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Off the RollOff the RollStacy Struble - The Phileas Fogg of Athletic TrainingElkhart, IN, Muncie, IN, San Diego, CA, Melbourne, Australia, Peru, China, Mexico... What do all of these places have in common? They are places that Stacy Struble has traveled with teams and athletes as their athletic trainer. This 1993 and 2006 Ball State alum has traveled the world working with various athletes as an athletic trainer. All while working as the Co-Head Athletic Trainer at Southwestern College in Chula Vista, CA. Her experiences are a long way from her home town of Elkhart, IN. She has been a athletic trainer for USA national Deaf Soccer team, USA Beach Volleyball, Pro Beach...2025-06-301h 26Off the RollOff the RollVince Stilger - Country Roads, Take Me Home...2024 was a hall of fame year for Vince Stilger. He was inducted into not just one state Athletic Training Association Hall of Fame but two state Athletic Training Associations Hall of Fame, West Virginia and Indiana. Well deserved honors for this Lanesville, IN native with a 43 year career in the profession. What he has packed into those 43 years is hall of fame worthy at any level. Starting at Lanesville HS as a student athletic trainer and attending a athletic training workshop at Floyd Central HS, hosted by Glen Snow with a hall of fame faculty, he was well on...2025-03-202h 06Off the RollOff the RollBeth Herrell - Athletic Training Trailblazer with special guest Mark GoodrichIn 1987 a young Beth Giesman was trying to figure out what she was going to do with the rest of her life. A chance meeting with Mark Goodrich on a campus visit at Vincennes University and learning about a profession that was new to her, turned in to over 30 years working as an athletic trainer. Small University, small classes but big AT experiences are what Vincennes offered as well as young enthusiastic mentor in Goodrich. Beth excelled in this environment. From Vincennes she transferred to Indiana State and was the first woman to work men's basketball as a student...2025-02-261h 27Off the RollOff the RollTim Lentych - Major League Career22 years after he started is career in minor league baseball, Tim Lentych was in Dodger Stadium, watching Brad Paisley play the National Anthem for the opening game of the 2024 World Series as the Head Athletic Trainer of the New York Yankees. It was a long way from South Bend, IN, his hometown. Tim's athletic training journey started out simple, by finding a brochure about the Ball State Athletic Training Education program and then being selected to be a student in that program. But from that point on it has been a trajectory that has led him straight to the...2024-12-161h 28Off the RollOff the RollRex Sharp - Hall of Fame relationship builderJohn Wooden once said "Make friendship a fine art." If that is the case then Rex Sharp is Michelangelo. It has never been about where he has been or the athletic training facilities he has designed while at those schools, or the committees he has lead or been on, or the Hall of Fames that he is currently in. It has been about the people he has come in contact with over his 45 year career as an athletic trainer and how he can help them. That career started as a student athletic trainer at New Albany High...2024-11-152h 02Off the RollOff the RollPhil Voorhis - Athletic Trainer T-RexIn the early to mid 80's the Piqua, OH high school football team needed a manager. Phil Voorhis realizing that he may be a bit small and slow to be playing big time HS football in Ohio thought it would be a good opportunity to be associated with the FB team. This lead to a suggestion from a football coach that he might be interested in attending at Cramer Student Athletic Trainer Workshop at near by Miami University to learn some taping skills and a few nuggets of athletic training knowledge, from unknown to him at the time, Hall...2024-10-021h 28Off the RollOff the RollScott Knerr - Chop Wood, Haul WaterWrestling, ACL tear, High School AT, Add all this up and what do you get? Medical School right? Maybe for Scott Knerr, but a couple of Pre-Med classes changed his mind and career path. Or course he would put all of that sports medicine knowledge to use in this new path. This 1995 Ball State AT grad career journey would take him from Fort Wayne, IN to Laramie, WY and in his 30 + year career fill a variety of roles in the clinic and college settings. In his most recent role the Director of Sports Medicine at the University of Wyoming, Scott...2024-09-061h 29Off the RollOff the RollBill Cowgill - Relationships are everythingBill Cowgill was looking to be come an architect when he arrived on campus at Ball State University in 1990. When that major became to daunting to this Highland IN High School grad he became an architect of relationships and athletic training that lead him to become one of most respected athletic trainers in the world of men's college basketball. Each experience he built a network of athletic training expertise and supporters that have lead him to his current position as the Associate Director of Sports Medicine at the University of Kansas. His journey has taken him from far off...2024-04-181h 22Off the RollOff the RollJonathan Allen - AT Pillar ConstructorJohnathan Allen was curious. He a was curious about his Dad's ACL surgery while Jonathan was in high school. How was he going to get back? Who was going to help him with his rehab? Would he be able to do what he did before? Johnathan was curious and this led him into a career in health care. After high school he had a cup of coffee in Bloomington, IN at Indiana University but after figuring out, like Larry Bird, that a big school is not for everyone he found his way to Ball State in the winter of 2001...2024-03-121h 25Off the RollOff the RollRex Call - Back where I come from Part 2 In 1975 a freshman found his way into a call out for student athletic trainers at Ball State University. Being one of the rare people to have an athletic trainer at his high school in the early 1970's he had a small understanding of what athletic trainers did. He started off with a couple of days a week of observation and then spending time with Jim Dickerson in a golf cart during the MAC cross country championship sealed the deal for Rex Call and sent him on a career path that has taken him across the country and...2024-03-0155 minOff the RollOff the RollRex Call - Back where I come from Part 1In 1975 a freshman found his way into a call out for student athletic trainers at Ball State University. Being one of the rare people to have an athletic trainer at his high school in the early 1970's he had a small understanding of what athletic trainers did. He started off with a couple of days a week of observation and then spending time with Jim Dickerson in a golf cart during the MAC cross country championship sealed the deal for Rex Call and sent him on a career path that has taken him across the country and then finally...2024-02-291h 17Off the RollOff the RollDave Weikel - AT ambassadorIt is a story that is old as long as athletic training has been a profession. An injury playing a sport leads to interest in athletic training and morphs into a storied career. That was what happened to Dave Weikel his junior year in high school when a dislocated shoulder while playing football lead to a chance meeting with a PT/ATC that peaked his interest in athletic training. When searching for schools with athletic training education programs he found a fit at Ball State and worked his way into a wild ride with the 1989-1990 Sweet Sixteen Men's...2024-02-041h 41Off the RollOff the RollNeal Hazen - On Top of the World Part 2 "No man is a failure who has friends." - Clarence, the Guarding Angel of George Bailey Nothing could be said truer about Neal Hazen. In fact there are many people that would consider Neal as their guarding angel. This 2023 Ball State Athletics Hall of Fame inductee is recognized by many people as a good friend and excellent health care provider. This mission to provide health care and friendship started in at Ball State University in their short lived physical therapy program. After a few years of wandering around at various academic institutions (Earlham and then...2024-01-031h 00Off the RollOff the RollNeal Hazen - On Top of the World Part 1"No man is a failure who has friends." - Clarence, the Guarding Angel of George Bailey Nothing could be said truer about Neal Hazen. In fact there are many people that would consider Neal as their guarding angel. This 2023 Ball State Athletics Hall of Fame inductee is recognized by many people as a good friend and excellent health care provider. This mission to provide health care and friendship started in at Ball State University in their short lived physical therapy program. After a few years of wandering around at various academic institutions (Earlham and then, IPFW) he...2024-01-021h 08Off the RollOff the RollKen Wolfert - Deep Roots Part 2In 1960 a young Ken Wolfert was just trying to find some relief from his subungual hematoma on his finger. That led him into a room that said "Physical Therapy" above the door and a chance meeting with Al Hart who was the athletic trainer at Ohio University. Al treated Ken finger and sparked some interest in athletic training. Ken started help Al with the football team and soon was traveling with other sports. This informal education allowed for Ken to meet NATA hall of famers, Mel Blinckenstaff and Otho Davis. In 1965 when Ken graduated from OU he accepted the...2023-09-261h 04Off the RollOff the RollKen Wolfert - Deep Roots Part 1In 1960 a young Ken Wolfert was just trying to find some relief from his subungual hematoma on his finger. That led him into a room that said "Physical Therapy" above the door and a chance meeting with Al Hart who was the athletic trainer at Ohio University. Al treated Ken finger and sparked some interest in athletic training. Ken started help Al with the football team and soon was traveling with other sports. This informal education allowed for Ken to meet NATA hall of famers, Mel Blinckenstaff and Otho Davis. In 1965 when Ken graduated from OU he accepted the...2023-09-201h 16Off the RollOff the RollDr. Brian Hatzel - The Road Not Taken"I shall be telling this with a sigh. Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in the wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." The Road Not Taken, Robert Frost That is exactly what Dr. Brian Hatzel did in 1997 when he was looking for a graduate assistantship coming out of the University of Florida undergraduate athletic training program. Ball State was not an SEC football GA Position but it was chance to work baseball and be on his own. Starting out as an student athletic trainer at...2023-06-061h 11Off the RollOff the RollLori Vancza - Standing like a SycamoreSometimes the most unfortunate things turn into the most fortunate opportunities. That is what happened to Lori Vancza when she had the unfortunate experience of spraining her ankle but thanks to her volleyball coach taking her to NATA HOF athletic trainer/PT, Pinky Newell at Purdue University to take a look at her. It sparked a fire that has been burning for over 40 years. Starting at Purdue as a student athletic trainer and being taught by NATA Hall of Famer Denny Miller, Jim Russ, and Sue Hillman and one class by Pinky Newell she embarked on a career that saw...2023-04-2449 minOff the RollOff the RollJason Eckerle - Expanding HorizonsBaseball HOF'er Scott Rolen, Ball State men's basketball coach Michael Lewis, NCAA Div Football National Champion Matt Mauck, Indiana Senator Mike Braun all hail from the same hometown as our episode 23 guest Jason Eckerle, Jasper, IN. High achievers and great company to be associated with, Jason is no exception. He started out his athletic training journey in high school by attending 2 Cramer student athletic trainer camps and helping take care of the teams at Jasper High School. From there he attended Vincennes University and under the guidance of Mark Goodrich and Robert Cullen built his athletic training skills to...2023-03-201h 14Off the RollOff the RollMark Pfeil - Right Place, Right timeHow does a farm boy from Wausa, Nebraska end up with 20 years as an AT in the NBA and take care of the greatest basketball player of all time(at the time of this writing in 2023.)?  Right place, Right time.  Mark Pfeil, after graduating at the University of Nebraska, headed off to the big city of Evanston, IL to attend PT school at Northwestern University.  There he met Dick Hoover, who at the time was the head athletic trainer at NU.  Dick, Ron O'Neil, Ron Sendre, and Jim Dickerson quickly taught Mark the skills he would use as a PT/A...2023-02-161h 24Off the RollOff the RollSteve Lubbehusen - Dos ChargerIn 1993 little did Steve Lubbehusen know that a student teaching assignment was going to turn long tenure at Carroll School Systems.  At the time Carroll was just a small country school north of Fort Wayne, Steve's hometown.  Steve has grown with the school and now one of 3 Certified Athletic Trainers that provide medical care to 1 high school and 2 middle schools and 20 sports.  Steve also teaches in the high school/middle schools as a health/sports medicine teacher.  Steve is one of the most experience teachers/athletic trainers in the area with his 30 years of experience.  This allows him to also...2023-01-231h 33Off the RollOff the RollMike Miller- Hard Workin ManMike Miller grew up a Purdue fan due to his father being an alum.  The LaGrange, IN native thought his future was going to Purdue and purse a business degree but a few high school coaches and an interest in medicine changed his course and he found himself in the fall 1991 in Muncie, IN at Ball State University observing to get into the Athletic Training Education Program.  He had to work hard to get into the program and that has been a theme in his life ever since.  He was always working to move up the ladder and making things bet...2023-01-091h 41Off the RollOff the RollBarry Clements - Hoosier Values in the Sunshine StateAt Earlham College in Richmond, IN, working as an equipment room as a student assistant a young Barry Clements found an interest in athletic training.  This lead to attending a Cramer Student Athletic Training workshop in 1976 at Ball State University which in turn allowed him to return to his high school to put his skills to work at student athletic trainer at Richmond High School.  When he graduated in 1977 he took his experience to Ball State University where he met his mentor Jim Dickerson.  Upon graduation he went to Kent State University as an AT graduate assistant under another BSU...2022-10-2544 minOff the RollOff the RollGlen Snow part 2 - Taking Care of BusinessWhat do ATI physical therapy, Athletico, and Ivy Rehab all have in common?  They would not be here if not for the vision of NATA Hall of Famer, Dick Hoover and his idea for independent outpatient physical therapy clinics.  Glen Snow shares the story of Physical Therapy Services, the first independent outpatient physical therapy clinic that went nation wide.  In 1984 Glen was recruited by Dick to be the VP of business development.  Glen helped open up 43 clinics and help grow the clinics to be worth 18 million dollars before they sold out to Baxter International in 1990.   Their hard work paved the wa...2022-08-3059 minOff the RollOff the RollBill Bean - Utah ManBill Bean by his own admission, was an average athlete, but being an average athlete led to a 40 year plus career as an athletic trainer/physical therapist.  He started out at his local high school as a student athletic trainer in Rexburg, ID and then thanks to his head football coach talking the athletic trainer at Utah State he became a student athletic trainer at Utah State.  After fulfilling is ROTC obligations to the US Army in Monterey, CA.  Bill reunited with Dick Melhart at Washington State as an assistant athletic trainer.  His next job was with the Utah Star...2022-08-101h 12Off the RollOff the RollJim Routhier - Opening the Doors of OpportunityIn the summer of 1970 Jim Routhier made a decision that set the course of the rest of his career.  He had decided to transfer from IPFW to Ball State University and pursue a major in teaching but he also had an interest in medicine and took an into to athletic training class taught by Jim Dickerson.  This set him on a pathway of a distinguished 31 year career as the athletic trainer at Concord HS in Elkhart, IN.  In his time there he started an student athletic trainer program that produced many athletic trainers, physical therapists, nurses, and physicians.   He also...2022-07-011h 05Off the RollOff the RollBrian Jones- From Cardinal to Rocket manIt is interesting how fate steps in and provides an opportunity to start a life long career.  That is exactly what happened to Brian Jones when an automobile accident led to a meeting with the athletic trainer that took care of his mom after the accident.  John Coddington's influence on Brian started him on a career pathway that has been in the making for over 30 years.  His recommendation to go to Ball State and become part of their athletic training education program allowed Brian to work with a AT staff that would help him land a GA position at Mic...2022-06-171h 22Off the RollOff the RollPaul Calloway & Brian Matix - The Ties That BindAthletic Trainers need supplies to do their jobs.  Sometimes the most important person in getting an athlete back is the sports medicine company representative.  They play an intrical part in supporting athletic trainers and the care they provide their athletes.  Whether is overnighting a product or introducing a new product that will help the athletic trainer get an athlete back to activity, their dedication to what they due in not unlike an athletic trainer.  Paul Calloway (Miotech) and Brian Matix (Henry Schein) have been in the business for over 25 years.  They both started out at Medco Medical Supply when it wa...2022-06-101h 17Off the RollOff the RollDr. Tom Weidner - There is a person behind a professionalThanks to a Cramer student athletic trainer correspondence course, some supportive coaches and a desire to be a part of a team Dr. Tom Weidner's athletic training career was off and running at Rich East high school in Park Forest, IL.  Although not knowing much, but what he was learning from the Cramer course and a few found textbooks and articles he was determined to be Rich East's first athletic trainer.  From there he enrolled at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale, IL.  There he found a limited AT staff that welcomed anyone with athletic training experience and was soon providing ath...2022-04-021h 18Off the RollOff the RollRob Hunt - A long way to top if you want to do Athletic Training.As a high school athlete Rob Hunt was on the receiving end of athletic training services at West Lafayette High School in West Lafayette, IN. Right in the shadow of one of the more storied epicenters of athletic training, Purdue University.  He wanted to design and build things so Ball State University's architecture program seemed like the right fit. Unbeknownst to him he was following in the footsteps of Ron O'Neil and Mark Lahr.  He realized the missing factor as an architecture major was working with people and led him to change his major to athletic training.  Rob's journey sta...2022-03-091h 22Off the RollOff the RollMark Lahr - A Giant AT careerMark Lahr was too short and too slow to be on his high school basketball team at Lafayette Jeff High School in Lafayette IN.  It was just the right combination to start a long and exceptional career as an athletic trainer.  With a few detours on along the way Mark found his way to Jim Dickerson and the Ball State AT program.  Mark graduated from Ball State in 1984 with a math teaching degree and a desire to work at the secondary school level as an athletic trainer.  He got the opportunity to teach math and be an athletic trainer at B...2022-02-111h 46Off the RollOff the RollRon O'Neil - AT innovation patriotOur 10th Episode! How does an architecture major and a week in the student health center lead to an outstanding athletic training career featuring innovation and product development that contributes to the health and well being of athletes?  Ron O'Neil explains in this episode of Off the Roll.  Ron was a graduate of Ball State University in 1969.  While at Ball State he played varsity baseball while also being a student athletic trainer.  He was one of the few that was taught by Bud Miller, Dick Hoover, Ron Sendre and Jim Dickerson.  Quite an impressive list of mentors.  He nex...2022-01-271h 17Off the RollOff the RollJay Bradley - "Sir, I am from Indiana."After getting cut from his HS basketball team for being to slow and too small Jay Bradley embarked on a career path that has kept him busy throughout the Midwest for over 50 years.  After taking a Cramer Student Athletic Trainer correspondence course in high school he was asked to be his high school's athletic trainer.  He was the student athletic trainer for the 1967 Indiana Boys All Start basketball team and the student athletic trainer for the 1967 Indiana North All Stars Football team in their game vs the South All Stars with a student athletic trainer named Glen Snow.  This sta...2022-01-161h 29Off the RollOff the RollPutting the Band back together - Tony Cox, Rex Sharp, Neal HazenIn 1985 there was a shift in perspective in Ball State Athletic Training.  Rex Sharp was hired as the head athletic trainer.  Not being a physical therapist was a change in direction for the program.  He was joining fellow Ball State AT alum and assistant athletic trainer Tony Cox.  Together the first couple of years were spent building a health care and AT education program that would become one of the most prolific AT programs of it time.  1987 Neal Hazen, Also an alum of the Ball State PT program, joins the staff as a physical therapist through Baxter Physical Therapy (Dick...2021-12-241h 19Off the RollOff the RollJamie Broz - Coming Full CircleSometimes we get the opportunity to take care of the people that we once were. It is a unique and sometimes rare opportunity but can be very rewarding to use our experience to help young people achieve their dreams.  That is what Jamie Broz is doing now.  As the manager for the Center for the Female Athlete at Dayton's Children's Hospital she gets to help young female athletes just like she was as a competitive gymnast growing up in Mt Healthy, OH.  Jamie talks about what she is doing now with the program at the Center and tells us her...2021-12-191h 29Off the RollOff the RollJohn Coddington "I love Rehab" Clinical setting pioneerSelf Promotion can been seen two ways, bragging or advocating  With John Coddington is was always about what athletic trainers could do in the clinical setting.  He has backed it up with a 47 year AT career, all in the clinical setting.  He was a pioneer starting at LaPorte Hospital, LaPorte, IN in 1976 as one of the only athletic trainers in a hospital setting at the time.  He continued working in private PT clinics advocating for athletic trainers in those settings.  While doing this he was covering high schools in the LaPorte and South Bend and becoming the foremost throwing mecha...2021-11-071h 24Off the RollOff the RollDr. Alan Habansky - Following the CallingEpisode 5:  Dr. Alan Habansky was an orthopedic surgeon in Muncie, IN for over 35 years and 30 of those years as a team physician for Ball State Athletics.  His story weaves in and out of experiences and people like a woven blanket.  From being a classmate of Dr. Anthony Fauci during his undergrad at Holy Cross to being a Sports Medicine Fellow with Dr. James Andrews at the Hughston Clinic, and a few other places along the way.  He found his calling in Muncie, IN.  Today we talk about these experiences.  Some Ball State athletic department stories,  the athletic trainers he worked...2021-10-2657 minOff the RollOff the RollAngie Miller - AT OracleAngie Miller has been an Certified Athletic Trainer for over 30 years.  She started out as an AT student at Ball State graduating in 1989 and then off to Ohio University as graduate assistant in a small high school.  After a short stint at a high school outreach position in Columbus, OH she landed at Avon High School, Avon, IN and has been there ever since.  She was their first full time athletic trainer and has built the program to have two other outreach AT's to help her with athletic training access to the student athletes at Avon.  Angie currently serves on t...2021-09-281h 02Off the RollOff the RollMark Leto All in the (BSU AT) FamilyWhen you say the name Leto around a group of Athletic Trainers in Indiana most will think about Ball State Athletic Training and few more will think about Hobart Jr Sr High School.  Mark Leto has been an athletic trainer for over 30 years and worked in all types of settings as an athletic trainer.  For the past 29 years he has been the athletic trainer at Hobart Jr Sr High school in Hobart, IN, His hometown.  Mark has worked in the college, professional and clinical settings in his time as an athletic trainer.  Mark tells his story today and what some...2021-09-071h 05Off the RollOff the RollGlen Snow - Trial by FireGlen Snow aka "Snowball" has been involved in athletic training for over 50 years. He is an Indiana Athletic Trainers Association Hall of Famer.  He was a student of Sayers Bud Miller, Jim Dickerson and Ron Sendre.  He worked with Bud Miller at the University of Washington and eventually be became the Athletic Trainer at Floyd Central HS in Floyds Knob, IN.  At Floyd Central he was the Nutriment High School Athletic Trainer of the Year and over saw the construction of one of the largest and most modern high school athletic training rooms of the time.  He went to work...2021-08-231h 04Off the RollOff the RollThe Maiden Voyage! Ron SendreWelcome to Off the Roll!  This is the first of hopefully many episodes.  We talk with Ron Sendre, alumni, former assistant AT, Co-Head AT and AT Education program director at Ball State University.  Ron spent 8 years at BSU and then left to go to Central Michigan University where he developed and instituted the first AT major in the the United States.  He tells his story about that process.  How he worked with Sayers " Bud" Miller and carried on Bud's vision for the AT profession through AT education.  He also talks about his good friend and former co-worker Jim Dickerson.  Great s...2021-06-161h 20??????????????????????????????????????????????Shepherds VisitTroy Hershman will be sharing about the visit from the shepherds in Luke 2. We will be gathered in a combined service at 10:45 AM on this date.2018-12-3127 min