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Black In White ChurchS2E13 - "Top Books, Podcasts, and Leaders on Race and Christianity"Last episode of Season 2! We hope y'all enjoyed this season and have enjoyed the podcast.
Here is the list of resources and names:
Top Books -
Divided by Faith by Michael Emerson
Sin of White Supremacy by Jeannine Fletcher
Insider Outsider by Bryan Loritts
Color of Law by Richard Rothstein
Redisicipling the White Church by David Swanson
The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander
Reading While Black by Esau Mccauley
Biography of Martin Luther King Jr. and Frederick Douglass
Top Podcasts -
Church Politics Podcast by the AND Campaign
Disrupters Po...2021-08-1228 minBlack In White ChurchS2E12 - "White Guilt and White Women's Tears"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton discuss the white guilt and white women’s tears. Is white guilt a helpful path towards racial equality? How does the emotional experience of white women often play into this conversation?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute and Pew Research Center.
* All views expressed in this podcas...2021-07-1939 minBlack In White ChurchS2E11 - "White Jesus, Black Jesus, and Representation"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton discuss the different skin tones of depictions of Jesus. Is it wrong to have a white Jesus? What is the history of white jesus? Does representation matter?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute and Pew Research Center.
Article about Jesus depictions - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/arts...2021-07-1232 minBlack In White ChurchS2E10 - "Reparations"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk through reparations. Are reparations biblical? Is it even possible to think of modern day reparations? Are white people to be punished for the sins of their ancestors?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Article Mentioned by Thabiti Anyabwile - https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/thabiti-anyabwile/reparations-are-biblical/
Book Mentioned is “Reparations: A Christian Call for Re...2021-06-2841 minBlack In White ChurchS2E9 - "The Cross and the Lynching Tree"On today's episode, Colton takes us through some of the history of lynching and racial terror in the U.S. After this, Ryan and Colton walk through some reflections on the black experience in America and its’ relationship to Jesus’ carrying his cross to Calvary. They also talk a bit about James Cone’s book “The Cross and the Lynching Tree.” This is a heavy episode.
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from...2021-06-141h 05Black In White ChurchS2E8 - "Reverse Racism"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton discuss reverse racism. They go over the different definitions of racism and prejudice. Are white people being discriminated against by black people? If so, is it done in the same ways? What is the Christian way of going about these things?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute
...2021-06-0726 minBlack In White ChurchS2E7 - "Why Can't I Use the N-Word when Black People Can?"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton discuss the N-word. Is it ever okay for a white person to use? Why do some black people use the word? Aren’t words just words?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Ted talk mentioned on history of N-Word - https://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_stordeur_pryor_why_it_s_so_hard_to_talk_about_the_n_word...2021-05-3129 minBlack In White ChurchS2E6 - "Protests, Riots,and Christian Responses"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton discuss riots and protests. How should Christians respond to protests? What about the riots? Should our condemnation of the riots be as equally as strong as the condemnation of racial injustice?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Article Mentioned by Esau Mccaulley - https://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2020/june/racism-in-america-interview-with-esau-mccaulley-part-four.html
* All views expressed in th...2021-05-2435 minBlack In White ChurchS2E5 - "Ghetto Neighborhoods" + "Broken Window Policing"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk about ghetto neighborhoods and broken window policing. Why are some neighborhoods considered ghettos? Is there a racial component to impoverished neighborhoods? Is it okay as a Christian to want to live in a nicer, safer neighborhood? Do some of our police tactics help lift people out of poverty or keep them chained in it?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
2021-05-1734 minBlack In White ChurchS2E4 - "Post-Racial America" + "America Isn't Racist Anymore, We Elected Obama"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk through the idea of Post-Racial America. Has America come full circle from its’ racist past? Have we entered a new phase where race no longer matters? Did Obama’s presidency signal an end to all race based discrimination on a serious level?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute, Lifeway Researc...2021-05-1022 minBlack In White ChurchS2E3 - "Woke Pastors and Cancel Culture"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk through “Woke Pastors” and the recent controversy of “Cancel Culture.” Should pastors be woke? What does it mean to be a woke Christian?
They also dive into cancel culture. Should churches be fighting cancel culture or joining in with it? Is it a good thing?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Book mentioned is “Woke Church” by Dr...2021-05-0337 minBlack In White ChurchS2E2 - "Both Sides Are Evil" + "Whataboutism"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton discuss the common remark “Both Sides are Evil” plus they talk about whataboutism. We often see these phrases after someone’s own party does something evil or when someone may want to dismiss another’s claim for justice. We’ve seen this a lot recently… Is this helpful? Should we have to call out all evil in order to speak into any evil? How do we faithfully engage in this present evil age?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach...2021-04-2626 minBlack In White ChurchS2E1 - "Slavery Was So Long Ago, I Never Owned Slaves!"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton discuss slavery and if current Americans have any responsibility with it. Are Christians only held accountable for their own sins? Is there anything in the Bible that would help us deal with sinful ancestors?
Sorry about that glitch when Colton was quoting Al Mohler, here is the full quote: ““we must repent of our own sins, we cannot repent of the dead.”
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch...2021-04-1923 minBlack In White ChurchS1E15 - "What Can We Do About It? How Can We Help?"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton go over practical steps we all can take to fight racism in our lives, our churches, and our society. They go over the “ARC” model developed by Jemar Tisby. All of us are unfinished products, but it is our responsibility as Christians to strive towards holiness by fighting racism.
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Organizations Mentioned:
Cret...2021-03-151h 11Black In White ChurchS1E14 - "Black on Black Crime"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton address “Black on Black Crime.” Is this a uniquely black issue? Is this helpful when talking about matters of police brutality and racism? What is the truth behind crime in black neighborhoods?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
For the video from Propaganda that Colton and Ryan referenced, you can go here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqAS2l...2021-03-0828 minBlack In White ChurchS1E13 - "Black Fatherlessness"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton address the issue of Black Fatherlessness. Is this issue an exclusively black one? Is this the main reason for the issues facing black communities? How should we think about fatherlessness from a Biblical perspective?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute, the U.S. Census Bureau, Center for Family and Marriage Res...2021-03-0135 minBlack In White ChurchS1E12 - "Systemic Racism Doesn't Exist"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton discuss systemic racism. They make a distinction between systemic racism and systematic racism, as well as discuss the disparities between the black and white communities.
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Holy Post “Race in America” video by Phil Vischer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGUwcs9qJXY
Book referenced are “The Color of Law” by...2021-02-2244 minBlack In White ChurchS1E11 - "White Privilege and Whiteness"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk through White Privilege. Do all white people have white privilege? What is the difference between white privilege and whiteness? What is a Christian’s role in going about white privilege?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Books mentioned are “The Color of Law” by Richard Rothstein and “Working Towards Whiteness” by David Roediger
* All views exp...2021-02-1543 minBlack In White ChurchS1E10 - "Critical Race Theory and Intersectionality"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton dive into the topic of Critical Race Theory. Is this new way of seeing the world damaging for Christians? How should we approach theories like this? What do we do with Intersectionality?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
For the article about Pastor Charlie Dates leaving the SBC, you can go here: https://religionnews.com/2020/12/18/we-out-charlie-dates-on-why-his-church-is-leaving-the-sbc-over-rejection-of-critical-race-theory/
...2021-02-0854 minBlack In White ChurchS1E9 - "All Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, and Police Brutality"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk about the current reality of police brutality in America. With BLM rising up, some in the white church have called for all lives to matter. Is this helpful? What is the Christian response to these police killings?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
For the history of Policing, check out this podcast Colton mentioned - https://podcasts.app...2021-02-0143 minBlack In White ChurchS1E8 - "Democrats Have Been Worse For the Black Community than Republicans"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk politics. Have progressives actually been worse for the Black community than republicans? Why do 92% of Black Protestants vote democrat, and 81% of White Evangelicals vote Republican? Listen to find out!
As always, you can follow us on Instagram @ bnwchurch. Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Colton referenced the “AND Campaign”, a non-profit centered around being for Compassion and Conviction and not getting caught up in the bipartisan binary. You can listen more to the...2021-01-2530 minBlack In White ChurchS1E7 - "I Don't See Color" and "Colorblind Theology"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton discuss the common phrase “I don’t see color.” Although this phrase is well-intentioned, it often dismisses the lived experiences of people of color. Beyond this, we talk about colorblind Theology which is rooted in a quote from Martin Luther King Jr.
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute and Pew Research...2021-01-1820 minBlack In White ChurchS1E6 - "I'm Not Racist, I Have a Black Friend." + "Relationships Are the Only Way to Solve Racism"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk about how relationships are effective in fighting racism, as well as how they might fall short. They get into our overly individualistic lens of racism and show how the Bible talks about a more holistic way of fighting injustice.
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute and Pew Research Center....2021-01-1122 minBlack In White ChurchS1E5 - "The Gospel and Prayer are the Only Way to Fight Racism" + "We Need to Bring Our Nation Back to God"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk about prayer and the gospel in fighting racism. Are the gospel and prayer our best two tools to fight racism? Is your view of the gospel too small? What about other ways to fight racism?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Books to look at the historical reality of America and Christianity, see: "The Color of Compromise" by...2021-01-0424 minBlack In White ChurchS1E4 - "It's Not a SKIN Issue, It's a SIN Issue. Why Do You Always Have to Make It About Race?"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk about the reality of racism as a sin issue versus a skin issue. Is one more prominent than the other? Why do we often breathe a sigh of relief at statements like this? Can it be both a skin issue and a sin issue?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research In...2020-12-2822 minBlack In White ChurchS1E3 - "Racism Doesn't Exist in My Church" and the "White Moderate"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton dive into the reality of racism in our churches. Many would claim to not have racism in their pews, but is this actually the truth?
They also dive into the “White Moderate” and use Billy Graham as an example of this approach to racism in our churches.
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Stories of Bill...2020-12-2126 minBlack In White ChurchS1E2 - "You're Like an Oreo" and Other MicroaggressionsOn today's episode, Ryan and Colton talk through common sayings Ryan heard growing up in white Church. Phrases like “you don’t really act like a black guy” to “do you get sunburnt?” to even seemingly innocent ones like assuming Ryan loves fried chicken and watermelon. Some of these could be classified as “Microaggressions,” and others as forms of “othering.”
Regardless, we hope this episode shows you the importance of language in our churches. What we say matters, and that especially matters in terms of race in our churches.
As always, you can follow us on...2020-12-1426 minBlack In White ChurchS1E1 - "Black and White Church"On today's episode, Ryan and Colton dive into the history of Black and White Church. Why are our churches so segregated? Why do we have a black church and a white church? Did this happen naturally or was there things that made this happen?
As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at bnwchurch@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
Books mentioned are "The Color of Compromise" by Jemar Tisby and "The Cross and the...2020-12-0738 minBlack In White Church"Black In White Church" IntroductionOn this episode, Ryan and Colton introduce the podcast to the world. "Black in White Church" is a podcast centering around Ryan's black and Colton's white experience in white church. This podcast is fundamentally a conversation, not a sermon. Neither Ryan nor Colton claim to have all the answers, but their experiences and studies might shine some light on the current reality of Black people in White Churches.
Ryan is a High School Pastor at RMCC in Mesa, Arizona. He received his Bachelors of Arts in Christian Studies and a Masters of Science and Leadership f...2020-11-2305 min