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Unscripted Moments: A Podcast About PropagandhiCat Guy by JamilahJamilah hosts Music and We and This Podcast Strikes First! https://thispodcaststrikesfirst.podbean.com/ https://musicandwe.podbean.com/ 2025-07-1620 min
Music And WeJesse sees Metallica For The First Time On The Floor!!!(RECORDED ON APRIL 20, 2025) On April 19, 2025 jamilah and jesse took a road trip to Syracuse, NY to see Metallica- it was jesse's 6th time seeing them, and jamilah's 19th. At one-something in the morning they decided to discuss their immediate feelings- particularly jesse, who saw them for the first time on the floor. Were there any differences for him (besides the obvious proximity to the stage) in his experiences?
If you went to the Syracuse show- or if you've gone to any of the shows on the M72 tour, you can tell us your experiences by contacting: musicandwepodcast@gm...2025-04-2139 minMusic And WePodcasts Unite (pt. 2): A Conversation With Greg Soden (Unscripted Moments: A Podcast About Propagandhi)(RECORDED ON APRIL 15, 2025) As our last episode involved a conversation with someone who is not only in one of our favorite bands, but also someone who is in arguably one of the most important bands of our time; we feel really happy to have that episode be followed up with someone who not only understands what it's like to create a podcast, but whose podcast is themed around the very band featured in our previous episode!
Greg Soden, co-host of Unscripted Moments: A Podcast About Propagandhi, was kind enough to take the little time he had out...2025-04-161h 01Music And WeWorking On Being 'At Peace': A Conversation With Propagandhi's Chris Hannah(RECORDED ON MARCH 20, 2025) The creation of a podcast (or radio show) is an interesting process; one of the most rewarding parts can sometimes be the most heartbreaking, as you take a lot of chances in hoping the person you've contacted will reach back out to you. Many times they do, and there are times they don't.
But you keep on pushing.
And pushing on is what Propagandi has done since the birth of their existence. Facing rejection, isolation, threats and more over the years, they never waned on their mission to be a musical representation of...2025-03-211h 37Music And WeOn Being A Leftist In The Black Metal World: A Conversation With Brutus Bathory(RECORDED ON FEBRUARY 28, 2025) Black Metal as a subgenre tends to get a pretty bad rap- not only because of its sound, but also because some of the most well-known proponents have unsavory, toxic and hateful alliances. On jamilah's search for some counters to this stereotype, she found the Youtube channel of a certain Brutus Bathory, a leftist Black Metal fan who gave an anticapitalist, critical lens to the music he loves.
Slightly sarcastically described as a channel which discusses "Metal, politics, and other uncontroversial topics," Brutus addresses the contradictions of patriarchy, consumerism, and the various forms of...2025-02-101h 58Music And Wejamilah Makes A Record, And jesse Interviews Her...(RECORDED ON JANUARY 20, 2025) Well... We don't know what to say. jamilah is usually the one asking the questions, talking to others about the things which inspire them. Because she recently came out with a record (called One Day I Slipped And Fell On A Thought), jesse had an idea- and to her surprise, that idea was to flip the mic around and ask jamilah some questions.
She discusses the process for making the record, as well as some of the methods, events and people which inspired her. Hopefully, the episode is interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One Day I Slipp...2025-01-2356 minMusic And WeArtists Against Apartheid: A Conversation With Savannah Imani Wade(RECORDED ON NOVEMBER 21, 2024) As long as injustice exists, there is always a need for artists to respond. On this episode we speak with Savannah Imani Wade, a member of the Baltimore chapter of Artists Against Apartheid, a collective who's objective is to "commit to using our platforms to challenge at every turn the massive misinformation campaigns waged by those who have a vested interest in the destruction of the Palestinian land and people without fear of repercussions. We dedicate ourselves to standing in solidarity with the Palestinian people and to use our artistic and cultural practices as tools of li...2024-12-191h 27Music And We'Soundtrack Of A Revolution': A Conversation With The Internationale (Delila Paz and Edgey Pires)(RECORDED ON OCTOBER 17, 2024) In the 11 years of doing radio (and now podcasting), jamilah has been experiencing a process of time where increasingly, you have to have some level of notoriety or fame for someone to take the time out to be on an episode of your podcast- or, you have to go through scores of agents and handlers (and sometimes, you don't get a response at all). We understand that there's an overwhelming amount of media out there currently, and people must be selective. It's an incredibly humbling experience to be able to converse with someone who is sharing th...2024-11-132h 33Music And WeThe Role Of An Artist In Troubled Times: A Conversation With Mic Crenshaw(RECORDED ON OCTOBER 2, 2024) Interestingly, this is the first episode up since the announcement of Donald Trump's election for a presidential second term; however, despite a bit of time passing in between the recording of this conversation and current events, what was said still applies, since we are living under the same system, regardless of administration. There may be an argument (or several) that this is not the case. jamilah and Mic Crenshaw discuss why it is.
Mic Crenshaw is a Portland, Oregon-based artist whose primary vehicle is hip hop, though he has a solid history in the pun...2024-11-092h 53Music And WeA Family Affair: A Conversation With ZULU's Anaiah Muhammad(RECORDED ON MARCH 27, 2024) We are so happy to finally have this episode up! We are grateful to have had the opportunity to have a conversation with Anaiah Muhammad, multi-instrumentalist and lead vocalist of Los Angeles-based band, ZULU. As a punk kid in the scene in the 1990s, jamilah is pleased to see the tradition be passed on in ways that are more inclusive/intersectional.
This conversation was held while Anaiah was observing Ramadan, and we absolutely appreciate his time. He and jamilah discussed the incremental steps being taken for the hardcore/punk scene to be fully accepting, ho...2024-05-231h 59Music And WeRIP David Sanborn, Gary Floyd and Steve AlbiniIn this episode, jamilah pays tribute to three influential figures in the music world- genre-defying saxophonist David Sanborn; outspoken vocalist Gary Floyd, and one of the most uncompromising beings to ever get behind a sound board, Steve Albini. So many are leaving us, but they have left behind the gifts of their music.
Thank you for listening. For questions, comments, etc. you can reach us here: musicandwejj@gmail.com
2024-05-1544 minMusic And WeThe Marriage Of Sports And Music, With Anthony Broome(RECORDED ON MARCH 15, 2024) While there are connections based on interest of a particular piece of music or band; many of us live lives outside of that singular interest.
jamilah and Anthony Broome met via the Metal Up Your Podcast community, specifically through the Discord network. Because life stories are so vast and interesting, jamilah invited him to come on and speak about his experience/history as a sports writer, a forum moderator (Discord being one of those places), and of course, a ginormous fan of Metallica. How do these worlds merge? What are some of the challenges that...2024-04-092h 03Music And WeThe 'Giving Flowers' Series (episode 3): Bad Religion (feat. Chris Warne)(RECORDED ON FEBRUARY 11, 2024) This episode developed from a few situations; jamilah wanted to do an episode on Fugazi (one of her favoritest bands of all time), but could not necessarily find someone to do that episode with. As Fugazi has not been a band since the early 2000s, doing a 'Flowers' episode would not have been feasible; however, members of Fugazi have embarked on several projects since then, so hopefully someone will want to do a 'Fugazi: Past And Present' episode with her.
In terms of the episode you're listening to now; in a conversation that involved Bad...2024-02-141h 44Music And WePodcasts Unite: A Conversation With Clint Wells (Metal Up Your Podcast)(RECORDED ON FEBRUARY 7, 2024) We are happy to bring in the first episode of the year of our humble little podcast, a conversation with Clint Wells! You may be familiar with him as the host of Metal Up Your Podcast; he's also a professional touring and studio musician, a songwriter and producer... and all-around nice guy. In this episode, Clint and jamilah pontificate (in humorous, thoughtful and empathetic ways) on the importance of family and community, what makes a good songwriter, the importance of dialog with those who may hold different views, producing Morgan Wade's upcoming album and of course, Meta...2024-02-092h 10Music And Wejesse and jamilah watch the ’Thriller 40’ documentary...(RECORDED DECEMBER 4, 2023) Whoo boy... jesse owes jamilah big time for this one.
The best way to describe this is to just listen to the episode!!! In it, we discuss once again, a documentary that doesn't exactly do justice to the musical legacy of Michael Jackson. We attempt to make sense of why this has (again) occurred, we ask why some of the people in the documentary are there, and we go in a bit on John Landis (because honestly, people who love film should).
We'd love to hear from you! For questions, comments, etc. you can rea...2023-12-3155 minMusic And WeOur End Of The Year Episode!!!(RECORDED ON DECEMBER 2, 2023) After many months of technical mishaps and life experiences, jesse and jamilah have returned, discussing some (but not all) of their favorite albums released this year; they also discussed the culture of mass information (in relation to Shawn 'Puffy' Combs and other predatory figures), our own contradictions, as well as other cultural events that have since occurred since this posting!
We'd love to hear from you! For questions, comments, etc. you can reach us here: musicandwejj@gmail.com
2023-12-312h 10Music And WeThe day jamilah met Metallica...(RECORDED ON AUGUST 7, 2023) Yes.... The unbelievable happened. jamilah met her second favorite band of all time, and her greatest musical inspiration. She is still in immense shock about it. This episode was recorded the day after Metallica did their two sets (with no repeats) at MetLife Stadium, so please forgive her relative incoherence, and many tears (hopefully jesse does as well!!!).
We also discuss the passing of Sinéad O’Connor (and experiences with mental health struggles), constantly getting names wrong as a possible personality trait, sexuality and objectification, the SAG-AFTRA strikes, Ice Cube and KRS ONE going fu...2023-08-122h 42Music And WeWhen Is It A Good Time To Critique An Artist?(RECORDED ON MAY 29, 2023) After a ton of mishaps and mental health episodes, we finally have this episode up!!! jesse and jamilah felt inspired to discuss this after the physical transition of Tina Turner, given a few anti-African stances she took throughout her life. While these things were known by some prior to her passing, many opined that addressing her contradictions was inappropriate because, well... she's Tina Turner!
We must remember that she was human, just like any of us who do not share her fame or financial status. No one, regardless of celebrity status or amount of incom...2023-07-291h 49Music And WeVegan Cooking and Punk Rock: A Conversation With Joshua Ploeg(RECORDED ON MAY 23, 2023) This is a multi-tiered episode of sorts, if you will. The Mulkilteo Fairies were one of jamilah's most favoritest hardcore/punk bands in the early to mid 1990s, as she was a young punk kid trying to figure life out. She wanted to always meet the people behind that band- and eventually met Josh (while he was in the band Behead The Prophet NLSL) and Quitty (while hanging out in Olympia, WA), respectably- so starting out, this is both an (a. 'Meet Your Heroes', as well as a (b. 'Giving Flowers' episode, combined.
Of cou...2023-06-0340 minMusic And WeThe ’Giving Flowers’ series (episode 2): Stevie Wonder(RECORDED ON MAY 13, 2023) This is an interesting episode, as tables have somewhat turned... jamilah is usually the fanboi (of various things) out of the two hosts; however, given that he was massively beloved by her in the past, it was discovered that jesse is far more of one when it comes to Stevie Wonder. There are attempts to explore this emerging discovery.
jesse and jamilah discuss Stevie Wonder's discography, the songs and albums they connect to, what the best songs are to introduce others to his music... as well as (of course) the contradictions. Even with all of t...2023-05-282h 04Music And WeA conversation With Old Head (aka Steven)(RECORDED ON APRIL 30, 2023) One of the objectives of this podcast is to engage with the ways we all connect with and to music. Of course, that would be boring if it were just jesse and jamilah every episode, so we always love when others get to share their experiences.
jamilah was very glad to have been able to share some time with fellow podcaster and creator (and lover of St. Anger) Old Head, whom she first became familiar with through his YouTube videos. Steven/Old Head is also a radio host (which jamilah was for 11 years); another thi...2023-05-142h 05Music And WeA Conversation On Disability & Metal (feat. Nick (aka MetalLawyer))(RECORDED ON APRIL 23, 2023) jamilah has been fairly open on this podcast about her experience as an amputee, and the ways music is now experienced due to it. We want to take time in various episodes to explore the various experiences had, under the spectrum of disabilities that exist.
On this episode we have Nick, who was born with cerebral palsy. jamilah and Nick met via a community of listeners and appreciators of Metal Up Your Podcast (MUYP), a... podcast (!!!) developed out of a love for Metallica. There's a bit of conversation about MUYP; as well as discussions on...2023-04-281h 16Music And WeA discussion of 72 Seasons, Metallica’s new album(RECORDED ON APRIL 17, 2023) 72 Seasons must be a special album, because jesse stayed up past his bedtime to discuss it! This is his first experience with a new Metallica album release cycle, so jamilah was extremely excited to hear his perspective. Needless to say, she was very pleasantly surprised.
As they go into detail about perspectives and what significance the album and individual songs hold, the two longtime friends also emotionally exposed themselves (to each other, and perhaps the world) in ways they hadn't before. Again, this must be a special album.
(Also ...Hardwired To Self Destru...2023-04-182h 25Music And WeThe ’Giving Flowers’ series (episode 1): Mudhoney (feat. Abby Denson)(RECORDED ON APRIL 8, 2023) We aren't getting any younger, and neither are some of the artists we love. We wanted to present a way to appreciate folks while they are still here (even if they're not currently producing music in that iteration), hence the 'Giving Flowers' series.
Our first episode is dedicated to Mudhoney, one of the last living 'anti-establishment' bands (that aren't Anarcho punk, or traditionally 'anti-establishment' in the way we're conditioned to think about what that means). Our special guest is Abby Denson; not only is she one of the biggest Mudhoney fans we know, but she...2023-04-121h 30Music And WeGoing To Concerts With A Disability (or two), with E.T. Russian(RECORDED ON MARCH 10, 2023) Many music lovers enjoy going out to see their favorite artists live. Some of us music lovers have disabilities, making it not as easy to navigate this world. In conversation with jamilah (who is a below-knee amputee (BKA)) is E.T. Russian (a double amputee for much, much longer); an old friend who reunited, 20 years later.
E.T. and jamilah discuss positive (and not-so-positive) experiences with consent, awareness and acknowledgement; there's also a discussion about the structural improvements made over the years in regards to venues, and the spaces for improvement.
Thanks for...2023-04-1053 minMusic And WeWhat And Who Is Stan (Culture)?(RECORDED ON FEBRUARY 27, 2023) This episode is finally up! A lot of things have happened since then (in relation to some of the things we discussed here), but the primary subject (sadly in some ways) is perhaps timeless.
jesse and jamilah discuss the formation of what (a couple of days later after this recording) became 'If Darkness Had A Son' (to be released on Metallica's 12th album, 72 Seasons). Also discussed was paris Jackson's interview with Steve-O.
The main subject of this episode was the culture of stanning; the etymology of it as well as the difference betwe...2023-04-081h 33Music And WeTalking About Our Favorite Records... And Colorism(RECORDED JANUARY 29, 2023) Music continues to simultaneously fascinate and confound us. jamilah is (positively) surprised at a few of jesse's favorite selections; There is also a discussion about an issue not addressed in mainstream discussions of music- colorism. People see these things as myths, but there are real-world examples (and real-world harm).
For questions, comments, etc. you can reach us here: musicandwejj@gmail.com
We also have a Discord page! https://discord.gg/Ke3XyU8W
2023-02-203h 00Music And WeMetallica’s new songs, and Sananda Maitreya’s proud boys shirt(RECORDED JANUARY 22, 2023) jesse and jamilah are back- and we no longer have to record episodes in different states, which of course makes things much easier. We spend our first (non remote) episode exploring the first two singles from the upcoming Metallica album, '72 Seasons'; jamilah also attempts to make sense of jesse's love of Sananda Maitreya, as jesse critiques Maitreya's various contradictions.
We also discuss the subject of wearing t-shirts of bands you don't know, as well as an upcoming Michael Jackson documentary.
For questions, comments, etc. you can reach us here: musicandwejj@gmail.com
2023-01-242h 08Music And WePost MTF Thoughts...(RECORDED DECEMBER 21, 2021) Jesse and jamilah are very, very jetlagged in this episode, but we wanted to get our thoughts out about MTF (Metallica Turns Forty) before everything left our brains. After never having seen the band live (and just getting into them), Jesse can now say he has seen them twice, while jamilah has officially now seen them three times- the first being December 3, 1991. Jesse got to capture a bit of the essence of the 'Metallica Family' as well.
There was so much happening that weekend, we couldn't possibly cover it all. And being in the moment at t...2021-12-232h 36Music And WeMetallica Turns Forty (MTF): Who‘s Coming With Us??!!(RECORDED NOVEMBER 26, 2021) It has been a very eventful couple of years since Jesse and jamilah were here! There was a particular event which affected the whole world (and continues to), Jesse wrote a book, and jamilah experienced a life-altering accident. For this episode though, we are switching it up! While we do talk a bit about Prince (and a tiny bit about MJ), our focus for this episode is on... METALLICA! They are getting some love over here. Preparing for the band's 40th anniversary events happening in December, Jesse and jamilah share how they came to know the band, any si...2021-11-283h 19
Music And WeSign O' The Times: The 'Revolt' Panel, The Whitney Hologram, Shuhada Sadaqat and Prince, and more...(RECORDED SEPTEMBER 22, 2019) The authors of confusion have always been here. No longer 'hidden in plain site,' they are increasingly coming out of the shadows. Many figures posed as 'woke' are being hired to mislead the masses. There has even been a conversation about the term 'woke' on British television, co-facilitated by none other than Piers Morgan.
They say words evolve and constantly lose their original meanings, while intent still holds weight in the original. We must cease to hold on to 'wokeness' and learn to open our eyes, our brains and our consciousness to stay awake, for t...2019-10-061h 32
Music And WeA little time out for international news... And 'Leaving Neverland' wins an Emmy Award(RECORDED SEPTEMBER 15, 2019) This is a shorter episode; jamilah goes solo (Don't worry- Jesse hasn't gone anywhere, and he was okay with this episode going up)!!! jamilah wanted to take a little time out to focus on some news stories you may not have known. If you regularly listen to our podcast, you know we cover non-music/political news as well.
jamilah also speaks a bit about Leaving Neverland winning an Emmy award. If you listen regularly, we're sure you'll know where that conversation goes.
Though a solo episode, as usual, we hope the information presented was us...2019-09-1750 min
Music And WeHow desiring 'a seat at the table' has shifted comedic (re)presentation... And other random thoughts(RECORDED SEPTEMBER 9, 2019) Obviously an extension of our last episode, Jesse and jamilah continue to look into the notion of the more recent wave of so-called 'edgy' (or even 'edgelord') comedy, and why it's being viewed as edgy... When it's ultimately a reflection of already socially acceptable mores. The majority of successful comedians are heterosexual, cisgender and/or white, and comedy is going to primarily reflect these cross-sections of experiences. There HAVE been comedians who hold privilege (be it physical, gender, ethnic or otherwise) and were able to successfully do comedy regarding marginalized groups... While the marginalized groups were NOT at th...2019-09-171h 58
Music And WeOn Dave Chapelle's 'Sticks and Stones'... And why MJ's name should be removed from the VMA's(RECORDED 1 SEPTEMBER 2019) Here's another overview of a seemingly 'controversial' visual work- 'Sticks and Stones'. While most people have defended Chapelle's work wholesale (because you know... It's comedy), there have been very few pieces (either critical or in defense) pointing to the nuances and consequences of 'controversial' comedy. Most responses have been reactionary. Jesse and jamilah dissect the full special (and its two epilogues- NOTE: MASSIVE SPOILERS).
Is it possible for comedy to be funny and not be at the expense of politically and socially marginalized groups of people? Is something truly 'controversial' when it's a reflection of already...2019-09-112h 06
Music And We'Cancel Culture'- the not-so-new phenomenon...(RECORDED 25 AUGUST 2019) WE ARE BACK Y'ALL!!! After a variation of life experiences that shifted much in our combined worlds, Jesse and jamilah have returned... With another setback- A RUSTY MICROPHONE SOUND. i guess the mic missed us as well, and was just paying us back for all the months of non-use. We apologize in advance for any bad sound, and hope this doesn't obscure the subject matter we aim to bring to you.
As we are in the midst of the 'era of mass exposure' (an inevitability in the age of mass information), where exactly do our prior...2019-09-112h 08Music And Wejamilah Watches Leaving Neverland(RECORDED MARCH 10, 2018) First This Is It and now Leaving Neverland... We must note that this was recorded directly after watching the full four hours, plus the Winfrey interview... While we gather people would be aware of this, we must reiterate that the majority of the audio here is based on views/opinions. Just like a majority of the people who have something to say, neither one of us personally knew Michael Jackson. Anything we say is going to be based on personal perspectives, as well as our experiences in relation to him. You as a listener (ESPECIALLY if you person...2019-04-071h 28Music And We'Leaving Neverland' in the Hot Seat: Response vs. Reaction(RECORDED MARCH 3 & 4 2019) So now this 'documentary' entitled 'Leaving Neverland' is airing, as we have this conversation. Feelings are heightened. Opinions are divided. Those who were already convinced of Michael's guilt are more than convinced after watching it; many in the fan community have refused to watch it. We at 'Music And We' do what we can in order to present a more nuanced position on this particular situation. While we have not seen the film at this point, our position is to stick to the facts as much as we can. Given the manipulative angles the producers (and director) of this...2019-03-133h 17Music And We'Leaving Neverland': Wade Robson, James Safechuck and 'Manufacturing Consent'(RECORDED FEBRUARY 24, 2019) WEEEEEERE BAAAAAAACK!!!!
The term 'manufacturing consent' was inspired by a phrase coined in 1922 by Walter Lippmann ('the manufacture of consent'). It was originally the title of a 1979 book by Michael Burawoy; it was then popularized after the 1988 book (and eventual film of the same name) by Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman. It is identified through corporate media (in particular) dictating a particular perspective or ideology as a means of social control. Its goal is to persuade the public to side with particular views which would be advantageous to their profit margin. The greatest examples are the U...2019-02-271h 47Music And WeIt's Okay To Smile: The Comedy/Parodies of MJ and Prince(RECORDED DECEMBER 23, 2018) Despite being loved by many across the globe, Prince nor Michael Jackson were let off the hook when it came to people creating comedy skits and/or parodies around what was deemed their eccentricities. From Eddie Murphy's "Tito get me some tissue!" skit, Lenny Henry's satirical take on the Bashir interview (which, while still pointing to what was seen as MJ's 'strange' behavior) actually pointed to the insidious nature of Bashir's intentions) to Tommy Davidson reworking lyrics to 'Sign 'O The Times' about a fast food chain; both men were inspirations for laughs everywhere. Clearly, sometimes it wa...2019-01-081h 19Music And WeWe C Yo BS: Political themes in Prince and MJ songs (Part Two)(RECORDED DECEMBER 16, 2018) Yes... Keep one eye open, y'all. It's better late than never that people are posthumously catching the crucial messages in both MJ and Prince's music; but for us, we felt a need to go deeper into our interpretations of the songs' contexts. And besides, Prince has about two billion songs, and we could not possibly cover them all in one episode. Or even two.
One of the things both Prince and Michael encouraged was to look beyond their music and study what was going on in the world, and just as we've covered a few non-m...2018-12-312h 23Music And WePolitricks and tips for them mental dips: Political themes in Prince and MJ songs (Part One)(RECORDED DECEMBER 9, 2018) If you've been listening to us so far, we are sure you saw this coming. Both Prince Rogers Nelson and Michael Jackson have been polarizing figures in musical discussions for years; but they have also been seen by many as (for some reason) being musically blind to the issues facing us 'normal' people. To that we say... ARE YOU KIDDING??!! While MJ did not have as many scathing political sentiments on his albums, there were a few pivotal moments in his catalog that cannot be ignored. And Prince, well... Any close examination of his collection of tracks (and s...2018-12-311h 30Music And WeThe Podcast Grinderz (The Sexuality Episode)...(RECORDED DECEMBER 2, 2018) We grind and grind away all day on this podcast and still... There were so many songs we did not mention (we see you, Underneath The Cream, Gett Off, International Lover, Rock With You, Adonis and Bathsheba and the countless others); we also know doing that would end up being a 6-hour marathon. So.. While you're here, ride with Jesse/Jester and jamilah as we explore (at least) some of the nuances of both Michael and Prince's more amorous aspects of their catalog- and let's keep it real, Prince got MJ beat by miles on that one. While...2018-12-252h 07
Music And WePrince vs. MJ: STOP THE INSANITY!!!!(RECORDED NOVEMBER 25, 2018) The usual arguments in favor of comparing Michael Jackson and Prince have to do with their superficial qualities, like their 'falsetto' voices, or the lack of hypermasculine performance. People also consistently argue (in a contrasting sense) that PRN could play a wealth of instruments while MJ could not at all- IS THIS EVEN TRUE??!! While the two have definite distinct performing and musical styles in many ways, in a sociopolitical sense, how different are they? Jesse/Jester and jamilah explore these possibilities.
For questions, comments, etc. you can reach us here: instagram.com/music_wejj/
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Music And WeThe Bootleg episode...(RECORDED NOVEMBER 18, 2018) Jesse/Jester and jamilah discuss the benefits and the difficulties of the existence of bootlegs. Are they a good thing? Are they of benefit to the artist? What are ways the masses could have access to music, yet respect the artist at the same time?
2018-12-162h 04Music And WeBlack or white? Yes it does matter!!!!!!(RECORDED NOVEMBER 11, 2018) Jesse and jamilah discuss the implications of Prince Rogers Nelson and Michael Jackson's erasure of their African sensibilities. Did they have a hand in that erasure (as a means of survival); or have people relegated them to a particular musical era, placing them in a bubble of systemic erasure?
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Music And WeSPECIAL EPISODE: jamilah sees 'This Is It' for the first time!!!(This was recorded on 4 November 2018) While Jesse has seen the posthumously released documentary covering the preparation for the 50-show residency at the O2 Arena over 30 times (!!!), jamilah has finally broken her 9-year vow of protest, just so we could talk about it on the podcast. What do we think of this Kenny Ortega-directed project? Is it respectful to Michael Jackson? Did the man rock it? Was it worth breaking the vow for? Is MJ gonna come out the mausoleum to haunt her for only watching it now?
2018-11-061h 06Music And WeP(atriarchy) Control... Oh No!!!!!There's so much we didn't cover in this episode- how DARE we not even touch Camille! Covering the nuances and contradictions regarding gender and sexuality when it comes to MJ and PRN is going to take much longer than one podcast episode could give... But we hope you enjoy (or at least get something out of) this little bit here.
2018-11-061h 49Music And We...And The Profane (MJ and PRN edition)Here is the accompanying episode to 'The Sacred'... What is exactly defined as 'profane'? Can the sacred and profane co-exist in the worlds of Prince and Michael Jackson? Jesse and jamilah navigate the possible answers to these questions. For obvious reasons, some of what we say in this episode may be deemed 'profane', so be prepared!
Shamon.
2018-10-222h 18Music And WePart 1: The Sacred (MJ and PRN edition)In this 5th episode of Music And We, Jesse and jamilah discuss the concept of the 'sacredness' of words, music, images, etc.; and how contradictions arise based on perceptions of what is sacred. Are any of these things sacred? Have times changed to the point where nothing is sacred? Have we been wrong the whole time? Are Prince and Michael any less valued as humans based on their own contraditions? Stay tuned...
2018-10-172h 22Music And WeSometimes We Cry In April: The Mental Health EpisodeJesse 'Jester' and jamilah speak about the contextual and possible circumstances around the art of Prince Rogers Nelson and Michael Jackson, in regards to their mental health. It must be noted that this is predominately our opinion, and may or may not reflect the views or experiences of Michael or Prince when they were here. Please forgive us for the variations in sound, background noises, etc. We are but two humble podcasters (living in two different areas), and are aware we are in need of better equipment. With that, we hope this doesn't take away from the content, and that...2018-09-281h 52Music And WeOn Stan Culture...You get two episodes in a row! Here, Jesse and jamilah discuss the damaging effects of 'Stan' culture, and how it clouds perception of how artists like Prince and Michael Jackson are seen. Stan culture denies the humanity of artists in favor of idolization and rationalization of celebrities' problematic behaviors.
2018-09-151h 32Music And We'Decoding' Prince and MJ songs...Jesse and jamilah return with another episode (one which is massively late, we might add), continuing to build from the first. We have not even touched the surface here, but of course it's a start to the conversation. There will definitely be more to come.
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Music And WeHAPPY MICHAEL JACKSON DAY!!!Welcome to our inaugural episode! Jesse 'Jester' Jenkins (Europe) and jamilah bourdon (U.S.) have shared a common love and respect for the works of Michael Jackson and Prince for some time now, and advances in technology have enabled us to share the love with the masses. The show's goal is to examine the sociopolitical nuances of their works, and by extension, lives. This episode is honoring Michael Joseph Jackson, on what would have been his 60th born day. We discuss how he inspires us, his cultural and political significance, and our favorite songs.
(This episode is dedicate...2018-08-291h 52