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What Say U?Community, Accountability & Policing: A Conversation with LAAPACIn this episode, the Sisters talk with Ria J Johnson-Covington of the Lakewood African American Police Accountability Committee (LAAPAC) about community safety, accountability, and building stronger relationships between Lakewood’s African American community and the Lakewood Police Department.
LAAPAC Meetings
2nd Wednesday • 3:00 PM
Lakewood Police Station
9401 Lakewood Dr SW, Lakewood, WA 98499
Connect With LAAPAC
Facebook: LAAPAC – Lakewood African American Police Advisory Committee
A community-led group working to unify Lakewood residents and the police department.
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Public Safety Advisory Committee – Provides community input to the Lakewood City Cou...
2026-01-231h 04
Nerd Farmer PodcastGrokipedia and the Musk Disinformation System – Jason Wilson, The Guardian – #253Guardian correspondent Jason Wilson joined us to discuss his reporting on Elon Musk’s new Grokipedia.
The service, an online encyclopedia and purported rival to Wikipedia, serves up white nationalist talking points, pseudoscientific racial theories, and sanitized profiles of extremist figures. The encyclopedia’s articles are written by Musk’s Grok AI, which has its own problems with racism and pseudoscience.
Later in the episode, Wilson described how a new “transparency” feature on Musk’s Zombie Twitter (X) inadvertently exposed that many prominent “MAGA” and “America First” accounts had been run from abroad, including accounts operated from Russia...
2025-11-2549 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastArmenia and Azerbaijan: A Lasting Peace? – Sevinc Osmanqizi – #250This week we welcome back Azeri dissident journalist Sevinc Osmanqizi, joining us for her third appearance on the show. Sevinc is one of the most prominent independent voices covering Azerbaijan and has a massive Azeri language YouTube Channel with over 600k followers.
When news broke that Armenia and Azerbaijan had reached an agreement many see as the formal end to their decades-long dispute over Nagorno-Karabakh, Sevinc was the first person I wanted to hear from.
In this conversation, she helped me unpack what the deal actually means on the ground, how it’s being received in...
2025-09-2938 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastAI and Data Privacy – Bill Fitzgerald, Privacy Activist – 243Bill Fitzgerald is a privacy activist and vociferous critic of the data protection practices of Big Tech.
In this week’s episode Bill came on to talk about the data privacy implications of putting AI in everything (and putting everything, as in your data, into AI), and the wider societal implications.
Bill also did an episode of Off-the-Record about data privacy precautions to take when transiting through customs and immigration. Channel 253 Members can check the member only podcast feed and Member Slack for that conversation.
Cast of Characters: Bill – Mastodon
2025-06-2550 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastThe 2025 Housing Market – Marguerite Martin, Move to Tacoma – 238Marguerite Martin is a co-founder of Channel 253 and creator of Move to Tacoma. This is an update to her and my ongoing conversation about housing policy and real estate. You can find my previous conversations with her and many of our other conversations about housing below.
Join the #NerdFarmRead book club! We’re reading How to Stand Up to a Dictator by Maria Ressa. Members, also check the Slack Channel #Books for details of our upcoming discussion on Parable of the Sower.
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2025-03-1742 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastCreating the Seattle Green Book – Amanda Williams, Denkyem Finance – 237Amanda Willams is a former teacher in Seattle Public Schools and is the creator of the Seattle Green Book, an online listing of Black Owned Businesses in the Seattle Area. She joined us to talk about creating the Green Book and her work with Denkyem Finance, a Seattle Based community development financial institution.
Join the #NerdFarmRead book club! We’re reading How to Stand Up to a Dictator by Maria Ressa. Members, also check the Slack Channel #Books for details of our upcoming discussion on Parable of the Sower.
Going Further:...
2025-03-0347 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastPreviewing the 2025 Oscars – Chase Hutchinson and Andrew Hammond – 236This week’s episode is a change of pace for the show.
Film critic Chase Hutchinson joined us for a conversation about the upcoming 97th Academy Awards. We talked through who we think will win each of the major categories and who we think should win.
You’ll hear a breakdown of the Oscar frontrunners and why the rise of Anora seems to be breaking Nate’s brain.
Join the #NerdFarmRead book club! We’re reading How to Stand Up to a Dictator by Maria Ressa. Members, also check the Slack Channel #B...
2025-02-2153 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastHow the Middle East Sees the New US Administration – Willy Lowry, The National – 235Following the inauguration of Donald Trump last month, reactions in the U.S. ranged from jubilation to alarm—depending on one’s political leanings and level of engagement. But how is the new admin being received beyond American borders? In this episode, we flip the “local lens” outward to examine how the new administration is being viewed in this neck of the woods.
Our guest is Willy Lowry, Washington correspondent for The National. He joins us to break down the regional response to the news admin. We discussed how the US’ growing reputation as an unreliable partner is pushing...
2025-02-1033 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastFresh Imperial Ambitions – Zoltan Grossman, Evergreen State College – 234In this episode, we discuss the US’ renewed expansionist ambitions with Zoltan Grossman, a professor of Geography and Indigenous Studies at Evergreen State College. Grossman helped me unpack some throughlines connecting 19th century Manifest Destiny to 21st-century imperialism and discussed the stakes for indigenous communities caught in the crosshairs of these ambitions.
We also talked about the fight to recolonize place names like that of Mt. McKinley.
Join the #NerdFarmRead book club! We’re reading How to Stand Up to a Dictator by Maria Ressa. Members, also check the Slack Channel #Books for details of our u...
2025-02-0244 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastTacoma Audio Voters’ Guide, Part I – Evelyn Lopez, Crossing Division and Nathe Lawver, Pierce County Labor Council – 228This is Part One of a Tacoma Audio Voters’ Guide. In this conversation, we talked through the Congressional races, statewide initiatives, statewide offices, Pierce County judges, and a proposed fire and safety levy for the City of Tacoma.
In this episode, we were joined by Evelyn Lopez, host of Channel 253 show Crossing Division and Nathe Lawver, who brought the perspective of the Pierce County and Washington State Labor Councils to the conversation.
In a subsequent conversation, Evelyn will go over the State Supreme Court races and the proposed Charter Amendments for the City of Tacoma, ov...
2024-10-1049 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastA Tacoma-Centric Year in Review, Part II – Erik Hanberg, Citizen Tacoma and Evelyn Lopez, Crossing Division – #211Happy New Year!
Recorded live in the Moonyard Studios in gorgeous North Tacoma, this episode is the second of our two part 2023 Year in Review. If you missed Part I, you can find it here.
We were joined again in the studio by Erik Hanberg, President of Channel 253 and host of Citizen Tacoma and Evelyn Lopez co-host of Crossing Division.
In this episode we each gave end of the year awards for:
Tacoman of the Year
Story of the Year
Things we’re watching going into 2024
Cast of Characters
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2023-12-2934 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastA Tacoma-Centric Year in Review, Part I – Erik Hanberg, Citizen Tacoma and Evelyn Lopez, Crossing Division – #210
Happy Holidays!
Recorded live in the Moonyard Studios in gorgeous North Tacoma, this episode is the first of our two part 2023 Year in Review.
We were joined in the studio by Erik Hanberg, President of Channel 253 and host of Citizen Tacoma and Evelyn Lopez co-host of Crossing Division.
Here’s the contact info for Compassion Tacoma the organization Evelyn mentioned who are providing mutual aid to people experiencing homelessness in Tacoma.
In this episode we each gave end of the year awards for:
Story you wish got more coverage
Profile in...
2023-12-2647 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastLaunching a Reader Supported Soccer Journalism Project – Jeremiah Oshan, Editor-in-Chief Sounder at Heart – #207Jeremiah Oshan is a recovering newspaper journalist and the editor-in-chief of Sounder at Heart. Sounder at Heart is the most read blog in US club soccer. The website was previously a part of Vox’s SB Nation but Oshan and the team took the site independent earlier this year.
He joined us to talk about that story and the roster questions facing the Sounders in the coming off season.
Channel 253 Members, you can find an additional conversation with Oshan on the Off the Record feed where we shared our MLS era best XI..
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2023-11-0751 minNerd Farmer PodcastThe End of the Conflict Over Nagorno-Karabakh? – Sevinc Osmanqizi – #205In March, on episode 188, we welcomed Azeri journalist Sevinc Osmanqizi on the show for a conversation about the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh.
On September 19, that conflict was reignited, with Azerbaijan winning a decisive victory and forcing over 100,000 ethnic Armenians out of the region. Some commenters called this the end of the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh, a dispute that’s been raging on & off since the fall of the Soviet Union, but has roots even earlier.
So earlier this month we reached back out to Sevinc for an update and to...
2023-10-1642 minNerd Farmer PodcastNerd Farmer Live: “Episode 200” – Lessons from the Last Five Years – Jenna Hanchard, Will James, Melissa Santos, and Matt DriscollIn June, over a hundred friends and members of Channel 253 gathered for Channel 253 Fest, an evening of live podcasting from the Press Room in downtown Tacoma. It was a great event and this week’s episode is the audio from that evening.
Each All Star Guest appeared on the show for the first time in 2017 and joined us to talk about lessons learned and how they’ve become smarter over the last five years.
We’re calling this “Episode 200”, (it’s really episode 197).
Matt and Melissa closed the evening
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2023-07-171h 00
Nerd Farmer PodcastRunning a Small Biz in Tacoma Series, Part 1 — Russ Heaton, Doyles Public House — #195This summer we are hosting a series highlighting small businesses and their struggles and triumphs in Tacoma. Opening the series, we have a conversation with Russ Heaton the proprietor of Doyle’s Pub, named one of the best bars in America by Esquire. Doyle’s has been open in the heart of the Stadium District for seventeen years.
Doyle’s is a Liverpool and Sounders bar and as you will hear Russ wears his heart on his sleeve.
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2023-06-2653 min
We Art Tacoma“The Tacoma Method” | A special “Off the Record” with Gregory YoutzThe “Off the Record” podcast is normally available exclusively for Channel 253 members. But this was a special enough episode we wanted to publish it widely.
If you appreciate this interview with Gregory Youtz about The Tacoma Method opera, please consider joining Channel 253 as a member.
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2023-03-3033 min
Nerd Farmer Podcast“Dopesick” by Beth Macy — Nerd Farm Reads Audio Book Club — #187This is our long awaited conversation about Dopesick by Beth Macy. Dopesick is the story of the orign and rise of the opioid crisis and the actions of pharmaceutical companies in flooding our communities with drugs. The opioid crisis, a uniquely American problem, was manufactured by capitalism and our market-based health care system.
In the book, Macy looks at how a black market pill crisis became a heroin crisis, and has now become an overdose crisis that claims nearly 100k lives each year.
Dopesick generated more conversation of the Channel 253 Member Slack than any topic w...
2023-03-1356 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastLIVE: Adult Civics Happy Hour, Previewing the 2023 Legislative Session – #183On December 22, Channel 253 hosted the first Adult Civics Happy Hour since the start of the pando. This is the second of two panels from that evening.
Cast of Characters
Rep Elect Sharlett Mena – 29th LD – Twitter
Rep Jessica Bateman – 22nd LD – Twitter
Sen Yasimn Trudeau – 27th LD – Twitter
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2023-01-0142 minNerd Farmer PodcastLIVE: Adult Civics Happy Hour, the Troyer Trial – Kari Plog, KNKX and Jared Brown, TNT – #182On December 22, Channel 253 hosted the first Adult Civics Happy Hour since the start of the pando. This is the first of two panels from that evening.
Cast of Characters
Kari Plog – KNKX FM
Jared Brown – TNT
Going Further
Prior podcast coverage of the Troyer case: here, here, and here.
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2022-12-2634 minNerd Farmer PodcastThe Case Against Ed Troyer, Part 2 – Justin Camarata – Reviewing Evidence from the Public Record – #174In this episode, the second of a two-part series, we continue exploring the controversial term of Pierce County Sheriff, Ed Troyer. In this episode, we look and the public record including two official investigations into Troyer’s misconduct, first as the department’s Public Information Officer and eventually as Sheriff.
Our guest today is Justin Camarata. He is a former member of the Tacoma City Council and a regular guest across the shows here on Channel 253. This conversation leans heavily on the reporting of local journalists, particularly Kari Plog from KNKX. Each document or report we refer to in...
2022-09-0744 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastThe Case Against Ed Troyer, Part 1: Troyer and the Black Community – Jamika Scott – Tacoma Action Collective – #173In this episode, the first of a two-part series, we dig into the turbulent term of the elected Pierce County Sheriff, Ed Troyer. In this episode, we look at Troyer’s influence on the investigation into the killing of Manuel Ellis and his stalking & harassing of Black newspaper delivery driver Sedrick Altheimer, which we covered in 2021. This conversation is focused on Troyer’s impact on the Black community and Black residents in Pierce County. In part two, we will take a longer look at the public record on Sheriff Troyer.
Our guest today is Jamika Scott. She is a...
2022-08-2248 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastHow to Resist Amazon and Why — Danny Caine, Author & Bookseller — #171Danny Caine is the co-owner and proprietor of the Raven Bookstore in Lawrence, Kansas. He is also the author of How to Resist Amazon and Why a zine/audiobook about the business practices of Amazon and how they harm society. We discussed his book and the monopolistic, predatory market behavior that Amazon engages in: data mining, exploiting marketplace sellers & sub-contractors, union busting, etc.
In the second segment, we talked about some alternatives to Amazon products that we utilize, like our friends at LibroFM (remember to use promo code “Tacoma”), rather than Audible and the recent choice to move...
2022-08-0141 min
Nerd Farmer PodcastThe January 6 Hearings, Christian Nationalism, and the Campaign Against the LGBTQ Community – Professor Will Horne, Activist History Review – #167The founding thesis of this podcast back in 2017 was that national politics in the US is largely broken, possibly irreparably, and that it’s essential to put our collective energy into state/local activism, issues, and elections. My life choices have taken me overseas since then but that ethos remains at the heart of this show and the Channel 253 Podcast Network.
The rightward momentum that in many ways inspired this podcast is arguably stronger than ever. In this week’s conversation with Will Horne we talked about three legs of the current Christian theocratic movement: white rage poli...
2022-06-2553 minWhat Say U?Episode 44—Where “Rights” begin and “Privilege” ends!The sisters discuss how exercising one’s “right” to not wear a mask or get the COVID vaccine directly correlates to the loss of privilege (and lives).
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2021-09-0751 min
Gimme the Mic Podcast3.6: Julie Masura—Community Science and Preserving the Salish Sea with Tracie BarryWe meet Tracie Barry during our final episode of Bad Ass Women in Science. Tracie shares how a community college student ended up on a UW research vessel exploring plankton off the coast of Washington state, which catapulted her to becoming the Marine Biotoxin Specialist at Washington State’s Department of Health. Learn how to become involved in this work as a community scientist and the importance of preserving the Salish Sea.
About the host
Julie Masura is an Associate Teaching Professor and Research Scientist at the University of Washington Tacoma
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2021-07-2950 minGimme the Mic Podcast3.5: Julie Masura—Students as scientistsJoyce Dinglasan-Panlilio, environmental chemist shares how she uses primary research in her teaching beginning with first year students at the University of Washington Tacoma. She emphasizes the need for students to see themselves as scientists no matter where they are. Dr. Joyce talks about her work with environmental contaminants known to have toxic effects on organisms, and how important it is to engage the community in this research.
About the host
Julie Masura is an Associate Teaching Professor and Research Scientist at the University of Washington Tacoma
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2021-07-2355 minWhat Say U?Episode 43—White Can Do RightThe sisters tackle the question of “good white people” and how white can do right.
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2021-07-231h 03
Taco-ManOff the Record: “The Fortress of Taco-Tude” with Taco-ManEvery week, Channel 253 releases a special members-only podcast called “Off the Record.” This short show is hosted by Producer Doug. It is sometimes serious and sometimes very much not serious. This is one of those very much not serious episodes.
And since it’s been a while since we’ve seen Taco-Man around these parts, we thought we’d share this special episode with everyone. Enjoy.
If you’d like to subscribe to Off the Record episodes every week, join Channel 253 as a member and follow the instructions. Thanks!
2021-07-0906 minWhat Say U?Episode 41—Black Lives Matter: Ask The ExpertSakara Remmu, Chief Strategist for the Washington Black Lives Matter Alliance, brings background, knowledge, intel and receipts on the Manuel Ellis murder conviction update AND Pierce County Sherrif, Ed Troyer’s journey to accountability for his EGREGIOUS caucastic behavior.
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2021-06-251h 02Gimme the Mic Podcast3.4: Julie Masura—Experiential learning in the environmentCheryl Greengrove, founding science faculty at the University of Washington Tacoma, shares how she connects her research in the Salish Sea with teaching undergraduate students how to become effective, ethical, and essential scientists in the South Puget Sound. Her initial vision of experiential learning in one’s environment has continued to be the foundation of programming in UWT’s Environmental Science Major.
About the host
Julie Masura is an Associate Teaching Professor and Research Scientist at the University of Washington Tacoma
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Puget Sound Institute’s Encyclopedia of Puget...
2021-06-2453 minGimme the Mic Podcast3.3: Julie Masura—Studying the health of the Puget SoundThis episode features Ashley Carle, the Environmental Procedures Coordinator & NEPA Specialist for the Washington State Department of Transportation. Ashley shares with us her involvement in studying environmental issues in Puget Sound, including harmful algae and emerging pollutants from road runoff. During her time as a research scientist, her focus has grown to include an inclusion lens to ensure her agency’s work conscientiously ensures underrepresented community members benefit from their work.
About the host
Julie Masura is an Associate Teaching Professor and Research Scientist at the University of Washington Tacoma
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2021-06-1843 minWhat Say U?Episode 40—It’s 2021… Do You Know Your Teenager?Sisters Melannie and Audrey are joined by 14-year-old Jalean, their granddaughter and great niece (respectively)! Girlfriend is spilling generation Z “tea” about what your teens may be thinking. Don’t miss out on this truth-tellin’ episode… even if your “baby” ain’t a teen… yet!
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2021-06-091h 00What Say U?Episode 39—The Mashup Episode – So much to say, So little time!In their unique style, listen in on the Sisters’ journey with the COVID vaccine, C-suite commitment to anti-racism, police accountability and reform (nationally and locally) and their “living while black” perspective on other recent events.
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2021-05-281h 03Gimme the Mic Podcast3.2: Julie Masura—GIS, not just for making maps anymore!We continue our badass women of science from the south sound series with Episode 2.
What do scientists do with all that data? How can you access or learn about data and how it is used? Catherine Crook, Enterprise Manager for the City of Kent talks about her journey from epidemiologist to Geographic Information Systems Manager here in the South Puget Sound. Learn how a university in downtown Tacoma FINALLY created a sustainable recycling program.
About the host
Julie Masura is an Associate Teaching Professor and Research Scientist at the University of Washington Tacoma
2021-05-1246 minGimme the Mic Podcast3.1: Julie Masura—Badass Women of Science from the South SoundThis episode features Caitlyn McFarland, an instrument technician and fulfillment specialist at Seabird International. Caitlyn shares her pathway to working for an ocean research instrument company while studying the Puget Sound. Caitlyn worked on a number of projects as she pursued an environmental science degree at the University of Washington Tacoma. Listen to Caitlyn explain her involvement in studying harmful algae known to potentially produce deadly toxins right here in the Salish Sea.
About the host
Julie Masura is an Associate Teaching Professor and Research Scientist at the University of Washington Tacoma
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2021-05-1226 minWhat Say U?Episode 38—Caucasity in the WorkplaceCaucasity is the audacity of white people. Meaning, the willingness to take bold risks only white people feel safe doing. Join the Sisters as they provide recent examples of their lived experiences with caucasity in the workplace and their strategies to combat it.
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2021-05-051h 00What Say U?Episode 37—Black Lives Matter! – What’s The Problem?Black and brown people continue to be murdered by police across America. George Floyd is on trial for killing himself rather than Derrick Chauvin (the Minneapolis police officer who actually murdered him). The Sisters discuss why there is STILL debate, by many, about the declaration – Black Lives Matter!
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2021-04-2256 minWhat Say U?Episode 36—Why You Do That?Pierce County Sheriff, Ed Troyer is facing extreme pressure to resign after he claimed a Black newspaper delivery driver threatened his life. He later changed his story. The “receipts,” evidenced by the 911 recording and his official statement to the police, are in vast contradiction. In other words, he lied. Sisters Audrey and Melannie discuss the details of the case and ask out loud – “Ed… why you do that?”
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The ROOT Article about Sheriff Troyer
Washington Black Lives Matter Alliance
Seattle Times coverage
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2021-04-021h 00
Crossing DivisionLet’s Talk About Why It Is So Hard to Make Change! (March 26, 2021)Channel 253 continues its partnership with Tacoma’s Downtown on the Go Friday Forums in 2021. This year the forums focus on racism, urban design and transportation. After each forum, we will have a Crossing Division episode that expands on the discussion.
The March 26 DOTG Friday Forum discussed how government and transportation project decisions get made locally: Breaking the Urban Bubble – Race & Transportation Policy in Pierce County and Tacoma. Our follow up discussion is about local government decision making, and how anyone can become a more effective advocate.
Joining host Evelyn Lopez is frequent guest (and good spor...
2021-03-2837 minWhat Say U?Episode 35—How Did We Get So “Twisted Up” About Racism Anyway?The sisters go deep to understand why racism is what it is and how it continues to disease our communities. They examine their concerns through the academic lens of cycles of socialization and liberation then translate the meaning in their own “urban” way. This is real talk ya’ll.
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2021-03-1659 minWhat Say U?Episode 34—COVID-19 (Do a personal analysis!)What are you willing to sacrifice to save Human Lives? The sisters discuss individual choices people make during the pandemic that may contribute to the spread of COVID-19. Are these personal choices contributing to life… or death? You decide.
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2021-03-0352 minCrossing DivisionLet’s Talk About Harm Reduction: Decisions and Consequences with Shannon McMinimee (February 26, 2021)Channel 253 continues its partnership with Tacoma’s Downtown on the Go Friday Forums in 2021. This year the forums focus on racism, urban design and transportation. After each forum, we will have a Crossing Division episode that expands on the discussion.
The February 26 DOTG Friday Forum discussed the questions: “Can Street Safety be Anti-Racist? And How?” Our follow up discussion is about government policies, laws and rules, and whether making criminal laws is an appropriate response to non-violent activities. Who is harmed, and how can harm be reduced?
Government decision making is complicated and important, so we’re...
2021-02-271h 05Crossing DivisionDOTG Friday Forum – Can Street Safety be Anti-Racist? And How? (February 26, 2021)Channel 253 continues its partnership with Tacoma’s Downtown on the Go! In this second DOTG Friday Forum of 2021, the Panel discusses street safety and how safety rules and laws can set up negative interactions between residents and law enforcement. How can our public spaces be safe and anti-racist?
Panel:
Liz Kaster, Senior Planner & Active Transportation Coordinator, City of Tacoma (Public Works Dept.)
Isha Hussein, Youth Organizer, The People’s Assembly
Naomi Smith, Attorney at Law, Lawyers Against Systemic Racism, Advocacy Committee Co-chair
Tanisha Jumper, City of Tacoma (moderator)
This program will also be available on TV Taco...
2021-02-2758 minWhat Say U?Episode 33—Resurrection of LoveSisters Audrey and Melannie discuss strategies for people to have crucial conversations with family members, co-workers or anyone that is different from them, centered in love, for the purpose of accelerating the anti-racist movement.
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2021-02-091h 01Crossing DivisionNerd Crossing: WTF Tacoma! Who’s in Charge Here? (January 24, 2021)Sometime around 6:30 p.m. on Saturday, Jan 23, 2021, a crowd gathered at 9th and Pacific in Downtown Tacoma, watching one or more cars spin and burn circles in the intersection. A Tacoma Police Department SUV arrived on scene, and when the crowd gathered around the vehicle, the driver revved the engine and drove into the crowd, running over at least one person. Videos immediately hit social media.
What happened here? What does this tell us about the Tacoma Police Department? What does this tell us about Tacoma’s government and city leadership?
And what do we, as...
2021-01-2456 minCrossing DivisionLet’s Talk About When There Is No Sidewalk: Amenities, Equity, and Gentrification with Dorian Waller (January 23, 2021)Channel 253 is partnering with Tacoma’s Downtown on the Go Friday Forums in 2021. This year the forums focus on racism and urban design and transportation. After each forum, we will have a Crossing Division episode that expands on the discussion.
The January 22, DOTG Friday Forum was “Where the Sidewalks End: Racism in Urban Design and Crime Prevention.” Our follow up discussion is about community neglect, amenities, equity across neighborhoods, and gentrification.
Dorian Waller is exactly the right person for this conversation, Dorian earned his BA and MPA from the Evergreen State College, handles Government Relations for Ki...
2021-01-2353 minCrossing DivisionDOTG Friday Forum — Where the Sidewalks End: Racist Urban Design and Crime Prevention (January 22, 2021)Channel 253 is partnering with Downtown on the Go to make the 2021 Friday Forums available on podcast. The first Forum focuses on how urban design and crime prevention efforts can perpetuate racism.
The panel discusses the importance of community centered efforts when planning how to use and develop our built environment:
Nick Bayard, Assistant Chief Equity Officer for the City of Tacoma’s Office of Equity and Human Rights
Lauren Flemister, Community Planning Manager for the City of Seattle
Krystal Monteros, Vice Chair of the Tacoma Area Commission on Disabilities
Moderated by Tanisha Jumper, City of Ta...
2021-01-231h 03What Say U?Episode 32—Desperate TimesJoin the Sisters as they discuss the depth of “caucasity” that led to the INSURRECTION (the egregious attack on American democracy) at the nation’s capitol building.
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Antebellum Trailer
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2021-01-2159 minWhat Say U?Episode 31—Lead with Love in 2021Sisters Audrey and Melannie welcome the New Year with an inspirational discussion about the power of leading with LOVE as the way forward in 2021.
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2021-01-0659 minWhat Say U?Episode 30—Mommy knows bestThe sisters share the mic with their mother, Alean Cunningham. This inspirational discussion is centered in generational experiences, knowledge and the wisdom she passed on that is the foundation of shaping them into the women they are today.
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2020-12-221h 02Gimme the Mic Podcast2.3: Diane Tilstra—Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in NonprofitsIn her final episode looking at nonprofits in Tacoma, Diane Tilstra dives deep into how nonprofits need to bring about a sea-change in how they embrace Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI). Many organizations and companies are currently working to embed these concepts into their missions and visions. Diane’s guests talk about this transformation and how nonprofits are approaching it.
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Lawrence Garrett, 828 Consulting
Krista Perez, Founder of Tacoma Women of Color Collective and consultant
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2020-12-0846 minGimme the Mic Podcast2.2: Diane Tilstra—Funding Tacoma nonprofits during COVIDHow have Tacoma’s funding organizations changed as a result of COVID? Diane Tilstra sits down with some of the biggest funders in the area to learn more. Guests include:
Seth Kirby, Greater Tacoma Community Foundation
Holly Bamford Hunt, Bamford Foundation
Erika Tucci, Ben B Cheney Foundation
To support podcasts like this, please consider supporting Channel 253 with a membership. Just $4/month or $40/year.
And don’t forget, it’s Giving Tuesday! Many nonprofits in Tacoma could use your help today. Please consider support them during these difficult times.
2020-12-0137 minWhat Say U?Episode 29—Justice in the HouseSisters Audrey and Melannie are joined by the Honorable G. Helen Whitener, recently elected Justice to the Washington State Supreme Court. Justice Whitener shares details of her journey to the bench. She also gives listeners a deeper insight into the judicial branch of government and the thought process judges go through to make decisions.
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2020-11-3059 minGimme the Mic Podcast2.1: Diane Tilstra—Tacoma’s nonprofits during COVIDIn this series, host Diane Tilstra sits down with Tacoma-area nonprofits to talk about the pandemic, diversity, equity, inclusion, and more.
In the first episode, Diane talks to Miriam Barnett, CEO of the YWCA Pierce County, and Erin Guinup, Artistic and Executive Director of Tacoma Refugee Choir.
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2020-11-2539 minWhat Say U?Episode 28—God Don’t Like UglyAudrey and Melannie connect for the first time since the 2020 U.S. election results were revealed. The sisters analyze national and local races in their “keepin’ it real” style and offer a WORD of inspiration to the community about healing and the path forward to unity.
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2020-11-2045 minWhat Say U?Episode 27—America needs colon hydrotherapyHeightened racial tensions, toxic rhetoric, political tactics, protests, riots – whew! With all this sh_t going on in America right now, the Sisters satirically explore the metaphor of an internal flushing cleanse as the way towards reconciliation and healing of this nation.
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2020-10-2642 minWhat Say U?Episode 26—Black JusticeCarol Mitchell, the Black woman who worked in the Pierce County Executive Office C-suite and was fired chats it up with Melannie and Audrey about everything that led up to her termination and the latest developments. She also introduces her new project: The Black Justice Institute.
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2020-10-121h 03What Say U?Episode 25—Oppression is not Sustainable – duh!The Cunningham sisters broadly explore topics of systemic racism, oppression and other active efforts aimed at silencing and continued marginalization of Black people in America. They speak on ideas of empowerment and liberation.
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White House memo
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South Sound Anti-Racist Group
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Off the Record – a Channel 253 members only podcast
2020-09-2851 minWhat Say U?Episode 24—Good Trouble: Inside the Pierce County Executive Election RaceLarry Seaquist, the challenger to the incumbent in the Pierce County Executive 2020 election race answers Melannie and Audrey’s question – “Are you anti-racist?” As of the time of this taping, incumbent Bruce Dammeier and his campaign has not responded to the Sister’s request for an interview.
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Larry Seaquist for Pierce County Executive
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2020-09-141h 01What Say U?Episode 23—Change is Here: The Formation of a “New Day”So much has happened in America over the past few months that show a clear shift in what we knew as “America” as recently as the beginning of the year.
The Cunningham sisters talk about current events in the United States that are indicative of the change that is in the air. They also discuss the race for Pierce County Executive in the “253” and the need to pay attention.
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Pierce Co. employee fired 9 days after filing whistleblower complaint, asks for damages
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2020-08-311h 03Crossing DivisionLet’s Talk About that Primary: Crystal Fincher and Erik Hanberg on Races to Watch in 2020 (Aug. 5, 2020)Crystal Fincher, political consultant and principal at Fincher Consulting, and Erik Hanberg, Metro Parks Board Commissioner and Channel 253 Publisher, join host Evelyn Lopez to break down the primary results from the August 4 election, and discuss which races to watch in the 2020 general election.
There is a lot going on in our state and local area, and big issues facing the Legislature, County Council, and elected officials. Who will represent our interests? Listen to our take on the candidates, and remember that you can find more information about campaigns at www.pdc.wa.org.
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2020-08-061h 05What Say U?Episode 22—Black Liberation – This is How We RiseSisters Melannie and Audrey talk about the first step in changing the narrative of combating systemic racism. Everyone can participate…..or not.
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People’s Gathering
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2020-08-031h 02What Say U?Episode 21—Closing the Chapter (Last Call to White People)Listen as the sisters return from Racial Battle Fatigue to discuss their perspectives on the current racial climate and the rest, remainder and residue that goes with it.
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Southwest of Salem
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2020-07-211h 00What Say U?Episode 19—Unapologetically Black (Part II)The Pierce County Medical Examiner released a report this week that Manuel Ellis (a Black man) died on March 3 of respiratory arrest due to hypoxia caused by physical restraint. The persons causing the death of Manuel Ellis were Tacoma Police officers. The Cunningham Sisters continue the conversation about the value of Black Lives and the role white people play in creating the cure for the racism disease that is crippling our community and nation.
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Manuel Ellis dies by homicide
Tacoma Mayor wants officers in Manuel Ellis case fired
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2020-06-081h 05What Say U?Episode 18—Unapologetically BlackThe Cunningham Sisters draw the line in the sand with white people. You’re either anti-racist or you’re not. There is no middle ground. What Say U white people?
This episode centers on the police brutality and protests the US has witnessed over the last several days.
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White Accomplices
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Ask Yourself
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2020-06-011h 09Gimme the Mic PodcastTacoma Urban League: The State of Black TacomaTwo weeks ago, Tacoma Urban League hosted a virtual event on “The State of Black Tacoma” with a focus on COVID-19. We’ve captured the audio from the event and packaged it as a podcast. Enjoy!
Speakers include:
Mayor Victoria Woodards
Deputy Mayor Keith Blocker
Pierce County Auditor Julie Anderson
Superintendent Carla Santorno
Ryan Mello, Pierce Conservation District
Deborah Howell, Workforce Central
Jacques Colon, City of Tacoma Housing
Jamilia Sherls-Jones, Multicare Health System
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2020-05-212h 16What Say U?Episode 17—What Lies Beneath?Inspired by the 1999 film starring Michelle Pfeiffer and Harrison Ford titled: What Lies Beneath, the Cunningham Sisters engage in real talk over “what people show you as self is not always truth.”
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2020-05-1255 minCrossing DivisionLet’s Wrap Up on Age Friendly Cities: Downtown on the Go, Friday Forums 2020This year, Downtown on the Go partnered with Channel 253 to coordinate podcasts of the Friday Forums, and follow-up Crossing Division episodes to further explore the issues raised in the Forums. Go back to check out forums and follow-ups on Aging in Place from January, and Moving Forward in February. In March we were interrupted by the COVID 19 pandemic, but we wanted to wrap up the issues discussed at this year’s forums.
Tanisha Jumper, the City of Tacoma’s Director of Media and Communications, and Christina Clem, AARP Communications Specialist, join Evelyn Lopez to talk about Age Frie...
2020-05-0559 minWhat Say U?Episode 16—Dating over 50The sisters dig into some real talk about what it’s like to date when you’re over 50.
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2020-04-2755 minWe Art TacomaIngrid Barrentine—PhotographerIngrid Barrentine joins the podcast to talk about her photography. She got the photo-bug at 19 as a hobbyist and managed to create a professional career as a photographer. For Channel 253 this week, she...
2020-04-2300 minWe Art TacomaIngrid Barrentine—PhotographerIngrid Barrentine joins the podcast to talk about her photography. She got the photo-bug at 19 as a hobbyist and managed to create a professional career as a photographer. For Channel 253 this week, she...
2020-04-2327 minGimme the Mic Podcast1.4: Stella Keating—Importance of Inclusive SchoolsIn this episode, Stella is interviewed about the important role school counselors, supportive teachers, principals, and staff are for transgender and non-binary students. Melissa shares her professional experiences working with trans students. Together, they offer insight to inclusive practices. *Fun fact, Stella and her mom, Lisa, co-host the Queerest Book Club Ever.
Queerest Book Club Ever meets the second Monday of every month at King’s Books. This book club is geared towards queer and trans youth, aged 10-16, but is open to all. We read fiction (mostly Middle Reader to Teen), nonfiction on queer and trans iss...
2020-04-2344 minGimme the Mic Podcast1.3: Stella Keating—Allies In ActionStella interviews three Allies In Action Alum. Allies discuss how this program has shaped who they are as leaders, why providing younger students leadership opportunities is key youth engagement. *Fun fact, Stella is one of the OG Alum
Guest: Kylie, Taylor, and Tala
Allies In Action is an after school program provided by Lisa J. Keating through her nonprofit, My Purple Umbrella. Students explore, in depth, how and why to be Allies. Using experiential exercises, team building activities and art increase self-awareness, critical thinking and problem solving. Allies serve as stewards to the school and...
2020-04-2216 minGimme the Mic Podcast1.2: Stella Keating—Mayor’s Youth Commission of TacomaIn this episode, Stella talks with her fellow MYCT peers about leadership, the purpose of the commission, and the work being led by the commission. *Fun fact, the Mayor’s Youth Commission of Tacoma is the only known youth commission with the ability to create and set policy in the county. Go 253!
Guests: MYCT Chair Rosemary Sissel, MYCT Vice Chair Yasmin Aref, Education, Arts & Culture Vice Chair Emma Robison, MYCT Budget and Outreach Vice Chair Stella Keating.
The Mayor’s Youth Commission is a platform for youth in Tacoma to engage their local government and be a...
2020-04-2229 minGimme the Mic Podcast1.1: Stella Keating—PEEL (Peer Education Empowerment League)In this episode, Stella kicks off the series talking with Collin, Arizona, and Kellz about consent, youth led initiatives, the marginalization of queer youth, impact vs. intent, and the ways PEEL is empowering youth.
Guests: Collin Veenstra, Founder & Program Director, PEEL leaders Arizona and Kellz.
Intergenerational Community Organizing: Youth-Led, Adult Staff and & Volunteer Supported
As a volunteer-run organization with an anti-oppression framework, PEEL works differently than a lot of traditional youth programs.
Our staff team are 100% volunteer and include adult community members who serve the Tacoma area as teachers, youth advocates...
2020-04-2241 minWhat Say U?Episode 15—The Peace Queen returns from AfricaThe sisters talk about Melannie’s visit to Africa.
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2020-04-1541 minWhat Say U?Episode 14—The coronavirus, centeredness, and working from homeThe sisters talk about what all of us are talking about—the coronavirus and its effects on our community and our lives.
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2020-04-0750 minWhat Say U?Episode 13—Be The OtherMelannie discusses with Audrey her upcoming trip to the African continent and what the experience is like living while Black outside of America.
www.africabound2020.com
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2020-03-1657 minCrossing DivisionLet’s Talk About: Post-Presidential Primary Podcast Plus Pandemic!Campaign consultant/political strategist Crystal Fincher and local elected official/Channel 253 publisher Erik Hanberg join host Evelyn Lopez to break down the 2020 Washington Presidential Primary results:
The importance of key demographic voting blocks,
Whether these primary results foreshadow aspects of our state and local races this year,
Speculation about VP options, and
Can a woman ever successfully run for President?
Plus the latest on pandemic news and what we should all be doing to get through this health crisis.
Let us know what you think! And !look for Crystal’s political radio show and podcast Hac...
2020-03-121h 01What Say U?Episode 12—Why U Do That?Melannie and Audrey unpack Gail King’s interview with Lisa Leslie about Kobe Bryant and the outrage that ensued plus other instances of human pollution.
Lisa Leslie on Kobe Bryant
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2020-03-021h 02Crossing DivisionDowntown on the Go Friday Forum: Moving Into the Future (Feb. 24, 2020)Channel 253 is partnering with Downtown on the Go as a media sponsor of DOTG’s Friday Forums. We think that the topic is a good fit with our Crossing Division podcasts, so we will record the Friday Forum and then record an episode of Crossing Division that follows up or expands on the issues in the Forum.
For February 2020 the Friday Forum topic was Moving Into the Future. Learn about the transportation and access needs of our aging residents, how well-maintained sidewalks and parking near destinations help make Tacoma navigable for everyone. You will also learn about Ta...
2020-02-271h 00What Say U?Episode 11—Where is the Love?The sisters dig into an essential question: where is the love?
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2020-02-1759 minWhat Say U?Episode 10—Peace QueenLast month, the sisters were joined by the filmmakers behind the Peace Queen documentary for a special showing of the half-hour film at the Grand Cinema.
This podcast is the recorded discussion after the film and includes some excerpts of the film for context. Enjoy!
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2020-02-0348 minWhat Say U?Episode 8—Real Talk With A Tween: Insight into Gen ZThe sisters chat with Jalean Peek, Melannie’s granddaughter and Audrey’s great niece who is 12 years old. They discuss a variety of topics on how a tween navigates the world.
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Southern Anti-Racist Project
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2019-12-301h 08What Say U?Episode 7: The Mashup EpisodeThe sisters dive into a bunch of topics, including the Peace Queen Documentary to be broadcast on KTBC, the black beauty shop experience, potluck etiquette, Kwanza/Christmas, and Census 2020.
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253 Peace Queen
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2019-12-161h 02What Say U?Episode 6: The N WordWho gets to say the N Word? The sisters discuss.
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2019-12-021h 02What Say U?Episode 5: The Nobel Peace PrizeThe sisters talk about the Tacoma Peace Prize and the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Tacoma Peace Queen goes to the Nobel Peace Prize Ceremony
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2019-11-1848 minWhat Say U?Episode 4: Living While BlackThe sisters discuss situations where white people call the police on black people and offer recommendations on how the situation can be avoided.
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2019-11-051h 09What Say U?Episode 3: Seeking JOY at workAudrey and Melannie Denise Cunningham give some real talk on dealing with toxic co-workers.
Real sisters, real talk.
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2019-09-2044 minWhat Say U?Episode 2Audrey and Melannie Cunningham reflect on the Netflix Mini Series “When They See Us.”
Real sisters, real talk.
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2019-08-3037 minWhat Say U?Episode 1Check out the new podcast from Melannie Denise Cunningham and Audrey Cunningham.
Real sisters, real talk.
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2019-08-0452 minWhat Say U?Episode 0Check out the new podcast from Melannie Denise Cunningham and Audrey Cunningham.
Real sisters, real talk.
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2019-08-0351 minTaco-ManTaquería El Antojo—Episode 11Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! It’s … TACO-MAN. Taco-Man’s mission: to review the tacos of Tacoma. It’s a podcast by Taco-Man for all Tacomans* to enjoy. Each episode, he reviews a different Tacoma taco with a different trusty sidekick.
We’re at El Antojo.
Host: Taco-Man
Taco-Man is not the superhero we need. But he’s the superhero we deserve. And, we can feel that hometown pride because he’s a native Tacoman (obvs).
This Episode’s Trusty Sidekick
Erik Hanberg, host of the We Art Tacoma podcas...
2019-06-1820 minTaco-ManBack to Ta’ Carbon—Episode 10Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! It’s … TACO-MAN. Taco-Man’s mission: to review the tacos of Tacoma. It’s a podcast by Taco-Man for all Tacomans* to enjoy. Each episode, he reviews a different Tacoma taco with a different trusty sidekick.
We’re back at Ta’ Carbon for some margaritas and guacamole made at the table. (Seriously, this place was great.)
Host: Taco-Man
Taco-Man is not the superhero we need. But he’s the superhero we deserve. And, we can feel that hometown pride because he’s a native Tacoman (obvs).
Thi...
2019-04-2315 minTaco-ManTa’ Carbon—Episode 9Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! It’s … TACO-MAN. Taco-Man’s mission: to review the tacos of Tacoma. It’s a podcast by Taco-Man for all Tacomans* to enjoy. Each episode, he reviews a different Tacoma taco with a different trusty sidekick.
Host: Taco-Man
Taco-Man is not the superhero we need. But he’s the superhero we deserve. And, we can feel that hometown pride because he’s a native Tacoman (obvs).
This Episode’s Trusty Sidekick
Jeremiah Oshan, columnist and podcaster at Sounder at Heart
Their Taco Location
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2019-03-0619 minTaco-ManBack to El Barracho—Episode 9Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! It’s … TACO-MAN. Taco-Man’s mission: to review the tacos of Tacoma. It’s a podcast by Taco-Man for all Tacomans* to enjoy. Each episode, he reviews a different Tacoma taco with a different trusty sidekick.
This episode is a little different, though. Taco-Man goes back to El Borracho with trusty sidekick Annie to review their vegan tacos. Vegan tacos are hard to find in Tacoma! Hear what Annie and Taco-Man think of them (plus a few groan-worthy jokes while they wait for their order).
Host: Taco-Man
2018-07-2513 minTaco-ManTaqueria El Rinconsito—Episode 8Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! It’s … TACO-MAN. Taco-Man’s mission: to review the tacos of Tacoma. It’s a podcast by Taco-Man for all Tacomans* to enjoy. Each episode, he reviews a different Tacoma taco with a different trusty sidekick.
Host: Taco-Man
Taco-Man is not the superhero we need. But he’s the superhero we deserve. And, we can feel that hometown pride because he’s a native Tacoman (obvs).
This Episode’s Trusty Sidekick
Justin Camarata, Co-host of Crossing Division and Tacoma City Councilmember
Their Taco Location
2018-06-2712 minTaco-ManLa Perla del Mar—Episode 5Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! It’s … TACO-MAN. Taco-Man’s mission: to review the tacos of Tacoma. It’s a podcast by Taco-Man for all Tacomans* to enjoy. Each episode, he reviews a different Tacoma taco with a different trusty sidekick.
Host: Taco-Man
Taco-Man is not the superhero we need. But he’s the superhero we deserve. And, we can feel that hometown pride because he’s a native Tacoman (obvs).
This Episode’s Trusty Sidekick
Doug Mackey, Co-Founder, Producer, Composer, Sound Engineer of Channel 253
Their Taco Location
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2017-11-2914 minTaco-ManTres Hermanos—Episode 4Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! It’s … TACO-MAN. Taco-Man’s mission: to review the tacos of Tacoma. It’s a podcast by Taco-Man for all Tacomans* to enjoy. Each episode, he reviews a different Tacoma taco with a different trusty sidekick.
Host: Taco-Man
Taco-Man is not the superhero we need. But he’s the superhero we deserve. And, we can feel that hometown pride because he’s a native Tacoman (obvs).
This Episode’s Trusty Sidekicks
Mary Holste (of the Miss Fisher Philes and the Miss Adventure podcasts) and Erik Hanberg (P...
2017-11-1515 min