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The Wise JezebelsThe One Where Season One is OverWe are so thrilled that Mark Driscoll gave the Jezebel spirit a shout out at the stronger men’s conference last weekend! Cheers to the Wise Jezebels spirit! On today’s episode we celebrate our 30th episode and talk a little bit about where we are at in our personal lives, what we have going on, coming up and give a little announcement! Stay fresh betches! Pre-order Tia’s book, A Well-Trained Wife Religious Trauma + Elections Course use code WISEJEZEBELS for $15 off! The views and opinions expressed by the hosts of the...2024-04-2323 minThe Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About Church-Sanctioned Domestic Abuse (Re-release)What do you when your church says abuse and mistreatment is okay? And that it’s not only ok, but it’s God’s design. And what if you’ve identified abuse in your relationship but now notice you’ve had the same experience in your church and maybe even what you’ve been taught about God? Is any faith community safe for women? Today’s episode explores church-sanctioned domestic abuse and intimate partner violence. We deconstruct that old saying, “Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater and find the shades of gray. Popping into Pop Cu...2024-04-1648 minThe Wise JezebelsThe One Where Sexual Assault Isn’t FunnyApril is Sexual Assault Awareness month so we thought it was only fitting that we talked about pastors who make “jokes” about sex and how women should respond to men as a wifely obligation. If this sounds familiar to what’s been going around on social media with mega church pastor Josh Howerton, you’re correct! The Wise Jezebels break down how harmful that messaging is (and yes, we look at it in context at his followers request which, spoiler alert: makes it worse!) and how it creates dynamics in a relationship that are often difficult to come back from. We...2024-04-091h 02The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Don’t Have it All TogetherSometimes, we just don’t have it all together, and that’s what was up for the Wise Jezebels in today’s episode! Laugh along with Tia the space cadet and messy-girl Laura as they talk about their relief in not needing to be perfect and normalizing having off moments…or weeks. We also talk about the “God Bless the USA” Bible, the “Little Pink Pill” and Laura’s experience of having a hot flash while wearing (vegan) leather pants. Stay fresh, betches! Resources We Talked About Today: Addyi (The Little Pink Pill) Halle Berry...2024-04-0247 minThe Wise JezebelsThe One with Non-Consensual Consensual Advice - March EditionYou’re asking and we have answers! It’s time for the March edition of the Non-Consensual, Consensual Advice! We are talking about everything from honoring your father and mother to being diagnosed with a mental health disorder to feeling ostracized for not being religious. And we’re also tackling some of the lighter stuff like our obsession with popcorn, favorite chick flicks and and the pranks we used to pull on people! You can submit your questions and stories anytime on the contact page of our website! Stay fresh, betches! Pre-order Tia’s book, A...2024-03-261h 12The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Remember Being 19 (re-release)Girl Interrupted! Do you remember what you were like at 19? Hey betches! Today’s episode goes back in time to who we were before everything changed at 19, both of us experiencing life-altering relationships at that age and encountering messaging that’s taken years to unpack. We dive into what happened, how we were impacted, and what we’ve learned. If you know what it’s like to be 40 going on 19, you’ll get it! And the clouds of brain fog and confusion part for a peek at the Menopause Minute too. Do us a favor? If...2024-03-1950 minThe Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Expand the Conversation on Purity CulturePurity culture is more than abstinence education. But how far does it go? In this episode Laura and Tia widen the lens and explore the impacts of a purity mindset on racism, history, fundamentalism, book bans, current events, and more. We also take a closer look at Ozempic and Oprah, as well as a highly entertaining game of TWO TRUTHS AND A LIE. Stay fresh, betches! Resources We Talked About Today: Virgin Nation by Sara Moslener Pre-order Tia’s book, A Well-Trained Wife Religious Trauma + Elections Course use code WIS...2024-03-121h 20The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We’re Almost Famous in HeavenHow can you make your inner child feel safe? What is parts work like? Do we get famous in heaven? What’s up with Amy Schumer and Princess Kate? What’s fresh fruit and how do you find it? We’re all over these questions in this episode. Oh, and can you be famous in heaven or is that just for Jesus? Stay fresh, betches! Resources We Talked About Today: School of Life by Alain de Bottom No Bad Parts by Richard C. Schwartz You are Not Broken - Dr. Kel...2024-03-051h 17The Wise JezebelsThe One with Non-Consensual Consensual Advice–February EditionWe’re taking your questions for this month’s episode of Non-Consensual, Consensual Advice! We’ve got a wide range of questions, everything from purity culture, dealing with abusive exes, the grossest foods we’ve eaten, guilty pleasures and…what our favorite positions are?!? We also do our monthly accountabilibuddies check in where both Tia and Laura share that February was much more difficult January Stay fresh, betches! Resources We Talked About Today: Emily Nagoski - Come as You Are and Come Together Mary Claire’s Website (Nationwide directory of patient-approved gynecologists...2024-02-271h 04The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Undress Rape CultureWomen dress modestly to stay safe around men who think that immodest women are asking for it, when in fact, we are in the most danger when we are modest in sexually repressed environments. When Tia shared the comments that stemmed from her reel about pants and fundies with no undies (@tialevingswriter) the Jezzies had to mash the fruit of modest culture and r@pe myths. Also in this episode: Gwen Shamblin’s son in pop culture and a big segment on perimenopause and medical gaslighting. Stay fresh, betches! Resources We Talke...2024-02-201h 17The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About Relationships During PerimenopauseWe are finally seeing more information and education on perimenopause but don’t really hear a lot of conversations about the practical implications on relationships. That’s about to change as the Wise Jezebels dive into how perimenopause impacted their relationships, romance, and connections in the past and present. We also discussing all the pop culture headlines like the Grammys, Taylor Swift, Prince Charles and more! And then it’s time to talk about sex…specifically the differences and relationship between embodied affection and orgasms. It’s an episode you won’t want to miss! Stay fr...2024-02-131h 13The Wise JezebelsThe One Where Talk About Purity CultureThe Wise Jezebels are talking all things purity culture! From the hilarious things they did–like Laura’s husband journal–to the long term impacts of purity culture. They both acknowledge how much more difficult it’s been to resolve the way purity culture lives in their body than physical acts of sexualized violence and some of what they have engaged in for healing. This episode is light and deep, vulnerable, and hilarious–there’s something for everyone! We also talk about Taylor Swift and the media outlets who are politicizing her relationship and appearances at his games, do an...2024-02-061h 19The Wise JezebelsThe One Where Give Non-Consensual Consensual Advice - January EditionWhat’s a husband box? Come find out! We had a Q and A heyday this month! We get into the deep stuff (and the fun stuff) with the Seven Mountain Mandate, Dominionism and armament, what to tell the kids when you leave domestic abuse, Valentine’s Day, hymns that become ear worms, Christian Mean Girls and more. Stay fresh, betches! Resources from Today: Come As You Are by Emily Nagoski Come Together by Emily Nagoski Sexual Healing (audio only) by Peter Levine The views a...2024-01-301h 01The Wise JezebelsThe One Where Talk About Embodied FundamentalismThe Wise Jezebels are ready to take on a topic they have a lot of thoughts about! Ever wonder why it is that some people develop large platforms overnight–followed by offering coaches, services, and most of all, a path to healing…and why are people so enamored with them? On this episode we discuss the concept of embodied fundamentalism–that is, how fundamentalism lives in our bodies even after religion–and how it shows up in our present day lives and relationships. We also talk about Gypsy Rose Blanchard, the Iowa Caucus and answer a listener question...2024-01-2347 min
A Little Bit CultyWise Jezebel: Dr. Laura Anderson On When Religion HurtsThis episode is sponsored by Better Help. Today we welcome Wise Jezebel and former fundie Dr. Laura Anderson to the ALBC huddle. She’s a psychotherapist, podcaster, and smarty-pants content creator specializing in helping people come back from the sneaky scars of high control religion. She’s also the author of the next book you need to read. Seriously. We cannot recommend it enough and it’s called: When Religion Hurts You: Healing from Religious Trauma and the Impact of High Control Religion. Dr. Anderson is here with us to talk about her story, the ways and means of culty...2024-01-221h 08The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About TraumaversariesTraumaversaries– what are they, how do they show up, why do they impact our daily lives years later? We’re deep-diving into the ways memorable events are stored in our bodies and what we can do about it. This episode also gets into the Golden Globe monologue debacle and a brand new segment about what’s keeping us up at night. COMING SOON is our Consensual Non-Consensual Advice segment so be sure to send your questions into our DMs. Stay fresh, betches! Resources from Today: Tia’s Substack Laura’s Substack Laur...2024-01-1643 minThe Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Know Ourselves“To thine own self be true” is from Hamlet. But in our Christian backgrounds, we were taught it was romantic and ideal for a male partner to know us better than we know ourselves. Ditto pastors and any external authority. In today’s episode, we deconstruct the dark side of that dependence and its complementarian roots. Also up, the Golden Bachelor Royal Wedding and a super-disturbing cult leader video with AntiChrist and End Times vibes all over it. We wrap it up with our very own 23/24 In and Out list! Stay fresh, betches! Resources from Today:2024-01-0959 minThe Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Become AccountabilibuddiesResolutions and goals look different on the backside of fundamentalism! In this chat, we compare and contrast what goal setting looks like then versus now, what our words for the year are and why, and how we’re going to reclaim accountability (fun) with each other. Also on tap is a Golden Bachelor royal wedding update and a relationship segment on arrested development you won’t want to miss. Stay fresh, betches! Resources from Today: Reel @getcliterate via @yvettesegan #wisejezebels #podcastsforwomen #popculture #perimenopause #panera #goldenbachelor #womenshealthcare #arresteddevelopment #emotionaldevelopment #gypsiero...2024-01-021h 08The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Give Non-Consensual, Consensual Advice - December EditionIt’s our December edition of Non-Consensual, Consensual Advice and we got some great questions from you! We’ll be talking everything from skin care routines and fashion to navigating relationships with grandparents who are still a part of a fundamentalist faith wanting relationships with their grandchildren, to the most valuable lessons we’ve learned this year. We end by giving you some little teasers for the fun stuff we have coming up next year! Stay fresh, betches! Products and Resources from Today: Allison Bornstein 3 words styling method We Can do Ha...2023-12-261h 07The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About Virtue Signaling After ReligionIt’s a growing trend now-a-days to take a strong stance on a given topic or issue in order to show where you stand, make sure you’re on the right side of the issue, and letting people know you’re a safe person. Is silence actually complicity? Is speaking out performative? Is the requirement to speak out and pick a side just another form of fundamentalism? We then get into Neandrathal DNA and holiday traditions and end with a conversation on getting back into the dating game when you have children. Remember to submit us your questio...2023-12-191h 10The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About Man ColdsWe’ve come a long way in healthcare for women but what does that really mean? And what about “man colds” and the differences in emotional labor for men and women? Should we take a lesson from them or persevere? This episode also gets in the Golden Bachelor finale, Diddy indicted, and how to not die at Panera. Oh….and what to look for in a vibrator! Stay fresh, betches! Resources from Today: Unwell Women The Women They Couldn’t Silence #wisejezebels #podcastsforwomen #popculture #perimenopause #panera #goldenbachelor #womenshealthc...2023-12-1255 minThe Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About Church-Sanctioned Domestic AbuseWhat do you when your church says abuse and mistreatment is okay? And that it’s not only ok, but it’s God’s design. And what if you’ve identified abuse in your relationship but now notice you’ve had the same experience in your church and maybe even what you’ve been taught about God? Is any faith community safe for women? Today’s episode explores church-sanctioned domestic abuse and intimate partner violence. We deconstruct that old saying, “Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater and find the shades of gray. Popping into Pop Cu...2023-12-051h 07The Wise JezebelsNovember Non-Consensual Consensual AdviceIt’s the end of the month which means we are giving you our non-consensual, consensual advice! Tune in to hear the Wise Jezebels talk about making friends, medication, and redefining relationships! We are always interested in hearing your questions! Leave them in our DM’s the AMA boxes on social media or through our website. We’ll remove all identifying information and give you our wisdom on an episode! Stay fresh, betches! Resources from Today: The Struggle to Stay - Katie Gaddini The Loneliness Files - Athena Dickson #w...2023-11-2846 minThe Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About Our First PeriodsHow many of you have a complicated relationship with your period–how you think about it, how you were taught about it, and the symptoms that have gone along with it? Join Tia and Laura for a conversation about their first periods, the “talk”, how they navigated PMS and what their cycles are like now as they are in perimenopause! After that we’ll be getting a brief update of the Golden Bachelor and then we’ll take a deep dive into Covenant Eyes–a porn accountability program that is being talked about after our new speaker of the house, Mike...2023-11-211h 11The Wise JezebelsThe One About Rotten MLMsHow many MLMs have you joined? The Wise Jezebels are examining the fruit of that pyramid scheme and the shame tactics used to pull you in. We’re also checking on the Golden Bachelor and our favorite TV shows–right before we introduce a new segment on dating norms after purity culture–CLUSTERS OF FRUIT Do us a favor? If you’re loving the show, will you leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts? We have thousands of downloads and we’d love to hear from you! What segment are you liking the best so far? Wha...2023-11-141h 07The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Remember Being 19Girl Interrupted! Do you remember what you were like at 19? Hey betches! Today’s episode goes back in time to who we were before everything changed at 19, both of us experiencing life-altering relationships at that age and encountering messaging that’s taken years to unpack. We dive into what happened, how we were impacted, and what we’ve learned. If you know what it’s like to be 40 going on 19, you’ll get it! We also pop into pop culture with a Golden Bachelor versus Purity Culture update and the passing of Matthew Perry. And the clouds o...2023-11-071h 16The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Give Non-Consensual Consensual AdviceHey betches! It’s our first full episode of Non-Consensual Consensual Advice–the segment where you ask the questions and we share our wise advice! This month we’re discussing: How do I figure out what clothing I actually want to wear outside of modesty culture? I want to teach my kids about the bible but don't want to make it seem like it's the only option or turn them off. And I have a trauma response everytime I try What is your faith like right now? Can we talk ab...2023-10-3140 minThe Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About... Showing up for your FriendsHey betches. It’s time to talk about friendships…and how difficult it can be to find friends, especially supportive ones, as an adult woman. Both of us share our experiences with friendships in high control religion, how love-bombing works in relationships even outside of high control religion and ways to find friends outside of church communities. We then get an update from Tia about how she’s liking the “Golden Bachelor” and we talk about Britney Spears’ new book coming out. And finally we share with you some fresh fruit–the progress we are seeing in ourselves as we continue he...2023-10-241h 06The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Scrupulously Examine Religious OCDHey betches. Did you know that “praying without ceasing” and spiritual rituals devised to keep you “safe” has a name? In this episode Tia and Laura breakdown scrupulocity, examining the fruit of compulsive religious behaviors. We’re also popping into pop culture with the Golden Bachelor, Will and Jada, and taking our hot flash into the perimenopause rant you won’t want to miss. The views and opinions expressed by the hosts of the Wise Jezebels are their own. This podcast does not take the place of therapy, medical advice, or any other healing modality. For support in resolving a...2023-10-171h 03The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About…Accidentally Starving OurselvesWe’ve gotten such great feedback about our show that we decided to make it a weekly thing! On this episode of the Wise Jezebels, Tia and Laura are talking about diet culture and body image–as well as how their fundamentalist upbringing led them both to accidentally starve themselves, even when they were trying to intuitively eat! Please note that this episode contains sensitive topics and we understand if you need to skip this one! We also talk about how Laura finally got Tia into watching the Golden Bachelor (spoiler alert: one of us really likes it, one of u...2023-10-101h 01The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About…Sweet Jilly Muffin Finding her VoiceJill Duggar Dillard’s Counting the Cost tops off our second episode, as we deep dive into our impressions, triggers and takeaways. Jill’s memoir is not only the story of how Sweet Jilly Muffin found her voice against the IBLP and her exploitive, oppressive parents–it also offers a window into the Christian Patriarchy’s teachings about how children are to honor their parents even as married adults. We break down the red flags for abuse we found in the book, as well as what goes into writing trauma-memoirs. From there, Tia and Laura Pop Into Pop Culture with a l...2023-10-031h 11The Wise JezebelsThe One Where We Talk About…Down ThereWelcome to the FIRST episode of the Wise Jezebels…a podcast where we discuss pop culture, relevant topics, fundamentalism, and check the fruit! And we are no-holds-barred! We jump right in to talking about our experiences visiting the gynecologist after growing up in a system that taught us abstinence-only sex-education and even discouraged us from using tampons for fear of having any contact with your private parts! Tia and Laura share what they’ve learned since then about their bodies, what some of their current frustrations are, and how they are navigating female health on the outside of high cont...2023-09-1954 minThe Wise JezebelsWelcome to Wise Jezebels!Wise Jezebels is a podcast hosted by Tia Levings and Laura Anderson. Tia and Laura grew up in fundamentalist, high control religion, got out and now have things to say! Each episode these two best friends will be talking about all the things they wish they would have known growing up, discuss pop culture, religious scandal, books, healing, and relationships. Each episode they will be talking with other experts, mental health practitioners, coaches, advocates, therapists and folks who have survived fundamentalist systems, to learn from their experiences and offer resources and support for healing. 2023-09-1401 min