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Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODThe Power of “I Want…”In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce explore a simple yet powerful technique called “I want…”—a way to name our desires and aspirations out loud. As we cross the 200-episode milestone, we turn inward to uncover what we truly want from our work, and in doing so, open up new possibilities.
This candid conversation gets up close and personal, surprising even us with what surfaced. It’s a reminder that we often assume what others want—or even what we want—without asking or expressing it clearly.
The “I want…” exercise is a great tool for teams or families...
2025-07-2822 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODTight Ship or Jazz Band? Finding Balance in Today’s WorkplaceBob ‘n Joyce riff on how much structure is too much — and when it’s time to improvise.
In this episode, they dive into the ongoing tug-of-war between discipline and flexibility — habits that create stability vs. the adaptability that sparks innovation.
Once upon a time, businesses prized routine, rituals, and predictability. But in today’s fast-moving world, research suggests agility and openness may be even more crucial. So, which is it? The truth may lie somewhere in the messy, magical middle.
In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce:
• Coin a new word: flugidity – the courage to c...
2025-05-2225 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODBeyond Ping Pong Tables: How to Build a Culture of CareIn this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce explore what it really takes to create a workplace where people thrive — and it’s a lot more than free snacks and ping pong tables.
They dive into the idea of on-site wellness centers, where employees can unplug, recharge, and access real support.
Imagine a workplace that offers:
✅ Manicures and massage therapy
✅ On-site counseling for burnout or stress
✅ Flu and COVID shots without leaving the office
✅ Yoga, dance, and meditation sessions
Bob ‘n Joyce make the case that this isn’t a far-out fantasy. Companies...
2025-05-0918 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODThe Chosen Few: A Talent Strategy That’s Holding You BackIn this episode, Bob ’n Joyce explore the common practice of relying on the same group of people—time and again—to get important work done. Joyce calls them the “spoiled brats,” while Bob refers to them as the “usual suspects” or “chosen ones.”
The problem? This habit unintentionally sidelines the talent in waiting—the wild cards and up-and-comers—who miss out on critical development opportunities. We dive into practical ways to tap the full potential of your organization by broadening access to special projects and growth experiences beyond the usual favorites.
In this episode:
• Eye-opening stories abou...
2025-05-0222 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODBittersweet Tidings: The paradox of Holiday CheerIn this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce talk about the emotional highs and lows that surround the holidays. At a time when people feel compelled to be joyful, the holidays can also be a profoundly sad time. Today, we explore the power of expressing both the negative and positive emotions on any given situation or topic. We use the context of the holidays but it applies to most life circumstances and especially to the workplace.
Today’s episode was intended to express the positivity and joy of the season. Instead, Bob ‘n Joyce expose both the magic and hurt o...
2024-12-2326 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWorkplace Connection – The Cure for LonelinessIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss why building community and connection in the workplace should be every leader’s responsibility. Research shows that the loneliness crisis is worsening as people are feel more isolated and marginalized. When this is prevalent in the workplace, overall morale, productivity, and safety suffer.
The opportunity for HR, OD, and Leadership is that a healthy workplace can be just what is needed for people to feel connected and seen. Bob’nJoyce put forward practical steps that leaders can take to promote true connection and camaraderie between employees. These actions, when done well are a...
2024-12-0920 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODGetting Unstuck When Rules & Norms No Longer ApplyIn this Episode, exactly one week before the U.S. elections, Bob’nJoyce take on the timely topic of getting unstuck when uncertainty and anxiety run rampant.
As a country, we are trying to figure out how to move forward post-election despite half of the country being disappointed and angry. The same is true when a business is suddenly disrupted and what worked before no longer does. Bob’nJoyce lean into their experience and share lessons about ways to get organizations and its people unstuck and moving forward.
Come joins us in this doozy (Joyce’s word...
2024-10-3025 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODGetting from Checked Out to All InIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce address the challenge of moving from personal or organizational lethargy to vitality. Good leaders can sense the pulse of an organization and find ways to move the needle on the cultural vibe. So the question becomes how do you engage employees in order to make the shift?
Here are a couple of areas we mused on:
Responding to, ‘Well, it is what it is.’
Combating the malaise of boredom at work.
The importance of leaning into the discomfort through dialogue (versus measuring it through stay surveys).
The power...
2024-08-2819 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODGo South Young Man - Baptism by FireIn this episodes, Bob’nJoyce explore the dynamic of how a big challenge can bring out our best and accelerate people development. Joyce interviews Bob about his going south (North Carolina) from Maine to help create a division of stores in a new market.
Taking on work with unknowns and challenges, expected and unexpected, is both terrifying and thrilling. In this episode, we share interventions and processes that both worked and did not. The lessons are relevant today as organizations and individuals take on challenges in an unpredictable world.
Welcome to our island of sanity. Co...
2024-03-2925 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWhy We Do This...In today’s episodes, Bob’nJoyce get real about why they are committed to doing this podcast. They share their ‘Why’ to give context to the topics they choose and their unique perspectives on everything HR/OD. As a regular listener, it is important that you know where the passion for this work comes from.
Today, more than ever, OD is an island of sanity in a world in profound disarray. Spending time every week tuning in to Bob'nJoyce is hopefully your island of sanity as you go about making your organization, and the world better.
Come o...
2024-03-2117 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODI'm Exhausted...What About You?In this episode, Bob’nJoyce riffs on pervasive workplace exhaustion and what to do about it. The pressure on organizations for high performance has never been greater despite workers being less engaged and motivated. Bob’nJoyce provide 25 practical ideas that gets us moving and out of the doldrums. A couple of them include:
• Eating a meal with people that energize you.
• Time out lounges and quiet zones.
• Slowing down when you feel the need to speed up.
• Eliminating work that doesn't matter.
And, of course, listening to Bob’nJoyce podcast every week!
Come on...
2024-03-1219 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODBuilding Resilience Amidst Workplace ChaosIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce riff on ways to build resilience in the midst of significant workplace disruption. This includes everything from a major organizational overhaul to the sudden departure of a popular leader. The question is what practical steps can leaders and HR/OD practitioners do to ground employees and maintain business focus.
Disruptive change paralyses an organization and its employees. The typical reaction is to avoid risk, hunker down, and keep concerns to yourself. Bob’nJoyce offer practical ideas that helps people and teams get unstuck by providing “islands of sanity,” where safe conversations promotes resilien...
2024-02-2821 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODAddressing Cynicism in the WorkplaceIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce rift on creating a healthy work culture in a world where cynicism about institutions has become the norm. Many workers today are tired, bored, and disillusioned. Given this current reality, what can leaders and HR/OD practitioners to turn the ship around?
Bob’nJoyce would offer those cosmetic solutions like flexible hours, ping pong tables, and pizza parties are nice but are not the answer. They discuss the roots of cynicism and then offer ideas and actions to consider. Here are some ideas they offer:
Name what is happening correctly to unde...
2024-02-0525 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODTransforming How Work Gets DoneIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce share OD principles that foster true collaborative workplaces where dignity and meaning prevail. They highlight an approach, STS (Socio Technical Systems), a collaborative change process introduced by Bernard Mohr some 30 years ago at a new Hannaford warehouse. A team of people doing the work (receivers, packers, selectors) partnered with leadership to transform their workplace with impressive results.
As OD practitioners, we strive to foster workplaces that create a sustaining competitive advantage and positive work culture. In today’s podcast, Bob’nJoyce rift on the valuable lessons they’ve learned about leading workplace transfor...
2024-01-3023 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODThe Power of Here and NowIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce riff on the importance of immersing oneself in the present–the here and now. They discuss the discipline of getting real, its benefits, and at times, its awkwardness. Our brains are good at drifting and being distracted by what has happened or will happen. Being 100% in the here and now is ironically not where our minds spend much time.
This is an experiential exercise where Bob’nJoyce practice the art of being in the here and now. Please join our intimate, uncomfortable, and wonderful conversation.
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2023-11-2023 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWhy Do We Do Bob'nJoyce?In this episode, Bob’nJoyce talk candidly about their work and why it matters so much to them. The world is one big mess where world order and institutions are crumbling, and uncertainty and dissatisfaction abound. Bob and Joyce are passionate and committed to supporting the world’s change agents and difference makers. Our goal is to create an oasis of sanity for the brave OD and HR people on the front lines. Come join us as we share our passion for this work, and you, our listeners.
2023-10-0210 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODThe Super Power of SolitudeIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss the merits of solitude - being alone with one’s thoughts. Today’s podcast is based on a lecture that was delivered by William Deresiewicz at the United States Military Academy at West Point in October 2009. He discusses the critical and often overlooked link between solitude and leadership.
Join us to learn how Bob’nJoyce created space for leaders to think deeply about their work.
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2023-08-3018 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWhen Leadership Checks OutIn this episode, Bob’n Joyce discuss what happens when leaders lose their edge when boredom and doubt takes over. This is a natural phenomenon where work performance over time ebbs and flows. BTW… it happens to all of us at some point in time. The challenge for leadership is the unrelenting high demand of a role when they feel checked out. Bob’n Joyce share ideas on how to address this phenomenon with leaders in a way that normalizes it (nothing is wrong here) and provides a path forward.
A warning: We use quirky, not exactly perfec...
2023-06-0118 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODDEI – A Lot of Talk, Not Enough ActionAre companies doing enough to make their organizations more diverse, inclusive, and equal? In this Episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss why many diversity initiatives miss the mark.
We will explore:
• Why discussing this is difficult for us?
• Why DEI initiatives are more about change (action), and less about training?
• What is needed in the person leading Diversity?
• What role does a CEO/leader play in DEI work?
• How do you manage resistance in a one-up, one down world?
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2023-03-0319 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODPerformance Reviews That ExciteSome organizations are getting performance conversations right. In Episode 102, Bob’nJoyce explore a company where the performance review process is shifting culture, exciting both bosses and employees. We jumped into:
• Why “traditional review processes” are dead
• The use of powerful conversations where both boss and employees feel seen, heard, and validated
• Why ranking and rating people poisons the well
• Why timing and frequency matters
Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome.
2023-02-1620 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODThriving in Chaos and UncertaintyDoes the world seem to be unraveling in a way that makes you feel adrift and powerless? If you can relate to this, we have the antidote. Organizations are stressed, institutions are crumbling, and what seemed normal and dependable now seems chaotic and uncertain.
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share a simple exercise to overcome the chaos by getting grounded in your inner sense, or your calling, of what you want to accomplish in your life.
This exercise is straightforward if not a bit challenging, but the effort is worth it.
So come on...
2023-02-1021 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODDiversity Interventions That WorkIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce share diversity interventions that worked during their time with Hannaford and Food Lion. On January 17th, the New York Times had an Op. Ed. that questioned the value of diversity training and suggested that it may cause more harm than good. The Op. Ed. made valid research-based criticism so we felt compelled to share interventions that were transformational and improved company culture.
Here are some of the themes we explored:
• Why training is the wrong word and approach for cultural fluency
• Examples of starting a company conversation by celebrating a mult...
2023-01-2516 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODGetting Clear and Setting Intentions (PART 2)In this episode, we continue to set our intentions about what we commit to doing this year. The new year is a time when many of us plan and create goals for the year ahead. We utilize an exercise, “What we are say yes and no to,” to guide our conversation. This process is a powerful exercise for individuals, and teams to set intentionality for future action. Come join us to experience the “What we are saying yes and not to” exercise and learn our intentions for Bob’nJoyce in 2023.
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2023-01-1310 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODGetting Clear and Setting IntentionsHappy New Year! In this episode, we set intentions on what we want Bob’nJoyce Podcast to be in 2023. The new year is a time when many of us plan and create goals for the year ahead. We utilized an exercise, “I want, I need,” to guide our conversation. This process is a powerful exercise for individuals, and teams to set intentionality for future action. Come join us to experience the “I want, I need” exercise and learn our intentions for Bob’nJoyce in 2023.
So…. Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!
2023-01-0614 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODRethinking Rituals to Meet the MomentIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss why rituals must evolve to meet the changing needs of families and organizations. In Episode 75, we discussed the importance of rituals bringing soothing comfort to ground and support organizational success. Today, we look at the importance of rethinking rituals in times of disruption and big change.
Bob’nJoyce offer advice on:
Letting go of existing rituals and creating new ones.
Managing the discomfort of being between worn-out rituals and new rituals.
The importance of anchoring events to what is needed.
The role of OD in managing the in-between “state”
So come...
2022-12-2923 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODRethinking HR/OD Conventional WisdomIn this episode, Bob'nJoyce explore the need to rethink HR/OD rules, practices, and processes in a post pandemic world. These rules dictate everything we do from how we hire, develop, and reward employees to how we structure organizations, and shape cultures, to name a couple.
In this episode, we explore:
The need to rethink conventional wisdom and the way things get done.
Acknowledging the rules that rule our thinking.
The need to view organizational structure differently by following where the authority lives in a company.
An experiential activity to demonstrate communication and authority.
So...
2022-12-2121 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODDeveloping Supervisory JudgmentIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce share a process on how to accelerate learning for front line supervisors. People new to supervising a team are often confronted with issues that challenge their judgment. Over time, a new supervisor grows in their judgment and wisdom. Today’s podcast provides ideas to short circuit this process.
In this episode, Bob’nJoyce will:
• Underline the importance of the front-line supervisor role.
• Share a unique approach to develop supervisors
• Explore ways to speed up the process of developing supervisory judgment
Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome.
2022-12-0716 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODI Pray Anyway, Devotions for the AmbivalentWith Thanksgiving Day arriving, Bob’nJoyce thought a break from HR/OD would be good and instead talked about her inspriational book, I Pray Anyway - Devotions for the Ambivalent. It is a book about faith, spirituality, and striving for meaning.
I Pray Anyway - Devotions for the Ambivalent has been described as much more than a book but more like a wise, patient friend. That’s a good description for Joyce, don’t you agree?
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2022-11-2816 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODRethinking CEO SuccessionIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore ideas on career pathing for future CEO’s. We discussed conventional wisdom on CEO competencies that no longer apply. With the workplace democratization and modern market complexity, future CEO’s must have skill sets and experience much different than their predecessors.
In this episode, we rift on:
• The imperfection of CEO recruiting and inflexible selection criteria
• The importance of choosing a CEO who brings the right temperament and expertise
• The merits of CEO healer-in-chief
• Good and bad examples of CEO transition
So come on in. Grab a sna...
2022-11-1627 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODQuiet Quitting - Why We DisagreeIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore the term “Quiet Quitting” and why they believe it’s meaning misses the mark. Quiet quitting has gone from a life hack on social media to a global phenomenon. So what is going on? Are people checking out, recalibrating their life balance, or just fed up with toxic workplaces? We jump into the debate with our own research and intuitive instincts to offer our opinion on what is really happening.
Check out this episode where we:
Offer advice to people who feel workplace burnout
Describe why leadership owns “quiet quitting,” not the empl...
2022-11-1024 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODPromoting an Entrepreneurial SpiritIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore the conditions that promote an entrepreneurial culture in large organizations. This timely topic, we call it "intrepeneurialism," is what organizations need to compete in today’s marketplace. The problem is many current company cultures do not encourage risk taking, experimentation, and failing forward. We offer ideas that help leaders and OD/HR practitioners create the conditions that unleash employees.
So please, come on in. Grab a Halloween treat. Welcome!
2022-11-0318 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODThe Death of Performance Appraisals – Part 2In this episode, Bob’nJoyce offer an alternative to dated traditional performance appraisal practices. This is a follow-up to last week's episode (E.87) where we came down on the side of a structured performance conversation between boss and employee several times a year.
In this episode, you will get:
• Powerful questions that stimulate candid conversations between boss and employee.
• A process that works both one-on-one and in groups.
• The rationale for having a performance conversation at the beginning, mid-point, and end-of-year.
• A process focused on the future using insight (what has happened) and foresi...
2022-10-2628 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODDeath of Performance AppraisalsIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce join the debate about scrapping traditional performance appraisal practices. We suggest that HR/OD replace traditional practices with a less confrontational, more co-equal process between leaders and their direct reports. We discuss practical, simple ways to make this happen:
Get rid of grading and complex rating methods that are bureaucratic and don't work.
Build a process using methodologies we know work - Straight talk, appreciative inquiry, and timely feedback.
Balance the conversation by focusing as much on future expectations and professional development as reviewing past performance.
Using powerful questions that promote a conversation th...
2022-10-1924 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODThe Merit of Giving UpIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss the merits of giving up and letting go. ‘Giving up’ cuts against the grain of persistence and endurance. Most of us struggle with giving up despite it being the right thing to do in some situations. Why is this an important topic? Many times when you let something go, another opportunity presents itself.
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2022-10-1414 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODLessons from Gallup on Workplace UnhappinessIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce examine lessons from the Gallup organization on addressing the profound disengagement in the workplace. They share the conditions that are necessary for employee well-being based on Gallup’s research. This is a call out for leaders to measure employee engagement as closely as they do sales and profit. OD and HR can play a pivotal role in making this happen.
So…
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2022-10-0624 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEmerging OD – Are We Ready? Part 2In this episode, Bob’nJoyce continue exploring the increased demand being put on OD at a time most individuals and organizations are pushed to their limit. We look at how OD has evolved since its inception, what we need to do differently in this new era, and therefore who we need to be going forward. The question is whether OD is ready to step up and into this new space. The stakes couldn’t be higher both for OD and the organizations served.
So…
Come on in. Grab a soothing snack. Welcome!
2022-09-2728 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODEmerging OD – Are We Ready?In this episode and the next, Bob’nJoyce explore the increased demand being put on OD at a time most individuals and organizations are pushed to their limit. We will rift on how OD has evolved from its inception and what role OD must play going forward. The big question is whether organizations and OD are willing and ready to step up and into this new emerging partnership.
So…
Come on in. Grab an autumn snack. Welcome!
2022-09-2218 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODPushing Through OverwhelmIn today’s episode, Bob’nJoyce take on the topic of OD/HR coping with being overwhelmed in a world that overwhelms. The workplace is in a profound shift where what was no longer is, what is isn’t working for too many of us, and what will be is not known. The demands of OD/HR has never been greater. Bob’nJoyce share ideas on how to be at your best in challenging times.
In this episode, we explore:
The power of seeing what is really happening
Recovering from getting knocked down and getting back on your...
2022-09-1425 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODLeading from Where You AreIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore how leadership is a state of being, not a position that one holds. They share stories and provide examples how anyone can lead without training or a prescribed developmental path. Not only can one lead from anywhere but given today’s challenges and uncertainty, it is required. Are you ready to lead? If so…
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2022-09-0722 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODGallup Poll – Engaging WisdomIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss the Gallup Engagement Poll and why it is more relevant today than ever. The 2022 workplace landscape has changed dramatically, but the measure of what makes a great workplace has not. Bob’nJoyce review the attributes that promote the involvement and enthusiasm of employees in both their work and workplace.
This is a conversation worth having given the ongoing ‘mass resignation so…
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2022-08-3131 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODSlowing Down to Speed UpIn today’s episode, Bob’nJoyce hit the pause button to explore ways to up their podcast game. We revisit our commitment conversation (Episode 77) as a test case for what direction Bob’nJoyce Talk OD & HR will take going forward. This November 10th, we celebrate our 2nd year of doing this podcast and see the milestone as an opportunity to sharpen our focus and impact.
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2022-08-2315 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODOD/HR Steps Out of the ShadowsIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce examine the role of HR/OD as a stimulator of new ideas and approaches that make organizations work better. This role is the driving force behind HR/OD transitioning from the sidelines to taking the lead shaping their organizations.
In this episode, we:
• provide examples how OD unleashes the potential of every employee.
• Turn cascading communication models upside down and sideways.
• Explore the power of co-creation
HR/OD doesn’t have to have the answer nor do they. Let’s explore…
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2022-08-1721 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODRe-upping Our Commitment To This WorkToday, Joyce and Bob renew and recommit to their relationship of working together. This November, Bob’nJoyce will celebrate their 2nd Anniversary of doing the Bob’nJoyce Talk HR/OD Podcast. They take the time to pause and create the space to discuss where they are in their relationship and new ways to bring energy and revitalization to our work.
Today, we…
Demonstrate the power of renewal and commitment.
Get gritty about how we bring our full selves to this work.
Share our thinking about taking our work to the next level.
So come on in. Gr...
2022-08-1024 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODLetting People Go – Organizational Moment of TruthIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss how to do terminations well. People exiting an organization is common and yet too many terminations are done awkwardly and poorly.
In this episode, you will learn why:
We don’t like the word, termination.
Doing it poorly destroys the trust and bond with those that remain.
Done well, dignity and a person’s self-worth remain intact.
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2022-08-0322 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODThe Importance of Organizational RitualsIn today’s episode, Bob’nJoyce explore work rituals that define an organization’s culture. Rituals (think habit with focus and intention) bring soothing comfort and ground and support organizational success.
In this episode we:
Describe why leaders and OD professionals need to be aware of and participate in rituals
Share examples of rituals that work
Address how to create new rituals during disruption and big change
Explore how simple rituals make a huge difference
So…. Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome.
2022-07-2019 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODHR's Bad RapIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce continue their conversation on the bad rap that HR receives. HR is often seen as the compliance police, organizational irritant, and communication black hole.
In this episode, we muse about why HR is so critical to an organization’s success despite the bad rap it gets. We also pose the question of whether HR's reputation is getting better (hint - we are going to need your help here).
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2022-07-1220 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODHR - Who Are We?In this episode, Bob'nJoyce talk sports, making choices, and yes, the need for HR to reinvigorate itself.
You will learn:
• The need to check in before diving into work (warning: we took 5 ½ minutes)
• Moving from an HR compliance focus to a dynamic organizational force
• The importance of checking into your point of view
• HR as supportive structure for a company’s success
• 5 skills you need to lead HR (or anything really)
So come on in for fun and learning and, don’t forget the snack.
2022-07-0629 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD2022 Culture Change Work – Soothing, Uncomfortable And NeededIn Episode 72, Bob’nJoyce rift on needed culture change given our times. Organizations and institutions are under great pressure to change behaviors and processes that no longer serves them. As OD/HR practitioners, we recognize the importance of positive culture change work. In 2022, this is truer than ever.
In this episode you will learn:
• 4 facts about today’s organizational reality
• 3 suggestions for going from command and control to collaboration
• 2 ideas for what a leader can do to lead an organization through uncertain times
• 1 way to shift from tight structure (limiting) to a shared visio...
2022-06-2925 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODBaptism by Fire – Part TwoIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce share a story about Bob’s experience co-leading Hannaford’s entry into new markets in Virginia and North Carolina. This is a story about pivotal career moments, immersive learning, facing fear and taking risk. As HR/OD practitioners, putting workers in challenging environments is a best practice that accelerates learning and builds resilience. Some stories are worth telling, and Bob’nJoyce think this one is rich in lessons learned.
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2022-06-2132 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODBaptism by Fire – A Story about Accelerated LearningIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce share a story about accelerated learning. It is scary, intimidating, and uncomfortable but is where deep learning happens.
This is a Maine story about great Mainers and a Philly boy facing the elements and prevailing. It is an Aesop’s fable on the lessons of real and deep learning for HR/OD practitioners to hear. So…
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2022-06-0716 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWinning the Battle for TalentIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce, discuss the posting process and its importance to an organization’s success. In the era of Zoom, social media, and recruiting apps, it is easy to forget that posting and hiring is still a high touch process. Companies whose posting process fails to reach beyond their line of sight to find hidden talent are in trouble.
The power dynamic between employees and employers has shifted from employers having the power to jobseekers, employed or not, having as much. A modern posting process must acknowledge this new world and be world class at attr...
2022-05-2422 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODManaging External OD/HR ConsultantsIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce delve in the benefits of using external OD/HR consultants while managing the landmines of using them. Whether you are hiring an executive search firm, coach, or OD consultant, there are some commonsense rules of the road to leverage the relationship.
Bob’nJoyce bring an unique perspective as they have been both external consultants and internal practitioners. Come learn from their experience of getting it right and making big blunders – the latter of which still makes them cringe.
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2022-05-1727 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODTo Disrupt – OD’s Ultimate PurposeIn today’s episode, Bob’nJoyce wrestle with the idea of OD’s purpose being to evoke disruption. We both agreed the word disruption may be too harsh. Our goal in today's podcast is to create meaning with the words we use to describe OD’s work. This matters.
Knowing OD’s purpose guides us and informs why OD creates organization discomfort. We debate alternatives to the word "disruptor," like "galvanizer" and "catalyst."
Come join us to see where we landed.
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2022-05-1016 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODA Show About NothingIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce let it rip and rift about rifting. We discussed everything from toilet paper and Kleenex to delayed gratification and somehow relate it all back to OD.
Once we get focused, we talked about how perspectives and opinions are often shaped by the roles we play. Come listen to discover how the words competition, protection, disruption, and projection relate to specific functions.
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2022-05-0523 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODA Time to Be Bold and CourageousMany of us play it safe when the organization requires bold action. In this episode, Bob’nJoyce take on the topic of leaning into discomfort and taking bold action to move a team or organization.
We share examples when we took bold action that worked and times we flopped, pivoted, and moved forward. In these volatile and uncertain times, playing it safe when bold action is required just doesn’t cut it.
We are back after a two-week hiatus so please come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!
2022-04-2731 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODLead Like You Own It - Lessons from EntrepreneursIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce look at leadership through the lens of an entrepreneur. An entrepreneur wears many hats and must surround themselves with people who possess skills and knowledge they lack. They must move fast and correct quickly knowing that everything is on the line. They pay attention to the culture from the perspective of what the employee experience must be to deliver the customer experience they desire.
The three key critical roles of an entrepreneur are:
Attracting great talent
Running the business
Cultivating the culture
While there are many complex leadership models, sometimes si...
2022-03-2426 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODFully Human Leadership – A Deeper DiveIn today’s episode, Bob’nJoyce dive deeper into the new leadership model introduced in Episode 59. They make the case why dated leadership models are no longer sufficient to thrive in a VUCA world and why this new model of leadership is needed to meet modern challenges.
They answer the questions:
• How is this model different from past models?
• Are some of the 16 attributes more important than others?
• How does one incorporate this model into their unique leadership style?
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2022-03-1726 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODInformed Consultant – OD SherpaIn today’s episode, Bob’NJoyce explore ODN’s 5th and final OD core competency, Informed Consultant. This competency draws on an OD practitioner’s organizational awareness, commitment to diversity and inclusion, and possessing a toolbox of OD interventions that drives a company’s success. We use the term OD Sherpa, a person with the endurance to overcome difficult circumstances and the skills to lead the way, to best describe this OD competency.
2022-02-2524 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWe Doth Protest Too Much – Being a Credible StrategistIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore ODN’s 4th OD Competency – Credible Strategist. This competency requires OD to have a leadership presence and the emotional intelligence to influence strategy. Bob’nJoyce share examples of their work on shaping successful strategies in partnership with top leaders. This episode explores what it means to be credible and how you get there. This competency requires OD to be in touch with what is happening at every level of an organization from the break room to the board room. This is a tall order but so worth the effort.
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2022-02-1525 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODOD Obi-Wan KenobiIn this Episode, Bob’nJoyce explore ODN’s 3rd OD Competency – Business Advisor. In today’s chaotic, unpredictable world, leadership needs trusted OD business advisors to get beyond current thinking and explore new possibilities to tackle modern challenges and opportunities. OD practitioners, with their system thinking and curiosity are in a unique position to add value as a business advisor.
So come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!
2022-02-0830 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODHow OD Makes Organizations Work Better – System Change ExpertToday, we continue to explore “OD’s job description” as defined by ODN, a network of OD scholars and practitioners committed to creating effective, healthy organizations. In this episode, we focus on the first, and arguably most important competency - System Design Expert. This competency blends the ability to assess what is happening in an organization (that contributes to or impedes progress) with the development of effective change strategies.
Being a system change expert is about doing high impact work that improves organizational effectiveness. Today Bob ‘n Joyce share their success and hacks when doing this work and the...
2022-01-2731 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODGoing Behind the OD Curtain – How We Do What We DoIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce demystify the work of OD using the competency framework created by ODN (Organization Development Network). In Episode 21 we reviewed this framework in general terms but felt the need to revisit and go deeper. Why? We have two reasons:
We OD professionals too often minimize our impact by limiting work to facilitating teams, resolving conflict, and designing “feel-good” events. These are all important but insufficient at making a significant impact.
In a post Covid perpetual VUCA (Volatile, Uncertain, Complex, and Ambiguous) world, companies and organizations will need to be in a constant mode of reinve...
2022-01-2129 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODBeing Fully Human Goes MainstreamIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss the shift towards humanizing organizations and leadership. The common themes of irritation (what took us so long), and optimism (A Covid gift) emerge in today’s podcast.
We explore:
■ Why humanize organization and leadership and why now
■ The need for HR and OD to seize the momentum and lead this change
■ The concept of “memory yearn” and the headwinds confronting this trend
■ Distinguishing “feelings” and being “soft” from being fully human
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2022-01-1123 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODThe New Normal: Living with CovidIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce get up close and personal with Covid as one of them tested positive. Like wishing a storm to pass, we have waited two years for putting Covid behind us. By now, we know this isn’t going to happen anytime soon. The truth is we have entered a new normal where we must learn to live (and die) with the disease. So what are the implications for organizations, and more specifically HR and OD, as they strive to protect their employees? We discussed this, and a warning, we both agreed that our views are a bi...
2022-01-0422 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODUncertainty’s Best Antidote - Shining the LightIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore the importance of bringing “light” into the tunnel when all seems bleak and uncertain. Organizations and individuals, especially now, need to tell the truth and shed light given today’s profound uncertainty and diminished optimism.
So where does this come from? HR/OD and leadership must inspire and bring light to themselves and their organizations. We explore ways to make this happen and share how small, simple things can make a big difference. If positive renewal is to emerge from of today’s chaos, it will begin by bringing “light” into the tunnel.
2021-12-2826 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODConfronting Conflict – An Emerging HR/OD CompetencyIn this episode, we share practical tips on how individuals and groups can effectively navigate difficult conversation. In a culture where profound disagreement runs rampant, Bob’nJoyce take on how to have difficult conversations in a way which lowers the heat, builds trust, and promotes common understanding. HR and OD practitioners are in a unique position to take the lead on facilitating conversation on topics that thwart productivity and civility.
In this episode, we cover:
• Learning the art of “the pause” to clear the air and recalibrate
• Asking right questions, the right way to resolve disagreeme...
2021-12-2128 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODCreating a New Normal - What Stays and What Goes?In this episode, Bob’nJoyce muse over the new order that is emerging from the chaos of Covid. We, as a society, are in a tectonic shift that demarcates before and after resulting from the many pivots that organizations and individuals have been forced to make. How work gets done, where it happens, and what we value most are all conversations that need to happen. It requires pausing to assess and act on recalibrating past norms and practices – not an easy thing to do.
Today’s episode punctuates the opportunity that lies before every leader, and OD/HR pro...
2021-12-1625 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODCaution Ahead – Navigating the Perils of Adult LearningWhy does training too often miss the mark? This is the central question we take on in today’s podcast. Bob’nJoyce deconstruct the distinction between learning and training that is often confused with one another, or worse yet, considered the same. When you mix up one for the other, the bottom line, employee satisfaction, and customer service all suffer. If that doesn’t get your attention, nothing will.
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2021-12-0224 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODLessons From Eating Popcorn – The Perfect Comfort FoodIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore the importance of finding respite and meaningful work in a dispirited, confused world. We have been through a lot these last two years and many of us are trying to figure out what we need going forward to be fulfilled and happy. This is a messy but worthwhile pursuit.
In this episode, you will get:
Ideas for leaders on how to navigate in turbulent times
Strategies for all us to thrive in chaos and loss
The power of HR/OD to be asking the right question from the right audience
...
2021-11-2331 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWhen Work Works – Merits of a Large OrganizationThis week, Bob’nJoyce take on the merits of working in big organizations. With a record number of Americans quitting their jobs, they suggest that people just might find meaning and fulfillment in a large organization. Big companies are too often regarded as impersonal, bureaucratic, and rigid. Bob’nJoyce take on this myth based on their experience.
In this episode, you will learn:
Why big companies with big aspirations create community and purpose
That working in big companies doesn’t mean losing oneself
What is behind the shift in power to workers fed up with their workpl...
2021-11-1816 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWhy Employee Benefits Matter Now More Than EverIn this episode, Bob’njoyce explore the importance of employee pay benefits to reflect an organization’s culture and values. All too often, employers mimic the market to determine what benefits to offer employees. While this is an important data point, an organization must also factor in its values and culture.
Why this conversation now? Many companies, small and large, are struggling to pivot from past pay benefit practices that no longer meet the demands of a changing workforce. Assessing employee benefits through the lens of culture and values, and what employees most value, is critical to maki...
2021-11-1025 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODAsking “What if…” – A Powerful Idea GeneratorIn today’s episode we explore a brainstorming technique called, “What if…”, a conversation exercise that unleashes creativity, innovation, and new ideas. Bob’nJoyce take on the topic of the seismic change in the workplace resulting from two years of Covid disruption. Many organizations are returning to the old way of work despite worker resistance and resignations. Using the “What if” technique is about creating infinite possibilities by taking a future perspective. Okay, maybe not infinite but more than you might think.
In this episode you will get:
• An actual demo of how “What if…” works.
• Why in our curre...
2021-11-0225 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODHR/OD’s Duty to Speak Truth to PowerBlind spots exist in every organization. They conceal organizational truths, that when left uncovered, hinder effectiveness and stifle innovation. In this episode, Bob and Joyce explore HR/OD’s responsibility to speak truth to power. This important HR/OD role requires courage and determination to confront taboos and tip sacred cows.
In this episode we uncover:
Why speaking truth to power is so important
The unintended consequences of not confronting truths
How to increase leaderships' receptibility to hearing uncomfortable truths
Using inquiry to speaking truth to power in a respectful and effective way
A conversation exercise th...
2021-10-2629 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODLet’s Get Goofy – The Power of HumorIn this episode, Bob’NJoyce explore the benefits, and yes, the power of humor. More and more, organizations are declaring humor as a value. Leaders who are seen as not taking themselves too seriously, connect better with employees and put them at ease.
So what is going is going here and why more now than ever? We take this on and discuss:
• Why humor and play softens the system, loosens thinking, and helps people connect
• How humor takes the edges off big fat mistakes and failures
• Humor as the X-factor character trait in leadership
• Th...
2021-09-2122 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODAll Things HRIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce get granular on all things HR. Joyce interviews Bob on the arc of his career in HR and his perspectives on the power of HR when aligned with OD and leadership.
In this episode we:
Provide examples on how to break into and grow in HR
Discuss the multifaceted nature of HR which is what attracts and, at times, frustrates practitioners
Discuss the balance of attending to the day-to-day while moving the needle on what matters most
Babble about HR/OD reporting structures
Come in… grab a snack, welcome!
2021-09-1431 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODMentoring – A Catalyst for DevelopmentThe saying, “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear,” is at the heart of successful mentoring. In this episode, we will explore mentoring programs and why some work but many don’t. The dilemma that unfolded in today’s podcast is that while the merits of mentoring relationships are critical to organizational success, both Bob’nJoyce had bad experiences with formal mentoring programs.
In this episode, we will:
Explore the pitfalls of former mentoring programs
Discuss the importance of a learning culture
Describe the necessary conditions for mentoring to flourish
Provide practical tips that work
N...
2021-08-2420 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWorkplace Reinvention – An OpportunityOrganizations are grappling with reinventing their workplace to attract and retain talent. In this episode, Bob’nJoyce noodle over what is possible when companies are imaginative and courageous in rethinking their workplaces.
We riffed:
The assumption/myth that workplaces will return to pre-Covid norms
Why it may be time to throw out the old HR handbook
What employees value and therefore will demand from their work
Trusting employees will get the work done regardless of where/how they work
Giving your workers choice and freedom.
Enjoy today’s podcast.
2021-08-1722 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWhy Leaders Need To Be More CuriousIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce explore why curiosity is a critical 21st Century leadership skill. It isn't a flavor of the week trend. Curiosity is the bedrock of creativity and imagination. Without it, there is no innovation or creativity. Crisis or radical change demands new ideas. This is where being curious comes in. Problem is, it’s not easy for many leaders.
We discuss:
—how trauma can freeze-out curiosity
—where new ideas come from
—that curious CEO's are invaluable
—when a problem demands curiosity
2021-07-2022 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODManaging Versus LeadingIn this episode, Bob and Joyce talk about the difference between leading and managing. They play with defining both and talk about the blend of leading and managing going on today. They mention an assessment tool they think is good for leaders.
The important role of a manager today is heightened due to the recruitment slump going on due to Covid. It is the managers of a company who are the key to hiring good people and retaining them. The new demand in managing is the nurture and psychological safety of associates.
They discuss how...
2021-07-0625 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODMaking Lemonade from Lemons - Creating Good From NothingIn this podcast, Bob 'n Joyce talk about unexpected or "no obvious solution" moments where there is no time for a planned OD intervention. They describe what they did in those situations that worked. In different ways, they brought together the people being impacted to create an approach or solution for themselves. Often the success of this kind of experience lessened resistance to larger system change. Crisis creates opportunity to do things very creative and different.
2021-06-2924 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODHire Right or ElseIn this episode, Bob 'n Joyce talk about the hiring process and the demand on HR/OD to get it right. There is nothing more important to a company’s success than hiring the best people and too many companies aren’t. We explore what’s not working and brainstorm ideas to make your hiring process a powerful differentiator.
In this episode, you will get:
• Why right now is a great opportunity to attract great talent.
• How to make your hiring process a magnet for attracting the best.
• Branding your values and vision into your hi...
2021-06-2221 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODGuided Imagery – A Powerful Alignment/Visioning ToolIn this episode, Bob 'n Joyce share how the use of guided imagery helped kick off a profound culture shift in the Hannaford Supermarkets of New England.
They discuss:
a specific script of a guided imagery they used with large groups of food retailers to initiate the co-creation of a vision introduced by the new CEO
Talk about how a radical method worked and why the CEO was bold enough to give it a try
How the use of large groups of up to 350 people managed to be productive and galvanizing...
2021-06-1526 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODConfronting Burnout as HR/OD ProfessionalsBob’N Joyce discuss the pervasive issue of employee and organizational burnout. Once a taboo topic, the pandemic has exposed that it is a real condition, that left unaddressed, devastates individuals, teams, and entire organizations. Rethink the responsibilities of employers to their employees amidst changing priorities. Discover how employers can promote resilience.
In this episode, we cover:
• The role HR/OD plays in confronting burnout
• Helpful tips on how to detect burnout
• Actions to take when you are in burn out
• Interventions to expose and heal organizational burnout
2021-06-0819 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODSeeing Through the Bramble of Internal OD WorkOD practitioners wear a lot of hats. In this episode, Bob’nJoyce sort through these many hats using the Global OD Model developed by ODN. This model defines the discipline of organizational development and assesses areas for professional development.
We discussed:
• The multi-faceted work of an OD professional working inside a company and the richness of the work as well as the complexity of the many hats worn when working inside.
• The work we have done that fits under each segment of the Global OD Model to show the benefit of having a model that provid...
2021-06-0125 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODOur Turn - Common HR/OD Flaws and Why They MatterTurnabout is fair play. In this episode, Bob’n Joyce discuss common OD/HR leadership flaws and their unintended consequences. HR/OD professionals, like CEO’s, are human and, as a result, imperfect. We all possess flaws that, if left unattended, diminish our impact.
Here are a few of the common flaws we discuss:
• Acting too small when what is needed is big
• Going too bold, too far, too soon before ‘massaging it” into the system
• Over-owning what is, and the self-imposed demand to solve
• OD/HR speak/language that loses and/or turns off oth...
2021-05-2517 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODCEO Flaws and Why They MatterCEOs are human and, as a result, imperfect. They all possess flaws that if left unattended, diminish both their impact as well as that of the team reporting to them. In this episode, Bob’n Joyce discuss common flaws they have observed and their unintended consequences.
Here are some of the common flaws they discuss:
• Blind spots – The failure to ask the question, “What am I not seeing?”
• The discipline to stay on message
• Pulling from the same bag of tricks
• Delivering and receiving tough messages
2021-05-1824 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODCulture – An Invisible PowerA company needs a culture that supports the business and energizes its employees. In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce:
• Attempt to define what culture is and why it matters.
• Suggest a fun tool to diagnose an existing culture.
• Describe an intervention of 2,500 people to co-create a vision and culture.
Come in, grab a snack, Welcome!
2021-05-1136 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODHonor Thy ManagersIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce focus on line supervisors, and middle managers who are critical to getting the important work done. Unfortunately, this group is often neglected, marginalized and, at worse, maligned. Bob’nJoyce discuss the importance of managers to business success and how OD/HR can design processes that empower and reward them.
In this episode, you will get:
• Practical and far out ideas that makes managers feel seen and heard.
• Using pay and power to recognize the importance of line-managers.
• An intervention that empowers both managers and the CEOs.
• The power of ‘what ifs...
2021-05-0342 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODManaging the Discomfort of TransitionIn this episode, we dig into the challenge of keeping an organization moving forward in times of turbulent transition. Bob ‘n Joyce share resources that have helped them and may help listeners today. Turbulence and change are the new normal. There are good nuggets to be mined in this episode.
2021-04-2027 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODMeeting Magic and GaffesIn Episode 14, we lean into the discomfort of learning from meeting facilitation gone awry. If you are doing bold work, you are bound to get stuck when you and others have no idea what you are doing or where you are going.
Today Bob and Joyce discuss what do when your meeting plan isn’t working for you or participants. They discuss the role of metaphor, asking good questions, coming clean, and improvisation as means to work through these cringe-worthy moments. We all experience a flat meeting where you are leading. That is the gaffe. The magic is...
2021-04-1326 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD2021 Leadership ReimaginedOld patterns and norms of leadership just don’t work anymore. In this Episode, Bob ‘n Joyce share the Big “C’s” of Leading – a framework for reimagining 2021 leadership. Modern leaders must lead differently to unleash organizational potential. They must skip a generation of leadership learning and leap into modern leading, learning while they are in mid-air. Only the most Courageous (one of the “C’s”) of leaders take this on.
2021-03-3028 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODThe Performance Management DilemmaIn Episode 11, Bob’nJoyce take on the topic of best practices in performance management and professional development. They share what worked well, what didn’t work at all, and the lessons they have learned along the way.
Bob and Joyce cover:
• The importance of open and frequent performance conversations
• Why so many people whose jobs are on the line don’t know it
• Moving from adversarial to productive performance dialogue
• The magic of “in the moment” feedback
Performance management continues to be hard to get right. Join us in the quagmire where pun...
2021-03-2332 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODHacks and Hiccups - Part 2In this Podcast, Bob and Joyce continue to share funny, quirky, and true events that didn't work too well (we needed 2 episodes because we have so many). This episode reminds us that learning often comes from painful, cringing moments. It also reminds us of the value of having a work buddy to lean into. Some show flaws in the work. Some show courage. All are funny now but terrifying when they happened. Joyce and Bob cover: Recovering from a micro-aggression - maintaining your integrity in chaos - the burden of the HR/OD role - When and how to...
2021-03-1823 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODHacks and HiccupsIn this Podcast, Bob and Joyce share funny, quirky, and true events that didn’t work so well. Many are funny in retrospect and show the need to pivot in the moment. Some show courage. Some show flaws in the work itself. And some show the ethical
dilemmas that have to be navigated in doing OD/HR work inside an organization.
Joyce and Bob cover:
—large event disasters
—Board meeting blow-up
—Right sizing done well and not so well
—A warm-up gone astray
—Some hacks learned from the hiccups
2021-03-0232 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODLearning Groups – Part 2 – Interview with Scott HarrisonIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce interview Scott Harrison, one of the original members of Hannaford’s first store manager learning group. We invited Scott to Bob’nJoyce because as the old saying goes, “The proof in the pudding is in the eating.” Scott shares his recollection of the experience and how it transformed him and his fellow store managers. Some 30 years later, Scott describes how being a member of this learning group shaped his leadership as a C-suite executive at Food Lion, LLC.
2021-02-0937 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODLearning Groups - A Switch From Training to LearningWhat would you do if your training budget was cut right before you were ready to launch a well thought out, integrated approach to store manager training? This is exactly what Joyce faced when she introduced learning groups as a ‘work around’ to her budget woes. Bob ‘n Joyce will explore this thing called learning groups- what they are, how they work, and how they transformed the work culture in retail.
2021-02-0236 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODHR OD Approaches to Dealing With TraumaIn this episode, Bob and Joyce talk about the fact that we, in the US and the world, are going through more than one trauma. They talk about trauma as shockingly fast change done to you, not with you. They share practices and approaches that they have used for companies and for individuals.
They mention:
Bill Bridges work on change
What behaviors work in trauma chaos
A tool--the polarity continuum
The importance of HR/OD in teaching new ways of being in a work community
Ways to have conversations of profound differences
2021-01-1229 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODHooked on ODIn this episode, Bob’nJoyce share why they love OD. They are not alone. Leaders in HR and the C-suite are increasingly looking to OD to motivate employees in achieving organizational goals. So what is this thing we call OD and why is it a powerful discipline to unleash an organization’s potential?
They cover:
What excites them most about OD
Why OD/HR is so fundamental to what is happening in the world today
The importance of policy development on a culture
The energy and power of OD done well
2020-11-2414 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWho are Bob 'n Joyce?Join Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford as they dive into what you can expect when listening to the Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Podcast. With new episodes each week, tune in to hear their tips, tricks, and hacks for Human Resources and Organizational Development. Learn about their experiences, why they started this podcast, and stay around for the laughs. View more information at www.bobnjoyce.com.
2020-11-1021 min
Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODWelcome to the Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Podcast!Welcome to the Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Podcast.
Meet us, find our why we are doing this podcast, and what our hope is for you, our listeners.
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2020-11-0901 min