Tasha Huo & Josh Hallman - Podcast Details

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Act Two PodcastAre You Excited?: July 2025 EditionHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman talk about which July Summer movies they're excited about, and give some interesting behind-the-scenes Screenwriting tidbits about how some of these movies got made. TWIW: Tasha is having an IP crisis / Do you need a feature sample to meet at feature companies? / Josh's run-in with a Hollywood icon Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2025-07-2845 min

Act Two PodcastWhere to Spend Time: IP or Spec?Inspired by a post from Screenwriter Zack Stentz, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss whether it's a smarter career move to work on IP or to put your head down and write your own spec. They discuss the realities of what it means to work on IP vs. Specs, their own experiences working in both markets, and the consequences (both good & bad) of working on both. TWIW: What Tasha's manager actually meant when she gave that "boring" note. / First RED SONJA trailer is out! Tasha's first produced movie comes out in theaters AUG 15th! / For...2025-07-1444 min

Act Two PodcastAnimated to Live Action Adaptation: LILO & STITCH and HTTYD (Part 1)Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss the live action adaptation of LILO & STITCH, breaking down writer and director choices that helped launch it into massive numbers at the box office and that, in these podcasters opinions, makes it the most successful live action Disney adaptation yet! TWIW: Josh thinks he can be a detective after writing one, and Tasha gets notes that she's a boring writer. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2025-06-2345 min

Act Two PodcastWhen Life Happens, How to Keep WritingHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman have just been side-lined by sicknesses and Tasha is recently back from a month on the road. It's time to talk about how to keep writing during unexpected obstacles. Inertia in the right direction is important, but Life can get in the way. Let's talk practical, real ways to keep going during tough times. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2025-06-1639 min

Act Two PodcastRE-RELEASE: How to Stay in Screenwriting ShapeHosts Tasha Huo & Josh Hallman discuss a blog post by Final Draft about 5 Ways to stretch your Screenwriting muscles every day so you never lose writing momentum, even on days you don't feel like writing. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414Beg 2025-06-0937 min

Act Two PodcastTop Tips for Aspiring ScreenwritersHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discover a list of top tips for aspiring Screenwriters, according to the New York Film Academy. They disagree fundamentally with some tips, and expound on the practicality of others in the real world. There is advice for up & coming Screenwriters everywhere. Tasha and Josh help translate that advice into real-life scenarios and uses. TWIW: Outlining as a surprising tool for a writer who doesn't outline Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2025-05-2641 min

Act Two PodcastA Writer's Tools: The Oversized SketchpadHost Tasha Huo rants about her oversized sketchpad and the different ways she's used it to help break multiple script ideas. She answers listener questions on using the sketchpad, and, really, just won't shut up about the sketchpad. TWIW: What would Tasha's greatest betrayal of Josh be? / Don't sleep on The Accountant and The Accountant 2 Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2025-05-1931 min

Act Two PodcastKnow Your StoryHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman dig into the importance of: Knowing Your Story. As screenwriters, we all get notes that make us question everything - is the story different now? Is it better? Or just... different? Tasha and Josh break down knowing your characters and ways to stay grounded when the note floodgates open. Plus: Are You Excited?! Questions or comments? Hit us up at ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist. 2025-05-0540 min

Act Two PodcastHow to Advocate for YourselfHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss ways to advocate for yourself, whether you have reps or not, and the importance of thinking of yourself as the CEO of your own company of one. TWIW: the new Nicholls Fellowship setup / Josh's insane Monday morning that ended with a 911 call Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2025-04-0851 min

Act Two PodcastHow to Get Repped (REPOST)Getting repped can seem impossible, but the good news is there are actually many different paths to representation. In this repost from S4, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman break down what worked for them in their own careers and what they've seen work for other writers. TWIW: Josh finished a pilot with his wife and celebrated with Taylor Swift, Tasha celebrates an Act Two mentee getting repped! Plus, how long does it take to write a feature screenplay anyway? Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Pa...2025-04-0143 min

Act Two Podcast2025 Goals (Part 1)In the final episode of Season 5, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman talk through their 2024 writing goals to see how many they achieved and what lessons can be learned from their failures to prevent a repeat next year. They also list their 2025 writing goals in prep for their New Year's episode... TWIW: Specs are back! / Movies are back! / Josh's daughter makes them both cry / Tasha's emotional pitch Follow us @ACTTWOWRITERS Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@Gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2024-12-3143 min

Act Two PodcastThe Holiday Edition: Blacklist Winners, Holiday Gifts, Staying ProductiveHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss how to survive the holidays as a writer while staying productive, the best holiday gifts to get writers, and how to shop for those pesky managers and agents of yours. TWIW: the Blacklist winners were announced, and Tasha & Josh have some favorites; movie-watching etiquette disaster during Interstellar; Tasha has two very different kinds of pitches in the same week, what does that look like? Plus another installment of WOULD YOU RATHER? Follow us @ACTTWOWRITERS Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@Gmail.com Edited by...2024-12-1647 min

Act Two PodcastMailbag: Call to Action vs. Inciting Incident, Adapting IP, and more!Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman answer your questions, including - what is the difference between the "Call to Action" and the "Inciting Incident", how do you avoid common pitfalls in adapting IP, what are the do's and don'ts for recent film school grads, and how did Tasha go about choosing the emotional throughline in her show Tomb Raider: The Legend of Lara Croft? Follow us @ACTTWOWRITERS Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@Gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist 2024-11-1147 min

Act Two PodcastTOMB RAIDER Q&A with Showrunner Tasha HuoOctober is TOMB RAIDER: THE LEGEND OF LARA CROFT month! Co-host and Showrunner/Executive Producer, Tasha Huo, is answering listener questions about the show, releasing October 10 on Netflix. Tasha is fielding any and all questions about process, craft, specific questions around scenes, dialogue, moments, and more! If you ever wanted to ask a showrunner how the sausage is made, now's your chance! In this first installment, Tasha addresses overall questions about how she got the job, how she handled oversight of such a beloved IP, her approach to the IP and specific characters, and more! Q...2024-10-0750 min

Act Two PodcastBeing Flexible without Compromising,As screenwriters, we work in a collaborative medium. But we also need to be the arbiters of great storytelling and are hired for our creative and unique visions. We work with other writers, producers, actors and directors, all of whom have opinions and thoughts that may conflict with your own. How do you captain the ship (script) while also respecting their input? Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss! TWIW: Josh went to the Emmys! And is writing a difficult sport on the body? Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by th...2024-09-1747 min

Act Two Podcast(Don't) Write What You KnowHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss the oft used (and incorrect) advice to writers of "Write what you know." Instead, they argue you should write anything you f***ing want! But if you do, make sure it is believable and well-researched, and Tasha and Josh give some examples from their own jobs where research has both served and hindered their writing. They address questions like How much research is too much? At what point in the process should you research? And how do you research effectively? Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited b...2024-08-2039 min

Act Two PodcastMailbag: How to Write Professional Dialogue, How to Write Different Genres, and more!Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman field email questions from listeners, including ways to better improve your dialogue, how to think about a "high-concept" idea, and what their process is when they approach different and distinct genres, like a Western vs. Sci-Fi, etc. TWIW: Beverly Hills Cop Axel F, Longlegs, Ryan Reynolds' sacrifices on Deadpool, and how Tasha figured out how to find time for reading. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2024-07-2242 min

Act Two PodcastTWIW - Being an Authentic Writer, Are Managers Staying Away from New Clients?, Beverly Hills Cop, and More!Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss their This Week in Writings, including a story from Josh about pitching a father-son story and the personal feedback he got in return, Tasha's meeting with her manager that transformed her working methods, an LA Times article saying Management is dead but is it really?, and what to do if you want to write a biopic but don't have the life rights? Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2024-07-1640 min

Act Two PodcastThe Keys to a Successful (and long) Screenwriting CareerHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman break down all the many skills required of a Screenwriter to have a long-lasting career and not just a one-hit wonder. Spoiler alert: it's not just about great writing. TWIW: Tasha has a breakthrough with AI / Is theater popcorn a meal replacement? Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2024-07-0253 min

Act Two PodcastTWIW & the Act Two Mixer AnnouncementThe Act Two Mixer is fast approaching, and hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss what to expect from the event and gain more from your writing community. TWIW: Can you send out an old version of a new script to different producers? / An awkward general and how to handle. / Josh watched UNFROSTED and has thoughts. / How editing footage is actually a writing skill. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2024-05-1331 min

Act Two PodcastInternal Dialogue in Screenwriting - Do or Don't?Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman take on the hotly debated topic amongst Screenwriters of whether to include a character's Internal Dialogue in action descriptions, or simply write a blueprint for the camera (as we are taught in film school). Using examples from successful spec scripts that have sold and their own scripts, Tasha and Josh break down the benefits of adding Internal Dialogue and why it can work. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2024-04-2240 min

Act Two PodcastSecret to the Spec Sale: Interview with Daniel Kunka (Retake)Tasha has lost her voice so this is a Retake: Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman talk with spec master Daniel Kunka to discuss his latest script: LIFT. Kunka’s spec created a frenzy that resulted in him teaming up with Netflix, Simon Kinberg, and Matt Reeves. The Act Two Podcast loves (LOVES) specs, and it was great to have Kunka offer inspiration while sharing his insight. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com -- Edited by Paul Lundquist 2024-03-111h 10

Act Two PodcastThe Agent Series with Mark Hartogsohn: What is a Lit Agent and How to Get One?Host Tasha Huo brings on her Gersh agent, Mark Hartogsohn, for the first in a series designed to help Screenwriters navigate what it means to get an Agent and maximize your working relationship once you have an Agent. In this introductory installment, Tasha and Josh discuss how Mark became a Hollywood agent, what it means to be a Lit Agent for Screen and TV Writers, and how he goes about finding new clients. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2024-02-2756 min

Act Two PodcastFireside Chat: Manager-Writer Conflict and the Problem of the Stubborn WriterHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman take you through a Fireside Chat of real-life stories of working Screenwriters, including real hurdles, obstacles and situations that professional Screenwriters have come up against and what to do in those situations. TWIW: Are you too old to start your Screenwriting career? / Why you shouldn't copyright your scripts. / Tasha & Josh finished breaking their spec, what next? / Is the Apple Vision Pro going to change Screenwriting? / The value of traditional weekly-released TV shows. / What is the tone of the new Mr. & Mrs. Smith TV show? Questions / Co...2024-02-1249 min

Act Two PodcastTaking an Idea to OutlineWhere ideas come from and then how to turn that into an actual movie or TV show is THE hardest part of being a writer, and one of the most-asked questions between writers: "How did you come up with that?" So this episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman break down in detail how they went from Idea to Outline for their new Murder Mystery spec. TWIW: Tasha's unexpected self-sabotage moment / To reference other movies in your action description, or not to? / Some new thoughts on pitch language Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gm...2024-01-2945 min

Act Two PodcastGetting Comfortable with Feeling UncomfortableHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss all the ways a Screenwriter feels uncomfortable in their day to day working lives, and how they tackle those feelings when they come up, whether it be a Pitch, a General Meeting, or discussing difficult ideas in their scripts. TWIW: How Act Two's first Patreon Live Q&A went, Tasha's Screenwriting nightmare, Short Form content and how difficult it is to crack. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2024-01-2335 min

Act Two PodcastHow to Combat (and Defeat) Imposter SyndromeWe all feel it. That voice in our head telling us we are Imposters and someone will finally figure out we don't know how to write, pitch or create stories. Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss what their own Imposter Syndrome looks like and how they have managed to not only combat it, but in some cases, completely defeat it. TWIW: Is Barbie an "adapted" or "original" screenplay? / Tasha is watching Pokemon! / How to get over rambling and apologizing while pitching / Where ideas come from can be so surprising! Questions / Com...2024-01-1553 min

Act Two PodcastHow to Nail a General or Rep MeetingHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss what a General Meeting is and how to impress once you're in one. They also discuss why reps are key, but not imperative, to a Screenwriting career, and how to meet with reps if you are taking meetings with Agents and Managers. TWIW: 22 Jump Street's surprising improv scene, The importance and beauty of listening to others on set, and Josh & Tasha list their Top 5 favorite movies of 2023 (which may surprise you). Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2024-01-0849 min

Act Two PodcastFilmmaking Tips from James Mangold (LOGAN)Hosts Tasha Huo & Josh Hallman discuss filmmaking tips we can learn from writer-director James Mangold (LOGAN, INDIANA JONES & THE DIAL OF DESTINY). TWIW: Is Harry Potter just a magical Mission Impossible movie? And how do you combat "spec boredom" so you can finish your script instead of move on to a new idea? Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2023-12-1144 min

Act Two PodcastWhere to Find InspirationThere’s no wrong way to be inspired, but finding inspiration can oftentimes prove elusive. Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss various techniques they use when they need a burst of creative inspiration, be it in nature, nostalgia, or an engaging museum plaque. TWIW: Josh and Tasha fear AI becoming a creative crutch, but admit that it can be a helpful tool when creating perfect imagery for look books (but shh! don’t tell anybody!!). Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist 2023-10-1620 min

Act Two PodcastThe Importance of Self-CareTake a break! Eat dinner with your family! Hangout with that friend! We promise you’ll still get your writing done. In this episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss the importance of self-care in a post-strike world, and the various strategies they use to relieve the ever-present pressure of work work work. Step one: acknowledging that you need self-care in the first place! TWIW: Josh experiences notes in real time. Tasha feels pressure to make her next spec definitive while also finishing her short story five years in the making. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gm...2023-10-0927 min

Act Two PodcastThe Essential Steps to Writing a Pilot OutlineWriting a Pilot is one of the more difficult undertakings of a Screenwriter. It must set up an entire series without revealing too much of the series journey, engage the audience with questions, but not leave enough questions to be confusing. A great pilot starts with a great outline. In this episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss how TV Pilots are broken and outlined in a professional writer's room, and how to take those lessons with you to your own personal pilot process. TWIW: the Writer's Strike is over! A new series is co...2023-10-0254 min

Act Two PodcastScreenwriting Tips from INDIANA JONESJumping off an article posted by NoFilmSchool.com, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss what Screenwriting imperatives one can learn from dissecting INDIANA JONES movies, including everything from how to introduce characters in an impactful way and how to keep your story moving with an active protagonist. TWIW: Josh was told his characters sound like him, so what is voice and how do you find it in a character? Tasha's TMNT reactions. Tasha's takeaway re: simple storytelling vs. complex storytelling after writing for TV. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edi...2023-08-1446 min

Act Two PodcastFLASH and INDIANA JONESAs huge genre fans, hosts Tasha Huo & Josh Hallman discuss their thoughts on FLASH and INDIANA JONES: DIAL OF DESTINY. *Spoilers definitely ahead, beware!* TWIW: Quiet Writers vs. Loud Writers in a TV Writer's Room, that time Josh saw INCEPTION with Christopher Nolan, and NO HARD FEELINGS (with Jennifer Lawrence) Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414Beg 2023-07-1055 min

Act Two PodcastWhat is Arbitration?What is Arbitration, how does it work, and what does a Screenwriter have to do when it happens to them? Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss Tasha's recent (and first!) arbitration experience trying to retain credit on one of her features, breaking the process down from start to finish. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414Beg 2023-06-0650 min

Act Two PodcastHow to Stay in Screenwriting ShapeHosts Tasha Huo & Josh Hallman discuss a blog post by Final Draft about 5 Ways to stretch your Screenwriting muscles every day so you never lose writing momentum, even on days you don't feel like writing. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414Beg 2023-05-2237 min

Act Two PodcastTWIW: Mario, 3 Writer Personalities, and LA Writer Meet-UpsHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss the MARIO movie, 3 different kinds of note-taking writer personalities, the hopeful future of movie theaters, and Josh's first visit to a David H. Steinberg Writer Meet-Up. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414Beg 2023-05-0149 min

Act Two PodcastHow to Write a HeistHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss how they go about writing heists. Having written a few heists between them, both for film and TV, Tasha and Josh break down the first steps they take to organize and plot their heist before going to script. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414Beg 2023-04-0435 min

Act Two PodcastSecuring IP, General Meetings, and Pitching! (Mailbag)Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman take questions... your questions! We cover some of Tasha's favorite subjects: Intellectual Property and Pitching. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-11-2954 min

Act Two PodcastTWIW: Stealing from other Movies, and Getting Unstuck in RevisionsIn This Week in Writing, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss when stealing from other movies and shows makes sense, what the difference is between "stealing" and plagiarism, and how Tasha and Josh are currently rewriting their Act Twos. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-11-1539 min

Act Two PodcastThe Romance EpisodeTasha's getting married! So this week, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman talk about love in the movies. What are their favorite romantic films, and why they make the cut from a writing perspective? Let's talk about love! Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-10-0944 min

Act Two Podcast8 Sequence Story StructureHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman go through their own Three Act exposure therapy adventure as they talk through a popular structure tool for Screenwriters - The 8 Sequence Story Structure - that at once excites them, aggravates them, then inspires them. Script Structure is something all Screenwriters have to learn and think about to have successful careers. In TV, structure is often as precise as knowing when your turning points are going to be down to the minute. In features, knowing what page number your story takes new turns is key to crafting your script a...2022-09-1938 min

Act Two PodcastThis Week in WritingThis Week in Writing, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss the Emmys, what makes a script unique, Don't Worry Darling, how Tasha broke through a new original spec, and how to juggle multiple projects for a more successful career. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-09-1243 min

Act Two PodcastThis Week in WritingIn This Week in Writing, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss Only Murders in the Building and why episode hooks are important, the ending of Nope and how/if it works, one of Josh's projects that has come back years later, and how Minority Report is a master class in world-building exposition. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-09-0544 min

Act Two PodcastThis Week in WritingFrom how Tasha reads samples as a Showrunner and how this has influenced her writing - to - Writer's Block, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss their This Week in Writing. Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-06-2740 min

Act Two Podcast5 Must-Haves for Writing Action SequencesScreenwriters Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss Screencraft's 5 Must-Haves for Writing Action Sequences and how to apply these must-haves to your own writing in a practical way, as well as how to avoid common missteps in action writing. TWIW: Tasha's life gets turned upside down in the best way by their previous Work/Life Balance episode, and a real-life action sequence issue that came up for Tasha in TOMB RAIDER. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-05-2344 min

Act Two Podcast4 Common Notes and How to Revise ThemHosts Tasha Huo & Josh Hallman discuss the 4 most common big-picture notes they receive (and are currently addressing in their own scripts), and how to approach revisions effectively. TWIW: How to choose what IP to adapt. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-05-0242 min

Act Two PodcastTony Gilroy’s 7 Steps to Writing an OriginalHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss the BAFTA lecture series from Tony Gilroy (ROGUE ONE, BOURNE Trilogy, MICHAEL CLAYTON), where he discusses his 7 Steps on how he writes an original screenplay. They break down each step, what it means, and how to use it practically in your own writing. TWIW: Actors who don't want to be vulnerable, Josh's life-changing encounter with a waiter/screenwriter, Using babies to create tension in your writing. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-04-1853 min

Act Two PodcastHow We Create CharactersIn this episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss in detail how they start creating characters for their stories, as well as a This Week in Writing about a new way Tasha has learned to write action description, and Josh's thoughts on the structure of the action classic, SPEED. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-04-0448 min

Act Two PodcastMacGuffins: To Use Or Not To Use?Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss all things MacGuffins! One of Josh's absolute favorite things, but they're sometimes looked at as a cheat in Screenplays -- What are they? When should you use them? Are they cheating? When don't they work? Did we mention that Josh loves MacGuffins? Questions / Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the GREAT Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-01-1739 min

Act Two PodcastNew Year, New Writing GoalsSeason 3 is here! Welcome to 2022. Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman talk about setting writing goals and how to manage them. The beginning of the year is a great time to map out how you want things to go, it's easy (and good) to get overly ambitious with your goals. We talk about the practical ways you can approach everything. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2022-01-0253 min

Act Two PodcastTaking A Break Over The Break?It's the final episode of 2021! Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman wonder if writers should take a break from writing over the holidays. Should we recharge or power through? Sit back, relax, and enjoy the end of season 2... Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-12-2625 min

Act Two PodcastThe Setup: Home Alone vs. Home Sweet Home AloneHome Alone has a perfect setup, and Home Sweet Home Alone is probably a lot better than you think. Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman dive into the beginnings of both movies to discuss character, plot, and how small moments turn to big things. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-12-2021 min

Act Two PodcastThe Breakdown: DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE (Better than the OG?)Which DIE HARD movie is your favorite? Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman will go to their graves believing DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE is the best in the series, but here they go up against Special Guest David Levinson who goes to the mat for The OG DIE HARD. Who’s right, who’s wrong? Watch the movie then follow along as they break down the three acts of DIE HARD 3 to find out what its secrets are, how its crafted, and if it really does transcend the original. The Act Two Breakdown Series takes...2021-12-131h 12

Act Two PodcastDon‘t Please Your Producer (from a Producer)One of the most difficult things for a Screenwriter is figuring out how to work with your Execs. They pay you, so are they your boss? They can veto your choices (because they're paying you), so should you just do what they say? What should the dynamic between a Writer and a Producer look like? Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman speak with a Producer about real-life Writer/Producer scenarios that haven't worked, and discuss why and what lessons Screenwriters can learn from those experiences. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lu...2021-12-0655 min

Act Two PodcastThis Week in Writing This Week in Writing wherein host Josh Hallman has a breakthrough in how to break story, reveals part of his process that makes him look like a crazy man, and takes notes from a lawyer about the “art of persuasion”; and wherein host Tasha Huo has to pitch someone who doesn’t react and handles it by over-compensating, and learns about a very hidden “note behind the note” in her latest studio notes document. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-11-2929 min

Act Two PodcastHoliday Gifts -- What to get Reps and ProducersHolidays are here, and it’s time to panic about what to get your reps. Freak out no more! Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman give some great gift ideas, and share some insider info from reps themselves on what gifts they are actually looking for this year. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-11-2135 min

Act Two PodcastThe Breakdown: Writing Action SetpiecesAction is its own unique writing skill and different masters craft their action differently. That's why, in this episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman dive into the specific writing techniques used by some of the best action writers in the business, including Derek Kolstad, James Cameron and Shane Black. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-11-1549 min

Act Two PodcastHow to Handle SubmissionsIf you are a working Screenwriter, you will receive Submissions from Producers as a regular part of your job. Screenwriters Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss how to handle those submissions, what producers are expecting of you when they submit to you, and how to succeed in the submission game. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-11-0854 min

Act Two PodcastScreenwriting Twitter TopicsHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman chime in on some of the most hotly-debated topics on Screenwriting Twitter going on right now. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-10-3133 min

Act Two PodcastThe Pitch: Film to TVHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman surprise each other with popular Film prompts that they have to, on the spot, pitch as a TV show. It's an exercise in how to think about adaptation, about the difference between TV and Film, and how to jumpstart the idea process when thinking about your own original TV ideas. How would YOU adapt your favorite movie as a TV show? Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-10-2547 min

Act Two PodcastFinding Your Next IdeaHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss where they get their ideas and inspiration from, what tricks they use in Act Two, and how to start asking more questions about your world to get the brain juices flowing. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-10-1839 min

Act Two PodcastWhen to Work for Free?To write for free or not to write for free, that is the oft-asked Screenwriter’s question. So, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss situations in their own careers when they’ve been asked to do free work, what that looked like and why they did it. They also discuss the various ways free work can come up for Screenwriters, and debate whether writers should or should not engage. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-10-1158 min

Act Two PodcastTasha Interviews Josh: AUSTIN FILM FESTIVALAustin Film Festival 2021 runs from October 21 - 28, so host Tasha Huo chats with co-host Josh Hallman who has been to AFF twice. First in 2014, when he won the Fade to Black Award for his action-comedy I F****d James Bond and also met his Agent, and again in 2019 with his festival favorite short, Robu (now available on YouTube starring Emmy winner, Jharrel Jerome). Act Two’s resident expert on AFF, Josh spills the beans on what it’s like to go to the festival and shares practical tips and tricks on how to maximize your experience as a Screenwriter. 2021-10-0457 min

Act Two PodcastJosh Interviews Tasha: SHOWRUNNINGHost Josh Hallman makes co-host Tasha Huo tell the story of how she became a Showrunner on TOMB RAIDER: THE ANIMATED SERIES, what the job entails, what surprises there were, and steps writers can take to prepare for the job. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-09-2747 min

Act Two PodcastFireside ChatSit down with hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman as they chat about a new slew of real-life problems and complications that have come up for Screenwriters working in the industry right now, and how the Screenwriter overcame them. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-09-2050 min

Act Two PodcastWriter‘s Tool Chest: The NotecardKnowing how to break your ideas and scripts into Notecards can be an extremely valuable tool in your writer’s tool chest, and is key to understanding a career in TV development. In this episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman get into the nitty gritty of what developing with Notecards looks like, lessons they’ve learned about the process, and how to make them useful in your own Screenwriting career. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-09-1351 min

Act Two PodcastWhat A Good Relationship With Your Reps Looks LikeHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss a topic every screenwriter loves... your reps! Specifically, how to maintain a good relationship with your reps and what a working relationship looks like. This episode is a companion piece to a previous episode, which you can find here: How to have a good relationship with your reps. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-09-061h 02

Act Two PodcastThis Week in WritingHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman dish on their week in Screenwriting, including writing advice from an Emmy-award winning casting director, how writing a fan letter to an author could lead to a job, what happens when you get a note you don't want to address, and more! Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-08-3041 min

Act Two PodcastDaily Life of a TV Staff Writer with Monty BennettHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman hang out with September Act Two Mentor, Mr. Monty Bennett, to discuss the daily life of a staff writer in a TV room. They share stories on everything from when you're expected to file in for the day, what's the snack situation, room politics, and how to pitch a good idea. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-08-2345 min

Act Two PodcastAnatomy of an Action SetpieceHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman sit down and talk about their favorite thing -- action setpieces in movies. Breaking down iconic action sequences from four different films, they discuss how story structure, reversals, and character development are all key ingredients to crafting an action scene. Turns out, action is so much more than just punching someone in a really cool way. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-08-1656 min

Act Two PodcastThe Note Giver's 10 CommandmentsPart II of the Notes Commandments series, wherein hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman break down the best, most effective (and simultaneously, the kindest) way to GIVE notes to Screenwriters, and what Screenwriters should expect in their own notes meetings with producers and executives. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-08-0953 min

Act Two PodcastTo Study Film, or Not? with Special Guest: James StoterauxHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman sit down with Screenwriter James Stoteraux, Executive-Producer of "Batwoman", after his thread about his volatile experience at Columbia's graduate film program went viral on Twitter. We get honest with James as we all share our Film School experiences, how we feel Film School failed us, where film academia excels, and how to make the most of your program if you are taking the college plunge or are actively in Film School already. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg 2021-08-011h 22

Act Two PodcastStaying Proactive And Being An Advocate For Yourself.There are many ways to stay proactive in your writing life. If you're sitting on a script you're passionate about, there are (creative) ways to get it into the world. Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman talk about the different outlets screenwriters have and ways to be an advocate for yourself. Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com 2021-07-2649 min

Act Two PodcastThe Open Writing Assignment (OWA): Devil or Deliverer?Some Screenwriters think Open Writing Assignments (OWAs) are a waste of time and a product of the Devil, other Screenwriters build sustainable careers off of them, and still others believe they are a unique gateway for up & coming Screenwriters to get their foot in the door. Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman walk through what OWAs are, the different types, and the Pros & Cons to engaging on them. Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com 2021-07-1943 min

Act Two PodcastThis Week in WritingA busy week of A-list writer meltdowns, reps pushing us to be selfish jerkoids, organization coming back to haunt us, and one TV writer’s tirade against film school — Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman dish on their This Week in Writing, in the life of a professional Screenwriter. Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com 2021-07-1250 min

Act Two PodcastHow to Stay OrganizedIn this Screenwriter-nerd episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman get specific about how they and other professional Screenwriters organize their files. Easy and clear organization becomes extremely important as you receive notes that could take you through years of development on the same project. A clean organization of your documents will allow you to refer back to single scenes from months ago, easily call back old drafts that suddenly become relevant with new producers, or for any number of unexpected reasons that come up when you're a working Screenwriter. Do you have a unique way of organizing your...2021-07-0528 min

Act Two PodcastThis Week in WritingA busy week of new discoveries, bizarre meetings and franchise opportunities -- Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman dish on their This Week in Writing, in the life of a professional Screenwriter. Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com 2021-06-2839 min

Act Two PodcastThe Art of Adaptation with Special Guest: Evan SpiliotopoulosHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman sit down with screenwriter and master of the adaptation Evan Spiliotopoulos (Snake Eyes, The Huntsman: Winter's War, Beauty and the Beast) to discuss how he approaches adaptation vs. an original idea, and how his latest film, the horror movie THE UNHOLY, based on the novel "Shrine" by James Herbert, was a unique adaptation experience. Evan also opens up about what it's like to be a Screenwriter making his directorial debut (and during a global pandemic!). Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gm...2021-06-2048 min

Act Two PodcastFilm Writing vs. TV Writing with Special Guest David LevinsonThis was the description I wrote — Writing for the small screen is not the same as writing for the big screen. They are completely different skills. In this episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman sit down with feature writer David Levinson -- who is currently writing his first TV pilot -- to discuss the growing pains between writing for Film vs. TV, how each requires a different way of thinking about story, and how they've approached adapting their screenwriting skills to the small screen. Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg...2021-06-1453 min

Act Two PodcastFireside Chat: This Is UsHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss the personal stories they consider turning points in their Screenwriting careers. Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com 2021-06-0749 min

Act Two PodcastPitching Is Terrible: The Series (Part 4 -- The Ten Minutes After You Pitch)It turns out there is a crucial moment after you pitch -- the ten-minute window when the pitch is finished. In part four of this multi-episode series hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss this moment and how it can make or break your pitch. It's important and pitching is the greatest/worst!!! Edited by the great Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com 2021-05-3141 min

Act Two PodcastThe Note Taker's 10 CommandmentsTo have a sustainable Screenwriting career, you need to know more than just how to write a brilliant screenplay. Eventually, every Screenwriter is asked to revise. But taking notes and executing them effectively is a whole other part of the brain and a different skillset than simply writing a genius spec. For that reason, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman kick off their Notes Series with the “10 COMMANDMENTS FOR NOTE TAKERS”, a handy how-to-guide for Screenwriters on how to think about notes like a professional, and set yourself up for continued success. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail...2021-05-241h 02

Act Two PodcastWHY MOVIES WORK: Nobody, Mortal Kombat and The Mitchells vs. the MachinesIn this inaugural edition of WHY MOVIES WORK, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman discuss three recently-released movies — NOBODY, MORTAL KOMBAT and THE MITCHELLS VS. THE MACHINES — and, more specifically, why these movies work on a screenwriting level. *Do be warned — SPOILERS AHEAD* Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com -- Edited by Paul Lundquist -- Music by 414beg 2021-05-1757 min

Act Two PodcastDevelopment HellDevelopment Hell is part of every Screenwriter’s career, great and small. In this first in an ongoing series about real-life development stories, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman kick things off with a break down of just how a writer gets caught in Development Hell, what exactly that means, and even tell a few epic stories of how some hellish development stories have produced movies we all know and love. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com -- Edited by Paul Lundquist -- Music by 414beg 2021-05-1054 min

Act Two PodcastGhostwriting -- The Best Kept Secret in Screenwriting Chances are, the Screenwriters of your favorite movies have hired a Ghostwriter to do everything from joke punch-ups to full on writing of your favorite scenes and set-pieces. Ghostwriting is one of the best kept secrets in Hollywood Screenwriting. In this episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman go full investigative journalist and bring to light real stories from real working Ghostwriters in Hollywood who have ghost written everything from TV shows to studio franchise movies. These Ghostwriters dish (anonymously) on what it’s like to have big writers ask you to do their work for them. The stories th...2021-05-0358 min

Act Two PodcastSecret to the Spec Sale: Interview with Daniel KunkaHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman talk with spec master Daniel Kunka to discuss his latest script: LIFT. Kunka’s spec created a frenzy that resulted in him teaming up with Netflix, Simon Kinberg, and Matt Reeves. The Act Two Podcast loves (LOVES) specs, and it was great to have Kunka offer inspiration while sharing his insight. Questions/Comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com -- Edited by Paul Lundquist -- Music by 414beg 2021-04-191h 10

Act Two PodcastProcess: Getting the Job - Tomb Raider and Red SonjaIt's a big month in the news for co-host Tasha Huo, who has been hired to create and executive produce the animated series TOMB RAIDER for Netflix, and to adapt the comic RED SONJA for Millennium. So in this episode, Josh Hallman forces Tasha to finally talk about herself and discuss the process behind getting both those jobs, and what comes next. Questions/comments: ActTwoWriters@gmail.com - the Act Two Podcast is edited by Paul Lundquist and music is by 414beg. 2021-03-0141 min

Act Two PodcastThe Breakdown: Back to the Future (Act 3 - Obstacles & Pay-Offs)BACK TO THE FUTURE, crafted by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale, has one of the most satisfying endings in film. It accomplishes this through building continuous Obstacles and Paying Off all the Setups from Act One. In this last installment of The Breakdown: BTTF Edition, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman break down just how a perfect, satisfying ending is pulled off at the writing level. The Breakdown Series is a special, ongoing series where hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman tear into the Screenwriting of masterful films and television episodes, breaking down how the sausage is...2020-12-1448 min

Act Two PodcastThe Breakdown: BACK TO THE FUTURE (Act Two - The Art of Cause & Effect) BACK TO THE FUTURE, written by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale, is a masterclass in how to craft the perfect Act Two. It has a powerful story engine, unexpected twists and turns, emotional ups and downs, and it forces the audience to be an active participant in the adventure. In this second installment of The Breakdown: BTTF Edition, Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman break down just how Zemeckis and Gale pulled all this off to create one of the most perfect films in history -- Hint: Cause & Effect. The Breakdown Series is a special, ongoing s...2020-12-061h 11

Act Two PodcastThe Breakdown: BACK TO THE FUTURE (Act One)BACK TO THE FUTURE, written by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale, wasn't always the perfect movie you think it was. The original draft was far from the genius that made it to screen. In this special holiday episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman take a close look at how Zemeckis and Gale handle Act One problems like setups, character intros, theme, dialogue, and suspense in the masterpiece that is BACK TO THE FUTURE, and they compare the rocky, more adult first draft to the finished tour de force that made it into our hearts and minds. ...2020-11-231h 12

Act Two PodcastA Million Ways: Guest Interview w/ Screenwriter Corey DeshonThere are a million ways to a Screenwriting career. In this episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman sit down with screenwriter Corey Deshon to discuss his epic Twitter thread on the many starts and stops of his writing career, and how "the slog" is part of the job description. Corey started as a Production Assistant and found immediate success in Hollywood as an indie film writer, but never quite saw his career take off despite sales and produced credits. Now a working staff writer in TV and in post on his directorial debut Daughter due out in 2021, Corey...2020-11-081h 08

Act Two PodcastWorking Hard or Hardly Working? -- A Day in the Life of a ScreenwriterThe first question every Panel Host asks a Screenwriter is, "What does your typical writing day look like?" It's a burning question we've all had because knowing how other writers work effectively can be extremely helpful, especially if you struggle with stress, procrastination, excuses, or timing issues. In this episode, hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman talk through their typical writing day, and chat openly about their writing schedule trials, tribulations, tips and tricks. Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg. Questions/Comments: Tasha.Huo@acttwowriters.com 2020-10-0542 min

Act Two PodcastA Screenwriter Walks into a Festival...... and then what? Hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman talk about their experiences as Screenwriters at Sundance and the Austin Film Festival (respectively) and how it affected their careers. Why should you apply to a screenwriting festival, what do you do once you're at one, and what's the point of them? Tasha and Josh go in-depth on the festival experience as a Screenwriter and why it may be right (or wrong) for you. Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg. Questions/Comments: Tasha.Huo@acttwowriters.com 2020-09-2840 min

Act Two PodcastHARD KILL: Script to Screen with Joe RussoHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman chat with Act Two member, Joe Russo, about his writing process on HARD KILL, his '90s throwback action movie starring Bruce Willis and former WWE wrestler Eva Marie. Joe walks us through the unique development process of writing a low-budget actioner, illuminates the realities of life as a working Screenwriter, and shares his entertaining tales from the trenches (like meeting Bruce Willis!). Watch HARD KILL now on Amazon Prime HERE. Edited by Paul Lundquist Music by 414beg. Questions/Comments: Tasha.Huo@acttwowriters.com 2020-09-0759 min

Act Two PodcastThe Art of the Spec ScriptSpec scripts -- original feature-length screenplays you write for free and then try to sell on the market -- are an imperative part of a Screenwriter's profession, particularly for new and mid-level writers. They can offer you a unique control over your career, and have the potential to catapult you into the spotlight overnight. In this episode, Tasha Huo chats with co-host Josh Hallman about his spec writing process. He dives deep into how he develops his spec scripts, what land mines he's faced when it comes time to sell, the politics that are involved, and the absolute importance...2020-08-3154 min

Act Two PodcastWelcome Home: Blank Page to Red Carpet with David LevinsonHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman sit down (with some electrolyte margaritas) and chat with screenwriter David Levinson on getting his first movie produced. They break down what it's like for a writer during the entire process, from development, to casting, to eating too much craft services on set in Italy. WELCOME HOME by David Levinson -- A couple rents a villa in Italy hoping to mend their bruised relationship, but the devilishly charming homeowner can't seem to leave them alone. Emmy Award-winning actor Aaron Paul ("Breaking Bad") stars in this thriller of a weekend g...2020-08-241h 04

Act Two PodcastWe're Back! Post-Quarantine for ScreenwritersHosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman talk surviving the apocalypse as a working screenwriter, what their writing days now look like, what brings them hope and inspiration in these trying times, and what the landscape looks like now as a screenwriter. Spoiler alert! It's not as bleak as you think! Questions/Comments: Tasha.Huo@acttwowriters.com Music by 414beg.2020-08-2435 min

Act Two PodcastGetting Repped -- All the Ways to Get a Manager or Agent Screenwriters Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman share their wild stories about how they got their first Manager and Agent, and talk through the many ways you can get representation. Everyone tells you to get repped, but why do you even need a rep, and what the heck do they do anyway? This is the Act Two Podcast, where hosts Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman demystify what it means to be an everyday working Screenwriter. Questions/Comments: Tasha.Huo@acttwowriters.com Music by 414beg.2020-08-2447 min

Act Two PodcastIntroducing the ACT TWO PodcastWelcome to the Act Two Podcast where screenwriters Tasha Huo and Josh Hallman demystify what it means to be an everyday working Screenwriter. In this introductory episode, meet your hosts, learn their paths to becoming professional Screenwriters, and get a preview for the epic journey to come in the Act Two Podcast. A podcast for Screenwriters, by Screenwriters. Questions/Comments: Tasha.Huo@acttwowriters.com Music by 414beg.2020-08-2416 min