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UI Breakfast: UI/UX Design and Product StrategyBDTP. Marketing for All-in-one Platforms with Geoff RobertsToday we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Geoff Roberts, co-founder of Outseta. You'll learn about their special approach to SEO, why you should sometimes prioritize resonance over reach, the importance of narrowing down on your audience, and more.Please head over to the episode page for the detailed recap and key takeaways.Show notesOutseta — Geoff’s productBasecamp, HubSpot — popular all-in-one productsFollow Geoff on Twitter and LinkedInThanks for listening! If you found the episode useful, please spread the word about this new show on Twi...2023-09-2241 min
Software SocialWhat 2023 Brings for Colleen, Michele, and This ShowColleen and Michele talk about their hopes and plans for 2023, and make an announcement about this show.Huge thanks to all of our listeners who became Software Socialites and supported our show! We genuinely appreciate your enthusiasm and support.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Hovercode and Rocket GemsJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter...2023-01-0336 minSoftware SocialThe Forcing Function Episode: Launch Christian Genco's New SaaSMichele talked to Christian Genco on December 1 about what he needed to do to launch his new SaaS, TheVideoClipper, with a deadline of having it done before this episode was released. So... did he do it? Follow Christian! https://twitter.com/cgencoCheck out TheVideoClipper: https://thevideoclipper.com/Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of...2022-12-2738 minSoftware SocialReflecting on 2022Michele and Colleen reflect on the year. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show 2022-12-2035 minSoftware SocialCulture + Feedback = ???Michele shares her takeaways from the book The Culture Map and what it might mean for getting product feedback and building products across countries. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Hovercode and R...2022-12-1330 minSoftware SocialTinySeed, TinyConfColleen recaps her learnings from her first TinySeed meetup/MicroConf: Local Austin. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supportersChris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Hovercode and Rocket GemsJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ri...2022-12-0626 minSoftware SocialListing on MicroAcquireColleen is ready to go all-in on Refine... and that means moving on from Simple File Upload. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters New supporters!Lynn Romich from Konbini Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Hover...2022-11-2928 minSoftware SocialThe Hammerstone Podcast is backColleen and her business partner Aaron give an update on Hammerstone (Refine) in this crossover episode.Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supportersLynn Romich from KonbiniChris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Hovercode and Rocket GemsJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Ha...2022-11-2228 minSoftware SocialQualitative and Quantitative DataTalking to other entrepreneurs made Michele realize that she hasn't talked about interplay of qualitative *and* qualitative data enough. Michele and Colleen talk about what that means in the context of feature requests and high-touch sales.Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters New supporters!Brendon from FeederloopPascal from sharpen.pageLynn Romich from Konbini Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a ni...2022-11-1534 minSoftware SocialTinySeed!Colleen's company was accepted to TinySeed, which means she now gets to work on Refine full time. That means she can finally make some hard decisions and push. (Note: Colleen and Michele were actually in the same place last week, so that's why the audio quality is different than normal!)Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Special thanks to our new supporters! Brendon from FeederloopPascal from sharpen.pageChris from Chipper CIThe Dari...2022-11-0832 minSoftware SocialGetting Into Public Speaking as a DeveloperMichele chats with indie developer Benedicte Raae about getting into public speaking through streaming. Follow Benedicte on Twitter! https://twitter.com/raaeBenedicte's website: https://queen.raae.codes/StreamYard: https://streamyard.com/A couple friends of this pod have launched their own shows for entrepreneurs lately! Check them out:Ship SaaS Faster (Simon Bennett + Volkan Kaya): https://shipsaasfaster.com/Marketing Retro (Adrienne Barnes + Josh Ho): https://marketingretro.substack.com/The Weekly Build (Marie Ng + Jesse Anderson): https://www.theweeklybuild.com/This Indie Life (James M...2022-11-0140 minSoftware SocialSick Leave for Indie Founders?Should indie founders take sick leave? Michele and Colleen discuss.A couple friends of this pod have launched their own shows for entrepreneurs lately! Check them out:Ship SaaS Faster (Simon Bennett + Volkan Kaya): https://shipsaasfaster.com/Marketing Retro (Adrienne Barnes + Josh Ho): https://marketingretro.substack.com/The Weekly Build (Marie Ng + Jesse Anderson): https://www.theweeklybuild.com/This Indie Life (James McKinven + Dagobert Renouf): https://indielife.fm/The Non-Tech Founders Podcast (Laura Elizabeth and Nathan Powell): https://nontechfounders.transistor.fm/Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve be...2022-10-2529 minSoftware SocialCompetitive Advantage and Moats for Small SaaSes, Part 2Michele continues her chat with Summit founder Matt Wensing about ways indie SaaS founders can think about moats and competitive advantages. This episode: cost advantages, size advantages (big and small), and false moats.Recommended reading on competitive advantages: The Little Book That Builds Wealth A couple friends of this pod have launched their own shows for entrepreneurs lately! Check them out:Ship SaaS Faster (Simon Bennett + Volkan Kaya): https://shipsaasfaster.com/Marketing Retro (Adrienne Barnes + Josh Ho): https://marketingretro.substack.com/The Weekly Build (Marie Ng + Jesse Anderson): https://www.theweeklybuild.com/2022-10-1834 minSoftware SocialTalking Competitive Advantage and Moats for Small SaaSes, Part 1Michele chats with Summit founder Matt Wensing about intangible assets, switching costs, and network effects, and how they apply to indie software companies. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Hovercode and Rocket Gem...2022-10-1154 minSoftware SocialRefine Update with Aaron and ColleenAaron Francis, Colleen's co-founder, swings by to chat about Refine. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crow...2022-10-0435 minSoftware SocialSuper Pumped (aka The Saturday Edition)Four things Colleen is super pumped about... and one thing she's not. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of C...2022-09-2738 minSoftware SocialSprinting a MarathonColleen and Michele both have a lot going on.Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Rit...2022-09-2052 minSoftware SocialHairy Projects and Heat WavesMichele's trying to figure out how to approach charging sales taxes, and Colleen finally pushes to prod.Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of...2022-09-1332 minSoftware SocialDistribution vs MarketingColleen's in go mode for Refine. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter of Room Stea...2022-09-0656 minSoftware SocialOne Weekly WinColleen shares the secret to her recent productivity.Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter of...2022-08-3045 minSoftware SocialThe One Where Colleen Goes to LA and Michele Looks at HaybalesShould indie entrepreneurs take advice from VC-track folks?Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter of...2022-08-2349 minSoftware SocialThat's the JobLearning new things, feeling like you're a bit out of your depth, pushing to the next level: that's the job of being an entrepreneur, and Colleen and Michele are both experiencing that in different ways.Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bri...2022-08-1637 minSoftware SocialWork vs Life vs Everything ElseMichele and Colleen catch up on Michele's conference talks... and try to figure out how to make her life work. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall Morg...2022-08-0944 minSoftware SocialColleen vs the CliffIt's finally August, and Colleen is coming up on the deadline for Refine to support her working full-time... or is it?Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from Use...2022-08-0230 minSoftware SocialStarting a Business - Even When Your Family Doesn't Want You ToFollow Lucie! https://twitter.com/LucieBaratteCheck out Logology: https://www.logology.co/See her husband Dagobert's memes: https://twitter.com/dagorenoufHuge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane an...2022-07-2636 minSoftware SocialVision and Empathy with Lucie Baratte of LogologyFollow Lucie! https://twitter.com/LucieBaratteCheck out Logology: https://www.logology.co/Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wa...2022-07-1941 minSoftware SocialWhat's Hammerstone? A Broadcast of the Hammerstone.dev Podcast with Colleen and AaronCheck out Hammerstone here!Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter of Room StealsAnna Maste of Subscribe Se...2022-07-1247 minSoftware SocialWhen Should You Let People Pay You?Follow Vic! https://twitter.com/VicVijayakumarEveryOak, Vic's preschool communications SaaS: https://www.everyoak.com/Try out HeyTexting: https://www.heytexting.com/Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsTeam TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane an...2022-06-2840 minSoftware SocialQ&A!Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsAaron from TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter of Room StealsAnna Maste of Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts from OutsetaJustin Jackson, Me...2022-06-2140 minSoftware SocialSales ModeCheck out The Art of Product Podcast and Default Alive. And of course, Colleen's favorite twitter thread by Nathan Barry. Also mentioned, Y Combinator CEO and Partner Michael Seibel on what makes the top 10% of founders different. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinAnd Mike from Gently Used Domains, who has a nice personalityDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan An...2022-06-1431 minSoftware Social101 Episodes!Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinMike from Gently Used DomainsDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsAaron from TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter of Room StealsAnna Maste of Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts from OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis from Fa...2022-06-0736 minSoftware SocialThe One Where the WiFi Goes OutHuge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinMike from Gently Used DomainsDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsAaron from TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter of Room StealsAnna Maste of Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts from OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis from Fa...2022-05-3123 minSoftware SocialBetting on Multiple Horses with Dan Rowden and James McKinvenFollow Dan! https://twitter.com/drSee all of Dan's businesses: https://danrowden.com/Follow James! https://twitter.com/jmckinvenSee all of James' businesses: https://jamesmckinven.com/Listen to No More Mondays: https://nomoremondays.fm/Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinMike from Gently Used DomainsDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to...2022-05-2438 minSoftware SocialThe Water Bowl of SorrowHuge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinMike from Gently Used DomainsDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsAaron from TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter of Room StealsAnna Maste of Subscribe SenseGeoff Roberts from OutsetaJustin Jackson, MegaMakerJack Ellis and Paul Jarvis from Fa...2022-05-1735 minSoftware SocialBe a Champion with Zuzana Kunckova, Founder of LarabellesFollow Zuzana on Twitter. Zuzana's website. Check out Larabelles. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinMike from Gently Used DomainsDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsAaron from TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter of Room StealsAnna Maste of Su...2022-05-1051 minSoftware SocialLaunching, Back to the Future StyleCheck out Colleen's new product, Refine: https://hammerstone.devHuge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You can become a supporter for $10 a month or $100 a year at softwaresocial.dev/supporters.Chris from Chipper CIThe Daringly Handsome Kevin GriffinMike from Gently Used DomainsDave from RecutMax of OnlineOrNotStefan from Talk to StefanBrendan Andrade of Bright BitsAaron from TupleAlex Hillman from The Tiny MBARamy from Memo.fmJane and Benedikt from UserlistKendall MorganRuben Gamez of SignWellCorey Haines of SwipeWellMike Wade of Crowd SentryNate Ritter of Room StealsAnna Maste of Subscribe Se...2022-05-0335 min