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FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Does Mindfulness Work for Burnout, PTSD, and Trauma? What Research in War Zones Shows | A #straightfromcait Episode
Burnout does not get fixed by waiting for the workplace to change and it does not get solved by ignoring the biology of chronic stress either. Cait Donovan challenges the growing resistance to mindfulness in workplace and corporate wellness by asking a more honest question: what if the tools people dismiss as basic are misunderstood rather than ineffective? Drawing on research from war zones, medical training programs, and high-stress professional environments, the conversation reframes mindfulness as a form of burnout prevention grounded in trauma and PTSD science. When practices reduce symptoms in active conflict z...
2026-02-15
11 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Burnout Recovery, Alignment, and a Thoughtful Transition
Part of burnout recovery is learning when to respond to what your body and life are telling you, even when that response brings some discomfort.In this episode, Cait and Sarah talk openly about a shift in how they work together and what’s ahead for FRIED. As their roles and priorities have evolved, Sarah is stepping back and Cait is focusing her work more fully on leadership, organizational, and systems-level burnout.Cait shares how she came to see that her work is strongest when she is creating change at...
2026-02-01
46 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Burnout Isn’t About Resilience. It’s About Match.
Burnout recovery does not start with fixing yourself. It starts with understanding job fit, burnout at work, and whether there is a true values match between who you are and what your work and life demand.Cait Donovan returns with a #straightfromcait episode that marks a turning point in how she thinks about burnout and in the writing of her next book. After years of explaining burnout as a complex web shaped by childhood, culture, health, personality, and work, she hits a wall. Information alone does not change behavior. What people need is a...
2026-01-25
05 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Hailey Paige Magee: Burned Out and Lonely: How Do You Rebuild Your Community?
AD: What if you could step into a room filled with the people who hold the keys to the big stages, the book deals, and the most powerful platforms for your voice? The Gateway Gathering Pitch Fest is a visibility accelerator for thought-leaders. Whether you’re ready to pitch or just want to discover what’s possible join us January 13 – 15. Visit https://bit.ly/friedgatewayAD: The right support changes everything. Our Director of Coaching, Sarah Vosen, combines expertise and compassion to walk beside you: https://caitdonovan.com/coachingAre you burned out an...
2025-12-14
55 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Cyndie Spiegel: Use This Technique to Find Hope When You're Burnt Out
Burnout doesn’t end with a mindset shift—it begins when you finally allow grief, emptiness, and small sparks of joy to coexist without needing to fix any of them.Author and speaker Cyndie Spiegel joins Cait to talk about what it means to live inside the gray area, the space where both pain and beauty can exist at once. She shares how walking away from a high-profile fashion career led her to teaching, writing, and discovering the idea of microjoys: brief, accessible moments of light that don’t erase hardship but remind us life s...
2025-11-23
41 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Why Behavior Change Is So Hard (and What Your Brain Has to Do With It)
Most people think they’ve failed at change when they’ve actually just hit the part where being human takes over.Cait Donovan is taking a closer look at why behavior change is so hard to maintain and why relapse isn’t a sign of weakness but proof that your brain is doing exactly what it’s designed to do. She explains how old habits never fully disappear, they just sit quietly, waiting for a moment of stress or fatigue to reappear. Change takes effort, repetition, and compassion for the part of you that’s still le...
2025-11-16
09 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: What PT Taught Me About Burnout Recovery
Burnout convinces you that rest should be enough, and when it isn’t, you assume you’re broken.In this #straightfromcait episode, Cait shares how a shoulder injury revealed a missing step in her own recovery process. Two months of full rest left her pain-free but not ready. When her physical therapist handed her one-pound weights and she could barely lift them, she realized the injury had healed, but her strength hadn’t returned.That moment reframed everything. Most of us focus on the pause — the sleeping, the pulling back, th...
2025-10-26
09 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Will Robins: How PGA Science Helps You Recover from Burnout
Burnout hides best inside people who love their work so much they don’t notice it draining the life out of them.PGA coach and RGX founder Will Robins joins Cait to unpack how devotion to service can turn into slow-motion burnout, especially when you’re praised for being endlessly available. He shares how surviving the 2004 tsunami gave him purpose, but years later COVID thrust him into a different kind of survival mode, fielding nonstop crisis calls from golf pros worldwide. Passion became obligation, generosity became emotional labor, and saying yes became his default unti...
2025-10-19
53 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Barry Goldstein: Lower Anxiety and Reconnect With Yourself Through Music
Grammy Award–winning producer Barry Goldstein joins Cait Donovan to explore burnout and the healing power of music. Barry shares how chasing success in New York’s music scene drained the joy from his craft - until he began composing at the rhythm of a relaxed heart. That experiment sparked “acoustoceuticals,” music designed to calm the nervous system, restore heart-brain coherence, and reignite passion.Together, Cait and Barry unpack why some music heals while other music agitates, how to use sound as “musical nutrition” throughout your day, and why your heartbeat may be the most powerfu...
2025-09-28
1h 04
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Mita Mallick: Could Your Boss Be the Real Reason You’re Burnt Out?
Toxic bosses don’t only wear people down, they spark the very burnout cycles that drain whole teams. Cait Donovan talks with author and change-maker Mita Mallick about the damage bad leadership leaves behind and the toll it takes on both people and organizations. Mita shares personal stories, including her experience with a boss she nicknamed “Medusa,” whose intimidation and cruelty pushed her into anxiety and disengagement. That season of her career led to what she calls a “get out plan,” a way to take the energy of frustration and turn it into action through networking, reflection, and mapping a path for...
2025-09-14
42 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Jerry Colonna: The Question That Changed How I See Burnout Forever
Burnout shows up in many ways, but at its core it often signals a life out of alignment. Cait Donovan sits down with executive coach and author Jerry Colonna to explore what happens when outward success hides an inner collapse. Jerry opens up about the years he spent chasing achievement as a venture capitalist and how every new milestone left him feeling worse instead of fulfilled. What does it mean when the world applauds your accomplishments but your soul feels heavier with each step forward? And how do we begin to untangle the beliefs that keep us performing long...
2025-09-07
52 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Dr. Jen Wagner: Canyon Ranch Burnout Retreats Fall 2025
Burnout reaches far beyond the office, touching every layer of health, purpose, and identity, and Dr. Jen Wagner joins Cait Donovan to uncover what true recovery really looks like. As Chief Health and Performance Officer at Canyon Ranch, Dr. Wagner brings both professional expertise and lived experience, sharing how her own burnout as a young physician and mother reshaped her path and deepened her commitment to helping others heal. Together, she and Cait explore why burnout isn’t just mental exhaustion but a full-body, whole-life disruption that can strip away joy, relationships, and meaning.Th...
2025-08-24
38 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: How Long Does Burnout Recovery Take
Burnout recovery takes more than waiting for time to pass. It asks you to examine who you’ve been, who you want to be, and what kind of life will truly sustain you. In this #straightfromcait episode, Cait Donovan explores one of the questions she hears most often: how long does it take to heal from burnout? Drawing on her own experience, client stories, and survey results from her community, Cait shares why most people need 12 to 18 months to recover, with some taking longer when deeper shifts are involved. The process can be stretched by...
2025-08-17
09 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Burnout Recovery Exercise: Worst Case Scenario
Burnout can make every decision feel impossible. When you’re stuck in fear and second-guessing everything, how are you supposed to move forward in a way that actually feels right?In this episode, Cait Donovan shares a tool she’s used for years to help people get unstuck: the “Worst Case Scenario” exercise. Instead of pushing fear aside, Cait walks you through what it looks like to write it down, face it head-on, and figure out what you’d do if the worst really did happen. What if the job burns you out all over again...
2025-08-10
12 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: How to Change The Habit That Is Keeping You Stuck
Cait Donovan is back with a #straightfromcait episode that gets real about something most of us wrestle with quietly, how we soothe ourselves when things get hard, and what that looks like after burnout.This time, Cait’s digging into her long-standing sugar habit. Not the occasional treat, but the reflex to reach for something sweet when emotions start to build. She thought she’d done the work. And in many ways, she had. But what happens when one old pattern refuses to budge? What if the thing you’re avoiding isn’t the habit it...
2025-07-27
08 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Nicole Kalil: Imposter Syndrome and Burnout
Imposter syndrome has a way of creeping in when we’ve spent so long meeting everyone else’s expectations that we forget what we actually want for ourselves.In this episode, Cait Donovan reconnects with Nicole Kalil for a conversation about burnout, confidence, and the stories we tell ourselves when we’re doing all the right things but still don’t feel like we belong. Nicole shares what happened when she finally cleared space in her life and was left with a surprising sense of emptiness, a feeling that’s all too common but rarely tal...
2025-07-13
48 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Top Burnout Symptoms According To You (Dear Gentle Listeners)
Burnout quietly hijacks your focus, your memory, your sleep, and eventually, your sense of self.In this #straightfromcait episode, Cait Donovan unpacks the results of a burnout symptoms survey answered by over 150 listeners. What shows up again and again? Brain fog. Forgetfulness. Sleep issues. That heavy, unshakable sense of dread. She walks through the patterns in these responses with honesty and insight, weaving in what we know about how burnout affects the brain and what it feels like to lose your ability to think clearly or remember what used to bring you joy.
2025-07-06
21 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Adrien Cotton: Stages of Perimenopause + Burnout Overlap
Perimenopause and burnout often hit at the same time, and when they do, it can feel like something is off but you’re not quite sure what. Cait Donovan talks with wellness expert Adrien Cotton about the confusion so many women face in midlife. Adrien shares how years of high-pressure work and unresolved health issues led her into what she calls a “perimenopause prison,” and how she eventually found her way out by learning to understand her body on a deeper level.How do you tell the difference between burnout and hormonal shifts? Why do sym...
2025-06-29
53 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Jen Fisher: Burned Out at the Top—and Changed Corporate America
Burnout isn’t a personal failure. Sometimes it’s a sign that the system around you never made space for you to ask what’s actually sustainable.Kicking off Season 10 of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast, Cait Donovan is joined by Jen Fisher, the founder of The Wellbeing Team and the former Chief Well-being Officer at Deloitte, for a conversation that goes straight to the heart of what burnout really is, and why so many people are still afraid to talk about it honestly. Jen shares why, in her own experience, burnout was harder than cancer...
2025-06-15
49 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Celebrating 300 Episodes with a Fresh New Tool for Our Listeners!
Burnout recovery takes more than bubble baths and boundary scripts. It asks you to let yourself receive.To celebrate 300 episodes of FRIED, Cait Donovan and Sarah Vosen are getting real about what it took to get here… emotionally, financially, and logistically. What do you do when your mission is to serve others, but you’re maxed out behind the scenes? How do you keep showing up with integrity when your inbox is full of amazing guest pitches you don’t have the capacity to accept?Cait opens up about the gu...
2025-05-25
35 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: What Is Stress Resilience? And How Do You Get More Of It?
Stress resilience isn’t a mindset trick. It’s built on your biology, your history, and whether or not you actually use the support available to you.This week on #straightfromcait, Cait Donovan challenges the idea that self-awareness is where resilience begins. What if your stress response was shaped long before you ever had a chance to influence it? Cait walks through how genetics and early experiences, like trauma or family dynamics, lay the groundwork for how your body handles stress. Some people’s systems are just wired differently, and that wiring matters....
2025-05-18
14 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Sarah Swanberg: To Create a Sustainable Business (and Life) This is What You Need
Burnout doesn’t always look like falling apart. Sometimes it looks like holding everything together, until your body makes it clear you can’t keep going this way.Cait Donovan is joined by her longtime friend Sarah Swanberg, a doctor of acupuncture and Chinese medicine and co-founder of Indigo Wellness Group. They talk about what burnout really feels like for women moving through major life phases such as fertility, postpartum, perimenopause, and why so many of us miss the signs until we’re deep in it.Sarah shares how she le...
2025-05-11
48 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Can't Quit Your Job? Here's How You Recover from Burnout.
Burnout recovery doesn’t always come with the luxury of stepping away from your job, and Cait Donovan knows that firsthand. In this episode, she speaks directly to those who feel stuck in burnout but still have to show up for work every day.Cait offers a starting point: pick one small shift and commit to it for a few weeks. Just one. She lays out two clear paths, depending on how you're feeling right now.If you’re angry, the Resentment Journal mini course is your first step. Rese...
2025-04-27
10 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Struggling After Returning to Work? How to Tell If It’s Burnout or a Bad Job
You did the healing, took the break, felt better. So why does going back to work feel like a total relapse?Cait Donovan tackles a common (and confusing) moment in recovery: feeling like you’re right back where you started after returning to your job. She breaks down how to tell if the workplace is toxic, a bad fit, or simply triggering habits you haven’t had a chance to practice in that environment yet.With honesty, Cait shares a three-step process to help you figure out what’s really...
2025-04-13
13 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#FRIEDguides: Stop Self-Sabotaging Your Burnout Recovery
Self-sabotage isn’t a personal flaw. It’s your nervous system doing its best to keep you safe.In this whole new episode of #FRIEDguides, Cait Donovan and Sarah Vosen take a closer look at why so many people feel like they’re getting in their own way during burnout recovery. What if those moments where you fall back into old habits aren’t failures, but signals that your body is overwhelmed and reaching for something familiar? What if the behavior you’re judging is actually trying to protect you?Cait and...
2025-04-06
24 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Kim Bolourtchi: How to Be Strategically Unruly & Create the Life You Want
Most of the rules you’re following were never made with you in mind and could be the reason you’re burned out.Cait Donovan sits down with keynote speaker and executive consultant Kim Bolourtchi to talk about what it really means to be Strategically Unruly, and why breaking the right rules might be the key to burnout recovery. Kim shares her story of living a double life as a buttoned-up lawyer and national Latin dance champion, and how a surprising moment in front of the Missouri Supreme Court shattered the divide between who she...
2025-03-30
41 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#FRIEDguides: What To Do When The World Is In Chaos
Burnout recovery isn’t just about resting more. It’s about finding the energy to live fully, set boundaries that protect your peace, and show up in ways that actually matter.When the world feels chaotic, how do you stay committed to your healing? In this #FRIEDguides episode, Cait Donovan and Sarah Vosen dig into the challenges of burnout recovery when external stressors feel overwhelming. They talk about why carving out a space for yourself—one that isn’t flooded with nonstop news and social media noise—isn’t avoidance. It’s survival. Cait shares her own...
2025-03-23
21 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Genein Letford: A New Take on Improving Focus, Brain Fog, and Overall Brain Health
Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried]Your brain craves creativity, and the arts might be the secret weapon against burnout. Genein Letford joins Cait Donovan to break down how music, movement, and self-expression fuel emotional resilience, sharpen thinking, and restore energy. Why does chronic stress shrink key areas of the brain? How can creative outlets like music and movement reverse the damage? And what’s the deal with brain capital, and why should...
2025-03-16
51 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#FRIEDguides: What to Do If You Are a Giver Who Sucks At Taking
Burnout happens when you give endlessly without allowing yourself to receive.Cait Donovan and Sarah Vosen are back for #FRIEDguides to break down why high achievers and caregivers struggle to accept support, energy, and appreciation. If you dismiss compliments, downplay your needs, or feel guilty for resting, you’re not alone. The problem is that without refueling, burnout becomes inevitable.The co-hosts introduce the idea of “receivership” and explain how learning to accept, rather than just give, creates balance. Through stories, metaphors, and practical exercises, they offer ways to expand...
2025-03-09
24 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Nahal Yousefian: Former Head of HR for Netflix Shares How We Should Shape the Future of Work
Burnout thrives in the spaces where people aren’t saying what they really mean.In this episode, Cait Donovan is joined by Nahal Yousefian, a former head of HR at Netflix, to talk about why work culture fuels burnout and what needs to change. Nahal shares how burnout hit her hard—so hard she physically couldn’t move—and why that moment forced her to rethink everything.Nahal pulls back the curtain on corporate dysfunction, from empty jargon to leadership that talks in circles. Why are companies obsessed with being “s...
2025-02-16
59 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Chronic Stress: Connecting the Dots between Layoffs and Burnout with Cait Donovan (Originally Posted on Nerd Journey 10/29/24)
Burnout sneaks up slowly, leaving you drained and wondering what went wrong. Cait Donovan joins Nick Korte on Nerd Journey to talk about how chronic stress builds over time, why layoffs can be a breaking point or a relief, and what it really takes to recover. She breaks down burnout risk factors, the role of personal history and workplace culture, and why some people hit a wall while others find a way forward. How do you know when it’s time to make a change? What steps can you take to regain control? Cait sha...
2025-02-09
51 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Dr. Jessi Gold: Healthcare - Burnout, Emotions, and Culture Shifts
Burnout is more than feeling tired. It’s a challenge that affects every aspect of life, especially for healthcare professionals. In this episode, Dr. Jessi Gold shares her deeply personal experience navigating burnout as a psychiatrist during the pandemic, and offers a rare glimpse into the struggles even experts face. What can we do when the very systems designed to support us become the cause of our suffering? Dr. Gold and Cait Donovan explore the systemic issues in healthcare that perpetuate burnout, from overwork to the culture of self-neglect ingrained in medical training. They als...
2025-02-02
57 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#friedfam: Top Advice from FRIED Listeners and Burnout Recoverers
“Don’t shame your limitations.” Cait Donovan and Sarah Vosen share this piece of wisdom in this #FRIEDfam episode, weaving together lessons from their community and their own experiences to explore self-compassion and meaningful burnout recovery.How often do we forget to listen to ourselves, honor our limitations, or simplify our approach to recovery? Cait and Sarah remind us that true healing comes with self-compassion, small steps, and leaning into support when we need it most.Join Cait and Sarah to discover practical tips, heartfelt stories, and the collective wisdom...
2025-01-26
36 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Jennifer Moss: Why Are We Here? How To Systematically Create Better Work Cultures
“This isn’t some soft skill, or a ‘nice-to-have.’ It’s a must-have,” says Jennifer Moss, workplace strategist, co-founder of The Workplace Institute, and author of award-winning books on leadership. Her latest book, “Why Are We Here?,” discusses how we can use hope as an operational strategy at work, how employees can learn to bring their whole, best selves to work by meting out goals in small steps and celebrating each small win en route to the larger goal. Leaders, in turn, can learn to, rather than mitigate those efforts, be conduits to employees’ mental health, in part by being encouraging...
2025-01-19
47 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: 2025 Forecast for Leaders - What to Know About Burnout Moving Forward
“We’re at a time when things are going to be shifting and changing,” says host Cait Donovan who, on this solo episode of FRIED, shares a workplace forecast for 2025 and explains what business leaders can do to best navigate this new landscape, rocky as it’s predicted to be. Today, Cait shares findings from a number of experts, including the future of DEI initiatives, how AI will affect employee benefits’ packages, which position on the corporate ladder will likely burn out en masse and what leaders can do now to best mitigate the fallout. She also discusses the increasing...
2025-01-12
13 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Regan Parker: ShiftKey offers Healthcare Workers Freedom, Choice, and Control
“People leave the field not because they don’t love the work, but the confines of the work structure make it impossible for them to do it,” says Regan Parker, Chief Legal and Public Affairs officer for Shift Key, a technology marketplace that connects licensed independent healthcare professionals with facilities who need their services. As healthcare workers continue to feel overworked and undervalued, they continue to burn out, leaving healthcare facilities with staffing shortages. By allowing professionals to set their own rates and to select work on a shift-by-shift basis, Shift Key’s model offers the flexibility and autonomy to maint...
2025-01-05
31 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: 3 Ways To Add Ease To Your Day Without Changing Your Circumstances
“I want you to forcibly slow yourself down,” says Cait on this #straightfromcait episode of FRIED where she offers three tips—and a special bonus—to help you create more ease throughout your day, without taking away from any of your responsibilities or plans. These are short, simple yet effective ways to check in with yourself physically, mentally and emotionally to eliminate unnecessary tension and make life’s tasks more bearable. Cait will share which parts of the body to focus on to lower your overall stress response and signal to your vagus nerve that you’re...
2024-12-29
07 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Erica Rooney: Sticky Floors and Glass Ceilings - It's Time To Get UNSTUCK
“Spoiler alert: You’re not stuck. There’s always something you can do,” explains today’s guest Erica Rooney, keynote speaker, highly-sought after executive coach and author of the best-selling book, “Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors,” the latter of which, she explains, are the limiting beliefs and toxic behaviors that keep so many of us from moving forward and reaching our goals and potential. On today’s episode of FRIED, Erica joins host Cait Donovan to discuss the fear of asking for help, the fallout within a generation of women who were raised to believe they can have it all, and why, fo...
2024-12-15
43 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: How Your Biology Could Be Sabotaging Your Mindset Shift—and What to Do About It
“Your biology could be working against you,” says host Cait Donovan, when it comes to your ability to foster a hopeful and positive mindset. As it turns out, those with adverse childhood experiences (ACE) can lack the brain plasticity necessary to adopt a new growth mindset. Luckily, you have the power to change this and in this episode of FRIED, Cait shows you how. She shares the three steps necessary to bolster and support yourself in order to enable the process. She reiterates once again why safety is the building block to resilience, change and b...
2024-12-08
15 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Burnout or “Just Stress”? Here’s How to Tell the Difference Once and For All
“Differentiating burnout from stress is one of the most popular questions around burnout,” says host Cait Donovan. On today’s #straightfromcait episode, she will reveal what she calls ‘the line in the sand’ that separates “mere” stress from the kind of burnout that requires recovery. She’ll explain what it means when your downtime—even if it is weeks or months long—leaves you feeling just as overwhelmed and depleted as when you were working. She will also walk us through the first few steps that make up the FRIED framework which was designed to help us recover fr...
2024-12-01
06 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#FRIEDguides: Why High Achievers Burn Out: The Dark Side of Success-Driven Mindsets
“It’s praised in our culture to have a bold, clear, big vision for the kind of impact you want to make in the world and in your life, but what’s not talked about is, ‘Is it realistic?” says Sarah Vosen as she joins Cait Donovan to co-host this latest episode of FRIEDguides. Today, the two discuss why high achievers tend to be the first to burn out. It has to do with unrealistic expectations–both for their achievements and their capacity to achieve. As a result, high achievers continue to expend more energy than they receive in return, and–...
2024-11-24
33 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Jacquelyn Fletcher Johnson: The Stories We Tell That Heal or Deepen Our Burnout
“I often say that story is the most powerful tool on earth and I really believe that,” says today’s FRIED guest Jacquelyn Fletcher Johnson, who, as the founder and CEO of the Heartwood Leadership Institute, has helped countless Fortune 500 executives step into their leadership. Today she joins host Cait Donovan to discuss the stories we tell ourselves—about who we are, what life and work are meant to be like and how these stories manifest in our lives and even in our bodies until we finally dig deep down and investigate what’s underneath them. The two women discuss th...
2024-11-17
51 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Cait Donovan: The Rule of Thirds - Why Burnout Recovery Isn’t About Feeling Great All the Time
“I want you to give yourself permission to live in this rule of thirds,” says host Cait Donovan, borrowing a concept that Olympic runner Alexi Pappas recently shared online. Alexi's coach told her that anything you're doing right will feel a combination of good, bad and just neutral. Cait explains how this applies to burnout recovery, and how to incorporate it into your own life.She also discusses fourth grade teacher Ryan Brazil's viral clip which explains that we are not obligated to blindly follow our first and, perhaps, most impulsive thoughts. Instead, we have...
2024-11-10
11 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Bryan Huhn, CFP: Money Stress, Burnout, and Living According to Joy
“What’s more important: being happy for having some stupid business card?” Asks Bryan Huhn, who joins FRIED today to discuss the relationship between financial stress and burnout, particularly when we allow the money we’re making—and the money we think we can’t live without—to convince us we need to remain in jobs that are making us miserable even to the point of illness. Bryan spent years valuing what people thought of him more than his own genuine passions and in an effort to people-please, pursued a career in finance rather than his dream of becoming a baseball coa...
2024-10-06
47 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Getting Out Of The Toxic Workplace Burnout Cycle
“The problem isn’t you; the problem is the toxic workplace,” explains host Caitlin Donovan on this latest #straightfromcait episode of FRIED, in which she discusses the dangers of returning to a toxic workplace only to repeat the burnout cycle again, as if you never made any recovery progress. Too often we’re led to believe that if we improve ourselves enough, we can develop an immunity against a bad environment, which, as Cait says, simply isn’t true. On today’s episode, she explains why you should reconsider returning to your toxic workplace, and, if you d...
2024-09-29
12 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Cathy Richards: Aging Gracefully, Burnout and Dementia
“What kind of 85-year-old do you want to be?” asks Cathy Richards, exercise physiologist, wellness coach and best-selling author of “Boom! Six Steps to Living a Longer, Healthier Life” who joins the podcast to help us learn what we can do to protect our brains against neurodegenerative diseases such as dementia and Alzheimer’s Disease. The habits we build now—starting with as little as just five minutes a day—will help, in large part, to determine the quality of our later years.The best thing you can do? Get moving. This doesn’t have to mean exe...
2024-09-15
49 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Top 6 Environmental Factors that Burn You Out
“Making yourself feel good in your own space is really important,” urges host Cait Donovan on today’s episode of FRIED, the second in a six-part series dedicated to the various factors that make us more vulnerable to burnout. Following the episode which covered factors in the workplace, today’s episode discusses the impact of our environment—both interior and exterior—on our parasympathetic nervous system and our ability to handle stress. Today, Cait will cover the importance of light exposure—and lack thereof—as well green spaces, clutter piles, and when. You’ll learn why even the way you store your cut...
2024-09-01
23 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Claudia Taboada: Caregiving for Neurodiverse Children While Recovering From Burnout
“I completely lost myself, my physical, mental and emotional well-being, but I lost my identity. I was no longer Claudia, I was the caregiver,” explains today’s guest Claudia Taboada, a holistic wellness and burnout prevention coach, bestselling author and international speaker who joins FRIED today to discuss the experience of burnout by those who care for neurodiverse children. After her oldest son was diagnosed with autism in 2003, Claudia left her job to care for him full time. Soon, not only was she mentally and physically exhausted from trying to be, as she called it, the “autism supermom” but she lost s...
2024-08-25
41 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#FRIEDguides: Irrational Fears Are a Sign of Depletion: The Chinese Medicine that Explains Fear During Burnout
“Irrational fear is just a sign of depletion,” said Sarah Vosen in a recent conversation with co-host Cait Donovan. This profound insight became the foundation for today’s episode. According to Chinese medicine, the paralyzing anxiety that often accompanies burnout—leaving you disconnected from yourself and others, doubting your intuition, and retreating from the world—stems from a depletion of energy in the kidney system. Citing the book “Rooted in Spirit: The Heart of Chinese Medicine,” Cait explains that when the heart and kidney systems fail to connect and communicate, it leads to insecurity, hesitation, and a loss of perspective on...
2024-08-18
23 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum: Is it Chronic Fatigue or is it Burnout?
“If you’re ready to recover, understand what’s going on with you, and get a life you love, let’s do this,” says Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum, a leading expert on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) and fibromyalgia. The author of 12 books, including the best-selling “From Fatigued to Fantastic,” Dr. Teitelbaum joins the FRIED podcast to discuss the similarities between these conditions and burnout, including four key symptoms, and how they are distinct. He likens the hypothalamus—a crucial brain area controlling hormones, adrenaline, and thyroid function—to a circuit breaker that trips to prevent the body from “burning down.” He suggests that livin...
2024-08-11
48 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Courtney Clark: The Power of Quitting for Less Burnout and More Success
“I’m giving you permission to give up,” says Courtney Clark, author of the recent book “Revisionary Thinking,” who joins the FRIED podcast to talk about the power of quitting. After being diagnosed with cancer four times starting at a very early age, she became acutely aware of the demand our culture makes on staying positive at all costs, creating a vacuum around anything even resembling a negative, or even more realistic thought. In workplace and career, this means we tend to stay on a career path past the time we realize it’s not working, convinced there is only one way...
2024-07-28
41 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Top 6 Workplace Factors that Burn You Out
Host Cait Donovan is back with another #straightfromcait episode, this time discussing the six factors which leave you most vulnerable to workplace burnout. Drawing from leading research, she will explain how you can evaluate these factors in order to make the best decisions for yourself going forward. These factors will be all too familiar to longtime FRIED listeners—or anyone going through burnout recovery. Cait discusses the many ways that values can misalign in the workplace as well as how to respond when you feel your contributions are being under appreciated. She’ll reveal just...
2024-07-21
11 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#FRIEDguides: How to Job Search, Apply for Jobs, and Interview While You're Burnt Out
“There is a perfect fit out there for you,” encourages host Cait Donovan in this episode of FRIED, where she and Sarah Vosen discuss the process of job searching while recovering from burnout. They guide you through a four-step framework to navigate this challenging process.The goal is to dig beneath the trauma and anxiety of burnout to where your instincts and intuition can guide you toward what you truly want. This is your chance to reacquaint yourself with your true values, not those imposed by family, friends, or society. You’ll learn how to acc...
2024-07-07
17 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Kristin Lis: The Stories I told Myself As A Lawyer That Kept Me Burnt Out (and How I Changed Them)
“It was something I was doing just for me, no one else, a very unfamiliar feeling,” says today’s guest Kristin Lis, reflecting on her decision to begin burnout recovery with host Caitlin Donovan as her burnout coach, nearly a year before today’s interview. At that time, Kristin's mental fog was so severe that she couldn't read or form coherent sentences, a critical issue for her role as a lawyer focused on amicable divorce and family matters. Like many suffering from burnout, her boundaries were almost non-existent. She took calls and checked emails at all hours, even conducting Zoom hea...
2024-06-30
55 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: The F.R.I.E.D. Framework for Burnout Recovery for Individuals AND Companies
Many of us know what it means to be burned out, but do you know what it means to be F.R.I.E.D.? On today’s episode Cait breaks down the five elements that make up the acronym F.R.I.E.D., five pillars—Facility safety, Reprioritize, Internal world, Explore what’s possible and Dedicate yourself—which comprise the main framework of burnout recovery. Within that framework, however, your recovery process is as individual as you are. In this episode, Cait expands on each aspect of the framework, while encouraging you to determine how to incorporate them int...
2024-06-23
24 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Aria Johnson: Uncovering the True You During Burnout Recovery
“The self-abuse—that we don’t even realize we’re doing—is so glorified in this society.” Aria Johnson, a TV personality and celebrity voice coach, is best known for appearing as the music expert in the hit Reelz series “Beverly Hills Pawn.” Though this was ostensibly a reality show, Aria was ultimately playing a character—not unlike countless people who cast themselves as characters in their own realities, and like Aria they end up burned out emotionally and even physically. There is a particular pressure on women, she says, to portray a manufactured image based on impossible standards and to overachieve...
2024-06-16
52 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#FRIEDguides: How to Listen to Your Body for Burnout Recovery
FRIED Fam!—Another fried guide episode arrives by popular demand! This time hosts Cait and Sarah are talking about the holistic guide to burnout recovery, and that includes learning to listen to your body’s signals to figure out what larger issue they’re trying to draw your attention to. Most of us are so accustomed to ignoring our bodies’ signals and burnout signs—pain, rashes, reflux—or even just having to pee!— that we forget that we have the option to address them. But when we do, we build trust with ourselves and our bodies, and over time learn to regul...
2024-06-09
48 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#friedguides: Why Am I So Clumsy and Injury Prone During Burnout?
“When I’m stressed, I trip more, I bang into things more, I stub my toe more—so there’s definitely something going on here,” Cait shares, highlighting the curious link between burnout and clumsiness. In this latest "Fried Guide" episode, Sarah Vosen joins Cait to delve deeper into why burnout can make us more accident-prone and even lead to injuries. They discuss how stress can cause physical reactions like tensed neck muscles and narrowed peripheral vision, making us clumsier.According to Chinese medicine, unprocessed emotions can accumulate in the liver, decaying and poisoning our system...
2024-05-26
45 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Realities of Burnout Recovery and Coaching (Behind the Scenes)
“I don’t want to convince you that whenever we finish working, you should be dancing, pirouetting on clouds in ballet slippers,” host Caitlin Donovan explains on this solo episode of FRIED, where she talks about managing expectations from burnout recovery work, particularly the program FRIED offers lead by her partner Sarah Vosen. In a space that, largely for marketing purposes, will promise that you’ll come out the other side of recovery feeling nothing but joy forever after, Cait offers some refreshing transparency about what she offers, why she specifically only offers short-term help, and the seemingly simple outcomes...
2024-05-12
14 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#friedguides Why Your Burnout Recovery is Stuck (and How to Unstick It)
“You’re going to have to surrender and have patience and be ready and willing to be annoyed.” On today’s episode of FRIED, Sarah Vosen and Cait review some of the common reasons why your burnout recovery may not be working, or not working as fast as you’d like. First off—you may be overdoing it, which is the exact kind of perfectionistic approach that burned you out in the first place. You have to be open to doing things differently and going at a slower pace than you may be used to. If you’re expecting to make progre...
2024-04-28
43 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Burnout Protection Factors (BPF's)
“Why is it that two people can be in the same exact environment, at the same job, and one person burns out and another person doesn’t?” And not only does that other person not burn out, they thrive?” Well, as it turns out, just like everyone needs a certain amount of sun protection factor (SPF) to protect them from the harmful effects of the sun, so does everyone have their own BPF—burnout protection factor. On today’s solo episode of FRIED, Cait explains how we can build up our own BPFs within the six burnout factors— Work, Self, Health...
2024-04-14
20 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Julie Menanno: Secure Love: Attachment Needs, Burnout, and Your Relationships with... Everything
“Insecure attachment—period—whatever category you’re in, is 100 percent nurture. One hundred percent. It’s a relationally driven disorder.” Dr. Julie Menanno, author of “The Secure Relationship,” joins the FRIED podcast to talk about relationships and attachment theory. For many of us, our parents or caretakers, failed to meet our needs. To control the resulting anxiety, we form insecure attachment, the variety of which Dr. Julie further explains here. These childhood attachment styles then take a toll on our current relationships as we continue to struggle to get our needs met—or even to understand our needs in the first place—eng...
2024-03-24
51 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Navigating Leadership Burnout: A Guide For Business Owners and Leaders
Hey, FRIED fam! On today’s episode of The Burnout Podcast, Cait is answering written questions from bosses and leaders, asking how to deal with burnout while balancing all of the other concerns of their company and employees. How can you maintain a healthy workplace culture while recovering from burnout? How do you deal with employees who punch up out of frustration? What if restructuring the business to promote a healthier workplace results in layoffs? First, Cait makes the distinction between what is and is not a leader’s responsibility. It is their responsibility to im...
2024-03-17
17 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Andrea Owen: Building Shame Resilience for Burnout Recovery
“Shame is driving the bus of our lives,” says life coach, keynote speaker, author and “hell-raiser” Andrea Owen, who joins the FRIED podcast. In this episode, Andrea shares a four-step process toward building shame resilience, which she learned while studying under author and professor Brene Brown. Many of the behaviors that we engage in–perfectionism, people pleasing, control– are what Brene Brown calls “the armor”. These tactics are means of avoiding shame. One initial helpful step to building resilience is to become aware of how our shame manifests. Another major step toward building shame resilience is reac...
2024-03-10
52 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Powerful Questions To Start Your Burnout Recovery Your Way
Hey everyone, it's Cait Donovan here, and I'm thrilled to dive into a topic that's been buzzing in our Facebook group - kickstarting your burnout recovery. I get it, finding the right starting point is tricky because your burnout journey is as unique as you are. So today, we're going to have a reflective journey with questions designed to guide you through your burnout recovery.Episode Highlights:These ten questions will help you reflect deeply on yourself. Understanding where your life feels unfair or where you're using energy without fu...
2024-02-04
25 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Monica Wang: How to Burnout, Recover, and Keep Your Job
Hello, listeners! I'm Cait Donovan, and I'm excited about today's episode. Our guest, Dr. Monica Wang, will share her inspiring journey of overcoming burnout as a veterinarian, incorporating Chinese medicine into her healing process. She’ll discuss her challenges of burnout in veterinary school, Traditional Chinese Veterinary Medicine, the importance of self-care, and how small changes impacted her well-being. She will also talk about how she set boundaries, embraced core values, reduced work hours, managed burnout, and achieved work-life balance.Episode Highlights:Monica encourages people to discover and embrace their values. Imagine th...
2024-01-28
1h 02
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Start Your Burnout Recovery by Taking The "Good Plate"
In today's episode, I will talk about breaking the cycle of assumptions, communicating openly about preferences, and embracing tasks and experiences that bring personal joy and fulfillment.Episode Highlights:Cait Donovan talks about challenging the habit of self-sacrifice, exploring resentment as a tool for defining boundaries, and encouraging individuals to prioritize their needs and desires, symbolized by the metaphor of "giving yourself the good plate."Cait encourages listeners to prioritize their own needs and desires, challenging the habit of self-sacrifice, and urging them to stop giving away...
2024-01-07
11 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Bronwyn Davis: Ketamine Assisted Breakthroughs for Burnout Recovery
Welcome, dear listeners, to a captivating transformation and personal growth journey. I'm Cait Donovan, your host for today's episode. In this episode, we have the incredible privilege of delving into a conversation that promises to be nothing short of life-changing. She's not just here to talk the talk; she's walked the walk. So, grab your favorite beverage, get comfy, and prepare to be inspired as we introduce you to the remarkable Bronwyn Davis.Episode Highlights:Bronwyn Davis stresses the importance of embracing new approaches to personal growth, emphasizing that...
2023-12-17
53 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: How Festivus from Seinfeld can Help with Workplace Burnout
In today's episode, I will talk about the concept of Festivus from Seinfeld and how its elements, such as the Festivus pole, airing of grievances, feats of strength, and the declaration of Festivus miracles, can be adapted to address workplace burnout.Episode Highlights:Cait Donovan talks about Festivus from Seinfeld, exploring each of its element's application in battling burnout. Cait stresses the importance of simplicity, open communication, setting achievable goals, and celebrating positive changes in creating a healthier work environment.Cait encourages listeners to get their own Festivus miracle by...
2023-12-10
11 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Diann Wingert: How ADHD and Burnout Are Related - and What to Do About It
In today's episode, Diann Wingert and I will talk about the relationship between ADHD and burnout. We will discuss how they affect each other and identify what people who suffer from both can do to help themselves recover quickly.Episode Highlights:Diann and Cait talk about how ADHD and burnout relate to each other. They emphasize that people with ADHD tend to be either extremely obsessed or completely disinterested in something. They discuss how the intense curiosity and enthusiasm associated with ADHD can lead to a lack of boundaries...
2023-12-03
50 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: What Can Companies Do to Reduce Burnout Risk?
In today's episode, I will talk about how companies can help reduce burnout risk with their employees. I will be emphasizing the importance of individual responsibility in recovering from burnout and how a supportive work environment can help to recovery.Episode Highlights:Cait Donovan talks about the intricacies of burnout recovery, emphasizing each individual's pivotal role in the process. She highlights the limited impact of company-initiated changes and recent insights into working with companies on burnout-proofing and culture improvement. Cait stresses the importance of personal investment in their own recovery from burnout.
2023-11-26
23 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: How to End Rumination, People Pleasing, and Perfectionism
A wonderful day to everyone! I’m Cait Donovan, your burnout recovery coach, helping you in your healing journey. Today, I will address the question of one user in the Facebook group about taking small, daily, simple actions to overcome rumination, people-pleasing, and perfectionism. I also highlight the ideas of other members to handle these problems effectively. Episode Highlights:To deal with rumination, there are two actions you can do. Firstly, when you notice you’re ruminating, stop it immediately. Then close your eyes, inhale and exhale, and question yoursel...
2023-11-12
11 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Amelia Nagoski: Unlocking the Stress Cycle, Dealing with Privilege, and Increasing Interoception to Get Out of Burnout
Hello, lovely listeners! I'm Cait Donovan, your host for today's episode, and I am thrilled to introduce our guest, Amelia Nagoski. Today, we dive deep into her illuminating book, "Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle," a woman's sexual well-being intrinsically linked to a woman’s overall well-being and more about the stress response. Amelia Nagoski is an absolute powerhouse when it comes to understanding and navigating the complex web of emotions and stressors that we all encounter in our lives. Episode Highlights:Amelia Nagoski shares the inspiration behind her book, "Burnout: The...
2023-11-05
59 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Why Does Burnout Recovery Take So Long?
Hey there, curious minds, and welcome to today's episode. I'm Cait Donovan, your trusted companion on this exciting journey. We're about to unravel why burnout recovery can be a lengthier process than you might think. From the physical aspects of healing to understanding the web of causation, we'll explore the nuances of this transformative path. Discover why it's okay to bump into your growth edges and how post-burnout growth can be beautiful. Let's dive in and uncover the fascinating layers of burnout recovery.Episode Highlights:Cait reveals that recovering from burnout is...
2023-10-29
19 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: 3 Core Components of Burnout Recovery
Hello, lovely souls, and welcome to today's episode. I'm Cait Donovan, and I'm truly honored to be your guide as we dive into the essential tools for recovering from burnout. We'll talk about the healing power of yoga, the importance of foundational self-care, the creation of an upgraded boundary system, and the immense value of community in your burnout recovery process. Stay tuned as we unpack these essential tools, share practical insights, and embark on a journey toward a life filled with more balance, joy, and purpose.Episode Highlights:Cait emphasizes the...
2023-10-15
07 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Bad Advice for Burnout (and what to do instead)
In today's episode, I will talk about the bad advice you can get regarding burnout and how those pieces of advice came to be due to certain misconceptions. I will be emphasizing how burnout is not solely a mental or thought issue but a systemic one involving various aspects of life. Episode Highlights:Cait Donovan talks about burnout advice she wrote about two years ago and still agree with. She talks about how many people perceive burnout as solely a mental or thought-related issue, which affects the how they distinguish between burnout prevention a...
2023-10-01
15 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Behind the Scenes of Burnout Recovery
In today's episode, I will discuss my own experiences with burnout recovery and talk about all the misconceptions that often surround it. I will give emphasize the importance of seeking support, learning from setbacks, and acknowledging that progress may not always follow a linear path. Episode Highlights:Cait Donovan talks about experiences and mistakes during her burnout recovery journey and the challenges of progress recognition, the need for ongoing effort, the dangers of prematurely ending recovery efforts, the importance of allowing others to come to their own realizations, and the pitfalls of overexertion a...
2023-09-02
20 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Paula Liub: Autistic and Neurodivergent Burnout Recovery
In today's episode, I have a heartfelt conversation about an often overlooked aspect of burnout – its intersection with autism and neurodivergence. My guest, Paula Liub, a burnout coach for people who identify as neurodivergent, shares her personal journey of overcoming burnout as a neurodivergent individual, getting a late autism diagnosis and offers valuable insights into understanding and managing burnout within the neurodivergent community.Episode Highlights:Paula Liub shares her personal burnout story, which she describes as having three distinct stages. She recounts her journey from experiencing repetitive burnouts, recognizing the need for ch...
2023-08-27
37 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Owen Fitzpatrick: Using the Power of Belief to Boost Burnout Recovery
In this episode, Cait sits down with Owen Fitzpatrick, a Certified Speaking Professional (CSP) and renowned psychologist, who has worked with esteemed organizations like Coca-Cola, Google, JP Morgan, LinkedIn, Pfizer, and Salesforce. Owen's vast experience also includes coaching billionaires and Olympic athletes and delivering captivating talks in 31 countries. He has shared the stage with luminaries like Sir Richard Branson and Seth Godin.Owen introduces the concept of "Belief Leadership," focusing on how beliefs shape behavior. The discussion delves into how burnout affects cognitive function and decision-making processes. They emphasize the importance of recognizing one's...
2023-08-20
53 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: How to Tell if Its Burnout or Stress
In this episode of Fried. The Burnout Podcast, I delve into the topic of differentiating between burnout and stress. I often encounter this question from you, my magic listeners, and others: whether it's at conferences, speaking gigs, or even in the Facebook group. Understanding the distinction between burnout and stress is crucial to address the issue effectively. So let's explore how to recognize and differentiate between these two conditions.Burnout is not simply an escalated form of stress but rather an end result of chronic, unresolved stress over extended periods. According to the World...
2023-08-13
09 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Mandy Lehto: The 7 Realistic Phases of Burnout
Dr. Mandy Lehto was a people pleaser for such a long period of time that she ended up completely disconnected from herself. She found herself snappy and irritable, consistently pushing herself harder and farther beyond the limits of what she could handle. After a scary moment collapsing while boxing, Dr. Lehto realized something was wrong that even the world’s strongest coffee would not be able to fix. Through her burnout recovery journey, Dr. Lehto identified 7 realistic phases of burnout which she uses to guide others through their own burnout recoveries. As a perfectionist and peop...
2023-07-30
1h 03
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Mel Hopper Koppelman: Solving Complex Health Problems Related to Burnout
Mel Hopper Koppelman was so burned out that in spite of being longtime friends with host Cait Donovan, she did not immediately recognize her own connection with childhood trauma and burnout. Growing up labeled as a “gifted kid”, Mel developed blind spots regarding aspects of her neurological development that were lacking. As an adult, she developed complex chronic health issues. Because of her blind spots, it would be years before Mel realized the connection between her childhood experiences, her health issues, and burnout. Now, as the founder of Synthesis Health Lab, Mel helps other people who are struggling with chro...
2023-07-23
54 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Coping Mechanisms and Burnout: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Coping mechanisms are something that you use every single day, probably without even realizing it. These coping mechanisms start to develop as soon as you are born, forming based on your relationship with your primary caregiver. Depending on how that relationship goes, you form one of four attachment styles, three of which can make you more prone to burnout later in life. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, host and burnout aficionado Cait Donovan explains what coping mechanisms are and how to tell whether your current coping mechanisms would be considered adaptive or maladaptive. Pretty much all...
2023-07-16
16 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: How Childhood Trauma is Related to Burnout (Even if You Think You Have None)
Even if you do not think you have experienced childhood trauma, there are many ways that childhood experiences can impact your ability to regulate your emotions. Adverse childhood experiences or ACEs include both events that happened to you like abuse or neglect and events that you simply witnessed. Trauma impacts child brain development at an epigenetic level, causing deficiencies in the part of the brain responsible for executive functioning and emotion regulation. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, host Cait Donovan discusses the link between ACEs and burnout. Adverse childhood experiences impact the brain in a way...
2023-06-18
25 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Kelley Bronner: Black Girl Burnout, The True Meaning of Work, and Why EVERYONE Should Center Joy
Kelley Bonner experienced burnout while working in what she thought would be her forever job. Since she was a little girl, she had dreamed of becoming a prison social worker. As a Black woman and daughter of an immigrant mother, she was inspired by her desire to help Black and Brown people who are disproportionately harmed by the prison system. After nearly three years of working what was supposed to be her dream job, Kelley found herself having a full blown panic attack on the floor of the prison complex. Approximately six months later, she quit her job with...
2023-06-11
53 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcaitandsarah: How to Assess, Access, and Assemble the Resources You Need for Optimizing Burnout Recovery
During burnout, it’s common to not use your resources in the most efficient way. An important step in burnout recovery is to look at how you are using your resources like time, energy, money, and community and see where you could be resourcing more sustainably. In today’s #straightfromcaitandsarah episode, host Cait Donovan and FRIED Burnout Recovery Guide, Sarah Vosen, discuss how to assess, access, and assemble the resources you need to optimize your burnout recovery. In Sarah’s burnout recovery group coaching, she leads a resourcing exercise which compares the human body to a tree u...
2023-06-04
38 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: The 3 Types of Self Care that are Critical to Burnout Recovery
When people think about self-care they often picture soaking in a bubble bath, but in reality, self-care is so much more than that. Self-care is an absolutely critical part of burnout recovery. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait Donovan, host and burnout speaker, shares the three types of self-care that are crucial for both burnout prevention and recovery. Cait explains that the number one type of self-care for burnout is foundational self-care. This means that you must take the time to learn how to recognize your body’s signals and actually respond to them. As you d...
2023-05-21
18 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Rebecca Kase: Polyvagal Informed EMDR: A Neuro-informed Approach to Healing
Rebecca Kase is the Owner of Rebecca Kase & CO, LLC as well as a licensed clinical social worker and author of Polyvagal Informed EMDR: A Neuro Informed Approach To Healing. You may remember her burnout story from a previous episode of FRIED. Rebecca began studying polyvagal theory at the start of the pandemic and is now an EMDR consultant and trainer. Today, she discusses the science behind polyvagal theory, how EMDR works, and how to use neuroception for healing the stress responses of the autonomic nervous system. Polyvagal theory was developed by a researcher who w...
2023-05-14
56 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Nikki Hume: Teacher Burnout and the International Teaching Experience
Nikki Hume is an art teacher at an international school in Manila. She taught for 9 years in the states before teaching abroad and attributes her two burnout experiences with helping her to learn very valuable life lessons. Today, Nikki discusses teacher burnout and how it relates to her own experiences teaching internationally. Educator burnout has a variety of root causes, but one of the largest is a lack of proper work life balance and well-established boundaries. Nikki explains that in international schools there is actually even less of a clear divide between school and personal li...
2023-04-23
56 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Celebrating 100 Guests and 100 Burnout Recovery Tips
From learning body signals to learning about the link between energy expenditure and finances, over 100 guests have opened up and shared their burnout stories. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait Donovan, host and burnout speaker, shares burnout recovery tips from 2 guests from each season of FRIED, including lessons from guests like Ashley Rose, Maggie Reyes, Simone Craig, Dr. Valerie Ryan, and more. Ashley Rose was the first guest ever on FRIED. She and Cait spoke about how childhood trauma creates a greater risk of burnout as an adult. Next, Cait recalls the episode with Maggie Rey...
2023-04-16
21 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Burnout and Exercise - What, How Much, and When
If you used to have an exercise routine before burning out, you may be wondering when it is safe to start exercising again. The truth is that it differs for everyone, and you know your body better than anyone else. Learning to listen to your body and make adjustments based on what it is telling you is key for burnout recovery. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait Donovan, host and burnout speaker, shares tips for incorporating exercise into your burnout recovery. Movement is critical for your overall health. Resting is a big part of recovery too...
2023-04-02
17 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Getting Your Energy Back During Burnout Recovery
During your burnout recovery, you will likely still not be at your original energy level for a while. It takes a different amount of time for everyone, but in Cait’s experience the average time frame has been around 18 months. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait Donovan, host and burnout speaker, shares 8 tips for helping to get your energy back during recovery. Doing too much all at once can cause you to do more harm than good for your recovery. Start with choosing one thing to work on, and then once it becomes a habit you ca...
2023-03-19
09 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Ewa Błaszczak: Heal Your Burnout by Detoxing Your Communication
Ewa Błaszczak is a mentor for leaders and teams, an author, professional speaker, and coaching mentor to host Cait Donovan. Recently she wrote a book in Polish that began as a TED talk about the toxicity of sarcasm and developed into a deep dive on how to detoxify communication. Communication toxins are a natural defense mechanism that developed in response to our reptilian brain’s need for psychological safety and early humans’ reliance on one another to survive. When you are in a toxic environment, you are likely to fight others through your communication choices...
2023-03-12
55 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: Healing a Burnt Out Brain
The steps for healing from burnout are different from what is required to prevent burnout. When you are burnt out and experiencing chronic stress, the part of your brain responsible for executive functioning actually loses neurons. This means that you may struggle more with memory loss and keeping up with all of the day to day responsibilities that come with adulting. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait Donovan, host and burnout speaker, shares her tips for healing a burnt out brain. In order to heal your brain and regain executive functioning skills, you should aim to...
2023-03-05
13 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcaitandsarah: Answering Your Most Common Burnout Questions
Recovering from burnout requires you to be okay with being uncomfortable. Rest is actually incredibly productive, and even though you might feel restless or guilty about sitting still it is vital for recovery. In today’s #straightfromcaitandsarah episode, Cait Donovan, host and burnout speaker, and Sarah Vosen, FRIED burnout coach, answer your most common burnout questions from the FRIED Facebook group. If you are expending too much time and energy and not receiving enough resources back, this will contribute to burnout. You can’t go into burnout recovery the same way as you tackle other issue...
2023-02-26
47 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
#straightfromcait: The Workplace is a Trauma Recycling Center
There are two major theories when it comes to burnout. The first is that it is entirely preventable through a simple shift in workplace culture. The second is that burnout is not always avoidable but can be eliminated through self-care, establishing boundaries, and self-advocacy. According to Cait, the truth is somewhere in the middle. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait, host and burnout speaker, talks about the workplace as a trauma recycling center and what that means for burnout. A toxic workplace often is the result of people recycling their own traumas back onto their pee...
2023-02-12
14 min
Making It: How Coaches, Consultants, and Creators Build for Success
From Burnout to Bliss (Cait Donovan)
Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Welcome to Making It! This weekly show explores the lives and stories of entrepreneurs as they share their unique perspectives on their success and the path to making it. Cait Donovan is the host of Fried – The Burnout Podcast, and author of the book The Bouncebackability Factor: End Burnout, Gain Resilience, and Change the World. Since recovering from her own bout of burnout, she has helped thousands of others find their way to balance and serenity. In this episode of Maki...
2022-07-01
10 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Kimberley Taylor: A Money Mindset Expert Shares Her Lowest Low And The Restaurant Tears That Lead To Her Healing
In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Kimberley Taylor, a Mindset Expert and Certified NLP Practitioner who helps successful women entrepreneurs smash through their inner limits and welcome in more income, confidence & impact. Using her multi-disciplined coaching style, she helps her clients to fully release the baggage that is slowing them down, reimagine what is possible for them and create their own unique success blueprint. By helping women to uncover and release their past limitations and money stories, she enables them to achieve results like selling out their programs on repeat, doubling their rates and s...
2020-08-30
57 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Nicole Liloia: Teaches Us How to Use Laziness To Heal from Burnout and Earn More Money (while Watching Dawson's Creek) with Cait Donovan
In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Nicole Liloia, a therapist and business strategist who helps women entrepreneurs build bigger businesses and create consistent income growth by helping them create multiple income streams. Her system allows her clients the freedom to work less, while still making more money. Nicole got her Masters in Social Work from Columbia University, loves Taco Tuesdays and Apothic wine. Nicole talks about her experience living on a small salary in the Big Apple and how that contributes to burnout, her love for travel and how that inspired her to bust...
2020-08-16
50 min
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast
Cait Donovan: The Host of FRIED Shares Her Burnout Story
This is it. Nathalie Norris, nutritionist and all-around superstar asked Cait if she could reverse interview her for FRIED, and Cait agreed. Here, you get the background story, Cait's burnout story, her methods for keeping it at bay these days and her plans for her business in 2020. If you've been curious about what got Cait where she is, this is the one you've been waiting for.... show notes at: www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/cait-donovan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
2019-10-30
1h 08