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Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersWhy aren't we at annual conference?It’s Thursday, May 22, 2025, and we haven’t recorded in almost 6 months. We’re here today to change that! What have we been up to? We also wanted to talk about who’s not represented at Annual Conference session this week (including the 3 of us), and what we as a Church might do to change that. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2025-05-2258 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersNow What?Hey friends, we have some new content for you! The three of us had a conversation about the state of the country we call home, and what the future looks like now that we're starting a second Presidential term with a certain man who uses a little too much spray tanner. How do we help one another? How do we support the folx the Oompa Lumpa has threatened to disenfranchise? We talk about those questions from a pastoral perspective. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get...
2025-01-2053 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersThrive with Natalie, Emily, and JessicaWe're baaaaaaaack! It's been exactly 6 months since our last new episode...and a whole lot has been going on with us. Emily talks mental health, Jess talks physical health, Natalie talks disability and inclusion, and all of us talk about letting your heart and soul air out. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2024-09-1147 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersDeep and Wide with Edris HitchcockOur very good, longtime friend, the Rev. Edris Hitchcock, pastor at the First Baptist Church of LeRoy, chats with Natalie and Jess about motherhood in the ministry, hope in the face of messiness, and a few memories from our old seminary friends Matt Turie, and the late, beloved Heather Janes. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2024-03-1152 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersMany Gifts One Spirit with Megan StoweIn this episode Natalie, Jess, and Emily interview their friend and colleague, the Rev. Megan Stowe. A longtime servant of the Upper New York Conference, Megan moved over to New England and is now a DS in Massachusetts. Megan chats about resources that help clergy thrive, imposter syndrome, and being her brave self. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2024-02-2647 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersYe Servants of God with Genghis KhanIn this special episode, Natalie, Emily, and Jess interview Natalie's neighbor and colleague Genghis Khan, an imam, prison chaplain, and electrician at GE! Genghis dives deep into his immigration story from Guyana, his Muslim faith, bad stereotypes Christians have about our Muslim friends, and how anyone who achieves peace through submission to God is a Muslim! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2024-02-121h 08
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersLighthouse with Paul UppalIn this special interfaith episode Natalie, Emily, and Jess chat with Natalie's friend and colleague Paul Uppal, a fellow member of Schenectady Clergy Against Hate and a Sikh. We had an amazing conversation about Paul's immigration story, false ideas and stereotypes Christians have about Sikh's, the beauty of the Sikh scriptures, and about how all you have to do to see God is look in the mirror. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2024-01-2250 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersThis Is the Day with Adam HamiltonIn this very special second season premiere, Natalie, Emily, and Jess are all together and interview the Rev. Adam Hamilton! That name will ring bells of recognition across the United Methodist connection, as Adam is the lead pastor of the Church of the Resurrection in Leawood, Kansas, which is the largest Methodist congregation in the United States. Adam is also the author of a host of books, and has served several times as a delegate to General Conference. Adam chats with us about how his belief in pretty girls brought him to a belief in Jesus, about his unconventional...
2024-01-081h 05
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersSanctuary with Melissa MorralNatalie and Jess reunite with the luminous Melissa Morral! CRCDS friends will remember Melissa as the first person they met on campus, as a steadfast presence amid the chaos of seminary life, and as a friend. Melissa chats with us about her upbringing among evangelicals, her exceptional calling, her time studying and working at CRCDS, and her ministry these days to the poor and to the refugee. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-11-0642 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersPraise to the Lord, the Almighty with Jo SchonewolfContent warning: This episode contains discussions of childhood sexual abuse and cancer, as well as a few more F-bombs than we normally drop.Natalie chats with Jo Schonewolf, host of the podcast "What the Hell Is a Pastor?" Natalie and Jo talk about being a Christian in the '90s, the damage of purity culture, beating cancer, the new frontier of Christian podcasting, moving on after a toxic experience, and the complicated relationship pastors have with saying 4 letter words. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other...
2023-10-171h 02
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersShalom to You with Amy-Jill LevineWe've got a really special one for you this week! In this episode Natalie interviews Dr. Amy-Jill Levine, a Yankee Jewish Feminist from the Buckle of the Bible Belt! AJ"s research focus and teaching specialty is New Testament studies, and she is an ever flowing fount of knowledge. Natalie and AJ talk about not bearing false witness against your neighbor, the false dichotomy of a Jew teaching New Testament, the cultural watering down of Jesus from fudge cheesecake to graham crackers and how to restore his flavor, and parables as indictment. This is a public...
2023-10-091h 04
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersI Want to Live so God Can Use Me with Jacki PillotNatalie and Emily connect with their favorite Facebook friend that they've never actually met in person, Pastor Jacki Pillot. She's a licensed local pastor serving in the Greater New Jersey Conference, her loving husband is a pastor too, and she has three beautiful daughters. Upper New York friends may know Jacki's mom, the Rev. Carolyn Stow. We chat work and home life balance, new ways of reaching children and families, what to do when a grumpster complains, and the importance of love. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other...
2023-09-3040 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersBe Still, My Soul with Sam KinsmanIn this episode Jess and Natalie have an amazing conversation with the Rev. Sam Kinsman, Protestant Chaplain at the University of Rochester, and pastor of the flock that Natalie belonged to in college, the Protestant Chapel Community. We chat about coming out stories and the queerness of the Trinity, mental health struggles and honoring those we've lost, and the progressive future our young people are leading us into. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-09-181h 26
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersI Want to Live So God Can Use Me with Michelle Bogue-TrostWe've got a good one this week! Natalie and Jess chat with the Rev. Michelle Bogue-Trost, senior pastor at Central UMC in Endicott, NY. We talk about life as a Dangerous Liberal Lady Preacher, culture shocks in the ministry, code-switching in the Church, and re-writing scripts. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-09-1156 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersOn This Day Earth Shall RING with Josh, aka JRR Jokien for TolkienWe have another very special one for you, friends! Straight outta Twitter and Substack, our friend Josh, better known as JRR Jokien. Josh is all at once an adorkable nerd, a lover of the _Lord of the Rings_ series, and active in his own ministry. In this episode Jess and Natalie have all kinds of fun geeking out with Josh and talking about what Tolkien teaches us about our faith and our world. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers...
2023-09-041h 05
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersAnd Can It Be That I Should Gain with John TysonOh boy do we have a special show for you today! In this episode Natalie and Jess are joined by Dr. John Tyson, our old United Methodist Studies professor from our CRCDS days, and author of _Born in Crisis and Shaped by Controversy_. We had an amazing conversation about the past, present, and future of the UMC! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-08-2855 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersWhat Wondrous Love Is This? with Ann KemperNatalie and Jess interview our old mentor and beloved friend Ann Kemper, pastor at Covenant UMC in Rochester, NY, and member of the Upper New York Board of Ordained Ministry. First, we giggle about the "golden scissors" of editing a podcast, and then we talk theology with one of the greats. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-08-2147 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersYour Love, O God with Beth QuickJess and Natalie chat with fellow UNYUMC clergy gal pal, the Rev. Beth Quick, who is working on a PhD at Drew University in the theology of creation care. Beth shares all the wonderful things music can do to deepen your connection to the Divine, the importance of learning new spiritual practices, the influence an atheist sibling can have on your faith life, and how climate change, white supremacy, patriarchy, and colonialism are all interconnected. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes...
2023-08-1459 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersWe've a Story to Tell to the Nations with Heather WilliamsIn this special interview, Natalie chats with her old mentor, the Rev. Heather Williams, senior pastor at the First UMC of Saratoga Springs. Heather has an abundance of wisdom about re-membering our pasts, standing up to bullies by refusing to keep their secrets, the power of story telling, and her thesis about theological mansplaining. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-08-0736 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersJesus, Lover of My Soul with Wesley CaldwellNatalie and Jess chat with Wesley Caldwell, our friend who works at Camp Casowasco. Wesley shares his life and journey as a trans Christian, and we talk about how we can truly support our GLBTQIA beloveds. Wesley also shares his passion for the camp ministries, and what a nurturing time at camp teaches you about God's love. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-06-2647 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersRejoice, Ye Pure in Heart with Richelle GoffIn this special interview, Natalie chats with our beloved friend, the Rev. Richelle Goff, senior pastor at the Fairport United Methodist Church. Richelle shares her heart about being a young seminarian and a young woman minister in an institution that historically gives more power to old men, body shaming and mom shaming among clergywomen, and the power of being a good mentor. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-06-191h 00
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersAnd Are We Yet Alive with Bishop Karen OlivetoFriends, we're OVERJOYED to share this very special interview with Bishop Karen Oliveto! Serving the Mountain Sky Conference in the Western Jurisdiction, Bishop Karen is the UMC's first openly lesbian Bishop. We talk about the Pentecost moment of her election to the episcopacy, the dire need for a reformation in the UMC, the movement of the Holy Spirit in our work, and how important it is for the younger generations to lead the way. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit...
2023-06-0552 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersFreely, Freely with Beckie SweetThe Rev. Beckie Sweet, senior pastor of St. Paul's UMC in Ithaca, NY and beloved friend to many in the Upper New York Conference, joins us for an absolutely delightful discussion about how to be an LGBTQIA inclusive Church, how to empower women in the ministry, and the many spiritual lessons our children teach us. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-05-291h 14
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersHoly, Holy, Holy with Jeremy SmithRev. Jeremy Smith, United Methodist pastor serving in the Pacific Northwest and author of the very awesome blog "Hacking Christianity", chats with us about this "interregnum" time in the UMC and the future of our denomination, his upbringing being molded by other Dangerous Liberal Lady Preachers, and expanding the accessibility and lifespan of the Church. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-05-221h 15
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersGreat Is Thy Faithfulness with Lynn Carman BoddenNatalie chats with her friend, the Rev. Lynn Carman Bodden, a fellow member of Schenectady Clergy Against Hate, about the blessings of interim ministry, Bowen family systems theory, the "500 year rummage sale", and pinch points in the ministry. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-05-151h 09
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersEl Shaddai with Margaret ScottIn this episode Natalie and Emily reunite with their old beloved mentor, the Rev. Margaret Scott! Margaret chats with us about faith symbols, being an oblate to a monastery, the two way traffic of Jacob's ladder, building spiritual depth, vulnerability, and the power of naming your experiences. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-05-081h 06
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersI Love to Tell the Story with Paul ChilcoteWe were so blessed to spend n hour in the presence of the Rev. Dr. Paul W. Chilcote, United Methodist Elder, professor, and expert in Wesleyan history. Paul talks to us about monasticism in the 21st Century, the underbelly of Church life, how learning to cross cultural divides could change everything for the Church and world, the hymns of Charles Wesley, and the women pioneers in the Methodist family tree. You'll want to check this one out. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to...
2023-05-0151 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersSpirit of the Living God with Rebecca LairdThe three of us interview our longtime friend Becky, a UMC Elder who took her ministry off the beaten path and into the business world. Becky chats with us about nontraditional ministries, callings, learning more about yourself after a crisis, and how "God doesn't make junk." This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-04-241h 06
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersAbide with Me with Amaury Tañon SantosEmily and Natalie interview Natalie's neighbor, friend, and colleague, the Rev. Amaury Tañon Santos, director of the Schenectady Community Ministries. Amaury chats with us about systemic poverty, racism, and classism, breaking the binaries of us/ them, yes/ no, and serving/ served, what the Gospel of John teaches us about relationships, and how meaningful dialogue changes communities. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-04-171h 06
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersJesu, Jesu with West McNeillOur friend West talks to us about the history of the Poor People's Campaign and the Labor-Religion Coalition, their leadership role in both, their upbringing as a PK, systemic poverty, white nationalism, and what faith communities can do to serve their neighbor. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-04-031h 04
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersHis Eye Is on the Sparrow with Stephen CadyStephen Cady, senior pastor of Asbury First United Methodist Church in Rochester, NY, talks to us about the importance of grace, what life may be like after this Methodist divorce, and what young people are looking for in the Church. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-03-271h 02
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersGod of Grace and God of Glory with David HaywardNatalie and Jess chat with the incredible David Hayward, better known by his pen name, the Naked Pastor. Artist, author, and former Presbyterian pastor from Canada, David talks to us about taking the Church outside of its four walls, overcoming systemic prejudice and oppression, embracing change over death, and engaging in deep conversation through cartoons. You can check out David's work at www.nakedpastor.com. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-03-201h 10
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersRock of Ages with Mark BrummittFor this episode we are joined by our Old Testament professor from our seminary days, Dr. Mark Brummitt: Hebrew Bible expert, thespian, writer, a great from Britain, and a generally delightful human. We cover all kinds of ground together: the many names for the Hebrew Scriptures and the loadedness they bear, the body of God, GLBTQIA clobber passages, detachment as a spiritual discipline, appreciating antiquity, and making peace with what we don’t know about the Sacred. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bo...
2023-03-131h 20
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersHope of the World with Jamaica MilesIn this special episode, Natalie chats with her friend and neighbor Jamaica Miles, co-founder of a local grassroots organization called All of Us that fights for racial justice. Jamaica shares that as a child she asked "why are all the angels white?" Natalie and Jamaica talk about white flight, the perils of capitalism, what white folx can do to help their BIPOC neighbors in our mutual fight for an equal world, and the hope we find in our children. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get...
2023-03-0646 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersO Young and Fearless Prophet with Diana Butler BassWe are SO excited to share this wonderful interview with the dynamic badass that is Diana Butler Bass! Diana chats with us about spiritual courage, bringing all living generations together in the Kin-dom of God (or maybe the Republic of Heaven), her book _Freeing Jesus_, the world's plague of sexism, and the unending circle of God's people. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-02-271h 42
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersO, For a Thousand Tongues to Sing with Carmen PerryThe Rev. Carmen Perry, UMC Elder, hospice chaplain, and co-chair of the UNY Board of Ordained Ministry, talks to Natalie and Jess about taking the Church outside of its walls, our discomfort with death and loss, and encouraging one another in the calling to ordained ministry. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-02-201h 02
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersLet Us Break Bread Together with Sara BaronNatalie and Emily chat with their dear friend and Natalie's closest Methodist neighbor, the Rev. Sara Baron, pastor of the First UMC of Schenectady. This chat covers all kinds of ground, from our human need to be loved for who we are, to microaggressions and Deborah Tannen's "Marked Woman", to the core of Sara's call, to make the Church a safe and welcoming place for all. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-02-1350 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersLift Up Your Heads, Ye Mighty Gates with Matt CutlerRabbi Matt Cutler of the Congregation Gates of Heaven in Schenectady, NY chats with Natalie and Jess about the gates of your spiritual journey, Jewish mysticism, antisemitism in America and how we can support our Jewish neighbors, and how no one likes change except a wet baby. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-02-061h 10
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersBlessed Assurance with Grace Wilgefortis FerrisMother Grace Wilgefortis Ferris, CACINA priest, co-pastor of the St. John of God, and founder of the St. Wilgefortis TransMISSION, opens up about her calling as a trans clergywoman, LGBTQIA inclusion in Church and society, biblical womanhood, "clobber verses", and how we should love one another. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-01-301h 00
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersThis Little Light of Mine with Michelle George YatesWe joyously share the very first interview we ever recorded, with our very dear friend, the Rev. Michelle George Yates. Michelle is an ordained minister in the Unitarian Universalist tradition, serving at the First Universalist Church in Rochester, NY. Michelle talked to us about rethinking Sunday School, renewing our promise to God to care for creation, and "loving the hell out of the world". This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-01-231h 03
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersLet There Be Peace on Earth with Harold WheatOur dear friend Rev. Harold Wheat, who serves two churches in Binghamton, NY, shares his thoughts about the importance of Sabbath keeping, finding joy in personal spiritual practices, and Jesus' nonviolent love ethic. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-01-1656 min
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersFor the Beauty of the Earth with Jeremiah LennoxThe Rev. Jeremiah Lennox, Druid priest and founder of Nemeton of the Ways, talks to Natalie about the fight for equal rights, sacred reciprocity, our Earth Mother's love of diversity, and the Holy being as close as your beating heart. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-01-091h 05
Dangerous Liberal Lady PreachersWe Gather Together with Natalie, Jess, and EmilyHello world! We're on the air! We recorded this special introductory episode so you all could get to know us, where and how we serve, and what we're all about! Join us for a discussion of postpartum depression, healthcare injustice, deconstructing theology, privilege, and finding the Holy in the midst of it all. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dangerousliberalladypreachers.substack.com
2023-01-041h 16