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Episode 109: The Next Wave of Tokenization in Finance
In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, Karsten Bruinsma, Jonny Fry, and Mathieu Cottin explore the evolving landscape of tokenization one year after the introduction of MiCAR, the EU’s Markets in Crypto-Assets Regulation. With a major symposium taking place at Rabobank in Utrecht, they reflect on the progress made so far and the challenges still ahead.A key theme in the discussion is the growing interest in tokenizing money market funds. The speakers examine why these instruments are becoming central to many digital asset strategies, particularly in Europe, and how tokenization could make them more accessible, tr...
2025-07-08
25 min
2Tokens Podcast
Episode 108: Tokenizing Trust: ANGU’s Gold-Backed Solution for Financial Inclusion
In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry and chair of 2Tokens Alex Bausch speak with payments expert Richard Anderson about ANGU, a gold-backed stablecoin aiming to reshape how value is stored and transferred in Sub-Saharan Africa.Designed to replace unstable and informal USD reserves with a secure, inflation-resistant digital token, ANGU enables individuals and small businesses to make payments, store savings, and send remittances—without needing a bank account. Built to work on basic mobile phones using USSD, it brings financial inclusion to underserved regions.The discussion expands into global trends, from th...
2025-06-24
19 min
2Tokens Podcast
Episode 107: The Next Wave of Digital Commerce - Programmable Payments and Stablecoins
In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, Jonny, Erich, and Alex take a comprehensive look at the rapidly evolving landscape of digital assets, tokenization, and fintech innovation. They reflect on their recent projects, including the work of 2Tokens in energy, finance, and art, and share insights into how tokenization is unlocking new levels of liquidity, efficiency, and transparency across various industries. The hosts discuss the transformative potential of programmable payments, stablecoins, and digital currencies, highlighting how these technologies can automate processes like real estate transactions, supply chain payments, and debt issuance.They explore the regulatory challenges and...
2025-06-10
30 min
2Tokens Podcast
Episode 106: One Token at a Time: Investing in Renewable Energy
In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Alex Bausch sits down with Meindert Jansberg, co-founder of EnergyBlocks (formerly Assetblocks), to explore how blockchain technology is being used to open up clean energy investments to a broader audience. EnergyBlocks offers tokenized green bonds that provide a 6.5% annual return, with a fully digital and automated onboarding, investment, and reporting process. Though powered by blockchain, the platform is designed for simplicity—making it easy for retail investors to participate without dealing with crypto directly.Meindert explains how their offerings ar...
2025-05-06
15 min
2Tokens Podcast
Episode 105: Crypto’s Legal Earthquake - Inside the New Rules of Crypto
In this episode host Jonny Fry sits down with Elsa Madrolle, General Manager for Europe, the Middle East, and Africa at VerifyVASP, to explore the complex and rapidly evolving world of crypto regulation and digital assets.Elsa shares her journey from a traditional finance background—most notably at CME Group—to becoming a leader in blockchain compliance. Their conversation delves into the significance of the FATF Travel Rule and how VerifyVASP supports virtual asset service providers in securely and compliantly exchanging sensitive information. With the rise of regulations like MiCA and DORA in the EU, Elsa explains how...
2025-04-23
15 min
2Tokens Podcast
Episode 104: From Boring Bonds to Blockchain: Finance Gets an Upgrade
In this episode, Jonny Fry and Alex Bausch sit down with Martijn Siebrand from ABN AMRO to unpack what’s really happening in the world of blockchain, tokenization, and digital assets. Martijn shares his takeaways and gives us a behind-the-scenes look at how one of Europe’s biggest banks is exploring the future of finance.The conversation covers everything from tokenizing bonds and driving green finance projects to what it could mean to digitize loan portfolios. It’s a fascinating look at how traditional banks are starting to embrace blockchain technology and rethink the way financial services work.
2025-04-09
21 min
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Tokenisatie lijkt geweldig idee, maar is nu een juridische puzzel | 371 B
Tokenisatie is een begrip dat steeds vaker opduikt in zowel de cryptowereld als daarbuiten. Kort gezegd houdt tokenisatie in dat je eigendom, rechten of andere waarde vertegenwoordigt in de vorm van een digitaal token. Deze tokens kunnen draaien op blockchainnetwerken zoals Ethereum en zijn zichtbaar in je digitale wallet. De toepassingen van tokens zijn divers: ze kunnen bewijs van eigenaarschap bieden, rechten vertegenwoordigen (zoals stemrecht of toegang) of zelfs een combinatie van beide functies. Om ons een wegwijs te maken in deze wereld, is Olivier Rikken te gast, head of research bij stichting 2Tokens en onderzoeker op het gebied...
2025-04-01
55 min
2Tokens Podcast
Episode 103: Regulatory Winds of Change in Tokenization
In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry from TeamBlockchain explores the cutting-edge world of asset tokenization with two industry experts: Philipp Pieper from Swarm and Erich Schnoeckel from 2Tokens.The conversation revolves around the evolution of tokenization from the "wild west" of 2016-2017 to today's emerging regulatory landscape. Philipp shares insights into Swarm's innovative approach to tokenizing real-world assets, including a gold token offering in partnership with Brinks. The discussion explores the potential impact of MiCA regulation in Europe and potential regulatory shifts in the United States.The episode highlights emerging opportunities...
2025-03-28
24 min
2Tokens Podcast
Episode 102: The Future of Tokenization with Alex Bausch & Jonny Fry
In this episode, Jonny Fry (TeamBlockchain) sits down with Alex Bausch (2Tokens) to explore the real-world adoption of tokenization and blockchain technology. They discuss how 2Tokens has supported industries like finance, energy, and logistics in leveraging digital assets to solve funding challenges—without the hype of early ICOs.From the Port of Rotterdam’s tokenized bills of lading to regulatory sandboxes and crowdfunding innovations, Alex and Jonny break down how blockchain is transforming traditional financial systems. They also highlight the 2Tokens masterclasses, which provide hands-on education for professionals looking to i...
2025-03-12
13 min
2Tokens Podcast
Episode 101: Why Blockchain is the Missing Link in Supply Chains
In this episode of the 2Tokens podcast, we dive into the commercial applications of blockchain technology, particularly in the supply chain industry. We're joined by Aljosja from Doc Lab and Juliun from Stability Protocol. The conversation is led by Jonny Fry, CEO of TeamBlockchain. Together they discuss how blockchain can enable the digital transfer of ownership for critical trade documents like bills of lading, inventory receipts, and certificates of origin. We explore the unique properties of blockchain that make it well-suited for these use cases, such as transparency, security, and reduced costs. The conversation also covers the l...
2025-02-27
24 min
2Tokens Podcast
Celebrating 100 Episodes: Insights from the 2Tokens Community - This is What We Learned
We’ve made it to 100 episodes, and what better way to celebrate than with an in-depth discussion on the future of blockchain and tokenization? In this special episode of the 2Tokens podcast, we bring together industry experts to explore key trends shaping the space.We've asked the experts in our community the following questions: 👉 How are business going to use blockchain to improve their operations? 👉 What trends do you think will influence the adoption of tokenization in 2025?👉 Why, or why not should companies embrace tokenization/blockchain to...
2025-02-13
17 min
2Tokens Podcast
Episode 99: Blockchain Meets Sustainability: SRECs, GOs, and Beyond
In this episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, our host Erich Schnoeckel sits down with industry leaders Jan Dijkstra from Greenivity and Robert van Mölken of ExoBlock to discuss the potential of tokenizing renewable energy certificates (RECs). Together, they explore how blockchain and decentralized technology can bring new levels of transparency, trust, and efficiency to the renewable energy market while empowering global communities.Key topics covered include:🌍 What are RECs, SRECs, and GOs? – Learn how renewable energy certificates work, their origins from initiatives like the Kyoto Protocol, and th...
2024-11-27
21 min
2Tokens Podcast
Episode 98: Optimizing Energy: Connecting to Real-Time Markets & Changing Behaviors
This episode of the 2Tokens podcast features an in-depth discussion on the energy sector and the role of new platforms and technologies. The speakers include Jos Roling, captain of the 2Tokens Energy working group, Kennard Brandenburgh, CCO of Distro Energy, and Edgar Kampers, CEO of Hypha Energy, which specializes in the governance of energy hubs and communities. This week's discussion covers topics such as the approach to optimizing energy usage by connecting to real-time markets and changing physical behavior, and the importance of involving end users in local energy production and consumption. The interaction between energy management s...
2024-10-23
24 min