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What if your thoughts aren’t you—but weather moving through a wider sky? We dive into that gap between thinking and awareness with Jacky Fernandez, a mental health counselor and Zen teacher who bridges clinical tools and contemplative practice. Together we unpack how rumination fuels depression, worry feeds anxiety, and why fighting your mind rarely works. Instead, Jacky lays out simple, humane ways to begin: feet on the floor, breath in the belly, listening to birds, and mindful walking for restless bodies.

From trauma and addiction recovery to years of Zen training, Jacky’s path shows how small, steady choices shape the mind’s climate. We talk about modern distraction—phones, social feeds, and outrage cycles—that pour other people’s thoughts into our heads. Then we get practical: exercise before extra meds, watch how alcohol and sugar hijack mood, and use retreat lessons at home by stacking supportive conditions. Clarity isn’t just calm; it’s energy returning when mental noise drops.

A highlight is our deep look at self‑compassion. Jacky shares midbrain‑first practices that actually soothe: hand on heart, warmth, a shawl, tea, softening the jaw, and gentle touch. These gestures teach safety from the body up, so the mind can follow. We also explore koans and single‑point focus to slip past overthinking and touch direct insight, using the image “each branch of coral embraces the bright moon” as a guide to hold everyday mess and luminous clarity at once.

You’ll leave with a grounded playbook: meet yourself where you are, curate the conditions you can control, and practice short, repeatable moments of presence. Subscribe, share this with a friend who’s stuck in worry or rumination, and leave a review telling us one small practice you’ll try this week.

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