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Refactoring Podcast User-experience, Local-first apps and dev tools 🔧 — with Adam WigginsToday's guest is Adam Wiggins! Adam is the General Manager of Platform at The Browser Company and co-founder of Heroku. With Adam, we talked about innovating user experience in software and AI, we discussed what Local-first software means and we explored the future of developer tools. (02:49) Introduction (04:01) Adam's journey in tech (06:15) The rise of developer experience (10:03) The constant drive of improving UX (12:07) Dia & The Browser Company (14:49) Using AI to improve UX (20:38) Unlocking potentials through UX (25:18) Local-first software (32:34) Data ownership (34:31) Web development and complexity (38:03) AI and the future of development (40:25) The iteration loop — This episode is brought to you by https://wo...

2025-02-0748 min

Coffee with Developers Reflecting on Heroku's Growth, and Looking Forward to the Future of Tech - Adam WigginsOn this episode, we spoke with Adam Wiggins - co-founder of Heroku, to reflect on what it was like in the early days of the platform, and to consider what the future looks like, and technology is shaping it.----------------------------------------Welcome to WeAreDevelopers, the #1 developer community in Europe! This is your one-stop destination for the latest tech insights, tutorials, and career advice to elevate your developer career.Stay updated Dev Digest, with our weekly newsletter featuring the most recent tech trends, career guidance, and original content crafted by developers, for developers.

2024-10-0727 min

localfirst.fm #11 – Adam Wiggins: Local-first Conf 2024The guest of this episode is Adam Wiggins, who is the founder of Heroku and one of the co-authors of the local-first essay by Ink & Switch. As Adam is also a co-organizer of the first local-first conference, this conversation will reflect on the event, share our learnings and discuss a couple of key topics such as a new definition of local-first software. Mentioned in podcastAdam Wiggins: x.com/_adamwiggins_ + adamwiggins.comBrowsertech Digest Trip Report: Local First ConfAlice and Bob in wonderland. Bootstrapping identity and authority in a world without servers.Links:

2024-07-021h 02

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast How To Hire AI Engineers — with James Brady & Adam Wiggins of ElicitEditor’s note: One of the top reasons we have hundreds of companies and thousands of AI Engineers joining the World’s Fair next week is, apart from discussing technology and being present for the big launches planned, to hire and be hired! Listeners loved our previous Elicit episode and were so glad to welcome 2 more members of Elicit back for a guest post (and bonus podcast) on how they think through hiring. Don’t miss their AI engineer job description, and template which you can use to create your own hiring plan! How to Hire A...

2024-06-211h 03

Inside Cyclones Hockey Cyclones Lose on Home Ice for First Time This Season - Brand New Playoff Merch, Bobble Head Night & Players Only w/ F #27 Adam WigginsWelcome back for S3E27 of Inside Cyclones Hockey.It was a rough weekend for your Clones, despite coming up just short in an instant classic Saturday night.As they say, we're on to St. Louis!Weekend Recap & Highlights w/ PxP Voice Jake Sennholz:25 - 16:17Wiener Dog Race Recap, New Playoff Merch, Bobble Head Night, Deal of the Week & More w/ Zach Serwe 17:43 - 30:15Players Only w/ F #22 Adam Wiggins31:03 - 44:54See Adam's career profile here: https://www.wausaucyclones.com/player-profile/?player_id=11715&league_i...

2024-02-0648 min

CSP Hot Hands: 60 minutes of 🔥008: Adam StockAll the links: http://linktr.ee/csp60 Host Brett Wiggins interviews Adam Stock in our eighth episode. Adam brings 25 years of experience in the financial industry to the pod. He has worked with 100's of leaders in the Cutco community and continues to proudly serve them. We dive into the most common mistakes entrepreneurs make when starting a business, our only limiting resources, how to view your worth per hour, "schlubmuffins" and how not being one is your key to never having to "find" leads again among many other topics that we found...

2023-12-041h 03

Metamuse 83 // End and beginningBittersweet news is the topic of this episode. Adam Wulf and Adam Wiggins discuss the end of an era for Muse, leadership transitions, and what the future holds for Muse 3.0 and beyond. Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes An end, and a beginning Ink & Switch Adam Wulf Loose Leaf Here, File File prosumer Industrial research with Peter van Hardenberg Netlify proxy, Webflow, Hugo Managing Transitions: Making the Most of Change

2023-08-311h 00

Metamuse 78 // Local-first, one year laterIt's been a year since Muse 2.0 launched. To help commemorate this anniversary, Adam Wulf once again joins Mark and Adam Wiggins to do a technical deep-dive on Muse's sync architecture. They discuss the benefits such as less ops burden and good developer experience; and challenges such as event vs state based data, handling different app schema versions, and the tradeoffs of a content-aware server. Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes Developer Duck The Pragmatic Programmer Metamuse episode 56: Sync Muse 2.0 Muse for Teams Local-first software Pingdom ...

2023-05-041h 05

PodRocket Product design with Adam WigginsCo-Founder and former CTO of Heroku, Adam Wiggins, joins us to talk about product design, research, remote work, and productivity. Listen now. Links https://twitter.com/_adamwiggins_ https://mas.to/@adamwiggins https://adamwiggins.com https://adamwiggins.com/making-computers-better https://www.inkandswitch.com https://www.heroku.com https://museapp.com Tell us what you think of PodRocket We want to hear from you! We want to know what you love and hate about the podcast. What do you want to hear more about? Who do you...

2023-03-0740 min

Storyline Church - Arvada Romans (Part 33) - Romans 13:8-14 - Sermons - Adam Wiggins - 2.19.23 This past Sunday, Adam Wiggins encouraged us to respond to what we believe. Because we believe the gospel is true, Romans 13 tells us to love others, live with urgency, and pursue the good life that is in Christ.

2023-02-1937 min

Inside Cyclones Hockey Cyclones Blaine Super Showcase Full Preview! - Players Only w/ #27 F Adam WigginsWelcome back for S2E20 of Inside Cyclones HockeyToday Jake and Zach preview the upcoming NA3HL Super Showcase including opponent stats and numbersCyclones Christmas Gifts w/ Zach Serwe:23 - 10:14Showcase Preview w/ Jake Sennholz11:10 - 19:03Players Only w/ Adam Wiggins 19:36 - 34:01Thank you to our friends/partners - Fleet Farm, APEX Learning, Four Seasons Screen Printing, Bug Tussle Wireless & HockeyTVTake advantage of the Busch Light CLONE ZONE! Watch a Cyclones game from the best seat in town while enjoying complementary s...

2022-12-0734 min

Changelog Interviews Beyond Heroku to MuseThis week we’re back for part 2 with Adam Wiggins — going beyond Heroku and the story of Muse (listen to part 1). After a six-year adrenaline high on Heroku, Adam needed time to recover and refill the creative well. So, he moved to Berlin, did some gig work with companies…dabbled in investing and advising. But he wasn’t satisfied. Adam likes to build things. Ultimately, he was just waiting for the right time to reconnect with James Lindenbaum and Orion Henry — the same fellas he created Heroku with. Eventually they founded Ink & Switch, an independent research lab which led...

2022-11-111h 50

Changelog Master Feed Beyond Heroku to Muse (The Changelog #514)This week we’re back for part 2 with Adam Wiggins — going beyond Heroku and the story of Muse (listen to part 1). After a six-year adrenaline high on Heroku, Adam needed time to recover and refill the creative well. So, he moved to Berlin, did some gig work with companies…dabbled in investing and advising. But he wasn’t satisfied. Adam likes to build things. Ultimately, he was just waiting for the right time to reconnect with James Lindenbaum and Orion Henry — the same fellas he created Heroku with. Eventually they founded Ink & Switch, an independent research lab which led...

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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source Beyond Heroku to Muse (Interview)This week we’re back for part 2 with Adam Wiggins — going beyond Heroku and the story of Muse (listen to part 1). After a six-year adrenaline high on Heroku, Adam needed time to recover and refill the creative well. So, he moved to Berlin, did some gig work with companies…dabbled in investing and advising. But he wasn’t satisfied. Adam likes to build things. Ultimately, he was just waiting for the right time to reconnect with James Lindenbaum and Orion Henry — the same fellas he created Heroku with. Eventually they founded Ink & Switch, an independent research lab which led...

2022-11-111h 50

Changelog Interviews The story of HerokuThis week on The Changelog we’re joined by Adam Wiggins, co-founder and former CTO of Heroku, for an exclusive trip down Heroku memory lane. Adam and Jerod are both tremendous fans of Heroku and believe (to this day) they represent the apex in developer experience for delivering code to production. We talk through the beginnings of Heroku, the v1 most people have forgotten about, the era of web hosting back in 2008-2010, the serendipity of Silicon Vally in those days, pitching to Y Combinator, the makings of git push heroku, the Heroku style and name, the sa...

2022-11-041h 41

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source The story of Heroku (Interview)This week on The Changelog we’re joined by Adam Wiggins, co-founder and former CTO of Heroku, for an exclusive trip down Heroku memory lane. Adam and Jerod are both tremendous fans of Heroku and believe (to this day) they represent the apex in developer experience for delivering code to production. We talk through the beginnings of Heroku, the v1 most people have forgotten about, the era of web hosting back in 2008-2010, the serendipity of Silicon Vally in those days, pitching to Y Combinator, the makings of git push heroku, the Heroku style and name, the sa...

2022-11-041h 41

Changelog Master Feed The story of Heroku (The Changelog #513)This week on The Changelog we’re joined by Adam Wiggins, co-founder and former CTO of Heroku, for an exclusive trip down Heroku memory lane. Jerod and I are both tremendous fans of Heroku and we believe (to this day) they represent the apex in developer experience for delivering code to production. We talk through the beginnings of Heroku, the v1 most people have forgotten about, the era of web hosting back in 2008-2010, the serendipity of Silicon Vally in those days, pitching to Y Combinator, the makings of git push heroku, the Heroku style and name, th...

2022-11-041h 41

The Swyx Mixtape [Weekend Drop] Career+Luck with Adam Wiggins - MetamuseI was super honored to join Adam Wiggins (cofounder of Heroku's) podcast to share thoughts on tools for thought, LIP, and Creating Luck.Full show notes on Metamuse: https://museapp.com/podcast/53-career/

2022-05-221h 04

Metamuse 56 // SyncThe foundational technology for Muse 2 is local-first sync, which draws from over a decade of computer science research on CRDTs. Mark, Adam Wiggins, and Adam Wulf get technical to describe the Muse sync technology architecture in detail. Topics include the difference between transactional, blob, and ephemeral data; the “atoms” concept inspired by Datomic; Protocol Buffers; and the user’s data as a bag of edits. Plus: why sync is a powerful substrate for end-user programming. Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes Adam Wulf @adamwulf Fantastical Loose...

2022-05-121h 22

Design Details 427: Tools for Thought ft. Mark McGranaghan and Adam WigginsThis week, we sat down with Mark McGranaghan and Adam Wiggins to talk about building creative tools, designing across devices and platforms, creating career capital, starting design podcasts, and more.Golden Ratio Supporters:Zeplin lets designers spend more time on design, and less time prepping design files for the team. Effortlessly build user journeys with native connectors, flow groups, and text labels — no more maintaining extra layers in your design tool. Zeplin is so much more than just specs — get started for free to see why.The Sidebar:The Sidebar is an e...

2022-02-031h 10

Danielle Newnham Podcast Adam Wiggins on Community, Creativity and Improving ComputingToday’s guest Adam Wiggins, probably most well known for being co-founder of Heroku – a platform as a service that enables developers to build, run, and operate applications in the cloud.On his website, Adam describes himself as someone who is working to improve computers in service of human creativity and prosperity which I love and this is very much a theme that weaves its way throughout our conversation. Adam’s current focus is on Muse - a tool for thought app that was spun out of his research lab – Ink And Switch. Currently for iPad, Ada...

2022-01-1858 min

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders S5 E30: Adam Wiggins, MuseAdam Wiggins was from California originally, but has lived in Berlin for the last decade. Earlier in his life, he did burning man art installations and was a DJ. Now, he is a middle aged family man, so he focuses on his family, his daughter, his adorable dog and his career/software projects. His partner is also an immigrant, whom he met while in Berlin.Adam loves Berlin, and in fact, loves European cities in general, for their focus on quality of life. He mentions that in the states, there is a large amount of economic freedom b...

2022-01-0437 min

Metamuse 19 // Progress with Jason CrawfordJason Crawford writes about the history of technology and the philosophy of progress. He joins Mark and Adam to talk about technologies like messenger RNA vaccines, nanotech, and supersonic jets. Plus society-level questions like whether we are in a period of stagnation, how we fund maverick ideas, and why we need hubris. Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes Jason Crawford / The Roots of Progress / @jasoncrawford Fieldbook A Small Matter of Programming We Need a New Science of Progress The Torch of Progress — Ep. 13 with Adam Wigg...

2020-12-1057 min

Money Matters Top Tips with Adam Torres Adam Torres interviews Tom Wiggins Co Author of Money Matters Business Leaders Edition Vol #2Adam Torres interviews Tom Wiggins Co Author of Money Matters Business Leaders Edition Vol #2 in this episode. Follow Adam on Instagram at Ask Adam Torres for up to date information on book releases and tour schedule. Apply to be interviewed by Adam on our podcast: https://www.moneymatterstoptips.com/podcastguest

2019-12-1112 min

Idea Machines Rethinking R&D with Adam WigginsMy Guest this week is Adam Wiggins, the cofounder of Ink & Switch — an independent industrial research lab working on digital tools for creativity and productivity. The topic of the conversation is the future of product-focused R&D, the Hollywood Model of work in tech, Ink & Switch's unique organizational structure, and whether it can be extended to other areas of research. Links Adam Wiggins' Home Page Adam on Twitter Ink & Switch's Home Page A presentation on Ink & Switch's Structure Sloan Review Article on...

2018-12-1851 min

Running with the Bulls Andrew WigginsMe talking about Andrew Wiggins and the trade to Cleveland what the Cavs can expect with Kevin Love Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2017-12-2806 min

Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots 104: Maintaining The Meat Machines (Adam Wiggins)On this weeks Giant Robots Ben welcomes Adam Wiggins, Heroku co-founder and former CTO, to join as more of a guest host than guest. They discuss team size/structure, project scalability, the benefits of working abroad & self-maintenance best practices. Adam Wiggins Heroku "2 Dudes Talking" podcast genre discussion How to Scale a Development Team Good Software Takes Ten Years. Get Used To It. The E-Myth Revisited Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom Support Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: It’s part of the foundational history of sketch of like facing this enormous monopolistic late 2000s Adobe, and now that the sketch success and define the category in the market, which then in turn attract more players and then because we chose a different path in the business and in growth, now there’s new juggernauts again. 00:00:27 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for deep work on iPad and Mac...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I remember the last time we did a paid upgrade, we had a feature done for almost a year before we actually shipped it because we knew it’s such a huge feature that will bring in new customers and make it easier for them to understand why they have to pay again. 2.5 years ago, we switched to a subscription-based business model. And this is also switching company development culture that you suddenly have to ship updates or fe...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: You can also be notified just based on an algorithm, you know, if somebody files something that’s similar to your trademark to trigger a notification to you. The interesting thing about the trademark office, at least from a government perspective, is it’s the most government 2.0 out there in the sense that the data is publicly available and can be downloaded every single day. 00:00:24 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. M UUE is a to...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Here’s my number one tip for listeners of this podcast episode. The most unreasonably effective thing to do in recruiting is to move quickly, especially as a small company where you have the ability to do that. 00:00:16 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for deep work on iPad and Mac, but this podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about the small team and the big id...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think every platform kind of has this tipping point where you start to see like, hey, this feature, this product is getting a lot of traction, and people building on any platform should realize they are doing R&D for the primary platform at all times. Every feature you release, every experience you have is an opportunity for the original platform to be like, hey, that’s a great idea. 00:00:29 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: You want to achieve mastery in some sense in your life. So all these things come together and for some people, community becomes very addictive. I’ve certainly been in communities about products and games, where the game or product became a. And the importance because the community in itself just became my main driver to come back to this group of people nerding out about something that I wasn’t even using or playing all that much, but...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: This ends up becoming a question about file standards more than it does about application functionality. I can take a notion document and fairly easily translate that into a text file, a very linear document format. There’s currently not really a file format for spatial canvas. Right now there’s just not a good way for Muse to talk to another spatial canvas app. 00:00:30 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think designing is just the process of picking the best option that you have gone through, but you need to go through that process. The more time that that process takes and the more expensive that process is, the less you experiment and you just fall back and you default to what we know. But that’s not where great ideas often come from. 00:00:24 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a to...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Infinite canvases are essentially like a different document format. The screen represents a camera that’s floating above a surface, and there are things on that surface, and those things can be anything. You can move them, you can duplicate them or resize them, and that each one of these types of thing on the canvas also has its own rules about how it can be changed. 00:00:26 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Us as...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: The importance of solo activity in the ideation process. This is not well supported in existing tools. I think it’s so important that you have a place where you’re just thinking by yourself. That might be because you’re generating the initial ideas that you’re going to bring to the bigger group, or it could be you have some intermediate products from the group and you want to take that back to your private sanctuary and mark...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Titles of books are probably one of the best sources of inspiration for messaging. Book covers are so inspiring to me because it’s a visual and a title and the title’s so short and it captures the entire thesis of the book. 00:00:22 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for deep work on iPad and Mac. This podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about the small team and...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: The iPad is the perfect device of being able to immerse yourself and just being able to explore versus the Mac is all about getting things done and about speed and efficiency. If we embrace that, we naturally end up with apps that are quite different. 00:00:24 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad and Mac, but this podcast isn’t about Muse the product. It’s about the...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Support is one important way that you’re understanding how customers are experiencing the product and what you should be doing differently going forward. And at a more human and personal level, I think it’s important for motivating the product work, hearing from individual people about their desires for the product is quite motivating. 00:00:24 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad and Mac. This podcast isn’t abou...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: People are drawn to you for your specific skill set that only you can fill. There’s a U-shaped hole in the universe and you’ve created that gravitational pull that people find you. And I think as far as careers go, the more unique you are, the more unsubstitutable you are, the better compensated you will be and the more you enjoy your job, to be honest. 00:00:23 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: A product launch needs to prepare and calibrate the potential user for how much the world is going to get shaken up by this thing. So Muse 2, it’s still muse, but it’s a major version change, so prepare for a moderate amount of novelty in your life. 00:00:21 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad and Mac. This podcast isn’t about Muse t...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: What I look for when I’m hiring designers or what’s the experience of encountering a stranger on the internet. I like this phrase proof of curiosity. Is this person curious about the world, but curious in a way where they take action on that curiosity, and that can manifest itself in lots of ways. One way is, you tweet about it, right? Like you learn something, you tweet about it. 00:00:32 - Speaker 2: Hello and welc...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: When I think of real world analogies to this, like supporting a painter or a ceramicist or like glass making that’s kind of handmade, usually those things are more expensive than the Walmart equivalent. But in software, it’s kind of inverse, where the subscription to Microsoft 365 is going to cost you a lot more than your indie text editor. 00:00:24 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Us is a tool for thought on iPad...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Also something that makes it very unique is this like you’re you’re basically floating through space and you’re zooming deeper into your hierarchy and all of this is like a perfect illusion of seamlessness when it’s actually not seamless at all. 00:00:22 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Use a software for your iPad that helps you with ideation and problem solving. But this podcast isn’t about Muse, the product, it’s about...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think you can think of writing on the internet as a beacon, as a way to signal yourself to other like-minded people. These pieces of yourself that you put out on the internet, and they allow you to create this that serendipity engine where like-minded people can find you. 00:00:26 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for deep work on iPad and Mac. But this podcast isn’t about Muse th...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Being able to do important and deep work in a world where information is not scarce, but abundant, not only abundant, but so abundant that it essentially becomes a problem. Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a software for your iPad that helps you with ideation and problem solving. This podcast isn’t about Muse product, it’s about Muse the company and the small team behind it. My name is Adam Wigg...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think it’s important to deliberately not decide too soon what you’re gonna do in that situation, cause you need time for the existing structure of your brain to basically disintegrate a little bit, like, let those pathways fade away, let the daily patterns of thinking and doing melt away, and create some space for new ideas and new ventures to enter. 00:00:28 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for ...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: We’ll just say that I’m so happy that you are taking this forward and making sure this product not only continues to exist and be maintained, but indeed to grow because there really is nothing like it out there for unstructured thinking. Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for deep work on iPad and Mac, but this podcast isn’t about Muse product, it’s about the small team and the big...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: With spatial computing, there’s a level of trust that the user is placing in you as a developer that most software developers have not had to handle. On a phone, if the app crashes or freezes, it’s annoying, but it’s not going to make you sick. It’s not going to viscerally affect the central nervous system. Whereas in the case of any immersive software, it will. You’re going to directly put their brain in a state...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: We have to make sure that if you’re a brand new obsidian user, it feels accessible, it has infinite depth, and you can go as deep and crazy as you want, but that that surface level is intuitive and inviting to most people, and that’s a really hard thing to balance. 00:00:23 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Us as a tool for deep work on iPad and Mac. This podcast isn’t about...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: A theme that runs through all of this, whether it’s a big company or a small team, is it’s really about building our collective knowledge. We can extract all the most relevant pieces of information from everyone’s domain and bring them together. From that comes a plan that we all feel ownership for, and then when we go off to do our heads down work, we’re working off that shared plan where we for a brief...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: No one would ever write a blog post or a book by hand or on a typewriter in 2023. Yet reading still pretty much takes place in the physical world, at least nonfiction, 90% of nonfiction reading is still paper books, and so our lofty ambition would be, we’ve created such a better reading experience using software that people are motivated to switch and read digitally. 00:00:28 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a to...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: To borrow the Hobbit, one does not simply build a new sync layer. You start with a product and you want to build a sync layer, and now you have two products. You had a huge undertaking to build this kind of a system on the server and on the client and should not be a default answer, I think, for anyone, and it was not our default answer, but I think it worked out and was the...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: You’re saying come dream with me a little, and if you get too much into the fantasy world, it becomes almost religious, and that’s where you get something like a WeWork happening. But when you can make the argument in a coherent way and are able to earn parts of that argument, then that come dream with me can be extremely compelling and can take outsiders along for the ride with you. 00:00:30 - Speaker 2: Hell...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: My experience as a team lead is that if your team is aligned going into a project, you get this incredible execution. It’s fun to do, you know, maybe hard work, but you’re all rowing in the same direction, you’re seeing those results when you put the pieces together, they’re all harmonious. Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for deep work on iPad and Mac, but this podcast isn’t ab...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Often when you ask an expert who’s accumulated a large amount of experiential data around a problem area, they’re fabricating an answer. They actually have way more information than they could possibly convert into a verbal symbolic language, and the inability to articulate something doesn’t mean that there isn’t knowledge there, right? Taste is real and experience is real, and you can have a lot of knowledge that can be extremely difficult to articulate. 00...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: It’s very common that you want 3 views. You want a view which is temporal, what is the team working on this week? You want a view that’s personal, what is Mark thinking about right now? What does he want to have at hand. And then there’s a view which is subject base. What is the design of our sync system? And what link cards allow you to do is to have any given thing appear in eac...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: There are a lot of other projects that have very similar models to this dynamic land database, but it definitely pushed me to think a lot more in terms of having state exposed by default, ambiently, and the value of being able to make little quick debugging tools that can piggyback on this global state. That was a super influential model on the way I think about programming and the way I think about debugging, this idea of...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Everyone gets into a room, you have a brainstorm and out comes the ideas. The reality is so much messier. You have individual to group back again, you’re bouncing around among individuals, you’re bouncing around among different levels of fidelity. The ideas get mutated, even corrupted, if they get passed from person to person. Almost like this pulsating network, right? With all kinds of weird patterns happening is what’s really needed to produce good ideas. So the...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: We can do the basics that Spotlight can do, but also much better. We invested a lot in the speed to make it faster to launch. We invested in file search to search files in a more predictable way. And then when you have those basics, then there’s the question, what else can you bring to this so you can start navigating and controlling your computer in a new way. 00:00:26 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: One thing that really stood out to me reading the original research article was that so many pieces of software I try out, they don’t really feel inspired, doesn’t feel like there was like a real driving passion behind like why this had to come into the world. 00:00:21 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is software for your iPad that helps you with ideation and problem solving. But this podcast isn’t abou...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think that the future is not determined. I think that it is up to us, and I think that we should always believe fundamentally in the ability of human intelligence when properly applied to solve problems. 00:00:17 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad, but this podcast isn’t about Muse the product. It’s about Muse, the company and the small team behind it. I’m Adam W...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: What I think happened was that you got people who knew how to bend and to mold computers and software in the same place as people who were very efficient and effective and curious and playful around things like design and getting things done, and had real needs, right? And sort of that’s some biases there, I think is what drove Mac OS to become such a successful platform. 00:00:29 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Me...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: So I think there’s space and the good thing is that niches are powerful now because niches are big enough. So if you only solve a smaller problem, but you solve that really well, you have a shot at that. 00:00:17 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad, but this podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about Muse the company and the small team behind...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: The moment when you decide to no longer do your own support. Naively, you think, oh, that’s taking so much time. Primary reason to make that decision is to spend more time on the product as a developer, perhaps. But the side effects is that you lose all these direct touch points with your users to the filtering of features of what’s really important. 00:00:25 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a to...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: There’s so many zillions of startups trying to try every single angle and opportunity in that area. And so the marginal return to investing your personal time in terms of the impact on the world might be relatively smaller there. Whereas there’s this whole space that I feel like is really under explored. And if you just make it about 80%, making a profit and 20% making a statement, that opens up all kinds of incredible opportunities. 00...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Cause there’s more to tapping to other people’s minds and sending something and asking for feedback. But listening to feedback through allowing other people to create in the same space that you create with the right people can definitely feel magical. 00:00:18 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Use as a tool for thought on iPad. This podcast isn’t about the product, it’s about music company and a small team behind it. I’m...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Curious is interesting because of course you can describe your mindset as a user of Muse, but it could also apply to the software itself. And I do think there’s an element of Muse is a little bit weird. It’s a little bit different, it’s a newcomer, and it takes an approach that no other app has really taken before. 00:00:22 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for though...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: The entrepreneurial drive or in this case the entrepreneurial drive of feeling agitated, there’s like a problem or a thing that just seems wrong or weird or annoys you and you just can’t stop thinking about it and you look for solutions, but none of them really quite seem to fit. Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad. This podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Digital tools which were supposed to give us a creative canvas that was more flexible, that was easier to use, actually constrained us quite a bit because as you said, I almost had to decide what’s going to be the final format. What is the output going to look like before I actually know what the output is going to look like, and I have to make this decision upstream of working on something. 00:00:26 - Sp...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I actually say mostly seriously that games in the world of gaming predicts a lot of trends. So it goes from kind of pro games to mainstream games to consumer software to software for startups to software for enterprises. 00:00:21 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. U is a tool for thought on iPad. This podcast isn’t about Muse product, it’s about Muse the company and the small team behind it. I’m Adam W...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: To us, it’s very important that we design this all holistically. There’s a lot of research, for example, on cryptography schemes that assume key management or on collaboration product designs that assume the server can just read all the data. And in order for this to work with Muse, we need all of the product design, the collaboration technology, the key management, the cryptography, the mental model for how people think about documents that all need to l...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think at some point I would love to go back to just work on, I don’t know, album artwork, or just lock myself away in a cabin and just draw typography. But for now, I feel like there’s some stories I want to tell. And for some of those stories to really resonate, they need to be put into people’s hands and experience. And so until I’ve told those stories, I feel like there’s...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: The purpose of design is really to marry the kind of far out there crazy ideas with what can be practically achieved and serve some practical function. 00:00:16 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad. This podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about Muse the company and the small team behind it. My name’s Adam Wiggins. I’m here today with my colleague Mark McGranag...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I cannot overemphasize the first run experience, that’s when you have the most energy and the most enthusiasm and momentum coming from the user. 00:00:14 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad. This podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about Muse, the company and the small team behind it. My name is Adam Wiggins, and I’m here today with my colleague Julia Rogats. 00...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: So we think a lot about how do you give agency back to people, but we think about if this is your web browser, this is your operating system, this is your home on the internet, how do you feel agency over Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. 00:00:16 - Speaker 2: Muse is a tool for thought on the iPad. This isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about Muse the company and the small team behi...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: There just really doesn’t seem to be an effective concrete practice for taking like day to day insights and accumulating them, like rolling them up into a snowball of novel ideas. 00:00:16 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is software for your iPad that helps you with ideation and problem solving. This podcast isn’t about Muse product, it’s about Muse the company and the small team behind it. My name is Adam W...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think the process is just inherently much messier than that, and you need to let go a little bit and say the tool is going to help you make this stew, and then you’ll sleep on it for a few days and then somewhere else, something new will pop out. Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is software for your iPad that helps you with ideation and problem solving, but this podcast isn’t about Muse...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Mark McGranaghan: Uh, so I, I imagine something like that from you where you can pick, you know, your favorite black ink, your favorite highlighter, your favorite accent pen, put them in your little toolbox, and you have this small, very curated palette that you can swipe in and out when you’re actively working on a document, and you’re not confronted with like the Photoshop style 200 buttons, most of, most of which you don’t know what they d...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I view my job here is to essentially aggregate this group of entrepreneurs that a lot of the world is overlooking, aggregate them in some way, listen to them, and then build what they want. 00:00:19 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad, but this podcast isn’t about Muse the product. It’s about Muse the company and the small team behind it. I’m Adam Wiggins here w...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: There’s been very little innovation and research more generally into what is a good interface for inputting equations. So I think most people are probably familiar with Microsoft Word or Excel have these equation editors where you basically open this palette and there is a preview and there is a button for every possible mathematical symbol or operator you can imagine. 00:00:28 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: And I don’t hold this against Apple or anybody else. There are billions of people on Earth who need great computers, and most of them are not scientists or authors or policymakers, but we believe that this has left a gap where there just simply isn’t a major computing group that’s actually focused on how to use computers in this intelligence amplifying way. 00:00:25 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: We both really, really like writing and are good at it, and care a lot about the written quality of the product, and we both also have this product DNA where we’ve built software products before, and we know how that works, and we’re trying to figure out if you put those two things together, what can you make? 00:00:23 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: One of the characters is a poet that evokes much emotion with his work, and one of his fans asks, how do you do it? How do you come up with these words that are so moving? And he says, well, the key is the poet has to speak the words that are already in the person’s heart. Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad. This podcast isn’t ab...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Building my own tools, when I type a character in or hit save, I know exactly where the bits are going, and I think that changes the relationship that you have with your software. There’s kind of a power dynamic where if you don’t know what the company that’s providing you some software products is doing with your data, they have the power, whereas if you build your own thing, you understand exactly what’s going on...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: And I feel like this idea of really changes the abstractions that operating systems should provide because maybe OSs should not just be providing this model of files as a sequence of bytes, but this higher level CRDT like model and how does that impact the entire way how software is developed. 00:00:23 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad. This podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Also, in your field that you say, OK, I need this programmer with this designer and together with them and the right vision, we can build something. I think it’s very similar with film production. We all work at the end of what’s possible, and we want to go beyond. 00:00:23 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad, but this podcast isn’t about Muse the produc...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I really wish there are more ways in which we can let our personality and just the little bits of life that we’ve experienced ourselves come through online. It seems like nowadays a lot of the larger sites that we spend time on have all taken an approach for good reasons to in some way flatten our voices to make everything look the same. 00:00:27 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a to...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Which by the way, something that’s a little bit unique to digital systems versus classic analog systems, you know, if your wrench is rusty or doesn’t work as well, but it still basically works as a wrench, whereas if you have one bit off in your software, just crashes, you know, you’re out of luck. 00:00:21 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Us is a tool for thought on iPad and Mac. But th...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Maybe the past generation of programmers were sort of subjected to a really awful version of visual programming, but it would be really sad to let that frustration that other people have felt ruin what visual programming could be in a much better design format or just done in very different ways, done in ways that combine graphics and text. 00:00:24 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: You start with some seeds of an idea. Basically, it might be some sketches or a picture of a whiteboard you took or a voice memo, and what you want to end up with is, say, an essay, and there’s several steps to the creative process. And one of the things that’s exciting about the new text feature plus blocks is you can see it as a trellis for that growth. 00:00:23 - Speaker 2: Hello and...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Rather than giving someone this hermetically sealed box, can we use an analogy like build a beautiful Lego set for them and hand it to them, where if they like it just as it is, that’s fine. And if they want to add one Lego right there, it’s not a big deal. They sort of see the composition of how this thing was made, they have a little bit of flexibility to tweak it because it’s made...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: Something I really admire about Tokyo is that they are able to, while it’s a very desirable place to live, the housing costs in Tokyo are actually not that high, and people are pretty liberal about tearing things down and building new things, and it seems almost like a cultural love of newness, and people are always excited to like rebuild and create a new thing in the place where an old thing stood. 00:00:29 - Sp...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I do think there’s a distinction between velocity and virality that’s important to make, right? Like a good book can go viral, a podcast can go viral, it just will go viral slowly, be a slow spread, and I think that’s actually kind of a goal is to have potentially like a low velocity, a high virality. 00:00:21 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad. ...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I think that the lack of interoperability or standardization between digital tools today really it means that all work created within a tool is confined to that tool, and to me that seems very clearly antithetical to creativity and specifically the collaborative aspect of creativity. 00:00:28 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad. This podcast isn’t about Muse the product, it’s about Muse the company and the...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: What I believe, which is that a product that comes with the manual implies it has depth, that it fits together with being a professional tool, where probably the things you want to do with it are things that require skill and take time to learn, even separately from the tool itself. Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Use a software for your iPad that helps you with ideation and problem solving. This podcast isn’t about Muse th...

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Metamuse Discuss this episode in the Muse community Follow @MuseAppHQ on Twitter Show notes 00:00:00 - Speaker 1: I can really empathize with it because even in my own sort of maths degree, I really struggled with terminology and notation. And I think a big problem in kind of maths education generally is that there’s a lot of focus on notation and terminology, and you kind of miss the forest for the trees. 00:00:25 - Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Meta Muse. Muse is a tool for thought on iPad. This podcast isn’t abou...

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