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WDI Podcast
RFP - ‘The Change’ by Germaine Greer, discussed by Anna Kerr and Bronwyn Williams.
‘The Change’ by Germaine Greer, discussed by Anna Kerr and Bronwyn Williams.A live webinar recorded on 23rd March 2025 at 10am UK time.On Sundays (10am UK time), our webinar series Radical Feminist Perspectives offers a chance to hear leading feminists discuss radical feminist theory and politics.Attendance of our live webinars is women-only, register at https://bit.ly/registerRFP
2025-03-23
1h 00
NB Publishers
Bronwyn Williams discussing the trends that will affect our future at the Business Ink Tank 2024
"The average household here [in South Africa] is 40% poorer than they were in the year 2016." Bronwyn Williams discuss the impact AI and technology will have on our future. 'The Future', written by Bronwyn Williams, Dion Chang, and Faeeza Khan, explains 80 key trends to anyone who is anxious or excited about thriving in the uncertain decade ahead. This discussion was recorded at The Business Ink Tank, on 20 September 2024.
2024-12-06
29 min
FLAT CHAT WRAP
Triple threat: Guide gaps, dodgy contracts and rotting blocks
Three big stories get most of our attention in this week’s podcast.Firstly there’s the publication of the new Guide to Strata Living, which earns some praise, but a few brickbats from JimmyT. You can judge for yourself HERE, where there are also links to the actual guide for you to download.Then there’s the recent attack on unfair strata management contracts by eminent construction lawyer Bronwyn Weir. And, once you’ve listen to the podcast, you might want to read more about it HERE and HERE (with links to the original ABC news s...
2024-11-20
25 min
Women's Biz Leaders with Annie Gibbins
Ep 6: Unmasking Shame - The Leading Cause of Workplace Bias with Bronwyn Williams | Women's Biz Leaders
In this episode of Women's Biz Leaders, Annie Gibbins dives deep into the intersection of bias and shame with Bronwyn Williams, a distinguished author and esteemed keynote speaker. Discover how shame influences workplace bias and explore strategies to recognise, address, and overcome these biases for a healthier workplace culture. Intersection of Bias and Shame: Bronwyn Williams shares profound insights on how bias and shame intersect and influence each other in various contexts. Unconscious Bias: Understand how the hidden nature of unconscious bias contributes to its pervasive impact in workplaces, institutions, and society at large. Superheroes in...
2024-07-01
13 min
The Armen Show
430: Bronwyn Williams | Saving South Africa From Itself In “Rescuing Our Republic”
Returning guest Bronwyn Williams joins host Armen Shirvanian to discuss her book ‘Rescuing Our Republic’ and the specific challenges faced by South Africa. She explains the collaborative effort behind the book and how it addresses relevant issues in politics, economics, and society. One of the main themes discussed is the division and inequality in South Africa, particularly in Johannesburg, where high walls and gated communities separate the rich from the poor. Bronwyn also explores the tendency to blame the wrong people for inequality and the need to focus on the present rather than dwelling on the past.
2024-06-26
51 min
PAGECAST
Pagecast at Kingsmead Book Fair 2024: Bronwyn Williams
In this captivating discussion, Pagecast host Kelly Ansara engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Bronwyn Williams, a renowned futurist, economist, and business trends analyst. Bronwyn earns her living as a ‘court jester,’ consulting to clients in both the public and private sectors worldwide. As a partner at Flux Trends and an associate at Futurist.com, her research delves into how macro socio-economic trends and emerging technologies will shape businesses, industries, and nations in the short and long term. Join us as we explore her latest book, The Future Starts Now - Expert Insights into the Future of Business, Tech...
2024-05-27
07 min
Mindchimp Podcast
Bronwyn Williams
On today's show, we discuss: The Evolution of a Futurist: Bronwyn shared her journey from being an economist to becoming a futurist. She talked about how her career evolved and the influences that shaped her path. The Role of AI and Digital Identity: We delved into the future of AI and its potential to become a central part of our lives, almost like a 'god'. Bronwyn also touched on the concept of digital identities and how they are becoming increasingly integrated with our personal and professional lives. The Future of Work...
2024-05-13
1h 19
Navigating the Twenties
Algorithms or Autonomy: Are we losing control of our lives? - with Futurist Bronwyn Williams
In this captivating episode of the Navigating the Twenties podcast, your host dives deep into the evolving landscape of identity, choice, and activism with polymath Bronwyn Williams. Bronwyn, a renowned Futurist, Economist, Business Trends Analyst and Partner at Fluxtrends, brings over a decade's worth of expertise to the table, challenging conventional assumptions about the present and future.Join us as we explore the intriguing concept of self-identity in the digital age. Are we merely the sum of algorithms shaping our choices? Bronwyn sheds light on this thought-provoking topic and delves into t...
2024-03-20
57 min
The Furious Curious
104. Getting Rewarded for Your Weirdness (feat. Bronwyn Williams of Flux Trends)
Today I’m joined again by Futurist Bronwyn Williams to talk about leaning into your own weirdness, getting rewarded for it, and how the future is a team sport, plus… what’s really going on with the new space race, identifying the new signals of change, and much more. Bronwyn, aptly known as the "Chaos Whisperer," is a foresight leader and trend analyst at Flux Trends, She is a futurist, economist, consultant, and global keynote speaker. She is on a mission to decode the intricate patterns of chaos. Her expertise lies in making sense out of the...
2024-03-12
42 min
The Corporate Escapists Podcast
Unlocking Your Natural Gifts with Bronwyn Jane | Episode 137
Ever wondered how you can learn to trust your gut? In this episode we re sitting down with Bronwyn Jane and talking about resiliency, tapping into your own natural psychic abilities. GET THE LATEST ISSUE OF THE CORPORATE ESCAPISTS MAGAZINE NOW: https://www.thecorporateescapists.com/the-corporate-escapists-magazine/ ABOUT OUR GUEST, Bronwyn Jane Bronwyn Jane is a rare bridge between the physical and spiritual realms. In 2017, she left a thriving retail business to embrace her calling as a psychic medium. Guided by mentor like...
2024-03-06
37 min
The Furious Curious
102. The Future: Absurdity, Chaos, Speculation (feat. Bronwyn Williams of Flux Trends)
Today we're joined by Futurist Bronwyn Williams to talk about The Future... more specifically, we'll dive into the hidden rationalism of absurdity, how the impossible has become quite possible, speculation versus prediction, and having all of us get a lot more comfortable with chaos. This is part one of our conversation. Bronwyn, aptly known as the "Chaos Whisperer," is a foresight leader and trend analyst at Flux Trends, She is a futurist, economist, consultant, and global keynote speaker. She is on a mission to decode the intricate patterns of chaos. Her expertise lies in making...
2024-03-05
34 min
The Chorus
The Chorus #90: The Foundational Episode, Or Avoiding Being Left Behind
Last episode for the year, a return visit for our first three-time guest, Bronwyn Williams, who has a new book out: Rescuing Our Republic, co-written with Ludwig Raal, in which she asks the heavy, world-shifting questions so we can keep talking about the equally important stuff, like books, music, film and theatre. Thank you for all your support this year. Keep suggestions for topics and chats coming, along with offers of sponsorship, payable in cash, coffee, whiskey or guitars. You're all lovely. Happy Christmas and a merry New Year. Reviewed this week:
2023-12-20
57 min
Mizter Rad Show
24. The Quantification Society: Unraveling Social Credit Scores. Feat. Futurist and Economist Bronwyn Williams.
Welcome back to another episode of Mizter Rad Show, where we explore intriguing ideas and challenges at the intersection of technology, society, and the future. In this episode, we have a fascinating conversation with Bronwyn Williams, a futurist economist and partner at Flux Trends. In our broad-ranging discussion, we delve into the complexities of quantification in modern society, such as carbon credit scores, and how our desire for control is shaping this trend. We'll pull back the curtain on how this trend is subtly affecting women's leadership, reshaping the workplace, and posing potential threats to fairness and individual privacy. We...
2023-11-22
1h 06
Boldyn Networks' Connected Commute
3. Reimagining Transportation with Bronwyn Williams
Chris Burchett from Boldyn Networks is talking to Bronwyn Williams, a globally known futurist from South Africa, where they discuss her role in challenging norms, setting future expectations in travel, and reimagining transportation through connectivity, sustainability, and shared experiences.
2023-10-18
54 min
Amplify You
Selling Luxury/ Interview with Bronwyn Leigh Jones
Australian native and single mother, Bronwyn Leigh Jones is an unstoppable force in modern real estate. With an eye for design, fierce ambition, and almost two decades of residing in Los Angeles and Orange County, Bronwyn has forged her own path in the real estate world, aligning luxury with sustainable innovations. Throughout her modeling and acting career, she has appeared in numerous TV Series in Australia and the UK, including the TV drama “Neighbours”, syndicated to an audience of over 70 million people worldwide. Bronwyn studied business administration at Williams Business College in Sydney, Australia and she is the...
2023-09-18
18 min
The Future of You
The Discussion: Biometrics: The Rights And The Responsibilities #23
In this episode of The Discussion I speak to Andrew Bud, Founder and CEO of iProov, the world leader in biometric face verification. We discuss the importance of keeping ahead of security in biometrics, the advantages of face biometrics over the iris or palm - and what he thinks about the future of anonymity.I also speak with Bronwyn Williams, a futurist and economist based in South Africa. We discuss the issues that could arise from a single company becoming the centralised global infrastructure for digital identities ie Worldcoin’s World ID. Tracey's book 'The Fut...
2023-08-17
1h 13
Future Fuzz - The Digital Marketing Podcast
EP.48 - Bronwyn Williams - AI, where are we heading? A futurist & economist perspective.
In the last episode before the summer break I speak to the brilliantly minded Bronwyn Williams who works for Flux Trends and is based in South Africa. We talk about AI, and how it's going to impact our professional and personal lives. We also dive into the world of bullshit jobs and ask the question: "Will AI really bring any major short term benefits?" "Will AI lead to job losses?" We speak about the book Bullshit Jobs which you can find here About Bronwyn:
2023-07-14
31 min
The Ridiculously Human Podcast
Bronwyn Williams, Futurist, Economist, Trend Analyst, Professional “Court Jester”
This conversation was absolutely fantastic. Bronwyn’s insights, worldview, knowledge, and the way she articulates her outlook on life and the world, is inspiring for anyone to listen to! Her revealed optimism and philosophical perspective on the future and what it holds, will get you excited about the future and what opportunities await us. In what can sometimes seem like a bit of a dystopian and robotic future, Bronwyn will highlight the reasons why there is a lot to look forward to and that the human spirit will rise, as we will always have a necessity for ou...
2023-06-11
1h 29
Label Sessions Presents...
E8: Futurism and Trend Analysis with Bronwyn Williams
In this episode, Maxine Mackie of Label Sessions talks to Bronwyn Williams.Bronwyn is a leading futurist and chaos whisperer, working as the foresight lead and trend analyst of South African-based agency Flux Trends.From hosting her own series of talks in “What The Future Now?” to co-authoring the futurist insight book “The Future Starts Now”, Bronwyn is passionate about her mission to understand the world and create a better future for us all.Label Sessions is a global platform that connects you to the best advice from the most interesting people, whether you want...
2023-06-07
51 min
The Armen Show
390: Bronwyn Williams & Rebecca Faith Lawson | Narrative, Optimism, Investment In A Life, And More
Welcome to a great multi-person discussion on episode 390 of the show, with two past guests returning to the program. In person with me during this recording in Florida is returning guest Rebecca Faith Lawson, while we have Bronwyn Williams of South Africa returning to the show remotely. We go over a few discussion topics that originated from current thoughts and happenings, as well as from Bronwyn’s recent short clips on her Substack. These include: those who take advantage of others and those who are taken advantage of the return on investment in a life physical bo...
2023-04-22
59 min
20 Minutes with Bronwyn
The Art of Asking Better Questions: My Conversation with Marc Champagne
Feeling out of control? Stressed? Overwhelmed? What if relief was just one question away? My guest today is the fantastic and delightful Marc Champagne. Marc is a mental fitness strategist, host of the Behind the Human podcastan, and best selling author of Personal Socrates: Questions That Will Upgrade Your Life from Legends & World-Class Performers. Marc is a connoisseur of questions that will change you. He has gathered juicy questions and prompts from legends as wide ranging as Pablo Picasso, Robin Williams and Jane Austen. This conversation felt like a blood transfusion...
2023-03-28
36 min
The Machinist
Protopia, Not Utopia
Podcast: Discourse ZAEpisode: Protopia, Not UtopiaPub date: 2023-03-16Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationBronwyn Williams & Monika Bielskyte | The Small Print In this episode, Bronwyn speaks to futurist Monika Bielskyte. They talk about Monika’s latest project, “Protopia Futures”, which rejects the false binary of dystopian and utopian visions, and is based on principles of plurality, creativity, and the evolution of values. They also discuss the issues of gatekeeping in the futurist space, and some of the problems with the “longtermis...
2023-03-22
1h 15
The Chorus
The Chorus - Episode 72: Bronwyn Williams Is Trendy, Or Nope To A Rainbow Nation
It's the end of the year (and Spotify tells us we're 87% up in streams, so thank you so much for your support). We welcome back our very first guest, trends analyst and rabid reader Bronwyn Williams, and some of what she says is sad, but she brought whiskey to share, so that's ok. Truth is scarier than fiction on the page and screen, but it's ok because great live music brings joy and maybe we're in a German wormhole so none of it matters. This and other important insights this week. We'll be back in the new year, still...
2022-12-15
1h 08
Mind the Shift
94. Unless We Adapt We Go Extinct – Bronwyn Williams
In this second Mind the Shift conversation with futurist and trend analyst Bronwyn Williams, we zoom in on population, Africa, money and what it is to be a human. (Unfortunately, we had a bit of bad luck with the audiovisual tech during our call, apologies for that.) Bronwyn communicates intelligently and with a high level of energy, which makes her flow of thoughts and information dense. You are well advised to listen more than once to what she has to say. When people talk about the future, we are often distracted by shiny...
2022-11-10
48 min
The Armen Show
368: Bronwyn Williams | Futurism, Business Trends, And Economics
Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, and business trends analyst. “Bronwyn, from Johannesburg, South Africa has a background which includes experience in strategic management, trend research and foresight; consulting to clients in the public and private sector across the African continent. Her educational credentials include tertiary qualifications in Marketing Management (University of Johannesburg), Economics (University of London), Foresight (University of Manchester), and Future Studies (University of Stellenbosch). She is currently completing a Masters in Applied Economics from the University of Bath. Today, Bronwyn’s research focuses on how macro socio-economic trends and emerging technologies will impa...
2022-10-11
1h 14
Leadership at the edge
Being Future-Ready with Bronwyn Williams.
On the new episode of Leadership at the edge, the Institute of Leadership & Management’s CEO, John Mark Williams, joined by Futurist, Economist and Business Trend Analyst, Bronwyn Williams, explore the intriguing topic of future readiness and delving into superficial diversity, the choosing not to choose mindset, and much more.
2022-08-29
32 min
Intuitive Awakening
Psychic Medium Bronwyn Jane
Today’s guest is Bronwyn Jane. Brownwyn is an Internationally certified Psychic Medium and has studied with world renowned Psychic Mediums like Lisa Williams and Graham Smith. She is a quantum spiritual healer, spiritual coach, and an advanced lightworker with ten plus years worth of experience who lives in Australia. In 2020, Bronwyn launched the Metaphysical Education Centre, providing online and in-person coaching and development programs. Bronwyn has a passion for supporting parents of psychic children. Her approach to spiritual education is nurturing, insightful, and empowering. In this episode we discuss some of the following and more: 1. What...
2022-06-05
56 min
The Bird Emergency
Urban Powerful Owls with Bronwyn Isaac
When I was a youngster, I used to imagine being able to venture into the dense schlerophyll eucalyptus forests of eastern Australia with the chance to see the majestic, slightly terrifying but aptly named Powerful Owl. This bird is the largest of the Australian owls, and has adapted to living in the suburbs and cities, as agriculture, forestry, bushfires and urban sprawl alter or eliminate the preferred habitat of this possum hunter. Bronwyn Isaac has studied some of the Powerful Owls that have moved into the suburbs of Melbourne, and have become successfully established. Hear ab...
2022-04-22
1h 26
The Bird Emergency
Urban Powerful Owls with Bronwyn Isaac
When I was a youngster, I used to imagine being able to venture into the dense schlerophyll eucalyptus forests of eastern Australia with the chance to see the majestic, slightly terrifying but aptly named Powerful Owl. This bird is the largest of the Australian owls, and has adapted to living in the suburbs and cities, as agriculture, forestry, bushfires and urban sprawl alter or eliminate the preferred habitat of this possum hunter. Bronwyn Isaac has studied some of the Powerful Owls that have moved into the suburbs of Melbourne, and have become successfully established. Hear ab...
2022-04-22
1h 26
FuturePod
EP 132: On foresight as agency - Bronwyn Williams
As a Trend Analyst, Bronwyn shares her insights on the dilemmas we face in society and how we need to hold on to choice in an increasingly homogenous world. Interviewed by: Reanna Browne
2022-04-02
44 min
Solutions With David Ansara
Bronwyn Williams on technology and freedom
In this episode of the Solutions With David Ansara podcast, I speak with futurist, Bronwyn Williams of Flux Trends, about the relationship between technology and freedom. Bronwyn and I talk about the growing tendency of people to willingly reduce their individual freedom for the sake of technological convenience. Outsourcing your decision-making to automated algorithms will gradually erode your personal agency, she says. We also delve into behavioural economics and discuss the moral problems with 'nudging' people to make decisions they would not have made otherwise. So-called 'Libertarian Paternalism' is an...
2022-02-06
55 min
Discourse ZA
Resisting the Surveillance State
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to investigative journalist Heidi Swart about the rise of surveillance initiatives in South Africa. They discuss the increase in security cameras on South African streets and suburbs, the overreach of private security companies, and why more surveillance could mean less — not more — safety. They also explore issues around big tech and data, why privacy matters, and what citizens can do to better protect themselves. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day job as a partner at Flux...
2021-12-16
52 min
Discourse ZA
Robot Love: Science, Sex, and Artificial Companionship
The idea of the seductive sex robot is the stuff of myth, legend and science fiction. From the myth of Laodamia in Ancient Greece to twenty-first century shows such as Westworld, robots in human form have captured our imagination, our hopes and our fears. But beyond the fantasies there are real and fundamental questions about our relationship with technology as it moves into the realm of robotics. In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to computer scientist and sex-robot expert Kate Devlin about how the emerging and future development of sexual companion robots might affect us and...
2021-12-09
50 min
SGM
#33 Bronwyn Williams - Futurism, Decentralization and buying Land in the Metaverse
How does one become a Futurist? What do they do and how can they benefit your business? We look at decentralization within the context of the rising metaverse and buying digital land. Bronwyn Williams is a Futurist, Economist and Business Trends Analyst at Flux Trends Connect with Flux Trends https://www.fluxtrends.com/Follow SGM across Social Media https://linktr.ee/SGMPODCAST
2021-12-01
16 min
Discourse ZA
Early Childhood Development: An Investment in Our Future
Meeting the social and educational needs of South Africa’s youngest and most vulnerable children is fundamental to economic prosperity, political stability, the advancement of democracy and nation-building. Yet, when it comes to election manifestos and political rhetoric, the topic of early childhood development remains largely ignored. In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to Professor Eric Atmore, Director of the Centre for Early Childhood Development (ECD), about the lack of political will to make ECD a priority, the bureaucratic nightmare of accessing the Covid-19 relief fund, and why ECD should be a cause championed by all of...
2021-11-11
53 min
Discourse ZA
The Liberal Case for Vaccine Passes
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn is joined by columnist and renowned libertarian Ivo Vegter. In a recent article for The Daily Friend, Vegter defends the idea of vaccine passes, which some of his critics consider antithetical to his libertarian principles. Together, Bronwyn and Vegter explore the merits of that charge, the pros and cons of vaccine passes and similar proposals, and the limitations of libertarianism when dealing with a public health crisis. Ivo’s article: https://bit.ly/3CYVQzX Articles mentioned: https://bbc.in/2ZWZETU https://nbcnews.to/3wg...
2021-11-04
1h 02
Discourse ZA
Total Sustainability and the New Dark Age
In this episode of The Small Print, Brownyn speaks to fellow futurist Dr Ian Pearson. They talk about some of the issues surrounding the contemporary environmental movement, which is characterised by good intentions but bad policy recommendations. Bronwyn and Ian discuss the need to become sustainable from a holistic perspective, which requires us to ensure that environmental protection does not come at the cost of human cultural aspects such as politics, economics and social harmony. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day job as a...
2021-10-28
53 min
Discourse ZA
The Value of Our Land
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to Wandile Sihlobo, author of the book “Finding Common Ground: Land, Equity, and Agriculture.” They discuss the contentious and complex issue of land reform, striving for restorative justice without sacrificing value creation, the urgent need for agricultural policy to address gender equity and youth involvement, and how agriculture can drive development and job creation in South Africa. Book: https://bit.ly/3B7yvKE --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day job as a partner at F...
2021-10-21
50 min
Discourse ZA
The Commodification of Everything
The Commodification of Everything In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to writer, mother, and modern heretic, Mary Harrington. They talk about the cultural shift in the way people understand sexual relationships and the transactional nature of modern life. The conversation evolves into a discussion about the commodification of our bodies more generally (e.g. national healthcare), why capitalism is not an antidote to authoritarianism, the class politics of scarcity, and the myth of progress. Article: https://www.plough.com/en/topics/life/relationships/love-in-the-marketplace --- Bronwyn W...
2021-10-14
1h 02
Discourse ZA
The “Green Redlining” of Africa
Western nations have not acted in good faith when it comes to the supply of vaccines. Why should African nations think they will act differently when it comes to climate negotiations? In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to Gyude Moore, Senior Policy Fellow at the Center for Global Development. They discuss the need for African countries to unite to improve their negotiating position on the world stage. While Western leaders often engage in idle talk of being a global community, the Covid-19 pandemic has shown that, in a time of crisis, it’s everyone fo...
2021-10-07
55 min
Discourse ZA
Can Democracy Survive Information Overload?
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to futurist Manish Bahl about the daily deluge of information and the impact it has on society. They speak about information overload, the difference between misinformation and disinformation, and what steps governments, tech companies, and individuals can take to curb the spread of “fake news”. Should we regulate or educate? Who watches the watchdogs? It is a wide-ranging conversation that also delves into the tension between the wisdom and the madness of crowds, the myth of privacy, and the AI arms race to win the information wars. ---
2021-09-30
49 min
Discourse ZA
The Future of You
'Who am I?' is one of the most fundamental questions of all. But it is becoming increasingly difficult to answer as technology enables us to negotiate and create many different versions of ourselves. In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to fellow futurist Tracey Follows about her book “The Future of You: Can Your Identity Survive 21st-Century Technology?” Together they discuss the tension between the collective and the individual, and how our personal freedoms and potential will be transformed over the coming decades. In our digital, data-driven world, Facebook gets a say in verifying who...
2021-09-23
1h 03
Transform Talks: The Supply Chain Transformation Podcast
#93 - The Implications of a Tech-Reliant Future on Business & Society with Bronwyn Williams and Theo Priestley
This week we are joined by Bronwyn Williams and Theo Priestley. Bronwyn is a partner at Flux Trends and has over a decade's experience in strategic management, trend research, and foresight, consulting clients in the public and private sector across the African continent. Theo is a globally recognized futurist and authority on the future of business, technology, and society. Theo has published more than 100 articles on IoT, AI, fintech, smart cities, education, healthcare, marketing, digital transformation, and VR for Forbes, The European, WIRED, Huffington Post, VentureBeat, GigaOM, and The Times Raconteur. The pair recently joined forces to co-author, The...
2021-09-20
28 min
Discourse ZA
The Fate of South Africa
Why do property rights matter anyway? Is the South African expropriation bill really that big of a deal? And what do the proposed constitutional amendments really mean for ordinary citizens? In the episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to CEO of the Center for Risk Analysis, Frans Cronje, about the current — and future — state of South Africa. It is a wide-ranging conversation that covers the highs of the Mbeki era, the psychology behind rejecting unpleasant information, South Africa’s debt crisis, the looming expropriation bill, and the ANC’s prospects for the 2024 elections. --- Br...
2021-09-16
58 min
Win @ Work and Life podcast with Nikki Bush
Ep 23. TRADE-OFFS AND CHOICES THAT COME WITH DISRUPTION with Bronwyn Williams
Nikki Bush in conversation with futurist, economist and trends analyst, Bronwyn Williams about past, the present and the future. Bronwyn is a partner at Flux Trends with Deon Chang. Her research focuses on how macro socio-economic trends and emerging technologies will impact businesses, industries, and nations in the near and long term future. She is a guest lectures for leading business schools and is the the co-author of The Future Starts Now, published by Bloomsbury UK. She is a regular guest in the media and is also a member of the Association of Professional Futurists. For more information visit...
2021-09-15
47 min
Discourse ZA
Can We Trust Our Robot Overlords?
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to Dr Beth Singler, the Junior Research Fellow in Artificial Intelligence at Homerton College, University of Cambridge. Together they explore the social, ethical, philosophical and religious implications of advances in Artificial Intelligence and robotics. Do we put too much faith in algorithms? How do different cultures respond to rapid technological change? They look at the dangers of AI entrenching inequality instead of alleviating it, the religious elements in the transhumanist movement, and the slight weirdness of the effective altruism community. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist...
2021-09-09
54 min
In Conversation
Mastering art and ceramics
She considers herself "a quiet anarchist" who keeps things simple. In so doing Bronwyn Williams-Ellis RCA lets her work speak for itself. http://www.creativecoverage.co.uk/craftspeople/item/208-bronwyn-williams-ellis
2021-09-07
27 min
The Family Finance Show
Future Trends for Finance and Family
In this wide-ranging conversation economist and futurist, Bronwyn Williams talks about macro trends, businesses that solve the biggest human problems, financial freedom, the future of education for our children, and a fascinating view on the impact and implications of cryptocurrencies. A recurring theme, which stood out for me was the importance, especially in South Africa, of being self-sufficient - both in the sense of being financially independent as well as not being dependent on an employer for a traditional job. If you’d like to know more on the topic of cryp...
2021-08-31
33 min
Discourse ZA
The Abolition of Suffering
Whether it's losing a loved one or stubbing a toe, suffering is an inescapable part of life. But does it have to be? In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to philosopher and transhumanist David Pearce, who posits the radical idea that all forms of suffering should be abolished from every living creature on earth — and explains how genetic engineering and nanotechnology can make this ambitious project a reality. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day job as a partner at Flux Trends in...
2021-08-19
52 min
Discourse ZA
The Future of Meat
Have you heard of cultivated meat? Produced through cellular agriculture, cultivated meat is meat — grown directly from cells without the need to slaughter animals. What is the process behind it? Why would people want to eat it? Is it healthy? Who is working on it? In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to Brett Thompson, CEO of Mzansi Meat Co., Africa's first cultivated meat company. They have a wide-ranging conversation about what motivated him to start Mzansi Meat Co; the impact cultivated meat will have on our health, our society and our environment; the regulatory challenges of wo...
2021-08-12
1h 09
Discourse ZA
The Quest for Immortality
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to the transhumanist Zoltan Istvan. They talk about his goal of ending ageing, and ultimately death; his 2016 presidential campaign and what it was like to advocate for transhumanism in the bible belt; the tension between individual and collective interests in the transhumanist movement; and why religion poses a major obstacle on the quest to cheat death. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day job as a partner at Flux Trends involves helping business leaders to use...
2021-08-05
28 min
Discourse ZA
Apartheid 2.0
South Africa’s story is often presented as a triumph of new over old, but while formal apartheid was abolished decades ago, stark and distressing similarities persist. In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh about his latest book, “The New Apartheid”, in which he explores the edifice of systemic racial oppression that continues to thrive, despite or even because of our democratic system. The New Apartheid: https://sizwempofuwalsh.com/product/thenewapartheid --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day jo...
2021-07-29
1h 03
Discourse ZA
#UnrestSA: A Conversation with Ryan Cummings
“Every society is three meals away from chaos” - Vladimir Lenin In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn is joined by Ryan Cummings of Signal Risk to unpack the facts and the fallacies behind the July 2021 riots. What should we be worried about? And what is just noise and distraction? --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day job as a partner at Flux Trends involves helping business leaders to use foresight to design the future they want to live and work in. You...
2021-07-20
1h 05
Unbundled
Digital Landlords (featuring Bronwyn Williams)
As a salaried employee, you are selling your time. So what happens when the trade-off becomes time based vs productivity based? Have you ever considered that as our workplace becomes more digitised, micro management via software is what could quantify your output? Working remotely has you comparing yourself only against yourself - how are you faring? Do you have the personality trait, working style and ethic to get that pay increase or promotion? Jaco speaks to futurist, economist, strategist and trend analyst, Bronwyn Williams. Catalytic
2021-07-20
30 min
Discourse ZA
Manufactured Inequality
Slowly, then suddenly. Whether we are talking about inflation, inequality, or creeping authoritarianism; the slippery slope is rapidly turning into a point of no return. In this wide-ranging episode, Bronwyn Williams and Russell Lamberti unpack the hidden risks and costs of inflation and other forms of “financial socialism”, why short, sharp shocks are to be preferred to long (social) illnesses, and why we should be allowed to ask uncomfortable questions about taboo topics. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day job as a partner at Flux...
2021-07-15
1h 42
The AI in Business Podcast
[AI Futures - S2E3] AI's Economic Impact in a Future of Digital/Virtual Immersion - with Bronwyn Williams
Today's guest is Bronwyn Williams, partner at Flux Trends, a foresight and advisory firm based in South Africa, and Co-Author of "The Future Starts Now," published in April 2021. Today, Bronwyn shares her perspective on how strong artificial intelligence might impact society in Africa. She also discusses the unique ways technology is being adopted in Africa might mold future trends in the economy and the future of the human experience. If you are interested in more interviews about the future of artificial intelligence across industries, check out the AI Futures Series on AI in Business podcast on all major platforms...
2021-07-03
58 min
Discourse ZA
Rebooting Our Politics
The tech revolution is the central political challenge of our time. As technological advances continue to accelerate, political institutions with their roots in the previous century are struggling to adapt. In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn is joined by Chris Yiu, executive director at the Tony Blair Institute, to talk about the challenges of governing in the 21st century. They discuss the pros and cons of governance by technology, the need to reform political parties for the internet era, and how we can improve the dialogue between those changing the world with new technologies and those seeking...
2021-07-01
53 min
Discourse ZA
Why Nations Succeed
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn is joined by Professor Adrian Saville to discuss his research on economic development. What factors are necessary for prosperity? What can South Africa do to get its economy back on track? They talk about the importance of access to adequate healthcare, the need for a high savings rate, the role of education, the surprising benefits of single-party states in creating a stable policy environment, and more. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day job as a partner...
2021-06-24
49 min
Discourse ZA
Entering the Posthuman Era
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to Dan Faggella, founder of Emerj AI Research, about the posthuman era. What does it entail? Has it already begun? Who will be our digital landlords? Bronwyn and Dan discuss how brain-machine interface technology and VR may help us escape the hedonic treadmill, the Hikikomori phenomenon in Japan, the companies and countries looking to control the AI substrate, the moral standing of “normal” humans in a posthuman world, and more. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day...
2021-06-10
1h 00
Modern Wisdom
#330 - Theo Priestley & Bronwyn Williams - What Will The Future Look Like?
Theo Priestley and Bronwyn Jones are futurists, trend analysts and authors.The future is supposed to be ours to choose, but who is educated enough to tell us if we're going in the wrong direction?Theo & Bronwyn brought together the world's leading futurists to articulate, clarify and predict the current trajectories in all the areas of life that you care about, like the future of warfare, education, transport, politics, economics, space travel, relationships and more.Sponsors:Get 10% discount on everything from Slater Menswear at https://www.slaters.co.uk/modernwisdom (use...
2021-06-05
1h 12
Book Talk Today with Aun Abdi
#29: The Future Starts Now: Interview with Theo Priestley and Bronwyn Williams
On Episode #29 of the Book Talk Today podcast we're joined by Theo Priestley and Bronwyn Williams. Theo is a globally recognised futurist. He has delivered keynotes internationally and articles have been featured in Forbes and Wired to name a few. Brownyn is a leading futurist and trend analyst. She has presented and consulted to businesses and governments across Africa. 👌📚 We discussed their book ‘The Future Starts Now’, AI and the future of technology and how we will live alongside it. 📚 Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 1:16 - What was the intention with writing this book? 7:3...
2021-05-27
1h 03
InnovationAus Podcast
Commercial Disco: Bronwyn Le Grice ANDHealth Chief Executive and Sally-Anne Williams, Cicada Innovations CEO
There is a need for new policy structures and funding to stimulate innovation across the economy, especially during the COVID recovery period. In this episode of the Commercial Disco, ANDHealth Chief Executive Bronwyn Le Grice and Cicada Innovations CEO Sally-Ann Williams discuss Australia’s innovation ecosystem – and lament the growth of ‘innovation theatre’. Now is the time urgency, they say.
2021-05-20
32 min
Discourse ZA
Navigating Uncertainty
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn speaks to Andrew Blades about how to navigate an uncertain world. They discuss whether Covid could have been predicted, the pros and cons of lockdowns, and the media’s bias toward negativity. Bronwyn and Andrew also talk about the compounding nature of government, the need for cognitive diversity in building a resilient society, and how we can guard ourselves against the tyranny of the minority. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small Print. Her day job as a partner at Fl...
2021-05-13
1h 15
Discourse ZA
Church, Brand, and State
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn is joined by writer Tom Goodwin. They discuss the slippery slope of regulatory creep, brands and business acting as arbiters of justice, the concept of “brand-waggoning”, virtue-signalling versus being virtuous, and self-censorship in times of increased polarization. Bronwyn and Tom also explore possible ways of improving media — both social and mainstream. They look at the shortcomings of paywalling content, the possibility of state-sponsored social media platforms, and the pros and cons of regulatory bodies. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend analyst and host of The Small...
2021-05-06
1h 06
Bad Ideas about Writing
35: Popular Culture is Killing Writing, by Bronwyn T. Williams
Kyle Stedman (@kstedman) reads the bad idea "Popular Culture is Killing Writing," by Bronwyn T. Williams (@bronwyntw). It's a chapter from Bad Ideas about Writing, which was edited by Cheryl E. Ball (@s2ceball) and Drew M. Loewe (@drewloewe). Don't miss the joke: the author of the chapter is disagreeing with the bad idea stated in the chapter's title. Also, oops: I thought using a different mic in a different place would sound "good enough." After recording, I realized too late that that's not true. Sorry for the worse-than-usual quality. Keywords: fan communities, genre, participatory...
2021-04-30
22 min
Discourse ZA
Weighting Our Freedom
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn is joined by Perth Tolle, founder of Life + Liberty Indexes, the world’s first freedom-weighted emerging markets index. What is freedom-weighting? How do you define freedom? They talk about the shortcomings of traditional ETFs, which emerging markets are currently performing best, and why China and Saudi Arabia are excluded from their index. Bronwyn and Perth also discuss China’s “missing women” phenomenon, the relationship between social liberties and long-term economic benefits, and why South Africa’s politically engaged public is a sign of hope. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futur...
2021-04-29
52 min
Discourse ZA
A new New World Order
In this episode of The Small Print, Bronwyn is joined by political scientist Velina Tchakarova to discuss global macro trends in a post-Covid world. Who are the big players shaping the new “New World Order” as USA hegemony is on the decline? What would an alternative global system facilitated by China look like? Will the new system be bipolar or multipolar? Bronwyn and Velina talk about possible alliances between global and regional powers, the importance of controlling the silk route, and the threats and opportunities facing Africa. --- Bronwyn Williams is a futurist, economist, trend anal...
2021-04-22
1h 25
Future-Fit Fridays :)
The Future of NFTs & Blockchain with Bronwyn Williams
On episode 25 we explore the future of NFTs & Blockchain with Bronwyn Williams. A partner at Flux Trends, Bronwyn works extensively in strategic management, trend research and foresight. She is part economist, part strategist, with particular areas of expertise including fintech trends, alternative economic models, and sustainable future design. Drawing from her in-depth expertise, she helps us explore what the future of Non-fungible tokens and Blockchain may bring & some of the key trends influencing this. #NFT #blockchain #future #futureofwork #podcast #podcasters #innovation
2021-04-16
27 min
Listen to Best Full Audiobooks in Non-Fiction, Social Science
The Future Starts Now: Expert Insights into the Future of Business, Technology and Society by Theo Priestley, Bronwyn Williams
Please visit https://thebookvoice.com/podcasts/1/audiobook/489625 to listen full audiobooks. Title: The Future Starts Now: Expert Insights into the Future of Business, Technology and Society Author: Theo Priestley, Bronwyn Williams Narrator: Teri Schnaubelt, Graham Rowat Format: Unabridged Audiobook Length: 6 hours 38 minutes Release date: April 15, 2021 Genres: Social Science Publisher's Summary: Featuring contributions from an international array of futurists, The Future Starts Now provides fascinating insights and guidance into how society and business will transform in the years to come. The future is an uncertain, uncomfortable prospect for employees, employers, and society at large. A flurry of unprecedented events have proven...
2021-04-15
30 min
OTs Get Paid Podcast
S1 E6 - Selling High End Offers with Bronwyn Paynter
In this episode, we find Bronwyn Paynter, in the future! (Insert International Date Line joke here.) Bronwyn is the owner Flourish, which is a nature based approach to occupational therapy located in Adelaide, Australia. Listen up to hear how she balances her J.O.B and her OT business. Episode NotesBronwyn and I discuss: What prompts her to keep a J.O.B. when she's getting paid in her own business? The concept of the "accidental entrepreneur" A sensitive topic w...
2021-03-30
1h 16
Fashion Conversations
Alexander Fury On the Future of Fashion
Over the last month designers in London, New York, Paris, Milan - and some other places - have streamed presentations of their fall/winter 2021 ready-to-wear collections. Alexander Fury - AnOther Magazine’s Fashion Features Director and the Financial Times’ Menswear Critic - joins Bronwyn Cosgrave to assess the direction of fashion for the season ahead and beyond. Alex shares details of the interviews he has conducted over the last year for the FT with some of the most important designers at work right now, including Kim Jones, of Dior and Fendi, Givenchy’s Matthew Williams, as well as Prad...
2021-03-19
35 min
Informing Choices Mini-Pod
The Future of Social Separation with Bronwyn Williams
The Covid-19 pandemic has highlighted social inequalities around the world and yet in some cases, national responses have also provided potential glimpses of how the gap might be narrowed. The question raised by Economist, Trend Analyst, and Futurist Bronwyn Williams in her contribution to the book, Aftershocks and Opportunities –Scenarios for a Post-Pandemic Future (Talwar, R., Wells, S., Whittington, A. Eds (2020). Aftershocks and Opportunities - Scenarios for a Post-Pandemic Future. London, UK: Fast Future) was, “Will 2020 be a great equaliser or a great divider?” So with 2020 as the baseline, I am delighted to welcome Bronwyn to the...
2021-03-14
26 min
TechFirst with John Koetsier
'The Future Starts Now' book: 18 futurists collaborate on visions of tomorrow
Late in 2019 two Theo Priestly and Bronwyn Williams brought together 18 futurists to share visions of tomorrow. I'm super-pumped to have a chapter in the book on our need for an AR cloud commons, and it's coming out in about a month. (Can't wait!) Now that book is available for pre-order. In this episode of TechFirst we chat with a number of those futurists and get some sneak peeks at what's coming. Plus, of course, chat with the editors: Theo and Bronwyn. In this podcast, beside those editors and me: - Kristina Libby
2021-03-13
39 min
The Reading Room with Melanie Walker
#010 Pulp Non Fiction in Person | Bronwyn Williams
Highly effective reading habits of a Successful Reader Bronwyn Williams (Economist / Trend Analyst / Futurist) What insights can this voracious reader impart? Well - Listen Here! If you are at a loss as to what to read that can make your mind take a quantum leap into the future, Bronwyn Williams has a number of interesting insights that will yield quantifiable results! What is she reading? What is she writing about reading and books? Should one actually read the 'must read' books? And what is the philosophy behind reading - and philosophy? Economics...
2021-01-22
41 min
The Experts powered by Media Stable
Bronwyn Williams
There is bias everywhere and sometimes we know it, and, in most cases, it will be an unconscious that exists in our decision making. It isn’t really something that you think about in our own decision making or those of others until you stop for a moment. This was the moment that Lanna and I were fascinated with the chat about our own bias and where it comes from. The places where bias takes place has no boundaries including the family unit, business, socially, and culturally. Bronwyn Williams is a ‘bias and diversity’ expert, and it will have you lookin...
2020-11-30
31 min
Mind the Shift
34. The future starts now – Bronwyn Williams
”A lot of people today are deferring their future to a very limited number of leaders – political leaders and powerful tech company leaders. That’s a tragedy.” ”There is a sense of ’postalgia’: a hankering for the present: ’This is as good as it gets. The future will be worse.’ This is a paralyzing mindset. It can spiral into nihilism”, says the Johannesburg based futurist, trend analyst and economist Bronwyn Williams. She challenges the doom and gloom and points to doors that can lead to a bright future. There is more hope and energy in some of th...
2020-11-18
1h 08
Future Intelligent Leadership Podcast: Exploring Foresight and Leadership for an AI-Augmented World
Episode 26: the role of technology in disabling and building trust, why Sentiment analysis might be a good signal for the past, but a poor signal for the future, why leadership needs to move from deterministic thinking to probabilistic thinking...
EPISODE 26 of the FUTURES INTELLIGENCE LEADERSHIP PODCASTABOUT BRONWYN WILLIAMSBronwyn Williams is a partner and foresight lead / trend analyst for FluxTrends.com and she is the co founder of Apollo42 Which develops brands for the future. She is the Co-Author of a recent book titled “the The Future Starts Now.” ABOUT BILL GENOVESEBill Genovese Chief Technology Officer | Executive Board Director Standard Health Corporation. He is a former VP of Corporate Strategic Research and Planning for Huawei in China. He has over 25 years experience in consu...
2020-11-09
37 min
The Weekly Wrap by Strictly Business
Weekly Wrap with Bronwyn Nielsen, Lindsay Williams, David Shapiro and Gary Booysen
Weekly Wrap with Bronwyn Nielsen, Lindsay Williams, David Shapiro and Gary Booysen
2020-10-30
29 min
20 Minutes with Bronwyn
Why You Need a "Success Bully" : My Conversation with Keita Williams
I am thrilled for you to meet Keita Williams, professional butt-kicker and founder of Success Bully—an elite accountability practice dedicated to supporting high performing “Type A”s who are looking to take their great to GREATER. I talk to lots of performance coaches, but what interested me about Keita's work is the focus on systems of accountability. Research shows that if we set specific accountability appointments, goal accomplishment goes up to 95%. Success Bully merges this powerful combination of strategic goal setting and accountability for real action, and I am VERY interested in real action. The Suc...
2020-10-27
38 min
Future of the Metaverse
Metaversonomics (the economics of the Metaverse) with Bronwyn Williams from Flux Trends
In this episode, Cathy talks with fellow futurist, Bronwyn Williams, about the metaverse, the economics of the metaverse, or metaversonimics, and even the future of gold and bitcoin. Bronwyn is a Partner, Foresight Lead, and Trend Analyst at Flux Trends. They also talk about Bronwyn's upcoming book, The Future Starts Now, to which Cathy contributed a chapter on virtual worlds and the metaverse to. You can pre-order the book today.
2020-10-18
00 min
The One-Eyed Man with Mike Stopforth
#026 The trouble with having an open mind — Bronwyn Williams
Bronwyn Williams — Flux Trends | Partner Fixing the world and breaking echo chambers In this episode, my friend and speaking colleague Bronwyn Williams and I finally get around to solving all the world's problems, and in only 45 minutes or so. Bronwyn is a futurist, economist and trends analyst with over a decade’s experience in strategic management and foresight. She holds tertiary qualifications in Marketing Management (UJ), Economics (University of London), Foresight (University of Manchester), and Future Studies (University of Stellenbosch). She is currently completing a Master's in Applied Economics from the University of Bath.
2020-10-08
53 min
We Are Women Podcast
Episode 95 - How to Remove Bias and Increase Profits
Episode 95 Bron Williams While working with asylum seekers on Nauru, Bronwyn Williams came face-to-face with her own biases of racism and white superiority. Now, as The Bias Expert, Bronwyn works with boards, teams, and individuals to build awareness around bias in company culture, leadership and management, and staff welfare. Together, they identify the bias that is limiting productivity and develop bespoke strategies to increase profitability. In this episode, Bronwyn explains that bias is part of the way all human beings operate and why being aware is 50% of the game. She tells us that bias has healthy consequences; like k...
2020-09-23
49 min
Self Achievement Network
Bron Williams | Person Behind the Passion Interview
Thank you Ruchi Singh for your generous nomination for #PersonBehindThePassion! To me, you are inspiring and courageous and I appreciate this great honor. I consider myself to be the kind of person who steps bravely into all situations. The passion I am currently pursuing in my life is to make bias conscious because bias is at the root of all iniquity. The impact I intend to make in the world is to build awareness of bias and its impacts because I want people to live with justice and equity. The people that have inspired me...
2020-09-15
44 min
2oceansvibe.com
Colin Don Schouw: Bronwyn Williams Interview
Our host, Colin Don Schouw invites Bronwyn Williams to chat about the trends reshaping the fashion business.
2020-09-15
22 min
Watts Involved
Episode 129 | Bronwyn Williams | Futurist, trend analyst, economist and all round good guy
On this episode I chat with Bronwyn about trends both locally and internationally, Covid and the way she sees the future. Bronwyn has over a decade’s experience in strategic management, trend research and foresight; consulting to clients in the public and private sector across the African continent. Her educational credentials include tertiary qualifications in Marketing Management (University of Johannesburg), Economics (University of London), Foresight (University of Manchester), and Future Studies (University of Stellenbosch). She is currently completing a Masters in Applied Economics from the University of Bath. Today, as a partner at Flux Trends, Br...
2020-09-14
38 min
Bx Podcast
EP 17 Bronwyn Williams - bronwilliams.com
Today on the Bx Podcast we have Bron Williams from bronwilliams.com. As you’ll hear Bron was working with asylum seekers on the Pacific island of Nauru when she first realised that she was carrying an unconscious bias towards the folks that she was there to help.It was confronting for sure and at the time there was no way out of it. She was there stuck on the island and had to deal with it all.Fast forward and Bronwyn is more determined than ever to make bias conscious in the corporate environment.Rather than ai...
2020-08-19
48 min
Infinite Loops
Bronwyn Williams: Self Sovereignty, Futurism, and The State
In this episode of Infinite Loops we spoke with Bronwyn Williams. We discuss: What being a ‘futurist’ means Accelerating trends as a result of COVID-19 Geopolitics and the African continent Technology and economic development The future of governance Follow Bronwyn on Twitter (https://twitter.com/bronwynwilliams) and check out her website here (https://whatthefuturenow.com/)
2020-07-09
1h 05
Future-Fit Fridays :)
The Future of Money with Bronwyn Williams
Whether its crypto currency or investing in precious metals, the future of money both excites and induces much nail biting. What are some of the key ideas around fiscal policy, trading and money itself that we need to be aware of as we step into the future? Trend Translator and Future Finance Specialist, Bronwyn Williams chats to us about what to look out for as the face of money changes.
2020-06-05
26 min