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TastelandTastelandEp. 52: Gentle-parenting your audience ft. Jeremy KirklandThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Jeremy Kirkland, host of the podcast Blamo! — a podcast exploring the world of fashion with the personalities that shape it.__Blamo!PodcastInstagramJeremyInstagramLinkedIn__Timestamps00:00 I always make my knock a little song05:36 All podcasts are restaurant podcasts08:13 Nine years of podcasting14:47 The business of Blamo!22:28 The culture of criticism online29:29 You should do embarrassing things37:45 The cost of existing in the creator ec...2025-07-231h 07TastelandTastelandEp. 51: Never Post ft. Mike RugnettaThis week on Tasteland we're joined by writer, producer, and podcaster, Mike Rugnetta. Mike is the host of Never Post, a podcast that asks questions about why the world of the internet – and the world, because of the internet – is the way it is.__ Follow Mike InstagramBlueskyWebsiteLinktree__Timestamps 00:00 Sunday summer derangement03:25 Changing the way the world changes08:50 The age of the platform has ended14:16 The rise of the agentic web17:06 Hentai explains everything22:50 Bob Geldof's flaming pitchfork27:48 Atte...2025-07-1641 minTastelandTastelandEp. 50: Information Age ft. Cora LewisThis week on Tasteland we are joined by writer and award winning journalist, Cora Lewis. Cora's fiction has appeared at The Yale Review, Joyland Magazine, Epiphany, and elsewhere. She currently works at the Associated Press in New York, and she previously worked at BuzzFeed News. Cora's debut novella, Information Age, comes out on July 15th.Pre-order Cora's book Information Age__Follow CoraTwitter/XLinkedInWebsite__Timestamps00:00 Reading Information Age04:37 Book design and unique literary devices11:46 Title inspiration and influences14:12 The artistry of...2025-07-0957 minTastelandTastelandEp. 49: Icks from the Six ft. Ariel RubinThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Webby Award-winning content creator, social strategist, and meme enthusiast, Ariel Rubin. Ariel is the the head of content at Air and one of Francis' greatest enemies.__Follow AriLinkedInWebsiteTwitter/X__Links & ReferencesThe Cycle Bookick.fyi on Instagram__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Ariel Rubin01:40 Recent icks07:33 LinkedIn hates Bonnie Blue11:45 Wife guys, one hell of a fraternity14:24 SaaS is the most honest industry20:19 Selling out is compulsory now2025-07-0250 minTastelandTastelandEp. 48: Planting the internet ft. Nika Simovich FisherThis week on Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are joined by design strategist, writer, journalist, and educator, Nika Simovich Fisher.__Nika Simovich FisherWebsiteLinkedInInstagram__Links & ReferencesMore about Nika's Hard Pack pieceNika's piece on Digitizing and Preserving Cyrillic Typefaces in SerbiaNika's website, WildflowersNika's piece on The evolution of the trash icon__Timestamps00:00 Intro01:41 Berlin fragrance experience05:49 The design of modern political campaigns15:06 The relationship between midcentury design and skiing22:12 Digitizing and preserving Cyrillic typefaces in Serbia27:34...2025-06-251h 01TastelandTastelandEp. 47: Venture Capital Culture ft. Maya BakhaiThis week we have part two of Daisy and Francis' conversation with Maya Bakhai, founder of Spice Capital, a venture capital firm focused on taking big bets in areas primed for rapid change in the coming decades.Listen to part one:SpotifyApple Podcasts__Maya BakhaiNewsletterLinkedInInstagramX/TwitterSpice CapitalWebsiteInstagramTikTokX/Twitter__Timestamps00:00 Introducing part two03:11 The role of small businesses in today's economy07:56 Asset class creep11:43 The rise of women in wealth management2025-06-1837 minTastelandTastelandEp. 46: State of Skate ft. Cole NowickiThis week on Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are joined by writer, producer and publisher Cole Nowicki. Cole runs the newsletter Simple Magic, a newsletter about skateboarding, the internet, and other means of escape.__ColeSimple MagicCole's booksInstagramBlueskyLinkedIn__Links & ReferencesDirt x Simple Magic Introducing... NosegrabCole's piece Boom and echoCole's piece Falling or failingCole's piece Is social media dead?Hardbody Skateboarding NEVER ENUFF IIIGail.com__00:00 Introducing Cole04:08 Unstated notes of piss06:24 Early skater media influences12:30 Skate culture and third spaces15:48...2025-06-111h 03TastelandTastelandEp. 45: In defense of friction ft. Kyla ScanlonThis week Francis is joined by financial content creator, educator, and author, Kyla Scanlon. Kyla writes about everything from crypto to macroeconomics to similarities between grief and love, bringing the human aspect of economics to the forefront.__KylaIn This Economy?TikTokInstagramYouTubeTwitterNewsletterPodcast__ReferencesKyla's essay The Most Valuable Commodity in the World is FrictionKyla's essay Economic Lessons from the Screwtape LettersTasteland Ep. 14 ft. David Rudnick__Timestamps00:00:00 Animal Cracker friction00:06:32 Understanding friction as a commodity00:11:25 The simulation economy00:18:07 Is the...2025-06-041h 01TastelandTastelandEp. 44: Cultural arbitrage ft. Maya BakhaiThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Maya Bakhai, founder of Spice Capital, a venture capital firm focused on taking big bets in areas primed for rapid change in the coming decades.__Maya BakhaiNewsletterLinkedInInstagramX/TwitterSpice CapitalWebsiteInstagramTikTokX/Twitter__ReferencesLenny: How tech works really feel about work right nowLinkedIn Post: Why PRIME hit a $3.2B valuation overnightTBPN: Technology Brothers podcastThe Information: How the 'Technology Brothers' Seized Silicon Valley__Timestamps00:00:00 Vineyards and interstates00:06:41 Venture capital: The invisible...2025-05-281h 03This Is TASTEThis Is TASTETaking the Temp on Food Media, Podcasts, Creators, Pop-Ups, and Today’s Dining Culture with TastelandTasteland is a very cool podcast that offers creative takes on media, marketing, and technology from Daisy Alioto and Francis Zierer. Daisy is the CEO of Dirt Media, a next-generation entertainment brand using emerging technology to tell the coolest stories about culture and collecting. Francis is the editor of Creator Spotlight, a weekly newsletter about creators across the world of newsletters. Matt joins Daisy and Francis to talk all about media, the power of the podcast, and some of the work we do at TASTE.On this episode we hit many topics, including: Robert Sietsema on Substack...2025-05-241h 06TastelandTastelandEp. 43: The Scented Mr. Ripley ft. Carly SilvermanThis week on Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are joined by comedy, culture, and perfume writer, Carly Silverman. Carly is also a TV and video producer, and host of the new podcast Smell That Movie.__CarlySmell That MovieTwitter/XInstagramLinks & ReferencesDirt / Greta Rainbow: Where will the next literary movement come from?Cosmo / Carly Silverman: The PerfumeTok influencers have got it all wrongSubstack / Kyla Scanlon: The most valuable commodity is friction__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Carly Silverman00:56 The sign of a good party03:35...2025-05-211h 03TastelandTastelandEp. 42: Old restaurants are the new restaurants ft. Matt RodbardThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Matt Rodbard, a seasoned writer, editor and author in the food and culture space. Matt is the Editor in Chief of the award winning food publication TASTE and co-host of podcast This is TASTE.__MattWebsiteInstagramLinkedInTasteWebsiteNewsletterPodcastYouTubeInstagramTwitter/X__Links & ReferencesNieman Lab piece on Clone__Timestamps00:00:00 Introducing Matt Rodbard00:01:39 Food content at The Webbys00:06:39 The shift to creator-first journalism00:14:32 Rising critical food content online00:18:37 Visual identity...2025-05-141h 05TastelandTastelandEp. 41: Under the Henfluence ft. Tove Danovich Francis is out of town this week and Daisy is joined by Tove Danovich, a journalist and writer who has featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post, The Ringer, and Dirt. She is the author of the 'Under the Henfluence: Inside the World of Backyard Chickens and the People Who Love Them', an immersive blend of chicken-keeping memoir and animal welfare reporting.--ToveWebsiteSubstackInstagramBluesky--Links & ReferencesDirt x Boys Club: clone.fyiTove's book list: Nine amazing books about animalsTove's climate change piece: On hope and hopelessnessDaisy's...2025-05-0751 minTastelandTastelandEp. 40: Bread and Magazines ft. Sarah Leonard of LuxThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Sarah Leonard, editor in chief of Lux Magazine, a feminist magazine of politics and culture founded in 2021. Sarah is also a contributing editor to Dissent and The Nation, and her writing has been published in The New York Times, The Guardian, The New Republic, and elsewhere.__Lux MagazineWebsiteTwitter/XInstagramReferencesInterview with Sarah: Creative Independent__Timestamps00:00 American tourists irritate American tourist09:10 The joys and difficulties of print media12:33 Designing a...2025-04-301h 04TastelandTastelandEp. 39: In defense of internet addiction ft. Boys ClubThis week on Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are joined by Deana Burke and Natasha Hoskins of Boys Club, a media and creative studio. They're also the hosts of the Dumb B!tch Hour, a podcast for the deeply online, where they chat about all things tech, crypto, and pop culture news.__Boys ClubWebsiteTwitterDumb B!tch Hour Podcast__ReferencesBen's play: Rich Beyond Our Wildest DreamsFrancis' essay: What is the creator economy?__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Boys Club01:17 New verticals & what is the creator economy?2025-04-2359 minTastelandTastelandEp. 38: Coachella hacks ft. Paula MejíaThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by versatile writer and editor, Paula Mejía. Paula specializes in arts and culture journalism and is currently a leading contributor at Dirt.__PaulaInstagramTwitter/XWebsite__Other referencesFrancis' brand sillage piecePaula's Barnes and Noble piece__Timestamps00:00 Introducing Paula Mejía00:28 Festival experiences03:40 Coachella emergency dental07:15 The best and worst of Coachella12:16 Flower crowns out, assless chaps in14:36 Spa day festival hack18:15 Hot Topic and the ev...2025-04-1658 minTastelandTastelandEp. 37: In defense of hospitality ft. Colin NagyThis week Daisy and Francis talk to travel and hospitality writer, Colin Nagy. Colin is also the co-creator of the newsletter 'Why is this interesting?'Colin: https://x.com/CJNWhy is this interesting?: https://www.interesting.us00:00:00 Long live the girl moss00:04:08 The podcast mic and illusion of authority00:06:20 Credibility laundering: How to industry plant yourself00:11:01 Blockchain taste formalization00:13:51 Abstract theories applied to the blockchain00:16:43 Who gets to decide how we remember?00:27:10 Language, Culture, and...2025-04-091h 01Future CommerceFuture CommerceThe New Era of Media with TastelandFeat. Daisy Alioto & Francis ZiererDaisy Alioto and Francis Zierer of Tasteland join us to talk about what happens when two distinct media brands—Dirt and Creator Spotlight—collide. We explore how podcasting has become a creative extension of newsletters, how parasocial dynamics shape audience building, and what it means to build brand and community in a fractured media landscape.Staying Afloat in the Primordial SoupKey takeaways:The “Anti-Scene” Scene: Today’s creative connections often form organically—through mutual respect and shared ideas, not cliquish gatekeeping—giving rise to an “asynchronous salon” of cultur...2025-04-0259 minTastelandTastelandEp. 36: Future Commerce ft. Phillip Jackson and Brian LangeThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Phillip Jackson and Brian Lange from the Future Commerce podcast. What is the future of art in an AI world? Do we need more friction in our lives? Should AI feel shame?Listen to Future Commerce: https://www.futurecommerce.com/episodes00:00 Introduction to Phil and Brian01:46 Blank launch party05:52 OpenAI’s Studio Ghibli marketing ploy11:45 All that we’re left with is aura19:27 The value of the art is the creator25:00 Losing control of t...2025-04-021h 09TastelandTastelandEp. 35: Retro Tech ft. Kori FuerstThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Kori Fuerst, co-founder of Retrospekt, a consumer electronics company specialising in reviving retro tech for a new generation.Retrospekt: https://retrospekt.com00:00 Introducing Kori and Restrospekt02:35 Awkward police encounters06:12 Defaulting to the classic08:09 The unique Retrospekt office space11:14 Retro collaborations and IP licensing14:53 Transitioning from hobby to business22:28 Challenges with repairing newer tech23:57 Pop cultures effect on retro tech hype27:05 The rise of digicams and the 2000's...2025-03-2659 minTastelandTastelandEp. 34: Fragrance Rich ft. Trey TaylorThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Trey Taylor, Gen Z consumer expert who has recently pivoted into the world of fragrances and just launched their perfume brand Serviette.Trey Taylor: https://x.com/treytylorServiette: https://serviette.nyc/pages/about?srsltid=AfmBOorQMQdp9fVeRd_vV-aXXIsRid3t8o2z9NL0ZZU19-3ZWsdFridM00:00 Introducing Trey and Serviette00:55 The symbiotic relationship between oral and written culture04:00 Serviette launch party09:08 The art and struggle of perfume creation14:07 The monopolization of fragrance22:16...2025-03-1959 minTastelandTastelandEp. 33: On The Fence ft. Charlie BakerThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Charlie Baker, editor of The Fence, a quarterly print magazine (and weekly newsletter) focused on life in the UK and Ireland.The Fence: https://www.the-fence.comCapital Letter: https://thefencecapitalletter.substack.com/00:00 Introducing Charlie Baker and The Fence01:51 The value exchange of a podcast appearance07:48 The Fence's unique and historic office space13:41 The Capital Letter: London's only newsletter20:52 Cultural exchange between the US and UK is growing23:47 Increasing London pub...2025-03-1253 minTastelandTastelandEp. 32: The Dark Mode Shift ft. Edmond Lau This week Daisy and Francis are joined by cultural strategist, designer and art director, Edmond Lau. Edmond is known for his "luxury memes" and his recent coining of the term "dark mode shift".Follow EdmondLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/atelieredmondlau/X: https://x.com/nstlgiaxpress00:00 The rise of LinkedIn07:23 An outsider's perspective on NYC culture15:05 Edmond's unique career arc20:09 Creating digital profiles of personal taste28:28 The dark mode shift and ambiguous grief42:09 The evolving insecurities...2025-03-051h 00TastelandTastelandEp. 31: Art of the stealThere's no guest this week, which gives Daisy and Francis the chance to discuss why people hate Renoir, the simultaneously growing and eroding types of media literacy, SEO arbitrage, and why we need pay people to build beautiful things.00:00 The five things we did this week02:38 The nuances of art deaccessioning08:48 Why Francis has stopped sports betting11:14 Different types of media literacy and their current state14:36 The need for working-class media24:28 The death of content website investing35:08 Islands and empires in the creator...2025-02-2655 minTastelandTastelandEp. 30: Mammalian E-girls ft. Katherine DeeThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Katherine Dee, a reporter and internet culture writer since 2018. She's here to discuss the evolution of e-girls, their cultural significance, and the changing landscape of media and online identity.Katherine's X: https://x.com/default_friendKatherine's Substack: https://substack.com/@defaultfriend00:00:00 Unique art museum experiences00:04:15 Defining e-girls and their evolution00:10:50 Shifting media forms and declining media literacy00:19:55 The anti-woke movement is an entertainment genre00:27:07 Dolphin accelerationism00:31:00 The ethics of interacting...2025-02-191h 08TastelandTastelandEp. 29: Shelf life ft. Jad EsberDaisy and Francis are joined by Jad Esber, founder and CEO of Koodos Labs, a product and research company focused on the next generation of the internet. Koodos Labs is the creator of Shelf.Shelf: www.shelf.imJad: https://x.com/Jad_AE00:00 Night Life02:20 Daisy smells like a donut08:33 Inverting the internet's personal data model14:47 Understanding the concept of data gravity19:56 The algorithms influence on interpersonal relationships30:53 Shelf: Your aggregator for taste39:00 The difficulties of tracking physical...2025-02-1257 minTastelandTastelandEp. 28: Statues of critics ft. Tatum DooleyDaisy and Francis are joined by art critic, curatorial consultant, and writer Tatum Dooley. She is the founder and editor of the newsletter Art Forecast. They discuss the balance of art and business, the importance of artist-first thinking, and the impact of social media on artistic identity.Art Forecast: https://artforecast.substack.com/00:00 Controversial college mascot rebrand07:23 The spectrum of artistry to entrepreneurship13:30 Rebranding for global recognition16:09 2025 trend predictions in the art world22:26 The power of the studio visit25:46 Balancing mentorship...2025-02-0556 minWear Many HatsWear Many HatsEp 342 // Francis ZiererFrancis Zierer is a writer. Francis helps brands tell stories through copywriting, marketing, research, branding, and strategy. I first found Francis through Creator Spotlight over at beehiiv where Tyler also is the co host of Tasteland with friend and guest of the show Daisy Alioto. We love putting the spotlight on creatives that's Wear Many Hats. 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Josh Zoerner of Night GalleryThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Josh Zoerner, founder of Night Gallery, to discuss the creative process behind their collaborative book, Notes, a tribute to the humble iPhone note.Buy Notes: https://nightgallery.metalabel.com/notes00:00 Introducing Josh and the NOTES book05:20 Fan of the band09:19 Music is how we decorate time12:46 The emotional connection to past notes21:15 Thematic elements in t-shirt drops27:19 Iconic collaborations and recognition from idols32:01 The creative process of books vs clothing2025-01-2959 minTastelandTastelandEp. 26: Against Platforms ft. Mike PepiThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Mike Pepi to discuss his book Against Platforms: Surviving Digital Utopia. They explore the definitions and implications of platforms in the digital age and the concept of techno-utopianism.Buy Mike's book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/761644/Mike Pepi: https://www.mikepepi.com/writing00:00:00 Introducing Mike Pepi and defining platforms00:05:06 Techno-utopianism in the history of western tech00:13:23 Platform equilibrium; no growth is death00:21:45 Tech platforms are not a tool00:26:09 The unintended consequences of the...2025-01-221h 01TastelandTastelandEp. 25: The future of alt-lit ft. Greta RainbowThis week Francis and Daisy welcome writer and researcher Greta Rainbow. They discuss the evolving landscape of food journalism, the impact of digital art through the Glance Back browser extension, and the relationship between technology and personal identity.Glance Back piece: https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/my-machine-and-me/ Greta: https://x.com/gertsofficial 00:00 Introducing Greta01:15 The changing landscape of food journalism 06:09 The internet is for making friends 08:21 Glance Back: Your relationship with your computer 14:43 Balancing privacy and risk of contemporary storage 17:47...2025-01-1549 minTastelandTastelandEp. 24: Special Sauce ft. Emily SundbergThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Emily Sundberg, creator of the popular business newsletter Feed Me. They explore the theme of specialness in modern life, discussing how technology, communication, and social interactions have evolved and impacted our sense of intimacy and connection.Feed Me: https://www.readfeedme.com/00:00 Introducing Emily and Feed Me01:40 Nothing Feels Special Anymore04:28 Texting's Effect on Communication and Intimacy10:10 The Relationship Between Friction and Specialness15:03 The Balance of Responsibility for Social Collapse18:12 The Intention Behind...2025-01-0857 minThe Creator Spotlight PodcastThe Creator Spotlight PodcastEp. 40: How to build a media company: Use streetwear brand tacticsIn this episode of Creator Spotlight Francis is joined by Daisy Alioto, CEO, editor and writer of Dirt Media. They explore the evolution of Dirt Media, its unique approach to content and community, and the challenges faced in the current media landscape. Daisy: https://x.com/daisandconfused Dirt: https://dirt.fyi Tasteland: https://www.tasteland.fyi 00:00 Introducing Daisy Alioto and Dirt Media 04:00 Treating Subscribers as Collectors 06:35 The Primordial Soup of the Media Environment 11:49 Running a Media Company Like a Streetwear Brand 2025-01-0237 minTastelandTastelandEp. 23: Smoking (Mailbag Part 2)2025 is kicking off with another mailbag episode of Tasteland. Daisy and Francis are answering your questions about whether smoking is cool again, what sucks the most, and sharing their synesthesia wrapped. 00:00 Happy New Year01:44 Is Smoking Cool Again?09:12 Media That Shapes Your Worldview and Opinions15:27 Podcasts and Personal Connections17:58 Navigating Creative Output and Information Diets22:07 Feedback Mechanisms in Digital Media28:47 Synesthesia Wrapped: Purplest Movie of the Year36:11 What Sucks the Most? Elon Musk and The Passage of Time38:28 Francis...2025-01-0142 minTastelandTastelandEp. 22: Overhyped (Mailbag Part 1)For this Christmas Day episode of Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are reaching into their sack of questions sent in by you, the listeners. Gas station orders, apple picking, hypergamy and more.00:00 Seasons Greetings and Gas Station EatingsOverrated or Underrated04:33 Restaurants and Queueing Culture10:00 Alo Yoga, Working For Yourself, Baja Blast11:07 The M Train, Apple Picking, Annie Ernaux13:17 Hypergamy and The Cast of Challengers15:01 Talking About Your Mental Health and Accidental Bronson17:01 Flats: The Shoe and the Wing, Post Post Alt...2024-12-2542 minTastelandTastelandEp. 21: Envelope Accelerationism ft. Joshua CitarellaJosh Citarella is an artist, writer, podcaster, and researcher who is best-known for his work researching online Gen Z political extremism. He’s the founder of Do Not Research, a non-profit artist community. He’s currently a dozen episodes into Doomscroll, an in-person video talkshow exploring online culture and politics.Email your questions to tastelandpod@gmail.com to be featured in our upcoming mailbag episode.Doomscroll: https://www.youtube.com/@doomscrollpodcastJoshua: https://x.com/JoshuaCitarella00:00 Contribute to the Mailbag01:03 Introducing Joshua and His...2024-12-1855 minTastelandTastelandEp. 20: People vs. Humanity ft. Trevor McFedries This week Daisy and Francis are joined by DJ, producer, founder, renaissance man Trevor McFedries. Email your questions to tastelandpod@gmail.com to be featured in our upcoming mailbag episode. 00:00:00 Ask Tasteland 00:03:41 Introducing Trevor McFedries 00:07:26 The State of Social Media and Creator Payouts 00:13:08 The Impact of Current Events on Social Media 00:18:57 Populism and the Search for Common Ground 00:24:36 The Nature of Violence and Change 00:31:14 Techno-Optimism vs. Techno-Pessimism 00:37:04 Network Spirituality and the Tech Community 00:46:04 The Gold...2024-12-111h 00TastelandTastelandEp. 19: Sportsbook Nation ft. David HillThis week Francis and Daisy are joined by longtime magazine writer and sports gambling expert, David Hill. Read David's piece, Sportsbook Nation: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-sports/sports-betting-law-draftkings-fanduel-1235158334/David's website: https://www.davidhillonline.com/00:00 Introducing David and His Work 05:15 The Rise of Sports Betting 10:08 The Evolution of Betting Markets and Technology 16:42 Regulatory cChallenges and Consumer Protection 21:12 Advertising and Market Competition in Sports Betting 27:30 The Dynamics of Online Gambling 35:25 Is Profitability a Priority for Sports Betting Companies 2024-12-041h 01TastelandTastelandEp. 18: We're all in it together ft. Defector's Jasper Wang, 404 Media's Sam Cole, and Hell Gate's Max Rivlin-NadlerThis week we're talking worker-owned media with people from three of our favorite worker-owned publications — Defector, Hell Gate, and 404 Media. They're very transparent about what it takes to run a modern, subscription-based media business — it's a great conversation.This is from our live pod earlier this month in support of the National Writers Union's legal fund for media workers. You can still donate here: https://www.zeffy.com/en-us/fundraising/donate-to-the-media-freelancers-legal-fund00:00:00 Introducing guests00:04:30 The Business of Worker Owned Media00:06:30 The Biggest Trials and Errors of Being a Founder00...2024-11-271h 14TastelandTastelandEp. 17: Dining with Ben Leventhal, founder of BlackbirdThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Ben Leventhal, co-founder of Eater, Resy and, most recently, Blackbird.Blackbird: https://www.blackbird.xyz00:00 Introducing Ben Leventhal and Blackbird07:19 The Evolution of Restaurant Criticism15:28 Defining New York's Definitive Restaurants21:07 The Future of Dining Experiences30:54 Friction in Dining Culture35:11 Barriers to Restaurants' Adoption of Blackbird36:31 Newly Learnt Consumer Insights38:00 The Desire to Expand Beyond Restaurants40:00 The Blockchain's Role in Identity and Payments46:21 Ben's Best Meal of the...2024-11-2055 minTastelandTastelandEp. 16: Mushrooms in our ears ft. Lauryn Menard, CEO of GobThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Lauryn Menard, CEO and co-founder of Gob, a compostable, plastic-free, mycelium-based earplug company. Gob: https://www.gob.earth/ Tickets for the NWU event: https://dirrrt.fyi/paywriters 00:00 Introducing Lauryn, Gob and its Mission02:03 The Concept of Friction in Modern Consumerism06:20 Designing with End-of-Life in Mind11:32 Scaling Production and Sustainability15:07 The Role of Tesla in Green Marketing19:38 Navigating the B2B and B2C Landscape22:26 Branding and Marketing Positioning2024-11-1355 minTastelandTastelandEp. 15: The FDA is the original tastemaker ft. Teddy Brown and Emily ShugermanThis week, Daisy and Francis welcome journalists Teddy Brown and Emily Shugerman. Teddy recently covered Zyn and its masculine political symbolism for the New York Times, while Emily explored direct-to-consumer women’s health brands for The Guardian.Teddy's article: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/31/style/zyn-nicotine-pouch-masculinity.html Emily's article: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/30/birth-control-contraception-branding-abortion-roe-v-wade?CMP=share_btn_url 00:00 Introducing our guests01:48 Exploring Masculinity and Political Symbolism in Zyn06:04 The Role of Brands and Marketing in Masculinity08:58 Cultural Associations and Gender Dynamics of Zyn...2024-11-0650 minTastelandTastelandEp. 14: New Myths ft. David RudnickThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by graphic designer David Rudnick to discuss the evolution of album covers, digital solipsism and the imagery behind Megalopolis. Tickets for the event: https://dirrrt.fyi/paywritersDavid's Strelka talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ejp4AvetSA00:00:00 Introducing David Rudnick and his work 00:01:10 Raising Funds for Freelancers and Worker-Owned Media 00:03:40 The Future of Journalism and Media Impartiality 00:08:52 Exploring the Intersection of Literature and Graphic Design 00:10:33 David's Journey to Ghent and His Studio Practice 2024-10-301h 16TastelandTastelandEp. 13: Cake Zine's Aliza AbarbanelThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Aliza Abarbanel, co-founder and editor of Cake Zine, a food-centric physical publication that is described as "a hedonistic exploration of history, pop culture, literature, and art through sweets."00:00 Intro to Cake Zine and the Shift From Print to Digital Media02:30 The Role of NY Mag in Media Representation05:53 Tina Brown and the Evolution of Substack10:00 Playboy's Business Challenges and Future Directions12:00 Welcome Aliza - Dessert After Dark17:24 The Benefits and Challenges of Print Media21:06 Defining a Piece...2024-10-2358 minTastelandTastelandEp. 12: Public radio for beginners ft. Elise PeppleThis week on Tasteland we are joined by Elise Pepple, the Executive Director of KRTS Marfa Public Radio. 00:00 Intellectual Property and Collaboration in Journalism 04:35 Music Consumption in the Digital Age 06:54 Introducing Elise Pepple of Marfa Public Radio 11:03 The Salt Institute and Public Radio Training 13:13 Elise's Early Career in Alaska and StoryCorps 15:40 The Attraction of Remote Locations 17:20 Community Building Through Public Radio 25:18 The Mission of Public Radio 28:28 The Broadcast Area of Marfa Public Radio 31:24 Impactful Local Reporting 2024-10-1654 minTastelandTastelandEp. 11: Fragranceland ft. Bibi PrivalThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by fragrance evaluator and perfume expert Bibi Prival to discuss the science behind crafting smells, the evolution of fragrance and making sense of different scents.00:00 Bibi Prival and her journey into the world of fragrance05:00 The importance of smell in education06:41 The secretive nature of the fragrance industry08:59 Losing your sense of smell as a perfumer10:13 Making the jump from fragrance marketing to evaluation15:00 The impact of TikTok of fragrance culture17:36 Francis' first fragrance experiences2024-10-0958 minTastelandTastelandEp. 10: The Largesse of TastelandThis week Daisy and Francis explore the evolution of magazine consumption, the impact of digital media on traditional publishing, and the future of advertising in a rapidly changing landscape. 00:00 The evolution of magazine consumption 06:09 The digital shift in media 12:22 The future of advertising and content creation 14:26 Creators responsibility to their audience 16:21 Media becoming a luxury product 20:13 Defining the modern magazine 25:34 The role of taste in media 28:50 The carcinization and Balkanization of media 34:03 The impact of photography and AI within...2024-10-0354 minTastelandTastelandEp. 9: Debunking ZIRP ft. Joe WeisenthalThis week Daisy and Francis are joined by Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart), one half of Bloomberg's Odd Lots Podcast and one of the biggest names in finance-Twitter. 00:00 Welcoming Joe Weisenthal, our favourite financial poster 02:00 The beard is natures mew 04:02 How working in different mediums shapes your view 10:05 The impact of the Fed rate cuts on startups and everyday people 14:52 The Gen X/Y/Z litmus tests 16:29 Is symbolism behind a quarter of a percent 21:10 The horseshoe of Lina Khan’s popularity 26:52 The tr...2024-09-2558 minTastelandTastelandEp. 8: Trying our best ft. Ty HaneyToday we chat with Ty Haney, founder of Outdoor Voices and now Try Your Best (TYB), a community rewards platform for brands and fans to connect and grow together, and Joggy, a clean, planet-based energy drink.TYB here: tyb.xyz00:00 Sports fan culture and suffering02:36 The Big Dig and its impact on Bostonians05:39 Gen-Z has regrets10:42 Introducing Ty Haney and her ventures14:46 TYB and the gamification of community building16:58 Transitioning from physical and digital startups25:19 Why Web3?26:54 Evolving the...2024-09-181h 05TastelandTastelandEp. 7: We're long Industry (ft. creators Mickey Down and Konrad Kay)This week Francis and Daisy are joined by Mickey Down and Konrad Kay, the writers of HBO's 'Industry'. We take a peek into the writers room and learn about the inspiration behind the show, the intricacies of character development and why they decided to switch things up for season 3.00:00 Why do people buy merch? 07:00 The writers of HBO's Industry: Mickey Down and Konrad Kay 15:12 This would not work in America 30:00 What makes a TV show prestige? 34:32 No one knows what's going on 45:40 Improving as writers 2024-09-1156 minTastelandTastelandEp. 6: Here for the Wrong Taste w/ Charles BroskoskiDaisy and Francis are joined by Charles Broskoski aka Cab, co-founder of are.na, to discuss his recent essay 'Here for the Wrong Reasons. Here for the Wrong Reasons: https://www.are.na/editorial/here-for-the-wrong-reasons00:00 Adjust your frame 04:05 Writing is the hardest thing in the world 08:58 Taste nodes 12:24 Entering the are.na 30:05 I wanna talk about AI 34:35 Sharing nodes 44:38 Just be yourself, optimally 2024-09-0452 minTastelandTastelandEp. 5: Mainely OverhypedFor Tasteland's fifth episode, Francis and Daisy dig into modern "cozytech," cozy hardware, discuss the worst songs ever, and open up to each another about how tall they are.00:00 Tasteland height reveal03:37 The price of a lobster roll07:37 The best car crash song15:29 The age of cozytech37:33 Very demure, very trademarked41:23 There we land!2024-08-2847 minTastelandTastelandEp. 4: After School Detention w/ Casey LewisThis week we're joined by Casey Lewis, editor of the After School newsletter and host of the brand new After School podcast. 00:00 Karaoke songs and Insta Reels05:50 Casey Lewis from After School 10:27 Newsletters are oversaturated? 14:10 Make way for the edfluencers? 20:54 Casey's new podcast - After School 27:33 Such a counter culture aesthetic 36:30 Tumblr is for amateurs 2024-08-2145 minTastelandTastelandEp. 3: Your Friendly A.I. TypefaceEpisode 3. This week, we chat music festival curation, what choice of font says about AI brands, being a completist vs. a completionist, and Anthony Bourdain starter packs are cursed.00:00 Intro02:00 Are music festivals just a branding opportunity?06:26 A decade of Spotify07:46 Completionist vs Completist10:00 Bad Waitress - Choosing stories to publish15:52 Anthony Bourdain starter pack19:20 What is "lifestyle"?25:59 Esperanto soccer team32:16 Friendly A.I. font41:33 Stock market panic2024-08-1447 minTastelandTastelandEp. 2: The Freaks Came Out To TasteTasteland returns for its second week with Daisy and Francis discussing the sexy economy of independent journalism, letting people enjoy things, and airport sushi. 00:00 Daisy's FWB Fest Talk 08:56 "Let people enjoy things" 14:42 The legacy of The Village Voice 23:53 Funding local journalism 33:04 Francis is on the farm 36:51 Farmland smuggling 42:00 Doing it for the story 43:27 What is FWB Fest? 2024-08-0746 minTastelandTastelandEp. 1: Welcome to TastelandWelcome to Tasteland!This week Daisy and Francis delve into media slop, Earth Room dates and taste moats.00:00 TikTok vs Reels addiction02:19 Slop and dirt08:08 What is Tasteland?14:05 The taste economy28:41 Learning taste growing up on a farm31:26 Best and worst Reels we saw this week39:57 Earnestness vs. irony (can you like anything ironically?)2024-07-3143 min