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The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyHow to Use AI Without Giving Up Tour Data (with Jonathan Mortensen)Contracts aren’t controls. Jonathan Mortensen, CEO of Confident Security, lays out a practical path to provably private AI—confidential compute, attestation, and encrypted weights—so you can swap your OpenAI-compatible endpoint, keep crown-jewel data out of vendor training, and still close enterprise deals. Listen to learn how founders can pass security reviews, avoid GPU sprawl, and turn privacy into a sales advantage.
Jonathan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanmortensen
Confident Security: https://www.confident.security
Jon: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSec...2025-08-1236 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAugment Code: AI Agents, Engineered to Ship (with Scott Dietzen)AI isn’t just writing code—it’s joining the team. Scott Dietzen, Board Member at Augment Code, explains how Augment’s AI agents are changing the way enterprise software is built, secured, and scaled. These aren’t copilots for toy projects—they’re context-aware agents designed for real-world codebases and real production work.
Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottdietzen
Augment Code: https://www.augmentcode.com
Jon: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: https://www.ysecurity.io
2025-07-2937 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyHow Free AI Tools Become Expensive Mistakes (with Michael Moore, VP & Head of Legal at Glean)Free AI tools promise speed—but they can quietly kill enterprise deals. In this episode, Michael Moore, VP and Head of Legal at Glean, unpacks the legal, privacy, and trust pitfalls that most AI startups overlook. He explains how to design AI products that survive legal scrutiny, earn buyer trust, and actually close.
Michael: www.linkedin.com/in/michaeltimmoore
Glean: www.glean.com
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io 2025-07-1519 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyThe Security Risk No One Sees Coming with AI Agents (TraceForce.ai Special)AI agents can do more than access your data—they can act. TraceForce.ai founders Xia Hua and Glenn Mulvaney reveal the next big security risk: autonomous agents that operate beyond permission boundaries. From startup execution to securing the agent economy, this special episode covers it all.
Xia: www.linkedin.com/in/xia-hua-ph-d
Glenn: www.linkedin.com/in/glennanthonymulvaney
TraceForce: www.traceforce.ai
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2025-07-0139 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyHow Startups Can Fight AI Deepfake Fraud (with Ben Colman)AI-generated fraud is now mainstream—and your team probably can’t tell the difference.
Ben Colman shares hard-earned insights on fighting deepfakes, building detection tech that actually works, and how to stay ahead in the AI arms race.
Ben: www.linkedin.com/in/benpcolman
Reality Defender: www.realitydefender.com
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2025-06-1732 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyThe AI Governance Expert: 3 Things Every Business Needs to Trust AIYour data is moving—through APIs, AI agents, and services—and most businesses have no idea how. Abhi Sharma, CEO and Co-Founder of Relyance AI, joins us to explain how companies are getting AI governance wrong and what to fix. He reveals the 3 elements that define trust in AI—and why missing just one breaks everything.
Abhi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abhisharmab/
Relyance AI: https://www.relyance.ai
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2025-06-0334 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyCryptography and Web3 Expert: Security vs. Speed Is a False ChoiceMost founders think you have to choose between security and usability. Riad Wahby disagrees—and built Cubist to prove it. In this episode, he breaks down how startups can achieve secure key management without sacrificing speed or flexibility.
Riad: www.linkedin.com/in/kwantam
Cubist: www.cubist.dev
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2025-05-2230 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyFrom Netflix to Startup CEO: Travis McPeak Is Redesigning Security for DevelopersWhat if security wasn’t something developers had to think about at all? That’s the vision Travis McPeak—former Netflix and Databricks security leader—is building at Resourcely. In this episode, he breaks down why most security tools fail, how trust between security and engineering got broken, and what it really takes to fix cloud misconfigurations before they hit production. Travis also shares what compliance is getting wrong, why developer experience is non-negotiable, and what he learned going from big tech to startup CEO.
Travis: www.linkedin.com/in/travismcpeak
Resourcely: www.resourcely.io
Jon: www...2025-05-0626 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyGadi Bashvitz: How Bright Security Is Redefining AppSec for DevelopersWhat if your security tools are actually slowing you down? Bright Security co-founder and CEO Gadi Bashvitz shares how their team went from AI fuzzing to reshaping the way developers tackle vulnerabilities—without drowning in false positives or compliance theater.
Why AppSec hasn’t kept up with how engineering works today
The 60x cost of fixing bugs in production
What dev-first security actually looks like in the real world
How Bright is helping teams fix the right issues—faster
Listen to learn how Bright Security is shifting security left—without...2025-04-2228 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAI Expert Michal Pechoucek: How AI Is Targeting Your Mind NowAI is no longer just writing code or generating images—it’s shaping how we think.
In this episode, we sit down with AI researcher, professor, and investor Michal Pechoucek to explore how artificial intelligence is shifting from targeting systems to targeting human cognition. Michal outlines four emerging threats that are redefining AI security and explains why deepfakes, behavioral data, and black-box models are putting trust itself at risk.
We also discuss the growing gap between AI innovation and AI safety, how China is approaching behavioral data, and what this shift means for founders, defenders, and...2025-04-0831 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyYaron Singer, Cisco: The hard truth about deploying AI todayEveryone’s building AI. Few know how to deploy it safely. Yaron Singer, co-founder of Robust Intelligence (acquired by Cisco), reveals what’s really blocking AI from scaling—and why trust, not tech, is the biggest barrier. A must-listen for any founder navigating the AI wave.
Yaron Singer: www.linkedin.com/in/yaron-singer-76ab6317
Robust Intelligence: www.robustintelligence.com
Jon McLachlan: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha Sinkevich: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2025-03-2629 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyBuilding a Billion-Dollar Security Company: Lessons from Drata’s Co-Founder and CTOWhat happens when a seasoned entrepreneur tackles one of the biggest security challenges for startups? Daniel Marashlian, Co-Founder and CTO of Drata, built a billion-dollar company by automating security audits. In this episode, he breaks down compliance headaches, AI’s role in security, and why automation is the future.
Daniel Marashlian: www.linkedin.com/in/danielzev
Drata: www.drata.com
Jon McLachlan: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha Sinkevich: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2025-03-1128 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyBuying more security tools? You might be making things worseToo many startups fall into the “more tools = more security” trap. Instead of better protection, they end up with data silos, integration nightmares, and security teams buried in alerts—while real threats slip through the cracks.
Kabir Mathur, CEO of Lean, breaks down why adding more security tools might be your biggest mistake, the hidden costs of tool sprawl, and how to actually build a security stack that works.
Kabir Mathur: www.linkedin.com/in/mathurkabir
Leen: www.leen.dev
Jon McLachlan: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha Sinkevich: www.linkedin.com/in/ali...2025-02-2538 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyThe 4-Hour AI Scam: Hackers steal millions—and no one sees it happeningImagine waking up to thousands of customers scammed—using your brand’s name. The website looked real. The emails were flawless. No one saw it coming. This is the new reality of AI-powered fraud. Cybercriminals don’t need weeks to set up a scam anymore—they need just 4 hours.
Rod Schultz, CEO of Bolster AI, exposes the rise of automated phishing, brand impersonation, and large-scale fraud, plus the strategies businesses need to stop attacks before they escalate.
Rod: www.linkedin.com/in/rodschultz
Bolster AI: www.bolster.ai
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mcla...2025-02-1147 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyThe Father of SSL: Passwords are holding us backWhat if the way you secure your company is all wrong? Taher Elgamal, the ‘Father of SSL,’ reveals why passwords are failing us, what smarter security looks like, and how businesses can thrive with it.
Taher: www.linkedin.com/in/taherelgamal
Evolution Equity: evolutionequity.com
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2025-01-2343 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyDamon Fleury, CPO at SpyCloud, on Navigating the Darknet to Combat CybercrimeWhat does it take to stop a trillion-dollar criminal enterprise? Damon Fleury, Chief Product Officer of SpyCloud, dives into the murky world of cybercrime and the economy driving it. Fleury shares his journey from code and network stacks to facing off against an elaborate cybercrime ecosystem — one that’s as organized as a traditional business but designed purely to exploit and harm.
Damon: www.linkedin.com/in/damonfleury
SpyCloud: spycloud.com
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2025-01-0737 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyNeil Serebryany, Founder & CEO of CalypsoAI: Securing AI's Future and Tackling Tomorrow's RisksNeil Serebryany, Founder and CEO of CalypsoAI, shares his fascinating journey from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency to leading a cutting-edge AI security company. We dive into the evolving landscape of AI risks, data protection, and regulatory challenges while exploring the future of AI as it transforms industries and society. Learn how CalypsoAI is paving the way for secure AI adoption and what it means for the future of business and innovation.
Neil: www.linkedin.com/in/neil-serebryany
CalypsoAI: calypsoai.com
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity...2024-12-0441 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyJacob Berry, Field CISO at Clumio, On Balancing Security with Business Growth in the CloudJacob Berry, Field CISO at Clumio, sits down with Jon and Sasha, YSecurity.io, to explore the intricate balance between security and business growth. Jacob shares his journey from a “punk hacker” to leading security for a cutting-edge cloud data protection company. We delve into the evolving role of the CISO, the complexities of managing security for cloud-based services, and the importance of balancing confidentiality, integrity, and availability. Jacob also discusses the human side of security, from customer conversations to the challenges and opportunities in the fast-paced world of startups.
Jacob: www.linkedin.com/in/jacobiberry
Clumio: clumio.com2024-11-1746 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyVijay Balasubramaniyan, Co-Founder and CEO of Pindrop Security: The Voice Behind Cutting-Edge SecurityFrom his roots in voice technology at giants like Google and IBM to pioneering security innovations at Pindrop, Vijay Balasubramaniyan shares his unique journey of merging voice and security. Discover how Pindrop is leading the charge against deepfake fraud, revolutionizing voice authentication, and even protecting democracy.
Vijay: www.linkedin.com/in/vijayab
Pindrop: www.pindrop.com
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2024-10-3046 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyKayne McGladrey, Field CISO at Hyperproof, SEC 10-K and Cybersecurity LeadersJoin us in this episode of the Security Podcast in Silicon Valley, where host Jon McLachlan sits down with Kayne McGladrey, Field CISO at Hyperproof. Kayne shares his unique journey from theater to cybersecurity, offering insights into risk management, regulatory compliance, and the evolving landscape of cyber threats. Discover how his background in improv and theater has shaped his approach to cybersecurity, the importance of SEC 10-K disclosures, and practical advice for startups and security professionals. Don't miss this engaging and informative conversation!
2024-10-1548 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyHaseeb Awan, Founder and CEO of Efani, Revolutionizing Mobile Security for the Digital AgeIn this episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, host Jon McLachlan sits down with Haseeb Awan, the visionary Founder and CEO of Efani Secure Mobile. Join us as Haseeb shares his inspiring journey from co-founding BitAccess to creating a bulletproof mobile service designed to protect against the rising threat of SIM swapping and digital identity theft. Haseeb opens up about his personal experiences with security breaches, the challenges he faced, and the innovative solutions Efani offers to ensure top-notch security for its users. Tune in for an engaging conversation filled with insights, resilience, and a commitment to...2024-10-0131 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleySimon Wijckmans, Founder and CEO of cside.dev, Revolutionizing Client-Side SecurityIn this episode of the Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, a YSecurity production, hosts Jon McLachlan and Sasha Sinkevich dive into an engaging conversation with Simon Wijckmans, Founder and CEO of cside.dev. Simon shares his journey from working at Hydra, Vercel, and Cloudflare to founding cside.dev, a security startup focused on client-side security. He discusses the evolution of web security, the unique challenges of client-side attacks, and how cside.dev is pioneering solutions to make web security more accessible. Simon's insights into the dynamic landscape of cybersecurity and his passion for innovative solutions make this episode a...2024-09-1749 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyLorenzo Thione, Co-Founder and Chairman of StartOut, on AI's Role in Security and the Power of Diverse InvestmentIn this episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, a YSecurity production, Host Jon McLachlan talks with Lorenzo Thione, a philanthropist, LGBTQ advocate, and investor. As the co-founder and chairman of StartOut, the only LGBTQ incubator, and managing director of Gaingels, Lorenzo shares his unique insights into the intersection of AI and security. They explore the ethical implications of advanced AI technologies, the importance of diversity in the tech industry, and how inclusive investment strategies can drive innovation. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation on shaping a more equitable future in tech.
2024-09-0146 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleySuha Can, CISO at Grammarly: Safeguarding User Data in Enterprise AI SystemsIn this episode of the Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, a YSecurity production, Hosts Jon and Sasha dive deep with Suha Can, the Chief Information Security Officer at Grammarly, who oversees the security of over 30 million users and 70,000 enterprise teams worldwide. Suha shares his journey from discovering the internet in a small Turkish café to leading security at major tech giants like Amazon and Microsoft. We explore how he’s pioneering responsible AI at Grammarly, balancing product security with innovation, and preparing for the future of AI and cybersecurity. Tune in for an enlightening conversation on building trust, tackling zer...2024-08-1542 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyTony Thai, Founder and CEO of HyperDraft, Revolutionizing Legal Tech with Engineering PrecisionJoin us on YSecurity Production as Jon McLachlan welcomes Tony Thai, the innovative Founder and CEO of HyperDraft. Discover how Tony’s journey from software engineering to a prominent law firm attorney inspired him to create groundbreaking legal tech solutions. In this episode, Tony shares insights into the intersection of cybersecurity and legal fields, the importance of client communication, and the impact of AI in legal services. Tune in for a deep dive into how HyperDraft transforms document generation and digital workflows, making legal services more efficient and secure.
2024-08-0245 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAlan Braithwaite, Co-Founder and CTO at RunReveal: SIEM doesn't have to suckAlan Braithwaite, Co-Founder and CTO of RunReveal, shares his journey from Cloudflare to co-founding RunReveal, discussing how his company is revolutionizing the security landscape by making threat detection faster and easier.
Alan: www.linkedin.com/in/alan-braithwaite
RunReveal: runreveal.com
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2024-07-1938 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyVivek Ramachandran, Founder and CEO of SquareX, Pioneering Browser-Based Security SolutionsVivek Ramachandran, Founder and CEO of SquareX, shares his inspiring journey into the cybersecurity field, sparked by his fascination with the power of individual hackers and their impact on massive websites. He discusses the evolution of the security landscape over the past 25 years, emphasizing the shift from lone warriors to collaborative team efforts against sophisticated cyber threats.
Vivek: www.linkedin.com/in/vivekramachandran
SquareX: www.sqrx.com
Jon: www.linkedin.com/in/jon-mclachlan
Sasha: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-sinkevich
YSecurity: www.ysecurity.io
2024-07-1346 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyDr. Georgianna, Chief Technologist at Foundation for Defensive Democracies, Advancing National Cybersecurity Through Innovation and Policy.In this episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, host Jon McLachlan sits down with Dr. Georgianna Shea, the Chief Engineer at MITRE and Chief Technologist at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Dr. Shea shares her extensive experience in cybersecurity, from her work with the Department of Defense to her current role in influencing national security policy. Discover her insights on the importance of resilience in cybersecurity, the significance of Software Bill of Materials (SBOM), and how AI and quantum computing are shaping the future of cyber defense. Tune in for an inspiring conversation with one of...2024-06-2956 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyClea Ostendorf, CISO of Code42, Securing the Unseen: on the Frontlines of Data ProtectionWelcome to a new episode of the Security Podcast in Silicon Valley, a YSecurity production, where we delve into the ever-evolving landscape of cybersecurity, with Clea Ostendorf, Field CISO at Code42, as our distinguished guest. Clea's journey from an aspiring diplomat to a front-runner in cybersecurity offers profound insights into her unique approach that is reshaping the realm of data protection. Join us as our host Jon McLachlan, a seasoned expert in the field, engages Clea in a deep dive into how she merges traditional security methods with the pressing challenges of today’s digital world. Discover how Clea ad...2024-06-1744 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyPolina Morozov, Security Recruiter at Grammarly on Navigating Careers and Culture in CybersecurityHost Jon McLachlan, welcomes Polina Morozov, a distinguished Security Recruiter from Grammarly (and formerly Robinhood) onto Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, a YSecurity.io production. As we peel back the layers of security and recruiting, Polina shares her remarkable journey from aspiring diplomat to a key player in tech hiring, highlighting the crucial role communication plays in connecting talent with opportunity. Discover how Grammarly's cutting-edge tools not only enhance written communication but also serve as a catalyst for Polina's career. Through candid conversations, this episode offers a unique lens on the challenges and triumphs of recruiting in the security...2024-06-0737 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyCraig Goodwin, Co-Founder and CEO of Bleach Cyber: Imagine Cybersecurity, but not ComplicatedHost Jon McLachlan sits down with Craig Goodwin, Co-Founder and CEO of Bleach Cyber. Craig shares his remarkable journey from military intelligence in the UK to leading cybersecurity roles at major corporations like Monster Worldwide, CDK Global, and Fujitsu, ultimately founding Bleach Cyber. Discover how Bleach Cyber aims to simplify cybersecurity for small businesses, making top-tier security accessible and manageable. Craig also dives into the human element of cybersecurity, the challenges of startup life, and the importance of resilience and simplicity in both business and life. Tune in for a compelling conversation filled with insights, practical advice, and Craig's...2024-05-2737 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyBenoit Chevallier-Mames, VP Privacy Preserving Cloud and ML at Zama, Unlocking the Potential of Privacy with Fully Homomorphic EncryptionHost Jon McLachlan sits down with Benoit Chevallier-Mames, VP of Privacy Preserving Cloud and Machine Learning at Zama, as our first returning guest after , The Security Podcast in Silicon Valley, a YSecurity production. Dive into the transformative world of Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE), a technology that promises to revolutionize data privacy in AI applications. As an expert at RSA in SF in 2024, Benoit shares insights from his journey, from pioneering efforts at Apple to pushing the boundaries of privacy tech at Zama. Discover how Zama's cutting-edge advancements set the stage for a new era where data privacy and machine...2024-05-2034 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyEvan Driscoll & Dion Almaer Unleash Augment's Software Engineering Revolution with Secure AIDive into the intersection of AI and security with Augment Computing's leaders, Evan Driscoll, VP of Engineering(formerly Pure Storage, General Magic) and Dion Almaer, VP of Product(formerly Shopify, Google, Walmart.com, Mozilla), to uncover how Augment's groundbreaking SaaS platform is revolutionizing the developer experience with AI. This thrilling episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, brought to you by YSecurity, is hosted by Jon McLachlan and Sasha Sinkevich.
2024-05-0842 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAvery Pennarun, Co-Founder and CEO of Tailscale, the Anti-Google: Rebuilding a Secure Internet from the Bottom-UpDon't miss this blend of technology, ambition, and forward-thinking only of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, a YSecurity.io production, as we dive into Avery Pennarun's journey, the Co-Founder and CEO of Tailscale, from starting his first company in college to selling it to IBM, taking a detour at Google, and eventually creating what's known as the anti-Google of cyber startups, Tailscale. Avery gives us a candid look at the evolution of a billion-dollar valuation company. Discover how Tailscale became the first security infrastructure product adopted bottom-up by individual engineers rather than imposed from the top down. Join...2024-05-0145 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyMichael Moore, Chief Privacy Officer at Lacework, Securing Tomorrow: Navigating the Cyber FrontierDive into the heart of cybersecurity innovation with host Jon McLachlan and guest Michael Moore, the visionary Chief Privacy Officer at Lacework, and previously Pure Storage, on this episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, a YSecurity.io production. In this compelling episode, Michael shares his path from engineer to legal expert to cybersecurity trailblazer. Michael reveals his unique insights into the critical intersection of technology, privacy, and law, illuminating how these elements are essential in shaping the security landscape. Get this exclusive inside look at Lacework's advanced strategies for combating digital threats and safeguarding the digital future...2024-04-1443 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyJose Arrieta, Imagineer, Former Chief Information Officer and Chief Data Officer at US Health and Human ServicesJon McLachlan hosts the visionary Jose Arrieta, the former CIO and Chief Data Officer at the US Department of Health and Human Services, in this enthralling episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, a YSecurity production. In this revealing conversation, Jose shares insights from his dynamic career spanning government, academia, and the intersection of cybersecurity and healthcare innovation. Discover how his unique approach to challenges and opportunities is shaping the future of secure solutions in critical sectors. From tackling potential nation-state cyber threats during the pandemic to reimagining the EHR space and advocating for data ownership, Jose's journey...2024-04-0147 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleySteve Orrin, Federal CTO at Intel, on Tech, Trust, and TransformationIn this captivating episode of a YSecurity.io production, we delve into the mind of Steve Orrin, the Federal CTO at Intel, who provides valuable insights into various topics, including AI, Trusted Execution Environments, Cloud Computing, Team Building, Mergers and Acquisitions, and Entrepreneurship. Steve began his career as an entrepreneur, but after Intel acquired his company, he took his career to the next level and has been with Intel for over 18 years. As the Federal CTO at Intel, he leads Intel’s efforts in the DoD and Federal Government verticals. Throughout the interview, Steve shares personal anecdotes and life le...2024-03-0948 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyNick Sullivan on Cryptography, Cloudflare, and Building a Better InternetIn this enlightening episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, a YSecurity.io production with your host Jon McLachlan, we are honored to host Nick Sullivan, a trailblazer in the realm of cryptography and security. Formerly the Head of Cryptography at Cloudflare and now a pivotal figure in startup advisory and angel investing, Nick shares his journey from delving into pure mathematics at Waterloo to shaping the security landscape of the internet. He reflects on his early career, from researching cryptography to his impactful roles at Symantec, Apple, and eventually Cloudflare, where he spent over a decade innovating...2024-03-0949 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyFounder's Guide to Compliance: The Introduction SOC2, ISO, NIST, HITRUST, PCI-DSS, FIPS, and moreWelcome to "The Founder's Guide to Compliance," a YSecurity.io production, hosted by Jon McLachlan and Sasha Sinkevich. We tear down the complexity surrounding compliance standards like SOC2, NIST, FIPS, PCI-DSS, HITRUST and the myriad facets of cybersecurity. Whether you're a startup founder knee-deep in the trenches or a seasoned executive navigating the ever-evolving landscape of digital security, this podcast is your no-BS zone for getting to the essence of what these standards mean for you and your business.
Jon, a Minnesota native and security enthusiast, brings his rich background from Apple and various startups to the...2024-02-2517 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyFeross Aboukhadijeh, Founder and CEO of Socket.dev, a startup improving security and privacy on the webIn this episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, host Jon McLachlan of YSecurity.io invites Feross Aboukhadijeh, Founder and CEO of Socket.dev, a supply-chain cybersecurity company, to share his compelling journey as he tackles some of the most pressing challenges in software development security. Feross, a Stanford graduate and former intern at Intel, Facebook, and Quora, shares his journey from developing PeerCDN, a pioneering peer-to-peer content network, to his current venture, Socket.dev. Discover how Socket.dev is addressing critical software supply chain vulnerabilities by utilizing innovative technologies, including heuristic analysis and the latest LLMs. This...2024-02-0153 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAviv Grafi, Founder and Innovator at Votiro: from IDF 8200 to Cybersecurity VisionaryIn this episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley, your host Jon McLachlan of YSecurity.io welcomes Aviv Grafi, founder and Innovator of Votiro, who shares his journey from the IDF's prestigious 8200 unit to revolutionizing cybersecurity. Aviv's passion for hacking and reverse engineering in his youth led to his success in both military and civilian sectors. He discusses the inception of Votiro, a company that stands out for its unique approach to document security, prioritizing the extraction of safe content over traditional threat detection methods. Aviv emphasizes the importance of proactive and enabling security solutions in the digital...2024-01-0835 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyGanesh Krishnan, Co-Founder and CEO of Anzenna - on Cyber Security Awareness TrainingIn this compelling YSecurity.io podcast series, Ganesh Krishnan recounts his incredible 25+ year journey in security and shares why he Co-Founded Anzenna, a Cyber Security Engagement and Collaboration Platform.
Employees are key to maintaining overall security. Their actions can make a big difference. Cybersecurity teams handle monitoring and updating protocols, but employees must stay aware of trends and follow best practices. Prioritize cybersecurity by investing in security measures, providing training, and encouraging participation. When employees take responsibility for protecting data and systems, security becomes a collective effort. This is Anzenna.
2023-12-0133 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyElizabeth Nammour, Co-Founder and CEO of Teleskope, Navigating Data Security FrontiersJoin us on a journey into the forefront of data security innovation in this captivating episode of a YSecurity.io production, featuring Elizabeth Nammour, Co-Founder and CEO of Teleskope. Elizabeth, or Lizzy as she's known, brings a wealth of experience and a deep passion for data security, honed during her time at Airbnb. There, she played a pivotal role in developing strategies to protect personally identifiable information (PII), ensuring compliance with GDPR, CCPA, and other critical data security regulations.
Teleskope stands as a testament to Lizzy's commitment to advancing data security, leveraging artificial intelligence to offer protection...2023-11-0144 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyKevin Kane, Founder and CEO of American Binary, on Cryptography and Quantum ComputersIn this episode of a YSecurity.io production we feature, Kevin Kane, the Co-Founder and CEO of Ambit, Inc. dba American Binary, a startup specializing in protecting businesses against current and next-generation cyber threats. With expertise in post-quantum cryptography and high-performance network infrastructure, catch a glimpse into the future of quantum computing and its devastating impact on RSA and EC public key cryptography, potentially halting secure communications across the Internet and globalization as we know it. In this episode, Kevin shares vulnerable moments and thoughtful insights on religion, philosophy, self-improvement, psychology, and how security plays a crucial role in t...2023-09-011h 34
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleySergey Stelmakh, Head of Security Engineering at Yugabyte, on Innovation vs Security in StartupsExplore the delicate dance between innovation and security in this enlightening episode of a YSecurity.io production, featuring Sergey Stelmakh. With a rich background that traverses the realms of mathematics and security architecture, Sergey delves into the crucial question of how to foster innovation while ensuring rigorous security. His journey, from an Assistant Professor of Mathematics at Belarusian State University to Head of Security at Yugabyte, MuleSoft (now part of Salesforce), and Symphony Communications, illustrates the deep interconnection between analytical thinking and practical security solutions.
Throughout the conversation, Sergey shares his insights on building effective teams that...2023-08-0344 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyDominik Schürmann, Co-Founder and CEO of heyloginIn this episode of a YSecurity.io production, we sit down with Dominik Schürmann, the Co-Founder and CEO of heylogin, who shares an incredible journey from childhood, and research, toward more usable security. How are usable security values different from "formal" or "provable" security? Why does it matter? How does that change where you spend your time and energy? And how can we integrate with human nature and our organic tendencies to build more secure software? These questions, and many more, guide Dominik to start heylogin, as he shares his outside-the-box vision for a better and more secure f...2023-07-0330 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyRod Schultz, VP of Product at Dust IdentityRod Schultz reflects on his childhood experiences and heroes, how he got into security, how that led him to Apple's DRM FairPlay team, Zoom's Head of Product Security and Privacy, and now DUST Identity's VP of Product.
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The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyDavid Carpe - How to Network, and The Myth of The Great Silent ResignationIn this enlightening episode of a YSecurity.io production, David Carpe, Founder of Carpe Search Partners, shares deep insights on the professional value of networking (connecting with and offering service to the people around us) in the security community. We explore how to network effectively, offer a give, and how networking differs from charity, philanthropy, and everyday friends. Davides some profoundly personal views on the supposedly Great Silent Resignation, which may surprise you. We end with some gre. Youvice, you don't want to miss it.
David breaks down the art of effective networking, highlighting the distinction between...2023-05-1951 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyColin Bitterfield - Head of Security (Acting CISO) People Data LabsIn this episode of a YSecurity.io production, Colin Bitterfield, a key figure at People Data Labs, offers a compelling narrative on how intertwining growth with security through standardization and meticulous documentation can propel a business forward. Colin unveils his strategic blueprint for constructing and sustaining a business-first security team, where the emphasis on people ensures a win-win scenario for all stakeholders involved.
Delving into the essence of his approach, Colin articulates the significance of aligning security measures with the overarching goals of the organization. By championing standardization and proper documentation, he underscores how these practices not...2023-01-1644 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAndrew Spangler, Head of Security and Compliance at Harness, on Building Trust in SecurityIn this enriching episode of a YSecurity.io production, Andrew Spangler, the esteemed Head of Security and Compliance at Harness, invites us into the world of security through his experiences, offering a blend of light-hearted banter and profound insights. Andrew's journey in the security field, marked by both humility and vast expertise, serves as the backdrop for a discussion that delves into the core of building trust, leading effectively, and nurturing career growth within the security community.
Andrew shares candidly about the art of building trust—not just within teams but also in the broader context of th...2022-12-0138 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyDavid Gurle - Founder and Executive Chairman at Hive, on Empathy, Innovation, and DisruptionIn this heartfelt episode of a YSecurity.io production, we sit down with David Gurle, a visionary serial entrepreneur whose influence spans across some of the most transformative companies in secure communication and collaboration. From his early days at Thomson Reuters, Skype, Microsoft, Perzo, and Symphony Communications, and now as the Founder and Executive Chairman of Hive, David has consistently been at the forefront of driving positive change in how we connect and collaborate securely.
David's journey is deeply rooted in his formative years in Beirut, Lebanon, amid the backdrop of a civil war. He shares touching...2022-11-1656 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAman LaChapelle, Early Engineer at Modular AI, on Redefining AI InfrastructureIn this episode of a YSecurity.io production, we delve into the innovative world of Aman LaChapelle, whose fresh engineering perspective is shaping the future of security, privacy, AI, big data, and scalable compute infrastructure. As a key figure at Modular, Aman is at the helm of a transformative project aimed at rebuilding AI infrastructure to make it accessible and privacy-conscious for all.
Aman shares his insights into the complexities of balancing the need for robust data privacy with the demands of building scalable AI systems. His approach, deeply rooted in a nuanced understanding of both the...2022-11-0135 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyDavid M’Raihi: CPSO at Rivian, on Cryptography, Cars, and the Craft of SecurityIn this episode of a YSecurity.io production, we dive deep into the world of cryptography and software security with David M'Raihi, the Chief Product Security Officer at Rivian. With a wealth of experience in the field, David shares his insights on the multifaceted challenges and opportunities in protecting innovative technologies in the automotive industry.
David and host Jon McLachlan engage in a fascinating discussion on the essentials of building a robust security team, the intricacies of cryptographic systems, and the potential vulnerabilities that could lead to breaking RSA encryption. Beyond the technicalities, David offers a glimpse...2022-10-1951 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyMichael Crandell, CEO at Bitwarden Inc., on Open Source SecurityIn this inspiring episode of a YSecurity.io production, we are joined by Michael Crandell, CEO of Bitwarden Inc., who shares the vision, journey, and the profound wisdom behind Bitwarden's success. Bitwarden stands at the forefront of enhancing collaboration, bolstering security, and amplifying productivity through the synergy of open source and community engagement, offering an intuitive solution for securing passwords and sensitive information.
Michael delves into the ethos of Bitwarden, emphasizing how the open-source model not only fosters innovation and transparency but also cultivates a sense of belonging and contribution among its users. He reflects on the...2022-10-0135 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleySergej Dechand, Co-Founder and CEO of Code Intelligence, on Fuzzing the FutureSergej Dechand shares his security journey from usable security research to Co-Founding Code Intelligence, where he is CEO. Code Intelligence delivers open-source static analysis-guided fuzz testing that enables developers to simplify software security testing without modifying their code.
In this episode of a YSecurity.io production, we dive into the compelling world of software security with Sergej Dechand, Co-Founder and CEO of Code Intelligence. Sergej takes us through his fascinating journey from conducting usable security research to leading a company that's revolutionizing the way developers approach software security testing through open-source static analysis-guided fuzz testing.
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The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyBenoit Chevallier-Mames, Team Lead of Machine Learning at Zama, On Open Source Homomorphic EncryptionDive into the world of cryptography with Benoit Chevallier-Mames in this episode of a YSecurity.io production, where he shares his remarkable journey through the realms of encryption, engineering, and leadership. From making significant contributions at Apple to his current role at Zama, Benoit's work has profoundly impacted data security for billions of users worldwide, all while maintaining a humble demeanor.
Benoit opens up about the valuable lessons learned during his tenure at Apple, offering insights into the challenges and breakthroughs that come with working on security for one of the most influential tech companies in the...2022-09-0258 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAaron Painter, Founder and CEO of Nametag, On Redefining AuthenticationIn this engaging episode of a YSecurity.io production, we sit down with Aaron Painter, CEO of Nametag Inc, to explore the cutting-edge future of authentication. As we delve into the concept of "Sign in with ID," Aaron shares his vision for a world where traditional passwords and device-based authentication methods are replaced with a more secure, trusted, and user-friendly alternative.
Aaron provides a deep dive into how Nametag Inc is leading the charge in revolutionizing the way we think about securing our digital identities. Through the innovative "Sign in with ID" approach, Aaron discusses the potential...2022-08-0536 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAnders Eknert, Developer Advocate at Styra, On Evolved AuthorizationIn this enlightening episode of a YSecurity.io production, we delve into the transformative world of authorization with Anders Eknert, whose journey to Styra is marked by deep insights and vast experience. Anders guides us through the evolution of authorization, addressing the pivotal question, "What are you allowed to do?" and illustrating how the landscape is shifting away from the chaotic "wild-wild-west" towards more structured, secure, and efficient frameworks.
Anders shares his journey, highlighting key experiences that have shaped his understanding and approach to authorization. With a focus on best practices, he explores the complexities of managing...2022-07-0325 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleySean Cassidy: Head of Security at Asana, Crafting Security ExcellenceIn this episode of a YSecurity.io production, we're privileged to have Sean Cassidy, the Head of Security at Asana, share the wealth of knowledge and experience he's accumulated in building leading security teams and developing impactful security products. Sean takes us on a journey through his career, offering an insider's view on the challenges and triumphs of establishing a culture of security excellence within an organization.
Listeners will be treated to Sean's stories from the trenches—lessons learned from both successes and setbacks. He delves into the strategies that have enabled him to assemble outstanding security te...2022-06-0340 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyWill Butler, Red Team at Robinhood and Co-Founder of TruffleSecurity, From Hacking Airports to Leading Red TeamsIn this thrilling episode of a YSecurity.io production, we sit down with Will Butler, a seasoned security expert whose journey into the world of red teaming began with an audacious hack of airport security systems in his youth. This pivotal moment not only sparked Will's passion for security but also set him on a path to becoming a formidable figure in the field of penetration testing and red teaming.
Will shares his fascinating transition from a curious youngster with a knack for finding security loopholes to a professional dedicated to safeguarding organizations against cyber threats. He...2022-05-0155 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleySalesforce Security Engineer, Benjamin Schmoker Scott, Navigating the Cyber Security LandscapeIn this enlightening episode of a YSecurity.io production, we're joined by Ben, a versatile software engineer with a rich background in computer security. Having navigated a diverse career path that spans startups, major tech companies, research labs, and intelligence agencies, Ben brings a unique perspective to the table. He shares his journey into the world of security, recounting the experiences, challenges, and milestones that have shaped his career.
Ben delves into how he discovered his passion for security and the pivotal moments that guided his path through the industry's various sectors. His insights into the evolution...2022-04-0233 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyBiff Clark, Cybersecurity Specialist and Owner of Coefficient Technologies, Frontiers of Cyber SecurityIn this episode of a YSecurity.io production, we have the pleasure of speaking with Biff W. Clark, the Managing Partner and Cyber Security Consultant of Coefficient Technologies LLC. With an impressive career spanning over 25 years in sales and sales leadership, including 15 years dedicated to consulting on information technology and cyber security solutions, Biff brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the conversation.
Biff shares his journey from obtaining a BA in Business Management from Midland University to earning an MS in Cyber Security, Cyber Operations from Utica College. His passion for cyber security is matched...2022-03-0152 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyPaul Nguyen, Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Permiso Security, On Innovating Security PosturesJoin us for an engaging episode of a YSecurity.io production featuring Paul Nguyen, the Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Permiso Security. Paul brings a wealth of knowledge and innovative insights from his journey in the cybersecurity industry, particularly in enhancing security posture and protecting against evolving threats.
In this conversation, Paul shares the story behind founding Permiso Security, highlighting the challenges and opportunities that led to the creation of a company dedicated to redefining how businesses approach their cybersecurity strategies. With a focus on leveraging cutting-edge technologies and methodologies, Paul discusses Permiso Security's mission to empower organizations...2022-02-0331 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyFounder Dan Sherry and Co-Founder Grace Chi deep dive into Pulsedive, Demystifying Threat IntelligenceIn this insightful episode of a YSecurity.io production, we're joined by Dan Sherry, Founder and CEO, and Grace Chi, Co-Founder and COO, of Pulsedive, for an in-depth discussion on the pivotal role of Threat Intelligence in today's cybersecurity landscape. Dan and Grace share their journey of building Pulsedive, a platform dedicated to simplifying complex data problems in security and the instrumental role of community feedback in shaping their solutions.
The conversation kicks off with Dan and Grace explaining the genesis of Pulsedive and their mission to make Threat Intelligence accessible and actionable for organizations of all...2022-01-2144 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyRobert Rounsavall, Co-Founder of Trapezoid Inc., Firmware to FrontlinesDive into the intersection of cybersecurity, military discipline, and endurance sports in this episode of a YSecurity.io production featuring Robert Rounsavall, Co-Founder and President of Trapezoid Inc. Robert's journey from a childhood fascination with security, through a distinguished military career, to leading innovation in firmware security, provides a compelling narrative of resilience, innovation, and leadership.
In this interview, Robert shares pivotal experiences from his youth that sparked his interest in security, laying the foundation for a career that spans both the high-stakes worlds of military operations and cutting-edge technology. His insights into the challenges and rewards...2021-12-2832 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyMichael Malone, Founder and CEO of SmallStep, Certificates, Identity, X.509, and AuthenticationIn this compelling episode of a YSecurity.io production, Michael Malone, the visionary Founder and CEO of SmallStep, takes us on a deep dive into the critical realms of Identity, Certificates, X.509, and Authentication. Michael unfolds the journey of SmallStep, from its initial focus on Authorization to its strategic pivot towards Authentication, highlighting the evolutionary path of the company and its contribution to enhancing digital security.
Michael recounts the origins of SmallStep, sharing the story of its humble beginnings and the pivotal moments that led to its reorientation towards Authentication. This shift underscores the dynamic nature of...2021-11-1532 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyDylan Ayrey, Founder and CEO of Truffle Security, How Open-Source Makes the World More SecureIn this thought-provoking episode of a YSecurity.io production, we're joined by Dylan Ayrey, the Founder and CEO of Truffle Secure, for a deep dive into the transformative power of open-source projects in cybersecurity. Dylan, the brain behind the renowned open-source tool Truffle Hog, shares insights on leveraging open-source projects to forge a more secure, resilient, and transparent digital future.
Dylan begins by addressing the critical task of uncovering secrets hidden within GitHub repositories, including the Git history, and the role of tools like Truffle Hog in mitigating potential security risks. This conversation not only highlights the...2021-09-0724 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyFredrick Lee, CSO of Gusto: Why is authentic diversity essential for epic security teams?In this deeply insightful episode of a YSecurity.io production, we are honored to have Fredrick Lee ("Flee"), the Chief Security Officer at Gusto, share his experiences and the profound impact of diversity on building engineering and security teams. Flee's journey from his childhood, through his formative years at a boarding school in the deep south, to his role as a leading figure in cybersecurity, is not only inspiring but also illuminates the critical role diversity plays in fostering innovation and resilience.
Flee recounts his early fascination with computers and his discovery of the hacker magazine 2600, which...2021-08-2446 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyMichael Brooks, vCISO and Director of Cyber Risk Services at TravaIn this thought-provoking episode of a YSecurity.io production, we welcome Michael Brooks, the Chief Information Security Officer at Trava, to dissect the complex world of cyber risk, ransomware attacks, business preparedness, and risk management strategies. Michael brings a wealth of knowledge and experience, offering deep insights into the foundational challenges and strategic imperatives of cybersecurity.
At the heart of our discussion is the critical importance of data security. Michael prompts us to consider the intrinsic value of our data, urging businesses to reflect on whether they can operate without certain datasets. This perspective shifts the conversation...2021-08-1033 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyPrakash Darji, General Manager of Digital Experience at Pure Storage: The Next Frontier of Storage and SecurityIn this episode of a YSecurity.io production, we sit down with Prakash Darji, General Manager of the Digital Experience Business Unit at Pure Storage, for an insightful conversation about the evolving landscape of storage and security. Prakash brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the table, offering a glimpse into the future of these critical technology sectors as envisioned by one of the industry's leaders.
The discussion kicks off with an exploration of Pure Storage's strategic acquisition of Portworx, a move that underscores the company's commitment to leading in the storage and security domains. Prakash...2021-07-2636 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyLeigh Honeywell, Founder and CEO of Tall Poppy, The Human Side of Privacy and Security: Online Harassment and AbuseJoin me for an interview with Leigh Honeywell. As founder and CEO of Tall Poppy, she's building tools and services to help companies protect their employees from online harassment and abuse.
Together, we share many vulnerable and authentic moments as we explore online harassment, abuse, and how Tall Poppy helps humans navigate difficult situations while still building a thriving business that makes the web better for all of us.
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The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyWesley Belleman of California Air National Guard and Palo Alto Networks: Security Operations Center from Military and Private Industry PerspectivesAn interview with Wesley Belleman, Cyber Warfare Operator at the California Air National Guard and System Engineer at Palo Alto Networks, and his journey through Security Operations in the United Space Space Force.
In this episode, we dive into what a SOC is, how new technology changes our ability to respond to threats, and what the open problems are still open. We explore the cultural differences between civilian and military security operations and discuss various open-source projects such as Security Onion or MITRE Att&ck that can be used to build your own SOC.
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The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyDaniel Feldman, Cloud Security Architect at HPE, Service Authentication with SPIFFE and SPIREAn interview with Daniel Feldman, Cloud Security Architect at HPE (formerly Scytale.io), as we discuss his journey through service authentication with the open standard SPIFFE and the implementation SPIRE.
In this episode, Daniel tells the story of how he came across this problem of authentication at Veritas Technologies, why he joined a small startup Scytale.io to continue focusing on his security journey, and touch on what it's like at Hewlett Packard Enterprise. We end on a forward-looking note on what the future of cloud security might look like, with many challenging and open c...2021-06-0341 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAndrew Gontarczyk, CISO of Pure Storage: Building a Security TeamAn interview with Andrew Gontarczyk, Chief Information Security Officer at Pure Storage, on the challenges of building a security team.
When is the right time for a company to build a security team? What types of Security Teams are there (Product Security, Infrastructure Security, DevSecOps, Red Team, Blue Team, Purple Teams), and what do they do? As a security leader, how do you influence the rest of a company towards a more secure posture? What are your favorite interview questions, and why? What role does diversity play in your team building? What's your leadership style? E...2021-05-1741 min
The Security Podcast of Silicon ValleyAnand Ganesh, Founding Software Architect at Hammerspace: Data-as-a-Service solves traditional security problemsJoin me for an interview with Anand Ganesh, Founding Software Architect at Hammerspace, to discuss how storageless data solves traditional B2B storage security problems.
What is storageless data? How does Hammerspace encrypt data at rest? How do disaster recovery, backup, and snapshot data protection mechanisms work in Hammerspace? Why does data-as-a-service eliminate the need for fail-overs (passive-to-active transitions)? How do permissions work? How does intelligent data classification work in Hammerspace? How does Hammerspace help a customer recover from a ransomware attack? Do we have to trust our storage vendors such as AWS, Google, Azure, or even on...2021-05-0729 min