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Leaving HillsongGatorade + Gummie Bears part 2Laura and Tanya bisect and disect the Brand/Lentz podcast situation and continue the hilarity and horror that is predatory pastors and their mates patting each other on the back Come on now, you know you can't look away.. come chat! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2024-11-231h 27
Leaving HillsongGatorade + Gummie Bears Part 1Laura and Tanya dive face first into the narcissist face off between Carl Lentz and his mate of 3 seconds Russell Brand in the recent episode of Brand's podcast. It's a trainwreck of an offering and we're there to count the collateral damage. Or do the laughing and pointing that is so very needed at this point. We listen and react and go back for more. These boys are like rashes that keep coming back no matter how many trips you take to the clinic. At least you know...2024-11-181h 04
Leaving HillsongThe Normal Order of ThingsWhen the bodies are piling up,, the grown ups are rolling on the floor, or barking like dogs or crying hysterically and you're a 5 year old n church. WHERE CAN YOU RUN?How are you going to get your baby sister and brother out of there? Why won't dad do ANYTHING?Laura Hamilton was 5 when she had to plot her family's escape from a scary, scary place They got out... but it wasn't the end... Join me, Tanya and Laura to read and then explain her story about...2024-09-291h 06
Doing Divorce Right By Chief PeaceKeeper™ Scott LevinFinancial Clarity in Divorce with Expertise from Tanya AureEver wondered how to ensure your financial future is secure during a divorce? Join us for an enlightening conversation with Scott Levin, a family law attorney specializing in divorce mediation, and Tanya Aure, a San Diego Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA) from Southern California. Scott and Tanya unpack the critical role a CDFA plays in navigating the financial complexities of divorce, from separating community property to managing intricate assets like RSUs, pensions, and rental properties. Tanya sheds light on how a CDFA can provide clarity and informed decision-making, making it crucial for those not well-versed in finances to seek...2024-09-2506 min
Leaving HillsongJust a Wacko - Misogyny at Hillsong et al part 1Laura is a Leaving Hillsong pod guest, educator, artist, creator and some time film maker... you've met her before...today we start mammoth task of facing misogyny in the halls of Hillsong and well, right down to the altar call... Laura and Tanya discuss the narcissistic template for pentecostal boys and girls and how maleness is privileged, esteemed and honoured, while femaleness is subservient and ever diminished and minimised. It happened to Laura.. while researching for her latest project, she quickly became the object of obsession for one of the pentecostal peacocks.. a writer, a decent...2024-04-2857 min
Leaving HillsongProsper Pt 2 It's A LotTanya and PCD continue on with their dissection of the show 'Prosper', particularly, well only, episode 1..in this short, sharp, episode.. what will happen next in this Australian drama within an Australian drama is anyone's guessCome watch and chat! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2024-04-2121 min
Leaving HillsongMine is the Kingdom pt 2David and Tanya continue their chat about his new book .. Mine Is The Kingdom and chat about Brian Houston's protege, former Aussie PM Scott Morrison, or was it the other way around? The divine rights of kings extends throughout the church and the state - What can we do about it? Anything ? Just a couple of eagles... bound for glory.. Come chat! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2024-03-3122 min
Leaving HillsongA Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the MetaverseTwas the night before Xmas when author and activist Matt Drapper talked late night secrets with Tanya -the best kind, too - other people's ...Join us as we leave no stone or stoner unturned in our quest for more information to bring YOU.Because there's a reason for the season - and that's to see whether everyone else is doing better than you, or worse. ... SO JOIN US FOR SOME XMAS FUN - the Hillsong edition!We talk marriage, divorce, and WHAT THE HELL WENT ON IN...2023-12-261h 35
Leaving HillsongThe End of An Era w GraceGrace hit town and she had a thing or 2 to say... so we kicked off this chat w a visit back to Hillsong and who she saw and who she didn't...! Join Tanya and Grace for a good old time catch up including a bunch of probably defamatory accusations that if you know, you know. All fun and games til someone loses their credentials..Come chat! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-12-0341 min
Leaving HillsongJudgment Day pt 1Ex pastor Brian Houston's verdict read from the transcripts of his day in court for concealing a serious indictable offence. Direct from NSW courts... a world first.. the entire verdict... well, part 1.. with Tanya Levin and Jake Elliot! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-11-0535 min
Leaving HillsongThe Anti-Christ Vultures pt 2 - The VerdictYOLANDI B and Tanya dive back into the BOLT 💙 HOUSTON 💙 HOUSTON interview and we talk a lot and listen and talk about two of the most privileged humans complain about one going to court. We've pulled it apart so you don't have to and next up is a gossip ep so.. jump in! Come chat! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-08-201h 19
Sex, Drugs, and JesusEpisode #110: The Bull$h!t A$$ @uckery That Is Hillsong Church + Vanity Fair's Fiasco, With Tanya Levin, Author - Podcast Host - Former Hillsong Church MemberSend us a textWhat do people with narcissistic personality disorder and the leaders of religious organizations have in common? Absolutely, every damn thing! I have with me today, Tanya Levin, the host of the Leaving Hillsong podcast. The same one was also featured on two separate documentaries. One was on Discovery Plus - it's called The Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed and the other one produced by Vanity Fair on Hulu called The Secrets of Hillsong. I got Tanya Levin with me and we're going to dissect this foolishness reverberating from Hillsong Church Australia, the s...2023-07-241h 48
Leaving HillsongThe Grifter Highway w Janice Lagata@godhasnotgiven Star Janice Lagata continues her discussion from New York City with Tanya about:hellpodcastsfriends who think you're going to hellleaving churchwhatever might be going on in preachers' heads when they spend up all that money!So come talk the big talk as we travel further on down The Grifter Highway... come chat! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-07-0335 minLeaving HillsongThe Grifter Highway w Janice LagataWriter, performer, musician and host of top-rating #exvangelical and life podcast @godhasnotgiven, Janice Lagata, joins Tanya Levin to discuss her story of being in and leaving the most famous of all the Hillsongs--- New York City with Pastor Carl Lentz. Teamed up to discuss the internal investigation report from the lawyers, we move on to topics including Janice's own history and her perspective now the report, the pastors, and the leaders are all OUT... This is nothing if not HONEST and Janice is her warm, funny wise self as we take a look...2023-07-0237 minLeaving HillsongThe Closing Arguments - TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONSOn 15 and 16 June, the closing arguments in the trial of R v Brian Charles Houston were heard at Sydney's Downing Centre, the prosecution and the defence allocated one day each. Jake Elliot from @the_framew0rk and me, Tanya were there both days to see these things in real life and he took notes while I stared at Bobbie. We take a good stab at understanding what took place, offer some opinions for what they're worth and we even hear from our LH lawyer !I don't think the prosecutor is...2023-06-2557 minLeaving HillsongCarl Lentz and the Trouble at Vanity Fair Part 3Why did the Vanity Fair documentary nosedive into a promo piece for a perp with multiple complaints about his leadership, his behaviour, his financial misappropriation, sexual exploitation, labour exploitation, coercive control and on and on including spiritual abuse? We may never find out, although I suspect we will... but today we conclude the Carl Lentz VF exploration with Tanya's first hand account of working with the producers... and being deceived... and feeling scammed. Shaun Nemorin, M.S.W. , U.N.H.C.R staff, and former Leaving Hillsong podcast guest - An Economy of...2023-06-111h 02Leaving HillsongCarl Lentz and the Trouble at Vanity Fair part 2What did BCH ask Tanya Levin after more than 23 years of no contact when they caught up at court? Why did Tanya get arrested while Justin Bieber was at conference? We continue Luc Hilton's interview with Leaving Hillsong host, Tanya Levin in part 2 of this very special episode ... don't miss it!! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-06-0533 minLeaving HillsongCarl Lentz and the Trouble at Vanity Fair Part 1Vanity Fair's recent 'documentary' The Secrets Of Hillsong had a really big secret it kept from most of the participants - they were being interviewed without knowing that the source of so many complaints of abuse, celeb loving pastor from New York, Carl Lentz was actually using this for a comeback. Or using Vanity Fair or from most ways you look at this, the positive light shines bright like a diamond in a pastor's Rolex.And we got scammed. Bad. Just lied to... and here we are. So, i decided, since Vanity Fair...2023-06-0443 minLeaving HillsongA Visit from the Ancients - Bobbie's MassageBobbie Houston, the former Biggest Shot at Hillsong, has been preaching up a storm at her frenemy's church, Wendy Treat over in Seattle, blissfully ignorant of the reality of her husband's bad behaviour and inability to shave. Or is she? Join me, Tanya and James, our resident Mental Health consultant as we look over the myriad of drivel and confessions that pour out of the heart/mouth of Roberta Lee Houston nee McDonald. Is she a witch? Is she mentally ill? Is she lying? All 3? You decide tonight as we hear all about...2023-05-281h 04Leaving HillsongA Strong, Buff Jesus - Part 2Carl Lentz was an unusual pastor to his New York City sheep and they loved every moment of him. Until they didn't. Long before Lentz's famous fall, Nate, a native New Yorker was on the production team at Carl's NY franchise, and he joins us again with his fiance, Gail, a Canadian, who also comes from a background of evangelicalism. We chat about Carl, and Josh, and Darnell, and what it's like to SERVE under the KING ... we also have a fun time talking about what's the point of Brian Houston? and...2023-05-211h 13Leaving HillsongThe Kind of People That They AreWhat kind of people spend $12,000 to change a flight? What kind of people are these big spenders in the name of God? S.J. got in touch and wanted to go through the Whistleblower Docs on the pod so we sat down and had a good old chat about hankies, and phones, phone cases, Shady and Freddy from J.C. Travel (yes, it is what you think) , private jets, mouth ulcer ointment and every expenditure she found horrific and hilarious.Come join me, Tanya, and S.J., a Leaver from way back, as we dive again...2023-03-191h 14Leaving HillsongA Giant Slot Machine Part 2OUR resident mental health expert James and me Tanya carry on for a bit about Bobbie Houston, her husband, her marriage, but most of all her thoughts when creating the social media posts that she does. We're basically lost for words but we do our best and well, just come chat with us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-03-0227 minLeaving HillsongA Giant Slot Machine - Part 1"Hey Tanya" the SMS said. "Do you think it's Hubris Syndrome or Narcissism?" James, our resident mental health professional was asking me about the recent posts by former #Hillsong #leader #Bobbie Houston. So we decided to take a closer look.. Come read Case Notes with us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-02-2629 minLeaving HillsongTheir Own Set of Rules (feat Grace) Part 3Grace and Tanya talk about pastors turning into life coaches and #nepobabies also called career advancement in #Hillsong as well as many other nuggets of info that Grace is famous here for dropping into conversation. This is Part 3 and it's the final so come on over and chat with us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2023-01-3125 minLeaving HillsongThe Full Armour of BrianThe surprise sale of the Houston family belongings on Instagram made for an even happier new year for people wanting to know where their tithes ended up. Brian and Bobbie are selling up and moving out and moving on up or somewhere who knows? Join Matthew Drapper and me, Tanya Levin for an irreverent and bemusing look at the items that the #Hillsong people have posted willingly online, from slippers to cushions to that jacket!So come chat and laugh! we're all weeping on the inside. it's fine! ...2023-01-2746 minLeaving HillsongThe Court Case Week 1 Part 3 - Trials + TribulationsHi there! Welcome back to Leaving Hillsong and The Court Case of Brian Charles Houston on one count of concealing a serious indictable offence, namely his father's child sexual abuse of a nearly 8 year old boy in 1970. Jake Elliot from @the_framew0rk (insta and FB) and me, Tanya Levin, combed through our notes fresh out of court. And this is what we got. It's such a fascinating case that it truly is worth keeping up and taking notes and week 2 is a bombshell and more. So grab your snacks and your sofa and...2023-01-1540 min
Full MutualityS1E22: Hillsong on Trial — with Tanya LevinProducer's note: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault by clergy and child sex abuse by clergy. Listener discretion is advised.Former Hillsong Church member and author of the book People in Glass Houses: An Insider's Story of a Life In and Out of Hillsong Tanya Levin sits down with Gail and Nate to talk about her experience at Hillsong in Australia from its founding and what she has learned in the years since.Tanya is also the host of the popular podcast Leaving Hillsong, where she regularly features the stories of those...2022-12-291h 43Leaving HillsongThe Court Case Part 2 Week One Trials + TribulationsJake Elliot from @the_framew0rk and Tanya from LH carry on with whatever sense can be made of the story so far in Week 1. The DPP is laying out an extensive and intricate case and neither of us know shorthand so we're doing our best with our notes. It's proving to be the highest theatre in the Downing Centre in Sydney for the trial of Brian Charles Houston, the former Global Senior Pastor of Hillsong for the singular count of concealing a serious indictable offence that being the assault of a boy in 1970 by his father, F...2022-12-1828 minLeaving HillsongThe Court Case Week 1 Part 1 - Trials + Tribulations IIIJake Elliot from @the_framew0rk and Tanya Levin of @leaving.hillsong attended the trial of Brian Houston on a single count of Conceal a Serious Indictable Offence under Section 316 of the Crimes Act for the first 5 days at the Downing Centre in Sydney's CBD. We recorded notes as best we could, Jake on his iPad and me by hand. This is Part 1 of our note comparison of the events that unfolded over those 5 days. This episode covers day 1 and some of day 2 . More of the opening statements will be recorded later. As...2022-12-1137 minLeaving HillsongTrials + Tribulations II The Hillsong Starter Pack Part 2Grace and Tanya shooting more breeze with: - that prayer for B and B by Rob Ferguson- facing the impact of the Hillsong volcano- trauma at HS and the response.. Come chat!Producer: Kimberly Robinson Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-12-1027 minLeaving HillsongTrials and Tribulations II -the Hillsong Starter Pack (feat Grace)Grace and Tanya talk court. Part 1- BCH stuff-Updates from last week's court chat from our legal assistant, Nic- Queen Natalie's response to Hillsong's attempt at a defence- and the prayers of the desperate Come chat!Producer : Kimberly Robinson Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-12-0419 minLeaving HillsongTrials and Tribulations - R.v Brian Charles HoustonWhy is Hillsong's Brian Houston going to court? What is this case about? Why do Australian lawyers wear wigs and who the heck is 'R'? What's a Royal Commission? Councillor Nathan Zamprogno joins me, Tanya Levin, to discuss the court case that will start in Sydney's local court on December 2, 2022, We are not here to speculate or opine, merely to outline the processes that have taken place leading to this court appearance. So join us, in the pursuit of the understanding of how criminal justice might work in the land Down Under...2022-11-2734 minLeaving HillsongThe Power to Say NoLast Thursday a friend in Melbourne contacted me to tell me she had succeeded in nominating Brian Houston of Hillsong for an Ernie award for misogyny and that he'd won! I immediately asked if she would share her experiences and she did! This episode is an update on the court matters that Hillsong is surrounded by and drowning in, including the matter of Pastor John McMartin, chief concealer of Frank Houston, and charged with indecent assault against a young woman. And then, Meg tells her story. It's a harrowing tale of chi...2022-08-2132 minLeaving HillsongIn the Face of Something AwfulWhat does anyone do when they hear about or experience child sexual assault or any crime coming out of a church? How do we stop the cover ups and ignorance? Join Nick Jordan and me as we discuss the work he does chasing down offenders to bring about justice in the form of compensation and acknowledgement. It's a tough but urgent chat, and it's mandatory for all LH listeners. As well as anyone else who needs to know. Which is all of us. Come chat. This is the stuff that we need...2022-08-1445 minLeaving HillsongThere’s Always Been a Lot to Say part 2Grace and I continue our conversation about Hillsong's implosion and loss of revenue and members. We discuss conferences and events and the addictive and fun nature of being involved and feeling special... And then I force Grace's hand about her current or not attendance at Hillsong and where does she come from? So stick around til the end and enjoy our dissection of a young person's experience at Hillsong... and how she left. COME CHAT!! Producer: Kimberly Robinson Hosted on Acast. See acast...2022-07-3126 minLeaving HillsongThere’s Always Been a Lot to SayGRACE IS BACK! and she's telling it like it is. We sat down to kick off recording Grace's own history with Hillsong and thought we'd go over some updates. She'd had a few chats with some insiders and has taken the liberty of sharing news with us all. We discuss the recent Hillsong conference, or what's left of it, and Hillsong College or what's left of it, and it's going to take until the end of episode 2 before I get Grace to tell us exactly nearly her Hillsong background. So pull up a chai...2022-07-2433 minLeaving HillsongA Journey they Take for ThemselvesCounselling: should Christians seek counsel with unbelievers? Can Christian counsellors be professional?Why not just keep it in house? In church? Today we meet Petra a long time mental health social worker to find out how these two worlds meet and why it’s so important that they do Come chat with us !Producer: Kimberly Robinson Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-07-1749 minLeaving HillsongA Glibness and Superficiality CASE NOTES EP 1WELCOME TO CASE NOTES - LEAVING HILLSONG'S NEW SEGMENT ON MENTAL HEALTH. TODAY we meet James, a mental health practitioner from Victoria, Australia who joins me to discuss the myriad he of mental health possibilities that are expressed in the posts and personalities and behaviours of former Hillsong leaders, Brian and Bobbie Houston. While THIS IS NOT MEDICAL ADVICE OR A PSYCHOLOGICAL DIAGNOSIS, it's definitely TIME TO LOOK AT THIS from a practical and a medical POV. So, pull up a chair and listen in to the first dive into mental health and Hil...2022-07-0346 minLeaving HillsongAn Insignificant Gay Kid Part 2 (language free)Sarah continues her deconstruction story and wow there's a lot here... We discuss issues that women face in leaving churches, especially if they're gay women. Describing herself as both a 'wee sensitive soul' and a 'diehard atheist' we managed to get through issues including - rape in marriage- custody battles- lesbian parenting-neurodiversity- purity culture-prophecies and facades- consent- going NO CONTACT and can ExVangelicals trust therapy? It was a doozy so don...2022-06-2838 minLeaving HillsongAn Insignificant Gay Kid Part 2 (uncut)Sarah continues her deconstruction story and wow there's a lot here... We discuss issues that women face in leaving churches, especially if they're gay women. Describing herself as both a 'wee sensitive soul' and a 'diehard atheist' we managed to get through issues including - rape in marriage- custody battles- lesbian parenting-neurodiversity- purity culture-prophecies and facades- consent- going NO CONTACT and can ExVangelicals trust therapy? It was a doozy so don...2022-06-2638 minLeaving HillsongAn Insignificant Gay Kid - Part 1 - language freeGrowing up in the Christian Outreach Centre movement, Sarah was immersed in church life. She grew up in a Christian home and married a Christian man. Everything was perfect. Except Sarah is gay and she knew something had to change. Sarah is from Glasgow, and it's another look from another culture at what happens when an insignificant gay kid is also 'a raging homosexual'. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-06-2231 minLeaving HillsongDerryn Hinch Interview 2007 with LH Host Tanya LevinWhen People in Glass Houses was first released in July 2007, Australian ABC show Enough Rope and its host Andrew Denton wanted exclusive rights to interview me.That interview was intense for me having never done any media and starting on TV was a lot. Derryn Hinch is an Australian icon for an 80's kid like me. He was a late night current affairs host who famously served a jail sentence for releasing a suppressed name of a pedophile before the courts. I really wanted to get this opportunity and it was only in the...2022-06-2109 minLeaving HillsongAn Insignificant Gay Kid - Part 1 (language warning)Growing up in the Christian Outreach Centre movement, Sarah was immersed in church life. She grew up in a Christian home and married a Christian man. Everything was perfect. Except Sarah is gay and she knew something had to change. Sarah is from Glasgow, and it's another look from another culture at what happens when an insignificant gay kid is also 'a raging homosexual'. R - rated language warning Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-06-1932 minLeaving HillsongBen and Brian’s Big Breakfast Part 2When Ben Gresham had had enough of Hillsong's inaction on LGBT issues and Gay Conversion Therapy, he Tweeted the pastor, Brian Houston and was invited to breakfast. Ben joins us in this chat to discuss that discussion and what it's like to come face to face with the leader himself. We also talk coming out of the closet and out of Hillsong and living an authentic life... no matter who you are!You don't want to miss part 2! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-06-1338 minLeaving HillsongBen and Brian’s Big Breakfast Part 1Ben Gresham-Petchell is an out and proud gay Christian. However, that wasn’t always the case. After coming out to his Hillsong youth group leader, Ben entered his first ‘ex-gay’ program at 16 years old believing that it was impossible to be gay and Christian. What followed was years of harm resulting in depression and even a suicide attempt.Ben joins Matthew and me to discuss his Big Gay Rainbow of Light in the Darkness that was Hillsong and how he took its leader, Brian Houston to task and to coffee. It's a wonderful story so...2022-06-1247 minLeaving HillsongA Kind of Empathy Part 2In Part 2 , we hear Matthew Drapper's story of gay conversion therapy and the damage and dangers it presented. Drappa takes us through his path OUT of the closet and also the wannabe Hillsong church he was so heavily invested in. It's a magical conversation and an incredible story of hardship and hope and authenticity. Please pull up a chair and join us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-06-1144 min
Reading HillsongChapter 15 RefiringHazel and Frank refuse to see sense in stopping the lifelong lived delusion even when Frank gets sick but not enough to die. The book finally ends. Yay. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-06-0711 minLeaving HillsongA Kind of Empathy Pt 1In our first #PRIDE interview, Matt Drapper details a childhood growing up in a 'Duggaresque' family where homeschooling and homebirthing were the order of the day and the parents. Being gay was a secret Matthew kept for a very, very long time, until he finally couldn't keep the truth inside for much longer.. Please join us for part 1 of A Kind of Empathy.. it's an emotional roller coaster and you're gonna love it.. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-06-0535 minLeaving HillsongTo Be a HoustonWhen Hillsong's Interim Pastor Phil gave the Great Announcement of 19 March 2022 in front of 800 of the company's closest friends on Zoom, not everyone responded sympathetically to the delivery of the news that To Be or Not to Be a Houston supporter was to be the question. Brian and Bobbie's daughter Laura, as well as their son, Pastor Ben, leapt to their defences with an emotive email to the board that Ben soon supported. Somehow that email made its way to the Saturday Paper's Elle Hardy and to Grace and me. Listeners of #leavinghillsong on...2022-05-2936 minLeaving HillsongIn Bed With the DevilJournalist, producer and multi Emmy award winner Rich McHugh joins us in the Leaving Hillsong conversation to discuss the similarities he sees between Hollywood and Hillsong. Rich was the Supervising Producer at NBC's Investigative News Investigative Unit and interviewed scores of Harvey Weinstein accusers while working with Ronan Farrow. The Pulitzer Prize winning work this story achieved in the New Yorker spun off into the #metoo movement which changed the world as we know it. After dusting his hands of Weinstein, Rich McHugh heard there was another system of power... this time a chu...2022-05-1534 minLeaving HillsongTulips and the Monster they Created part 2Alcohol is not Brian H's friend so why is drinking so rampant in Hillsong life? And what has changed since the old days when not a drop should be drunk? Or a pastor? Grace and I continue our discussions on what the is going on recently in HS and its culture and it gets a little heated! Join us for more chat about #leavinghillsong Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-05-1334 minLeaving HillsongTulips and the Monster They CreatedGrace and I (both Social Work grads and former Hillsong people) wanted to catch up on the who's who and who's where of Hillsong. Cos we've both been a bit MIA.Join us as we attempt to make sense of some leaders' decisions by reporting and trying to attach some social work theory or bandaids to what is going on. Over 2 episodes we discuss life development stages, mental health, gender, tulips and so much more. So grab a cup of coffee or tea or the sacramental wine and let's talk tulips! ...2022-05-1249 minReading HillsongChapter 14 The Thief Sitting in the ChurchFrank is moving and shaking in the gifts, prophesying and correcting people everywhere he goes and calling out their demons. Having lost any previous fear of getting anything wrong, Frank corrects people's tongues and interpretations and he knows what's in people's purses. Hazel can only worry that the same thing might happen to her while Frank is out of town. But Frank is unstoppable. One night, while a young Brian is preaching, Frank calls from Seoul where he is ministering with a word of knowledge that Brian must enforce!And y...2022-04-2117 minLeaving HillsongThe Money Trail Pt 3Leavers, Believers, and the rest of the world: WOWdid you know this stuff? I sure as heck didn't and you can hear the excitement in my voice. 11 year old me had so much fun in this snooping world of spying on the bad guys. Barry Bowen from Trinity Foundation (trinityfi.org) walks us right through a Form 990 of TBN the cable channel and shows us all the revenue they've disclosed. We go snooping through bizpedia and then discuss the red flags you should look for when assessing a church!Each mo...2022-04-1734 minLeaving HillsongThe Money Trail Part 2Well, goodness me! What a ride The Money Trail is becoming!In Part 2, Barry Bowen from the Trinity Foundation covers issues including:- fraud - board structures - property searches and data bases for church ownership - income streams - music, music, music- copyrighting your sermon and much moreDo not missPart 2 ofTHE MONEY TRAIL ! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-04-1627 minLeaving HillsongThe Money TrailOh baby, baby, it's a wild world. It's hard to get by just upon a smile. But it helps!WELCOME TO THE SPECIAL EDITION OF LEAVING HILLSONG THE TELEVANGELIST HUNTING EDITION!BARRY BOWEN FROM THE TRINITY FOUNDATION in Texas talks you through the way corporate structures, sneaky shifty boards, and limited liability helps evangelists flourish and propagate with little interruption. In this episode we cover:- unexplained deaths around TV evangelists- revenue disclosure or lack thereof- money laundering, does Hillsong have off shore bank accounts? ...2022-04-1528 minLeaving HillsongFamily TiesOne Roberta Houston, AKA Bobbie or Mother Dove (official cult name) is the next character #leavinghillsong. And it looks like she did not go peacefully in the night. Brian had a tantrum online about it, just about 8 o'clink, and then the Board, whoever the heck they even are, wrote a thinly veiled swipe back and Grace and I couldn't resist. So set your hair in curlers, and get ready to hang over the back fence with us, as we say bye bye Bobbie and wonder where their successors, sons, and Rolexes will end up. ...2022-04-1058 minLeaving HillsongBoard GamesThere's been a lot of changes behind the Board Room doors at Hillsong. Our Chief Source, Saucey/BBQ Sauce/theSauce walks us through what the moves the board have made, who's who in this zoo and who's zooming who? Where are the elders, who's behind the changes and what does it all mean? Tonight we're in the board room. Hillsong has been playing Monopoly for way too long. Who's the little dog? and the guy with the hat? It looks like someone's missing.. so pull up an execut...2022-04-0334 minLeaving HillsongMy Way or the Norway - SorryIn this bonus episode, Grace and I have a look at a detailed statement from a former Hillsong pastor in Norway and a letter from Brian@hillsong.com that says sorry, almost,.. Come chat!! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-03-3141 minReading HillsongChapter 13 Enlarge Your TentHazel marvels at how Brian and Frank are like peas in a pod, right after Brian agrees it's a fantastic idea to start an Arts/Theology College. Frank and Hazel travel around looking for new buildings and churches to start and chuck a couple at Brian to look after to keep him out of the house and busy. Hazel outlines that Frank is the person who started everything and let pastors manage under his supervision, settling the old question of who started Hillsong. Thanks, Haze This week's racism is about Indians and Chinese as...2022-03-2922 minLeaving HillsongThe Great ResignationThe week ending 27 March 2022 concluded with the 3rd resignation of a pastor. The 7 days prior had seen a board member, and at least 2 pastors resign.. most notably the Big Eagle himself as he used to be affectionately known, Brian Houston ... Join 'Grace' a former member of ten years of Hillsong who is working on a Masters in Social work and me to look at the statements from Hillsong and what they might have meant .. then and now.. This one's worth cake... and we'll talk about that. Talk then...2022-03-2744 minReading HillsongChapter 12 A QuiverfullHazel talks about all the joys of having children but actually just highlights their secret shames and does so one by one. Frank prays and warns people not to be seen mixing with the Beatles fans but there is rebellion in the ranks. Deliverance meetings cause Beverly pain and Graeme ends up in weeks of depression which isn't cured with Frank's interventions, oddly enoughThen one day, one of the Houston kids has a terrible, horrible awful thing to tell the parents. Frank and Hazel respond with the most appropriate fears.. HOW will this affect th...2022-03-2429 minLeaving HillsongPowerful Men and the Greasy PoleOn March 10 2022 I was arrested after attending a court mention of Brian Houston'sBy the following week everything at Hillsong had changed. Join us as we discuss what Brian did next or last or didn't do, my 2nd arrest connected with Hillsong, and what might happen next or not. We go over the Global Board's letter of response. And we have a lot of questions. Special guest:Rev Michael Bones muso, human rights activist and law degree holder last from the Baby or the Bathwater!Come chat!2022-03-201h 01Leaving HillsongDavid’s Princess - a reading from People in Glass HousesRecorded on 20 March 2022 following the initial public revelations about Brian Houston's misconduct, I decided to do a reading from my book, People in Glass Houses. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-03-2004 minReading HillsongChapter 11 A Magnificent MarriageHazel invites us all to share in her marriage secrets, which involves mostly Frank losing his mind and Hazel tolerating the outbursts of rage and emotion. Frank gets out of bed to go see Billy at 230 am as Hazel relates that time she slept through someone's emergency phone call chat for 2 hours!Hazel says that after 39 years of marriage they knew each other's thoughts so she must have known about his criminal activities and just ignored them, making her culpable. Marriage advice from these two is not to be missed. Hos...2022-03-0325 minReading HillsongChapter 10 Other SheepFrank and Hazel take a trip to Australia even though they can't afford it again but then suddenly Frank starts travelling the world and is amazed at how many new kinds of people there are to be judged. Frank learns that demons are a thing and basically is disgusted by every other culture apart from his own until he gets home and doesn't want to settle. He gets invited and then uninvited from a youth conference but Hazel doesn't quite say why. Frank cries a lot. Hosted on Acast. See acas...2022-03-0124 minLeaving HillsongWho’s The Boss?Is Brian Houston #leavinghillsong? What does it mean that he 'stepped aside' or was it 'down'? Now what? Join me and my very clever colleague and source for this fantastic discussion about how Brian C Houston came to be in the Assemblies of God movement, why he's left, and what his life will be like after...We also discus what the organisation looks like and well, who's the boss? DON'T MISS THIS EXCITING CLOSE UP RETURN TO LEAVING HILLSONG! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for m...2022-02-2727 minReading HillsongChapter 9 - The South CountryFrank and Hazel move somewhere else to start again. This time it's south and Frank starts moving and shaking straight away. Ray writes a helpful letter and Frank moves forward in faith, using only the 'bank of heaven' as backup. He also helps the church understand that voting is NOT the way to elect a church board. Divorce becomes a brand new way to judge people. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2022-02-2429 minLeaving HillsongWelcome Home Part 3 plus Holiday TeaHappy Holidays!In this gift for you, we discuss what happens when, after leaving Hillsong, Noemi asks some queer questions and asks for straight answers from the Men Who Said They Knew About God. Then we talk about why and how Carl Lentz was fired and the impact that had on his immediate followers...We also talk about resilience and what got Noemi through. Don't miss this episode for controversy and healing tips! Something for everyone! Oh and stay safe ❤️❤️ Hosted on Acas...2021-12-2623 minLeaving HillsongWelcome Home Part 2Hillsong says 'Everybody's Welcome'. But for years the question has dragged on in celeb and mainstream media:Is everybody welcome in the same way? How are members of the LGBT community treated? The pink dollars are welcome but what about the humans behind them? Noemi Uribe shares her experiences of asking these questions to her pastors and leaders in Boston as part of the East Coast 'campus' of Hillsong. Due to the deliberately vague avoidance, she received very clear answers and the impact of this treatment was nearly catastrophic. This...2021-12-1958 min
TMI with Sarah GrantLeaving Hillsong with Tanya LevinIn this episode of "TMI", SG has a D&M with her new #BFF Tanya Levin (Author, Social Worker, Crusader for Truth and Justice).Tanya takes us into the belly of the beast that is Christian perfectionism and why the culture is so damaging to those who find themselves inside the Hillsong Church.So please make yourself comfortable and remember there aren't any seat belts where we're going, especially in this episode. So hang on if you must!Trigger Warning: as always with TMI, we tend to go off-road quickly and often. This i...2021-12-152h 12Leaving HillsongWelcome HomeNoemi had grown up as a pastor's kid in Mexico and was involved in church planting with her family. After returning to the US for her education continued her Pentecostal faith.She was eventually invited to a Hillsong Church plant, later, not knowing it would become infamous not too long after.In Part 1, Noemi shares a fascinating history of life as a Pentecostal in Mexico and the transition into 'white church', and away from her very cultural roots including the Brown Virgin her grandmother revered.Don't miss this compelling introduction to Noemi's experience of church, faith, and joining Hillsong this...2021-12-0531 minLeaving HillsongThe Bathwater or the Baby?"Reverend" Bones is an indie musician, songwriter and singer based in Canberra. He's a passionate climate change activist and a law graduate, working long hours when he's not playing with the Exvangelicals. It's a very different life for this 30-something than ten years ago when he first ventured out of his hometown, into the city, and the study of philosophy and law at university. Michael, as his mother calls him, speaks strongly from his own experience and professional insights about healing, changing, evolving, and adapting to a world and a world view without Christianity or chu...2021-11-2848 minLeaving HillsongA Contestant in Their GameYolandi Bosch is one of the handful of people who have ever spoken out in print against Hillsong's practices and ethics. She has featured in the New York Post, Business Insider, Vanity Fair, and is rumoured to be have been interviewed for an upcoming Hollywood special. But at what cost? Did Hillsong sue? Will they sue? Is speaking up and 'doing the right thing' really worth it in the real world? Join us for this very important discussion about protecting other people. Closing track by Gospel...2021-11-1437 minLeaving HillsongA Contestant in Their GameGiven that 90% of Hillsong College students in Australia are international, it's kinda important to know how those students are treated and what the actual education is like. Yolandi Bosch found out when after saving up, she applied to Hillsong College to further her skills and her relationship with God. What she found was she had paid to be part of an entertainment machine, where students were graded according to their marketability, and if they had none, they paid to be rejected. Far from home, seriously ill at one stage and forced to volunteer wit...2021-11-0736 minReading HillsongAnother‘s Mantle - chapter 8Ray refuses to return from Canada and so Frank is left to cough up some healing gifts and grow some church. He decides to prey upon the local Maori people who are initially suspicious, but inevitably overcome by Frank's sale of the gospel and every single indigenous person signs up to the AoG. Frank and Ray exchange letters declaring their love for each other and church growth, seeming to forget that they used to ride kids' mechanical toys at the shopping centre not long ago. The Holy Spirit tells Hazel a thing even Fran...2021-11-0422 minReading HillsongBeer Into PaintFrank and Ray are determined to win the spiritual war with the Maori people and show them the truth. Hazel is skeptical, 'as usual' but is forced into being a Pentecostal during a tent meeting. Ray believes Frank is ready and prays for a double portion for him before he nicks off to Canada for some reason. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-11-0219 minLeaving HillsongA Minor ThingLisa found spiritual homes in the AoG/Hillsong network for 14 years, for her, her husband, and family of 5... or so she thought.And while she had questions over the years, things that didn't seem right, it wasn't until a major issue during a major rebranding was treated like a minor thing that Lisa and her family fled.And then experienced the results of their hard work.Join Lisa and me for a chat about a mother's realisations from being in and finally leaving Hillsong! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-10-3139 minLeaving HillsongMy Voice Does MatterMegan was 17 when she moved to the big city and started attending a big church that soon became Life in name and for her.But after guaranteeing her medical welfare during a crisis to staff, everything changed when Megan got back to church and college.And then there's the old Hillsong link.Join us for a chat about Life, the Hillsong Universe and everything Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-10-1035 minLeaving HillsongAn Economy of Souls - Part 2Shaun Nemorin is a therapist, mental health researcher and a leader in the torture and trauma field. He holds a Bachelor of Psychology and a Masters of Social Work and has 20 years’ experience working with people with a refugee experience, 10 of those spent in humanitarian contexts and emergencies with the United Nations.But as a younger man he witnessed and experienced first hand abusive hazing practices at the institution he called his spiritual home.Some time ago, Shaun decided to confront those responsible and he discusses all of this tonight.We urge listeners to prepare for an intense and important co...2021-09-2649 minReading HillsongAn Unforgettable Character - Chapter 6Frank and Ray continue their adventures together. Hazel is skeptical, but Frank and Ray master all 9 gifts of the Spirit after they read a book from America and go out practising them in the general public's viewing. Ray hits a medical issue, but is assured that 'God does not amputate legs'. After Frank brings a glass of water to Ray, calling it the greatest moment of his life, even Ray knows it's time for things to cool down and for prince Frank to get his own kingdom. Hosted on Acast. See...2021-09-2323 minReading HillsongThe Fire Falls - Chapter 5Frank hangs out with the boys and they talk about the Holy Spirit. Frank and Ray grow closer and pray together. Hazel is skeptical about this movement but says she'll 'try anything in a desperate moment'. It affects her so much she even reads the Bible instead of the usual women's magazines. "A new life had begun for both of us."There was still the matter of needing new shoes. Everyone notices the holes in Frank's shoes. Then they arrived as a 'gift from God'. Someti...2021-09-2127 minLeaving HillsongAn Economy of Souls - Part 1Shaun Nemorin is a narrative therapist, a former UNHCR staffer, with a Masters in Social Work, specialising in trauma. But before that, he was a boy looking for community in connection in a place he now calls The Institution.Join us for this conversation and settle in for an overdose of insight, expertise, and lived experience. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-09-1945 minReading HillsongChapter 4 Blowing a Strange WindFrank is sick and/or depressed. People accuse the couple of stealing from the SalvosFrank meets preachers that he instantly falls for. Hazel can't believe how one man can be so dreary all the time and yet persist. God tells Hazel to shut up. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-09-1433 minLeaving HillsongA Pentecostal Agenda Part 2In Part 2, Fiona leaves the revival centre movement and goes out into the big, not so bad world. This episode looks briefly at the domestic violence model and leaving a pentecostal church, so please be prepared. And Fiona also walks us through how she took social action and was successful! keeping kids in schools safer from the Pentecostal AgendaIt's a great listen, so please do join us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-09-1233 minReading HillsongBlood and FireFrank is up to his old hijinx again, only this time with Alex Bryson from next door. Then, he meets a lassie who never planned to marry.. and they arrange an understanding... You'll laugh, you'll cry but you can't help Being Frank Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-09-0927 minReading HillsongChapter 2 the Irish FactorLittle William Francis was a sickly baby that nearly died. Yet Annie and Frank Sr, his doting parents managed to win some prayers from a visiting Baptist, and overlooking his denomination with unforeseen grace, they allowed him to pray for little Frank, and, the child lived. But Frank Sr was a man of steel and anger. And what of school for young Houston? In chapter 2 we learn of Frank's friend Francis Howard, and the inevitable voice of the Lord Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more info...2021-09-0726 minLeaving HillsongA Pentecostal AgendaThis week we hear from Fiona about a church not unlike Hillsong, but not Hillsong.Fiona grew up in Melbourne in several pentecostal churches including the Christian Revival Centres. The experiences had a profound impact on her life as she rose through the ranks to pastor and leader and she discusses those times and what it was like to come out as gay in a place with a pentecostal agenda. Please join us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-09-0527 minReading HillsongBeing Frank Chapter 1 - The End of the BeginningOne day, a young Salvation Army Captain's wife, Hazel can't find her husband, Frank. He went to post some letters and disappeared, right when Colonel Bethe turned up with some serious questions for about the money. Hazel doesn't know what to do, after the last breakdown Frank had had. Reading Hillsong presents, The End of the Beginning, Chapter One ofBeing Frank Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-09-0224 minReading HillsongWelcome to Reading Hillsong - trailerWelcome to Reading Hillsong Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-09-0203 minLeaving HillsongA Bald-Faced Lie Part 2 (final) Nathan ZamprognoWhen disgraced pastor Frank Houston left the Hillsong off shoot church he'd been sent to, Nathan Zamprogno did soon after, too. But not before he'd seen the harsh reality of where church and state collided. Nathan shares his story of leaving Hillsong and how a political party that was supposed to have nothing to do with the church, made its influence very clear. Join us for Part 2 of a Bald - faced Lie, There were some tech difficulties with a previous version so if you missed the details:Nathan has been a social co...2021-08-2944 minLeaving HillsongA Bald-faced LieNathan Zamprogno was a devoted member of a church that was a Hillsong offshoot, about half an hour's drive away. He discusses the impact those years of devotion had on him before he ended up #leavinghillsong. But before he had, he was witness to a visiting pastor who appeared to stay. His name was Frank Houston, and it seemed strange he should be in such a small town so far away from the public eye. And the reasons were more than sinister.Please join us as Nathan and I discuss all things youth and...2021-08-2235 minLeaving HillsongMy Favourite Colour - Emily's Story Part 2 (final)Emily discusses the 'trail of destruction' that Bobbie Houston left behind and what the global pastor's words have meant to her.She tells us about the tools she found to rescue herself from Religious Trauma Syndrome and how she found a peaceful life that she loves living.So please join us to find out if Emily got a favourite colour and how she fought her way back after #leavinghillsong Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-08-1533 minLeaving HillsongMy Favourite Colour - Emily's StoryEmily grew up in a Christian home singing the songs of Hillsong in church. When she got the chance to actually be in the band after moving to London, she jumped at it. Over time, Emily realised things were changing. She talks to us about those changes, including the effects of Religious Trauma Syndrome in this episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-08-0837 minLeaving HillsongA Bit of a Weirdo - Part 2 Jo's StoryJo tells us her happy ending with Ben and the baby/s 🙂 and explains what life was like working every day for a church of 800 people in a volunteer musician role. A very informative episode about a woman's experience in the music world as a worship leader for a church plant of Hillsong's Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.2021-08-0127 minLeaving HillsongA Bit of a Weirdo - Jo's StoryJo felt like an outsider at school and gladly welcomed her friend's invitation to go to a youth group at a local church. The church happened to be one of the satellite offshoots 'planted' by Pastor Frank Houston of Hillsong (nee Sydney Christian Life Centre) and pastored by none other than Carl Lentz's future father-in-law, and old pal of Brian Houston's, Kevin Brett. Soon, Jo met Ben and fell in love. Both invested in a pastor's vision, they were to face some impossible decisions, decisions that were in conflict with the that vision. Join Jo and me as we discuss her...2021-07-2830 minLeaving HillsongAn Irresistible Drug: David's Story Part 3 (final)David discusses the effects of leaving Hillsong and what life's been like since as well as the influences Frank Houston had on the city, the nation, and his son, Brian.We hear more about the similarities David sees, the ways he survived and the fears he holds for those involved with Hillsong now.Join us for the inspiring and hope-filled conclusion, while we also make history. Hillsong is still claiming that Brian Houston started Hillsong. We are so grateful to David for his resolute recounting of what happened behind this whitewash. Make sure you listen to parts 1 and 2 to find o...2021-07-2543 min