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Early Break – 93.7 The Ticket KNTKThe Sweet 16 is so stacked with big-time coaches that one list puts John Calipari as 10th best of 16…how would the Stool rank the coaches?-College Basketball Report ranked the coaches in order: Kelvin Sampson, Tom Izzo, Matt Painter, Nate Oats, Bruce Pearl, Chris Beard, Rick Barnes, Tommy Lloyd, Jon Scheyer, John Calipari, Dusty May, Todd Golden, Grant McCasland, Mark Pope, Kevin Willard and Kevin Young-BYU had a tremendous year and has looked great in the tournament so far and their coach is ranked last of 16…that’s how good the coaching is the rest of the way…hopefully the games stack up to the hypeShow sponsored by MIDWEST BANKOur Sponsors:* Check out Hims...2025-03-2716 min
Extraordinary Evidence | ESP Is RealEpisode 1: MoonriseEpisode 1: Moonrise For millennia, humanity has pursued higher knowing. In antiquity, soldiers and statesmen turned to oracles such as the prophetess at Delphi and pictogrammatic language of the I-Ching. Seen from a certain perspective, nearly all religion predates science as the wish to know first causes. In that vein, nineteenth-century séances treat gawkers to floating pianos, viscous “ectoplasm” spilling from the orifices of (mostly female) mediums, and ghostly figures materializing. Even Abraham and Mary Todd Lincoln host table-rappings in the White House. Is any of it real? 2024-10-3043 min
Pursuing The ProcessSmile Because It HappenedIn this episode, Jon and Todd reflect on their two-and-a-half year journey as hosts. The guys give out the first-ever Pursuing the Process Awards, including Biggest Blunder, Funniest Moment, Most Memorable Story, Most Difficult Interview, and Most Poignant Experience. This sparks a conversation about what PtP has meant to them and the many lessons they've learned along the way. Our hosts conclude this episode with an important announcement filled with appreciation, gratitude, and celebration. As one chapter closes, another awaits, full of new opportunities, growth, and discovery. Thank you, with utmost sincerity, for being the heartbeat of Pursuing the...2024-01-1244 minPursuing The ProcessI Can't Wait Until the Next DayTwenty-six percent of people in the United States have a disability. Jennifer Luebke is the CEO of Relay Resources, a leading social enterprise with a mission to cultivate meaningful employment for people with disabilities. Fueled by her experiences with her son, Antonio, Jennifer has dedicated a significant amount of her life to advocating for and supporting individuals with physical and intellectual challenges. Jennifer reflects on her career path and how most of her jobs found her based on her desire to learn and grow. She also reminds us of the importance of following your passion and doing meaningful work...2023-12-271h 03
The Dirt Wasp PodcastFocus on Valor Series - "I got one turnin' and one burnin'" Colonel William R. Lawley, Jr. WW II Medal of HonorSend us a textColonel William R. Lawley, Jr., flew B-17s over Europe in World War II. In 1944, then-1st Lieutenant Bill Lawley brought his shot up bomber and severely wounded crew home after a fateful mission over Nazi Germany. In a radio call to the control tower, he made the now-legendary comment that he was inbound "with one turnin' and one burnin." This is his Medal of Honor story.The Focus on Valor Series is introduced by nationally-syndicated radio talk show host First Sergeant Jon-David Wells and is narrated by Colonel Jay Seffern.2023-10-2900 minPursuing The ProcessDon't Take a Backseat to AnybodyIn this episode, Jon and Todd grab time with Joey Hauser, rookie with the Utah Jazz and brother of two-time PtP guest, Sam Hauser. Joey talks about growing up with Sam and how their driveway competitions and experience as three-sport athletes prepared them for life in Division 1 basketball and now the NBA. He reflects on his collegiate career, first playing with Sam at Marquette then transferring to Michigan State during Covid and playing for the legendary Tom Izzo. Joey discusses the ups and downs of his time at MSU and the impact that sports psychology had on his success...2023-10-1043 minPursuing The ProcessLive a Simpler LifeErin Bagniewski left a corporate consulting job after 12 years to find more meaning in her profession. The decision led her to Zambia, where she served as a volunteer teacher. She followed that up with time in Uganda assisting people in gaining access to quality healthcare. Since then, she has become the Executive Director of Africa Strong, an organization created to empower and educate the people of Uganda and across sub-Saharan Africa. Erin shares what she learned from the students in Zambia and the connections she made. Erin also talks about the biggest American misconception about the people of Africa...2023-09-0953 minPursuing The ProcessThe Discharge TentTate Hoeven is the co-host of the “Good Day for a Movie” podcast and the creator and host of “The Passion Project.” Tate’s career arc has centered around following his passions and setting concrete goals for himself. Hear about the “four pillars” Tate uses to structure his approach and how conquering your next peak can be more effective than reaching the summit. The guys also talk about the power of travel and hobbies to help “get off the treadmill” and ways they've recently pushed themselves outside their comfort zones. In the process, Jon reveals what it’s like to experience a sile...2023-07-281h 01
Pro Politics with Zac McCraryFred Davis, One of the Most Creative & Controversial Ad Makers in PoliticsSend us a textFred Davis only ended up in politics due to a family tragedy and then a family connection, and yet has become one of the most creative and controversial ad makers in America. His clients include a who's who of Republican elected officials...from Bush to Dole to McCain to Schwarzenegger among dozens of others. And despite electing Presidents and numerous Republicans up and down the ballot, he's most famous for his unique perspective on advertising that has led to some of the most memorable and controversials spots of the last few decades...the...2023-05-301h 11Pursuing The ProcessWhere In The World Is Jon Barnes?In this episode, Jon shares his journey and location 6 weeks into his trip through Asia. He talks about the memorable experiences and lessons he's had, including crashing a motorbike in Thailand and being swindled out of his dong in Vietnam. The guys also reflect on the importance of being present in life and how that has been shown to directly relate to happiness. Todd talks about fleeting nature of parenthood and his pursuit of the impossible: slowing time down. (Editor's note: 1.2M dong is worth $51 U.S.)2023-04-2947 minPursuing The ProcessJust Be Where You AreA different sound to this episode as the dynamic duo of Todd and Jon are continents apart. Jon hosts this episode with new friends Jan and Greg at a coffee shop in Thailand. The couple grew up in England but now reside in Michigan when they’re not traveling the world! They are musicians who know how to appreciate a good time. Jan helps people find their voice as a vocal instructor while Greg is still shaking off his trauma as a "recovering engineer." Much more than that, they are kind, introspective, open people who seek meaningful connection. Grab an...2023-03-3132 minPursuing The ProcessWhat's It All For?After a nearly four-month hiatus, the boys are back! Hear what motivated them to continue pursuing the process of Pursuing the Process. The guys share what the podcast and all you Pursuers mean to them. Jon also has some major life news to share! And, in doing so, he reflects on the reasons behind his decision and the balance he's trying to strike between learning and earning. Our hosts also discuss the changing perceptions around the "seasons of life" and contemplate ways to enjoy them all.2023-02-1745 min
The Thunderbird Coaches ShowThunderbird Coaches Show Episode 9Jon Smith Sits down with Coach Todd Simon and Dee Barnes to talk about Thunderbird Basketball!2023-02-1429 minPursuing The ProcessKeep Letting It FlyHappy one-year anniversary to us! To celebrate, we decided to run it back with Sam Hauser, guest of episode 2 and guard for the Boston Celtics. Sam discusses his journey from the NBA Developmental League to signing a 3-year, $5.7M contract this summer. Hear about the recent milestones he's achieved in pursuit of his dream to be a full-time NBA player and the excitement of his recent engagement. Sam also talks about the importance of staying humble in the face of so much success and the work ahead of him to achieve his ultimate professional goals. In between, Todd highlights his e...2022-10-2854 minPursuing The ProcessDad, Are We Rich?After a nearly two-month hiatus, Jon and Todd are back and ready to reflect on their recent experiences. The intent of this episode was to talk about their latest adventures and the memories from those. Jon shares what it's like to share tents with four other guys and encounter bears in Alaska, and Todd talks about his first Yankee-Red Sox game at Fenway. What emerges is a discussion about the connection travel has to happiness and relationships. Hear how travel can create everlasting bonds between people and the importance that those relationships play in our lives. The guys also...2022-09-2346 minPursuing The ProcessFigure It OutIn this episode, our hosts catch up with Emanuel "E" Premate. A self-described "professional storyteller," E shares his perspectives on the power of stories, the importance of intentionality in our lives, and the impact of sharing joy with others. He also reflects on his experience surviving the Yugoslavian War, immigrating to the U.S. as a young child, and the valuable life lessons he learned from his parents. Hear E's advice on how you can increase your curiosity and create a cycle of continuous learning in your life. Also tune in to hear about Jon's upcoming vacation plans and...2022-07-2257 min
Pursuing The ProcessProgress Not PerfectionIn 2006, Scott Elston checked himself into rehab. His wife had filed for divorce, his relationship with his kids had eroded, and alcohol had taken over his life. Hear how this decision to seek help saved his life and how he has turned that experience into an opportunity to mentor others going through similar struggles. Scott shares the importance that connection to other people and service to others has had in his recovery and why you never fully "recover" from alcoholism. Scott's story of hope is relevant for us all and aligns perfectly to our theme of "pursuing the process." Also...2022-06-241h 01Pursuing The ProcessLife Isn't Just About The WeekendsIt only took him 13 episodes, but Todd finally gets his wish to become a guest on his own podcast. After working nearly two decades at one company, Todd spent the next 10 months reflecting, networking, exploring, and watching the world go by. Hear why he compares the end of his tenure to a funeral and how his faith in people was renewed through his journey to find the next chapter in his career. Todd also reinforces the importance of trusting your gut and has some tangible advice for people contemplating a career change. Meanwhile, Jon learns what it means to start...2022-05-1350 minPursuing The ProcessThe Brinks Never Follows The HearseBriggs Weyrauch is a modern-day Renaissance man. The owner of a beard-oil business by day and a DJ by night, Briggs defines what it means to pursue your passions. Hear how he feels about the role of failure and the importance of taking advantage of every interaction. And Briggs reflects on the power of gratitude and provides some tips on increasing that feeling in your life. He also reveals some of the wildest things he's seen as a DJ. Oh, and Todd kicks off the episode by announcing his new job. Tune in to hear about it!2022-04-211h 00Pursuing The ProcessPicking The Thing That Scared MeIn this episode, we hang with Cannon Winkler, a self-taught visual artist. Using hand-collected animal tracks to paint distinct patterns, he invokes elements of the wild and our connection to it. Winkler uses his art to raise funding and awareness for environmental conservation around the globe. His unique style of painting was pioneered in the South African Bushveld while he was locked down in a game reserve during the height of the global pandemic. A trained African safari guide, Winkler talks about his unbelievable experiences in the wild as well as why he gave up some great opportunities in corporate...2022-03-1156 minPursuing The ProcessI Didn't Want To Be OutworkedDennis Krause has been the face of Wisconsin sports broadcasting for more than 35 years. Along the way, he has covered some of the most important events and people in sports history. Hear about the time he called John Wooden at his house and the interview he had with Michael Jordan before MJ's first professional game. Also listen to the keys to Dennis' success and how he relied on hard work and the support of his family to overcome a stroke at the height of his career. You'll also get to know some of Jon and Todd's favorite sports memories and...2022-02-2454 minPursuing The ProcessI've Always Been a DreamerA native of Nashville, Dre Mead spent several of his teenage years homeless, bouncing from friends and family and sleeping in his car and working a wide variety of jobs. Yet he graduated high school, started his own business, and is well on his way toward an Electrical Engineering degree at the University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee. Hear Dre's story of perseverance and hope for anyone facing adversity in their lives. Learn how he uses the doubters in his life as motivation to succeed and how he feels when he hears the phrase "the American dream." As an added bonus...2022-02-1151 minPursuing The ProcessWhat Doesn't Kill UsJustin Galloway is in the midst of a commitment to jump into Lake Michigan 300 days in a year. And it's not the first big attempt he's made to create new habits in his life. Nor will it be the last. Find out how Justin has turned his desire for a healthy lifestyle and a pursuit of big challenges into a system of continuous improvement. Justin also describes what it was like to travel with Todd and 3 other guys in an RV to jump in all 5 Great Lakes. Also listen to how Justin became the first two-time guest in the history...2022-01-3150 minPursuing The ProcessFrom Back Alleys To BoardroomsChris Stewart has been a police officer in San Diego, a salesperson at one of the largest corporations in the world, and is now an ordained clergyman. Hear about Chris's story of continuous exploration and his journey fueled by his curiosity and desire to serve others. Learn ways to identify and eliminate fear and the value of getting outside of your bubble. Also hear about how Todd nearly started an international incident during a business trip with Chris in Montana.
Interested in learning more about the work Chris and St. Pius X are doing in Honduras? Check it out here...2022-01-1344 minPursuing The ProcessWhat's It All About?We lied to you. We called Episode 5 our final one of 2021. But after a few Hot Toddies in front of Todd’s fireplace, we decided to do one more. In this episode, we reflect on the first season of Pursuing the Process and discuss some key themes that emerged from our inaugural year. Hear how to produce more of the “love” chemical in your brain and to increase the amount of gratitude in your life. And learn about the three things you need in order to create a habit. All just in time for New Year’s resolution season!2021-12-3027 minPursuing The ProcessThis Is The Best Year Of My LifeKeith Schwenn lost both of his brothers in a house fire when he was 18 years old. He lost his best friend in a car accident several years later. Hear how Keith used those experiences to turn adversity into opportunity. Learn about how his commitments to the people he’s lost have served as constant sources of motivation as Keith has become a successful husband, father, and business professional. At the beginning of the episode, we also share some important breaking news and an update on a previous guest. SPOILER ALERT: people may start confusing Todd for Jon’s dad.2021-12-2059 minPursuing The ProcessMy Car Is A Mom VanWe chat with Gaby Napier, founder of GEneration Impact, a non-profit aimed at providing pro-bono consulting for sustainable-development projects. Hear about how Gaby’s experience as a first-generation American led to her strong desire to help others. Also learn about the role that empathy plays in her success and catch her advice on how to lead those in Generation Z.. You’ll also find out why Gaby chose a minivan as the vehicle to describe her life. Oh, and one more thing: Ted Lasso isn’t funny, but it’s still a damn good show. https://generation-impact-sdg.com2021-11-1938 minPursuing The ProcessThat Could Be Me NextIn episode 3, we catch up with Vivek Pande, Jon’s favorite professor from his time at the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse. A citizen of 4 countries, Vivek was born in Baltimore, moved to India at age 9, spent time hustling on the streets to afford college, and walked away from a lucrative law career. Hear how living in his car ended up being “one of the best experiences of my life.” Plus, you’re going to want to know the differences between how 43-year-old Todd and 25-year-old Jon celebrated their Halloween.2021-11-0542 minPursuing The ProcessYou Get Ten MinutesIn this episode, we jam with Sam Hauser of the Boston Celtics. Sam talks about his experience playing big-time college basketball with his younger brother and their subsequent decision to pursue separate paths in their careers. Hear about what it’s like to have ten minutes to decide your NBA future. And the episode wouldn’t be complete without highlighting how Jon groomed Sam and his high-school teammates for multiple Wisconsin state basketball championships.2021-10-1932 minPursuing The ProcessWeird Ass BeersPaul Reiter, CEO and Co-Founder of Great Notion Brewing, sits down with us to talk about how he and two neighbors turned getting drunk in their garage into a world-class brewery. Hear about how Paul’s experience as a hip-hop artist and producer helped shape his success as a CEO. Paul also discusses the role of his family in inspiring and supporting his success. And why was Jon drinking a Great Notion beer during the podcast and Todd wasn’t?2021-10-1933 minPursuing The ProcessOrigin StoryPursuing The Process.2021-09-0904 min
Cliff's Notes Real Estate PodcastEpisode 85: Gusty Gulas, Birmingham's #1 Team Gusty Gulas GroupLIVE @1:00 CDT TODAY ON CLIFF'S NOTESGUSTY GULASGusty Gulas is the Team Leader of the Gusty Gulas Group, Birmingham's #1 Team in Homes Sold since 2012. The Team is endorsed by Birmingham Mountain Radio's Reg and Will, 102.5 The Bull's Dollar Bill and Madison, JT with WERC 105.5, AND Sean Hannity. In the last two years, Gusty's team has sold over 850 homes! Gusty is a Past President for the Birmingham Association of Realtors and is currently on the National Association of Realtors Board of Directors. Gusty is currently the Top Rated Realtor on Zillow, Google, and Facebook in the...2021-07-0146 min
Comic Talk TodayComic Talk Headlines For March 3rd, 2020 | Three Jokers? Well 3 Joker Rumors anyway... &More News!Time for the Comic Talk Headlines with Generally Nerdy! She-Hulk NEWS (finally), Spawn announcement, Three Joker Rumors & MORE! Catch up on all the nerdy headlines in TV and Movies, Tuesdays and Fridays. Plus, don't forget to subscribe for more fresh content daily. TV/StreamingShe-HulkMark Ruffalo in “early talks” to be in the series. According to Ruffalo himself at C2E2 this weekend.https://comicbook.com/marvel/2020/03/01/she-hulk-mark-ruffalo-cast-cameo-bruce-banner-mcu/ American Horror StoryMacaulay Culkin on the cast for season 10.https://comicbook.com/2020/02/26/american-horror-story-season-10-cast-macaulay-culkin/ ...2020-03-0414 min
TV Podcast IndustriesPunisher 213 Review from Defenders TV Podcast The Final episode of The Punisher
It's the final episode of the Punisher. With so many characters needing a payoff we discuss how successful it was in our Punisher 213 Review podcast for "The Whirlwind". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.
Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) and Amy (Giorgia Whigham) take a moment out.
Punisher 213 Review Spoiler filled Synopsis
Episode Written by: Steve Lightfoot
Episode Directed by: Jeremy...2019-03-141h 49
Ironheart From TV Podcast IndustriesPunisher Season 2 Episode 12 "Collision Course" by TV Podcast IndustriesFrom an ambulance ambush to a flying doctor we discuss the penultimate episode in our Punisher 212 Review podcast for "Collision Course". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.Punisher 212 Review Spoiler filled SynopsisEpisode Written by: Stephen KayEpisode Directed by:Dario ScardapaneDetective Sergeant Brett Mahoney (Royce Johnson) has Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) in custody handcuffed in the back of an ambulance. With Dinah Madani (Amber Ro...2019-03-141h 26TV Podcast IndustriesPunisher 212 Review from Defenders TV Podcast
From an ambulance ambush to a flying doctor we discuss the penultimate episode in our Punisher 212 Review podcast for "Collision Course". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.
Dinah Madani (Amber Rose Revah) to the rescue
Punisher 212 Review Spoiler filled Synopsis
Episode Written by: Stephen Kay
Episode Directed by:Dario Scardapane
Detective Sergeant Brett Mahoney (Royce Johnson...2019-03-141h 26
Defenders on TV Podcast IndustriesPunisher Season 2 Episode 13 Review PodcastIt's the final episode of the Punisher. With so many characters needing a payoff we discuss how successful it was in our Punisher 213 Review podcast for "The Whirlwind". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.
Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) and Amy (Giorgia Whigham) take a moment out.
Punisher 213 Review Spoiler filled Synopsis
Episode Written by: Steve Lightfoot
Episode Directed by: Jeremy Webb
After witnessing Krista Dumont's fall and believing her dead, Billy Russo (Ben Barnes) full of rage...2019-03-051h 49
Defenders TV Podcast A WandaVision podcastPunisher 213 Finale Review The Whirlwind by Defenders TV PodcastIt's the final episode of the Punisher. With so many characters needing a payoff we discuss how successful it was in our Punisher 213 Review podcast for "The Whirlwind". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.
Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) and Amy (Giorgia Whigham) take a moment out.
Punisher 213 Review Spoiler filled Synopsis
Episode Written by: Steve Lightfoot
Episode Directed by: Jeremy Webb
After witnessing Krista Dumont's fall and believing her dead, Billy Russo (Ben Barnes) full of rage...2019-03-051h 49
Ironheart From TV Podcast IndustriesPunisher Season 2 Episode 6 "Nakazat" by TV Podcast IndustriesFrank and Amy discover the secret behind the Schultz's attacks but does it work? We discuss it all in our Punisher 206 Review of "Nakazat". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.Punisher 206 Review Spoiler filled SynopsisEpisode Written by: Christine Boylan Episode Directed by: Jamie M. DaggAmy (Giorgia Whigham) and Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) develop one of the photos of two young men embracing at a mutual friends fu...2019-02-241h 22TV Podcast IndustriesPunisher 206 Review Nakazat by Defenders TV Podcast
Frank and Amy discover the secret behind the Schultz's attacks but does it work? We discuss it all in our Punisher 206 Review of "Nakazat". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.
John Pilgrim (Josh Stewart) takes aim at a target
Punisher 206 Review Spoiler filled Synopsis
Episode Written by:Christine Boylan
Episode Directed by :Jamie M. Dagg
Amy...2019-02-241h 22Defenders TV Podcast A WandaVision podcastPunisher 212 Review Collision Course by Defenders TV PodcastFrom an ambulance ambush to a flying doctor we discuss the penultimate episode in our Punisher 212 Review podcast for "Collision Course". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.
Dinah Madani (Amber Rose Revah) to the rescue
Punisher 212 Review Spoiler filled Synopsis
Episode Written by: Stephen Kay
Episode Directed by:Dario Scardapane
Detective Sergeant Brett Mahoney (Royce Johnson) has Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) in custody handcuffed in the back of an ambulance. With Dinah Madani (Amber Rose Revah) pleading...2019-02-221h 26
Defenders on TV Podcast IndustriesPunisher Season 2 Episode 12 Review PodcastFrom an ambulance ambush to a flying doctor we discuss the penultimate episode in our Punisher 212 Review podcast for "Collision Course". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.
Dinah Madani (Amber Rose Revah) to the rescue
Punisher 212 Review Spoiler filled Synopsis
Episode Written by: Stephen Kay
Episode Directed by:Dario Scardapane
Detective Sergeant Brett Mahoney (Royce Johnson) has Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) in custody handcuffed in the back of an ambulance. With Dinah Madani (Amber Rose Revah) pleading...2019-02-221h 26Defenders TV Podcast A WandaVision podcastPunisher 206 Review Nakazat by Defenders TV PodcastFrank and Amy discover the secret behind the Schultz's attacks but does it work? We discuss it all in our Punisher 206 Review of "Nakazat". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.
The Pilgrim (Josh Stewart) is on the prowl
Punisher 206 Review Spoiler filled Synopsis
Episode Written by:Christine Boylan
Episode Directed by :Jamie M. Dagg
Amy (Giorgia Whigham) and Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) develop one of the photos of two young men embracing at a mutual friends funeral...2019-02-011h 22
Defenders on TV Podcast IndustriesPunisher Season 2 Episode 6 Review PodcastFrank and Amy discover the secret behind the Schultz's attacks but does it work? We discuss it all in our Punisher 206 Review of "Nakazat". We talk about our top five bullet points about this episode in our Spoiler filled discussion. As always make sure you've watched the episode before listening to the podcast.
The Pilgrim (Josh Stewart) is on the prowl
Punisher 206 Review Spoiler filled Synopsis
Episode Written by: Christine Boylan
Episode Directed by: Jamie M. Dagg
Amy (Giorgia Whigham) and Frank Castle (Jon Bernthal) develop one of the photos of two young men embracing at a mutual friends funeral...2019-02-011h 22