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Unmuted Education Podcast
Addendum 2: "Life Ready - The School That Put Students in Charge" - Shane Ogden Interview
In this episode, Shane Ogden, Superintendent of Meeteetse, Wyoming, discusses his transformative vision for education focused on problem-based learning and student-led initiatives. He shares insights on the implementation of programs like Genius Hour, fostering a culture of professional development among teachers, and engaging students in their learning experiences. Shane critiques standardized testing, advocating for deeper learning experiences and emphasizes the importance of community engagement and collaboration in driving educational reform.
2025-12-22
1h 30
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 22 (Beyond the Headline: What We Really Said About School Closures)
In this episode, we critically analyze a Casper Star Tribune article about our community's school closures, emphasizing the need for accurate media representation. Joined by Seth and Derek, we discuss our petition advocating for educational continuity and community engagement. We highlight the importance of schools as community hubs and the necessity for collaborative decision-making that includes all voices. Our conversation aims to inspire constructive dialogue and accountability, inviting listeners to engage in shaping a positive educational future.
2025-12-15
36 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Addendum 1: “Behind the Desk — The Hidden Responsibilities of a Superintendent
The interview features Deb, the superintendent of Fremont County School District 21 in Fort Washakie, Wyoming. Deb begins by outlining her typical day, emphasizing the diverse responsibilities a superintendent holds that often go unrecognized by the public. She notes that her work starts with daily meetings, including those with staff members across various departments, including transportation, facilities, special education, and counseling. Deb highlights the importance of regular communication with department heads and school principals to ensure smooth operations within the district, particularly in addressing logistical challenges such as field trips, sporting events, and routine safety drills like fire drills....
2025-12-08
54 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 21 (The Meeteetse Model: Family-First, Student-Led, Community-Built)
This episode features a compelling discussion with my co-hosts, Seth and Derek, about our transformative field trip to Meeteetse, focused on the role of leadership in education. We explore insights gained from interviewing 48 superintendents and visiting Shane Ogden's school, where collaboration and community feedback are prioritized. The emphasis on project-based learning and life skills over standardized testing creates a dynamic environment for students to take ownership of their education. We contrast Meeteetse's inclusive approach with the challenges in our own district, highlighting the need for greater transparency and community engagement in education. This conversation advocates for a compassionate and...
2025-12-01
1h 41
Unmuted Education Podcast
Finding Your Inner Calm: Integrative Healing with Nurse Practitioner Lynn Misch
Lynn Misch, a family nurse practitioner with nearly 40 years of experience, discusses her health journey and her upcoming wellness summit focused on cultivating inner calm. She shares insights from her cancer diagnosis that led her to explore integrative health practices and the importance of addressing burnout in healthcare. The summit, occurring from December 1 to December 12, will feature experts on mindfulness and stress management. Lynn emphasizes the value of finding the right integrative practitioner and the coexistence of conventional and alternative medicine while promoting a holistic approach to wellness.
2025-11-26
36 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Not Muted: Community Voice, School Closures, and Media Spin
In this episode, we analyze a contentious article from the Casper Star Tribune regarding school closures in Natrona County. Joined by Derek and Seth, we reflect on how media language shapes public perception and misrepresents our intentions. We clarify our commitment to meaningful discourse about educational choices rather than sensationalism. Highlighting the community-driven petition, we emphasize our goal of advocating for transparency and collaboration in decision-making processes. We discuss the long-term implications of school closures on community identity and stress the importance of open dialogue among all stakeholders. Our podcast aims to foster constructive conversations and encourage community involvement...
2025-11-25
36 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 20 (Ted Hanson — Relationships Before Rules): Trauma-Informed Special Ed
In this episode, I speak with Ted Hanson, Deputy Executive Director at BOCES 5, about his journey in special education. Ted emphasizes the importance of building relationships with students, especially those from trauma backgrounds, and discusses the unique challenges faced by BOCES 5 in providing comprehensive services. We explore the impacts of trauma on behavior and the necessity of adopting trauma-informed practices, particularly post-COVID-19. Ted challenges conventional views on discipline and advocates for a compassionate, equitable approach to education, making this conversation a crucial reflection on improving our educational systems.
2025-11-24
1h 42
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 19 (After the Announcement w/ Beth and Abby)
When a school closes, the loss is real for students, families, educators, and the neighborhoods around them. In this conversation, Beth, Abby, Seth, and Kobe talk about what happens inside us after news like this and how to move through it with care and intention.We name what grief can look like, why uncertainty fuels anxiety, and how timely information helps. We also explore how leaders and receiving schools can welcome displaced staff and students with true attunement, plus practical supports you can use right away.In this episode:
2025-11-17
47 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Tech Tips - Wait, That’s a Real Punctuation Mark‽
In this episode, we explore the unique punctuation mark known as the interrobang, which marries a question mark with an exclamation point. I share my personal journey in educational technology, reflecting on my experiences as a classroom teacher and principal, while my colleague Seth introduces me to the interrobang, prompting an engaging discussion about its history and significance. We delve into its 1960s origins and enjoy a light-hearted conversation on how to integrate this mark into our daily communications. I provide listeners with practical tips for adding the interrobang as a text replacement shortcut on their smartphones, culminating in...
2025-11-12
05 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 18 - Classroom Discipline
In this episode, I explore the complexities of discipline in the classroom, drawing from my experiences as a former educator. We question the educator's role in discipline and emphasize the importance of building respectful relationships with students. I share personal anecdotes illustrating the challenges of gaining respect, while co-host Derek offers strategies for fostering rapport.We discuss the necessity of clear behavioral expectations and the relevance of consequences in promoting accountability. Our conversation also addresses parental involvement and the implications of labeling students. Ultimately, we assert that discipline should be rooted in care and consistency, highlighting the...
2025-11-10
1h 28
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 17 - Failing Up
In this episode titled "Failing Up," we address the alarming trend of educational institutions prioritizing promotion over actual learning. Starting with a listener's account of high schools as diploma mills, we discuss the ethics of passing unprepared students and the impact of ineffective leadership in education. We highlight the need for a fundamental shift in educational philosophy, exploring research on delayed formal schooling and its benefits.We tackle issues of grade inflation and the culture of fear surrounding failure, advocating for the importance of accountability while acknowledging the necessity of failure for growth. This episode calls for meaningful...
2025-11-03
45 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Recess Talk and Exciting New updates
In this episode, we delve into the recent transformations taking place not just in our podcast space but also in our broader approach to content creation. The discussion kicks off with an entertaining dialogue about the mall's revitalization, providing a light-hearted backdrop that mirrors our own changes. As we explore the influx of new stores and shifting ownership dynamics, it serves as a metaphor for how we’re also evolving to better meet the needs of our audience.We’re also excited to announce the upcoming launch of a new podcast segment titled “Unmuted Brains...
2025-11-03
11 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 16 - From Saddle to Statehouse: JD Williams on “Keeping Wyoming, Wyoming”
In this episode, J.D. Williams, a key player in Wyoming politics and a seasoned rancher, discusses his upbringing in a conservative ranching family and the values of hard work and self-reliance that shaped him. He reflects on his transition from cowboying to community service, emphasizing that true leadership is about serving others.J.D. addresses challenges facing Wyoming, including the influences that threaten local governance, and advocates for decisions that prioritize long-term community needs. He also highlights the disconnect between education legislation and real-world impacts, calling for critical thinking and responsible fiscal policies to ensure future stability...
2025-10-28
43 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Live Recess Talk (School Closures)
In this episode, we explore the complexities of school management and community engagement amid recent school closures. We discuss concerns from parents and educators about transparency in decision-making and the tension between standardized testing and nurturing creativity in schools. Highlighting the need for smaller educational settings, we address how bureaucracy can hinder innovation and community responsiveness. Through real-world anecdotes, we emphasize the importance of recognizing diverse student needs and advocate for greater community involvement in shaping educational policies. This conversation serves as a call to action for families to unite for a more supportive and personalized approach to education.
2025-10-28
59 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 15 (Julie Jarvis - Understanding Literacy)
In this episode, I talk with Julie Jarvis, an educator and curriculum director, about her journey through the educational system. We discuss her challenges and triumphs in literacy, emphasizing the need for explicit reading instruction and effective assessment strategies. Julie shares insights from her doctoral research and her work advocating for literacy reforms in Wyoming. Our conversation also touches on the complexities of educational leadership and concludes with a lighthearted look at her involvement in unique legislative proposals.0:17 Introduction to the Podcast2:00 Julie's Background in Education4:24 The Importance of Literacy
2025-10-20
1h 21
Unmuted Education Podcast
Emergency Bonus Episode (Dirk and School Closures)
On this episode we answer listener feedback about school closures in Natrona County
2025-10-15
40 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 14 (Dirk and the Compact)
On this episode we answer some questions by you about the Compact in Natrona County School District
2025-10-13
39 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Where is the love Bonus Episode
In this episode, we discuss the societal implications following the passing of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, exploring reactions of celebration and the quest for sympathy amidst controversial views. We critique social media's role in amplifying division and echo chambers, and reflect on the historical context of public reactions. Highlighting the need for education on empathy and ethical discourse, we encourage listeners to foster open dialogue and understanding in today's polarized environment.
2025-10-09
44 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 13 (Jillian)
On this episode we talk with Jillian a former office administrator who worked with Coebie to open Journey Elementary School
2025-10-06
1h 13
Unmuted Education Podcast
Teachers are asking "What About Our Raises" w/ Julie Jarvis
Julie Jarvis discusses misconceptions about teacher raises in Wyoming, specifically an 8.5% increase proposed for certified and non-certified staff. She explains the state's school funding structure, which allocates funds based on Average Daily Membership (ADM) and Full-Time Equivalents (FTEs). The conversation highlights disparities in how the raise is distributed across districts, with smaller districts often receiving more funding per student due to block grants. Jarvis points out that rising healthcare costs and employment practices complicate the ability of districts to implement the full raises as intended. She emphasizes the need for transparency in funding communication and encourages educators to engage...
2025-10-03
15 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 12 (Shawna and the Jae Foundation)
In this episode, I chat with Shauna Trujillo about mental health and community support. Transitioning from teaching to grant management at Casper College, Shauna discusses her work with the Jay Foundation, which raises awareness about mental health and suicide prevention following the loss of Jay Bing.We explore initiatives like providing cowboy boots to graduating seniors as symbols of connection and the importance of open conversations around mental well-being. Shauna emphasizes the need for social-emotional learning in schools and encourages listeners to foster supportive environments for youth. This episode highlights the crucial role of community in addressing mental...
2025-09-30
1h 14
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 11 (Twins Redefining Education)
In this powerful episode of Unmutted, identical twin educators Abby and Beth share their groundbreaking approach to teaching, revealing the transformative power of partnership, emotional intelligence, and human-centered learning. They candidly discuss their journey from co-teaching in elementary classrooms to pursuing advanced degrees in neuroscience and mental health, challenging traditional educational paradigms and offering profound insights into student-teacher relationships.Listeners will gain unprecedented access to the raw, unfiltered experiences of educators who are reimagining what it means to truly support and understand students. From behavioral strategies to the importance of co-regulation, this episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate...
2025-09-23
1h 34
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 10 (Why Derek Left Education)
The interview explores Derek's extensive journey in education, from his academic background and initial inspiration to teach, to his various roles, including instructional facilitator and assistant principal. He discusses challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, which prompted a move to Wyoming, and shares insights into the complexities of school leadership, emphasizing the importance of relationships and mentorship. Derek expresses his disillusionment with current educational philosophies, advocating for a more humanistic approach focused on character and community. The conversation highlights his internal struggle as he contemplates leaving education for a new career opportunity, underscoring the balance between passion and pragmatism...
2025-09-16
1h 08
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 9 (One Year Only W/ Dirk Andrews)
In this episode, Dirk Andrews, Vice President of the Wyoming Education Association, discusses the challenges facing Wyoming's education system, particularly the detrimental effects of the one-year-only contract system for teachers in Natrona County. He emphasizes the negative impact of high turnover rates on student outcomes and community ties, and critiques the financial motivations driving these policies. Dirk also addresses broader issues like gun regulations and education vouchers, advocating for community involvement and collaborative decision-making to enhance educational quality. The conversation concludes with his vision for strengthening public schools in Wyoming.
2025-09-09
1h 12
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 8 (Ari Burback, a 22-year-old fashion entrepreneur)
Ari Burback, a 22-year-old fashion entrepreneur from Casper, Wyoming, shares her journey as a clothing designer focused on upcycling in this episode of "Unmuted." She discusses her experiences at major fashion events and reflects on her educational path, highlighting the constraints of traditional learning and the influence of inspiring teachers. Ari advocates for practical education that fosters creativity and exploration, urging students to pursue their passions despite societal pressures. Her story emphasizes the importance of following one's unique path and nurturing personal interests as vital to success.
2025-09-02
54 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 7 (I Won't Wait to Live: Breaking Free from Educational Burnout)
Join hosts Coebie and Seth as they sit down with Kristie Benabisi, a former school support staff member who shares her transformative journey from feeling stuck in a traditional education role to embracing a life of passion, purpose, and personal freedom. Kristie opens up about her experiences in schools, the challenges of burnout, and how she courageously chose to rewrite her life's narrative, offering inspiring insights for anyone feeling trapped in their current career. Discover how one woman's leap of faith led to a life of adventure, intuitive work, and true happiness.Links:https://unmuted-pod...
2025-08-26
52 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Back to School with Abby and Beth
In this episode, we explore the crucial topic of preparing for the back-to-school season with insights from experienced educators Abby Bishop and Beth Corley. We discuss the emotional challenges parents face, especially those sending children to kindergarten for the first time, and the shift in educational standards that have made early schooling more rigorous. The conversation highlights the importance of allowing downtime after school, as well as the role of co-regulation in helping children manage their emotions. We suggest strategies for establishing effective after-school routines, including visual schedules and creating comforting routines to ease separation anxiety. Additionally, we offer...
2025-08-25
1h 19
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 6 (Religious Public Charters)
Derek and Coebie discuss the potential impact of the Supreme Court's decision to allow the first public religious charter school, which is Catholic. They debate the historical separation of church and state in education, questioning whether it's necessary or beneficial. Derek argues that education should incorporate philosophy and theology, while Coebie emphasizes the need for a moral foundation in schools. They explore the implications of allowing religious charter schools, including the potential for diverse educational options and the importance of community involvement. They also discuss innovative educational approaches, such as integrating play and real-world learning, to create a more...
2025-08-19
22 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 5 (Pre-K)
Unmuted podcast focusing on early childhood education and parenting. The episode features two preschool educators, Alice and Dolly, who discuss significant changes in child development, social-emotional skills, and parenting approaches. They explore challenges like increased technology use, decreased social interaction, and the importance of teaching children basic skills like manners, self-help abilities, and emotional regulation. The conversation provides insights into how preschool education has evolved and the critical role of parents in child development.
2025-08-12
1h 08
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 4 (Bureaucracy in Education)
In this eye-opening episode of Unmuted, educators Coebie, Derek, and Seth dive deep into the bureaucratic maze of modern education. They explore how excessive policies, documentation, and fear-driven procedures are suffocating the human element of teaching. From hiring practices that push out talented educators, to leadership approaches that prioritize paperwork over student needs, the conversation reveals the urgent need for a more intuitive, relationship-centered approach to education. Listen as they share personal experiences, challenge the status quo, and advocate for a system that truly puts students and teachers first.
2025-08-05
1h 00
Unmuted Education Podcast
Bonus Episode (Recess Talk)
This podcast, titled "Recess," is an informal, unstructured conversation between colleagues discussing various topics, primarily focusing on AI, technology, and business opportunities. In this episode, they discuss Derek's new job, a road trip for a Bitcoin mining project, and potential AI-driven business ideas, including an automated phone assistant for a bakery and an AI-powered educational lesson planning platform. The conversation is casual, with participants sharing personal experiences, brainstorming business concepts, and exploring the potential of AI in different sectors. This podcast designed to share insights and spontaneous discussions that might be of interest to our Patreon subscribers.
2025-08-01
20 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Bonus Episode (Nathan Unmuted)
🎉 BONUS EPISODE 🎉 Normally exclusive to our Patreon supporters, we're releasing this powerful conversation for all listeners!In this eye-opening episode, former teacher and law enforcement officer Nathan reveals the harsh realities of today's education system. Hear a candid, insider's perspective on the systemic challenges facing teachers, including moral dilemmas, administrative pressures, and the erosion of classroom authority. Nathan shares his personal journey of burnout and ultimately deciding to leave teaching, exposing the deep-rooted issues that are driving dedicated educators away from the profession.Key topics include:The emotional and physical toll of modern teachingChallenges of mai...
2025-07-30
45 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 3 (Interview w/ Nathan on Leaving Education)
After a 10 plus years in education, many educators are starting to leave the field. In this episode Nathan shares while he is leaving education and not turning back.
2025-07-29
34 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 2 (Teacher Burnout)
This episode takes listeners behind the scenes with Principal Coebie and Assistant Principal Derek as they candidly discuss the challenges facing educators today. Joined by outside perspective Seth, they unpack the complex world of teacher burnout - exploring everything from classroom pressures to administrative challenges. With 31 years of experience and raw, unfiltered conversations, this podcast offers a unique look at the emotional landscape of modern education. Hear real stories, practical insights, and the human side of teaching that often goes unseen.Links:https://unmuted-pod.com
2025-07-22
38 min
Unmuted Education Podcast
Episode 1 (Interview w/ Coebie on Resigning Part 1)
Coebie, a principal with 31 years of experience, recently retired on June 30, 2025. She discussed her emotional journey, including the challenges of balancing intuitive leadership with data-driven policies, the impact of school closures and COVID-19, and the frustration with one-year-only contracts for new teachers. Coebie emphasized the importance of valuing and supporting children and teachers, and expressed concerns about the current educational system's focus on test scores over holistic development. She plans to explore new passions and inspire other leaders to think outside the box.
2025-07-15
1h 06
Unmuted Education Podcast
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2025-07-13
15 min