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Find Your Center, Find Your FeetA conversation with author Nancy Fitzgerald: Brigid’s MantleA conversation with author Nancy Fitzgerald about her book: Brigid’s Mantle: Finding the Fiery Saint of Kildare at the Heart of Celtic Christianity (2025).
Nancy is an award winning journalist specializing in health, wellness, and spirituality. Her work has appeared in publications including Parents, The New York Times, national Geographic, Prevention, Guidepost, and Commenweal. Nancy's book was recently reviewed by Spiritual Directors International in their PRESENCE magazine. She serves on the board of directors of the Women’s Ordination Conference, where she is co-editor of New Women, New Church. A graduate of Lancaster Theological Seminary, she lives in PA.
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2025-12-0142 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetLectio Divina with Ladinsky PoemsJoin us for Lectio Divina with readings from Love Poems from God by Daniel Ladinsky. A collection of poems by twelve “timeless spiritual writers” from both the East and the West. They include Christian writers such as St. Catherine of Siena, St. Francis of Assisi, St. Teresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross as well as writers of other faith traditions. This mediation also includes a loving eyes reading from How to Train a Wild Elephant by Jan Chozen Bays, MD—physician and Zen teacher—who has developed a series of simple practices to help us cultivate mindfulness as we go...
2025-11-1720 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Conversation with Dr. Catherine Williams--Preaching and MusicA conversation with Dr. Catherine Williams, highlighting her new book: Preaching and Music: Powerful Partners in Proclamation.
Dr. Williams joined the faculty at Lancaster Theological Seminary in 2017, now housed in The School of Theology (which includes both Moravian and Lancaster Seminaries), after serving both the academy and the church. Her Princeton Theological Seminary PhD dissertation was on developing a distinctive, post-colonial homiletic rooted in the music of calypso for her birth place, the twin-island republic of Trinidad and Tobago. A graduate of Westminster Choir College of Rider University, she is also an accomplished musician who has taught p...
2025-11-0141 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Guided Imaginative Mediation with BirdsImagine that you are outside walking and you notice a bird soaring high above you. You focus on its wings and the way it holds itself up in the air, gently gliding. Join us for this guided presence practice using birds as a metaphor.
Imaginative meditation inspired by NCHPAD. Poetry by Jennifer Hoffman and Mary Oliver.
For more information about Moravian Theological Seminary's Spiritual Direction Program: https://www.moravianseminary.edu/academics/certificate/spiritual-direction
Music by Robert Long: robertjohnlong@gmail.com
2025-10-1517 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Conversation with Dr. Cindy Lee, author of Contemplative Witnessing: BIPOC-Centered Spiritual DirectionAn interview of Dr. Cindy Lee author of Contemplative Witnessing: BIPOC-Centered Spiritual Direction. Rev. Mia White joins the interview, as a graduate of our MTS Spiritual Direction Program, and as a member of the BIPOC community.
As a Taiwanese American, Dr. Cindy Lee has a PhD in Practical Theology in Spiritual Formation from Claremont School of Theology and a DMin in Transformational Leadership from Bakke Graduate University. Cindy Lived in Beijing and Taipei for 6 years, and currently resides in LA, while serving on the SDI Board.
In Contemplative Witnessing, Lee explores how BIPOC people can e...
2025-09-2950 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Whole Body Relaxation Mediation for FallJoin Pam Robertson for a whole body relaxation mediation for fall. I am Listening poem by Macrina Wiederkehr and Joyce Rupp from Circle of Life: The Heart's Journey Through the Seasons. What Makes a Fire Burn poem by Judy Brown, from The Sea Accepts All Rivers.
For more information about Moravian Theological Seminary's Spiritual Direction Program: https://www.moravianseminary.edu/academics/certificate/spiritual-direction
Music by Robert Long: robertjohnlong@gmail.com
2025-09-1525 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetRosemerry Wahtola Trommer, Poet, Teacher and SpeakerA conversation with Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer, poet, teacher, speaker. She is a writing facilitator who co-hosts Emerging Form, a podcast on creative process, which is also on substack. Her daily audio series, The Poetic Path, is on the Ritual app. Her poems have appeared on A Prairie Home Companion, PBS News Hour, O Magazine, American Life in Poetry, and Carnegie Hall stage. Her recent collections are All the Honey and The Unfolding. In 2024, she became poet laureate for Evermore, helping others explore grief and love through poetry. Since 2006, she’s written a poem a day, sharing them for FREE on her daily b...
2025-09-0148 minFind Your Center, Find Your Feet50 Thin Days of Easter with Cynthia Bourgeault50 Thin Days of Easter with Cynthia Bourgeault, a modern-day mystic, Episcopal priest, writer, and internationally known retreat leader, teaching and spreading the recovery of the Christian contemplative and Wisdom paths. In this podcast Cynthia offers another teaching on the 50 Thin Days of Easter, the Easter-tide days between Easter and Pentecost, particularly focusing on the final 10 days between Ascension and Pentecost. Cynthia invites us to honor this Ascension Season of Holy Hush and to listen deeply within, almost tuning into nothing but the subtle and let the world with all its predictable dramas go for a while, and pay attention t...
2025-05-2534 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetAn Interview with Christine Valters PaintnerChristine Valters Paintner is the Abbess at the Abbey of the Arts (www.abbeyofthearts.com), an online global monastery without walls, offering retreats, classes, books, and resources to nurture contemplative practice and creative expression. A writer, artist, spiritual director, retreat facilitator, and teacher, she earned her PhD in Christian Spirituality from the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley and her professional status as Registered Expressive Arts Consultant and Educator (REACE) from the International Expressive Arts Therapy Association.
For more information about Moravian Theological Seminary's Spiritual Direction Program: https://www.moravianseminary.edu/academics/certificate/spiritual-direction
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2025-05-1641 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Conversation with Jennika Eckhaus, University ChaplainJennika Eckhaus, Moravian University Chaplain, is an ordained presbyter in the Moravian Church. She is a 1998 graduate of Moravian University and a 2001 graduate of Moravian Theological Seminary. She also graduated with her Certificate in Spiritual Direction from Moravian in 2020 and on May 3rd she will graduate with her Doctor of Ministry Degree, also from Moravian. As Chaplain, Jennika works to build communities of belonging on the University campus, offering prayer and worship opportunities as well as pastoral counseling for students, faculty, and staff. This summer she will be transitioning to become the Dean for Spirituality and Inclusion and Director...
2025-05-0128 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Guided Meditation to Easter Your Spirit!Join us for a guided meditation to easter your spirit! A lectio divina with Macrina Weiderkehr's poem, Listening to Spring and a daily Examen of the last twenty four hours of your life.
For more information about Moravian Theological Seminary's Spiritual Direction Program: https://www.moravianseminary.edu/academics/certificate/spiritual-direction
Music by Robert Long: robertjohnlong@gmail.com
2025-04-1624 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Guided Grounding MeditationFind a quiet place and join us for a guided grounding meditation! Inspired and adapted readings from Valerie Kaur, Sherry Zak Morris and Jack Kornfield. Blessing of Angels by John O'Donohue and Change Is In The Air by Melody Beattie.
For more information about Moravian Theological Seminary's Spiritual Direction Program: https://www.moravianseminary.edu/academics/certificate/spiritual-direction
Music by Robert Long: robertjohnlong@gmail.com
2025-04-0121 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetCynthia Bourgeault: Author of many books including The Wisdom Jesus and Wisdom Way of KnowingCynthia Bourgeault is a modern-day mystic, Episcopal priest, writer, and internationally known retreat leader. She divides her time between solitude and sailing the waters around her seaside hermitage in Maine and traveling globally to teach and spread the recovery of the Christian contemplative and Wisdom paths. In this podcast Cynthia offers a teaching on the 50 Thin Days of Easter, the Easter-tide days between Easter and Pentecost, when Jesus is offering his final teaching and transmissions by way of a series of miraculous visitations. Cynthia invites us too to tune into this sacred season for our own ongoing transformation. To l...
2025-03-2331 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetNancy Bieber: Author of Decision Making and Spiritual Discernment: the Sacred Art of Finding Your WayNancy Bieber is Author of Decision Making and Spiritual Discernment: the Sacred Art of Finding Your Way. Nancy rooted in her Quaker tradition, is a spiritual director and psychologist, a writer and teacher. She has taught at the School of the Spirit (Quaker), Oasis Ministries (ecumenical), and Lancaster Theological Seminary. She has frequently led retreats and workshops for groups around the country. Nancy has written 3 books: Decision Making and Spiritual Discernment: The Sacred Art of Finding our Way; Fianna’s Story: A True Story of Love, Grief and Faith (the story of her grandparents); and the book Those Who Came Be...
2025-03-1539 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetDr Libby Osgood: Author of Green Saints for a Green GenerationDr. Libby Osgood is an Associate Professor in Sustainable Design Engineering at the University of Prince Edward Island in Canada and a religious sister of the Congregation of Notre Dame de Montreal. She is an aerospace engineer who worked on two NASA satellites as a systems engineer with Orbital Sciences. She holds a PhD in Mechanical Engineering from Dalhousie University and is a member of the 2024 3M National Teaching Fellowship and International Federation of National Teaching Fellows. She researches faith & science, humanitarian engineering, and engineering design teaching practices. Libby published two theological books: a "Book of Hours" which collected...
2025-03-0138 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetDr. Lerita Coleman Brown, What Makes You Come Alive: A Spiritual Walk with Howard ThurmanJoin Marcella for a conversation with Dr. Lerita Coleman Brown, an embodied spirit, author, speaker, heart (1995) and kidney (2005) transplant recipient, former psychology professor who considers each day to be a walk of gratitude, trust, and hope. A graduate of the Shalem Institute for Spiritual Formation, she serves as a spiritual director/companion, retreat leader and encourages the pursuit of a spiritual life. Dr. Brown is author of the book: What Makes You Come Alive: A Spiritual Walk with Howard Thurman (2023). In this book Brown beckons readers into their own apprenticeship with Thurman and walks with us through Thurman’s inimit...
2025-02-1743 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Lifestyle of Sharing God’s Goodness with Rev. Dr. Glen StoudtRev. Dr. Glen Stoudt shares what it means to live “a lifestyle of sharing God’s goodness." Retired from congregational ministry with the United Church of Canada, the Rev. Dr. Glen Stoudt serves as a spiritual director in his ongoing ministry in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. On this podcast episode he shares with Pam what it means to live “a lifestyle of sharing God’s goodness."
Glen taught in the MDiv program for many years at Moravian Theological Seminary and is a graduate of the MTS Spiritual Direction Training Program.
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2025-02-0350 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Roadmap to Another New Year Meditation
Join Pam for a guided meditation as we reflect on 2024 and write goals for the New Year, 2025. What could you use more of in your life? What could you use less of in your life? What is your word for 2025? There is a blank canvas on the road before you, follow along and write your goals and intentions as a spiritual practice.
For more information about Moravian Theological Seminary's Spiritual Direction Program: https://www.moravianseminary.edu/academics/certificate/spiritual-direction
Music by Robert Long: robertjohnlong@gmail.com
2025-01-1520 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA conversation with Jessica Morris, Author of Higher Powered: One Woman's Journey of Personal EschatologyThis conversation with Jessica Morris is honest, raw, real and beautiful. Jessica shares both the 'good and the challenging' of being raised in a family 'influenced by the disease of alcoholism' with a pastor father. Higher Powered: One Woman's Journey of Personal Eschatology is an autobiographical book, a light for any who are hungry...particularly for anyone in recovery..and all others. Jessica is a 2020 graduate of Moravian Seminary's Spiritual Direction Graduate Certificate Program, and the Master's of Arts in Theological Studies.
Book: Higher Powered: One Woman's Journey of Personal Eschatology
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2025-01-011h 04Find Your Center, Find Your FeetConscious Practices for Advent with Pam and MarcellaPam and Wisdom teacher Marcella Kraybill-Greggo discuss four conscious Spiritual Practices for Advent. One invitation this season is to "catch" yourself and see how many times you notice crossing a threshold and allow yourself to sink through the level of initial chatter of your mind and discover the rhythm of the work you are doing. This podcast offers ways we can remember or recollect ourselves while baking, wrapping and celebrating in the weeks ahead. Always coming back to our breath and finding our feet. Marcella directs the Spiritual Direction Training program at Moravian Seminary.
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2024-12-1633 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetGuided Advent Meditation, Focusing on Hope, Peace, Love & JoyJoin Pam Robertson for a guided Advent meditation focusing on these themes each week: hope, peace, love and joy! Listen along to a Christmas story about being present followed by suggestions from author Joyce Rupp on how to cultivate more presence for yourself this holiday season. Finally a list of where to find the Christmas story in the Bible.
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Opening: Matthew West that invites readers to return to God during the Christmas season in his book, Come Home for Christmas.
Where is the Christmas story in the Bible?
Prophecy-Isaiah 9 notably v. 6-7
2024-12-0221 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetCathy Hardy, Author of Walk With Me:Transformation through the Pathway of Spiritual DirectionJoin us for a conversation with Cathy AJ Hardy a spiritual director, retreat facilitator, and founder of Soul Care ®, offering courses in spiritual formation and direction. A facilitator of soul work for the past two decades, Cathy is also the author of four books: Love Breathes with Me (2018), Walk With Me (2020), and Love Breathes With Me II (2022), and Pause; A Year of Soulful Meditation (2023).
In addition to her passion for guiding others in their spiritual growth, Cathy is also a poet and award-winning singer-songwriter, her most recent album being released this year is called Here I A...
2024-11-1639 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Guided Meditation with Anne Sussman from the Mindfulness Meeting PlaceWhen spiritual director Anne Sussman started to meditate every day, the trajectory of her life changed! She started to sleep through the night; was far less anxious. She started to hear that small voice in her heart that said, “quit your job, because you’re miserable,” louder than she heard the chatter that said, “what are you crazy? You can’t quit your job!” The more she meditated, the clearer it became to become a certified meditation instructor, learning the trademarked method of SEED - Simple Easy Every Day meditation. She then went on to become a Mindfulness@Work trainer, so...
2024-11-0137 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetDr. Cindy S. Lee Interview Author of Our Un-forming: De-Westernizing Spiritual FormationWelcome to our guest Dr. Cindy S. Lee who serves on the Board of Spiritual Director's International (SDI). Dr. Lee has a PhD in Practical Theology from Claremont School of Theology focused on Spiritual Formation and a DMin in Transformational Leadership from Bakke Graduate University. In her book, Our Unforming: De-Westernizing Spiritual Formation, Taiwanese-American Dr. Cindy Lee invites us to unform our Western dominated understandings and instead reflect on cultural orientations of turning from linear to cyclical, from cerebral to experiential, and from individual to collective, and additionally engaging contextual lenses or postures such as imagination, language, elders, and...
2024-10-1534 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetMark E Thibodeaux Author of The Armchair Mystic and Ignatian DiscernmentA conversation with Father Mark E. Thibodeaux, SJ. Author of six books on prayer and spirituality including the Armchair Mystic and Ignatian Discernment of the Spirits for Spiritual Direction and Pastoral Care. Father Mark is an acknowledged expert on prayer and discernment. For ten years, he served as the director for Jesuits in formation, and he is currently the pastor of Holy Name of Jesus Parish in New Orleans, Louisiana.
For more information about Moravian Theological Seminary's Spiritual Direction Program: https://www.moravianseminary.edu/academics/certificate/spiritual-direction
Music by Robert Long: robertjohnlong@gmail.com
2024-10-0158 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetSpiritual Awareness Practices for Advent with Pam and MarcellaYou are invited to experience this new season by participating in spiritual awareness practices! Please join host, Pam Robertson and Wisdom Teacher, Marcella Kraybill-Greggo!
These practices invite you to become more awake and aware of the ordinary moments of your everyday life.
Join us for 4 conscious prayers: The Body Prayer, Full Prostration, Listening to Your Life, and Contemplating Your Child or Loved One.
The invitation is to sit quietly and allow this conscious work to enter into your everyday life.
1. BODY PRAYER PRACTICE:
Notice what happens in you as you do th...
2024-06-0433 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetThe Enneagram A Resource for Deepening Personal GrowthJoin host Pam Robertson for a conversation about the Enneagram with teacher, Jeanine Siler-Jones. The enneagram can be a resource for deepening personal and spiritual growth. We are all born with a particular style. Enneagram teacher Jeanine Siler Jones helps us explore the value of this tool and how it can help cultivate compassion for ourselves and others. She touches on the 9 types as an introduction to this practice of self-discovery. These types are broken into triads- the centers of intelligence—head, heart and body. Our conversation highlights why we do what we do, what is the motivation and ho...
2024-06-041h 20Find Your Center, Find Your FeetHeart Rhythm Meditation with Maureen DeBellisJoin us for a heart rhythm meditation with Maureen DeBellis! Learn about Heart Rhythm Meditation it’s effects on overall well-being; including, an expanded sense of self! Maureen is a spiritual director, inter-spiritual companion, a teacher of Heart Rhythm Meditation (HRM) and a retreat guide for the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius. She has a BA in Marriage and Family Studies from DeSales University and is a Graduate of the Spiritual Direction program at Moravian Theological Seminary.
She has a private practice of individual and group spiritual direction. She serves as a meditation teacher, mentor and coach in t...
2024-05-1445 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Guided 'Yes' Meditation with Lori Christine YoungJoin us for a guided YES mediation with Lori Christine Young and host Pam Robertson. Lori is an Integrative Somatic Coach which includes her work as a Somatic Spiritual Director who is trained in and informed by Holistic Spirituality and Contemplative Spiritual Direction, Somatic Experiencing (Somatic Experiencing Practitioner™️), Plyvagal Theory (Deb Dana’s Rhythm of Regulation™️) and other trauma & nervous system perspectives. Lori is Adjunct Faculty at Moravian Seminary teaching and supervising students in the Spiritual Direction Program.
Connect with Lori: https://lorichristineyoung.com/
For more information about Moravian Theological Seminary's Spiritual Direction Program: https://www.moravia...
2024-04-2824 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetHeather Ruce is Helping us Find Our CenterWisdom Spiritual Director, Heather Ruce joins us talk about finding our center. Heather says, what she has discovered in doing this Wisdom work is that it calls for a different level of being in the world requiring her to do what it takes to regulate the nervous system so that she's not operating reactively. Bonus: Heather leads a ten minute meditation during our conversation! Heather is a graduate of our MTS Wisdom Infused Spiritual Direction Training Program!
For more information about Moravian Theological Seminary's Spiritual Direction Program: https://www.moravianseminary.edu/academics/certificate/spiritual-direction
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2024-04-1548 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetBelonging and Belief with Rev. Dr. Sue Pizor YoderJoin us for a conversation with Rev. Dr. Sue Pizor Yoder who leads Blank Slate, an emerging spiritual community in the Lehigh Valley, PA. Sue co-authored the book "Hear Us Out: Six Questions on Belonging and Belief" where they interviewed over 200 people under 40 in search of the lessons they might teach us about belonging, adversity, legacy - and faith. Sue explains the idea of "nones" — people who have no religious affiliation and "dones" people who once practiced religion but no longer do. Sue and her colleagues were surprised to find their conversation partners also wanted to talk about faith--even wh...
2024-03-1453 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetRussell Siler-Jones, Author of Spirit in Session: Working with Your Clients Spirituality (and Your Own)Join hosts Pam and Marcella with author Russell Siler Jones for a conversation about his new book, Spirit in Session: Working with Your Client’s Spirituality (and Your Own) in Psychotherapy. Russell is a therapist in Asheville, NC. In this immensely practical book, Russell helps therapists, spiritual directors or anyone in the "helping" industry feel more competent and confident about having spiritual conversations with clients. With a refreshing, down-to-earth style, he describes how to recognize the diverse explicit and implicit ways spirituality can appear in psychotherapy, how to assess the impact spirituality is having on clients, how to make in...
2024-02-2845 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetConscious Relationships with Heather RuceHeather Ruce joins us to talk about having "Conscious Relationships" with the people in our lives. She says being conscious is a spiritual practice that we must tend to with intentionality, attention and awareness. Heather works with individuals in Wisdom Spiritual Direction and facilitates wisdom practice circles, groups, retreats, and wisdom schools. She offers teaching and guidance in various wisdom and mindfulness practices including Centering Prayer, Christian meditation, sacred chanting, lectio divina, conscious work and embodiment. She has a M.A. Marital and Family Therapy from Bethel University and is a graduate of our MTS Graduate Spiritual Direction training...
2024-02-1251 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetFinding Your Center with Joyce RuppJoyce Rupp bestselling and award-winning author and retreat leader joins Pam for a conversation about her newest book, Jesus, Guide of My Life offers reflections for the Lenten Journey. The Lenten season is framed as a spiritual journey that prepares us to celebrate Easter and new life. Joyce invites us to set aside a few minutes each day to read a verse of scripture and prayer response. Then sitting quietly, allow the Spirit’s wisdom to speak to you and, if you choose, write a brief prayer reflection yourself.
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2024-01-3145 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetGuided Presence Practices with Jeanine Siler-JonesJoin us for two Guided Meditations with host Pam Robertson and guest Jeanine Siler-Jones. Jeanine is a spiritually integrated psychotherapist and spiritual director in private practice, an Enneagram teacher, retreat leader and chair of the board of Wisdom Waypoints. She holds a Masters degree in Social Work and a Certificate in Theology from Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Jeanine is a graduate of our MTS SD training program! She is a Spiritual Director-Supervisor and teacher in the Spiritual Direction Program.
Welcoming Practice from Cynthia Bourgeault's book, Centering Prayer And Inner Awakening. Jeanine says, “welcoming cultivates an inner hospitality in th...
2024-01-1447 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetThe History of Spiritual Direction with Paul BurgmayerPaul Burgmayer has been working on a comprehensive history of spiritual direction and supervision and will share some his findings with us. Paul has also been accompanying others in spiritual direction for fourteen years. A former industrial chemical researcher and now retired high school teacher, Paul has a master’s degree in Holistic Spirituality and a certificate in spiritual direction from Chestnut Hill College, certificates in supervision of spiritual direction from Together in the Mystery and Mercy Center, Burlingame, and is trained to (and has a special love for) accompanying others in the Ignatian Spiritual Exercises. Paul lives in Wa...
2024-01-0146 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetDr. Susan Phillips-Author of Candlelight: Illuminating the Art of Spiritual DirectionA conversation with Dr. Susan S. Phillips, a spiritual director and sociologist, a member of the Core Doctoral Faculty of the Graduate Theological Union, and for many years was the Executive Director of New College Berkeley where she continues to direct the spiritual formation ministries. She has written two books which consider the art of spiritual direction and the journey of spiritual formation: Candlelight: Illuminating the Art of Spiritual Direction and The Cultivated Life: From Ceaseless Striving to Receiving Joy
“What distinguishes this listening profession from many other listening practices is its explicit acknowledgment of God. [Spiritual dire...
2023-11-1649 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetSpiritual Direction Program Directors at Moravian Theological Seminary, Marcella Kraybill-Greggo & Barb MartellJoin host Pam Rotelle Robertson with co-founders of the Graduate Certificate Program in Spiritual Direction at Moravian Theological Seminary, Marcella Kraybill-Greggo and Barb Martell, as they share their journey of following God in birthing this Program. Contact us: https://www.moravianseminary.edu/academics/certificate/spiritual-direction
Music by Robert Long robertjohnlong@gmail.com
2023-10-2544 minFind Your Center, Find Your FeetA Conversation MTS Spiritual Direction Supervisors Pat and RitaJoin Hosts Pam and Marcella as they have a conversation with MTS Spiritual Director Supervisors, Pat Herbst and Rita Pursel who we fondly call our Amma's. Listen as they share their journey as Spiritual Directors and the wisdom they learned along the way. Connect with us: https://www.moravianseminary.edu/academics/certificate/spiritual-direction
Music by Robert Long: robertjohnlong@gmail.com
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