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Joanne Lockwood is joined by Sheena Yap Chan to explore what persistence really looks like behind the scenes—moving past the myth of overnight success and continuing to take action through rejection, setbacks, and self-doubt.

Sheena shares how confidence can be rebuilt by understanding the root causes of fear and limiting beliefs, including childhood experiences, trauma, and cultural expectations. The conversation examines how social media comparison and perfectionism can damage self-worth, why vulnerability and authenticity matter, and how support—through communities, mentoring, and professional help—can accelerate growth.

They also discuss broader systemic pressures, including gender double standards at work, barriers to funding and leadership, and the importance of allies in shifting norms. Throughout, the focus stays on practical mindset shifts, staying connected to purpose, and persisting long enough for personal growth to translate into professional impact.