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Art HoundsArt Hounds: New SWANA plays, 5-minute films and art meets healthcareFrom MPR News, Art Hounds are members of the Minnesota arts community who look beyond their own work to highlight what’s exciting in local art. Their recommendations are lightly edited from the audio heard in the player above.Want to be an Art Hound? Submit here.Six new plays from Arab American TheaterworksDeborah Copperud of Minneapolis hosts the podcast “Read Minnesota Books.” She’s looking forward to a new event, the Festival of New SWANA Plays, this weekend. SWANA stands for Southwest Asian and North African...
2026-06-0404 min
The Sadie Green Story.E19. StevieSend us Fan MailHere, we introduce Stevie, the foster guardian who changes everything by simply offering clear expectations and real freedom. The details feel small until you realize they are the building blocks of safety, attachment, and a life that finally belongs to her. On late-night drives, Sadie’s thoughts loop back to Ma's relentless rural labor as if she's carrying the world upon her shoulders. Sadie describes the complexities of what never fully leaves: sadness, shame, and complicated loyalty; how sympathy can exist without empathy; and why rage might miss its target. Th...
2026-06-0126 minThe Sadie Green Story.E18. The Foster FamilySend us Fan MailSafety can be a roof, a routine, and a full refrigerator, and yet feel like you are still holding your breath. One can learn that being “easy” is the price of peace. The story turns toward personal ways that trauma can show up: hiding food, staying invisible, expecting blame, and chasing acceptance outside the home through risk, rebellion, and whatever makes you feel less alone.Then comes a raw look at boundaries, control disguised as care, and why privacy can be survival for an abuse survivor. Thanks for listening. Feel...
2026-05-2524 minThe Sadie Green Story.E17. Secret Out and Foster homeSend us Fan MailTogether, we talk about how early trauma shapes memory, safety, and identity, and why a child can learn to survive by guarding the biggest family rule: Never, never tell! In this episode, a favorite staffer sits beside her on a porch and listens while Sadie says out loud what she has shielded from sight for years. Rita offers a line that changes everything: "You now have choices." That sentence becomes the first crack in shame, the first step toward foster care, and the first realization that she will be leaving people and a...
2026-05-1821 min
RacketCastGirl Gone HOW Wild? Feat. Author/Comic/Actor Courtney KocakRight after high school Courtney Kocak left sleepy Jackson, Minnesota, to chase her dreams in Hollywood. Did everything go as planned? Sure didn't! And in her brand-new memoir, Girl Gone Wild, Kocak weaves together a series of essays that address "ambition, delusion, drugs, sex, and misogyny," plus selling merch on the extremely shady Girls Gone Wild porno bus.You can catch Kocak in conversation with author Kelly Foster Lundquist and Racket contributor Deborah Copperud this Friday at St. Paul's Acorn Bookshop (details here). Or on May 19 at Troubadour Wine Bar with past RacketCast guest Mary Lucia...
2026-05-1545 minThe Sadie Green Story.E16. Home Visits and FoodSend us Fan MailWe follow Sadie’s memories of how fear and disassociation can erase days, even as the record still claims everything went “great.” We connect the dots between childhood trauma, secrecy, and a lifelong struggle with food, trust, and self-protection. Sadie shows how school, books, and a supportive summer program helped her build an independent self. Thank you for listening, and feel free to share.You can also email us at < />Special Thanks to our supporters, who have made this podcast possible.Lucy Mathews Heegaa...
2026-05-1124 minThe Sadie Green Story.E15. More Psych WardSend us Fan MailWe return to Station 64 as Sadie remembers the joys of a locked psychiatric ward, where clothes, movies, and music become a lifeline. Outside the hospital walls, on the University of Minnesota campus, protest, freedom, and the first Earth Day swirl like a living promise. In staff notes, Sadie is “blossoming," yet a call from her mother triggers a home visit. We unpack why survivors keep abuse secret, how shame and fear of being labeled “bad” keep us silent, and what it takes to start building a new self-image.Thanks...
2026-05-0424 minThe Sadie Green Story.E14. More Docs and Psych WardSend us Fan MailPam and Sadie dig into hospital records written when Sadie was 14, reading what doctors and psychiatrists recorded and what they only hinted at. Medical notes describe red scaly skin and scratched extremities. Psyche notes flag learned isolation rather than psychosis. They describe a small, quiet girl who avoids eye contact and seems on the verge of tears. They ask what the body can reveal about exposure, neglect, and the system’s impulse to give adults the benefit of the doubt. If this story moves you, follow and share with a friend. Tha...
2026-04-2725 minThe Sadie Green Story.E13. Hospital RecordsSend us Fan MailPage by page, the records become personal proof that what happened was real, that the struggle was witnessed, and that family denial doesn’t have the last word.It’s a rare look at how child neglect can be described in official language, how systems attempt intervention, and how easily a kid can be framed as “difficult” when she is actually trying to survive.Thanks for listening. If this conversation stays with you, share the episode with a friend so that more listeners can find the show. You can also emai...
2026-04-2024 minThe Sadie Green Story.E12. Junior High and CourthouseSend us Fan MailWe return to Sadie’s junior high, where shame and hunger shape the days. A simple lunch ticket becomes a symbol of belonging. The story turns to school staff, a juvenile courtroom, and a social service system that finally pushes back. A medical directive becomes the face-saving cover to intervene when family violence is hiding in plain sight. Thanks for listening.Feel free to subscribe and share with others. You can also email us at < >Special Thanks to our supporters, who ha...
2026-04-1324 minThe Sadie Green Story.E11. Welfare Visit and Jr HighSend us Fan MailWe follow Sadie from a staged welfare visit to the crowded halls of junior high, where shame and silence meet people who finally notice. School staff and a young social worker push past appearances and help move her toward safety. This is about the power of everyday professionals—counselors, nurses, and teachers—to change outcomes for kids who are trying to disappear and of therapists who move us toward self-compassion. Thanks for listening. Feel free to subscribe and share with others. You can also email us at < />
2026-04-0625 minThe Sadie Green Story.E10. MontanaSend us Fan MailWhat follows is the bravest move in the story—Grandma, hat tied and heart heavy, rides to welfare to name what no one in the family would admit, paying for Sadie's safety with her own exile.Sadie shares how fear stayed in her body long after she was gone, how loyalty to siblings tangles with that fear, and why unanswered letters protected a fragile sense of safety. We talk about the nervous system and how patterns that once saved her now stand between her and intimacy.If this story re...
2026-03-3021 minThe Sadie Green Story.E9. Grandma ContinuedSend us Fan MailA cup of coffee overflows onto a saucer, while birds gather on a shelf to peck at suet. A grandmother puts on her best and decides to act without knowing the full story. Sadie takes us into the fields and the woods that served as her second home. She shares the fantasy of possessing a forsaken shack where, nearby, a skunk shows mercy in contrast to human cruelty.We surmise the social rules that keep us from stepping in: fear of getting it wrong, of making it worse, of being accused o...
2026-03-2323 minThe Sadie Green Story.E8. GrandmaSend us Fan MailA storm can terrify, or it can set you free. Lightning, thunder, and summer rain can offer comfort when one is unwelcome indoors. A sense of belonging can be built from safe spaces, safe creatures, and the ebb and flow of Mother Nature. Sadie shows how punishment became a system and how survival asked for cunning: Grandma held the line—she would not lie, but neither would she betray. Plates of food appeared at night, and by morning they were gone. It was care that shielded a child within the narrow spa...
2026-03-1624 minThe Sadie Green Story.E7. My Father MainlySend us Fan MailOut by the barn, Johnny Cash echoes through the night, and a girl finds comfort in the stars and the soft nose of a cow. Nature remains a refuge where family is not.Sadie’s story reveals how abuse hides in plain sight, how families demand silence, and how one person’s passivity can leave a legacy of loss. We talk about loyalty, how a family can prize order over truth, and how siblings learn to survive by pulling away. We explore why kids refuse help, why secrecy survives, and what a hel...
2026-03-0924 minThe Sadie Green Story.E6 A Tiny Bible, and MilkSend us Fan MailA child learns the rules of a house long before anyone writes them down. The story isn’t told for shock; it’s told to understand how a nervous system adapts when home becomes a surveillance state, and love looks like control.We unpack how chronic abuse trains the mind to expect loss after joy and silence after need and why seemingly small anchors—magazines, a transistor radio, and Dylan's "Blowin' in the Wind"—can be lifelines. If you’ve ever felt guilty for wanting or scared when life gets good, this conve...
2026-03-0224 minThe Sadie Green Story.E5. Better MemoriesSend us Fan MailA pink bedroom, a potbellied stove, and a snowfall that turns a farmyard into a fairytale—Sadie walks us through a time when tenderness and harm lived side by side. She characterizes trauma echoing across a lifetime.Along the way, Sadie honors loyalty to siblings who remember differently, showing how denial can be a survival tool for others and why telling the truth need not be cruel. She describes how limited resources and a lack of intervention can normalize abuse over time.Listen, share with someone interested in trauma and he...
2026-02-2325 minThe Sadie Green Story.E4. The Teacher and The SchoolhouseSend us Fan MailA clean green shoebox of sugar donuts sits on a teacher’s desk, and a hungry girl can’t stop staring. From that memory, we follow Sadie back to a one-room schoolhouse in rural Minnesota, sneaking in from the woods, wearing someone else's clothes, and where a teacher saw everything. It begins with food and shame but unfolds into a wider portrait of community, power, and a grandmother's courage. Decades pass, and then a hallway meeting becomes a reckoning: the teacher arrives with a cane and a perfect memor...
2026-02-1824 minThe Sadie Green Story.E3. Hunger and HidingSend us Fan MailA cold November garage, a basement chair, and a girl counting footsteps—that’s where Sadie’s story begins. We walk through the fear along with the stubborn spark of imagination: a belief that somewhere else this would not be happening. The narrative moves from hiding to hunger, showing how neglect and control can live side by side.A grandmother leaves food in a shed and proves that love can be small and still life-saving. We also face the most difficult truths: a father whose gentle nature could not interrupt cruelty and th...
2026-02-1624 minThe Sadie Green Story.E2. Looking BackSend us Fan MailA single sentence on a phone call—“We only have one daughter”—can divide a life in two. We sit down with Sadie to follow the arc from being erased by her family’s story to authoring her own during a winter spent alone in a Wisconsin cabin: a wood stove, a dog, a wary cat, and a stack of notebooks. Stillness pulls up images she has outrun for years, and the only way through is to let the questions stay.Sadie walks us through the mechanics of memory work—starting in third per...
2026-02-1623 min
Read Minnesota BooksKao Kalia Yang and The Blue House I LovedIn the first episode of Read Minnesota Books, host Deborah Copperud interviews award-winning Minnesota author Kao Kalia Yang about her new picture book, The Blue House I Loved, from University of Minnesota Press.The Blue House I LovedYang's Letter From Minnesota on LitHubBirch Bark Books, Louise Erdrich's Minneapolis bookstoreWild Rumpus bookstore in Minneapolis@kaokaliayang on InstagramKao Kalia Yang's websiteThanks for listening to Read Minnesota Books! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this...
2026-02-1415 minThe Sadie Green Story.E1. Why Now?Send us Fan Mail“People loved my mother. She nearly killed me.” With that stark paradox, we open a story that refuses easy answers. Sadie Green grew up in rural Minnesota with a cleft palate that required surgeries and a mother who was celebrated by neighbors while inflicting severe, escalating abuse at home. Decades later, Sadie returns to the pages she wrote in her thirties—memories captured during a winter of solitude—to understand how fear is rooted in her body and how fear has shaped her relationships and sense of self.We move between lived me...
2026-02-0923 min
Wedge LIVE!Deborah no longer shops at TargetHarrowing Personal Story: Up until last week, Deborah was the author of a popular local substack called "Deborah Copperud Shops at Target." Then her whole world got turned upside down. The Target corporation surrendered to Donald Trump's whims and dropped their diversity initiatives. We talk about Deborah's attempt to vote with her family's dollars, whether you should ever buy into the PR-driven goodness of a corporation, and if there's such a thing as ethical consumption under Trumpism.
Read Deborah's story in HuffPost: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/target-dei-shopping_n_679a4ef1e4b04f0f44d5637b
2025-02-0415 min
Freelance Writing Direct with Estelle#115 Coaching Episode: Estelle's Edge on Crafting Notable NarrativesDeborah Copperud is a freelance writer, independent podcast producer, and former reference librarian. Her writing has been published in Glamour, Racket, Defenestration, Great River Review, Potomac Review, Door Is A Jar, Another Chicago Magazine, and Blue Earth Review, and her Substack newsletter Deborah Copperud Shops at Target. Her work is forthcoming in The Rumpus and Good Tape. She co-hosts the It's My Screen Time Too and Spock Talk podcasts and teaches podcasting for Minneapolis Community Education. Copperud is currently at work on an essay collection about volunteering, a subject she's uniquely qualified to cover, having volunteered as a preschool...
2024-11-2827 min
Wedge LIVE!A Harrowing DFL Convention ExperienceToday, we're talking about people who think Roberts Rules is an acceptable form of bullying. It turns out, shouting "Point of order! Point of order!" over and over again is not an excuse to get up in a parliamentarian's personal space. Our conversation is inspired by Deborah Copperud's recent experience at the Minneapolis DFL City Convention. We talk about what's wrong with the DFL process, some potential solutions, and importantly, why those fixes will never happen. In a surprising twist, we agree the current deeply flawed process is still better than a primary.
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2024-05-0147 min
Wedge LIVE!Thanksgiving Cooking SegmentIt's Thanksgiving week on the Wedge LIVE podcast and that can mean only one thing: a cooking segment featuring Minneapolis Ward 7 Council Member Lisa Goodman's sweet noodle kugel. My guest and co-chef for this episode is Deborah Copperud of the DFL Senate District 61 fundraising committee, who has helped to put together a cookbook full of delicious recipes, including one from your host John Edwards.
The Taste the Trifecta DFL cookbook is available via this order form for $35. All proceeds will help elect Democrats in Minnesota.
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2023-11-2122 min
Spock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastLike Parenting History? Try the Your Grandparents Did What? Podcast!If you liked Spock Talk, you'll like Your Grandparents Did What? It's a comedy podcast about the history of parenting. Listen to the trailer now, then subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. The new season of Your Grandparents Did What? premiers on October 31! Like Spock Talk? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or email us at spocktalkpodcast@gmail.com. And listen to our other podcast, It's My Screen Time Too! Logo design by Creative Cookie Jar.Copyright 2023 Deborah Copperud + Katie Curler
2023-10-2401 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastNow that We're SpockologistsThis is our “Behind the Podcast” episode in which we talk about history crushes, library lessons, social media, influencer culture, information source evaluation, and obsolete audio technology.Listeners! Leave a review and let us know how Spock Talk compares to other conversational podcasts.ReferencesDeMott, Benjamin. “The Future of Children.” The Atlantic, April 1974. Kozlowska, Hanna. “Why Are We So Obsessed with Momfluencers?” Elle. 27 April 2023. Maier, Thomas. Dr. Spock: An American Life. Harcourt Brace & Company, 1998.Needleman, Robert and Benjamin Spock. Dr. Spock’s Baby and Child Care, 10th edition. Gallery Books, 2018. Pickert, Kate. “The Man Who Remade...
2023-07-1131 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastSuch an American Story: Lessons in Dr. Benjamin Spock-onomics, Internet History, and Venture CapitalWe discuss Dr. Benjamin Spock’s personal finances and the venture capitalists that brought Baby and Child Care to the World Wide Web.ReferencesAssociated Press. “Dr. Spock’s Advice - 60 Years Later.” The Canadian Press. 25 Oct. 2004. Carvajal, Doreen. “Dr. Spock, Old and Infirm, Needs Money, Wife Says.” The New York Times. 28 Feb. 1998, p. A6.“Digital Health and Human Rights Symposium.” Eventbrowse. Dinzeo, Maria. “Dr. Spock’s Widow Says Website Owes Her $84K.” Courthouse News. 28 July 2010. “The Dr. Spock Company Appoints New Members to Board of Directors.” Business Wire. 9 May 2001.“The Dr. Spock Company Launches in Parenting Media Mar...
2023-07-0429 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastSpock, Oprah; Oprah, Spock: Celebrity Culture in the 20th CenturyWe explore Spock in the spotlight. Did he have an irresistible, outsized personality? Or was he attention-seeking and fame-hungry?Public domain archival audio courtesy of the Iowa State University Archives.ReferencesBloom, Lynn. Doctor Spock: Biography of a Conservative Radical. The Bobbs-Merrill Company, Inc.: 1972.Levey, Jane. “‘Spock, I Love Him.’” Colby Quarterly, v. 36, n. 4, December 2000, pp. 273-294.Maier, Thomas. Dr. Spock: An American Life. Harcourt Brace & Company, 1998.“Malcolm Gladwell on Dr. Spock.” Significant Others: A History Podcast. 7 Sept. 2022. Massie, Robert K. “‘Not the Dr. Spock!’” Saturday Evening Post, vol. 239, no. 10, May 1966, pp. 80–86.Needleman, Robert and B...
2023-06-2729 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastSpocked Or Spanked?We explore Dr. Benjamin Spock’s political activism: Was he a hip protester? Or an anti-establishment pariah? Public domain archival audio courtesy of John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, Boston.ReferencesBates, Richard. “Democratic Babies? Francoise Dolto, Benjamin Spock and the Ideology of Post-ware Parenting Advice.” Journal of Political Ideologies vol. 24, no. 2, 2019, pp. 201-219.Bloom, Lynn. Doctor Spock: Biography of a Conservative Radical. The Bobbs-Merrill Company, Inc., 1972.“IFP:135-F-142-5M Jacqueline Kennedy Talks to Dr. Spock.” John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum. 13 Jul. 2010. Maier, Thomas. Dr. Spock: An American Life. Harco...
2023-06-2030 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastSpock's Women's Group: Sisters, Wives, and Daughters-in-lawWe explore Dr. Benjamin Spock’s personal relationships with women: sisters, co-workers, dance partners, mentors, wives, and daughters-in-law.Spock recording used with permission from WNYC Archive Collections.Listeners! Let us know your favorite piece of parenting advice. Leave it in a review or email us at spocktalkpodcast@gmail.com!ReferencesCooper, D. “Dr. Benjamin Spock.” WNYC. 1 October 1973. Goddard, Joanna. “Motherhood Mondays: Sleeping in Denmark (This Made My Jaw Drop!).” Cup of Jo, 19 September 2011. “Jane Cheney Spock.” Significant Others: A History Podcast. 6 Sept. 2022. Klemesrud, Judy. “The Spocks: Bittersweet. Recognition in a Revised Classic.” Ne...
2023-06-1332 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastSupposing the Baby is a Girl: Sexism in Dr. Benjamin Spock's Written WorksWe explore Dr. Benjamin Spock’s treatment of women in his books and magazine columns.Listeners! Let us know your favorite parenting advice book or website. Leave it in a review!Spock recordings used with permission from WNYC Archive Collections and Minnesota Public Radio.ReferencesAtkinson, V. Sue. “Shifting Sands: Professional Advice to Mothers in the First Half of the Twentieth Century.” Journal of Family History vol. 42, no. 2, 2017, pp. 128-146.Bloom, Lynn. Doctor Spock: Biography of a Conservative Radical. The Bobbs-Merrill Company, Inc, 1972.Broder, Sherri. “Child Care or Child Neglect? Baby Far...
2023-06-0630 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastFemLibs and FreudAs the first baby doctor to blend pediatrics with psychology, Dr. Benjamin Spock infused The Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care with Freudian psychoanalytic theory.Spock recording used with permission from WNYC Archive Collections.References“Add-Ons to Baby and Child Care: Page 285 Sterilizing Bottles.” www.drspock.com/page-285-sterilizing-bottles.Bernstein, Joseph. “Back to the Couch with Freud.” The New York Times. 26 March 2023.Cooper, D. “Dr. Benjamin Spock.” WNYC. 1 October 1973.Ehrenreich, Barbara and Deirdre English. For Her Own Good: 150 Years of the Experts’ Advice to Women. Doubleday, New York, 1978.Gilman, Richard. “The FemLib Case...
2023-05-3030 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastMen Not MomsWhat was Dr. Benjamin Spock’s role in the professionalization of the domestic sphere (i.e. the patriarchy’s long game)?Spock audio courtesy of the National Library of Medicine.ReferencesAtkinson, V. Sue. “Shifting Sands: Professional Advice to Mothers in the First Half of the Twentieth Century.” Journal of Family History vol. 42, no. 2, 2017, pp. 128-146.Backer, Kellen. Personal Correspondence. 21 April 2023.Beers, Carole. “Dr. Rothenberg was UW Innovator, Helped Dr. Spock and Mr. Rogers.” Seattle Times. 22 Jan. 2000.Bloom, Lynn. Doctor Spock: Biography of a Conservative Radical. The Bobbs-Merrill Company, Inc., 1972.Cooper, D. “Dr. Benjamin S...
2023-05-2331 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastSilver Spoon, Outdoor School, and Blue Striped Suits: How Nepo Privilege Created the Ultimate Parenting InfluencerDid a privileged upbringing, Yale legacy admission, and dapper fashion sense establish Dr. Benjamin Spock as a trustworthy authority on child rearing?Spock recording used with permission from WNYC Archive Collections.ReferencesBloom, Lynn. Doctor Spock: Biography of a Conservative Radical. The Bobbs-Merrill Company, 1972.Cooper, D. “Dr. Benjamin Spock.” WNYC. 1 October 1973. Kaye, Judith. The Life of Benjamin Spock. Twenty-First Century Books, 1993.Maier, Thomas. Dr. Spock: An American Life. Harcourt Brace & Company, 1998.Needleman, Robert and Benjamin Spock. Dr. Spock’s Baby and Child Care, 10th edition. Gallery Books, 2018.“Scroll and Key.” Wikipedia. Accessed 21 April 2023.S...
2023-05-2332 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastHalf a Banana, Two Baked Beans, and Zero Kisses: Parenting Advice in the Early Twentieth CenturyWas Dr. Benjamin Spock’s bestseller The Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care popular because early twentieth century parenting guides were awful and harsh? Spock recording used with permission from WNYC Archive Collections.ReferencesAtkinson, V. Sue. “Shifting Sands: Professional Advice to Mothers in the First Half of the Twentieth Century.” Journal of Family History vol. 42, no. 2, 2017, pp. 128-146.Cooper, D. “Dr. Benjamin Spock.” WNYC. 1 October 1973. Maier, Thomas. Dr. Spock: An American Life. Harcourt Brace & Company, 1998.Needleman, Robert and Benjamin Spock. Dr. Spock’s Baby and Child Care, 10th edition. Gallery Books...
2023-05-2330 minSpock Talk: A Parenting Advice PodcastIntroducing Spock Talk, A Podcast About the History of Parenting AdviceSpock Talk is a new conversational podcast about the history of parenting advice. Over ten episodes, we'll cover the life and legacy of Dr. Benjamin Spock, exploring his predecessors, privilege, medical training, written works, activism, and personal finances, as we try to answer: just who gets to tell parents how to parent?Like Spock Talk? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or email us at spocktalkpodcast@gmail.com. And listen to our other podcast, It's My Screen Time Too! Logo design by Creative Cookie Jar.Copyright 2023 Deborah Copperud + Katie Curler
2023-05-1800 min
Wedge LIVE!DFL Caucus 2022!John is joined by Senate District 61 Vice Chair Deborah Copperud and Minneapolis DFL digital maestro Conrad Zbikowski for a conversation about the upcoming DFL caucuses (register today!). There's a number of local and state races on the ballot this year: Hennepin County's top prosecutor, sheriff, county commissioner, school board, state house and senate. This year, like last year, is easier than a traditional caucus: take five minutes to fill out a form, check those delegate and alternate boxes, and give yourself a voice in who gets the DFL endorsement. There's also the option to show up to a caucus...
2022-01-2634 min
Just Chelsie PodcastingEp. 3.9: Screen Time & Pandemic Parenting feat. Deborah Copperud and Katie Curler from It's My Screen Time TooHow much screen time does your child get each day? This is a question seen often in the mom groups around the interwebs. While the amount of time is up for debate, it doesn't have to all be letting your child sit like a zombie in front of the screen. On this episode I talk with Deborah Copperud and Katie Curler who host a podcast called "It's My Screen Time Too" where they watch children's programming and rate it on "watchability" for grown-ups. While quantity of screen time does come up in our conversation, Deborah and Katie really hone...
2020-12-0935 min