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Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1: Learnings From Space For The Workplace, With NASA 4-D
Paul Hawkins of Crazy Might Work reveals what businesses can learn from NASA’s successes and failures This Space Connect Podcast features a returning guest: Paul Hawkins, the founder of Crazy Might Work. Crazy Might Work is a leadership and innovation academy that brings lessons from frontiers like space to the workplace. More simply put, Paul and his team work with leaders and their teams to create and mobilise high-performing teams. Their re-imagination of NASA’s successful 4-D program won the 2025 AUS Space award for Workplace Initiative of the Year.
2025-07-13
39 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Charlie Pellerin and Paul Hawkins - Fireside Chat About the Revamped NASA 4-D Leadership Program
Charlie Pellerin (Former Director of Astrophysics, NASA) and Paul Hawkins (Chief Combobulator, Crazy Might Work) discuss the origins of the NASA 4-Dimensional Leadership Program and why it has been transformational globally since launching in the late 1990’s. The program has been voluntarily completed by over 1,500 NASA teams, contributing to NASA being named Best Place to Work in US government for the twelfth year in a row (May, 2024). Paul talks about the new program which now incorporates simulations and updates from the current space program, as well as contemporary neuroscientific research, making it a leadership and team development experience like no...
2024-09-27
1h 07
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1: Leadership Lesssons from Frontiers Like Space
The Space Shuttle Challenger and Columbia disasters, along with other failed missions led NASA to rethink how it fostered leadership and culture. Now, Crazy Might Work is using an ultra-modern version of the NASA 4-Dimensional Leadership Program, (based on the current space program) to share those learnings with other organisations and leadership teams.In this special episode recorded at the Australian Space Summit in May 2024, Paul Hawkins talks to host Adam Thorn about the program, it's origins in Antarctica, whether leaders are born or made, and how NASA became the best place to work in federal government...
2024-06-18
24 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1: Shailee Basnet's Lessons for High-Performing Teams
In this inspiring interview, Shailee Basnet, a Nepalese mountaineer and leader, shares her unique experiences climbing Mount Everest and leading the Seven Summits Women Team in that endeavour. She shares the driving purpose behind the team to challenge gender stereotypes and managing team conflict and the importance of shared vision and commitment. She shares how her own purpose has shifted from personal achievements to empowering others. On failure, she shares the moment her team had to turn back from a summit climb and how that was to be celebrated as it prioritised safety. She shares candidly about humour, love...
2024-05-07
1h 04
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1 - The Edge of Organisational Development with Matthew Elphick
Matthew Elphick, a learning and development expert, shares his journey and insights into the boundaries of learning and development in organizations. He emphasises the importance of real change in the context of work and the power of coaching in facilitating that change. Matthew discusses the balance between theory and practice in adult learning and the need for organisations to prioritise learning as a strategic agenda. He also explores strategies for evaluating learning programs and the role of personalisation in organisational learning. Matthew concludes by discussing the potential of data-driven learning and the lessons we can learn from nature and...
2024-02-12
48 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1: Bridging Leadership and Innovation
Why innovation is a critical leadership capability and what to do about it. Paul Hawkins is the Chief Combobulator at Crazy Might Work, an award-winning, for-purpose innovation agency - and the first to be launched in Antarctica. He is certified in neuroscience, innovation, and appreciative inquiry through the Neuro-Leadership Institute, Stanford and Case Western Universities respectively and is completing a PhD in Innovation. His research has unlocked the code to how great leaders can create the right culture for innovation to thrive. In this insightful interview, Paul reveals why innovation pillars are in so many st...
2023-10-30
32 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1 | Ideaflow: The Only Business Metric That Matters By Jeremy Utley
Jeremy Utley is a world-leading expert in creativity and co-author of Ideaflow. In this interview, he tells us what Ideaflow is, and why it is the only business metric that matters. He is also a director of executive education at Stanford’s d.school and an adjunct professor at Stanford’s School of Engineering.Thanks for listening to the Crazy Might Work Podcast! We hope you have enjoyed listening to the great conversations with extraordinary people. For more resources, go here https://www.crazymightwork.com/resources/
2023-07-28
50 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1 - From Wollongong to Space: The Journey of Meganne Christian (Thus Far)
Meganne Christian is a trailblazer. After obtaining her PhD in Chemical Engineering at Wollongong University, she set out to become Australia’s first female astronaut, competing successfully against 22,500 other candidates for selection as a member of the European Space Agency’s final 17, ‘Class of 2023’. Like many other astronauts before her, she has ‘Wintered Over’ in Antarctica and experienced its ICE (Isolation, Confinement and Extreme Conditions) first hand. In this podcast, Meganne shares her experiences to date, providing welcome inspiration for students everywhere who aspire to be part of the Artemis or ‘Moon to Mars’ programs. In her day job, she is researchi...
2023-06-23
42 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1 - Winter in Space' by Nicola Winter
In this episode, we have Nicola Winter, who is Germany’s second female Air Force Fighter Pilot, who is also set to become Germany’s first female astronaut! She shares with us on her experiences on the astronaut selection process and how her outlook on life (and risk) was challenged when she became a mother. Nicola also shares her thoughts on NASA behaviours like Reality-Based Optimism and other lessons from her time in the Luftwaffe and in astronaut selection processes. Thanks for listening to the Crazy Might Work Podcast! We hope you have enjoyed liste...
2023-03-22
42 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1 | 'Befriend Your Fears' by Dr. Ron Farmer
Trailblazer, Dr. Ron Farmer brought cognitive behavioural psychology to Australia and rapidly earned a reputation as a leading behavioural and sex therapist. Then, the unexpected happened – Ron had a nervous breakdown of his own and had to apply all his training as a clinical psychologist to bring himself back from the brink of anxiety and despair. This is the story of his dance with fear, and some of the deep learnings that led him to create free resources for anyone experiencing a similar journey.Dr. Ron Farmer's Self-Help Site: https://www.selfhelptherapy.com.auThis ep...
2022-12-23
36 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1 - 'Space Kills Cancer' by Dr. Joshua Chou
Dr. Joshua Chou discovered an intriguing relationship between cancer and space flight. Sparked by a conversation with Stephen Hawking, Dr. Joshua Chou's discovery won him Researcher of the Year in Australia. As co-founder of the International Humans in Space Summit, Dr. Joshua Chou also continues to play a pivotal role in bridging the gap between industry and academia. So, if you are curious about why cancer cells die in space, or why the space industry is for everyone, then this podcast is for you!Thanks for listening to the Crazy Might Work Podcast!
2022-11-13
29 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 2 of 2 - The Nature of Biomimicry by Lex Amore
What is biomimicry and why is it relevant to our lives? In this second episode, Lex Amore, the Communications Director for Biomimicry Institute, joins us to tell us more about the wonders of biomimicry and how it affects the world. Lex Amore utilises her strengths in communication and knowledge in biomimicry to bridge the gap between humans and the natural world to bring focus on climate issues and how we can work together to create solutions through understanding nature.Thanks for listening to the Crazy Might Work Podcast! We hope you have...
2022-10-28
28 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 2 - The Nature of Biomimicry by Lex Amore
What is biomimicry and why is it relevant to our lives? In this two-episodes series, Lex Amore, the Communications Director for Biomimicry Institute, joins us to tell us more about the wonders of biomimicry and how it affects the world. Lex Amore utilises her strengths in communication and knowledge in biomimicry to bridge the gap between humans and the natural world to bring focus on climate issues and how we can work together to create solutions through understanding nature.Thanks for listening to the Crazy Might Work Podcast! We hope you...
2022-10-28
30 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 1 - Caryn Sandler 'Insights on Innovation'
This special single-episode of 'Insights on Innovation' starring Caryn Sandler, Partner and Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Gilbert + Tobin. Caryn has recently been awarded with the Most Innovative Change Maker at the Financial Times Most Innovated Lawyer Awards 2022. Caryn also has one innovative year in various Lawyers Weekly awards, including 2019, 2020 and 2021. In addition, Gilbert + Tobin has been the most innovative firm for the fourth year in a row at the Australian Financial Review Client Choice Awards and the winner of the Excellence and Technology and Innovation Award at the Australian Law Awards. Caryn is definitely someone who knows...
2022-10-15
31 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 4 of 4 - How NASA Builds Teams w/ Charlie Pellerin
In this last episode of the series, Dr. Charlie Pellerin explains how expressing authentic appreciation changed his life, and life at NASA. As former director of NASA's astrophysics division and author of "How NASA Builds Teams", Dr. Charlie Pellerin, developed the now-famous 4-D program after the catastrophic Challenger shuttle disaster.Dr. Charlie Pellerin's contribution to the aerospace industry were so extraordinary that he received the highest honour of recognition, the Distinguished Service Medal. This four-episode series is hosted on the CRAZYPodcast channel by Paul Hawkins, Chief Combobulator of Crazy Might Work will dive into the specifics wi...
2022-09-22
15 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 3 of 4 - How NASA Builds Teams w/ Charlie Pellerin
In this third episode, Dr. Charlie Pellerin explains the difference between a story and storylines and how shifting them can alter your emotions for the better. He then provides example of shifting storylines and how we can use them in daily lives.As the former director of NASA's astrophysics department and author of "How NASA Builds Teams", Dr. Charlie Pellerin, assisted the teams at NASA after the catastrophic Space Shuttle Challenger disaster back in 1986. He developed the now-famous NASA 4-D leadership program, enabling teams to facilitate teamwork and iron out any possible miscommunications which could lead to h...
2022-09-15
18 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 2 of 4 - How NASA Builds Teams w/ Charlie Pellerin
In this second episode, Dr. Charlie Pellerin goes in-depth on explaining how did authentic appreciation and appropriate inclusion work in real-life settings and how it shaped the NASA 4-D Leadership Program.As the former director of NASA's astrophysics department and author of "How NASA Builds Teams", Dr. Charlie Pellerin, assisted the teams at NASA after the catastrophic Space Shuttle Challenger disaster back in 1986. He developed the now-famous NASA 4-D leadership program, enabling teams to facilitate teamwork and iron out any possible miscommunications which could lead to history repeating itself. His contribution to the aerospace industry were so ex...
2022-09-08
14 min
Crazy Might Work Podcast
Episode 1 of 4 - How NASA Builds Teams w/ Charlie Pellerin
In this first episode of 'How NASA Builds Teams', Dr. Charlie Pellerin gives us a backstory of the various challenges that he faced on his journey with NASA and how he came up with the NASA 4-D Leadership Program.As the former director of NASA's astrophysics department and author of "How NASA Builds Teams", Dr. Charlie Pellerin, assisted the teams at NASA after the catastrophic Space Shuttle Challenger disaster back in 1986. He developed the now-famous NASA 4-D leadership program, enabling teams to facilitate teamwork and iron out any possible miscommunications which could lead to history repeating itself. Hi...
2022-09-01
22 min