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Abhijat Saraswat
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Fringe Legal
Responsible AI in Law: Building Frameworks, Use Cases, and Trust with RAILS
This episode explores the RAILS initiative, which focuses on the responsible use of AI in legal services. The guests discuss the origins of RAILS, its working groups, and the importance of ethical AI practices. They highlight recent outputs, including a risk management framework and various use cases, while emphasizing the need for AI literacy in the legal field. The discussion also touches on the future of RAILS and the ongoing evolution of AI in legal contexts.Thanks to our guests, Kelli Raker, Eli Makus, and Leigh Zeiser. Watch the video version here.Takeaways
2025-05-05
28 min
Fringe Legal
Practice, Profit, Power: James Markham and Darren Mee of The Legal MBA
In this episode of Fringe Legal, we host an engaging discussion with James Markham and Darren Mee, authors of 'The Legal MBA.' The conversation delves into their backgrounds, the inspiration behind their book, and its key themes. We discuss the importance of a broad business education for legal professionals, the integration of legal technology, and the practical applications of the knowledge shared in their book. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:29 Background of the Authors 01:05 Journey to Writing the Legal MBA 05:03 The Concept and Content of the Legal MBA 14:29 Target Audience for the Legal...
2025-01-16
37 min
Prompt Craft
Deep Dive - How Your AI Assistant Works
In this episode, we delve into how AI processes language and how we can improve our interactions with AI assistants. Using insights from the book 'How Your AI Assistant Works,' the discussion covers how large language models, or LLMs, recognize and interpret patterns in our language. The episode breaks down the AI's processing into three key stages, emphasizing the importance of clear and explicit instructions. Listeners will also learn about the AI's stateless nature and the concept of the context window, gaining tools to achieve better, more precise AI responses. Tune in to become a better AI whisperer...
2025-01-09
04 min
Prompt Craft
Mastering AI Communication
Mastering AI Communication: Bridging the Gap Between Human and MachineThis episode delves into the challenges of effectively communicating with AI, highlighting common pitfalls and misunderstandings. The discussion introduces the 'CLEAR' method—a framework designed to improve AI interactions by emphasizing Context, Language, Expectations, Actions, and Rules. Through detailed examples and practical advice, the episode aims to equip listeners with the skills needed to treat AI as a powerful but precise tool. It also explores the implications of AI's lack of memory and the potential future where AI can remember and learn from past interactions. By understanding th...
2025-01-07
16 min
Prompt Craft
Communicating with AI as Stakeholders
In this episode, we dive into the complexities of communicating effectively with AI, especially under tight deadlines and project constraints. We introduce the ADPT framework—Audience, Define the Role, Align the Task, and Provide Context/Tailor the Tone—as a guideline to enhance AI interactions. Through various examples, listeners learn how to craft precise prompts to avoid communication breakdowns. Additionally, we explore the inner workings of AI language models, understanding crucial concepts like tokens and hierarchical attention. This episode is a thorough guide for anyone looking to maximize their productivity and collaboration with AI tools.00:00 Introduction: The AI C...
2025-01-02
18 min
Prompt Craft
Unlocking the True Potential of AI with Structured Prompting
In this episode, we dive deep into enhancing AI interactions by utilizing the FORM framework—Frame, Organize, Reinforce, and Minimize. We discuss how structured prompting can transform AI from producing a 'jumbled mess' into delivering clear, actionable outputs. Using relatable analogies and real-life scenarios, we explore the importance of being specific in AI instructions. We also introduce advanced techniques such as template anchoring, instruction segmentation, and iterative refinement. This episode aims to empower listeners to control their AI tools effectively, turning frustrations into productive collaborations.00:00 Introduction to AI Frustrations00:57 The Power of Structured Prompting01:35 Understanding th...
2025-01-02
12 min
Prompt Craft
Welcome to Prompt Craft
Welcome to Prompt Craft - teaching you how to learning the language of AI. Learn the Language of AI to Transform How You Work. Master prompt engineering through fun, interactive challenges. Work faster, smarter, and easier.Prompting is a key skills which can massively improve your experience when using AI tool and increase your productivity. Join us on this show to learn key skills and learn how things work behind the scenes.
2025-01-02
01 min
Legal Innovation Spotlight
35 - Utilizing AI in Legal Tech: Real-World Challenges and Opportunities with Ab Saraswat
In this episode, we chat with Ab Saraswat about the challenges and opportunities of adopting new technologies, from AI tools to custom versus off-the-shelf solutions, offering actionable insights on navigating these decisions. Ab draws from his extensive experience in legal tech, including his current role at Lupl and his startup journey. Whether you're interested in AI tools like Copilot or broader legal tech trends, this episode offers practical advice and forward-looking ideas.In this episode, Ab shares insights on how to:Leverage AI tools for content generation and data analysisNavigate the build versus...
2024-09-04
51 min
Fringe Legal
Balancing Technology and Human Connection in Legal Services with Joey Seeber
In this episode of Fringe Legal, recorded live from ILTACON 2024 in Nashville, Tennessee, Ab sits down with JoeySeeber, CEO of Level Legal. Joey discusses the journey and growth of Level Legal over 15 years, starting during the Great Recession. The conversation delves into various aspects of building a business for longevity, maintaining a startup mindset in a small company, and delivering services in a human-centric way. Joey shares insights on their framework and principles for doing business, client feedback, handling competition, and the role of technology in enhancing efficiency. Read the episode takeaways at...
2024-09-04
21 min
Fringe Legal
Law Firm Revenue Management with Ayora.ai - The $36 Billion Opportunity
In this episode of the Fringe Legal podcast, host Ab interviews Stefan Ciesla, the co-founder and CEO of Ayora ai, a startup that focuses on helping law firms manage their revenues and improve the revenue management skills of fee earners such as attorneys and lawyers. Steven discusses the problem Ayora is solving in the legal industry and the role of lawyers as revenue managers. He explains that fee earners often have to make revenue management decisions throughout a matter's lifecycle, but they may not have the necessary skills or focus on revenue management. Ayora's smart lockup assistant...
2024-02-14
33 min
Fringe Legal
Building a tech-enabled culture in law firms
In this episode of the Fringe Legal podcast, host Ab chats with Conan Hines, Director of Legal Technology at Fried Frank, about building a tech-enabled culture in law firms. Conan shares insights from his previous roles at Clifford Chance and other law firms, highlighting the importance of understanding the role of legal technology and the psychology and behavior of users when it comes to successful adoption and change management.Conan emphasizes the need for building trust with lawyers and finding those who are curious and open to tech-enabled solutions. He suggests starting small with bite-sized engagements...
2024-01-16
34 min
Fringe Legal
Reinventing Associate Training with Abdi Shayesteh (AltaClaro)
While technology races ahead, improving legal training and education has lagged behind. Law schools excel at teaching students the law, but critical and practical skills development is often lacking. With the traditional law firm apprenticeship model fading, junior lawyers frequently lack opportunities to gain hands-on experience.Abdi Shayesteh, founder and CEO of the legal training platform AltaClaro, is on a mission to close this practical skills gap. Frustrated by the inefficiencies he experienced firsthand as a junior lawyer, Abdi has reinvented legal education and training. AltaClaro leverages experiential learning techniques rooted in education science to provide associates...
2023-10-12
43 min
Fringe Legal
Workflow Reimagined: How Generative AI Transforms Legal Operations
As part of our series of examining Generative AI in Practice, Fringe Legal spoke with Stephanie Corey, founder of legal operations consultancy UpLevel Ops, and Brandi Pack, UpLevel’s Legal Tech Analyst & AI Consultant. They share how legal teams can thoughtfully leverage generative AI to transform workflows, augment human skills, and futureproof roles. With proper governance and training, we can keep pace with the evolution of AI and maximize its potential.Show notes:Show Notes:[00:02:19] Getting early access to GPT-4[00:08:00] How are the Uplevel Ops team grew adoption internally[00:11:53] Pe...
2023-09-15
42 min
Fringe Legal
Moving Past The AI Hype - A Conversation With LexisNexis' Jeff Pfeifer
We sat down with Jeff Pfeifer, Chief Product Officer at LexisNexis during ILTACON 2023 to get his insights on legal AI progress, hype versus reality, increased law firm adoption, and the importance of demonstrating tangible benefits.Topics covered:Navigating the legal AI hype cycleAI’s potential to enhance legal workflowsGrowing law firm interest and hands-on explorationAvoiding the “trough of disillusionment”Real-world benefits driving adoption over hype
2023-09-08
29 min
Fringe Legal
Definely’s Blueprint for Disrupting Contract Workflows
In this episode of Fringe Legal, host Abhijat Saraswat interviews Nnamdi Emelifeonwu and Feargus MacDaeid, co-founders of legal tech startup Definely.Key Takeaways:Definely creates software plugins to simplify drafting, reviewing, and analyzing legal contracts in Microsoft Word using AI/ML.The idea originated from Feargus' need as a blind lawyer to access information in documents more easily.They validated demand with a scrappy prototype and early pilots despite its flaws.After leaving law firm jobs, their mission-driven approach focuses on access, efficiency, and transparency.Their blueprint for innovation includes launching an MVP, inclusive design thinking...
2023-08-14
30 min
Fringe Legal
Decoding ESG: A Practical Guide for Legal Teams
ESG (environmental, social, governance) factors have become essential considerations for companies seeking to manage risk, attract investment, and operate sustainably.Yet myths and misconceptions persist around what ESG is and how best to approach it. This leads many legal teams to view ESG as an amorphous compliance exercise rather than a strategic priority.Recently on the Fringe Legal podcast, Abhijat Saraswat interviewed ESG expert Kai Gray, CEO of advisory firm Motiv, to demystify ESG and offer practical guidance for legal professionals. In this episode, learn what ESG means and how legal teams can pragmatically...
2023-07-24
38 min
Fringe Legal
Why "New and Shiny" Tech Often Flops at Law Firms with India Preston
Summary:In this insightful episode of Fringe Legal, host Abhijat Saraswat has an in-depth discussion with India Preston, Director of Platform Solutions at legal tech startup Lupl. They delve into India's winding journey into legal project management, tactical approaches to driving adoption, and how to effectively challenge established processes.India shares learnings and advice drawn from her diverse experiences - from helping build out Linklaters' LPM function from the ground up to make the leap to an early-stage legal tech startup. She provides a rare longitudinal view of how legal project management has evolved from...
2023-07-14
32 min
Fringe Legal
Unlocking the Future of Legal Service Delivery: Insights from the LPPM Survey
In this episode, our guests Brad Blickstein, David Cambria, and returning guest Keith Maziarek join host Ab to discuss the findings from the 3rd Legal Pricing and Project Management (LPMM) Survey Report. They delve into the key challenges and trends shaping the legal industry, touching upon innovation, technology, client expectations, and the future of legal service delivery. Tune in to explore the data and analysis from the report, as these experts share their perspectives on the current state and future of legal operations.Key discussion points:[00:02:16] The current state of law firm investments in in...
2023-05-03
41 min
Fringe Legal
Smarter work allocation to increase lawyer retention
Professional services environments are stressful. Among the myriad of items to be juggled each day, you must manage workloads, managing the capacity of employees - what kind of work & how frequently work is allocated. How well this aspect is managed will impact performance, productivity, DEI, and retention. As part of our startup series, we speak with William Dougherty, Co-Founder of Capcity, a legal tech tool that looks to improve the allocation of work.In the episode, we'll discuss (numbers are time markers):What is Capacity → 1.48How is work allocated → 3.09Issues with the current approach to work...
2023-01-20
31 min
Fringe Legal
Legal tech ecosystem with Basha Rubin and Mirra Levitt of Priori Legal
The guest this week are co-founders of New York-based Priori Legal. Basha Rubin, the company's Chief Executive Officer, and Mirra Levitt, the Chief Product Officer, met as classmates at Yale Law School and found Priori. Earlier this year, they announced a funding round of $15 million. Priori works with in-house legal teams to connect legal departments with the right outside counsel for projects globally, saving them time and money. We discuss Legal Tech trends, their origin story, raising funds a Women Founders, and the secret sauce for successful legal teams.
2022-09-22
22 min
Fringe Legal
Setting up legal teams for success with UpLevel Ops
Legal operation teams have been increasing in popularity. In this episode, Liz Lugones and Sumi Trombley from Uplevel Opsshare why Legal Ops teams matter, why you should care, and how to leverage them to level up your legal team (in-house and at firms). Uplevel Ops are offering a complimentary 30-minute consultation, you can find more here. In the episode, we discuss:(03:12) Why should you care about legal operations (LegalOps)?(04:21) Law school vs. practice(08:12) Enabling fail-fast thinking in legal teams(11:11) It's not just about technology (16:32) Embedded in the organization(21:25) Creating space for creativity and ide...
2022-08-25
39 min
Fringe Legal
State of no-code in Legal with Jackson Liu
To supplement the release of the Fringe Legal no-code report, which provides 100s of hours of market research in 6-min, we speak with Jackson Liu, Chief Commercial Officer at Neota, about the state of no-code in legal. During the conversation, we discuss:How firms are using no-code toolsLeveraging no-code tools as a competitive advantageFocusing on the customer journey and adoption for long-term successNo-code challengesFuture of no-codeYou can read the full No-code report at www.fringelegal.com/no-code-report/
2022-08-06
31 min
Fringe Legal
Digital Transformation and designing the future of law with Kai Jacob
On this episode with speak with Kai Jacob - Partner at KPMG and Co-founder of Liquid Legal Institute - about digital transformation and designing the future of law. In the episode we cover (min.seconds):Introduction -> 0.20Enthusiasm vs adoption of technology -> 1.56Founding the think thank -> 3.24Facilitating cross collaboration -> 5.06Distributing projects equitably -> 6.04Designing the future -> 10.14Mental wellbeing -> 13.52Skills for future lawyers -> 21.54Being embedded with customers -> 27.12Highlights from the episode What is Liquid Legal InstituteWe consider ourselves a collaboration com...
2022-07-21
32 min
Fringe Legal
Value based pricing for law firms with Keith Maziarek
Lawyers and firms have long struggled to find the right way to price their services.The hourly billing model focuses on the amount of time spent on a matter, project, or case. This can often lead to inefficiencies and frustration for the lawyer and the client. Value based pricing is an alternative that takes into account the value of the service being provided rather than simply the time spent. It means that lawyers and firms are paid based on the results they achieve for their clients.The incentive becomes focused on getting better...
2022-06-21
37 min
Fringe Legal
Leading through a crisis with Alex Tsepko
Leading teams during times of crisis presents a unique challenge. Many of which are multiplied when you are a startup and the team was only formed months ago. And then, overnight, everyone suddenly felt very fragile. It's a unique feeling and unique in a bad way because suddenly you have no idea what to do. And the feeling is that you're very lost.Yet, that is exactly the challenge that faced Alex Tsepko, CEO of Lawrina - a website that provides useful content and productivity tools for lawyers. The entire team for Lawrina was in Ukraine, and t...
2022-04-27
15 min
Walchet Talks
Abhijat Saraswat | Litera Experience & Fringe Legal Podcast Host
In this chat with Ab we discuss his journey as a legal technologist. He candidly talks about his initial days at a legal tech start up XRef, the learnings from that job to his present role in Litera Microsystems, a large established legal tech company. We also discuss his experience in hosting the Fringe Legal Podcast which discusses the evolution of the practice of law. Interestingly, Ab has the unique experience of working with people from all over the world and he shares his views on the varied legal tech ecosystems in different countries. We also touch upon the...
2022-02-25
31 min
Water + Air Podcast
How To Turn Your Passion Into A Fabulous and Lucrative Career Lifestyle with Abhijat Saraswat
Welcome to the Water And Air podcast.In this episode, I'm ecstatic to welcome Abhijat Saraswat to the podcast.Abhijat is is a Senior Director at Litera, leveraging technology to improve retention and enhance the client experience. He is also the founder of Fringe Legal, a media brand producing cutting-edge content for legal innovators.We discuss various topics including why stacking to learn can be such an effective tool - if done in the right way; how blocking time in your calendar is essential to prevent burnout; and why managing energy levels successfully...
2022-01-26
24 min
Fringe Legal
Creativity in law firms with Dale Miller
What role does creativity play in a law firm and legal practice? "You can be creative in any industry and anything that you do. Creativity is a mindset. It's being open to new ideas, new trends that diversity of thought, as we mentioned, being willing to experiment and try things, seeing things through a different lens than people typically do. To me, that's what creativity really is. It doesn't mean you have to invent something new and be insanely innovative. It just means you can look at a lot of things that are out there and...
2021-12-17
32 min
The Self App Podcast
Abhijat Saraswat - Founder, Fringe Legal; Launching a Side-Hustle - Start Up Spotlight
This week we welcome Founder of Fringe Legal and host of the podcast of the Fringe Legal Podcast, Abhijat Saraswat, who takes us through his experience of launching a Side-Hustle.By day, "Ab" is a Senior Director for powerhouse global LegalTech Litera, leading the North American Large Law Practice, and previously leading all of Litera's International Business. A barrister by training, Ab eschewed a career practicing law, and now devotes his time to serving lawyers and the Legal profession through technology as an enabler of outcomes.Having just launched "Fringe Legal 2.0" which offers a content...
2021-11-24
39 min
Fringe Legal
The Future of Work with Matt Coatney
Matt Coatney is a seasoned C-level product and technology executive, entrepreneur, advisor, author, and speaker with 25 years of experience helping businesses and technology work better together. He has led divisions and portfolios for large global corporations, co-founded three companies and advised several others, been an early-stage employee of two successful tech startups, advised dozens of business and technology professionals across all stages of company formation and growth, and launched over a dozen successful products.Episode contentThe future of work ➡ 03.34How would work be delivered in the future ➡ 04.52Legal matters as projects ➡ 05.51(Alternative) career paths for lawyer...
2021-11-18
36 min
Fringe Legal
Implementing emerging technologies with Leigh Snider
Technology is a frequent topic of conversation. It comes up almost every single episode. And while it's fun to talk about amazing new tools or features, ultimately, you have to tie the tech back to the business strategy. Easy to say, difficult to execute.It's harder still when tracking and working with emerging technology, where there may not yet be a baseline for success. We tackle those points and so much more in the episode today.Episode contentWhat is IncuBaker ➡ 2.46Watching the market ➡ 4.04Client needs ➡ 5.03Tracking 500+ legal tech companies ➡ 6.17Tying tech to business objectives...
2021-11-05
36 min
Fringe Legal
Disrupting lawyer training with antiCPD with Quddus Pourshafie
On the podcast this week, I speak to Quddus Pourshafie, co-founder of antiCPD a new training business looking to flip the necessary evil of CPD on its head. They have a bold vision:Essentially, we want it to be the most AntiCPD CPD training you've ever seen. CPD is one of the least favorite activities of any lawyer, right? It's something that must be done, but no one particularly enjoys that period of time. Or if it's spread throughout the year most people tick it off. It's a checkbox item. And now that it's virtual and prerecorded people...
2021-10-28
18 min
Fringe Legal
How Legal Tech Innovation Can Drive Success in Your Firm with Azman Jaafar
In this episode, Ab speaks with Azman Jaafar, Managing Partner and one of the founding members of RHTLaw Asia on how legal technology can drive success in a law firm.This episode is a special segment to the article "How Legal Tech Innovation Can Drive Success in Your Firm" which was published in the Singapore Law Gazette in October 2021.
2021-10-21
18 min
Fringe Legal
Joyce Tong Oelrich on law firms as a subscription business
I don't think we thought that it was going to be as tough of a sell because most of our clients that we have worked with and that we know very well and know how they sell, how they operate, they're all SaaS companies. So they all sell, software as a service, which is a subscription model. And we thought this would be something that, of course, they would understand the benefits of it because they're saying to their customers, here's the benefit of a subscription. It's really hard, for the legal field to turn that corner because law traditionally ha...
2021-09-30
31 min
Fringe Legal
How to delight clients with Julia Salasky
Julia Salasky is the CEO of Legl, a digital workflow tool for law firms. "Solving problems that are fundamental to the way lawyers work enables lawyers to focus on the work that highly skilled professionals that they are can do best. I don't have a view as to whether in five years or ten years or 25 years, you can train AI to do those jobs, but the work that lawyers do is so varied, so technical, and so human-centric that enabling them to do that work in a way that allows them to focus on the highest value p...
2021-09-15
28 min
Fringe Legal
Thinking long term and staying client-centric with Adolfo Jimenez
Adolfo E. Jiménez is a Miami litigation attorney whose practice focuses on international disputes. Mr. Jiménez leads Holland & Knight's South Florida Litigation Practice Group, which consists of more than 80 attorneys, and also leads the firm's International Arbitration and Litigation Team. He is Board Certified in International Litigation and Arbitration by The Florida Bar. He handles general commercial litigation matters in federal and state courts. His international experience, language abilities and management skills provide innovative and comprehensive representation to clients involved in complex cases.We've spoken with technologists and innovators during previous podcast episodes, and this we...
2021-08-09
36 min
Fringe Legal
What GCs want from law firms with Anna Lozynski
Anna Lozynski is an award winning executive general counsel & author, turned Change Agent, Advisor and Influencer. Starting out at a major Australian law firm, she has spent the majority of her legal career in-house working in the banking, automotive, and cosmetics industries. In 2021, Anna has donned her entrepreneurial shoes and launched her own Advisory service, on a mission to help law and business adapt to the digital age. She is consulting in the areas of social media content creation, strategy & partnerships, legal ops/optimisation, change management, as well as coaching and general counsel freelancing.
2021-07-16
31 min
Fringe Legal
Transformation lessons from designing next gen cities with Ruben Vela and Matt Waldman
I spoke with Matthew Waldman (Founder, San-Q, and Professor Keio Graduate School of Design) and Ruben Fernandez Vela (Senior Researcher, Samcara research lab) on transformation and innovation lessons from designing next-gen cities.This was a fascinating chat, and much of the ideas we discussed could very easily be extrapolated for firms, in-house teams, indeed any business.Here are three things I took away:Planning for obsolescence and avoiding in-actionBalancing decision making and privacyFostering innovation is simpleOther resources mentioned during the episodeSamcara circular design labSan-Q consultancyProfessor Matthew Waldman...
2021-07-02
39 min
Fringe Legal
Peter Dombkins - transformation and looming legal revolution 🌩️
So Legal is coming late to the party on some of this, but at least it arrived very well dressed because we get to now pick and choose some of the best parts of project management, change management transformation, continuous improvement.Peter Dombkins is a national leader in legal transformation, legal operations, and the project management of legal professional services. He has received awards from the Financial Times and AIPM for change and legal practice management. Peter is Australia's first Adjunct Associate Professor in Legal Transformation, at the University of NSW Faculty of Law. Peter is...
2021-06-21
38 min
Fringe Legal
How a bunch of law students are solving the A2J problem
Mouthpiece Law is a student-run not-for-profit. As the world’s first legal education & technology platform, they connect and empower law students and legal professionals to form a legal aid task force and address legal needs through low-cost legal services.Avinash Pillay is the COO and Chief Legal Engineer at Mouthpiece Law.
2021-05-25
27 min
Fringe Legal
How to develop and launch a LegalTech startup with Len Hickey
Len Hickey is an IP lawyer and founder of Litigaze a case evaluation tool for modern legal teams that enables the evaluation of complex cases using intuitive visual planning.You can find out more about Litigaze at and connect with Len Hickey on LinkedIn.
2021-05-10
17 min
Fringe Legal
Build, Buy, or Invest with Elani Buchan of MDR Lab
Elani is a leader in building high-growth startups through streamlined operations. After earning her master's from King's College, London, and serving more than two years at the Peace Corp. Elani spent almost a decade helping emerging tech companies develop, optimize and scale their operations marketing, and people processes. Elani is now the venture program manager at MDR Lab.TopicsWhat is MDR Lab (1:55)Three different arms of MDR lab (2:33)Build vs buy - which gives you the biggest return on your investment (3:54)How does MDR decide which companies to have in the accelerator? (5:12)How the Launch...
2021-04-22
30 min
Fringe Legal
Delivering quick time to value using AI tools with Jim Chiang of My Legal Einstein
Jim Chiang is the founder of My Legal Einstein, an AI-powered legal contract review tool. “So when you think about a time the value of that to actually have that much of a limiting factor in terms of getting to some point of value, you could have done a stand why Legal AI hasn't really gained a huge amount of adoption. So My Legal Einstein really is intended to have a user who never actually has heard of My Legal Einstein.They actually go onto a site, they register, they log in and then the...
2021-04-12
20 min
Fringe Legal
Performance optimization for lawyers and general counsels
Parul Patel is the founder of Fuel and Move, a consultancy that helps Partners of law firms and General Counsels develop their teams and lawyers for performance optimization. “So performance optimization means that you're delivering at a high level of performance, but you're not, it's not coming at the expense of exhaustion burnout, a lot of these things that we see quite prevalent within the legal sector.”“So we're just focusing on the technical skills and the technical knowledge and forgetting really about: when greatness shines, greatness comes from the inside, from each in...
2021-03-29
36 min
Fringe Legal
Matthew Golab - why successfully introducing artificial intelligence in legal tech is a challenge
Why successfully introducing artificial intelligence in legal tech is a challengeMatthew Golab is the Director of Legal Informatics and R+D at Gilbert + Tobin. He leads a specialized in-house multidisciplinary legal informatics team that utilizes a variety of data analytics and eDiscovery, and other AI technology tools. Matthew has more than 20 years of experience in the legal technology industry, including two of Australia’s preeminent law firms.If you've been in the legal profession for any amount of time, then I'm sure at some point, someone will have to...
2021-03-23
35 min
Fringe Legal
Rasmeet Charya - Using technology to maximize the value of legal services
Rasmeet Charya is the Chief Innovation Officer at Algo Legal. As Chief Innovation Officer, Rasmeet brings a strong passion for transforming how law firms and lawyers work with clients and think about innovation. From understanding problems, curating ideas, and facilitating innovation processes, Rasmeet leads a team that focuses on analyzing how technology can be used by the firm to enhance transparency, increase access, create efficiencies, and offer a new brand of service.Algo Legal is a new law firm, established in 2019, and the firm has started with a strong foundation in technology.
2021-03-10
27 min
Fringe Legal
Giles Thompson on challenging the status quo
Giles Thompson is the Head of Growth @ Avvoka 📈, former lawyer at Kirkland & Ellis and Herbert Smith Freehills ⚖️, Agriculturalist & Foodie 🚜, and tech investor & entrepreneur 🚀 Giles left practice a year ago to join the world of legal technology, and during this conversation we discuss:How the culture has shifted from his days in practice vs what he hears todayThe challenge of collaboration and different approaches firms are takingPertinent skills/thoughts for future and newly qualified lawyers, and when to challenge the status quoWe covered a number of other topics as...
2021-03-02
26 min
Fringe Legal
Jan Hards - making the move from lawyer to innovator
Jan Hards is the Director of Legal Innovation at Johnson Winter & Slattery. After years of practicing as a Corporate M&A Lawyer at Freshfields in the UK, and then later at Johnson Winter & Slattery, he made a deliberate move to become the firm’s Director of Legal Innovation. We discuss how Jan worked through that decision, what were some assumptions that he made, and some of the challenges. We also explore how Jan and the business look at the innovation function - through five objective criteria:Cr...
2021-02-21
50 min
Fringe Legal
Floor Blindenbach - Innovation management for law firms
Innovation management helps to optimize the innovation process, identify bottlenecks and increase the productivity of innovation, investment, and resources.Floor Blindenbach is the founder of Organizing4Innovation. Trigged by a recent whitepaper, I speak with Floor to discuss her views on innovation management for law firms. We spoke about:the importance of treating innovation as a processdefinition for innovation'the role of culture in driving innovative effortsInnovation as a way to develop talentthe problem of tracking/measuring innovation efforts in law firmsbest practices for innovation teamsYou can find the whitepaper here: https://www.organizing4...
2021-02-14
35 min
Fringe Legal
Alice Stephenson on breaking down barriers
Alice Stephenson is a founder and tech lawyer driving inclusion and innovation in law and promoting individuality within the legal profession.Alice founded Stephenson Law in 2017 to create a law firm that does things differently. Tackling each stereotype head-on, she is on a mission to build a forward-thinking, innovative law firm that puts people at the heart of everything it does. Alice's goal is to inspire young women to challenge the perceived barriers to success and see that anything is possible.In this episode we discuss:07:23 - Problem-solving11:00 - Self-reflection a...
2021-01-30
27 min
Fringe Legal
Innovation and Transformation Perspectives From Around the World
Innovation and Transformation Perspectives From Around the WorldAb: [00:00:00] Innovation and transformation perspectives from around the world There is tremendous variability in how the legal industry approaches innovation and technology initiatives, and the range is greater still when you expand the scope to different jurisdictions and regions worldwide. Through a series of interviews with innovation leaders and a review of published materials. I explored some of the factors that influence innovation levels across different regions. Namely, we focused on the UK., a number of African nations, Australia, and India. Wha...
2021-01-17
19 min
Fringe Legal
Contracting mistakes with Alex Hamilton
Contracts are crucial to the legal process, however more frequently the process of contracting can be painful. In this episode we discuss how to remove unnecessary barriers from contracts while offering the same protections, benchmarking the performance of your contracts, and Alex’s reflections on 10 years since founding Radiant Law. Key quotes Quotes have been extracted from the live conversation and have been edited for grammar and minor corrections. “looking now from where we were 10 years ago when obviously no one was doing that and you know we were one...
2020-12-17
29 min
Fringe Legal
Alex Low on leveraging LinkedIn to build your brand
Alex Low is an expert in helping businesses implement and adopt marketing and sales strategies. He regularly speaks to experts through his podcast The Death of a Salesman and applies the principles at BeyondSales and DLA ignite. Oh and he's worked in the BD function at PwC, as Client Relationship Manager at BLP (now BCLP), lead Client Dev at JLL, and more. In this episode we discuss: Why good marketing and a strong personal brand has never been more importantHow to implement a marketing transformation strategy how corporate content vs individual content is consumedsource: dlaignite.comHow you...
2020-12-07
29 min
Fringe Legal
Janet Stanton - Benefits of a Strategic Client Management Program
In this episode of Fringe Legal, host Abhijat Saraswat speaks with Janet Stanton.I reached out to Janet after having read her article on the importance of strategic client management. We discuss the topic in detail including what it means, the benefits for individuals and the firm, implementation advice, and pitfalls to avoid.Janet is an accomplished business person who brings her experience from diverse industries and professional service organizations to bear on issues currently facing Law Land. Prior to Adam Smith, Esq., Janet was Director, Client Relationships Program at Orrick. Previously, she served as...
2020-12-03
31 min
Fringe Legal
Making innovation everyone's business with Allister Spencer
Making innovation everyone's business with Allister SpencerInnovation has as many definitions as the number of people you ask to define it. Regardless of what you think of as "innovative," the execution needs to permeate the business. Abhijat Saraswat speaks with Allister Spencer on how to make innovation everyone's business. In this episode, we’ll go over:Review the state of the unionearlier this year firms put their hand brakes on; some thrived, some fell apart. What drove this? What were the differences between segments (law firm sizes, law firms vs. in-house lega...
2020-11-23
28 min
Fringe Legal
Networked - how a group of women came together to write a book during Covid-19
On this episode of Fringe Legal Edge – host Abhijat Saraswat speaks with six outstanding women.There are each uniquely impressive, but all have one thing in common. They met (as well as 14 others) through a Linkedin networking group at the beginning of the pandemic. This one act led to the writing of an anthology of their struggles, experiments, and triumphs.Ab speaks with Winter Wheeler, Shari E. Belitz, Esq., Lisa Lang, Laura M. Gregory, Esq., Deb Feder, and Christon Halkiotis.Their stories are endearing; they show authenticity, talk about insecurities, confidence, and about wh...
2020-11-15
32 min
Fringe Legal
Chatter #2 feat. Vincent Michetti
Chatter is a special episode where Abhijat sits down with Vincent Michetti to discuss 3-5 varied topics. In this episode they discuss: Deloitte buys Kemp Little: Deloitte UK has bought the law firm Kemp Litte, which adds 86 lawyers (inc. 29 partners) to the legal roster for the company. We've been through this before, throughout the 1990s the Big Five accounting firms (as they were at the time)—Arthur Andersen, KPMG, Ernst & Young (EY), PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC), and Deloitte—made a concerted effort to enter the legal services market. It was relatively successful but was shut down following a wave of accou...
2020-11-08
30 min
Fringe Legal
Solving the Last Mile Problem for the Utilisation of Legal Technology
Ab: Hello everyone. And welcome to this experimental episode. And this episode will be using machine learning too. read out one of the articles I've written in the past. Probably will be getting a few of these in the coming months. So please do let me know what your thoughts are and excuse any mispronunciations from the ai you can find the full text of the article on fringe legal.com and as always love to hear your feedback. Enjoy.AI narrator 1: This is the audio version of an article, read by your friendly neighborhood artificial intelligence.
2020-10-05
10 min
Fringe Legal
Eric Laughlin on the rigidity and plasticity we can expect from technology
Eric Laughlin is the CEO of Agiloft - the no-code contract and commerce lifecycle management software company. I think, as everything changed, people had to have had sort of two insights: one insight is that the world changes more rapidly than I even thought that it could. And then the second thing is, I, as an individual, as a human, was able to adapt more quickly than I thought that I might've been able to. And that sort of plasticity that we discovered in the world and in ourselves, I hope has allowed everybody to...
2020-10-03
32 min
Fringe Legal
Ray Bierderman on innovation, cloud and working with in-house/outside counsel
Ray Biederman is an experienced litigator with nearly two decades of experience removing obscurity from the eDiscovery process for other attorneys and corporate resources. Ray is the President and co-founder of DiscoveryMaster.co, CEO of Proteus Discovery Group, and Partner at Mattingly Burke Cohen & Biederman LLP.most people went to law school to practice law and not to practice technology, or practice updating Excel spreadsheets all the time. It's like the rule of 80% rule, right? You cover 80% of what the needs are, and then the other 20%, either custom build or figure out a workaround for i...
2020-09-15
18 min
Fringe Legal
Adrian Camara of Athennian on fundraising during the pandemic, growth and more
Adrian Camara is the CEO of Athennian. Athennian is a legal entity management software for in-house teams and law firms.
2020-09-11
16 min
Fringe Legal
Global innovation viewpoint - initiatives & projects sprouted during the pandemic
This is a replay from the Fringe Legal Virtual Summit held earlier this year. This panel brings together four leading knowledge managers and innovators to discuss some of the projects they have started or have seen sprouted in crisis situations.The panel will bring together a world view as we'll be joined by Thao and Priti is the US (New York and Chicago respectively), Barbara in Brazil, and Terri in Australia.On the panel were: Priti Saraswat, Bárbara Gondim da Rocha, Terri Mottershead, and Thao TranThis was recorded as a...
2020-08-27
1h 15
Fringe Legal
Fringe Legal Edge with Vincent Michetti
Ab and Vincent sit down for the first of the monthly “chatter” segments on Fringe Legal during which they discuss the Epic vs. Apple/Google saga, California vs. Uber and Lyft, and the upcoming Microsoft Surface Duo device.You can watch the video version of the recording here: https://www.fringelegal.com/august-chatter-with-vincent-michetti/You can Vincent Michetti on LinkedIn.
2020-08-23
31 min
Fringe Legal
Mick Sheehey on data driven decision making
Mick Sheehy joined PwC as a partner in October 2018 to build and run PwC’s Australian NewLaw practice, focussed on providing strategic consulting, technology, and outsourcing solutions to legal departments. Mick is a recognized international leader in the field of legal innovation and transformation, having won numerous international legal innovation awards and with his work the subject of a case study for Harvard Law School. Mick founded and chaired the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium Australia, an industry body established to share best practice legal operations and innovation knowledge. Mick is a director of Fitzroy Legal Servi...
2020-08-17
41 min
Fringe Legal
Andrea Miskolczi on Innovation and Transformation
Andrea is a visionary leader with a passion for combining digitalisation with human potential. She has 20+ years of experience in the legal business both as a transactional lawyer and as a leader for various business areas (marketing, business development, innovation, and legal tech). If you haven't already, be sure to subscribe to the Fringe Legal Newsletter to get 3-5 interesting ideas delivered every Sunday. Join 530+ people. It's free. Join at www.fringelegal.com/newsletterSummaryWhy every legal professional needs to know about digital transformationWhat does Innovation mean to Andreamany people mix up innovation...
2020-07-23
32 min
Fringe Legal
Alma Asay - KM and Innovation at the Am Law 200 firms
Alma is an Evangelist at Litera. Alma is a legal technology expert and trusted advisor to Litera clients, helping them to bring innovative ways of thinking and practice to life. Previously, Alma was the Chief Innovation Officer, Legal Solutions, at Integreon Discovery Solutions. Alma joined Integreon as part of its acquisition of her litigation management software business, Allegory, where she was Founder and CEO.Alma has been researching the prevalence of knowledge management and innovation roles across the Am Law 200 firms. In this episode:we go through her findings which were frankly shocking to t...
2020-07-19
26 min
Fringe Legal
Bonus: Ben White lessons from interviewing over 200 in-house counsel
This is an audio version of the talk Ben gave as part of the Fringe Legal Virtual Summit 2020. You can watch the video version here: https://summit.fringelegal.com/talks/ben-white-results-of-over-200-in-house-counsel-interview/
2020-07-13
54 min
Fringe Legal
S3E10 Mike Whelan on legal supply chain
Mike Whelan, Jr. We think we understand the complexity of the supply chain, but that complexity in a weird way, feeds efficiency, cost control, and quality in a way that we just wouldn't expect. We think we're all artisans. And of course, in a big firm, [and] in law school, we're taught to be sort of artisanal. Mike has worked in logistics, solo law practice, and legal media. He teaches about the overlaps between those activities and what they mean for attorneys and the companies that aim to serve them.Through hi...
2020-06-29
41 min
Fringe Legal
S3E9 Dr Allan McCay on Neuroscience, Ethics and Criminal Law
Dr. Allan McCay has a PhD in Law (University of Sydney), is an admitted solicitor in Scotland, Hong Kong, New South Wales, and Tasmania (Australia). He is an author of several books, and teaches at the University of Sydney Foundation Program and will again be lecturing in Criminal Law at the University of Sydney Law School in semester 2, 2020. And so, on that view, it seems like the human consciousness doesn't seem to add much because ultimately human decision making is algorithmic and as these algorithmic machines are getting better and better they will surpass us...
2020-06-22
53 min
Fringe Legal
S3E8 Chrissie Wolfe of Law and Broader
Chrissie Wolfe is a solicitor in Irwin Mitchell's international personal injury team, specializing in claims arising outside of England and Wales. She also runs the YouTube channel, Law and Broader.In this episode you'll learn about:Chrissie’s interesting path to law, including homeschoolingGoing from bad A-levels, pivoting from studying biology to lawHow Chrissie saw a need for content to be delivered in a specific way (YouTube/video) and just dove right in. The thought process behind it, and how she was able to grow her channel to over 3k subscribersSkills important now and those that ma...
2020-06-11
39 min
Fringe Legal
S3E7 Katrina Gowans on managing change
It's really important to spend that initial time on the vision. The 'why are we doing it?' And, the next sort of stage for me was them saying - the technology that we were adopting was really just a tool to get us on that vision. It's not the solution, because we're the solution. Like how we use it is the solution, but here's the tool that we're going to start with for us on our vision.Then there was a lot of planning. The next thing is really being quite studious, really detail-oriented about planning, and planning s...
2020-06-04
43 min
Fringe Legal
S3E6 Karina Vazirova on chess, regtech and disruption
In legal, to me, it will be about the challenger law firms... just have to flip a few things upside down. And, introduce a disruptive new model of doing business in this space. And that will happen in law, and you see this already, you see this with, for example, Deloitte legal, coming out. And there are a few new-law law firms, as well that are in this space and are trying different models. We recorded this conversation in Feb 2020, and of course, the world changed dramatically since then. As an accompaniment, I would recommend watching Karina’s t...
2020-05-28
49 min
Fringe Legal
S3.E5 Sam Moore of Burness Paull on skills for future lawyers
Sam leads business transformation projects across every division of Burness Paull. In particular, Sam helps teams within the firm to identify opportunities for automation and/or augmented workflows, making sure that Burness Paull takes full advantage of innovations in legal technology in delivering our services and delighting our clients.There's an old saying that there are three kinds of work in the world: there's good work, there's fast work, and there's cheap work - you can pick any two you like. And I, I think, increasingly what we are trying to do with professionals is we're trying to...
2020-05-21
36 min
Fringe Legal
Bonus: Shannon Desmarais - practicalities of returning to work
when we come back to work, it's going to be really interesting how we'll be able to help support the remote worker as well as those that, want to maintain some level of tradition.Shannon is a successful outsourced solution professional with 25 years of law firm experience. Shannon has been with Canon 21 years originally serving as the Midwest Operations Manager for 10 years where she and her service team implemented and managed some of our largest and most innovative law firm accounts. Having been a Facility & Services Manager for a national law firm prior to joining Canon, Shannon has th...
2020-05-11
16 min
Fringe Legal
S3.E4 Maziar Jamnejad on the spectrum of innovation in legal practices
I'm not sure that AI has changed what we do more than electricity did, and somehow they [lawyers] were able to absorb that. So actually, you know, where's the gap, we always assume they can't absorb technology, but maybe they can. Maz will also be speaking at the 2020 Fringe Legal Virtual Summit, where he will expand on many of these items. Register at www.fringelegal.com/summitif you look at the time spent on talking about the subject versus the number of real-world effects, it's not what you'd expect.quite a lot of lawyers see that j...
2020-05-01
47 min
Fringe Legal
S3.E3 Torsten Torpe on Legal Tech Innovation
In 2015, Torsten joined the M&A Corporate department of the international law firm of Bech-Bruun as a project coordinator. Not long afterward, Torsten got involved in the development of Bech-Bruun’s legal tech projects and, for the past few years, has been one of the driving forces behind the implementation of AI and document automation software across the organisation. In January 2019, Bech-Bruun launched its 2022 Strategy and this involved Torsten being appointed Head of Legal Tech Innovation and in charge of developing and implementing new innovative services and products in collaboration with clients and the rest of Bech-Bruun's organisation....
2020-04-23
39 min
Fringe Legal
S3.E2 Love Legal speaks with Fringe Legal
People don't love legal and, if we can help people to love the legal process, um, I think that's, that's really where it [the idea] came from.In the episode today we cover:How Love Legal got their start How making improvements to the design can help people to love the legal processWhat are some of the considerations when thinking about the consumer point of view, especially for B2C or B2B2C businessesWe do also specifically talk about (and speculate) on what might be the future of Will writing, estates law, and execution using i...
2020-04-16
43 min
Fringe Legal
S3.E1 Legal Upheaval with Michele DeStefano
The call for innovation is really a call for service transformation in disguise. What clients are really asking for is a different way of servicing and working with them, and that in itself is an innovation in terms of process. We kick off the third season of the podcast with the fantastic Michele DeStefano. The basis of this episode is exploring some of the ideas behind Michele's book - Legal Upheaval.We talk about:What clients are asking for from lawyersHow GCs and Corporates feel about the service being received by their lawyersThe call for service t...
2020-04-09
51 min
Fringe Legal
S2.E10 Jan Roggen of Adhemar Law on change management and practical innovation
In 2012, Jan Roggen founded Adhemar.law, a Belgian environmental and real estate boutique law firm, recognized by clients, peers and legal 500. In 2015, he started exploring new service, delivery models. While doing so, he learned that he did not have the required business skills to effectively drive and lead innovation in the firm. So he took the leap and moved to Canada with his family to study innovation management at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario while managing the firm remotely. During his stay in Canada, he saw the Raptors win the NBA Championship and obtained additional certifications in Le...
2020-03-12
38 min
Fringe Legal
S2.E9 Talking Legal Transformation with Kim Lewis
Kim Lewis is the Legal Transformation Manager at Gilbert + Tobin. At the end of the day, it all comes down to clients. That's what we're doing. It's delivering a service to clients so how we deliver that service. What happens to all legal advice once we give it to the client is a really interesting point. Kim is a UK qualified lawyer and consultant in the Legal Service Innovation team at G+T. She designs solutions for lawyers, working closely with deal teams to project manage and streamline large-scale projects, creating efficiencies and qual...
2020-02-27
48 min
Fringe Legal
S2.E8 Discussing the transformation of the legal industry with Isabella Galeano
Isabella Galeano is the founder of The Technolawgist. She is head of legal at Abertis Mobility Services, legal tech and legal innovation consultant and Director of the Legal Tech Programme at Esade Law School. Her mission is to contribute to the transformation of the legal industry and to inspire lawyers around the world.I mean, changing is always scary. Changing is always difficult, but the cost of not changing, that's scarier to me at this point.Show notesIsabella has a great breadth of knowledge, and we explore a number of...
2020-02-13
36 min
Fringe Legal
S2.E7 Creating new business opportunities using no-code platforms with Jackson Liu of Neota Logic
In recent years, there has been an increase in the number of no-code application development platforms being available. Specifically, there has been an uptick in the adoption of these platforms within the legal profession.In this episode, we speak with Jackson Liu on Neota Logic to get a primer on no-code application development. A trend that we're seeing with professional service firms and law firms is that they would build a solution or a product for a particular client and then realize we can actually market this product or this application more broadly. Through the no-code p...
2020-01-30
40 min
Fringe Legal
S2.E6 Changing Landscape of Australia Legal Technology with Stewart Rasmussen
On the show today, we have Stewart Rasmussen. Stew is a friend, a technologist, and someone who is extremely knowledgeable about the Australian market, especially the legal segment.He's previously worked for the likes of Phoenix Business Solutions in the UK and APAC, served as the Head of Client Services APAC for HighQ, and most recently was the Director of Legal Technology for KPMG Australia. Stew was at KPMG when we recorded this conversation in 2019 - all views are his own and not those of his employers. Just a quick note to say...
2020-01-16
34 min
Fringe Legal
S2.E5 Knowledge Management Q&A with Allison Hosking
Allison Hosking is the Head of Knowledge Management at Al Tamimi & Co where she oversees a team responsible for all aspects of the firm’s knowledge management strategy across their 17 offices. Prior to joining Al Tamimi, Allison worked for over a decade for a magic circle law firm as a senior knowledge and learning manager working in their London, New York and Dubai offices. She is a qualified lawyer and has worked and practised in several jurisdictions including Chile, the USA and India. Allison has a university teaching qualification, is a Fellow of the Higher Education Academy and...
2020-01-02
37 min
Fringe Legal
S2.E4 Nina Gratrick on Technology Transformation and Evolution of IT Service Delivery
Nina Gratrick is the Head of IT Services at the global law firm of Watson Farley & Williams.Nina Gratrick An experienced Service Delivery Manager with a demonstrated history of working in the legal industry at a global level. She's a skilled resource manager capable of crossing the divide between technology and people; facilitating engagement at all levels. A coach, a mentor, an agent for change within organisations, supporting people, process and technology transformation to reshape the vision of IT services and support.We talk about how the evolution of IT service delivery, and how by...
2019-12-19
44 min
Fringe Legal
S2.E3 Laura Collins Scott of Clifford Chance's On Leading The Create+65 Innovation Lab
Laura Collins Scott is the Innovation Lead for Clifford Chance in Singapore. In this episode we talk about Laura experience on leading the Create+65 Innovation Lab in Singapore. Laura Collins Scott began working with Clifford Chance in 2017 when she was initially engaged to define the strategy and business plan for Clifford Chance Applied Solutions.Laura founded BB Consulting in 2016 to help incumbent companies and start-ups design and build innovative products for their customers. SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW: iTunes // Spotify // Pocket Casts // Stitcher The three take away...
2019-12-05
41 min
Fringe Legal
S2.E2 Peter Buck of NetDocuments on tackling multi-teaming
On this episode we have Peter Buck, VP, Product Strategy at NetDocuments. The core of the conversation focuses on tackling multi-teaming - the effects of having multiple people working on multiple projects simultaneously. We pivot then to focus on productivity, discussing how it can be measured and the impact of constant context switching, discussing against the background that it takes one around 25 minutes to reach full productivity, but people are interrupted every 3 minutes!Art (culture and perception) and science (data and engineering supporting the argument) of product designMulti-teaming: people working on multiple projects simultaneously, which has many benefits...
2019-11-21
23 min
Fringe Legal
S2.E1 Maya Markovich of Dentons Nextlaw Labs on Catalyzing Innovation
Welcome to the 2nd season of the Fringe Legal podcast. In the first episode we speak with the Maya Markovich, Head of Product at Dentons Nextlaw Labs. The core theme of the episode is all around innovation; we cover three broad categories:The 3 different pillars of NextLaw labs, and how innovation can take the robot out of the lawyerHow do you catalyze innovation? What that means, and the importance of becoming the connective tissue across the firm/businessImpact of legal tech on access to justice Thanks to Maya for taking the time, and also to...
2019-11-07
39 min
Fringe Legal
Season 2 Trailer
A sneak peak into Season 2 of the Fringe Legal podcast. Episode one of the second season comes out of November 7, 2019. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to be notified of new episodes.
2019-11-05
02 min
Fringe Legal
S1.E10 Clarissa Rayward on finding happiness in the practice of law
Clarissa Rayward, also known as ‘The Happy Family Lawyer’, specialises in helping couples stay out of Court and work together to reach a resolution to their relationship breakdown. A practising family lawyer,she is the Director of the Brisbane Family Law Centre, a multidisciplinary practice. Clarissa is based in Brisbane, Australia is a speaker, author, and hosts the popular podcast “Happy Lawyer, Happy Life”.SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW: iTunes // Spotify // Pocket Casts // Stitcher Some of the items we cover in the episode include (numbers are time codes):How Clarissa went from studying ma...
2019-05-10
36 min
Fringe Legal
S1.E9 Thao Tran on crowdsourcing ideas, the importance of mentorship, and embracing the KM role
In this penultimate episode of season one, I speak with the fantastic Thao Tran. Thao is the Knowledge Manager at the international firm Fried Frank. She's based in New York, and is also the Member Liaison for ILTA in NYC.Thao has a unusual route into knowledge management, and in exploring how she got there, we learn ways that can help break into a new role, crowdsource ideas and separate the signal from the noise.At the end of the episode, I was left with a few pages of notes (and Thao even suggested a...
2019-05-03
42 min
Fringe Legal
S1.E8 Nicola Shaver on design thinking for lawyers & law firms
Nicola Shaver is the global Director of Knowledge Management at Paul Hastings LLP in New York. In her role, she focuses on opportunities to optimize processes and introduce tools that will improve efficiency and productivity, and on leveraging the firm's intellectual capital to better serve clients.Nicola has worked in the legal services industry for over 15 years in three different jurisdictions. Nicola is passionate about finding innovative solutions to existing problems, building a culture of innovation within law firms, and instilling an empathic approach to design.SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW: iTunes // Spotify // Pocket Casts // Stitcher ...
2019-04-26
38 min
Fringe Legal
S1.E7 Angela Dowd on developing an innovator's mindset
Angela Dowd is the Director of Practice Innovation for the law firm of Burns & Levinson LLP in Boston, Massachusetts. In her current role with the firm, she is works with practice groups and administrative departments to increase efficiency and streamline business processes. She has also been active member of the International Legal Technology Association (ILTA) for many years, speaking at the annual conference. She is in her second term on the Board of Directors, currently serving as President. In addition, she has spoken at Association of Legal Administrators, Legal Marketing Association and the Law Firm Alliance conferences. ...
2019-04-19
37 min
Fringe Legal
S1.E6 Paul Domnick on the changing landscape of the legal profession
Paul Domnick is President of Litera Microsystems, having been President of Litéra Corp from 2014 to 2017. He brings unique insight into the utility of the Litera Microsystems’ risk management solutions having previously been CIO of Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer for five years. Before taking on this role in early 2007, Paul was head of global IT sourcing for Zurich Financial Services.SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW: iTunes // Spotify // Pocket Casts // Stitcher Paul is such a font of knowledge, and has so many great stories which distill some of his learnings. I segmented our conversation in exploring Pauls’ past (being a CIO...
2019-04-12
54 min
Fringe Legal
S1.E5 Tom Haines on autonomous privacy first timekeeping
Thomas Haines is a software engineer and entrepreneur . He is the CEO/Founder of Practice Insight and he currently works on the company's latest tool - WiseTime, an autonomous, privacy first timekeeping software. Tom holds a BSc, LLB (Hons), and LLM, and has qualified as a solicitor, barrister and Australian registered patent attorney.SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW: iTunes // Spotify // Pocket Casts // Stitcher This was an interesting conversation, speaking with someone who has had quick a varied background starting with working as part of Apple's sales team, going on to study computer science, practicing law and then fo...
2019-04-05
43 min
Fringe Legal
S1.E4 Andrea Markstrom & Meredith Lonner on being women leaders
Andrea Markstrom serves as Blank Rome’s Chief Information Officer, responsible for leading Firm-wide technology and security initiatives across all of Blank Rome’s practices and geographies. Andrea also started the Women Leaders Networking Group in New York, and would welcome any questions and provide more information anyone interested. Meredith Lonner is the Administrator at Franklin, Weinrib, Rudell & Vassallo, P.C. a leading boutique law firm based in New York City specializing in entertainment law. SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW: iTunes // Spotify // Pocket Casts // Stitcher Andrea and Meredith are from very different f...
2019-03-29
43 min
Fringe Legal
S1.E3. Stevie Ghiassi on Blockchain Disrupting Legal
Stevie Ghiassi is CEO of Legaler, a secure online communication and collaboration tool for lawyers, CEO of Legaler Aid, a blockchain-based legal aid service that promotes access to justice, as well as President of the Australian Legal Technology Association.SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW: iTunes // Spotify // Pocket Casts // Stitcher Stevie wears a number of hats, and most recently he published the viral book Blockchain for Lawyers. Rather than talking about the ins-and-outs of blockchain technology, instead we focus on what learning about matters and the impact it will have on the legal profession.We cover th...
2019-03-22
45 min
Fringe Legal
S1.E2. Kate Simpson on intrepreneurship, and disrupting from within
Some of the items we cover in the episode include:Kate’s move from being a consultant to law firms, to working in a law firm.The concept of ikigai, and the venn diagram of Kate’s viewpointspeoplelawtechWhat does KM mean to Kate, and how she segments her projects into four buckets:Research & development (innovations)Precedents and playbookTrainingPractice innovation (process + pricing)Entrepreneurship and Intrepreneurship at Bennett JonesThe importance of being curious and listeningKate’s advice to embrace ambiguity, and taking calculated risksPlease subscribe, and if you enjoyed the episode help me by leaving a review.
2019-03-15
46 min
Fringe Legal
S1.E1. ILTA CEO, Joy Heath Rush on the changing legal landscape
Joy Heath Rush is the CEO of International Legal Technology Association, and a industry veteran. SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW: iTunes // Spotify // Pocket Casts // Stitcher In this this inaugural episode of the podcast, we speak with Joy about her views on the changing legal landscape. Amongst other items, we discuss testing assumptions she had about the ILTA community, trends she's seeing in the legal profession, and what firm leaders can put into action immediately to make a noticeable difference. SHOW NOTESSome of the items we cover in the episode include:The...
2019-03-08
48 min
Fringe Legal
Season 1 Trailer
A sneak peak into Season 1 of the Fringe Legal podcast. Episode one comes out of March 8, 2019. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to be notified of new episodes.
2019-03-01
02 min