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Teaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsWahoo! The interview you've all been waiting for!Many years ago I took an online marketing course with Seth Godin. I learned a lot, but honestly? The one benefit I gained was to meet Danny Bauer, founder of Better Leaders Better Schools and early podcaster. He asked to interview me about Teaching through Emotions! I was amazed! And this episode is the result.The interview took place in 2018, but it still perfectly captures the work I do and the reasons for it,including* what inspired me to go into education* why I focus on teachers (and administrators)...2025-07-2443 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsIntroducing...Those Who Can't Teach AnymoreThere are some good podcasts out there about education, but this one takes the cake. And the prize. (It has won a Top of the Rockies award from the Society of Professional Journalists and was nominated for an Ambie Award, which celebrates excellence in podcasting.) For your listening pleasure this summer, we’ve teed up Episode 5 of Those Who Can’t Teach Anymore. You’ll hear Charles and the people he interviewsdiscussing* the downsides of standardized testing* the upsides of process over product* the “tourist problem” in education* the intense irony of p...2025-07-101h 02Teaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsWhy are teachers quitting? Why are they staying? Is there any hope?In this special season finale, I speak with Charles Fournier, creator of the award-winning podcast Those Who Can’t Teach Anymore. Charles is a teacher — a really good, creative, passionate teacher, from what I can tell! — whose insights about what drives teachers out of the profession and what keeps them in are interesting and often surprising.We talk about* the multi-dimensional, culturally sanctioned disrespect for teachers* the pitfalls of quantifying learning* teaching content vs emphasizing relationships* my ideal teaching and learning “space”* a surprising characteristic of many teachers w...2025-06-2656 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsIf you're avoiding conflict, you might be ruining trust and success in your classroomThis one’s about me, folks! Joe and I dissect a story from long ago in which I caved to my conflict aversion — and then doubled back to engage with the conflict. Because it felt just too awful to continue to avoid it! In addition to sharing the surprising outcome of my conflict engagement,we talk about…* the subtle dynamics of self-erasure and avoidance* power grabs in collaborative settings* the transformative practice of repair* the pervasive nature of parallel process in all human interactions, from classrooms to personal life...2025-06-1354 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsGrades make learning worse for your students, and for you tooIn this episode, I talk with Arthur Chiaravalli, an educator at the heart of an organization called Grow Beyond Grades. Arthur shares his deeply personal journey away from traditional grading, revealing how it can undermine learning, sideline classroom relationships, and lead to passivity and apathy. He also talks about how freeing it is to deep six grades while focusing attention on meaningful, collaborative assessment — that is, on truly human-centered teaching.We talk about:* grades as handcuffs to products; how can we honor our students’ (and teachers’) processes?* the calamity of students who (for good reasons) simply chase the gr...2025-05-3059 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsHow mad should you be when your students disrespect a sub?This is another episode in our inadvertent series on teachers who handle badly behaving classes in novel ways! This time Pamela brings her wrath at a class of all boys to a Teacher Support Group and, after exhibiting her own resistance to different interpretations, decides to try something she would never have tried if left to her own devices.Listen to hear about* different types of neglectful parenting and the surprising ways they can manifest in a classroom* the joys — and limitations — of “revenge fantasies”* the perils of fusing one’s reputation...2025-05-1548 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsFrom nearly quitting to a heart attack, now she coaches wellness and teachersThinking about self-care — and, importantly, figuring out how to be cared for — is always good for every teacher any time. In this episode, I talk with Deb Calderara, a teacher who knows what it feels like to be completely overwhelmed. After facing burnout, a serious health crisis, and the confusing and exhausting pandemic, Deb had to figure out how to find strength and keep going, both for herself and her students.This conversation is about navigating those impossible moments and discovering unexpected ways to care for ourselves when it feels like there's no room.We talk...2025-05-0155 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsHer class descended into chaos—so she tried something counter-intuitiveIn this episode, Joe and I unpack a classroom story from Siobhan, a special ed teacher working with high schoolers who grapple with big emotions — by acting out in big ways. What happened when her students broke a deal they made? How did Siobhan handle it? (It wasn’t pretty, at first! But then it got, well, amazing.)Joe and I discuss* why students might get “insufferable” in the first place and what they might be communicating* how to prevent obsessive self-blame that can lead to insomnia* what makes for a healthy...2025-04-171h 02Teaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsPre-school teachers have it right: Professional LoveIn this episode, I interview an old and dear friend, Sarah Becker, who has been teaching and teaching teachers and directing at the early childhood level for years. We discuss a topic that has always fascinated me (ever since I met Sarah and saw her in action): What do early childhood educators know that the rest of us teachers, from elementary through graduate school, can afford to learn?We talk about* basic tenets of early childhood education* how those tenets apply at other educational levels* emergent and project-based curriculum...2025-04-0353 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsHow This Teacher Navigated a Cheater’s Emotional ManipulationIn this first episode of the second season of Teaching through Emotions, my co-host Joe and I tell a story about a cheater in a class taught by someone who can’t stand cheating. Our psychodynamic take on the story might surprise you.* We retell the outrageous lengths our cheater went to.* We share the teacher’s visceral responses to the cheater.* We wonder where the cheater’s True Self is.* We clarify what the teacher’s contributions are and how she can change them.* We tell how the story en...2025-03-2051 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsNew Season Trailer Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2025-03-0602 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsEpisode 16: Julia Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2024-08-1646 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsEpisode 15: Kristabel Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2023-04-1434 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsEpisode 14: Erica Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2022-11-1958 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsEpisode 13: Betsy Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2022-03-2926 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsOverwhelmed? Confused? Transform those emotions into effective instruction!Seems as though feeling overwhelmed has become a trademark of the teaching profession. And confusion? Why do our students do what they do (or not do what they don’t do)? So much that happens in classrooms these days doesn’t make sense! In this episode, two teachers do make sense of their feelings of overwhelmedness and confusion. We talk about* imagination in teaching and learning* the importance of emotional and relational data* creative solutions to overwhelming and confusing problems* the importance — and ways — of digging up assumptions* how to turn...2022-03-1523 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsEpisode 11: Jenny Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2022-03-0124 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsEpisode 10: Leona Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2022-02-1522 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsEpisode 9: Grace Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2022-02-0123 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsEpisode 8: Penelope Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2022-01-1825 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsEpisode 7: Veronica Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2022-01-0426 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsThis teacher turned classroom conflict into pure gold. Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2021-12-2124 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsTaming a "squirrely" class that made this teacher want to quit teachingToday we're in Sally's classroom. She loves hands-on learning and has a high tolerance for “squirreliness,” but what happens when squirreliness turns into outright chaos? One thing that happened for Sally was merciless self-blame that was so intense she actually considered quitting teaching. Sound familiar?In this episode, we unpack Sally’s experience and* clarify what went wrong (hint: It was not Sally, and it was not her students)* consider the often completely mismatched purposes for being in a classroom* reveal the basic truth that underlies all classroom behavior* think...2021-12-0725 minLoving Liberty Radio NetworkLoving Liberty Radio Network2021 December 7 The Bryan Hyde ShowI thoroughly enjoy our weekly discussions with Eric Peters from Eric Peters Autos. Eric always has a principled take on the passing scene and is a marvelous source of automotive information as well. It's disturbing that the people and systems that seek to rule us simply cannot admit that they were wrong in how they have responded to the pandemic. Jordan Schachtel details how the war on a virus has resulted in colossal failure and how the ruling class is struggling to cover up this reality. Speaking of avoiding reality, there's also the matter of...2021-12-071h 25Teaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsHow to free yourself from a debilitating team-teaching trapEver feel like you're doing all the work in a co-teaching setup? Rachel, a passionate social studies teacher, struggles with Edmund's "old-school" ways. His fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants approach leaves Rachel overcompensating and bubbling with resentment. What can she do to right the balance?In this episode we explore* what it means to fit together in a team-teaching trap* four different maladaptive relational patterns team teachers can fall into* what “negative grandiosity” means (and what “positive” — bad term — grandiosity means)* resentment as an incredibly accurate relational signal* the perils of “filling the vo...2021-11-2322 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsWhat to do when students blow you off -- and you are PISSEDIt’s mid-terms. Students are panicked; they need extra help. If you’re a college instructor, you open up more office hours so you can assuage students’ anxiety. Students sign up but don’t show up. GRRRRRRR!!!This episode features Robin, an extremely busy professor (like most teachers!) who got really mad when some students blew off the appointments they (voluntarily) signed up for. And didn’t contact her to explain why! How should she deal with this blatant inconsiderateness? What could she do with her insistent anger and disappointment? How did her Teacher Support Group help her turn i...2021-11-0925 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsHe was bored with his own teaching. Here's how he brought joy back.COVID was extremely, unusually, horribly difficult for most if not all teachers. Jeremy, a math teacher, was no exception. He was pretty sure he could not teach under COVID conditions — until he figured out how to make his classes fun even when they were fully remote. Of course, COVID is behind us now (thank goodness). But teachers can still feel deeply disconnected from their students.In this episode, we explore* how to reverse self-doubt* the importance of knowing your strengths AND your weaknesses* how to think about making classrooms (even when th...2021-10-2624 minTeaching through EmotionsTeaching through EmotionsA frustrated teacher lashes out at a resistant student—now what?An overwhelmed teacher acts out on a resistant student. Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe2021-10-1226 minTalk Out of SchoolTalk Out of SchoolBetsy DeVos, Vouchers and School PrivatizationJessica Levin of the Education Law Center and Katherine Dunn of the Southern Poverty Law Center talk to Carol Burris about their new organizational joint effort to inform the public about school voucher programs: Public Funds Public Schools. Burris discusses how vouchers are part of the effort of Secretary of Education Betsy De Vos's push to transform public education to a privatized system. https://pfps.orghttps://networkforpubliceducation.org 2019-10-0253 min