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There’s No Business Like...Ep. 158 It's a Pod-iversary!Ep. 158 It's a Pod-iversary! It’s a three-year celebration episode for the pod! Thank you all for joining us on this journey. If you are new here, you can find some “starter” playlists here: https://nobusinesslike.com/spotify-playlists Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

2025-10-1526 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 100 Peter Noone: Watch Every ActEp. 100 Peter Noone: Watch Every Act It’s our ONE HUNDREDTH EPISODE and to celebrate Josh sits down with a living legend, Peter Noone! Peter shares stories of his incredible (and still going) career. Our host share their 100 favorite things and dream of booking the bills of the 60s. Don’t forget you can see us at MAX in booth #512 Peter Noone (https://peternoone.com/) is a multi talented entertainer known best for Herman’s Hermits Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobu...

2024-09-1156 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 99 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 2: Must Have Passion Ep. 99 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 2: Must Have Passion Welcome back to Part 2 of Bryan’s conversation with Colleen Jennings-Roggensack; while you can listen to this as a standalone episode, we would recommend starting with Part 1. This week Colleen talks about EDIA, creating the New Deal for Broadway (https://www.blacktheatreunited.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/BTU-New-Deal-For-Broadway.pdf), bringing children to the theatre, and more. Colleen Jennings-Roggensack is the Executive Director of ASU Gammage (https://www.asugammage.com/). She is the Vice Chair of the Road for the Broadway League Board of Governors, the only Tony Awards voter in the s...

2024-09-0454 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 98 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 1: Broaden Your Horizon's to be a Success Ep. 98 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 1: Broaden Your Horizon's to be a Success This week our hosts are on the road recording in person at the Western Arts Alliance (WAA) Conference! It is also the first two-parter, because this week’s guest is a true rockstar in our industry, and a recent Tony Award Honoree. Colleen Jennings-Roggensack shares stories, insights, and lessons learned from her incredible career. Colleen Jennings-Roggensack is the Executive Director of ASU Gammage (https://www.asugammage.com/). She is the Vice Chair of the Road for the Broadway League Board of Governors, the only Tony...

2024-08-2858 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 97 Gretchen Shope: Defying My Own Expectations Ep. 97 Gretchen Shope: Defying My Own Expectations Katie sits down with fellow Michigander and JIMMY AWARD WINNER, Gretchen Shope! Gretchen shares her passion for the performing arts, her gratefulness for her arts education, and gives us a peak backstage of the Jimmy Awards. Don’t forget you can see our hosts at the Western Arts Alliance Conference next week! You can also see us at MAX in booth #512 Gretchen Shope is the 2024 Jimmy Award (https://www.jimmyawards.com/) winner for Best Performance by an Actress. You can see her award-winning performance here: https://ww...

2024-08-2151 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 96 Randy Cohen: Make the Arts Unavoidable Ep. 96 Randy Cohen: Make the Arts Unavoidable This week Kevin sits down with his Arts Hero, Randy Cohen to talk about how the arts impact our lives with a heavy focus on the economic impact. Randy shares how he got started in the arts and helps our listeners to advocate for the arts. Our hosts share arts moments along with some exciting news, that we are coming to the Western Arts Alliance Conference! Randy Cohen is the Vice President of Research at Americans for the Arts. Randy and his team led the Arts and Economic P...

2024-08-1457 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 95 Stephanie Mayers: Leave Space for What’s Possible Ep. 95 Stephanie Mayers: Leave Space for What’s Possible This week our hosts kick off the conversation talking about the great, boring, or weird PR they’ve gotten in the past, probably because they didn’t have Stephanie Mayers as their publicist. Stephanie talks with Danielle about being a part of the emergence and growth of the contemporary family music scene, running her own business, and gives us the 101 on what a publicist actually does. Stephanie Mayers is the founder of Mayers Consulting (http://www.mayersconsulting.com/), an artist management, public relations, and booking firm.

2024-08-0753 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 94 Heather Augustine: Bother Me Ep. 94 Heather Augustine: Bother Me Katie and Josh sit down with Heather Augustine, the head audio technician on the Tony Award-winning musical, The Outsiders. Heather gives insight into the audio side of the performing arts, shares her story of being a female in a largely male dominated role, how to take care of yourself on tour, and much more! Our hosts talk about women working backstage and how much (or how little) has changed, hiring bias, and what they would do if they won a Tony – spoilers, lots of ego :) Heather Augustine is a Mix...

2024-07-3156 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 93 Eleanor and Ian Carney: Copy That, Thank You Ep. 93 Eleanor and Ian Carney: Copy That, Thank You The Pod Squad is back! Our hosts share what they have been up to for the past six weeks before Bryan shares his conversation with husband-and-wife team, Eleanor and Ian Carney. They share their journey to creating Lightwire Theater, working together as a couple, and the importance of learning other skills in the industry. Eleanor and Ian Carney joint direct, manage, choreograph Lightwire Theater (https://www.lightwiretheater.com/). Lightwire Theater is a unique entertainment experience that utilizes light, technology, and music to tell captivating stories. ...

2024-07-2459 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 92: How to Mentor with Ally Haynes-Hamblin and Larry Kosson Ep. 92: How to Mentor with Ally Haynes-Hamblin and Larry Kosson As conference season fast approaches, the NBL team has another episode to help prepare you. Mentorship may not feel like a conference prep episode, but the NBL team would like to encourage more people to participate in conference mentorship whether as a mentor (for our experienced conference attendees) or a mentee (for those new to a conference). Kevin sits down with friends of the show and experienced mentors, Ally Haynes-Hamblin and Larry Kosson where they share tips and tricks for both potential mentors and mentees. A...

2024-07-1746 min

There’s No Business Like...NBL UPDATE: How We Conference! Volume 2NBL UPDATE: How We Conference! Volume 2 This year we wanted to give our listeners more time to plan for their conference season, so this one is coming at you earlier in the year. We have also included a representative from the Western Arts Alliance, Heartland Performing Arts, Inc. (Midwest Arts Xpo), and the Association of Performing Arts Professionals, to tell you why you should attend conferences and what you can look forward to. PLEASE NOTE: While the team will be at MAX, the booth number mentioned is from 2023, at MAX 2024 find us at booth 512! W...

2024-07-101h 03

There’s No Business Like...NBL Rewind: Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid.NBL Rewind: Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid. Bryan takes us back to his and Kevin’s conversation with Michael Mushalla. Bryan reflects on how the summit created by Michael brought the hosts together, and how it encouraged him to show his true self and to think differently. This week's episode is another special one! It highlights Michael Mushalla who introduced our hosts, and helped us all think differently about what comes next. Michael Mushalla is the Owner and Founder of Double M Arts & Events, LLC (https://double-m-arts.com/), as well as...

2024-07-0337 min

There’s No Business Like...NBL Rewind: Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a ChecklistNBL Rewind: Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a Checklist Danielle takes us back to Sara Morgulis this week, because this is an episode she revisits to remind herself to keep going in this work, and because Sara gives tangible ways to normalize access, embed trauma-informed training, and lead with respect. Danielle and Katie take time this week to talk with Sara Morgulis about theatre for young audiences. Sara talks about what TYA/USA does, the organization’s growth, her clear passion for accessibility in the arts, advocating for teaching artists, and so much more. Our host...

2024-06-2656 min

There’s No Business Like...NBL Rewind: Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success NBL Rewind: Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success This week, Josh takes us back to Danielle’s interview with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Josh chose this episode because it brought to light problematic areas in our industry. On this episode, our hosts talk about safety leading into Danielle’s engaging conversation with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Dominic shares his creative process, including his perspective on how an audience perceives his projects after creation, and how becoming a parent changed the way he was making art. Dominic and Danielle also discuss the act of “trauma mining” in the arts and specifical...

2024-06-1951 min

There’s No Business Like...NBL Rewind: Bill Blagg: An Overnight Success NBL Rewind: Bill Blagg: An Overnight Success On this week’s NBL Rewind, host Kevin Maynard re-shares his conversation with Bill Blagg. Kevin chose this conversation for the great content on the business of show business and for all of the laughs. He believes this episode is a great reminder of all the friendships we build in this industry. This week Kevin sits down with his friend and magician, Bill Blagg. With Bill’s help, Kevin shares some of the lingo from the magic world with our fellow hosts. Bill shares his lifelong journey to wh...

2024-06-1259 min

There’s No Business Like...NBL Rewind: Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition NBL Rewind: Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition On this week's NBL Rewind, host Katie Miller shares her conversation with Sarah McCarthy. Katie chose this conversation because it inspired her and asks you to listen and reflect on Sarah’s advice of trusting your intuition, taking chances, and following what feels right to you. On this episode, Katie sits down with Sarah McCarthy to talk about theatre for young audiences, new projects, and juggling life with a full workload. Our hosts reminisce about their questionable music choices as young children and acknowledge that you can love you...

2024-06-0546 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 85 Pod Squad: Time for Mental HealthEp. 85 Pod Squad: Time for Mental Health This week’s episode is short, but very honest. The Pod Squad is opening up about their mental health and taking some time off. Don’t worry though! We are re-releasing some episodes that made us laugh and made us think. You can listen to those, or get caught up on our extensive back catalogue. Take care friends! We will be back with new episodes on mid-July. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our the...

2024-05-2921 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 84 Jorge Casco: From Handcuffs to Cufflinks Ep. 84 Jorge Casco: From Handcuffs to Cufflinks This week Kevin plays a game of Gen-Z Slang with his fellow hosts before he shares his in-depth conversation with Jorge Casco. Jorge shares his turbulent start in the arts, how the arts can save lives, the power of an individual, and reminds us that we are all loved. Jorge Casco is the Executive Director of FLY Dance Company (https://www.flydancecompany.com/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is...

2024-05-2157 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 83 Lauren Jelencovich: Stay Present and Be Yourself Ep. 83 Lauren Jelencovich: Stay Present and Be Yourself Bryan sits down with Lauren Jelencovich to talk about her impressive career. Lauren shares her journey from winning Star Search to attending the Manhattan School of Music to touring with Yanni as his featured vocalist for 13 years. Our hosts share phone calls that changed their lives and the importance of being present and saying yes. Lauren Jelencovich (https://www.laurenjelencovich.com/) is a touring classical crossover artist. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod ...

2024-05-1542 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 82 David Alpert: Find the Solution Ep. 82 David Alpert: Find the Solution Katie sits down with a former fellow Michigander, David Alpert, to talk all things Broadway. David shares his journey from wanting to be a theatre director in 5th grade to directing on Broadway. Katie and David talk about the impact of their local theatre scene growing up, the different roles on a Broadway directing team, and the importance of “showing up.” David Alpert is a New York City-based theatre director, adjunct faculty at NYU, and the creator and host of the “E-Ticket to Broadway” podcast (https://www.eticketpodcast.com/) Fo...

2024-05-0858 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 81 Mark Morris and Nancy Umanoff: Dance. Music. Community. Ep. 81 Mark Morris and Nancy Umanoff: Dance. Music. Community. Our hosts spend this week thinking about what they thought they would be when they grew up. Josh and Kevin share their conversation with Mark Morris, who the New York Times called, “the most successful and influential choreographer alive, and indisputably the most musical” and Nancy Umanoff, the masterful executive director whose work creates the space for Mark Morris and the Mark Morris Dance Group to create art. They share their 38-year journey together, the creation of the Mark Morris Dance Center, and the challenges of the evolving fundin...

2024-05-011h 05

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 80 Merrill Miller: Be a Sponge Ep. 80 Merrill Miller: Be a Sponge This week we start with video games that taught us something before Bryan and Josh sit down with fellow presenter, Merrill Miller. Merrill shares his journey from booking his high school band gigs to booking bands at the North Shore Center. He talks about the challenges of booking a venue so close to Chicago, what a performing arts center can be, the importance of hospitality for performers, and a little about his hobby outside of the industry. Merrill Miller is the Manager of Concerts/Marketing Assistant at the North S...

2024-04-2446 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 79 Jeeyoon Kim: A Degree Doesn’t Guarantee Anything Ep. 79 Jeeyoon Kim: A Degree Doesn’t Guarantee Anything Our hosts start this week’s episode talking about changing traditions. Bryan shares his conversation with award-winning performer, Jeeyoon Kim. Jeeyoon shares how and why she is challenging the traditions of classical music, her unique start in Korea with playing the piano, and the challenges of being a classical music performer after university. Jeeyoon Kim is a classical pianist, educator, author (https://www.jeeyoonkim.com/product-page/whenever-you-re-ready-autographed-copy) and a podcaster (https://www.jeeyoonkim.com/podcast) with a mission to create a bridge between her as a perfo...

2024-04-1758 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 78 Sarah Saltwick: Bring Your Whole Self Ep. 78 Sarah Saltwick: Bring Your Whole Self This week, Danielle and Katie share their conversation with the powerhouse that is Sarah Saltwick. They dig into taking ownership of Holden & Arts, managing the agency with three leaders, and what running an agency entails. Sarah also shares how she got started in the industry, how she continues to get involved and learn more, and attempting to balance business, life, and her artistic endeavors. Our hosts this week take a look back in their lives to what seemed like simpler times. Sarah Saltwick is a Co-Director of...

2024-04-1058 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 77 John Ernesto: Take Care of the Artist, Take Care of the Fans Ep. 77 John Ernesto: Take Care of the Artist, Take Care of the Fans To start this episode our hosts discuss the artist they presented that created that surreal moment of “I can’t believe this is happening”. Bryan and John discuss the origin of the Berks Jazz Fest and its subsequent development. His theory on taking care of the artist and the fans and the rest will take care of itself. We learn about how the Jazz Fest developed through community partnerships and everyone being on board. John is retiring as general manager and artistic director o...

2024-04-0345 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 76 Jenny Sirota and Didi Perez: Be Confident, Stay Educated, and Stay FlexibleEp. 76 Jenny Sirota and Didi Perez: Be Confident, Stay Educated, and Stay Flexible Our hosts share their choices for “live on stage” adaptations before Josh shares his conversation with Jenny and Didi. They share their incredible journey in starting RoadCo in collaboration with Sony Music Entertainment. This honest conversation shares the ins and outs of this relationship, what it takes to put a show on the road, and how relationships with presenters help influence new touring shows. Didi Perez and Jenny Sirota are both Principal Agents for RoadCo Entertainment (https://www.roadcoentertainment.com/) Foll...

2024-03-2749 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 75 Joshua Heim: Embed Art in Your CommunityEp. 75 Joshua Heim: Embed Art in Your Community This week Katie and Kevin sit down with Joshua Heim to talk equity, Western Arts Alliance, the state of the arts and more. Josh shares his journey in the arts, Hula as a lifestyle, working with and for constituents, and the role of the arts in communities. Our hosts this week share awkward meetings and interesting meeting locations. Joshua Heim is the Executive Director of Western Arts Alliance (https://www.westarts.org/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions...

2024-03-2054 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 74 Ally Haynes-Hamblin: Trust Yourself and Go with the FlowEp. 74 Ally Haynes-Hamblin: Trust Yourself and Go with the Flow Our hosts share just some of the many influential women in their lives. Danielle sits down with another influential woman in our lives, Ally Haynes-Hamblin. Ally shares her lineage in the arts, the challenging role of being a "fixer,” her leadership style and philosophy, and how to get involved in a community. Ally Haynes-Hamblin is the Executive Director of the Charles W. Eisemann Center for Performing Arts in Richardson, Texas (https://www.eisemanncenter.com/). Ally is also a board member for the Association of Per...

2024-03-1357 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 73 Jim Lenz: Transparency Leads to TrustEp. 73 Jim Lenz: Transparency Leads to Trust Our hosts share their dreams on what they would do with an abandoned mall before our guest Jim Lenz joins Josh for a conversation. Jim shares his love for live music, booking artists into venues in high school, importance of artists taking control of their marketing, and changes in PAC rock shows over the years. Jim Lenz is with TKO Booking Agency (https://tkoco.com/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our t...

2024-03-0643 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 72 David Rowell: Inspiring the Next GenerationEp. 72 David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation Our hosts talk about times they said, “never again,” and then totally did again. This week Bryan sits down with David Rowell, an amazing educator and mentor in the industry. David shares his introduction to the arts, clown ministry, his incredible career, opening performance venues, and teaching the future of the industry. He is joined by two of his students, Ashanique Riche and Hannah Pogemiller, who share their unique view of the industry and an inside look at the program at Dean College. David Rowell is the Asso...

2024-02-2849 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 71 The Okee Dokee Brothers: Being Connected to Families is an HonorEp. 71 The Okee Dokee Brothers: Being Connected to Families is an Honor Before we kick-off this week’s interview the Pod Squad gives their opinion on camping, and the team congrats Josh on his appointment to the board of NAPAMA (https://www.napama.org/). The Okee Dokee Brothers join the podcast to be interviewed by their number one grownup fan, Katie Miller! They share how they started the group, their adventure albums, engaging with their fans to market their shows, turning down a GRAMMY nomination, and more. Joe Mailander and Justin Lansing make up The...

2024-02-211h 00

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 70 Sarah Rogers: The Scariest Things Are the Most RewardingEp. 70 Sarah Rogers: The Scariest Things Are the Most Rewarding Our hosts talk about big professional risks and this week Kevin shares his conversation with Sarah Rogers. Sarah shares her early introduction to the arts, her introduction to being an agent, the challenges of touring major dance pieces and more. Sarah also shares the importance of mentorship and the importance of funding mentorship programs. Our host continue the conversation about dance, international work, and green touring. Sarah Rogers is an agent and producer representing Dana Gingras, Animals of Distinction (https://animalsofdistinction.org/) ...

2024-02-1449 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 69 Dan Talmi: The Art of RebrandingEp. 69 Dan Talmi: The Art of Rebranding Our hosts talk about “pandemic pivots,” before Josh’s engaging conversation with Dan Talmi. Dan Talmi shares his almost reluctant start in the family business, overseeing an impressive rebrand amid global conflict, the evolution of marketing, merchandising as an experience, and so much more. Our hosts continue the conversation and discuss the concept of the “house merch cut.” Dan Talmi is a Producing Director at Talmi Entertainment, the company behind the holiday classic, Nutcracker! Magical Christmas Ballet (https://nutcracker.com/) Follow us on social media...

2024-02-0757 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 68 Jared Freiburg: Roll With the Punches and Treat People With RespectEp. 68 Jared Freiburg: Roll With the Punches and Treat People With Respect The Pod Squad talks who they would play in a biopic, with varying levels of seriousness. This week Katie talks with Jared Freiburg, who “can play like a mother”, about his incredible and short (but still unfolding) career. Jared shares how he started working in the touring industry, life as a cruise ship performer, life on the road, starting his own band, the challenges of being a performer, and so much more. Jared also shares some tangible takeaways for new artists who want to get star...

2024-01-3151 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 67 Dena Blizzard: Learn Your Craft, Be FunnyEp. 67 Dena Blizzard: Learn Your Craft, Be Funny Our hosts share embarrassing moments before Bryan and Josh share their conversation with comedian Dena Blizzard. Dena tells her story of being a comic, creating an off-Broadway show, and eventually creating a multi-media company, starting with her unique approach to marketing. Dena shares funny stories and poignant moments in her career. Dena Blizzard is a comedian, mother of three and creator of “One Funny Mother”, a multi-media company creating content (https://www.onefunnymother.com/), products and live comedy shows about “Wine, Women and Laughter”. Fol...

2024-01-2459 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 66 Pam Komar: Mindful Service Ep. 66 Pam Komar: Mindful Service This week Katie shares her conversation with friend of the podcast Pam Komar of the Pittsburgh Cultural Trust. They discuss the power of embracing change, how to focus on wellness and taking care of yourself, and how particular programming areas are avenues to connecting with disengaged audiences. Pam also shares the history of the Cultural Trust and the impact it continues to have on Pittsburgh. Our hosts share how they unplug and take time for themselves, and we discover that Kevin is actually from the Jersey Shore. Pam Komar is...

2024-01-1754 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 65 Wone Vang: Never Give Up on Your Stupid Stupid DreamsEp. 65 Wone Vang: Never Give Up on Your Stupid Stupid Dreams Kevin tries out his old-timey radio voice before sitting down with Wone Vang. Wone shares the struggle of being a full-time artist and full-time employee, the Guaranteed Income Program she is managing for Springboard for the Arts, and the importance of pay equity. Our hosts talk about their life in cross stich, what individuals can do to increase pay equity, and how we can learn more on these topics. Wone Vang is an artist (https://3drdcrafts.com/) and the Economic Opportunity Director at Springboard for...

2024-01-1032 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 64 Micah Christian: A Process UnfoldingEp. 64 Micah Christian: A Process Unfolding This week Bryan sits down with the lead vocalist of Sons of Serendip, Micah Christian. Micah opens up about his journey into creating music, learning to not compare himself to others, life on the road, and more. Meanwhile, our hosts have a rousing conversation about ringtones and ring backs, Bryan effectively shuts down criticism, and realize we all have learning to do on how the music charts work. Micah Christian is an artist passionate about storytelling, composing, and performing music that supports, enhances, and creates meaningful moments. He is t...

2024-01-0353 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 63 It’s a New Years’ Spectacular! … with Guests!Ep. 63 It’s a New Years’ Spectacular! … with Guests! The holiday season is busy and filled with surprises just like this episode! Three guests + 5 hosts = 1 fun filled episode! We’d like to thank our guests Christine Cox, Tracie Lawie, and Barron Ryan for closing out the year with us with some games and some resolutions. Thank you for listening this past year! Christine Cox – Ep. 16: is the Owner and Founder of C Squared Entertainment (https://www.csquaredentertainment.com/) and the Executive Producer of the Off Broadway family-friendly magic show, The Amazing Max (http://theamazingmaxlive.com/). Trac...

2023-12-2750 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 62 Sara Barasch: It Doesn’t Have to be PerfectEp. 62 Sara Barasch: It Doesn’t Have to be Perfect Katie connects with friend of the pod, Sara Barasch. Katie and Sara dive into industry hot topics including block booking, the booking cycle, how to connect with venues/buyers, and how a childhood of dance and musical theatre led her to becoming an agent. Our hosts talk about pivotal show moments in their lives, the importance of relationship building with agents you are working with, and more. Sara Barasch is the Senior Vice President, Booking Manager at IMG Artists (https://imgartists.com/) Follow us...

2023-12-2056 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 61 Devin and Lolita Walker: Know Your Worth Ep. 61 Devin and Lolita Walker: Know Your Worth This week our hosts kick off the conversation discussing being in business with family. This week Danielle sits down with the powerhouse couple Devin and Lolita Walker. Danielle, Devin, and Lolita talk in-depth about being business owners, the lives of teaching artists, and the need for advocacy around working conditions and fair pay for teaching artists. They also discuss the importance of asking for help, transferrable skills, and taking time off to rest. Devin and Lolita Walker are the co-owners of The Uncle Devin Show, a live m...

2023-12-1352 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 60 Barron Ryan: The Evidence of BeautyEp. 60 Barron Ryan: The Evidence of Beauty This week our hosts guide you in creating your own mission statement, and share a bit about their own. Kevin sits down with the effortlessly cool Barron Ryan, to talk about how he got started, his creative process, being named one of Smithsonian's Top Innovators to watch in 2021, and his new book, Honey, If It Wasn’t for You. You can get a copy of his book at https://www.book.barronryan.com/ Barron Ryan (https://www.barronryan.com/) is a composer, performer, author, and creator. Fol...

2023-12-061h 02

There’s No Business Like...Ep 59 Kevin Maynard: People Come FirstEp 59 Kevin Maynard: People Come First Bryan and Josh host our final Interpodsquad interview with the incomparable Kevin Maynard. We learn about Kevin’s surprising (but unsurprisingly wholesome) first foray into live performance, how his business and accounting background gave him a firm foundation as an arts leader, and Kevin’s philosophies around taking on challenges and supporting his staff. The Mystery of the Mustache is also revealed! And Danielle, per usual, continues to torture Kevin. Kevin L. Maynard is the Executive Director of Quad City Arts, splitting the border between Iowa and Illinois (www.quad...

2023-11-2950 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 58 Pumpkin Pie Episode: The Lightning Rounds at MAXEp. 58 Pumpkin Pie Episode: The Lightning Rounds at MAX It’s Pumpkin Pie Week! This week the “Quad” Producers are kicking back and taking it easy with family and friends and what better to release than our final episode from our time with all our friends at the Midwest Arts Expo. Thank you to everyone who sat down with us in our booth. As an added bonus, we compiled a playlist with the answers to the question, “What is your favorite Broadway song?” https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6XHEZzfCHTIXR6de0DKk7q?si=6cfb6b749c314fca

2023-11-2245 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 57 Karra Beach: Calling the CuesEp. 57 Karra Beach: Calling the Cues Our hosts start out sharing the difficulties of working in the performing arts and why they have all had thoughts of leaving, and the brighter side of why they don’t and why they love what they do. Josh spends time catching up with an old friend, Karra Beach. They talk about her journey in and outside of the industry, engaging students in the performing arts, deeper engagement with their Broadway subscribers, the complexities of Broadway contracts, and more. We also learn that there is very little Josh won’t do for...

2023-11-1548 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 56 Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a ChecklistEp. 56 Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a Checklist Danielle and Katie take time this week to talk with Sara Morgulis about theatre for young audience. Sara talks about what TYA/USA does, the organizations growth, her clear passion for accessibility in the arts, advocating for teaching artists, and so much more. Our hosts share the core tenets of their leadership philosophies and talk about the inviting role that accessibility plays in our industry. Sara Morgulis is the Executive Director at Theatre for Young Audience USA – TYA/USA (https://www.tyausa.org/) Follow us on so...

2023-11-0854 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 55 Simon Shaw: Make Friends, Don’t Be an A**holeEp. 55 Simon Shaw: Make Friends, Don’t Be an A**hole This week's interview is a long-time in the making as Katie and Kevin sit down with good friend of the podcast, Simon Shaw. Simon shares his journey in the arts that took him from the UK to the United States and from being a promotor to founding an agency. He also shares the new challenges of booking in the arts. Simon references research from New Victory Theatre (https://www.newvictory.org/about/research/impact-of-performing-arts-on-kids/) Our host continue the conversation and share what group they...

2023-11-0144 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 54 Caroline Neyman: Change is InevitableEp. 54 Caroline Neyman: Change is Inevitable Our hosts remember moments their colleagues did something kind for them or made them feel special. Katie spends some time sitting down with her friend Caroline Neyman. Caroline talks about being at a performance venue from the ground up, imposter syndrome, being a parent in the arts industry, and more. Caroline Neyman is the Senior Director of Operations at Sonoma State University’s Green Music Center (https://gmc.sonoma.edu/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/no...

2023-10-2557 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 53: It’s an Anniversary Episode!Ep. 53: It’s an Anniversary Episode! It’s been a full year of episodes and this week the “Quad” Producers took some time to celebrate this major milestone and look back on 52 weeks of episodes. Thanks for all of your support and we are looking forward to another year of laughter and learning. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

2023-10-1830 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 52: Live From Our Booth at MAX Part 2Ep. 52: Live From Our Booth at MAX Part 2 We are back with the rest of booth interview from MAX! The team spent three days in the Exhibit Hall at the Midwest Arts Expo, and while we weren’t talking to agents in their booths, we were talking to people in ours! This episode features 19 interviews! Included in this episode: Robert Baird, Jackie Banks-Mahlum, Kara Bechstein, Kiersten Birondo, Reba Cafarelli, Jason Cohen, Maltz Maryann Crist, Genevieve DeMerchant, Jared Duymovic, Anne Grove, Audrey Johnson, Spring Karlo, Jacob Kinderman, David Mitchell, Fiona Nagle, Carey Rayburn, Leslie Rodriguez, Ja...

2023-10-111h 21

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 51: Live From Our Booth at MAX Part 1 Ep. 51: Live From Our Booth at MAX Part 1 How do celebrate a successful first time exhibiting? With a jam-packed episode of mini-interviews! The team spent three days in the Exhibit Hall at the Midwest Arts Expo, and while we weren’t talking to agents in their booths, we were talking to people in ours! This episode features 21 interviews! Included in this episode: Lindsay Bauer, Martha Boehm, Jorge Casco, Lisa Conlon, Tiana Conway, Margot Day, Etienne Gara, Victor Haskins, Ally Hayes-Hamblin, Steve Hoffman, Jeff Laramie, Chad Lindsay, Michela Musolino, Rocky Peter, Jessica Ro...

2023-10-041h 30

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 50 Peter Palermo: Be Okay with What You Don’t Know Ep. 50 Peter Palermo: Be Okay with What You Don’t Know This week Josh sits down with Peter Palermo at his venue The Sheldon. Peter talks about his journey to wanting to be an actor to production management to running a venue. He shares his approach to programing and the “Palermo Spice”, the unique and sometimes uncertain environment of working on a college campus, and buckling down to do the work. Our hosts talk about feeling comfortable with themselves and their position in the field, or their progress with that. Peter Palermo is the Executive Director...

2023-09-2747 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 49 Katie Trzaska-Miller: Creating Connections Ep. 49 Katie Trzaska-Miller: Creating Connections Danielle and Kevin continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, and this week we learn about our fellow host, Katie Miller. After a quick game of “How Pure Michigan is She?,” Katie shares her origin story starting as a dancer at a young age and eventually maintaining and managing an historic theatre on her own at the age of 23. Katie also shares her passion for her community, connecting colleagues, educating and bringing up the next generation, and having tough conversations about equity. Katie Trzaska-Miller is the Senior Manage...

2023-09-201h 02

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 48 Tara Bailey: Take Less Crap from People Ep. 48 Tara Bailey: Take Less Crap from People On this episode Danielle sits down with a friend of the pod, Tara Bailey. We learn how the Grateful Dead and planning underground parties led to a career in the arts. Through Tara’s story we learn about the challenges of visas, the differences in the arts between Canada and the US, the importance of community, and so much more. Our hosts realize they don’t know much about the differences between US and Canada culturally and talk funding and theatre for young audiences. Tara Bailey is the F...

2023-09-1346 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 47 Bill Blagg: An Overnight Success Ep. 47 Bill Blagg: An Overnight Success This week Kevin sits down with his friend and magician, Bill Blagg. With Bill’s help, Kevin shares some of the lingo from the magic world with our fellow hosts. Bill shares his lifelong journey to where he is now, the importance of hard work, how seeing his first Broadway show changed everything, and really highlights the business of show business. Bill also shares life on the road as a husband and a father. Meanwhile, our hosts are making cat noises. Bill Blagg is a magician, public speaker, entrepreneur, and...

2023-09-0659 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 46 Bryan Zellmer: Don’t Be Afraid to Show Your Silliness Ep. 46 Bryan Zellmer: Don’t Be Afraid to Show Your Silliness In this episode we continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, and this week Katie and Josh sit down with Bryan. Bryan shares his journey from marketing director to arts admin, how his programming style has shifted as our ecosystem changes, the pitfalls of “quality” art, and his passion for collaboration in every aspect of his life. He also shows off his natural storytelling skills sharing vulnerable, heartwarming, and hilarious parts of his life. Bryan Zellmer is the Director of KU Presen...

2023-08-3054 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 45 How We Conference! Ep. 45 How We Conference! We are fast approaching conference season, and in the episode our hosts talk about their approach to conferencing. Choosing your conference, what to do before you attend, while you are there, and even following up. They even cover some tips on what to pack so you are prepared! You can find highlights, advice, and links in a PDF on our website: https://nobusinesslike.com/ Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by...

2023-08-2340 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 44 Ron DeStefano: Too Crazy to Make Up Ep. 44 Ron DeStefano: Too Crazy to Make Up Josh and Danielle sit down with the ever engaging, Ron Destefano. Ron shares his journey in the industry starting with degrees in Music and Chemistry to performing full-time, to starting a management company. We even learn about his connection with Ariana Grande! Our hosts also discuss how important self-awareness, humility, authenticity, and passion are as we move through our careers in our industry. Ron Destafano is the Producing Director of EPIC Arts Management (https://www.epicartsmanagement.com/) and performing artist. Follow us on social media a...

2023-08-1654 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 43 Danielle Van Hook: Comforting, Yet Challenging Ep. 43 Danielle Van Hook: Comforting, Yet Challenging In this episode we continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, this week Bryan and Katie sit down with Danielle, and finally put her in the hot seat! We learn about the journey that led her to arts administration, where her passion for DEIA comes from and why it’s important to her, how she programs entertainment and keeps it accessible, and so much more. Danielle also shares her love of the Pocahontas Project (https://www.pocahontasproject.org/) and the podcast Seeing White (https://sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/)...

2023-08-0953 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 42 Mason Moss: Be UndeniableEp. 42 Mason Moss: Be Undeniable In this episode our hosts learn some new (and old) theatre terms in what was definitely not a game and Kevin sits down with Mason Moss. Mason talks about how he got started touring with the Book of Mormon, getting to conduct on Broadway, and gives some incredible advice to those just getting started. Mason Moss (@bluesinmossflat) is the Music Director for the Book of Mormon National Tour (https://thebookofmormontour.com/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/no...

2023-08-0249 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 41 Jeremy Davis and Clay Johnson: Visionaries and Integrators Ep. 41 Jeremy Davis and Clay Johnson: Visionaries and Integrators In this episode our hosts discuss pivotal moments that that led to their careers. Josh and Bryan sit down with Jeremy Davis and Clay Johnson of The Fabulous Equinox Orchestra. They discuss their beginning in music and how that developed into being lifelong best friends. Jeremy talks about the process of jumping off the cliff into music full time. We also dive into the concepts from rocketfuel and how important it is to have complimentary skill sets. Jeremy Davis and Clay Johnson are the frontmen for Th...

2023-07-2653 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 40 Josh Benson: Making Time Ep. 40 Josh Benson: Making Time In this episode we do something a little different and interview one of our own! Join Danielle and Kevin as they sit down with fellow host, Josh Benson. Josh answers the hard-hitting questions like which one of the seven dwarves he identifies most with and what prank he wants to pull on his fellow host. Eventually, Josh shares the journey from theatre to autobody work and back to theatre, his change in leadership style, the impressive arts driven growth in Marion, IL, his family, and so much more. Some of his mural...

2023-07-1951 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 39 Andre Bouchard: Erasing Invisibility of Indigenous People Ep. 39 Andre Bouchard: Erasing Invisibility of Indigenous People In this episode our hosts explore what their own states do or do not have in place from a systemic standpoint for the acknowledgement of Indigenous People that were native to those lands. Danielle sits down for a conversation with Andre Bouchard. Through this conversation we gain insight into not just the importance of land acknowledgements, but why the intent behind them is of much more importance. We learn about how Andre Crafted his roster of Indigenous performers and ensembles; and the importance of their presence on stages across...

2023-07-1248 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 38 Chris Fontakis: Be Free to Fail Ep. 38 Chris Fontakis: Be Free to Fail In this episode our hosts discuss their favorite sketch comedy personalities, and Bryan sits down with Chris Fontakis; the founder of Serious Comedy Theater. Chris dives into his history with Upright Citizens Brigade , IO West, and The Groundlings. He also discusses starting his own company and what it meant to start it in a small town like Beacon, New York. Chris Fontakis is the founder of www.seriouscomedytheatre.com Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/n...

2023-07-0544 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 37 Neil Murray: Be a Listener Ep. 37 Neil Murray: Be a Listener In this episode our hosts talk about their favorite concerts, and Josh sits down with an absolute legend, Neil Murray. Neil shares his unlikely path into the theatrical arts, his role as a member of the founding team of the National Theatre of Scotland (https://www.nationaltheatrescotland.com/), his time as Executive Director of the Abbey Theatre – The National Theatre of Ireland (https://www.abbeytheatre.ie/), and so much more. Neil’s conversation leads the hosts post-interview conversations on equitable theatre practices and the challenges to change. Neil Murray is a...

2023-06-2851 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 36 Karoline Myers: Because it is Wonderful Ep. 36 Karoline Myers: Because it is Wonderful This week's episode has our hosts talking about great pieces of family and educational theatre, and Katie sits down with Karoline Myers. Karoline shares her journey in the field, the transition from managing a program to managing a team, and the importance of educational programing. She also reminds us of the power of relationships and networking. Karoline Myers is the Director of Education at the Des Moines Performing Arts (https://desmoinesperformingarts.org/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions...

2023-06-211h 01

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 35 Jacob Deaton: Work Hard and Be Patient Ep. 35 Jacob Deaton: Work Hard and Be Patient In this episode we learn about the Quadproducers chores or jobs as a child that they felt instilled a work ethic in them. Meanwhile, Josh sits down with Jacob Deaton and learns how he took advantage of his Sunday service time to learn more about music, how that led to his development of skills as a guitar player. We also learn how his secret drumset in high school turned into him being an accomplished guitar player. Jacob Deaton is the Owner of https://www.georgiaplayersguild.com...

2023-06-1440 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 34 Leah Keith: Ask More QuestionsEp. 34 Leah Keith: Ask More Questions Bryan sits down with Leah Keith co founder, Creative Producer, and agent for Rhythm of The Arts Producing Agency. We learn of her background as a Flamenco Dancer and on into her roles as an agent and eventually starting a new agency. Bryan and Leah dive into the corporate and organizational structure of some large corporate agencies. Leah closes the interview with some fantastic advice for anyone getting into the industry or in leadership at all. Also, our quad hosts discuss their early leadership styles and whether they were successful or not...

2023-06-0743 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 33 Adia Morris Swanger: Show Up in Places Where People Don’t Expect YouEp. 33 Adia Morris Swanger: Show Up in Places Where People Don’t Expect You Adia Morris Swanger sits down with Kevin to talk about the business skills needed in the arts and what Springboard for the Arts is doing to help provide those skills. Adia also shares the journey that led her to having a multi-faceted career in the arts and how she manages it all. Our hosts share their onstage mishaps and talk about life with kids while working in the arts. Adia Morris Swanger is the Program Manager, Professional Development at Springboard for the...

2023-05-3152 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 32 Bob Bennett: Quality Takes TimeEp. 32 Bob Bennett: Quality Takes Time Bob Bennett, and his impressive beard, join Josh for a conversation about Jazz, Jazz St. Louis, and all of the options of being part of the industry outside of performance. Bob talks about how change and growth takes time, vision, and a good team. Our hosts share their spirit/drink of choice, so now you know what to get us when you see us at “the hang” at conferences! The team also discuss more important topics like the economics of the arts and the many opportunities outside of just perfo...

2023-05-2447 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 31 Meena Malik: Don’t Be Afraid to Speak UpEp. 31 Meena Malik: Don’t Be Afraid to Speak Up Katie sits down with Meena Malik to discuss genuine relationship building outside of programming, focusing on the importance of the relationship between arts funders and those they fund or want to fund, the importance of building a relationship when inviting someone to have meaningful and potentially traumatic conversations, and more. Our hosts talk about impactful moments in arts education, and some resources for tough conversations in the EDI space. Seeing White: https://www.sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/ Harvard Kennedy School Library Racial Justice Rea...

2023-05-171h 02

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 30 Anthony Wilkinson: You Have to Love What You DoEp. 30 Anthony Wilkinson: You Have to Love What You Do Bryan chats with Anthony Wilkinson about his many paths into and around the performing arts. They talk about his hit show My Big Gay Italian Wedding, his start as a writer in soap operas, his public speaking, and his eventual journey to leading the Avenel Performing Arts Center. Our hosts discuss surprising audience successes, soap operas, and the need for open conversations around burnout and getting to proper staffing levels. Anthony Wilkinson is the Executive and Artistic Director of the Avenel Performing Arts Center (https...

2023-05-1053 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 29 Tracey Lawie: an a-ha moment; a defining momentEp. 29 Tracey Lawie: an a-ha moment; a defining moment Today we hear about our "Quadproducers" first Broadway experiences. Then, Josh talks with Tracey Lawie about Booking Broadway, and the importance of representation in the arts. She discusses the rewarding parts of an art admin position, and how they are based in transformations. Tracey Lawie is the Director of the Miller Auditorium (https://www.millerauditorium.com/). Americans for the Arts- Arts and Economic Prosperity - Americans For The Arts Economic Study Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts a...

2023-05-0358 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 28 Jonathan Burns: Making It More RidiculousEp. 28 Jonathan Burns: Making It More Ridiculous Episode 28 starts with our Quadhosts chatting about the weather and then into talking about the presence of our families in our spaces. Then Bryan sits down with comedic magician Jonathan Burns as they chat about how he got into magic, how some of his funniest bits came about, and his post pandemic view on family and work-life balance. Information about Jonathan Burns, as well as his tour schedule can be found at www.iheartburns.com Follow us on social media and let us know you...

2023-04-2655 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 27 Dan Mann: Career by AccidentEp. 27 Dan Mann: Career by Accident In this episode, the pod squad debates their preferred handheld chicken preferences and Josh has an engaging interview with Dan Mann! Dan shares his journey to becoming an agent, starting a label and publishing company, and now producing a TV Show. Dan Mann is the Owner/Agent at Agency Etc (www.agency-etc.com) in Nashville. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

2023-04-1951 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 26 Mark Wilson: Take Those RisksEp. 26 Mark Wilson: Take Those Risks This week, our hosts take a moment to reflect on teachers who had an impact on their lives. Brian sits down with the energetic, fountain of knowledge, Mark Wilson. They touch on a number of topics, including a masterclass on connecting with your entire community. Mark Wilson is the Executive Director of the Zoellner Arts Center at Lehigh University (https://zoellner.cas.lehigh.edu/home). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

2023-04-121h 01

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 25 Natalie Marrero: Ancestral KeysEp. 25 Natalie Marrero: Ancestral Keys On this week's episode, our hosts talk about the impact and their love of people who are passionate about what they do. Josh and Danielle sit down with one of these individuals, Natalie Marerro. Natalie talks about becoming an Executive Director at 23, the impact of Viver Brasil, and the importance of “Ancestral Keys.“ Natalie Marrero is the Executive Director of Viver Brasil (https://www.viverbrasil.com/). She is passionate about place-making for communities through art practices and has dedicated her career to preserving culture. Follow u...

2023-04-0550 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 24 Jerry and Adrienne Crane-Ross: Get to Know Your MarketplaceEp. 24 Jerry and Adrienne Crane-Ross: Get to Know Your Marketplace In episode 24, our hosts recall adjacent experience that loosely correlated to their current careers, and Josh and Kevin sit down to talk business with Jerry Ross and Adrienne Crane-Ross. Jerry discusses his path to the industry through being in a band and managing a rehearsal studio while Adrienne recalls her path into the industry through being a sound engineer and then a multiple Emmy Award winning PBS Children’s producer. Both Jerry and Adrienne worked through these experiences into their roles as agents in their agen...

2023-03-2941 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 23 Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium: The Future is Bright!Ep. 23 EALS: The Future is Bright! We are joined by the student leaders of the Emerging Arts Leaders Symposium (EALS), Morgan Fuller, Faith Smith, and Lisette DuFore. Katie jumped at the opportunity to chat with the future leaders in our industry to hear what is important to them as they enter the field. Our hosts share what they thought they would be doing when they were still in college, and share stories of the big actions they are taking in their organizations. American University (https://www.american.edu/) hosts the annual Emerging Arts Le...

2023-03-2256 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining SuccessEp. 22 Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success On this episode, our hosts talk about safety leading into Danielle’s engaging conversation with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Dominic shares his creative process, including his perspective on how an audience perceives his projects after creation, and how becoming a parent changed the way he was making art. Dominic and Danielle also discuss the act of “trauma mining” in the arts and specifically funding of minority art works. As a note, Dominic mentions a story about a singer at Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” Speech, that singer was Mahalia Jacks...

2023-03-1550 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 21 Stephen Sunderlin: Theatre is an ApprenticeshipEp. 21 Stephen Sunderlin: Theatre is an Apprenticeship On this episode, our hosts recall thing that drew them into booths at conferences, and Bryan sits down to talk business with Stephen Sunderlin. Stephen shares his story of moving to NYC and eventually becoming the Artistic Director at Vital Theatre Company. Stephen shares the benefits of connections, the details of producing new works, the importance of good marketing materials, and the value of being open to working every experience in theatre. Stephen Sunderlin is the Producing Artistic Director of Vital Theatre Company (https://www.vitaltheatre.org/) bringing...

2023-03-0842 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid.Ep. 20 Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid. This week's episode is another special one! It highlights Michael Mushalla who introduced our hosts, and helped us all think differently about what comes next. Michael Mushalla is the Owner and Founder of Double M Arts & Events, LLC (https://double-m-arts.com/), as well as a wine consultant. Michael Mushalla along with Christine Cox created “The Summit” that brought the hosts of “There’s No Business Like...” together. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - h...

2023-03-0135 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 19 Christine Cox: Keep Dreaming BigEp. 19 Christine Cox: Keep Dreaming Big This week's episode is a special one! It is the first of two that highlights the individuals that introduced our hosts. Our hosts talk about getting that phone call, and then Bryan, Danielle, and Kevin share their conversation with Christine Cox. Christine shares her journey from playing a Princess to owning her own agency and gives incredible insight on the risk vs. Reward of artist acquisitions and contract types. Christine Cox is the Owner and Founder of C Squared Entertainment (https://www.csquaredentertainment.com/) and the Executive Pr...

2023-02-2240 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 18 Christi Dortch: It’s About What We’re BuildingEp. 18 Christi Dortch: It’s About What We’re Building Our hosts talk about their favorite experience on stage. Katie chats with Christi Dortch about her career journey, when to listen to what your community is ready for and when to push them. Katie and Christi also discuss the relearning of in person communication coming out of the pandemic zoom meeting norm. The interview covers 3 things that you can use to shape your strategic plan and Christi discusses the function of state consortiums. Christi Dortch is a consultant in the nonprofit sector focusing on long term...

2023-02-1544 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 17 Marian Liebowitz: What Puts Fire in Your Belly?Ep. 17 Marian Liebowitz: What Puts Fire in Your Belly? Our hosts talk about the instruments they played when they were younger, and the importance of arts education. Bryan takes an opportunity to chat with Marian Liebowitz about her teaching background and the importance of the business side of our industry, as well as her unique approach to curating artists. Marian Liebowitz is the owner of Marian Liebowitz Artist Management (https://www.marianliebowitz.com/) as well as a former performer and professor. Follow us on social media and let us know your t...

2023-02-0838 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 16 Josh Holliday: Creative Instinct and Arts MarketingEp. 16 Josh Holliday: Creative Instinct and Arts Marketing Josh Holliday joins our host, Katie, to demystify Arts Marketing by giving real examples of how to create a marketing plan, how PR differs from marketing, and more. Our hosts talk about their favorite marketing campaigns, and revel in the masterclass that Josh Holliday presented in this short interview. Josh Holliday has a career in Arts Marketing, founded Fresh Coast Perspective (https://www.freshcoastperspective.com/), and is currently the Director of Communications at the Tennessee Performing Arts Center (https://www.tpac.org/). Follow us...

2023-02-0148 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 15 Ken Waldman: Alaska’s Fiddling Poet On this episode, Bryan sits down with Alaska’s Fiddling Poet, Ken Waldman. Bryan and Ken talk about Ken’s life on the road, his time as an educator, how he approaches his work including conferences, and even gives us a snippet of his work. Our hosts talk about trying to explain what it is they actually do, and explore the genuine approach that Ken takes to relationship building in the indusrty. Ken Waldman is a musician, author, poet, and founder of Nomadic Productions (https://kenwaldman.com/). Follow us on social media...

2023-01-2543 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 14 Larry Kosson: Give Each Other the TimeEp. 14 Larry Kosson: Give Each Other the Time Our hosts reflect on their first mentors and the impact they had. Josh found some time at International Entertainment Buyers Association (IEBA -https://www.ieba.org/) Conference to sit down with Larry Kosson. Larry shares his origin story, and talks about his true passion, mentorship. Larry was awarded the 2019 Mentorship Award from the Western Arts Alliance (WAA - https://www.westarts.org/) . Larry Kosson is the Founder and President of Kosson Talent (https://kossontalent.com/) Follow us on social media and let us know your tho...

2023-01-1855 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 13 Krista Bradley: Discomfort Breeds GrowthEp. 13 Krista Bradley: Discomfort Breeds Growth We kick off this week with stories from past APAP (Association of Performing Arts Professionals) Conference before Katie dives into a conversation with Krista Bradley. Krista shares the journey that landed her at APAP, why cultural humility is important, and why you should listen to your impulses. Krista Bradley is the Director, Programs and Resources at APAP (https://apap365.org/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

2023-01-1156 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 12 Pat Hazell: Capturing Creativity: Seinfeld to Wonder BreadEp. 12 Pat Hazell: Capturing Creativity: Seinfeld to Wonder Bread Our hosts talk about tech riders, before an engaging conversation with this week's incredible guest, Pat Hazell. Pat shares his insights on storytelling, “renting seats,” contracts, and shares his journey and only begins touching on his career. Pat Hazell is a writer, producer, director, podcaster, comedian, and more. He is the founder and Chief Creative Officer of Sweetwood Creative (http://sweetwoodiscreative.com/) and the host of the Creativity in Captivity Podcast (https://www.creativityincaptivity.fun/) Follow us on social media and let us kno...

2023-01-0455 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 11 It’s a Holiday Party!Ep. 11 It’s a Holiday Party! Our hosts take a week off from interviewing to have a little holiday fun. Katie’s son, Leo, makes an appearance to spread some holiday cheer, we all play some games, and we share what we plan to work on in the new year. Want to give us a present this year? Thank you to all of you who gave us a listen in 2022 and helped get this podcast off the ground. Leave us a review! Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and...

2022-12-2822 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 10 Jennifer Morris & Laurel Canan: Becoming Tour ReadyEp. 10 Jennifer Morris & Laurel Canan: Becoming Tour Ready Jennifer Morris and Laurel Canan didn’t start out in the arts, like most they discovered their path along the way. Bryan and Josh sit down with them to talk about artist management, being tour ready, and what led them to the industry they love. Our host chime in with their translatable skills from their jobs before the arts, and on the importance of good marketing materials. Jennifer Morris and Laurel Canan are with Seigel Artist Management (https://www.siegelartist.com/) and are both active in the fi...

2022-12-2142 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 9 Xavier Verna: Discovering Shared ValuesEp. 9 Xavier Verna: Discovering Shared Values This week our hosts talk about their love of historic venues and Katie sits down with Xavier Verna. Xavier and Katie talk about managing historic theatres, working in small communities, how to make purposeful partnerships, and the important role that EDI plays in managing an arts organization. Xavier Verna is the Executive Director of the Ramsdell Regional Center for the Arts (https://ramsdelltheatre.org/) in Manistee, Michigan. Links to resources mentioned: https://apap365.org/ https://www.sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/ https://www.ame...

2022-12-1455 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 8 David Wannen: Just Show UpEp. 8 David Wannen: Just Show Up Our hosts talk about getting over nerves, imposter syndrome, and the importance of being tightly routed. Our guest, David Wannen, shares how he got over his nerves, how his organization builds a route, and some practical approaches to conferences, including the importance of “the hang”. David Wannen is the Executive Director and a performer with the New York Gilbert & Sullivan Players (https://nygasp.org/). David is also a past president of NAPAMA and an avid arts advocate. Follow us on social media and let us know your...

2022-12-0740 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 7 Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your IntuitionEp. 7 Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition On this episode, Katie sits down with Sarah McCarthy to talk about theatre for young audiences, new projects, and juggling life with a full workload. Our hosts reminisce about their questionable music choices as young children and acknowledge that you can love your job and still need time for yourself. Sarah McCarthy is the Agency Owner and Creative Producer at Dandelion Artists (https://www.dandelionartists.com/) representing the best in family music with artists like The Okee Dokee Brothers, Jazzy Ash, Justin Roberts, and more. Follow us on...

2022-11-3045 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 6 Tim Shapiro: Technically Speaking, The Future is BrightEp. 6 Tim Shapiro: Technically Speaking, The Future is Bright… The hosts talk about moments of heightened security, and give a lot of love to our industry’s backstage crew. Bryan has a conversation with his colleague, Tim Shapiro, about life on the road, how to get started in technical theatre, and shares some stories about working on the 9/11 10-year Anniversary Ceremony (Here is the video he references: https://youtu.be/yZGzdT4EKYY) Tim Shapiro is the Production Coordinator for KU Presents (https://www.kupresents.com/)at Kutztown University. Tim has had an incredible career touring the world working with artists like...

2022-11-2345 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 5 Max Darwin: Magic and Mental HealthEp. 5 Max Darwin: Magic and Mental Health We talk about our origin stories on this episode, and Katie has a heartfelt conversation with our friend, Max Darwin, about creating a magic show, hard work, empathy, and mental health. Max Darwin is an actor, public speaker, and magician who might be best known by his stage persona, The Amazing Max (http://theamazingmaxlive.com/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

2022-11-1650 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 4 Tommy Hensel: Be Kind to YourselfEp. 4 Tommy Hensel: Be Kind to Yourself Everyone is busy! We learn a little more about what our hosts do outside of their day jobs. Check out #marionmurals on Instagram and visit https://www.pocahontasproject.org/. Kevin chats with Tommy Hensel about a new booking conference, Midwest Arts Xpo (MAX), challenges facing the industry, selfcare and more. Tommy Hensel is the Senior Director of Performing Arts at Elgin Community College (https://eccartscenter.org/) and Board President of Heartland Performing Arts the group behind the upcoming MAX (https://midwestartsxpo.org/). Follow us on...

2022-11-0936 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 3 Lisa B. Lewis: Bridging the Gap in AccessibilityEp. 3 Lisa B. Lewis: Bridging the Gap in Accessibility Our hosts learn all about the circus on today’s episode when Bryan talks with Lisa B. Lewis. Lisa is a longtime circus performer and advocate for accessibility in the arts. While the episode focuses on accessibility in the circus arts, Lisa gives examples and tactics that can be used in all forms of performing and touring arts. Lisa B. Lewis is the Founder and Executive Director of Omnium Circus (https://omniumcircus.org/), and Agent at Harmony Artists (https://www.harmonyartists.com/). Foll...

2022-11-0236 min

There’s No Business Like...Ep. 2 Mister MOJO: Be Open and Unafraid On this episode our hosts talk superpowers and Josh and Kevin sit down with Mister MOJO and talk about lessons learned and mentoring. Learn how two interactions with famous people shaped his view on working in the industry. Mister MOJO is the founder and front man for MOJO and the Bayou Gypsies (https://redhotmojo.com/) with a lifetime of experience engaging audiences and getting them on their feet. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

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