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Making the FanMaking the FanPortals: The Best Tool to Reduce Friction in Your Customer JourneyEpisode 002: David Millay (https://twitter.com/davidmillay) and Troy Campbell get into the science of anticipation, emo Jimmy Butler, AI for experiential marketing gone wrong, and how Portals help transform customers’ mindsets to enjoy your product more. Want to talk to David? Email him at davidm@engagemintpartners.com—Show Themes:Humor in Marketing: Learn about the role of humor in marketing, with a nod to Fall Out Boy’s music video featuring Jimmy Butler.Cultural Phenomena & Diverse Ideas: A deep dive into why embracing a variety of ideas is crucial for succes...2024-04-0455 minMaking the FanMaking the FanThe Secret Strategy Disney Uses to Create FansEpisode 001: An introduction to the show Making the Fan w/ David Millay. A show where we explore how brands turn casual customers into faithful fans, and employees into evangelists. David shares his experience going through Traditions, Disney's 8-hour, new employee onboarding course, and unpacks how Disney uses Traditions to create emotional connections with employees. This episode serves as a preview of future episodes, discussing who the show is for and the problem it seeks to solve. Helping culturally curious marketers and operators turn casual customers into faithful fans. —Check Out David...2024-04-0309 minMaking the FanMaking the FanNever Lose an Employee Again w/ Joey ColemanJoey Coleman, one of the world's leading experts on employee experience, reveals practical strategies that will teach you exactly how to recruit top talent, bring them onboard successfully, and keep them engaged while they produce remarkable results for years to come.Finding and keeping quality employees is one of the greatest challenges facing businesses today. With more people quitting their jobs each month than ever before and employees demanding flexibility, freedom, and advancement, companies are struggling to build a foundation with new hires that leads to long-term commitment. To effectively combat the hiring crisis and remain competitive...2023-06-291h 17Making the FanMaking the FanHow Mentor Managers Inspire Employees to "Love it Here" w/ Clint PulverAfter more than 220 undercover interviews with 12,000 employees, Clint Pulver is known as the leading authority on employee retention.  In this episode, David and Clint discuss the key attributes of mentor managing and the 5 Cs of leadership that result in employees saying, “I Love it Here.”-----2:24     The Undercover Millennial Program5:49     Behind the Book “I Love It Here”9:24     The 4 Types of Managers17:36   Assessing Your Leadership - The 5 Cs21:43   Leading Through Transitions - Status Interviews25:43   Finding Purpose27:56   Advocating vs. Developing32:06   The Power of Purpose34:46   I...2023-02-1450 minMaking the FanMaking the FanInfluencing the Guest Experience from the Frontlines w/ Vanessa WardIn this episode, David Millay sits down with Vanessa Ward, Vice President of Event Service for the Phoenix Suns. Before joining the Suns, Vanessa spent time at Disney, launching the Guest Experience Center, and the Chicago Cubs, overseeing the Guest and Associate Experience.  Understanding that the employee experience directly impacts the guest experience, Vanessa shares tactics on communicating significant changes from event to event, making events unique for the staff and how to develop niche service programs.-----3:17    Takeaways and Key Learnings from Disney6:09    The Service Recovery Toolkit10:42  Building a New Servic...2023-02-0755 minMaking the FanMaking the FanDiscovering the STORY Behind SuperfandomPreviously on Flip the Switch, Brittany Hodak shared her ‘SUPER’ framework that brands can leverage to increase loyalty and fandom. With her new book, Creating Superfans coming out today (January 10), David Millay welcomes Brittany back to the show to discuss new frameworks and models that small businesses and global brands everywhere can implement to convert customers and employees into superfans.-----2:29     Creating Superfans Podcast6:53     SUPER Framework Overview9:57     Ladder to Superfandom (Customer Apathy)19:57   STORY framework25:04   Getting to Know Your Customer’s Story28:13   Digging into Customer Struggles30:42   Pitch...2023-01-1051 minMaking the FanMaking the FanCultivating Meaningful Conversations Through Social w/ Brooke SellasIn today’s episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy are joined by Brooke Sellas, Digital Customer Experience Specialist and CEO of B Squared Media.  With more than 15 years of marketing experience and 10 in social media management, Brooke recently authored a new book, "Conversations That Connect."  We dive into several tactics and strategies from the book, demonstrating the value of social media listening to connect with, converse with and convert customers. -----Show Notes2:52     The CF Community Bar Crawl7:12     Social Penetration Theory8:52     Social Cliches10:40   Getting and Giving Opinions...2022-10-1855 minMaking the FanMaking the FanInspiring Impactful Change w/ Guido D'EliaTo orchestrate a compelling game day experience for all fans requires thinking more like a play caller, an offensive coordinator, rather than simply directing a run of show.  In this episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy sit down with Guido D’Elia, a consultant in strategic communications and college athletics game day experience.  As Penn State’s Director of Football Branding and Communications, Guido was the mastermind behind the “Penn State Whiteout”, an experiment that has resulted in one of the greatest game day experiences in college football. Through insights from the Whiteout, we unpack how to deeper engage your fans...2022-09-2751 minMaking the FanMaking the FanHow to Incite Loyalty and Increase Customer Retention w/ Ed FrameIt’s 5x cheaper to retain an existing customer than acquire a new one and increasing retention by 5% can increase profits by 25 - 95%. Yet so many companies still prioritize customer acquisition over retention.  In this episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy sit down with Ed Frame, CEO and Founder of Exemplify CX and discuss his 7-phase approach to Customer Longevity, converting buyers into repeat customers and brand advocates.  —--Show Notes2:35     About Exemplify and the Retention Funnel3:59     Working Backwards - The Ideal Customer Experience7:49     The 7 Phases of Customer Retent...2022-09-1350 minMaking the FanMaking the FanReframing Retreats & Resetting Your Operation w/ David Millay and Katie RudyIn the daily grind, it’s hard to find time to work on the business when you are working in the business.   Staff retreats offer teams the opportunity to reset, reframe the operation and define goals for a new chapter.  In this episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy break down approaches to team retreats and key activities to include to break the cycle and improve your operation.We cover:Defining goals of the retreatsEstablishing success metricsEvaluating realities of your industryThe role of a facilitator——To find out how we ca...2022-07-1225 minMaking the FanMaking the FanThe Parallels Between Rabid Fandoms and Religions w/ Jodi Eichler-LevineTaking a non-traditional exploration of fandom, today’s episode features Jodi Eichler-Levine, who studies the parallels between classic religions and fan cultures.  After learning of Jodi's research from her a Twitter-trending analysis on “Disney adults” or “Disney-files”, David and Jodi take a deeper dive into the principles that Disney has utilized to create evangelists of their brand and the strategies and tactics brands can adapt to their organization to inspire their own fanatics.  —--Show Notes3:52      The Foundation of Jodi’s Research6:00      The 3 Parallels7:28      Story12:11   Core Memories with Disney2022-07-0657 minMaking the FanMaking the FanWhat Drives Customers to Buy w/ Katelyn BourgoinBefore the “driveway to driveway” customer journey begins, there’s the whole buying process.  What prompted the customer to consider your brand, product or service? What motivated them to complete the purchase?  This week, we’re jumping into the psychology behind why people buy with Katelyn Bourgoin, CEO of Customer Camp.  Katelyn and David hit on the journey before the journey, the four key trigger events that lead to purchases and solutions companies have created by truly listening to their customers.-----Show Notes0:00    Introduction2:30    The...2022-06-2749 minMaking the FanMaking the FanThe 5 Key Elements Impacting Powerful Customer Experiences w/ Elizabeth DixonTo design a first-class customer experience, it starts with the mindset, the stories we’re telling ourselves internally and the framework for how we’re viewing the world and aligning it with what we want to create for people around us.In this episode, David sits down with Elizabeth Dixon, entrepreneur and business leader at Elizabeth Dixon Speaks.  Elizabeth has worked for or alongside several customer-centric organizations, including her current role of Principal Lead of Strategy, Hospitality and Service Design at Chick-fil-A corporate.  Combining best practices and insights from her career, Elizabeth shares the 5 key elements of a grea...2022-06-2049 minMaking the FanMaking the FanHow the Savannah Bananas Create the 'Greatest Show Possible' w/ Jesse ColeOur first three-peat on the show, we welcome back Jesse Cole, owner of the Savannah Bananas.  In previous episodes, David and Jesse have jammed and brainstormed, but in this show, we unpack the Bananas’ 5-E-Framework that has propelled their Fans First model into a global phenomenon.  What the Bananas lack in detailed processes and metrics, they make up for in intentionality, in-depth knowledge of their product and fans and the impression they leave through every step of the in-person and virtual experience.  -----Show Notes4:04    Fans First: The Savannah Bananas Story5...2022-06-1353 minMaking the FanMaking the FanCreating a More Captivating Customer Service Training w/ David Millay and Katie RudyCustomer service training shouldn't be something you have to do, but something you get to do, to empower the event staffs that serve your fans and represent your brand.  In this episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy break down the the key components, resources and best practices to running a more captivating training.We cover: In-person vs. virtual formatsTraining mindsets Inspirational vs. instructional content Who should be invited and ideal activities for different sized-groups -----Inspired to transform your training?  Get started with this event staff service training toolkit, chock full of the...2022-06-0230 minMaking the FanMaking the FanHow to Become Customer-Centric vs. Customer-Focused w/ Annette FranzThe terms “customer-focused” and “customer-centric” are often used interchangeably, but there are distinct differences from how an organization is culturally structured to how they serve their customers.In this week’s episode, Annette Franz joins David Millay to discuss her latest book, “Built to Win: Designing a Customer-Centric Culture that Drives Value for Your Business” and the 10 principles to become a more customer-centric organization.—--Show Notes2:20     Customer-Focused vs. Customer-Centric Organizations4:37   Where Customer-Focused Organizations Fall Short8:05     Making the Flip to Being Customer-Centric13:35   The 10 Principles of Customer-C...2022-05-1651 minMaking the FanMaking the FanDriving Deeper Engagement Through Digital Activations (Part Two) w/ Nick LawsonNick Lawson, Co-Founder and CEO of SQWAD rejoins the podcast to discuss the current state of the digital space, sponsorship activations and fan engagement.  With much to cover, we split this conversation into two episodes.  Listen to the first episode here.In part two, we jump back into the conversation with David Millay and Nick discussing the problems with sponsorship and the deep dive that SQWAD has done to solve them.  This episode features strategies and tactics to help organizations and sponsors develop successful campaigns that meet the four steps of awareness, engagement, action and retargeting.  2022-05-0944 minMaking the FanMaking the FanDriving Deeper Engagement Through Digital Activations (Part One) w/ Nick LawsonNick Lawson, Co-Founder and CEO of SQWAD, joined David Millay on Flip the Switch on March 1, 2020 to discuss the role of digital activations in sports sponsorship.  Just two weeks after, that episode became a playbook as sports leagues and teams turned to digital and virtual platforms to engage brands and fans throughout the pandemic.  Two years later, we invited Nick back to discuss the current state of the digital space, sponsorship activations and fan engagement.  With much to cover, we split this conversation into two episodes.-----Show Notes0:00   Intr...2022-05-0548 minMaking the FanMaking the FanAligning Strategy, Culture and Leadership w/ Len PernaIn today’s episode, David is joined by Len Perna, Chairman and CEO of TurnkeyZRG.  Having managed more than 1,400 executive searches, from coaches to middle management to executive leaders, Len shares how his talent advisory firm aligns clients on strategy and cultural fit with the current marketplace, the key attributes they look for in leaders and the “Moneyball” methodology they use to evaluate candidates.-----Show Notes2:54   Evolution of TurnkeyZRG5:02   Solving People Problems6:55   Integrating a New Leader in the Culture 9:14   Identifying Candidates to Fit Future Cultures 2022-04-2049 minMaking the FanMaking the FanThe Core Principles Driving Employee Motivation w/ Dr. Scott RigbySalary increases and rewards have their place, but to inspire connection and tenure with your employees requires more. In this episode, David Millay and Dr. Scott Rigby, Founder and CEO of Immersyve and MotivationWorks, dive into self-determination theory, employees’ three basic needs and the obstacles employers must overcome to motivate their teams long-term.  -----Show Notes2:41   Background on Immersyve 4:35   Self-Determination Theory6:33   Motivation Myths10:00   The Need to Believe14:12   The Need to Belong15:21   The Need to Succeed17:10   Connecting Purpose to Individu...2022-04-1154 minMaking the FanMaking the FanHarnessing the True Power of Community in Your Fanbase w/ Christina GarnettThe power of community emerges when companies embrace the directional relationship members form not just with their brand, but with other members.  In this episode, Christina Garnett, senior marketing manager for offline community and advocacy at HubSpot, joins David to talk about the magic of tapping into common passions and making your fans the hero of the story. ---Show Notes2:21  Community vs. Audience4:47  The Road to HubSpot8:59  Gleaning Community Insights from Gary V11:54  Bored Ape’s Country Club13:59  The HubFans Community 15:20  T...2022-04-0454 minMaking the FanMaking the FanThe Best Lessons We Learned in 100 Podcasts w/ David Millay and Katie RudyRecently, we hit 100 episodes of Flip the Switch.  In this bonus edition, David Millay and Katie Rudy issue superlative awards to their favorite takeaways and break down the trends, experiments, and leadership lessons that have influenced their work with EngageMint. *We’re a little off on some numbers in the episode but we have them all linked here*Most Fun: Jesse Cole - Ep. 14 Fans First | Ep. 44 A Culture of ExperimentationRachel Jacobson - Ep. 65 High Speed, High Tech and High GrowthTaught Us th...2022-02-2442 minMaking the FanMaking the FanEvoking Emotional Connections with Fans Through Content w/ Zhaneé AndersonWhen we think about the fan experience today, it’s not just about their experience at a live event but how they interact directly and indirectly, how they engage and connect with your brand emotionally 24/7.  This episode, we are joined by rising star Zhaneé Anderson from the University of Texas creative team.  Throughout the conversation, David and Zhaneé touch on creating for different brands and audiences, developing emotional engaging stories and infusing personal styles into content.  -----Show Notes3:12   Learning About a Brand’s Voice and Audience8:01   Balancing t...2022-02-2145 minMaking the FanMaking the FanTurning Ordinary Game Days Into Extraordinary Experiences w/ David Millay and Katie RudyIt’s Super Bowl week and 70,000 fans will fill SoFi Stadium for that “bucket list” experience. The average sports fan may not witness a World Series, College Football Playoff or Super Bowl in person.  In this episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy discuss some of their favorite sporting events and how a focus on hospitality, premium spaces, concessions offerings and pregame shows can turn an ordinary game into an extraordinary experience.  -----Have a topic you want us to go in on?  Reach out to us on Twitter @DavidMillay or @Katie_RudyConnect...2022-02-0823 minMaking the FanMaking the FanCollege Leaders | Leveraging Real-Time Data to Enhance Fan Experiences w/ Paris BuchananThis College Leaders segment of Flip the Switch features Paris Buchanan, Assistant AD for Marketing and Fan Experience for Ole Miss Athletics. Through one football season with minimal crowds, Ole Miss realized not only how much they value their home field advantage, but how to connect with Rebel fans that aren’t viewing the games in person. Paris, David Millay and Katie Rudy dive into the data driving their digital activations, in-season changes and planning for future seasons.    Show Notes2:25  The “Home Team” virtual experience5:22   Balancing the in-person and virtual...2022-01-3142 minMaking the FanMaking the FanThe Basics for Better Brainstorms w/ David Millay and Katie RudyWe’ve all been in those brainstorming sessions that consisted of more than a few blank stares or had a number of great ideas with no action steps to actually implement them.  In this episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy share some of their favorite resources and best practices to conduct an effective individual or team brainstorm session.  We cover:Myths of BrainstormingSetting the stage and framework for the brainstormProvocative prompting and challenging the status quoDefining success and following through on new ideas-----Have a topic you want us to go in on? ...2022-01-2427 minMaking the FanMaking the FanHow to Curb the Great Resignation in Your OrganizationThe Great Resignation is affecting every industry and every organization.  In collaboration with our partners at Penn State, the EngageMint team recently led a management retreat to discuss the trends and solutions to turn the "Great Attrition" into the "Great Attraction".  A more unorthodox episode, David Millay and Katie Rudy host a round table discussion with Christina Gatehouse, Assistant AD for Human Resources at Penn State to share key takeaways from the retreat.  We break down the most surprising data trends in our research, the impressionable action steps from the retreat and how you could con...2022-01-1830 minMaking the FanMaking the FanHow to Sell Experiences Over Tickets w/ Kathy BurrowsIn this episode, Kathy Burrows, president and owner of Sold Out Seating, joins David to discuss strategies and tactics to shift from selling tickets to selling experiences.  Selling an experience doesn’t mean selling the pomp and circumstance and atmosphere around the game, but delivering a game day experience that fits each customer.  To implement that shift, Kathy and David dive into new benchmarks, how to develop and mentor sales staff and how to personalize an event experience for different segments.  Show Notes2:40     From Nursing to Founding Sold Out Seating6:19     Applying Ca...2022-01-1052 minMaking the FanMaking the FanWhy I Spent $13k on a single NFTThis episode is all about NFT's and why our host, David Millay, spent $13k on a single NFT. It's a much more casual episode than usual with holidays upon us, and we invited some of David's friends from his Disney days to unpack why the hell he would make such an investment.  We end up discussing the potential utility of an NFT, future potential use cases, and their potential role in fandom and the sports & entertainment industry. Special thanks to Martin Graham and Jerome Scherwin2021-12-3035 minMaking the FanMaking the FanHow to Never Lose a Customer Again w/ Joey ColemanChief Experience Composer and Best-Selling Author Joey Coleman joins David to talk about how to “Never Lose a Customer Again.”  In this episode, Joey breaks down the 8 phases of the customer and employee experience from his book: Assess, Admit, Affirm, Activate, Acclimate, Accomplish, Adopt and Advocate.  Organizations often focus on a couple, but paying attention to all eight sequentially leads to retention, additional sales and referrals.  Show Notes4:01    Get Straight As from Your Customers - the 8 Phases11:50   Applying the 8 Phases to Different Customer Journeys14:23   Fostering the Experience for the First T...2021-12-2154 minMaking the FanMaking the FanUncovering The 5 Languages of Appreciation in the Workplace w/ Dr. Paul WhiteThe “Great Resignation” or “Great Migration” has incited a movement by employees to find roles where they feel valued and appreciated.  But not everyone wants to be recognized or shown appreciation in the same way.  In this episode, David sits down with Dr. Paul White, author of “The 5 Languages of Appreciation in the Workplace”, to talk about how to show appreciation for your staff in ways that are meaningful to them.  Show Notes2:55     Refocusing on Employee Engagement 5:18      The Great Resignation or the Great Migration?6:26      Recognize the Person, Not Just Their Work2021-12-0652 minMaking the FanMaking the FanElevating the Voice of the Fan w/ Chief Fan Officer Shawn McIntoshIn this episode, David sits down with Shawn McIntosh, Charlotte FC’s Chief Fan Officer, the first role of its kind in any professional league.  Throughout the conversation, Shawn shares his strategies and tactics for building relationships with Charlotte FC supporters and community leaders and bringing that voice to the table in internal club meetings.Show Notes3:06        What is a Chief Fan Officer?4:25       Sharing the fans’ voice with Charlotte FC’s senior leaders7:29       Shawn’s background and fit for the Chief Fan Officer role10:12    Bridging the gap between fan desires...2021-11-1558 minMaking the FanMaking the FanCollege Leaders | Celebrating and Amplifying Your Unique Culture w/ Bryan BlairThis College Leaders segment features Bryan Blair, Deputy Athletic Director and Chief Operating Officer at Washington State University.  In the four years that Bryan and his team have been in Pullman, they’ve worked to build a culture that highlights and celebrates what is unique about Wazzou.  Bryan and David hit on hiring coaches and staff that are cultural fits, embracing your identity and taking risks to move college athletics forward.----Show Notes2:31    Balancing Performance and Culture in Coaching Hires6:21    Marrying a Coach’s Culture with the Depart...2021-11-0440 minMaking the FanMaking the FanBeing Present, Authentic and Intentional w/ Scott O'NeilThis episode features industry legend Scott O’Neil.  In his most recent role, Scott was the CEO of Harris Blitzer Sports and Entertainment, overseeing the New Jersey Devils and the Philadelphia 76ers.  Prior to that, he held positions of Senior Vice President of the NBA’s Team Marketing and Business Operations division and President of Madison Square Garden Sports.  Throughout the podcast, Scott charmed us with stories as he and David dive into a number of insights that influenced his career and became the foundation for his new book, “Be Where Your Feet Are: Seven Principles to Keep You...2021-10-2551 minMaking the FanMaking the FanCollege Leaders | Speaking the Fans' Love Language w/ Jamie PollardThis week we're joined by Jamie Pollard, Director of Athletics at Iowa State University.  Since his arrival in 2005, he has re-imagined almost every facet of the department, leading the Cyclones to records in attendance and ticket sales and academic scores and some of their highest finishes in the Learfield Directors' Cup.  His leadership extends throughout the industry as he was recently named NACDA President of the Year for 2021-22.  In this episode, Jamie and David break down how Iowa State approaches its fan experience by "speaking the fans' love language" and Jamie's entrepreneur-like leadership mentality. Show Not...2021-10-1451 minMaking the FanMaking the FanMaking Your Customer Experience Remarkable w/ Dan GingissThis episode of Flip the Switch features Customer Experience Coach, Keynote Speaker and Author Dan Gingiss.  Dan's latest book, "The Experience Maker," comes out today, featuring his "WISE" framework and stories from 20 years of experience working with brands, including McDonald's, Discover and Humana.  Throughout the episode, Dan and David discuss simple, yet remarkable ways to enhance your engagement with your customers.-----Show Notes2:26  The Experiences Customers Want to Talk About4:20  The Framework for Becoming "WISE"6:45  Be “Witty”12:05  Genuine Social Media Interactions - The Green Skittles S...2021-09-1449 minMaking the FanMaking the FanCollege Leaders | Catering to Wants and Needs of Fans w/ Eric NicholsJoining us on today's episode is Eric Nichols, the Senior Associate Athletics Director for Marketing and Branding/Chief Marketing Officer at the University of South Carolina. Nichols oversees Marketing, Digital and Social Media, and the University band and spirit programs as well as serving as the primary liaison for Licensing, merchandise sales, and outsourced entities including Learfield for multimedia rights and Learfield Ticket Solutions for outbound sales.Eric and David discuss innovation around customer and employee experience within college athletics. From some of the changes South Carolina has been working on over the pandemic and are now...2021-09-0751 minMaking the FanMaking the FanStudying the Subconscious and Emotions of Fandom w/ Peter SorckoffToday’s episode is all about appealing to the emotional side of fandom with Peter Sorckoff.  What started as a career in a therapeutic environment has evolved into 20 plus years of understanding the human subconscious impact on fandom.  Peter leveraged those insights to create immersive marketing and branding experiences for major brands in the NBA, the MLB and NHL, most notably as the Chief Creative Officer and EVP of Brand for the Atlanta Hawks.  Now, Peter is applying similar concepts to other industries, including aviation and retail, through his company, Seer.This podcast goes in-depth on building exper...2021-08-3058 minMaking the FanMaking the FanCollege Leaders | Using Data and Tech to Amplify the '12th Man' Tradition w/ Michael ThompsonMichael Thompson joins David for this week’s College Leaders podcast.  After nine years at Ole Miss, Michael reunited with Ross Bjork at Texas A&M in October of 2019 as the Deputy Athletics Director for External Relations and Business Development.  His innovative leadership has led to appointments as the 2020-21 NACMA President and membership in the SEC’s fan experience working group.  His team also won the 2019 NACDA Technology Innovation Award.   Counting down the days to football at Kyle Field, Michael shares his framework for keeping the 12th Man traditions sacred while employing data and new technology to evolve...2021-08-261h 08Making the FanMaking the FanComparing Fandoms in Western Markets and China w/ Greg TurnerIn this episode, David is joined by Greg Turner to dive in to the differences in fandoms and live events between China and the West.  What started as a summer internship for Greg has evolved into a 20-year career in China, moving from agencies to live events and venue management, before establishing his own company, Shenzhen High Performance Event Management.  Compared to most of our fan bases that have existed for decades, live events have only been a regular part of the Chinese culture for the last 20 years.  Throughout this podcast, Greg shares a number of...2021-08-1855 minMaking the FanMaking the FanAll About NFTs and Miami’s CanesVaultThe University of Miami became the first college athletic department to break into the NFT space, announcing the new CanesVault this week that will officially open on August 16. In this episode, Dan Boyd, Miami's Senior Associate AD for Sales and Marketing and Jon Parise, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of GigLabs, Miami's NFT partner,  join David to discuss the strategies and behind-the-scenes conversations leading to this innovative launch.-----Show Notes7:16    Building the Hurricanes Legacy9:13    Breaking into the NFT Game11:13  Miami’s Partnerships with Gig Labs and Black Madre2021-08-141h 05Making the FanMaking the FanCollege Leaders | The Importance of Strategic Planning and Core Values w/ Colorado's Rick GeorgeThis week’s special College Leaders segment features Rick George, Athletic Director at University of Colorado.  Rick had a rather unorthodox path to the big chair, taking on roles with the PGA Champions Tour and the Texas Rangers’ Front Office, before returning to the collegiate industry with Colorado in 2013.  Throughout this episode, Rick and David discuss Colorado’s strategic plans, its "RAPID" core values and the importance of incremental revenue generation.  --Show Notes(2:56) The Path Less Traveled to the Big Chair(6:49) Erasing “Dark” Days & Creating “Folsom Field Events” 2021-08-0851 minMaking the FanMaking the FanBONUS | Diving Deep on Books and Reading Strategies w/ Justin DohertyThis week’s episode strays from our usual podcast pattern.  David is joined by Justin Doherty, Wisconsin's Senior Associate AD for External Communications and member of EngageMint's tribe.  Outside of his roles in brand communications, marketing, video services and facility branding, Justin has authored four books on Wisconsin history.  David and Justin have embarked on a 25-book challenge and share some of their top hits and reading strategies in this bonus episode.  --Show Notes4:14     Diving in to Justin’s Books6:03     Reading vs. Writing Note Taking13:46  The 2021 25-Book Challenge2021-08-0244 minMaking the FanMaking the FanCapitalizing on New Tech to Transform Fan Engagement w/ John KosnerIn our latest podcast, David sits down with John Kosner.  After 20 years at ESPN, where he transformed its digital media strategy, John co-founded Micromanagement Ventures with former NBA Commissioner David Stern. John currently leads Kosner Media, where he invests in and advises sports tech companies focused on sports media, sports betting and gambling and player development.  This episode covers all things sports tech, truth speaking and leadership and the future of sports broadcasting.--Show Notes(4:00)  Forming Micromanagement Ventures with David Stern(15:04)  Importance of Humor in t...2021-07-2657 minMaking the FanMaking the FanCollege Leaders | The "Glocalization" of Sport and Immersive Fan Experiences w/ Rick BurtonA long-time sports executive, Rick Burton brings a breadth of experience and insights to this week’s podcast.  After roles in brand management with Miller Lite, a stint as commissioner of the National Basketball League in Australia and Chief Marketing Officer for the 2008 Beijing Olympics, Rick has spent the last 12 years at Syracuse University as the David B. Falk Professor of Sport Management and Faculty Athletics Representative.  He's also co-authored three books and contributes regularly to Sports Business Journal, as well as Sportico and Sports Business.    This episode goes deep on all of Rick’s specialties - sports ma...2021-07-221h 01Making the FanMaking the FanCollege Leaders | Dreaming Big with DePaul's DeWayne PeevyFlip the Switch is all about uncovering the latest trends in sports and entertainment and the experiments organizations are running.  Working alongside college athletic departments has inspired a new series: Flip the Switch - College Leaders.  Joining David on the show will be senior leaders who are transforming the industry and implementing those trends and experiments.  Our first guest of the series is DeWayne Peevy, Vice President and Director of Athletics at DePaul University.  Peevy became AD in September of 2020, after 12 years at Kentucky, including the last 7 as Deputy AD.  In this episode, DeWayne shares his e...2021-07-171h 00Making the FanMaking the FanTrusted Strategic Advisors in College Athletics w/ Dan Gale and Tim RebichFor our second Flip the Switch Live episode, we are joined by Dan Gale of Leona Marketing Group and Tim Rebich of Varsity Partners.  Sharing their perspectives as third-parties in the college athletics space, this episode is more idea-based than best practices focused.  Dan, Tim and David forecast where college athletics is headed and the impacts NIL and multimedia sponsorship will have on the industry.Show Notes10:28 - Introducing Dan Gale and Tim Rebich17:09 - Embracing NIL and Fair Market Value22:49 - Creating Endemic Brand Experiences...2021-06-301h 07Making the FanMaking the FanHow to Cultivate SUPER Fans with Brittany HodakJoining the show this week is Brittany Hodak.  Recently named Chief Experience Officer at Experience.com, Brittany shares her frameworks that organizations can adopt to cultivate super fans and experiences.  Prior to joining Experience.com, Brittany co-founded a marketing and collectibles company ZinePak (later named The Superfan Company), which was featured on Shark Tank and earned one of the highest valuations in show history.   She exited in 2019 to focus full-time on speaking and consulting with organizations to harness the passion within fans.David and Brittany set their rivalry aside to dive in to Brittany's SUPER strategy and foc...2021-05-2455 minMaking the FanMaking the FanTurn Fans Into Customers with David Meerman ScottToday's episode is all about turning fans into customers and customers into fans.  David sits down with internationally-known author, advisor, educator and speaker David Meerman Scott.  Scott co-wrote his latest book, Fanocracy: Turning Fans Into Customers and Customers into Fans, with his daughter Reiko Scott.  Fanocracy unearths the science behind building emotional connections in your tribe and marketing lessons learned from fandoms outside of sports, including the Grateful Dead.  The show takes a deep dive on applying those lessons to cultivating stronger experiences and relationships with your fanbase.Show Notes3:16      Defining Fandom6:15 ...2021-05-0352 minMaking the FanMaking the FanNIL & NFTs w/ Luka GarzaIn today's episode, David is joined by Luka Garza, starting center for the Iowa Hawkeyes,  AP College Basketball Player of the Year, and winner of the 2021 Naismith Trophy. They discuss name, image, and likeness, the launch of Luka's new NFT company LukaGarzaNFTGroup.io and how Luka hopes to provide opportunities for college athletes to monetize their brand, and the importance of college athletes being able to control their own brand.Show Notes:5:11 Digital Engagement Fan Support during 2020-216:56 Breaking into the NFT game2021-04-2827 minMaking the FanMaking the FanOpening a Multi-Billion $ Venue with No FansToday’s episode is all about Guest Service vs. Guest Experience and Designing Customer Experiences in New VenuesOn this episode, David sits down with Kameron Durham, Vice President of Guest Experience for the entire entertainment footprint of Hollywood Park, including SoFi Stadium, the brand new home of the Los Angeles Rams and Los Angeles Chargers.  Prior to this role, he was the Director of Guest Services for the Seattle Mariners and the San Diego Padres.  In its first year, SoFi Stadium did not host any fans due to the COVID-19 pandemic.  In lieu of guest...2021-04-121h 01Making the FanMaking the FanFinding The Right Sponsorships for YOUR fans w/ Rob Temple and Rick JonesIn today's episode, David sits down with two industry legends Rob Temple, Chief Executive Officer at FishBait Solutions, LLC and Rick Jones, Captain, Creative Director and Shareholder at FishBait Solutions, LLC. When combining Rick's creative mind for amazing corporate sponsorship ideas and insights and Rob's previous 20-year experience as ESPN's Senior Vice President of Sports Marketing the two bring a powerhouse of knowledge into this episode. The three get into sponsorships and how to find the right corporate partners to connect with your unique fans. Show Notes6:30  The Evolution and New Vision of...2021-04-071h 05Making the FanMaking the FanAmaze Your Customers and Fans w/ Shep HykenOur guest today is Shep Hyken, a customer service and experience expert and the Chief Amazement Officer of Shepard Presentations.  Shep works with companies and organizations that want to build loyal relationships with their customers and employees. His articles have been read in hundreds of publications, and he is the author of "Amaze Every Customer Every Time," "Moments of Magic," "The Loyal Customer," "The Cult of the Customer" and "The Amazement Revolution." Shep, KG, and David cover everything from designing an organization's purpose to how customer service has changed for the future due to the pandemic.2021-03-121h 04Making the FanMaking the FanFind Your SPARK w/ Simon T. BaileyJoin David and KG as they chat with guest Simon T. Bailey,  a motivational speaker, author, and life coach. Simon's content revolves around purpose, leadership, and inspiration. David and KG get into Simon's experiences through these lenses and how it ties into customer service. Show Notes:(5:26)  Making Organizations Sizzle: The Power of Leadership, Culture, and Consistency(6:52)  Culture is not the Mission and Vision statement on the website; it’s what lives in the head and hearts of those doing the work (8:35)  How leaders can ins...2021-03-0151 minMaking the FanMaking the FanMaking Swag Easy w/ Jeremy ParkerIn today's episode, David sits down with guest Jeremy Parker, Co-Founder and CEO at Swag.com.  With the attitude of learning as you go and reinventing your space, Jeremy discusses his journey in founding Swag.com and the ideas and concepts behind customer pain points. (4:41)Defining “Swag”(5:50)Jeremy’s journey from film major to Swag.com(9:11)The challenges of the licensing landscape in college athletics(11:44)How could we reinvent the collegiate licensing business?(14:35)Just get it out the door - launc...2021-02-2255 minMaking the FanMaking the FanShifting Perspectives for Customer-Centric Marketing w/ Elisa PadillaOn today's episode, David and KG are joined by guest Elisa Padilla, former Senior Vice President, Creative Strategy & Partnership Marketing for Roc Nation, and former Senior Vice President of Marketing for the Miami Marlins. Elisa, David, and KG talk about customer-centric marketing and how the way you lead and the perspectives you shift allow you to achieve it more successfully.  Show Notes:(06:52) Infusing the Jay-Z “Star” mentality from “Street to Seat”(10:51) Walking the walk over and over again - creating sensory experiences in Barclays Center(14:28...2021-02-171h 02Making the FanMaking the FanDesigning Effective Remote Work Teams w/ Steph SmithIn today's episode, Steph Smith, Head of Trends.co at the Hustle and Founder of Integral Labs, joins the show.  Steph and David discuss the ideas and insights of how to build a more effective team in both a remote work or hybrid environment. Show Notes:(6:54) The bell curve of giving and taking - amplifying giving in remote work(10:54) How to encourage giving behavior(15:50) What benefits can organizations now offer to entice the best talent?(18:05) Applying the “First Principles” to yo...2021-02-021h 01Making the FanMaking the FanUtilizing Technology to Solve Business Problems w/ Adam PolanskyIn today's episode, KG and David chat with Adam Polansky, the Group Director of Innovation at Octagon, a one of the world's biggest sports marketing agencies.  They discuss how we can use technology to innovate and ultimately create better experiences for fans and employees.Show Notes:(3:55) What is Octagon? How does the Innovation team fit within the organization structure?(5:40) What is innovation? How does Octagon define it?(7:20) The meaning of fandom and sharing that with Octagon’s clients(10:25) Creating the...2021-01-251h 02Making the FanMaking the FanThe Customer Experience Playbook w/ Jonathan DanielsJonathan Daniels, Co-Founder and Director of CX Brussels, joins us on today's episode as we go over the various steps of the "ICON Process" from his book The Customer Experience Playbook. Consisting of Initiate, Co-Create, Operationalize, and Nourish, David and Jonathan breakdown a customer experience transformation to its core and show how these fundamental CX steps can be leveraged as a growth strategy for your business. Time Stamps:(4:45) Who is Jonathan and CX Brussels?(7:47) Trends in CX conversations outside of the U.S.2020-12-2148 minMaking the FanMaking the FanImportance of Versatility and Vulnerability in LeadershipDavid Millay and Kevin Gober are back with another Jam Session as they discuss ways to create your own value and finding ways to bring that value to your organization. With Covid changing the working environment and structure, David and KG get into adapting your skillset to fit in any situation and learning universal ways to lead during the pandemic.Time Stamps:(2:00) What it’s like for sports to be back but not able to be in the building(4:30) Worries of making an impact in your organization du...2020-12-1451 minMaking the FanMaking the FanThe Future of Venue Experiences w/ Drew BerstIn today's episode, David and Kevin talk with Drew Berst about the combination of digital and physical experiences and how to infuse that in your customer experience. How will stadiums utilize their space going forward? With many stadiums transforming and restructuring their format, how can you maintain the culture and tradition while also keeping with the times and adapting to new experiences?  With covid accelerating the demand and structure of sports, how can you balance this all?Time Stamps:2:55 - Who is Drew Berst?3:43 - How Raiders are utilizing t...2020-11-2357 minMaking the FanMaking the FanGreat Leaders Establish, Operationalize, and Sustain ValuesIn the second episode of our new format with Kevin Gober, Kevin and David get into the importance of leadership and structure that top-level executives need to be taking during the ever-adapting covid and digital age.  With an overarching framework of leaders establishing, operationalizing, and sustaining the values and vision by which organizations thrive, David and Kevin discuss leaders' responsibility to help our employees in the emotional & mental, relational, physical, financial, purposeful, and employable spectrums.  From employee journey maps to improving meeting tactics, this episode gets into the ins and out of running an organization in the new di...2020-11-1042 minMaking the FanMaking the FanVirtual Fan Engagement Opportunities w/ Brad Wurthman & Chris GrosseToday’s episode is a little different than usual. This episode is the edited audio from one of our Fireside Chats, something that our invite-only community has access too. Our subject matter experts for the chat were Brad Wurthman, Senior Associate Athletics Director for External Operations at Virginia Tech and Chris Grosse, Assistant Athletics Director for Marketing at Penn State University. Brad and Chris both lead teams responsible for the fan experiences at their famous sporting venues. On a normal football Saturday, their 65k+ stadiums literally shake the ground from screaming fa...2020-10-1359 minMaking the FanMaking the FanThe Culture of a Challenger Brand w/ Scott CarrThe Deputy Athletics Director for UCF, one of the most innovative, creative, organizations in college athletics, joins us today. In his daily responsibilities, Scott has oversight of all external units, including Brand Advancement, Strategic Communications and Video Services, as well as being heavily involved in revenue generation. In a time right now where revenue is tight for all sports and live event organizations, we all need new ideas to engage our audience, our followers and our fans. And Scott’s been a key leader in an organization that has done a 180 in the last few years. On...2020-09-211h 10Making the FanMaking the FanPersonalizing the Guest Experience w/ Brian BettsOur guest today is Brian Betts, a 22+ year Disney Cast member and former executive. By trade, Brian is an industrial engineer, so this episode is going to have an analytical and methodical approach towards improving customer experience. In his career at Disney, Brian did everything from helping launch Disney Cruise Line and Disney’s Fast Pass, to overseeing experience insights within My Magic+, Disney’s mobile app and connected ecosystem. Throughout Brian’s career, he’s used analytics to optimize the guest experience, managing multi-billion dollar annual capital investments, including the development of new attractions and experiences. As part...2020-09-031h 14Making the FanMaking the FanFrom Patient Experience to Fan Experience w/ Quint StuderWe’re joined today by the legendary Quint Studer. Quint is a philanthropist, an entrepreneur, and an expert in delivering quality experiences, for customers and employees. He’s the co-owner of the double-A baseball team, the Pensacola Blue Wahoos, and the founder of the healthcare consulting group, the Studer Group.In Quint’s approach to patient experience and fan experience, it all starts with the employee experience. We'll spend the episode discussing what you can do to better engage your employees so that they can better engage your customers.  Time Stamps0:20...2020-08-2151 minMaking the FanMaking the FanAn Event with Thirty Thousand Fans Post-COVID19 w/ Drew BedardOur guest today is Drew Bedard, the Vice President of Marketing at Bristol Motor Speedway and Kentucky Speedway. On July 15, 2020, Bristol Motor Speedway hosted the NASCAR All-Star Race. The event had almost 30k fans in attendance, the largest attended event in the US since COVID cancelled sports in March 2020. As sports & entertainment venues across the US prepare to reopen, I thought it would be good for you all to hear from Drew, who’s actually done it. I think that qualifies him as the closest thing to an expert as we’ve got in this world...2020-08-0558 minMaking the FanMaking the FanSports, Resorts & Entertainment w/ Mike CrawfordToday’s guest is Mike Crawford, the President and CEO at Hall of Fame Resort & Entertainment Company. Previous to his current role, Mike held a number of leadership roles with Four Seasons Hotels & Resorts and The Walt Disney Company. At 4 Seasons, he was the President of Asia Pacific and then Portfolio Management around the world. While at the Walt Disney Company, he spent the majority of his time focused internationally. In his last role, he was the lead executive in charge of Shanghai Disneyland, including the resorts, hotels, retail, dining and entertainment district. Based on Mike...2020-07-2251 minMaking the FanMaking the FanThe Business Behind ESPN World Wide of Sports w/ Mike Millay PART 2This is second half of a two-part interview with Mike Millay. This part of the interview dives deeper into the behind-the-scenes stories at ESPN Wide World of Sports and explores Mike's own revelations as leader at Disney. Mike is the longest tenured executive in ESPN Wide World of Sports' history. He's also my Dad and a Senior Partner at EngageMint, so this was a special episode for me.The MLS kicked off it’s first game last week, and NBA players are now in the “bubble” on Disney property. As ESPN Wide World of Sports is the...2020-07-1448 minMaking the FanMaking the FanThe Business Behind ESPN Wide World of Sports w/ Mike Millay PART 1This is first half of a two-part interview with Mike Millay. This part of the sheds light on the business model powering ESPN Wide World of Sports and explores how the cultures of Disney and competitive sports merged.Our guest today is Mike Millay, the longest tenured executive in ESPN Wide World of Sports' history. He's also my Dad and a Senior Partner at EngageMint, so this was a special episode for me.The MLS kicked off it’s first game on Wednesday, and NBA players are now in the “bubble” on Disney property. As ESPN W...2020-07-1234 minMaking the FanMaking the FanCreating Moments that Matter w/ Jahaan BlakeOur guest today is Jahaan Blake, founder of The J. Blake Group. We'll cover two main topics in this epsisode. Creating infrastructure behind the scenes that allow your front-line staff to create genuine moments of connections with fansThe importance of coaching in leadershipWe spend much of the episode discussing her prior roles that led her to start her own company, primarily her roles in the MLB. Jahaan and I first met when I was with Disney Institute and Jahaan was with the Chicago Cubs, as she and her were revamping their customer service program. We...2020-07-021h 00Making the FanMaking the FanBuilding & Sustaining a Culture of Service w/ Kevin GoberOur guest today is Kevin Gober, the Sr. Director of Employee & Guest Experience for the Atlanta Hawks. Kevin and I worked together for a long time at Disney Institute, on what we informally called "the sports crew."  Kevin was on the content and facilitation side of the organization, leading and designing massive customer service trainings, whether it be for 10,000 volunteers at the Super Bowl, or for different teams in the NBA.Prior to Disney Institute, Kevin worked a variety of roles in the Parks & Resort operations. Most notably, Kevin was the head of Magic Kingdom's E...2020-06-151h 05Making the FanMaking the FanMerging Physical & Digital Worlds w/ Javier Martinez GarciaToday’s guest is Javier Martinez Garcia, a Senior Advisor for Manchester City F.C and former Disney executive. We get into a number of topics, here are just a few: 1) How to get your senior leadership team aligned around a customer-centric strategy 2) Fan experience vs. match-day experience3) Making business decisions built around your unique brand promise4) How physical and digital worlds merge to create 24/7 experiences for your customer5) The future of fan experiences in post-COVID19 world Javier has held a number of executive roles in Europe for the Wa...2020-06-051h 04Making the FanMaking the FanMeasuring Your Customer Experience w/ Moon JavaidMoon Javaid, the Vice President of Strategy and Analytics for the San Francisco 49ers, joins us. We discuss two main topics on this episode:How the 49ers are measuring their customer experience.We cover specific tools, implementation strategies, and business outcomesHow the 49ers approach creating incremental and non-traditional revenue49ers Fit - health & fitness centers owned by the 49ersElevate Sports & Entertainment - consulting and advisory partners Horizon Summit -  premier sports business, technology and analytics conference The overarching theme of this conversation is that customer drives how the 49ers approach innovation. But in order to have...2020-05-2948 minMaking the FanMaking the FanPremium Service vs. Customer Service w/ Barry JacobsonWe sat down with Barry Jacobson this week to talk about the difference between customer service and premium service.In Barry's 30+ years a Disney Cast Member, he oversaw some of the most premium experiences Walt Disney World had to offer. From the convention centers and catering to Disney's Fairy Tale Weddings, to his last role as head of Disney's Golden Oak-- a community of luxury, custom, single-family homes on Walt Disney World Resort property.In addition to his time at Disney, he took a 1 year hiatus in the middle to help Legends and the Dallas...2020-05-181h 03Making the FanMaking the FanInsight Gathering w/ Jill MarchickJill Marchick, the Vice President of Customer Insights and Engagement for the Indiana Pacers, joins us on today's episode. This is an especially relevant episode if your organization is considering putting a survey out or gathering information for how your customers feel about your organization and returning to events. And it’s even more important that you listen if you’re feeling lost about what to do with that information once you collect it.Jill and her team at Pacers Sports and Entertainment sent out one of the most comprehensive fan insights survey I've seen durin...2020-05-0951 minMaking the FanMaking the FanBuilding a Customer-Centric Business in Africa w/ Samir IbrahimIn today’s episode, we’re going outside the sports & entertainment industry. We’ll be talking about designing an entire business around customers’ deepest needs. Hopefully the wildly different context will give you new inspiration to become more customer-centric in your own organization. Today’s guest is the CEO of a solar-agriculture company, based in Kenya. So while I do the usual and try to connect the dots for you, I want you to focus on the underlying principles we talk about and less about the details.  Our guest today is Samir Ibrahim, the co-founder and CEO of S...2020-04-2457 minMaking the FanMaking the FanLeading Through Crisis w/ Doug ThorntonToday’s episode focuses on leadership during crisis. Our guest is Doug Thornton, the EVP of ASM Global. Doug oversees all Arena, Stadia and Theaters worldwide, directing the operations and financial performance of this division. We tackle questions like “how do you acknowledge your fears and anxieties without letting them weigh you down” and “how do inspire confidence in your team when you yourself don’t know what the future holds.” We’ll also get into some deeper conversations about planning your operations for the future.  Who is Doug and what makes him equipped to talk...2020-04-151h 01Making the FanMaking the FanStepping Past Your Competition w/ Justin SchneiderOur guest today is Justin Schneider. He’s the founder and CEO for Wolf & Shepherd, a rising footwear brand making high-end, performance dress shoes. We wanted to have Justin on the show for a few reasons. 1) He was a former student-athlete himself. And he shares how that experience has impacted his approach to live after sports. 2) His insights around storytelling, innovation and creating experiences that customers love are super applicable to sports & entertainment and live events. 3) I’m ready to see some variety in shoe-wear in our industry. I know people love tho...2020-04-0853 minMaking the FanMaking the FanIgnite a Culture of Innovation w/ Duncan WardleDuncan Wardle, the former Head of Creativity & Innovation at the Walt Disney Company, now helps organizations around the world embed a culture of innovation into their DNA. In our industries, we’re running from one to event to the next, and it’s easy to say  “we are too busy to think.” This episode with Duncan will provide you ways to start thinking differently. In his 30+ years at Disney, Duncan built a toolbox of creativity skills and techniques to help others turn on their innovation "light switch." He's here to share those tools with us today. ...2020-03-301h 01Making the FanMaking the FanFirst 180 Days in the Chair w/ Laird VeatchAs a senior leader, coming into a new organization can be hard. You want to understand the current culture. You want to get to know the people. You want to assess the organization's strengths and opportunities. You want to put your own stamp on "the way we do things around here" in the least intrusive way possible.Those plans can quickly go awry when you're forced to deal with unprecedented crisis right out of the gate. Our guest today, Laird Veatch, was faced with exactly that. Five weeks into his role as the Athletic Director o...2020-03-2450 minMaking the FanMaking the FanSports as a Service w/ Chris GilesSubscription models - seems like almost every industry and product has one. Except for live sports & events. But what if... In this episode, we're rethinking the entire business model of ticketing and access to sports & events. Our guest, Chris Giles, was the COO of the Oakland Athletics, where they created a first-of-its-kind membership model called A's Access. The program debuted in 2019 and has had smashing success according to a number of different metrics, from revenue growth to number of members to customer satisfaction. Instead of selling ownership of an individual seat for a season, what...2020-03-1256 minMaking the FanMaking the FanSponsorship that Engages, not Distracts w/ Nick LawsonNick Lawson, the CEO of SQWAD sits down with us to talk about the future state of sponsorship in sports. Nick's company works with sports properties around the world to help them sell more sponsorship through digital contests. What kind of contests? Could be trivia games on your team app, digital scratch and win games, or supplementing live mascot contests with a digital component. Nick is leading the shift in sports sponsorship to create ads that people actually want to see, and better yet, participate in. For those of you new to the sponsorship game, this is a...2020-03-0153 minMaking the FanMaking the FanBuilding Experience Ecosystems w/ Michael JungenDisney's Magic Band. Carnival's OceanMedallion. Our guest today was behind both industry leading tools that enabled massive experience ecosystem transformations.Forrester defines a customer experience ecosystem as “the web of relations among all aspects of a company - including its customers, employees, partners and operating environment - that determine the quality of the customer experience.” As you can imagine, building a seamless experience ecosystem is no easy task. Our guest today, Michael Jungen, has been a key senior leader on two massive experience ecosytem builds. With both Disney's Parks & Resorts and Carnival Cruise Line, Michael led t...2020-02-1958 minMaking the FanMaking the FanHow is the Culture in your Kingdom w/ Dan CockerellFor Episode 15 of Flip the Switch, we take a journey w/ our guest, Dan Cockerell, the former Vice President of Magic Kingdom. The episode’s larger theme is around leading your team and your organization with a human touch. We explore Dan’s involvement and influential role in running the Magic Kingdom theme park; we cover how to build rapport with your employees and develop a good culture; and we get an inside look on selecting the right talent.If you’re passionate about becoming a great leader and creating magical guest and employee experiences, you won’t want t...2020-02-071h 03Making the FanMaking the FanFans First w/ Jesse ColeOur guest today, Jesse Cole, is the Founder of Fans First Entertainment, Author of Find Your Yellow Tux and Owner of the Savannah Bananas, who have sold out every game for 88 straight games and has a wait-list for tickets in the thousands. How do they do it? Well, simply by being the most fan-centric organization in sports. The Bananas take it being customer-centric to the extreme. Jesse famously says about his ballpark, “it’s a circus and a baseball game breaks out.” In this episode we go under the hood of the Bananas organization to find out...2020-01-2738 minMaking the FanMaking the FanHow UGA Football & Chick-Fil-A innovate through strategy w/ Josh Brooks & Shane ToddJosh Brooks, Deputy AD at Georiga Athletics and Shane Todd, Franchise Operator at Chick-Fil-A in Athens, GA join us. The theme of today's episode explores the differences between product innovations vs. strategy innovations and how they impact your business. As you're thinking about investing time, energy and resources to improve your business, there's a temptation for us in sports to think that a new sexy product-type innovation, like a jumbotron or is going to be the enhancement that moves the needle from a customer experience perspective. But often, it's the non-sexy strategy innovations, like a grab & go c...2019-11-271h 04Making the FanMaking the FanWhat To Do When Things Go Wrong w/ Frank SupovitzToday’s guest is Frank Supovitz, who’s been changing and shaping the sports & events industries for over 30 years. We discuss planning an event that wows your customers, and all that goes into the prep of a massive live event. Frank is imminently qualified to discuss this topic, as he was the SVP of Events for the NFL from 2005 to 2014, overseeing the massive growth of the Super Bowl, NFL Draft and London games. Before his time with the NFL, Frank led the NHL’s event group for 13 years, responsible for the NHL All-Star Weekend and Stanley Cup.  Together...2019-11-1937 min