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Tech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 2 E4: Gene SpaffordRecording date: Apr 17, 2023
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“They’re statistical models based on language corpuses and the output of these things can be shown in some cases to be stunningly incorrect.” - Gene Spafford
Gene opens with a comment about the “tendency of the industry to jump on hot trends”, and that sets the scene for much of the discussion, which goes on to touch blockchain, and of course ‘AI’.
We touch upon topics where Gene and his co-authors go into more deta...2023-10-0200 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 2 E3: Jamie DobsonRecording date: Apr 1, 2022
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“When you frame technical debt through the lens of strategy, it actually starts to make a lot more sense” - Jamie Dobson
With intros over we ask Jamie about his experience with cloud native transformation. He sees many companies who have made a mess of their cloud migration. They have created a lot of technical debt, which can make it difficult to innovate and can lead to security problems.
Jamie says that the best...2023-03-2100 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 2 E2: Andy EllisRecording date: Feb 14, 2022
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“Stop calling it technical debt” - Andy Ellis
With intros over, Nick asks Andy about metrics, and Andy immediately responds by saying “stop calling it technical debt”. Executives have an understanding of ‘debt’, and it’s not a bad word for them, it’s what fuels everything around them. This leads into discussion of when’s the right time to ship software. Something unfinished might feel too early, but how else do you get feedback from users?
2023-02-1300 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 2 E1: Krysztof (Chris) Daniel on Strategy and Wardley MapsRecording date: Jan 24, 2022
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“When they have figured out what this game was really about, they figured out what should be the response” - Krysztof (Chris) Daniel
After intros we start by asking Chris why he got the @wardleymaps Twitter handle, and he explains that he was doing an entrepreneurship course that got him interested in Wardley mapping; and from that he went on to develop an online tool to help people make maps. We then chat a little abou...2023-01-1500 min
The Tech Debt Burndown PodcastS2E1 Krzysztof "Chris" DanielKrzysztof - Chris - Daniel talks to Nick and Chris about Wardley Mapping and better corporate strategies.2023-01-0941 minThe Tech Debt Burndown PodcastS1 E12 - Yosef Lehrman on the Executive OrderIn the Season 1 Finale, Yosef Lehrman talks to Nick and Chris about the Executive Order on Improving the Nation’s Cybersecurity.2021-08-0832 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 1 E12: Yosef Lehrman on the Executive OrderRecording date: Jun 14, 2021
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“The executive order puts on paper for the very first time, a mechanism for the federal government at least to outline how they plan on shoring up their cybersecurity and more importantly, a framework that others whether it’s commercial entities or state, local, tribal, territorial governments could follow and build upon.” - Yosef Lehrman
Yosef first introduces himself, and his role as Deputy Commissioner of Information Security and Chief Information Security Officer at New York C...2021-08-0700 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 1 E11: Allan Friedman and SBOMsRecording date: Jun 8, 2021
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“Having a list of ingredients doesn’t mean that you’ll eat healthy, but it’s very difficult to eat healthy if you don’t have that” - Allan Friedman
After introducing himself, and his role at the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), Allan gives an overview of Software Bill of Materials (SBOM) using a ‘list of ingredients’ analogy.
The efforts around SBOM have been underway since 2018, and there was initially pushback from the softwar...2021-06-2000 minThe Tech Debt Burndown PodcastS1E11- Allan Friedman and SBOMsAllan Friedman of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has long been one of the world's leading proponents of Software Bill of Materials, or SBOM. With the President's Executive Order on Improving the Nation’s Cybersecurity, SBOM has begun to receive the wider attention it deserves, and Allan joins Chris and Nick to discuss SBOM and how it can help with tech debt burndown.2021-06-2027 minThe Tech Debt Burndown PodcastS1 E10 - Eoin Woods on Identifying Tech DebtEoin Woods has developed quite a bit of software, and created and dealt with quite a lot of technical debt. He is CTO at Endava, and co-author of two software architecture books. On the Tech Debt Burndown he joins Chris and Nick to talk about his role in the International Conference on Technical Debt and some of the research highlighted in the virtual 2021 edition of that conference, as well as his own personal experiences in the field.2021-06-1325 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 1 E10: Eoin WoodsRecording date: May 25, 2021
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“There’s sometimes an assumption that people in the business of building systems all the time implicitly understand tech debt. I think they definitely don’t.” - Eoin Woods
After intros we ask Eoin about the International Conference on Technical Debt, which recently had its 4th annual event. Eoin was a keynote speaker at the first conference, and has stayed involved since.
Eoin goes on to explain that the academic community have found ways to...2021-06-1225 minThe Tech Debt Burndown PodcastEpisode 9 - Observability With Charity MajorsCharity Majors joins Nick and Chris to discuss the difference between observability and metrics, some great insights into good debt (like college loans) versus bad debt (like charging stuff we want on a credit card), and thoughts on efficiency.2021-06-0631 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 1 E9: Charity MajorsRecording date: May 19, 2021
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“If you want to do something better it’s best you name it, and try to understand it, not sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist.” - Charity
“Where is the time going? Are your people spending 80 percent of their time on crap that doesn’t move the business forward? Crap that is toil, that is miserable, that should be automated away? Or are they spending 80 percent of their time on stuff where...2021-05-3000 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastBreak From Burndown: The Memorial Day Spring Bank Holiday BreakRecording date: May 29, 2021
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“They were told observability would solve their problems, but it didn’t, so what the @$^#?” - Charity Majors
It’s Memorial Day weekend in the US and Spring Bank Holiday in the UK, so Chris and I have decided to fire up the grills and get away from it all and enjoy the weekend. So we took a break this week. Coming up in the next few weeks we have conversations about ops, toil, build times an...2021-05-2900 minThe Tech Debt Burndown PodcastEpisode 8: The Six Ways with Olivier JacquesOn this episode, Chris and Nick are joined by Olivier Jacques, DevOps transformation principal at DXC Technology, who discusses his article, Six Strategies to Set Time Aside to Improve. The six approaches capture some very insightful observations into technical debt burndown.2021-05-2334 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 1 E8: The Six WaysRecording date: May 17, 2021
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“Everybody wants to reduce tech debt, but nobody wants to pay for it.” - Olivier
Nick and Chris are joined by Olivier Jacques, a Distinguished Technologist at DXC and CTO in DXC’s application services department in France. Recently, Jacques wrote 6 Strategies to Set Time Aside to Improve, an article that spells out six ways to approach technical debt reduction.
Olivier thinks that policy debt, technical debt, security, debt, infrastructure, debt, and other debt t...2021-05-2300 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 1 E7: Enabling and RegulatingWhat Do Enabling-Teams Look Like, and Can We Avoid Tech Debt in the Medical Device Industry?
Recording date: May 3 and 8, 2021
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‘There were monkeys that were nesting in the satellite dish.’ - Kenn
In a private Twitter chat, Nick and Kenn White, who leads applied encryption engineering in MongoDB, were discussing tech debt burndown, and Kenn mentioned that Mongo maintains an entire team to remove distractions and handle barriers to engineer happiness. So this episode, Kenn joins Chri...2021-05-1500 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 1 E6: The FlowWhat Does Your Pipeline Look Like?
Recording date: May 1, 2021
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‘People often escape from a role before decisions they have made have a chance to catch up to them.’ - Chris
Let’s talk about pipeline. Lots of things get improved by building continuous delivery pipelines and then going back to them and iteratively making improvements. But Chris thinks that pipelines themselves can be a place where we accrue tech debt, even at the entry point to those...2021-05-0800 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 1 E5: The MetricsHow Do You Measure Tech Debt? What Are The Metrics That Work?
Recording date: March, 2021
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‘I think it’s really less about wasted time, and more about getting into flow state: is your tech debt preventing flow from happening?’ - Chris
How do you measure technical debt? What are the metrics you use?
Chris hasn’t found the magic formula. Over the past few years Chris has been acutely aware of the quote from Accelera...2021-05-0200 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Series 1 E4: Wendy Nather on What Works in SecurityWhat Works in Security? The Cisco Security Outcomes Study
Recording date: December, 2020
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Chris and Nick welcome their old friend Wendy Nather, Head of Advisory CISOs at Duo Security (now Cisco), to the podcast to discuss her work on the Cisco Security Outcomes Study. Now, technical debt isn’t only about security, but they’re related - and one of this report’s most solid conclusions addresses it specifically.
When Wendy began her work at The 451 Group (now 45...2021-04-2400 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Series 1 E3: Supply Chain Vulnerability & Tech DebtWhere do you start looking for tech debt?
Recording date: April 17, 2021
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This is a common question, and Chris and Nick discovered that they do it differently.
Chris describes how he views tech debt from the perspective of his continuous integration and continuous delivery pipeline: “How quickly can I release, and what’s getting in my way?” He discussed that recently, Charity Majors has been discussing the importance of a quick feedback cycle for developers:
people really...2021-04-1800 minThe Tech Debt Burndown PodcastEpisode 3: Supply Chain Attacks and Tech DebtWe’ve been hearing about software supply chain vulnerabilities quite a bit lately, from Solar Winds to CodeCov. How do these relate to technical debt? Ah, that’s a complicated questions, because each of its components are discussing complex things. In this episode, Chris and Nick try to hash it out, and to sort through what’s important.2021-04-1829 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Series 1 Episode 2: Ian Amit“You can’t kill all the tech debt; you can’t stay completely up to date or there won’t be a business.”
-Ian
Recording date: February 6, 2021
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We had a great conversation with Ian about how he runs a rather different kind of information security operation that can be described as a group of companies reporting up to one security organization for strategy, but which each support their own individual needs day to day.
Ian Amit s...2021-04-1100 minTech Debt Burndown PodcastTech Debt Burndown Series 1 E1: What Is Tech Debt?What is technical debt? Nick and Chris offer their definitions, despite agreeing there is no right answer.
Recording date: December 6, 2020
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Nick thinks it is the stuff we put off in favor of things we want to do*, while Chris quotes Ward Cunningham and Martin Fowler, summarizing that technical debt is basically the quick and dirty fixes that incur interest payments, and using the concepts of tech debt to describe problems faced over time.
A chat about “sh...2021-04-1100 min
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Title: On the Waterfront
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Narrator: Bruce Davison, Chris Hatfield, Dave Florek, David Selby, Hector Elizondo, Jake Bern, Jeffrey Donovan, Jon Matthews, Josh Stamberg, Kevin Daniels, Maurice Chasse, Nick Offerman, Rebecca Pidgeon, Richard Cox, Scott Atkinson, Stephen Ramsey, Tegan West
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