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CareTalk: Healthcare. Unfiltered.
Overriding America's Chronic Pain Crisis w/ Jennie Shulkin, Founder of Override Health
Send us a textChronic pain affects more Americans than cancer, heart disease, and diabetes combined, yet it remains one of the most misunderstood and poorly managed health conditions.In this episode of the CareTalk Podcast, John Driscoll sits down with Jennie Shulkin, Founder of Override Health, to discuss how her personal experience with chronic pain led to building a virtual, team-based care model that can revolutionize pain management as we know it.🎙️⚕️ABOUT JENNIE SHULKINOverride Health Founder, Jennie Shulkin, was a nationally ranked tennis and squash player and a stu...
2025-04-18
24 min
Analyzing Healthcare
Is the VA in Crisis? Dr. David Shulkin, Former Secretary of the VA, on DOGE’s Plan and the Politics of the Veterans’ Healthcare
In this conversation, Dr. David Shulkin, former Secretary of the US Department of Veterans Affairs, discusses the current state of the VA, the challenges it faces, and the opportunities for modernization. He emphasizes the need for clear objectives in reforming the VA, the importance of technology in improving efficiency, and the complexities of the relationship between the VA and TRICARE. Shulkin also reflects on the impact of the Mission Act, the necessity for rationalizing the healthcare system, and the political dynamics surrounding veteran care. Title: Is the VA in Crisis? Dr. David Shulkin, Former Secretary...
2025-03-26
00 min
Podnosis
Former VA Secretary Shulkin on the future of health policy
With just a month left until the Nov. 5 presidential election, Fierce Healthcare's Heather Landi spoke with David Shulkin, M.D., to gain his insights on the future of healthcare policy. Shulkin, a healthcare executive, served as the ninth Secretary of Veterans Affairs under the Trump administration. Notably, he was the only cabinet member retained from the Obama administration, after serving 18 months as the VA’s Under Secretary for Health. In their conversation, Shulkin also reflected on his time as VA Secretary, including his decision to award Cerner a $10 billion, no-bid contract to replace the VA’s ou...
2024-10-02
18 min
Journey Through The Most Transformative Full Audiobook Today!
Heroic Measures: A forensic technothriller by Joel Shulkin M.D.
Please visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/812397to listen full audiobooks. Title: Heroic Measures: A forensic technothriller Series: #1 of Death Benefits Author: Joel Shulkin M.D. Narrator: Joel Shulkin M.D. Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 9 hours 30 minutes Release date: August 21, 2024 Genres: Suspense Publisher's Summary: The medical examiner’s job is to speak for the dead and protect the living. But what happens when the dead speak for themselves? Stephen Englehart, an Armed Forces medical examiner. dedicates his life to bringing peace to the families of fallen soldiers. Tagged as one of the best, he’s able to spot forensic clues others miss...
2024-08-21
9h 30
Listen to Best Full Audiobooks in Mystery, Thriller & Horror, Suspense
Heroic Measures: A forensic technothriller by Joel Shulkin M.D.
Please visithttps://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/812397to listen full audiobooks. Title: Heroic Measures: A forensic technothriller Series: #1 of Death Benefits Author: Joel Shulkin M.D. Narrator: Joel Shulkin M.D. Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 9 hours 30 minutes Release date: August 21, 2024 Genres: Suspense Publisher's Summary: The medical examiner’s job is to speak for the dead and protect the living. But what happens when the dead speak for themselves? Stephen Englehart, an Armed Forces medical examiner. dedicates his life to bringing peace to the families of fallen soldiers. Tagged as one of the best, he’s able to spot forensic clues others miss...
2024-08-21
9h 30
Best Full Audiobooks in Mystery, Thriller & Horror, Suspense
Heroic Measures: A forensic technothriller by Joel Shulkin M.D.
Please visit https://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/812397 to listen full audiobooks. Title: Heroic Measures: A forensic technothriller Series: #1 of Death Benefits Author: Joel Shulkin M.D. Narrator: Joel Shulkin M.D. Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 9 hours 30 minutes Release date: August 21, 2024 Genres: Suspense Publisher's Summary: The medical examiner’s job is to speak for the dead and protect the living. But what happens when the dead speak for themselves? Stephen Englehart, an Armed Forces medical examiner. dedicates his life to bringing peace to the families of fallen soldiers. Tagged as one of the best, he’s able to spot forensic clues other...
2024-08-21
05 min
Inspiring Women with Laurie McGraw
Relief in store for those suffering from chronic pain. Jennie Shulkin on why she created Override. || EP. 144
Laurie McGraw is speaking with Inspiring Woman Jennie Shulkin, Founder and CEO of Override Health at HLTH 2023. This is the next episode of this Inspiring Women collaboration highlighting several of the extraordinary women leaders in the 7Wire family. Jennie joined forces with her father, Dr. David Shulkin, former US Secretary of the VA to address to create Override and to address chronic pain. Why? Two traumatic brain injuries left her with complex chronic pain and seeking treatment was not just hard, it was near impossible. Today, one in five people live with some...
2024-01-09
18 min
The Daily Beans
Refried Beans: Chicken on the Fridge (feat. Steve Vladeck, David Shulkin) Original Air Date:
Original Air Date: Nov 30, 2020More cabinet picks loom for the Biden administration, the Felix Sater money laundering case is moving forward, Rudy Giuliani holds a “hearing” in Arizona as they certify their results today for Biden, Trump claims the FBI and DoJ rigged the election against him, and the second half of my interview with my former boss the former Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin, plus AG and Dana deliver your Good News.Follow our guests on twitter:Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck)Nat.Sec.L. Podcast (@NSLpodcast) co-h...
2023-12-10
1h 02
The DaVinci Hour
Interview with David Shulkin, M.D., 9th Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs and Digital Health Innovation Advisor │ Making an Impact Across the Private and Public Healthcare Sectors
In this episode Maxwell Cooper, M.D. interviews David Shulkin, M.D. who served as the 9th Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs under Presidents Obama and Trump, former hospital system CEO, and current digital health advisor. Dr. Shulkin begins by describing his journey to becoming involved in hospital administration and his roles as Chief Medical Officer and CEO at multiple health systems. He then describes his appointment as the 9th Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs under President Obama, a role he continued into the Trump administration. Dr. Shulkin gives an overview of his role as...
2023-11-05
27 min
CareTalk: Healthcare. Unfiltered.
Transforming Veteran Healthcare with David Shulkin, MD
Send us a textDr. David Shulkin was appointed by President Obama, then promoted to the Cabinet to head the Department of Veterans Affairs and eventually fired by President Trump. Now in the private sector he’s a dogged advocate for veterans and involved in everything from drug pricing to living to 100.In this episode, Dr. Shulkin joins CareTalk to discuss everything from rural health to improving veteran care in the US.🎙️⚕️ABOUT CARETALKCareTalk is a weekly podcast that provides an incisive, no B.S. view of the US healthcare industry. Join co-hos...
2023-10-27
28 min
PT Elevated
Override Health | Jennie Shulkin
Jennie Shulkin is a lawyer, co-founder and CEO of Override Health, a multi-specialty chronic pain program. She was a division one athlete in college that suffered two traumatic brain injuries. Soon after she developed a complex chronic pain syndrome affecting multiple parts of her body. As best she could, Jennie continued living her life – pushing through Harvard Law School and building a career in law. All the while, she carried the burden of the agonizing, time-consuming, expensive, and both physically and emotionally painful journey of seeking pain relief. When each medication, intervention, and various other treatments failed, the treating pr...
2023-03-10
27 min
Beat Cancer
Quitting Tobacco: A discussion with Elisa Tong, M.D. and Cari Shulkin, R.N.
Co-hosts Stephanie Winn and Chris Joyce sit down with Elisa Tong, M.D. and Cari Shulkin, R.N. of the UC Davis Comprehensive Cancer Center. Dr. Tong is the Medical Director for the Stop Tobacco Program at the Cancer Center and works closely with tobacco treatment partners in UC Davis Health Management Education and Kick It California. Dr. Tong's research interests are in tobacco control policy and cessation, with special interests in health services delivery of tobacco treatment, interventions to address tobacco and cancer disparities, and the behavioral impact of smoke and tobacco-free policies. Cari Shulkin is board-certified in...
2022-07-06
34 min
Digital Health Business
Dr. David Shulkin || The US Government Perspective
In our first episode, we hosted the honorable Dr. David Shulkin, the ninth Secretary of the US Department of Veterans Affairs in the Trump Administration and VA’s Under Secretary of Health in the Obama Administration, and a seasoned executive leader for many provider organizations. The conversation with Dr. Shulkin touched on the complexities of working with the US government and the VA; how to better interact with large provider organizations; and why we should all stop using the word “pilot”. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidshulkin/פרק 1- זווית ממשלת ארצות הברית בעסקי הבריאות הדיגיטלית – בפרק זה, ארחנו את ד"ר דיויד שולקין, השר התשיעי לענייני ה- Veterans affairs בממשל טראמפ ואובמה.השיחה עם ד"ר שולקין נגעה במורכבות העבודה עם ממשלת ארה"ב ונתנה זווית מעניינת על השאלה "איך ליצור אינטראקציה טובה יותר עם ספקים גדולים כדוגמת ה Veteran Affairs המעניק שירותי בריאות למעל ל 12 מיליון אמריקאים".Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidshulkin/We would love to connect and have your feedback!Website: www.arkinholdings.com/healthc...
2022-07-04
26 min
Policy Vets
How Does the VA Continue to Innovate and Compete Moving Forward
Rob Thomas, who is the former Assistant Secretary for Information Technology & Chief Information Officer (SES) for the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, talks with Secretary Shulkin and Lou about his time at VA, how the Cerner implementation decision was made, and what VA needs to do in the future to compete.
2022-01-14
41 min
Policy Vets
Season 2 Opener with Dr. David Shulkin and Lou Celli
Today, Secretary Shulkin and Lou Celli discuss what is coming up for Policy Vets as they work to keep policy issues on track, post-pandemic.
2022-01-07
13 min
Policy Vets
Human Connection to reduce Veteran Suicide and Helping Afghan Refugees
Dr. Keita Franklin, the Chief Clinical Officer at Loyal Source, joins Dr. Shulkin and Lou as they discuss the impact the VA has had in reducing Veteran Suicide, and also discuss the work she is doing to help Afghan Refugees, as well as the Columbia Lighthouse Project. She notes the Call Center to help Afghan Refugees, which is open 8am-8pm. The number is1-855-341-5456
2021-12-10
34 min
The Reset Podcast
Episode 228: Putting People First with Lonn Shulkin
Welcome to today's great episode with Lonn Shulkin, the CEO at BAM Strategy. We talk about his first job, his unpaid internship with a sports team, and his not liking the working for sports so much that he switched to working for a marketing team, and eventually got to BAM. We talk about what makes Lonn stay at BAM, even though in our industry people normally bounce around from agency to agency. We talk about how much everything has changed over the last year and is still different from COVID. We talk about Careiosity™ and so much more.
2021-12-07
40 min
Policy Vets
Veterans Day Reflections
Secretary Shulkin and Lou Celli discuss Veterans Day and reflect on the podcast's many guests, as well as the reaction they've received.
2021-11-12
17 min
Policy Vets
The UK Wants to Team with the US to help Veterans
Professor Renata Gomes joins Secretary Shulkin and Lou to discuss Bravo Victor, a UK-based group dedicated towards focusing the world’s best research scientists to improve the lives of the visually impaired and veterans. Professor Gomes is the Chief Scientific Officer at BRAVO VICTOR, Blind Veterans UK Group (https://www.bravovictor.org/)
2021-10-22
31 min
Policy Vets
Veterans Education - Villains and Victories
Chris Madaio and Will Hubbard join Secretary Shulkin and Lou to discuss the successes of the GI bill. They also discuss those educational institutions, who for profit motive, have acted as predators towards service members and veterans. Chris and Will both hold Vice President positions at Veterans Education Success (https://vetsedsuccess.org), a non-profit of bipartisan policy experts, academic researchers, lawyers and advocates dedicated to bridging the military-civilian divide to ensure career and education success for military families.
2021-10-15
31 min
Policy Vets
The Honorable Dr. Phil Roe and the 115th Congress Veterans Bills - Where Are They Now?
Dr. Phillip Roe, the former Chairman of the House Veteran Affairs Committee, speaks with Secretary Shulkin and Lou about what he's doing now, what should be a priority for congress with regards to veterans, and what he wishes he could have done while in office.
2021-10-08
54 min
Policy Vets
The Data on Veteran Suicides - Far Outweighing Deaths in Military Operations
Dr. Ben Suitt joins Secretary Shulkin and Lou to talk about his recent study regarding the shockingly high numbers of veteran suicides. He explains that the recent drop in suicides reported by the VA, might just be a numbers game that doesn't reflect reality.
2021-09-17
39 min
Policy Vets
Art Helps Veterans, and Lou is Cheap
Today, Secretary Shulkin and Lou speak with AnnMarie Halterman, who is the Executive Director of Uniting Us (https://unitingus.org/), which uses art therapy to support the veteran community as they deal with trauma, physical disability, or life in general.
2021-09-03
27 min
Policy Vets
General David Petraeus - The United States Should Have a Permanent Footprint in Afghanistan
In today's special episode, Secretary Shulkin and Lou are joined by General David Petraeus. General Petraeus served Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and before retiring from a 37 year Army career, served as the Commander of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and Commander, U.S. Forces – Afghanistan. He speaks to the tragedy that is occurring in Afghanistan, and provides words of encouragement to veterans who are struggling with the U.S. Withdrawal.
2021-08-30
57 min
Policy Vets
The Cost of War is Realized Long After we Leave the Battlefield
Lou Celli and guest host Charlie Malone, stepping in for Secretary Shulkin this week, are joined by Dr. Linda J. Bilmes, Harvard Kennedy School Professor and the Daniel Patrick Moynihan Senior Lecturer in Public Policy and Public Finance. This week they talk about the true financial costs of war, which according to her research are woefully understated, and neglect to account for taking care of veterans future needs.
2021-08-27
52 min
Policy Vets
What is happening with the Cerner rollout at VA and DoD?
Dr. David Shulkin and Executive Director Lou Celli sit down with Cerner Senior Vice President & General Manager Brian Sandager to talk about the electronic health record modernization project. What's going well, what didn't go well, and how they plan to fix it going forward.
2021-08-20
1h 03
Policy Vets
Recent Afghan Ambassador to US Roya Rahmani - Afghanistan Government Crumbles
Recent Afghanistan Ambassador to The United States Roya Rahmani sits down with former Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs Dr. David Shulkin Executive Director Louis Celli to describe the final days of democratic Afghan rule as the Taliban move into the Presidential Palace.
2021-08-17
46 min
Policy Vets
Securing the Veteran Service Organization's Voice for the future
Sherman Gillums joins Secretary Shulkin and Lou Celli to talk about Veteran Service Organizations (VSO's) and what they need to do in order to ensure veterans continue to have a voice. Sherman has served as a veteran, VSO Executive, and now as an advocate.
2021-08-13
46 min
Thirty Minute Mentors
Episode 81: Former Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin
A national leader in the field of healthcare management, Dr. David Shulkin served as Secretary of Veterans Affairs and has held leadership positions at five major hospitals and hospital systems. Secretary Shulkin joins Adam to share his journey and best lessons learned along the way. Secretary Shulkin and Adam discuss how to lead and drive change at large bureaucratic organizations; lessons from working for dramatically different presidents; the intersection of ethics, leadership and service; and much more.
2021-07-27
33 min
Policy Vets
Military Sexual Assault - Does it Degrade Military Readiness
Join Dr. Shulkin and Lou Celli as they speak with Phillis Wilson and Lucy Del Gaudio. Phyllis is a retired Chief Warrant Officer 5 and Policy Vets BOD member, and Lucy is a Military Sexual Assault victim who works to advocate for other Military Sexual Trauma victims. Different eras, different experiences, same problem - is it getting any better?
2021-07-16
46 min
Policy Vets
Are race relations a national security issue?
Join Dr. Shulkin and Lou Celli as they speak to Reuben Keith Green and Gloria Dent. Keith is the author of "Black Officer, White Navy", and Gloria is a small business owner. Both had long careers in the military and have a perspective on race in the military that is especially important considering recent events.
2021-07-09
45 min
Policy Vets
"He returned a hero, and died a villain" Danica Thomas Talks about SSG Allen Thomas
Dr. David Shulkin and Lou Celli speak with Ms. Danica Thomas, who shares her story about her husband Army Staff Sergeant Allen Thomas; how they met, what happened to SSG Thomas in Afghanistan; and the tragic afternoon he left the VA and murdered two people he had never met thinking they were enemy combatants before taking his own life.
2021-07-01
43 min
Policy Vets
Service Dogs Pt. 2 Increasing Our Paw Print in Support of Veterans.
Dr. Gordon Sumner, President and CEO of Veterans Moving Forward (https://vetsfwd.org/staff/) and Cole Lyle, President of the Working Warrior Foundation (https://workingwarriorfoundation.org/) join Dr. Shulkin and Lou in talking about how to increase our paw print in support of veterans without wasting taxpayer dollars on scientific studies.
2021-06-25
42 min
Policy Vets
Service Dogs Pt. 1 How service animal regulation affect Veterans
In part 1 of this two part series Donald Overton and Danique Masingill join with Dr. Shulkin and Lou to talk about the power of animal regulation for the future of Veteran support. Donald is the Executive Director of the Blinded Veterans Association (https://bva.org/), and Danique is the Co-Founder and President of Leashes of Valor (https://leashesofvalor.org/).
2021-06-18
32 min
Podcast – The Race to Value Podcast™
Ep 46 – A Call to Serve: Improving the Health of our Veterans, with Dr. David Shulkin
This month is National Military Appreciation Month and with this week’s episode we take opportunity to offer our solemn regard and deep gratitude to the brave men, women, and their families who have served our nation with selflessness, gallantry, and sacrifice in upholding our foremost ideals of liberty. We are grateful for their nobility, for their duty, and for their sacrifice and that they “loved country more than self” so that we may live in a nation that is free. We are grateful that our liberty and our pursuits of virtue, equity, and happiness continue to be protecte...
2021-05-17
42 min
Health Policy – The Race to Value Podcast™
Ep 46 – A Call to Serve: Improving the Health of our Veterans, with Dr. David Shulkin
This month is National Military Appreciation Month and with this week’s episode we take opportunity to offer our solemn regard and deep gratitude to the brave men, women, and their families who have served our nation with selflessness, gallantry, and sacrifice in upholding our foremost ideals of liberty. We are grateful for their nobility, for their duty, and for their sacrifice and that they “loved country more than self” so that we may live in a nation that is free. We are grateful that our liberty and our pursuits of virtue, equity, and happiness continue to be protecte...
2021-05-17
42 min
The Race to Value Podcast
Ep 46 – A Call to Serve: Improving the Health of our Veterans, with Dr. David Shulkin
This month is National Military Appreciation Month and with this week’s episode we take opportunity to offer our solemn regard and deep gratitude to the brave men, women, and their families who have served our nation with selflessness, gallantry, and sacrifice in upholding our foremost ideals of liberty. We are grateful for their nobility, for their duty, and for their sacrifice and that they “loved country more than self” so that we may live in a nation that is free. We are grateful that our liberty and our pursuits of virtue, equity, and happiness continue to be protecte...
2021-05-17
42 min
ננו חלל
פרק 13 אבי שבתאי שולח מערכות מחשוב לשמש
בפרק הזה אני מארח Avi Shabtai מנכ"ל רמון ספייס שמתכננים מחשוב חלל לשלל כוכבי הלכת כולל השמשHave you listen to my Nano Space podcast already? In this podcast I host space experts!On my last podcast I hosted Avi Shabtai , CEO of Ramon SpaceLink at the first comment.I am looking for people who want to talk about their space work (in Hebrew or English) so if you want send me a messageNataniel Shulkin, סוכנות החלל הישראלית
2021-05-02
33 min
Millennium Live | A Leadership & Discovery Podcast
Episode 110 | David Shulkin
#MillenniumLive CEO Series: Former Secretary for U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, David Shulkin, joins the podcast with our Co-Founder Alex Sobol to discuss his career path. Secretary Shulkin shares his success stories while working in government, and priorities in healthcare leadership.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
2021-04-20
44 min
Policy Vets
Jon Stewart Talks Toxic Exposure and Burn Pits: Part 1
Jon Stewart, toxic exposure activist and award-winning comedian best known for his long-running stint as the host of 'The Daily Show with Jon Stewart' Joins Policy Vets podcast hosts The Honorable Dr. David Shulkin, 9th Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Executive Director Lou Celli to talk about the toxic exposures associated with military deployment and the devastating health effects on our military members poisoned by burn pits.This candid discussion will be followed by a press conference in Washington D.C. to introduce legislation recognizing the illnesses and diseases associated with this exposure, and what congress is...
2021-04-09
15 min
Inside the War Room: Case Studies in Crisis
Episode 3: Former US Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin on Crisis Leadership and the VA “Wait Time” Issue
David Shulkin, Former Secretary of the United States Veterans Affairs (U.S. VA), discusses his response to the VA “wait time” crisis after his appointment by President Obama – where many U.S. veterans could not access urgently needed healthcare through the nation’s veterans’ hospitals. Shulkin also takes listeners through an array of crises managed while working for the government, including the Pulse nightclub shooting and the Charlottesville riots, and how he stood by his principles – even at the risk of dismissal from public service.
2021-04-06
54 min
Policy Vets
What is Policy Vets? With Former. SECVA David Shulkin and Executive Director Louis Celli
What is Policy Vets? A quick overview of who, and what Policy Vets is, and where we are going.
2021-03-31
10 min
The Bookshop at the End of the Internet
Bookshop Interview with Author Joel Shulkin, Episode #103
Author Dr. Joel Shulkin discusses his debut novel, Adverse Effects. What would you do if you were the only passenger riding an otherwise empty bus and, when the bus makes a stop, a stranger gets on and sits down in the seat directly behind you? If you are Joel Shulkin, you write a book about it. When Joel found himself in that exact situation, the inspiration for his book, Adverse Effects, was born. Adverse Effects is a medical and psychological thriller with a bit of espionage thrown in for good measure.
2021-01-27
24 min
In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt
A Pandemic With No Presidential Transition (with David Shulkin)
Andy talks about what should be happening with the presidential transition right now in terms of managing the pandemic. Former Trump VA Secretary David Shulkin provides expertise on how a typical transition goes — and the cost of President Trump’s refusal to concede. David was there for the Obama-Trump transition and details how he sees today's norm-shattering process playing out. The saving grace, as Andy points out, is that President-Elect Biden knows his way around the White House blindfolded. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow David Shulkin...
2020-11-16
49 min
A Few Things with Jim Barrood
#1 Leadership Chat: Secretary David Shulkin, the ninth Secretary of the US Department of Veterans Affairs
Secretary David Shulkin, the ninth Secretary of the US Department of Veterans Affairs, shares insights about his service to two very different Presidents and the current state of public service as he discusses his best selling book, It Shouldn’t Be This Hard To Serve Your Country.American veterans face a number of challenges in the country today - from chronic homelessness to mental health issues and PTSD to a chaotic and understaffed VA. While technology has evolved to keep up with the needs of the United States military, the same change and care for veterans are of...
2020-10-22
43 min
Difficult Conversations -Lessons I learned as an ICU Physician
Caring for Our Veterans with the Honorable Dr. David Shulkin
Caring for Our Veterans with the Honorable Dr. David ShulkinWelcome to the Difficult Conversations with Dr. Anthony Orsini. This week my extra special guest is the Honorable Dr. David Shulkin, who is currently CEO of Shulkin Solutions. He was the Ninth Secretary of the US Dept of Veteran Affairs, nominated by President Trump to serve his cabinet. Prior to serving as Secretary of the VA, he served as Under Secretary for Health under President Obama, and unanimously confirmed twice by the US Senate. Dr. Shulkin represented 21 million American veterans and was responsible for the na...
2020-10-05
43 min