongoing Pulse crosswalk controversy, and how an under discussed aspect is the loss of home rule (25:53). That brought us into how federal directives attacking...
2025-09-021h 01Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerRep. Maxwell Frost On Whether Dems Are Meeting The Moment, What The GOP Is Saying Behind Closed Doors, And Why He's Optimistic For The FutureThis week, Steph and Eddie had the pleasure of welcoming a dear friend: Congressman Maxwell Alejandro Frost. If you haven't heard of Rep. Frost, he's one of the most exciting up-and-coming Democrats in the entire nation, and he just so happens to be the Representative for District 10 where Eddie an Steph reside. We start by asking the big question: Are Democrats meeting the moment (16:28)? Rep. Frost then gives us an insight into what Republicans are saying behind close doors and why they're not speaking out (32:14). Finally, after discussing the GOP plan for a national taxpayer funded voucher program (45:32), we...
2025-08-261h 01Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerCommissioner Kelly Semrad On What It’s Like To Stand Up To ICE And Ron DeSantisWe did something wild this week—we took our podcast in front of a live audience at the Monday Scaries show at City Arts in Downtown Orlando. What it lacks in audio quality, it makes up for in charm! That said, if you want to skip the less-than-crisp audio, you can jump to 9:16.
This week, we sat down with Orange County Commissioner, Kelly Semrad. Kelly recently stood up to the DeSantis administration by voting AGAINST a transportation agreement between Orange County and ICE (14:24). Kelly explains what went into that decision and how it distracts from the actual wo...
2025-08-191h 08Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerWhy Florida Can Pay $9,000 For Uniforms But Can’t Fund Its Public Schools—Understanding The Original Sin Of Our Education WoesExtracurricular welcomes a dear friend—and Steph’s former campaign manager—Scott Hottenstein. Scott is a former teacher, former candidate, public education advocate and now campaign manager & consultant. With all those hats, we let Scott walk us through why public education matters (9:44). That leads into a deep discussion on public education funding, why it’s so paltry here in Florida, and why it matters so much (16:50). We then bring some threads together to reemphasize the power of public education in our politics and how candidates should be fighting for schools on the campaign trail (38:07). Finally, Eddie gets the goods and asks...
2025-08-0553 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerHow Influence Really Works: A Conversation With A (Sometimes) LobbyistEddie and Steph open the episode chatting about the entry into their video era. They then welcome local senior policy advisor, Rachael Kobb from Central Florida Public Affairs, to the pod. Rachael works with some of Orlando's great leaders, and she shares how she worked her way up from a secretary at Orlando Health to representing many clients in Orange County in a wide variety of ways (13:55). She talks about a lobbyist's relationship with elected officials and the implications of term limits (20:15), and shares what a day in her life looks like (23:10). We discuss the power dynamics in Tallahassee...
2025-07-2850 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerA Mid-Season Progress Report On The Work Of An OCPS Board MemberIn front of the camera lens for the first time during this show, Eddie and Steph open the pod talking about their week including their takes on the Netflix show, Adolescence (spoiler alert at 15:30-22:00). They get into the podcast and Steph shares her mid-season/mid-year progress report as a new School Board Member (22:00). They discuss highlights from the first few months (25:07) and Steph shares her perspectives on what she has learned (30:50). They then discuss her areas of focus in the upcoming school year and her hope for parents (34:28). Finally, Eddie admits he’s been influenced and shares his ne...
2025-07-2149 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerWhy Authentic Candidates Matter More Than Ever: A Conversation With One Of Florida’s Most Successful Political ConsultantsThis week’s conversation brings aboard the founder of Statecraft Media, Chris Mitchell. Chris is a consultant and insider—words we successfully put in his mouth—who begins by telling what, exactly, a political consultant really does (10:55). But beyond that, Chris lays out how to be a successful candidate and why authenticity is such a huge part of that. Afterward, Chris gave us some unfiltered takes on the early front runner for the Democratic nominee for Florida’s governor, David Jolly, and why it’s emblematic of a state party in disarray (32:25). Then, Steph and Chris then find their own groove...
2025-07-141h 22Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerSen. Carlos Guillermo Smith Explains Why Being Denied Entry To "Alligator Alcatraz" Was UnlawfulEddie and Steph welcome FL Senator Carlos Guillermo Smith mere days after making national headlines when he and a handful of other Democratic lawmakers were denied entry to Florida's immigrant detention camp, "Alligator Alcatraz." Sen. Smith walks us through the myriad ways that this camp is a dangerous grift and what happened when he showed up at the camp (8:55). Afterwards, we take a brighter turn as Sen. Smith explains how he—a lawmaker in the minority—got his anaphylaxis bill passed and turned into law (33:50). Finally, what is the TDT and why is Orange County uniquely hamstrung when it come...
2025-07-071h 04Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerThe Students Have Spoken: Mamdani, Censorship, AI, Class Rank, and MoreHope Adelson and Brady Warren Graham are two bright, young OCPS high schoolers who joined Steph and Eddie to discuss a wide rage of topics. They shared their excitement over Zohan Mamdani’s win in NYC and what Democrats need to replicate (15:45). We then delved into education issues, including what it’s like to lose a teacher, censorship, and the impact of taxpayer-funded vouchers (26:24). Hope and Brady also shared their divergent takes on AI in schools (50:51) and whether or not we should be eliminating class rank (1:08:37). Oh, and Eddie drops an F-bomb if you want to cover your ears (50:15)!
2025-06-301h 20Extracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerRep. Anna V. Eskamani on the Unseen Dysfunction in Florida Politics, What the Democratic Party Needs Next, and How She Finds Comfort in ChaosThe podcast welcomes an old friend but new podcast guest: Rep. Dr. Anna V. Eskamani (8:35). Anna gives us a debrief on this most recent legislative session--with an additional focus on education and a massive expansion of charter schools (27:07). Then, Anna talks about using her platform to do the most good (34:52). Finally, we round out by digging into what keeps Anna going during her downtime (41:35) and how she’s thinking about her run for mayor in 2027(54:14).
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2025-06-2359 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie Geller“It’s about governance through fear." Steph Explains How The State Board Of Education Used Intimidation To Impose Book Bans Across FloridaSteph and Eddie start off by talking about their experience at the No Kings Protest—plus Steph has some notes on video formatting. After, Steph explains exactly what happened at the Florida State Board of Education and what it means for Florida (10:15). Finally, Steph walks through the disappointment and fear that overtook the latest OCPS board meeting and how it led to books being pulled off library shelves (26:45).
2025-06-1642 min
Democracy and EducationConfronting Extremism in FloridaFlorida is the birthplace of Moms for Liberty. It is also the state where the governor has spent millions of dollars to elect extremist members of school boards around the state who have banned books, fired superintendents, and in general wreaked havoc on local school systems.In the face of that, communities around the state have come together to elect pro-public education school board members.In this episode, Karin Chenoweth talks with three who won in 2024.· Stephanie Vanos, who defeated a Moms for Liberty candidate in Orange County...
2025-06-0949 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie Geller“I’m very worried about the midterms.” Sean Shaw on 2026, the duties of a DNC member and what he’s hearing at the barbershop.Steph and Eddie begin by discussing two equally dramatic events: obtaining a Switch 2 this week and the recent Florida Board of Education meeting. They then welcome former member of the FL House of Representatives, Sean Shaw, and talk about David Jolly's entry into the race for Governor (7:25), the controversy at the DNC involving David Hogg (35:20), and how Sean predicted Trump's win based on barbershop banter (43:35).
2025-06-0955 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerLet's Be Skeptical About Charter Schools! Plus, The 10 Commandments In Classrooms. And The Newest Debate Among DemsCongrats OCPS grads! Steph gushes about the graduations she's had the privilege to attend, then we investigate whether Eddie is getting enough protein and the latest on the FL budget process. Next, we get a 101 on charter schools from Steph and why not is all as rosy as it appears (12:22). Then, Texas is on the march to bring the Christian Nationalism into the classroom (27:05), and finally, we delve into the age-old question: Abundance or Anti-Corruption? (34:50)
2025-06-0250 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie Geller"The Largest Upward Transfer of Wealth in American History" — A deeper dive into Trump's B*g B**utiful B*llWe have a new name: Extracurricular! After doing a bit of a debrief on their week, Steph and Eddie dive back into Trump's B*g B**utiful B*ll and go over some of the truly wretched details (9:05). Then they talk a bit about the frustrations of communicating as a Democrat (21:35) before leaving to go see the new Mission: Impossible movie.
2025-05-2732 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerThe Secret To Running A Successful County Party In Florida with Samuel Vilchez SantiagoOur first guest! Steph and Eddie sit down with the Chair of the Orange County Democratic Party, Samuel Vilchez Santiago, to discuss the secret sauce of Orange County (7:45). Samuel also goes into detail about how the Democratic Party needs to embrace immigrants in the age of Trump if they want to win elections (38:03).
Sam's Instagram: @samuelvilchezsantiago
Steph's Instagram: @VoteVanos
Eddie's Instagram: @gellered
Sam in Teen Vogue: "Democrats Have Lost Ground With Immigrants. Under Trump, They Need to Fight for Them"
2025-05-1949 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerHow We Can Save Medicaid, Wondering If The U.S. Has Given Up on Children’s Learning, and What Is The Vibes Pocket?Steph and Eddie recount a busy weekend and explain what a “Vibes Pocket” is. But much more importantly, they explain the plan to gut Medicaid, how it impacts our schools, and what we can do to stop it (13:38). Then they dig into a provocative article from the New York Times entitled, “Has America Given Up on Children’s Learning?"(22:57) Lastly, they dig into Dr. Oz and the MAHA movement (32:32).
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2025-05-1242 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerCounting Down The Top (or Bottom!) Three Bills From Florida’s Legislative Session.Stephanie digs into some recent news about teacher layoffs (3:13) and then gives a quick update on the funding fight for AP, IB, CTE, AICE, and Dual Enrollment classes (6:37). Afterwards, Eddie and Steph count down their top (or bottom?) three bills from this most recent Florida legislative session (9:54). Lastly, Eddie and Steph debate the merits of political ambition and whether that’s a good thing, a bad thing, or just a thing (28:28).
2025-05-0735 minExtracurricular with Stephanie Vanos and Eddie GellerWhat It's Like When A Book Ban Gets to the School Board. Plus, Florida Funding Cuts and Trump's Sagging Poll Numbers.On our inaugural episode, Steph walks through the first time a book challenge made it to the Orange County School Board (7:23), then we discuss the funding challenges facing Florida schools coming down from the Florida legislature (21:17) and finally how we should interpret Trump's sinking poll numbers (26:28).
2025-04-2936 min
GLOW CREStephanie Wiggins on Confidence as a SuperpowerGLOW CRE hosts Pharrah Jackson and Pamela van Os chat with Stephanie Wiggins, Managing Director and Head of Agency production at PGIM. Stephanie shares what inspires her about the "new generation" coming up in CRE industry, and what motivates her to do TODAY what could be done tomorrow. You don't want to miss Episode 3 of GLOW CRE!Reach out to your hosts Pharrah Jackson (pharrah.jackson@greyco.com) and Pamela van Os (pamela.vanos@greyco.com) with feedback or suggestions on the GLOW CRE podcast.Learn more about the GLOW CRE podcast, sponsored by Greystone.
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