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A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackWhen Hell is an Attack on Democracy – Episode 116
In this podcast, Charlie draws from DBT in search of ways to understand the current assault on democracy in the United States, and to become more effective at taking care of oneself and acting more effectively.
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2025-04-2056 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackAdapting DBT Skills When Working with Autistic Individuals – Episode 115
In this episode, the fourth in a series on autism and DBT, Charlie is again joined by Amara Brooke and Rachel Kraus, two DBT therapists who are autistic and who have subspecialties in working with autistic clients. Our focus here is entirely on the application and adaptation of DBT skills in the work with autistic individuals. Which skills work well as they are? Which skills require adaptation in order to work well with this population? Which skills can actually make things worse if you aren’t mindful of autistic features? Please rate, review, and write to me with comments and qu...2023-04-261h 19A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackAdapting DBT Skills When Working with Autistic Individuals – Episode 115
In this episode, the fourth in a series on autism and DBT, Charlie is again joined by Amara Brooke and Rachel Kraus, two DBT therapists who are autistic and who have subspecialties in working with autistic clients. Our focus here is entirely on the application and adaptation of DBT skills in the work with autistic individuals. Which skills work well as they are? Which skills require adaptation in order to work well with this population? Which skills can actually make things worse if you aren’t mindful of autistic features? Please rate, review, and write to me with comments and qu...2023-04-261h 19A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackChallenging, Changing Course, Reframing. Irreverence in Therapy and Life – Episode 114
In this episode, Charlie explains, and gives lots of examples of, being irreverent in therapy. What is the essence? What is the point? Why is it important to do? Why is it hard to do? What are the forms irreverence can take? What are some tips for becoming irreverent?
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2023-04-061h 24A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackChallenging, Changing Course, Reframing. Irreverence in Therapy and Life – Episode 114
In this episode, Charlie explains, and gives lots of examples of, being irreverent in therapy. What is the essence? What is the point? Why is it important to do? Why is it hard to do? What are the forms irreverence can take? What are some tips for becoming irreverent?
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2023-04-061h 24A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackTop Ten Tips for Adapting DBT to Autistic Clients – Episode 113
Charlie moderates a discussion between Amara Brook and Rachel Kraus, both of whom are DBT-informed therapists with subspecialties treating autistic and ADHD individuals, as they come of with ten things to consider when adapting DBT to autism.
In the next episode after this one, the same guests will specifically address how to modify DBT skills in working with autistic clients.
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2023-03-301h 13A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackTop Ten Tips for Adapting DBT to Autistic Clients – Episode 113
Charlie moderates a discussion between Amara Brook and Rachel Kraus, both of whom are DBT-informed therapists with subspecialties treating autistic and ADHD individuals, as they come of with ten things to consider when adapting DBT to autism.
In the next episode after this one, the same guests will specifically address how to modify DBT skills in working with autistic clients.
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2023-03-301h 13A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDo we use DBT to target autism? No – Episode 112
Charlie talks further with Amara Brook about autism, neurodiversity, and DBT: how can DBT be adapted, not to target autism itself, but to help autistic folks succeed at their own life-worth-living goals; how can we apply DBT’s bio-social theory in understanding and treating autistic individuals; and what are the barriers for autistic individuals in becoming DBT therapists?
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2023-03-241h 15A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDo we use DBT to target autism? No – Episode 112
Charlie talks further with Amara Brook about autism, neurodiversity, and DBT: how can DBT be adapted, not to target autism itself, but to help autistic folks succeed at their own life-worth-living goals; how can we apply DBT’s bio-social theory in understanding and treating autistic individuals; and what are the barriers for autistic individuals in becoming DBT therapists?
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2023-03-241h 15A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackAutism, Neurodiversity and DBT – Episode 111
It seems that the world is paying more and more attention to autism in particular and neurodiversity in general.
Beginning with this episode, Charlie talks with Amara Brooke, Ph.D., about autism, neurodiversity, and ways of adapting DBT to help an autistic individual reach their life-worth living goals. Tune in for this three-episode special conversation, which will eventually lead to ten tips for adapting DBT therapy with autistic people, and then on to what is meant by the Universal Design for Learning.
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2023-03-161h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackWise Mind – Episode 110Charlie provides an in-depth discussion of WISE MIND as used in DBT. What is it, why is it so valuable, what are perspectives on it, what are its features, how do you access it and use it? He then discusses a painful example from his own life when he needed wise mind but failed to access it.2023-03-091h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackWise Mind – Episode 110
Charlie provides an in-depth discussion of WISE MIND as used in DBT. What is it, why is it so valuable, what are perspectives on it, what are its features, how do you access it and use it? He then discusses a painful example from his own life when he needed wise mind but failed to access it.
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A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackGuaranteed Success, By Design - Episode 108Be your best by inspiring the best in others. Join Nicole and Charlie as they tap into Cem Eren’s two-decades of wisdom training elite NBA athletes, boxers, bodybuilders, beauty contestants, and ordinary humans of all ages. In examples that apply to therapy and coaching, Cem shares how he meets his clients every single day with freshness, compassion, dignity, and nonjudgmental presence, helping them connect with their strengths while building toward their goals.Learn how to be your best by inspiring the best in others as Nicole and Charlie tap into Cem Eren’s two-decades of wisdom trai...2022-11-2446 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackGuaranteed Success, By Design - Episode 108Be your best by inspiring the best in others. Join Nicole and Charlie as they tap into Cem Eren’s two-decades of wisdom training elite NBA athletes, boxers, bodybuilders, beauty contestants, and ordinary humans of all ages. In examples that apply to therapy and coaching, Cem shares how he meets his clients every single day with freshness, compassion, dignity, and nonjudgmental presence, helping them connect with their strengths while building toward their goals.Learn how to be your best by inspiring the best in others as Nicole and Charlie tap into Cem Eren’s two-decades of wisdom trai...2022-11-2446 min
A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackGuaranteed Success, By Design – Episode 108
> In part 2 of the conversation with world class trainer Cem Eren, join Charlie and Nicole and enter the Lion’s Den, a practice environment thoughtfully constructed to support our training journey from the moment we step through the door until the moment we step out of it. As we tour the space, we hear how unconditional acceptance underlies Cem’s strategy for facilitating positive change, and how his intuitive application of dialectics translates to clients that consistently hit huge goals and make extraordinary transformations.
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A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackSkillful Mind Training, Embodied - Episode 107Learn how to be your best by inspiring the best in others as Nicole and Charlie tap into Cem Eren's two-decades of wisdom training elite NBA athletes, boxers, bodybuilders, beauty contestants, and ordinary humans of all ages. In examples that apply to therapy and coaching, Cem shares how he meets his clients every single day with freshness, compassion, dignity, and nonjudgmental presence, helping them connect with their strengths while building toward their goals. In part one of a two-part conversation, Charlie and Nicole seek to discover the secret to world class trainer, Cem Eren's two decade career...2022-11-1747 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackSkillful Mind Training, Embodied - Episode 107Learn how to be your best by inspiring the best in others as Nicole and Charlie tap into Cem Eren's two-decades of wisdom training elite NBA athletes, boxers, bodybuilders, beauty contestants, and ordinary humans of all ages. In examples that apply to therapy and coaching, Cem shares how he meets his clients every single day with freshness, compassion, dignity, and nonjudgmental presence, helping them connect with their strengths while building toward their goals. In part one of a two-part conversation, Charlie and Nicole seek to discover the secret to world class trainer, Cem Eren's two decade career...2022-11-1747 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackSkillful Mind Training, Embodied – Episode 107
“In this episode, Nicole and Charlie tap into the wisdom that Cem Eren has gained from two decades of training elite NBA athletes, boxers, bodybuilders, beauty contestants, and ordinary humans of all ages. In examples that extend to therapy and coaching, Cem shares how he meets his clients every single day with freshness, compassion, dignity, and nonjudgmental presence, helping them connect with their strengths while building toward their goals.
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2022-11-1747 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackSkillful Mind Training, Embodied – Episode 107"In this episode, Nicole and Charlie tap into the wisdom that Cem Eren has gained from two decades of training elite NBA athletes, boxers, bodybuilders, beauty contestants, and ordinary humans of all ages. In examples that extend to therapy and coaching, Cem shares how he meets his clients every single day with freshness, compassion, dignity, and nonjudgmental presence, helping them connect with their strengths while building toward their goals.2022-11-1747 min
A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackIdentity Grammar - Episode 106In this episode Charlie and Nic explore the ways we find meaning through expressing identity, how we hold space for inner contradictions, and why self definition is a paradox, ripe for dialectical intervention.2022-11-171h 08A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackIdentity Grammar - Episode 106In this episode Charlie and Nic explore the ways we find meaning through expressing identity, how we hold space for inner contradictions, and why self definition is a paradox, ripe for dialectical intervention.2022-11-171h 08A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackIdentity Grammar – Episode 106
What shapes the syntax of Self? How does context inform our inner lexicons? Are we more than the sum of all our actions?
In this episode Charlie and Nic explore the ways we find meaning through expressing identity, how we hold space for inner contradictions, and why self definition is a paradox, ripe for dialectical intervention.
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2022-11-101h 08A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackWho IS that Woman?! – Episode 104
Since Nicole joined Charlie as co-host, several long-time listeners have asked Charlie, Who IS that woman?! It’s actually a great question and the answer is far from simple. In this podcast, Charlie and Nicole explore their own self-narratives and expand into a larger conversation about how we all see ourselves, how we define ourselves, how we represent ourselves, how we are seen by others, and how that affects us.
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2022-10-281h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and Back5 Years, 100 Episodes, 7 Lessons for Surviving Hell – Episode 101
In this episode, Charlie reflects on 100 episodes spent exploring human suffering. He synthesizes wisdom from interviews including coping with natural disaster, loss of a child, suicide, and cancer, arriving at seven overarching guidelines for survival.
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A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDeath by Suicide of a Charismatic Young Man in a Loving Family (part 2) – Episode 97In this episode (part 2), Charlie and Nicole speak with Beth about her son Ross who ended his life two years ago. We hear about Beth, the family, and Ross leading up to his death. In future episodes we learn how Beth and other family members have coped with the tragic loss.
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A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDeath by Suicide of a Charismatic Young Man in a Loving Family – Episode 96In this episode, Charlie and Nicole speak with Beth about her son Ross who ended his life two years ago. We hear about Beth, the family, and Ross leading up to his death. In future episodes we learn how Beth and other family members have coped with the tragic loss.
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View Gallery2022-08-311h 08A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackPrinciples in Practice – The Narcissist in DBT Therapy- Episode 95
In this episode, Charlie and Nicole role play and then discuss a therapy session in which Charlie patiently sifts through the layers of defensive grandiosity and wounded pride that provoked his Narcissistic patient Taylor (played by Nicole) into a violent outburst at a recent wedding.
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2022-08-201h 02A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackNarcissistic Behavior Patterns Through a DBT Lens – Episode 94
In this podcast, Charlie and Nicole contrast DBT versus psychodynamic models for narcissistic patients. Charlie demonstrates how to talk with these patients about the diagnosis with compassion and clarity. Charlie demonstrates how to talk with these patients about the diagnosis with clarity and compassion, using a DBT model.
2022-08-121h 07A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackSkillful Coping with Cancer-Interview 2 with Andrea Gold – Episode 93
This is the second installment of Charlie’s interview with Andrea Gold, PhD, DBT expert, faculty member of Brown University Department of Psychiatry. See podcast #87 for the first hour. Andrea was diagnosed with Breast Cancer in January of this year and is here reporting on how she has coped for the past six months with Cancer and its treatments, including managing her friendships and her family life with her husband and two young children. She is an inspiring human being and a master of using DBT skills to cope with her emotions and the challenges she faces.
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T-TalkNotes on healing - Tea with Dr. Charlie SwensonIs it difficult for you as a therapist to block out time to nourish yourself, spend time with others, or enjoy life? You might find it hard to turn down the subsequent referral when you know how much people struggle. If that's the case for you, keep listening to today's episode as Dr. Charlie Swenson joins me.
Top reasons to listen to the entire episode:
How healing is all about timing.
How taking small steps is a way to solve problems.
What are injury metaphors and burnout about?
Full Show...2022-08-0146 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackNo Narcissist is an Island – Episode 92
In episode 3 of the series on Narcissism Charlie and Nicole illustrate the relational nature of Narcissism. Through role play and discussion, listeners hear an intimate portrait of complex interpersonal dynamics playing out between the Narcissist and his counterpart, fueling and reinforcing Narcissistic behavior and belief.
Stay tuned for the final episode in the series where Charlie and Nicole share practical tools for preserving dignity and self esteem when interacting with a Narcissist.
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2022-07-291h 04A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackNarcissism: It’s More Nuanced Then You Think – Episode 91
In this episode, the second in our series on narcissism, Charlie and Nicole dissect clinical models and cultural assumptions to illuminate the nature of narcissistic behavior, distinguishing between adaptive traits and the destructive conduct that may meet the criteria for a Narcissistic Personality Disorder diagnosis.
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2022-07-221h 04A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackNarcissism and Narcissistic Personality – Episode 90
In this podcast, Charlie and Nicole talk about narcissism, how it plays a part in all of our lives, how there is a range from healthy to pathological, and how it can present in two different types, the grandiose and/or the vulnerable types. This will be the first of three or four podcasts on this topic.
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2022-07-141h 05A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackI Dont Want to Keep the Baby, Can My Partner Understand – Episode 89
In this episode, Charlie and Nicole role play a therapy session in which the client plans to terminate her pregnancy. DBT skills help her decide if, and how, she’ll share her plans with her partner who is very excited about having the child.
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2022-07-071h 04A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackTo Hell and Back with Charlie Swenson is Back2022-06-1503 min
What You're Craving with Molly CarmelWhy Labels Don’t Tell the Whole Story and What To Do About Dead-End Solutions with Dr. Charlie SwensonIn this episode, I have a conversation with my teacher and one of the leading therapist in the field of Dialectical Behavior Therapy, Dr. Charlie Swenson. Charlie gives us the run-down on how to sit with uncomfortable feelings and why radical acceptance is a skill we all terribly need. He discusses why perfectionism doesn’t work, our profound need for connection to help us with cravings.. and life, and why validation is so important. Hear it from *the* expert himself - this is a must-listen! Dr. Charlie Swenson, Associate Professor of Psychiatry, attended Harvard College and Yale Med...2021-11-1743 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackMindfulness Amidst Mindlessness (Part 2) – Episode 762020-07-031h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackMindfulness Amidst Mindlessness – Episode 752020-06-1958 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackLessons from Pandemic Living – Episode 742020-05-231h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackChanging Repetitive Painful Emotions – Episode 732020-05-1057 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackItaly, the US, the pandemic and DBT (part 2 of 2) – Episode 722020-04-031h 24A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackItaly, the US, the pandemic and DBT – Episode 712020-03-282h 02A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDBT in the Era of Trump (3 of 4) – episode 702020-03-081h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDBT in the Era of Trump (2 of 4) – episode 692020-03-021h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDBT in the Era of Trump (1 of 4) – episode 682020-02-2556 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackLiving with Cancer (4 of 4) – Episode 672020-02-091h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackLiving with Cancer (3 of 3) – Episode 662020-02-0259 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackLiving with Cancer (2 of 3) – Episode 652020-01-261h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackLiving with Cancer (1 of 4) – Episode 642020-01-181h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackWhat’s the point? (Part 3) – Episode 632020-01-111h 02A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackWhat’s the point? (Part 2) – Episode 622019-12-241h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackTop 10 DBT skills-based antidotes for the holiday season – Episode 612019-12-1559 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackWhat’s the point? – Episode 602019-12-1154 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackLife After Death: Lessons from the Life of Perry Hoffman – Episode 592019-11-0956 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDealing with the read end experience of having a spouse or partner with a serious mental illness – Episode 582019-11-0356 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackNo Dead Ends – The Step by Step Path Out of a Dead End -Episode 572019-10-2059 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackHow To Accept Reality and Tolerate Distress – Episode 562019-07-2757 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackJudging, Judgment, Judgmental, and Non-Judgmental – Episode 552019-07-131h 02A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackMore mindfulness skills in DBT for coping with hell – Episode 542019-06-091h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackMindfulness Skills: the power of simply observing reality – Episode 532019-05-2339 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackMindfulness as taught within DBT – Episode 522019-05-1457 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackMindfulness in the service of reducing suffering – Episode 512019-05-0359 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackTo Hell and Back – The Zoom Version (April 18, 2019) – Episode 502019-04-2358 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackGetting Old Sucks – Acceptance Helps – Episode 492019-04-161h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and Back10 Reasons the DBT Skills Training Fails, and Solutions – Episode 482019-03-281h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackIngredients in the recipe for recovery from Hell – Episode 472019-03-211h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackA conversation with Andrea Rosenhaft (Part 3 of 3) – Episode 462019-03-181h 04A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackA conversation with Andrea Rosenhaft (Part 2 of 3) – Episode 452019-03-061h 02A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackA conversation with Andrea Rosenhaft (Part 1 of 3) – Episode 442019-02-271h 04A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackHow to Use Dialectics to Deal with Relationships – Episode 432019-02-2200 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackRelationship Skills in DBT (part 3 of 3) – Episode 422019-02-081h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackRelationship Skills in DBT (part 2 of 3) – Episode 412019-02-011h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackRelationship Skills in DBT (part 1 of 3) – Episode 402019-01-2459 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackThe Nature of Emotions and Emotion Regulation (Part 5 of 5) – Episode 392019-01-071h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackCoping with Holiday Hell: Ten DBT- based Antidotes – Episode 382018-12-2358 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackThe Nature of Emotions and Emotion Regulation (Part 4 of 5) – Episode 372018-12-1558 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackThe Nature of Emotions and Emotion Regulation (Part 3 of 5) – Episode 362018-12-0459 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackThe Nature of Emotions and Emotion Regulation (Part 2 of 5) – Episode 352018-11-241h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackThe Nature of Emotions and Emotion Regulation (Part 1 of 5) – Episode 342018-11-0258 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDealing with the Hell of Addictions (Part 2 of 2) – Episode 332018-10-181h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDealing with the Hell of Addictions (Part 1 of 2) – Episode 322018-10-1159 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackEntitlement, Victimization, and Emotion Regulation – Episode 312018-10-0152 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDBT Skills for All (6 of 6) – Episode 302018-09-221h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDBT Skills for All (5 of 6) – Episode 292018-09-1957 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDBT Skills for All (4 of 6) – Episode 282018-09-071h 02A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDBT Skills for All (3 of 6) – Episode 272018-09-0155 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDBT Skills for All (2 of 6) – Episode 262018-08-0359 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackDBT Skills for All (1 of 6) – Episode 252018-07-271h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackRadical Acceptance – Episode 242018-07-2458 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackRadical Acceptance (1 of 2) – Episode 232018-06-301h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackNo Dead Ends – Charlie Says Goodbye to Cindy – Episode 222018-06-2347 mincharlie | Charlie SwensonNo Dead Ends – Charlie Says Goodbye to Cindy – Episode 222018-06-2347 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackSurviving the Death of a Child (3 of 3) – Episode 212018-06-171h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackSurviving the Death of a Child (2 of 3) – Episode 202018-06-101h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackSurviving the Death of a Child ( 1 of 3) – Episode 192018-06-011h 00A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackThe DBT Prolonged Exposure (DBT PE) protocol – A conversation with Melanie Harned PhD (part 3 of 3) – Episode 182018-05-181h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackThe DBT Prolonged Exposure (DBT PE) protocol – A conversation with Melanie Harned PhD (part 2 of 3) – Episode 172018-05-141h 01A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackThe DBT Prolonged Exposure (DBT PE) protocol – A conversation with Melanie Harned PhD (part 1 of 3) – Episode 162018-05-0359 minA Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and BackThe Dialectical Perspective – Episode 152018-04-241h 01charlie | Charlie SwensonTools for Getting back from Hell – Episode 9In this podcast, Charlie returns to complete his discussion over several podcasts about using DBT’s core mindfulness skills for surviving hell and returning from it.2018-02-161h 00