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About ArtEpisode 199: The Art of Reinvention - with Lora JakobsenReinvention isn’t about starting over. It’s about listening—closely—to who you’re becoming.In this episode of About Art, I speak with Lora Jakobsen about leadership before titles, creativity beyond the arts, and how community shapes both personal growth and professional impact. From her early background in the performing arts to her current work in climate tech at ZeroNorth, Lora’s journey is a powerful reminder that the skills we develop in one chapter often become the foundation for the next. We talk about:•Reinvention as an ongoing practice• Why art sh...
2026-01-271h 03About ArtEpisode 198: Art makes us feel less alone— with Josh ZuckermanIn this episode of About Art, Heidi Zuckerman speaks with actor Josh Zuckerman about creativity, vulnerability, and why art—at its best—helps us feel less alone.Josh has worked professionally in film and television since his late teens, with an eclectic career that spans comedy, drama, and horror. He currently appears in the Paramount+ series School Spirits and previously starred as the lead in The CW’s Significant Mother. His film work ranges from comedies such as Sex Drive and Austin Powers: Goldmember to dramas including Oppenheimer, The Hottest State, and CBGB, as well as genre films like F...
2026-01-2055 minAbout ArtEpisode 195: What It Means to Paint a Life — with Katherine BradfordHow can abstraction carry emotion, identity, and lived experience?In this episode of About Art, Heidi Zuckerman speaks with painter Katherine Bradford, whose luminous work bridges the personal, mythic, and communal. Bradford moved from Maine to New York in the 1980s as a single mother raising school-age twins and became part of the first wave of artists to shape the Williamsburg art community. After more than a decade navigating the Manhattan gallery world, her work has since been recognized internationally and is held in major museum collections.Their conversation spans Bradford’s five-decade painting career, ab...
2025-12-3053 minAbout ArtEpisode 194: How Cultural Ecosystems Shape the Future of Art — with Tokini Peterside-SchwebigIn this episode of About Art, Heidi Zuckerman speaks with Tokini Peterside-Schwebig, founder of ART X and ART X Lagos, the leading international art fair in West Africa. Through ART X, Peterside-Schwebig has played a pivotal role in positioning Lagos on the global cultural stage while remaining deeply committed to local communities and creative voices.Their conversation explores the development of ART X Lagos; the importance of engaging both local and international audiences; connecting African artists and collectors; and supporting new generations of creatives through initiatives such as ART X Live!, the ART X Prize, and ART...
2025-12-2352 minAbout ArtEpisode 193: How Fashion Becomes Resistance — with Carla FernándezWhat does it mean to read fashion—not just as style, but as culture, politics, and lived experience?In this episode of About Art, Heidi Zuckerman speaks with designer Carla Fernández, founder of the Mexico City–based fashion house dedicated to preserving and revitalizing the textile knowledge of Indigenous and mestizo communities across Mexico. Fernández’s work demonstrates how manual methods, collaboration, and tradition can generate fashion that is ethical, innovative, and forward-looking.Their conversation explores the connection between head, heart, and hand; the importance of going slowly; creation through trust and friendship; and why...
2025-12-161h 00About Art150. Heidi Zuckerman “Ask Me Anything” Part IIThis is the second “Ask Me Anything” episode with our founder and host Heidi Zuckerman, a globally recognized leader in contemporary art, a prolific content generator, and a fierce advocate for Why Art Matters! In addition to being the first woman to build two art museums and raising nearly $200M dollars for museums, she has had hundreds of courageously authentic conversations with artists and other people she finds interesting that are featured on five years and 150 podcasts and in four volumes of her Conversations with Artists book series. She also recently authored Why Art Matters: The Bearable Lightness of Bein...
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About Art111. Mark MandersThis episode is a rare, live conversation between Zuckerman and artist Mark Manders recorded as part of an exhibition opening walk through in Los Angeles!
For more than three decades, Mark Manders has developed an endless self-portrait in the form of sculpture, still life, and architectural plans. Described by the artist as his ongoing “self-portrait as a building,” Manders’ works present mysterious and evocative tableaux that allow viewers to construct their own narrative conclusions and meanings. Initially inspired by an interest in writing and literature, Manders’ first conception of the self-portrait was more literal.
He and Zuck...
2023-03-2139 minAbout Art110. Derrick AdamsDerrick Adams is a multi-disciplinary artist living and working in Brooklyn, NY. Adams probes how the experiences and narratives of Black communities are reflected in and refracted by American history, entertainment, consumerism, iconography, and the dynamic relationship between personal identity and cultural environment. Expanding the dialogue around contemporary Black life and culture, through scenes of normalcy and perseverance, he developed and presents an iconography of joy, leisure, and the pursuit of happiness.
He and Zuckerman spoke about confidence, formed language, times of invisibility, fun, artist friendships, celebrating yourself without explaining, and taking chances! is a multi-disciplinary artist...
2023-03-0745 min
About Art106. Heidi Zuckerman Ask Me AnythingWith Episode 106 we have changed a few things up! First, our name, we have dropped the word conversations from the podcast title. The podcast is “About Art” so that’s what we’re now calling it! Simple and elegant.
Second, we added a new photo! The previous one was when OCMA/Orange County Museum of Art was under construction, the new one is from the opening press conference.
And, third, this is our first “Ask Me Anything” episode. Thank you so much to everyone who sent in your questions, we were overwhelmed by the number! We have enoug...
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About Art102. Ella Fontanals-CisnerosElla Fontanals-Cisneros is a philanthropist, entrepreneur and collector of contemporary art. She began collecting art in the 1970s and her collection, which today has more than 2500 works, has an international profile with emblematic figures of modern and contemporary art with a focus on Latin American art. She is also cofounder of CIFO, a non-profit organization that fosters cultural exchange and enrichment of the arts. In this position, she recently worked to launch the CIFO-Ars Electronica Awards (in partnership with Ars Electronica) to advance the work of Latin American artists working with new media and technology, an underfunded area of...
2022-11-1550 minAbout Art101. Salah M. HassanDr. Salah M. Hassan is founding Director of The Africa Institute. Hassan concurrently holds positions at Cornell University as the Distinguished Professor of Arts & Sciences in African and African Diaspora Art History and Visual Culture in the Department of Africana Studies and Research Center; in the Department of History of Art and Visual Studies; and as Director of the Institute for Comparative Modernities (ICM). Hassan also served as Professor of History of Art in African and African American Studies and Fine Art at Brandeis University, where he was previously awarded the Madeleine Haas Russell Professorship in the Departments of...
2022-11-011h 02About Art100. Cristina IglesiasCristina Iglesias is a Spanish born artist who studied Chemical Sciences at the University of the Basque Country and Ceramics and Sculpture at the Chelsea College of Art in London. Her museum exhibitions include Centro Botín, Santander, Spain; Museo Reina Sofía, Madrid; Ludwig Museum, Cologne; Whitechapel Art Gallery, London; and Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, New York. She additionally has been commissioned to create major projects and installations at Bloomberg headquarters, London; Mexican Foundation of Environmental Education, Baja, California; Museo del Prado, Madrid; and Royal Museum of Fine Art, Antwerp, among many others.
She and Zuckerman di...
2022-10-1840 minAbout Art98. Sandra Jackson-DumontSandra Jackson-Dumont is the Director and CEO of the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art. Tasked with leading the institution through its opening and beyond, she comes to the museum from the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City, where she has served as the Frederick P. and Sandra P. Rose Chairman of Education and Public Programs since 2014. Throughout her career, Jackson-Dumont has developed programming around museum collections and special exhibitions to engage a broad range of audiences. She also served for eight years as the deputy director for education and public programs and adjunct curator in modern and...
2022-10-0457 minAbout Art97. Moshe SafdieMoshe Safdie is an architect, urban planner, educator, theorist, and author. In 1964 he established his own firm to realize Habitat ’67, an adaptation of his undergraduate thesis and a turning point in modern architecture. Embracing a comprehensive and humane design philosophy, Safdie is committed to architecture that is informed by the geographic, social, and cultural elements that define a place; and that responds to human needs and aspirations. Over a celebrated 50-year career, Safdie has explored the essential principles of socially responsible design with a distinct visual language. His wide range of completed projects include cultural, educational, and civic institutions; ne...
2022-09-2049 minAbout Art95. Jérôme SansJérôme Sans began his career in the early 1980s as one of the first independent curators in Europe. His mission has been to rethink contemporary art exhibition making through an engagement with emerging artists. He is the former director of the Ullens Center for Contemporary Art in Beijing, co-founder of the Palais de Tokyo in Paris, and creator, and former creative director and editor-in-chief of the French cultural magazine L’Officiel Art, former artistic director of Rives de Saône-River Movie, former co-artistic director to the Grand Paris Express project, France's largest urban redefinition through culture initiative since...
2022-08-2343 minAbout Art94. Marianne BoeskyMarianne Boesky established her eponymous gallery in New York in 1996. Since its inception, the gallery has represented and supported the work of emerging and established contemporary artists of all media and genres. In its first decade, the gallery was instrumental in launching the careers of major artists including Barnaby Furnas, Takashi Murakami, Yoshitomo Nara, Sarah Sze, and Lisa Yuskavage. The gallery currently represents many significant international artists, including Ghada Amer, Jennifer Bartlett, Sanford Biggers, Pier Paolo Calzolari, Donald Moffett, and Frank Stella. Boesky relocated her flagship gallery from SoHo to Chelsea in 2001, and in 2016, the gallery expanded its flagship...
2022-08-0950 minAbout Art93. Hebru BrantleyHebru Brantley was born and raised in Chicago. A product of the 80's, Brantley's early inspiration to create visual art derived from the cinematic Blaxploitation and science fiction depicted in the previous decade. His affinity for mythological comic book heroes, Japanimation, and graffiti has strongly influenced his work, and eventually, he began fusing elements of urban society with pop culture. From that, he developed his own unique approach to visual art, layering youthful expression with human emotion, history, and the complexities and challenges of urban life. Brantley creates his work spontaneously and uses an array of mediums such as...
2022-07-2645 minAbout Art92. Fred EversleyFred Eversley’s lenses and mirrored forms reflect and refract the world, and our place within it. Eversley hit his stride with his primary mode of working at the same time the Light and Space movement gained momentum in Southern California. Yet unlike his Light and Space and Finish Fetish peers who often collaborated with scientists and outsourced fabrication of their work, Eversley’s firsthand technical understanding as a scientist himself (Eversley came to Southern California in the 1960s to work as a consulting engineer for NASA and his early career was spent with United States’ largest aerospace company during...
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About Art90. Sanford BiggersSanford Biggers creates hybridized forms that transpose, combine and juxtapose classical and historical subjects to create alternative meanings and produce what he calls “future ethnographies.” His work is an interplay of narrative, perspective, and history that speaks to current social, political, and economic happenings while also examining the contexts that bore them. His diverse practice positions him as a collaborator with the past through explorations of often-overlooked cultural and political narratives from American history.
Zuckerman curated his first one-person museum exhibition 20 years ago this year and will open the new Orange County Museum of Art with a new si...
2022-06-1450 minAbout Art89. Leo VillarealLeo Villareal works with pixels and binary code to create complex, rhythmic compositions in light. His goal is to create a rich environment in which emergent behavior can occur without a preconceived outcome. His work is focused on stripping systems down to their essence to better understand the underlying structures and rules that govern how they work. He is interested in lowest common denominators such as pixels or the zeros and ones in binary code. The resulting forms move, change, interact and ultimately grow into complex organisms that are inspired by mathematician John Conway's work with cellular automata and t...
2022-05-3141 minAbout Art88. Fred TomaselliFred Tomaselli’s work reveals a uniquely American vision. Growing up in Southern California, he was influenced by both the manufactured unreality of theme parks and the music and drug countercultures of Los Angeles during the 1970s and 80s. His distinctive melding of these traditions coalesces in an updated, personalized, folk-driven vision of the American West. Tomaselli amasses pills, herbs and other drugs, along with images of plants, flowers, birds, and anatomical illustrations carefully cut from books. Pulling from this visual archive, Tomaselli creates baroque paintings that draw upon a range of art historical sources and decorative traditions—like quil...
2022-05-1740 minAbout Art87. Robert NavaRobert Nava draws inspiration from sources ranging from prehistoric cave paintings to Egyptian art and cartoons to create hybrid monsters populating a mythical contemporary world. Rendered through a raw, energetic mixing of spray paint, acrylics, and grease pencil, his large-scale paintings of fantastical beasts exude a playful candidness that defies the pretensions of high art. An MFA graduate from Yale University, Nava builds on the gesturalism of Cy Twombly and Jean-Michel Basquiat.
He and Zuckerman discuss the energy he utilizes and creates, what different people see in the same imagery, the importance of heart, how he describes...
2022-05-0332 minAbout Art85. Mike KaplanMike Kaplan is President and CEO of Aspen Skiing Company for the last 17 years. He recently announced that after 30 years with the company, that the 2022-23 winter season would be his last at the helm of the organization. Together he and Zuckerman in a completely unprecedented, brave, and innovative way collaborated to place art by world renowned contemporary artists on all lift ticket products and to integrate art into the company in unexpected places and ways.
He and Zuckerman discuss powder days, flow state, focusing on paths to success, being taken out of your place, noble pursuits...
2022-04-0547 minAbout Art84. Tamar ZagurskyTamar Zagursky was born in Beer-Sheva, Israel in 1975 to an Israeli born Engineer father and an American born English teacher and translator mother. She grew up in a small town in the Negev desert and Zagursky served as a tank driver in the Israel army. From 2002 to 2020 she was the Director of Sommer Contemporary Art in Tel-Aviv, one of top galleries in Israel, curating exhibitions and representing the gallery at art fairs all over Europe and the United States. In 2029 she began to manage the studio of Guy Zagursky, a renowned Israeli sculptor and her husband. She also launched SID...
2022-03-2239 minAbout Art83. Christopher LewChristopher Y. Lew is Chief Artistic Director at Horizon Art Foundation and Outland Art. He has over fifteen years of experience working at American museums and arts nonprofits. He is a former curator at the Whitney Museum of American Art where he oversaw the emerging artist program and was co-curator of the 2017 Whitney Biennial. At the Whitney, he organized Pope.L: Choir (2019), Kevin Beasley: A view of a landscape (2018), and mounted the first US solo exhibitions for several artists. Prior to joining the Whitney, he was assistant curator at MoMA PS1. Lew has contributed to publications including Art AsiaPacific, Art Jou...
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About Art80. Tyler RollinsAfter more than a decade as an art dealer and gallery owner specializing in contemporary Southeast Asian art, in the last year Tyler Rollins founded a nonprofit organization nurturing connections between contemporary art and religious faith. The Foundation for Spirituality and the Arts is based in Charleston, SC and forefronts a focus on transcendence and orienting oneself to a higher power knowing that these can be a source of insight, illumination, and inspiration.
He and Zuckerman discuss Edgar Allan Poe, how to build a community, the Holy City, justifications for art, soulful connections, polite conversations, pandemic introspection...
2022-02-281h 06About Art82. Paula CooperFollowing studies in Paris, Paula Cooper (b. 1938, MA) entered the New York art world aged 21 working at the World House Galleries on the Upper East Side. In 1964 she opened the Paula Johnson Gallery, where she showed work by Walter de Maria and Bob Thompson, among others. From 1965 to 1967 Cooper served as the Director of the artist’s cooperative Park Place, whose members included Mark di Suvero, Robert Grosvenor and David Novros––artists she continues to work with today. Paula Cooper opened the first art gallery in SoHo at 96-100 Prince Street in 1968 with a benefit for the Student Mobilization Commit...
2022-02-2231 minAbout Art81. Katie GeminderKatie Geminder, Co-founder & Chief of Strategy at Cent, has held senior-level strategy, product, and design roles at Amazon, Apple, Facebook, and Zynga and has advised some of the most successful startup founders in history, guiding business-critical decisions that shape company branding, messaging, user experience, product strategy, and design. She has consulted with C-suite executives at startups in a variety of verticals, including e-commerce, social media, entertainment, cyber, and blockchain.
She and Zuckerman discuss empathy, ubiquity and simultaneity, being a creator, meeting the unmet need, pattern matching, not being technical, NFT “crap,” explaining crypto, block chain and NFTs, scar...
2022-02-0845 minAbout Art79. Words and Wisdom from 2021 (Part 2)On episode 79 we close out our second year of programming the “Conversations About Art” podcast!
If you listen in you know that Heidi Zuckerman loves art and artists. And that she really enjoys impactful conversations with interesting people about things that matter.
This episode is a compilation of excerpts from 10 guests featured in 2021. Part II offers the words and wisdom of Sonja Perkins, Matty Mo, Glenn Kaino, Kemi Ilensami, and Adam Pendleton. We know you will enjoy what you hear! Thank you so much for being part of our community!
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2021-12-2158 minAbout Art78. Words and Wisdom from 2021 (Part 1)The last two episodes of 2021 celebrate two solid years of the Conversations About Art podcast with compilations of excerpts from 10 guests featured in 2021. Part I offers the words and wisdom of Nicole Perlroth, Brad Cloepfil, Lily Stockman, Allison Glenn, and Beth Pickens. In another life defining year Zuckerman expresses her profound gratitude for the time, generous conversation, and community this podcast and these conversations have afforded and created!
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2021-12-0756 minAbout Art77. Jerry GarciaJerry Garcia is a principal at Olson Kundig since 2006. Throughout his tenure in Seattle, he has been an active instigator in the dialogue between architecture, art and the community at large. Working across a broad range of project types and scales, from 200 square-foot cabins on wheels to high-rises around the world, Jerry’s work has received numerous design awards and appeared in publications such as Architecture, Architectural Record, and Art+Auction. For Jerry, “Good architecture rewards inspection – the deeper you look, the more you see.”
He and Zuckerman discuss work being fun, the reach out, professional rebellion, not want...
2021-11-231h 06About Art76. Lily StockmanLily Stockman’s paintings are arrangements of biomorphic shapes, planes, and borders that draw from her affinity for the natural world and interest in the organizing principles of structure, from poetry meter to musical form. Building her linen surfaces up in layers of luminous oil, she references and borrows from influences ranging from the palette of Fra Angelico’s 15th-century frescoes, to the line work of 18th-century Rajput miniature paintings, and the compositions of 19th-century “gift drawings” made by Shaker women. Her passion for the landscapes that so deeply inform her work connects her to a lineage of American abstract...
2021-11-021h 02About Art75. Lucy BullLucy Bull makes visceral paintings that appeal directly to the senses. Synesthetic fields of shape and color, the paintings are described in sonic, tactile, or even emotional terms that evade rational logic and are unique to each viewer. Worlds take shape across their varied surfaces and just as quickly fall away again; similarly, just when the act of looking generates optical overload or disruptive dissonance, Bull’s accumulations of marks reveal discernible traces of planning and hard-fought negotiations with her materials, leading the viewer back toward the concrete realities of pigment, medium, and surface. As she engages in these op...
2021-10-191h 00About Art74. Joost BoslandJoost Bosland is one of the thirteen owners of Stevenson, a gallery with spaces in Cape Town and Johannesburg, and an office in Amsterdam. He has been with the gallery since a three-month internship in 2005. Among the artists Bosland works closely with at the gallery are Moshekwa Langa, Zanele Muholi, Robin Rhode, and Viviane Sassen. Stevenson opened in 2003, and currently represents 31 artists and employs 34 people. In the absence of local institutions dedicated to contemporary art, from 2005 to 2015 the gallery was instrumental in bringing international artists to South Africa, often for the first time.
He and Zuckerman discuss...
2021-10-0559 minAbout Art73. Sophie ChahinianSophie Chahinian is a filmmaker and the founder of the The Artist Profile Archive (TAPA). TAPA produces short artist documentary profiles on contemporary artists to create an archive thereby making contemporary art more accessible to wider audiences. All the films are available for free on TAPA’s website and social media channels. Her recent documentary profiles include Alexandra Grant and Robert Longo. Growing up in Los Angeles, Chahinian became interested in independent film production through her work with Light and Space artist Eric Orr in the late 1990s.
She and Zuckerman discuss the creativity of the kitchen, the...
2021-09-211h 02About Art72. Shlomi RabiShlomi Rabi is a twenty-year veteran of the auction world. Most recently he held the position of Vice President, Head of the Photographs Department for the Americas at Christie’s, where he oversaw a record number of single-owner auctions. During his tenure in the auction industry, Shlomi closely worked on multiple institutional collaborations, which included the Museum of Modern Art, New York; Art Institute of Chicago; Aperture Foundation, and Elton John AIDS Foundation. As an immigrant from the Middle East raised in Central America, Shlomi’s passion for the arts is informed by his desire to champion and empower creati...
2021-09-071h 02About Art71. Casey ReitzCasey Reitz is President of the Segerstrom Center of the Arts, a multi-disciplinary cultural institution in Costa Mesa, CA, appointed in 2019. Since 2010, Reitz served as Executive Director of Second Stage Theater in New York City, winning a Tony Award as Best Musical Producer of Dear Evan Hansen in 2017, and where he successfully led the acquisition, renovation and re-opening of Broadway’s Helen Hayes Theater. With the launching of the Hayes, Second Stage became only the 4th non-profit with a permanent home on Broadway. Prior to Second Stage, Reitz was the Director of Development at The Public Theater. He holds an M...
2021-08-241h 00About Art70. Cathy KimballCathy Kimball served as Executive Director and Chief Curator of the San Jose Institute of Contemporary Art (ICA) for twenty years and planned her retirement as the ICA turned 40 in 2020. She is curating the Marcus Lyon project, "De.Coded: A Human Atlas of Silicon Valley" by the Packard Foundation, scheduled for 2022 at the ICA. Previously she held curatorial roles at the San Jose Museum of Art and the New Jersey Center for the Arts.
She and I discuss defining a curatorial legacy, knowing who to listen to, balancing a career and a life, prioritizing family, graceful exits...
2021-08-1057 minAbout Art69. Aparajita JainAparajita Jain is the co-director of Nature Morte Art Limited since 2012, when she bought a controlling interest in the leading contemporary art gallery. She is also the Founder of terrain.art, India’s first blockchain powered art platform and co-founder of India’s first international sculpture park with the Government of Rajasthan, in Jaipur. She was listed as one among eight influential women in the Indian art world by ARTSY, one of 30 influential women in the art world by ELLE magazine, amongst the 51 art people changing the art world by Observer and amongst the top 100 creatives in India by Harp...
2021-07-271h 02About Art68. Sonja Hoel PerkinsSonja Hoel Perkins invests in people and companies that matter. She is the founder of The Perkins Fund, Project Glimmer and Broadway Angels. Project Glimmer inspires every girl to envision and realize her empowered future. Broadway Angels is a network of top female venture capitalists and entrepreneurs. Sonja has been a venture capitalist for over 30 years and was named one of the “Top Most Powerful People in Global Finance”. Sonja serves on the boards of Mercy BioAnalytics, Project Glimmer, The Pristine Mind Foundation and The Center for Politics at The University of Virginia.
She and Zuckerman discuss being inc...
2021-06-2958 minAbout Art67. Kemi IlesanmiKemi Ilesanmi has been a DMV clerk, receptionist, business school dropout, Minnesota State Fair ribbon winner, museum curator, foundation officer, and now Executive Director of The Laundromat Project, a NYC arts nonprofit that advances artists and neighbors as change agents in their own communities. She cares about cultural and community care, #BlackLivesMatter, and all things Obama.
She and Zuckerman discuss issues of well-being and taking a sabbatical, what makes you a happier person, actual and false urgency, bringing people together, purpose and what makes sense, showing ourselves to ourselves, defining what love means, the superpower of being...
2021-06-1556 minAbout Art66. Jeanne Greenberg RohatynJeanne Greenberg Rohatyn is a gallerist, art advisor, and independent curator. A fierce activist, she is committed to feminist and progressive ideas and a belief in art’s power to bring about social change. Greenberg Rohatyn founded her first gallery space in 2002, later adding venues on the Bowery in 2007 and 2010. Known for breaking hierarchies between design and high art, in 2017, she founded Salon 94 Design. She has championed artists such as Huma Bhabha, Judy Chicago, Katy Grannan, David Hammons, Lyle Ashton Harris, and Betty Woodman among many others.
She and Zuckerman discuss a shared love of architecture, growing up...
2021-06-011h 01About Art65. Magnus ReschMagnus Resch is an art-market economist, serial entrepreneur, and bestselling author, as well as a Professor for art management, lecturing at Yale University. He holds a Ph.D. in economics and studied at Harvard, the LSE and University of St. Gallen. His career has been portrayed in a Harvard Business School case study and in various articles with the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Vanity Fair, and the Financial Times.
He and I discuss the difference between the art world and the art market, why artists should spend less time in their studios, finding a niche...
2021-05-1859 minAbout Art64. Beth PickensBeth Pickens is a Los Angeles-based consultant for artists and arts organizations. Since 2010 she has provided career consultation, grant writing, fundraising, and financial, project, and strategic planning services for artists and arts organizations throughout the U.S. She understands artists as people who are deeply, profoundly compelled to be creatively engaged. She is the author of Make Your Art No Matter What: Moving Beyond Creative Hurdles, published in 2021, and Your Art Will Save Your Life, published in 2018.
She and I discuss working with artists, how life is hard, having an extra soul, returning to yourself, death, God...
2021-05-0456 minAbout Art63. Nicole PerlrothNicole Perlroth covers cybersecurity and digital espionage for The New York Times. She has covered Russian hacks of nuclear plants, airports, and elections, North Korea's cyberattacks against movie studios, banks and hospitals, Iranian attacks on oil companies, banks and the Trump campaign and hundreds of Chinese cyberattacks, including a months-long hack of The Times. Her first book, “This Is How They Tell Me The World Ends,” about the global cyber arms race, was published in February 2021. The book, and several of her Times articles, have been optioned for television. A Bay Area native, Ms. Perlroth is a guest lecturer at th...
2021-04-201h 04About Art62. Allison M. GlennAllison M. Glenn is a curator and writer deeply invested in working closely with artists to develop ideas, artworks, and exhibitions that respond to and transform our understanding of the world. She is an Associate Curator, Contemporary Art at Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art, and she curates exhibitions across the contemporary program at Crystal Bridges and the Momentary, a new contemporary art space and satellite of Crystal Bridges. Prior to working at Crystal Bridges, she was the Manager of Publications and Curatorial Associate for Prospect New Orleans’ international art triennial Prospect.4.
She and Zuckerman discussed regionalism, the...
2021-04-061h 03About Art61. Glenn KainoGlenn Kaino is an American conceptual artist based in Los Angeles. By integrating innovative methodologies with established art historical traditions, Kaino orchestrates spectacular aesthetic phenomena that engage with, and offer critical commentary on the collective contemporary consciousness. His oeuvre is omnidisciplinary. It predominantly includes sculpture, painting, filmmaking, performance, installation, and large scale public work. His practice is fundamentally idea based. As an art student in the 1990s at UC Irvine and UC San Diego, Kaino adopted a layered, philosophical approach to art making. Simultaneously, he also immersed him self in the study of computers and digital technology. His practice...
2021-03-2354 minAbout Art60. Alia AliAlia Ali works between photography, video, and installation, addressing the politicization of the body, histories of colonization, imperialism, sexism, and racism through projects that take pattern and textile as their primary motif. Textile has been a constant in her practice, and she has recently begun making her own patterns and prints. Her work is also informed by discourses of criminality, Yemeni Futurism, and feminist theory, drawing upon stories including the nostalgic past of the Queen of Sheba.
She and Zuckerman discuss indigenous symbolism, what is threatening, how to use beauty, vanishing countries, shifts of allegiance, abduction of...
2021-03-1655 minAbout Art59. Matty MoMatty Mo is a conceptual artist and technology entrepreneur best known for creating, "The Most Famous Artist." Through this platform, Matty Mo and his global community of multidisciplinary creators make installations, stunts, and exhibitions that drive culture and penetrate the mainstream media.
He and Zuckerman discuss the most famous artist community, $ART coin, performance versus conceptual versus stunt art, NFTs, monoliths, and what happens to people who apologize!
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2021-03-0954 minAbout Art58. Rebecca Anne ProctorRebecca Anne Proctor is a journalist, presenter, and consultant who writes on culture, cultural policy, contemporary affairs, international relations, the art market, art exhibitions, luxury, fashion, food, hotels and travel for Arab News, Artnet, The Forward, Frieze, Vogue Arabia, Wallpaper, ArtNews, The National, Galerie Magazine, T Emirates: The New York Times Style Magazine, Bloomberg Businessweek Middle East, the BBC, and many others. In April 2018 she moderated a panel at the Culture Summit in Abu Dhabi on Emerging Trends in the Arts and Media Worldwide. And in March 2018 she appeared as a judge on Fashion Star Season 3, Reem Acra’s hi...
2021-03-0259 minAbout Art57. Sarah SuttonSarah Sutton is Principal of Sustainable Museums. For three decades she has worked in the museum field with a specific focus on climate awareness in the cultural sector. Sutton works with the leadership of individual institutions as they prepare and launch mission-specific climate initiatives, or plan more strategic engagement with initiatives around environmental sustainability and climate resilience.
She and Zuckerman discuss museums and the climate crisis, Helen Frankenthaler and her values, LEED certification and the early aught building boom, climate, Covid, economics and equity, “just” doing what we do, how to surface answers you don’t know, how ar...
2021-02-231h 00About Art56. Lynn GoldsmithLynn Goldsmith is more than the “Rock and Roll photographer” of Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, Keith Richards, and so many others. She has made kind, collaborative, and keenly perceptive portraits of world leaders like John Lewis, John McCain, and Jane Goodall. She is an artist who works in photography, painting, performance, spoken word and released “Will Powers” on Island Records in 1983.
Goldsmith and Zuckerman discuss learning instead of judging, seeing more than what other people can see, the camera as a tool for answers, portrait photographers as psychologists, control, pattern interrupts, having a limited amount of time, breaking...
2021-02-1656 minAbout Art55. David GlasserDavid Glasser is the two decade Chairman & CEO of the Ben Uri Gallery and Museum in the U.K. and oversaw its recreation as the first full-scale virtual art museum and research center. Ben Uri Gallery and Museum was founded in 1915 in Whitechapel's Jewish ghetto in the East End of London, by émigré Russian artist Lazar Berson who previously exhibited with Chagall in Paris. In 2000, a new strategic direction was built around scholarship and expanding the remit from solely Jewish artists by incorporating the wider, diverse immigrant artist experience in Britain since 1900.
Glasser and Zuckerman discuss the Be...
2021-02-091h 01About Art54. Thenjiwe Niki NkosiThenjiwe Niki Nkosi is a South African-American painter and multi-media artist. Her work investigates power and its structures – political, social, architectural. Implicit in her examination of these structures is an interrogation of the invisible forces that create them, and an imagining of alternatives. She sees her subject choices as monuments to ideologies, referring to her architecture painting as “portraits” and her human portraits as “figures.”
Nkosi and Zuckerman discuss the practice of being a parent, making things, going “back” places, the narrative of the return home, the faces on money, the struggle for freedom, doing work that matters, who g...
2021-02-021h 01About Art53. Erica KeswinErica Keswin is a workplace strategist who has worked for the past twenty years with some of the most iconic brands in the world as a consultant, speaker, author, and professional dot-connector. Her first book, Bring Your Human to Work: Ten Sure-Fire Ways to Design a Workplace That’s Good for People, Great for Business, and Just Might Change the World, published in 2018 was a best-seller. Her next book, Rituals Roadmap: The Human Way to Transform Everyday Routines Into Workplace Magic is out now.
Keswin and Zuckerman discuss tasting coffee, routines versus rituals, reflecting our values, family di...
2021-01-261h 01About Art52. Brad CloepfilBrad Cloepfil founded Allied Works in 1994 in Portland, Oregon. Since 2000, the practice has grown steadily through the completion of major museum projects, innovative educational facilities, residences and workplaces of diverse scale, purpose and character. Allied Works was established to engage artists, builders, and thinkers in a collective pursuit of new expression. Their ethic is boundless curiosity and uncommon commitment to creating beautiful, moving, and meaningful work.
Cloepfil and Zuckerman discuss architecture, the impact of geography on creativity, ritual practice, “the Robert Frost of architects,” the role of the room, finding an architecture you don’t yet know, that t...
2021-01-191h 00About Art51. Adam PendletonPulling from a wide range of mediums including collage, painting, writing, printmaking, video, and publishing, Adam Pendleton utilizes language as his primary tool, recontextualizing appropriated imagery to shed light on underrepresented historical narratives. He is particularly interested in social resistance and avant-garde artistic movements and has synthesized a variety of practices under the rubric of "Black Dada,” a term borrowed from the poet Amiri Baraka. This year Pendleton will present Who Is Queen, a major new project in the atrium of The Museum of Modern Art, New York.
Pendleton and Zuckerman discuss preventing unnecessary distraction, the fact and...
2021-01-1258 minAbout Art50. Words and Wisdom from 2020 (Part II)In Episode 50 of “Conversations About Art,” Heidi Zuckerman introduces excerpts from 14 episodes featured in the second half of 2020. We hear the words and wisdom of Sam Falls, Jen Guidi, Bharti Kher, Christopher Bedford, Guerilla Girls, Noah Horowitz, Michelle Maccarone, Christian Lutien, Daniel Arsham, Sean Green, Ricky Gates, Patrick Steel and Pete McBride! As stated previously, in what was indisputably the wildest, most unexpected, isolating, surprising, and also strangely hopeful year, Zuckerman expresses her profound gratitude for the time, generous conversation, and community this podcast and these conversations have afforded and created! This is part two of a two part extend...
2021-01-051h 00About Art49. Words and Wisdom from 2020 (Part I)This final episode of 2020 pulls together excerpts from 15 episodes featured in the first half of 2020. We listen to the words and wisdom of Rich Roll, Mary Weatherford, Seth Price, Christina Quarles, Hank Willis Thomas, Tom Sachs, Richard Phillips, Helen Molesworth, Lance Armstrong, Amy Cappellazzo, JiaJia Fei, John Hickenlooper, Dennis Scholl, Richard Betts, and Kara Goldin. In what was indisputably the wildest, most unexpected, isolating, surprising, and also strangely hopeful year, Zuckerman expresses her profound gratitude for the time, generous conversation, and community this podcast and these conversations have afforded and created!
This is part one of a t...
2020-12-291h 06About Art48. Ralph SteadmanRalph Steadman is a UK satirist, artist, cartoonist, illustrator, and writer whose work is synonymous with the counterculture of the 1970s. Renowned for his collaborations with iconic American writer Hunter S. Thompson, he formed an unlikely duo that created "Gonzo" journalism. This lifelong collaboration included the now-legendary Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, originally published in Rolling Stone magazine, which has since become a cult classic. The subject of numerous books and documentaries, at 84 he still turns his keen and critical eye to politicians and popular culture.
He and I discuss nude models, the British tradition of...
2020-12-221h 06About Art47. Melissa Cowley WolfMelissa Cowley Wolf is the Founder of MCW Projects. With 20 years of experience in philanthropy and programming for cultural institutions across the United States, she is dedicated to re-imagining and democratizing cultural philanthropy to better engage diverse generations and audiences as well as to expanding the next generation of cultural philanthropists, advocates, and audiences. Melissa is also the Director of the Arts Funders Forum, an advocacy, media, convening, and research platform designed to increase private support for arts and culture. Melissa was recently named to the Artnet 2020 Innovators List as one of 51 global innovators transforming the art industry.
2020-12-151h 10About Art46. Bharti KherBharti Kher’s art gives form to quotidian life and its daily rituals in a way that reassesses and transforms their meaning to yield an air of magical realism. Living and working in Delhi, India and born and raised in the U.K., her use of found objects is informed by her own position as an artist located between geographic and social milieus. Her way of working is exploratory: surveying, looking, collecting, and transforming. Her chimeras, mythical monsters, and allegorical tales combine references that are at once topical and traditional, political and poetic.
She and I discuss ge...
2020-12-0858 minAbout Art45. Alison Sokol BlosserAlison Sokol Blosser is Co-President, CEO & Second Generation Winegrower of Sokol Blosser. Sokol Blosser was founded in 1971 when her parents Susan Sokol and Bill Blosser planted their first vines in the Dundee Hills AVA (American Viticultural Area) of the Willamette Valley. At the time, there was no wine industry in Oregon. Today, with over 700 wineries and more than 30,000 acres of planted vineyards, Oregon has grown exponentially and its wines are available throughout the world. Sokol Blosser has survived, grown and prospered as a family-owned and run operation, and has been a key part of developing and shaping Oregon’s no...
2020-12-011h 00About Art44. Sam FallsSam Falls is contemporary American artist whose boundary-defying work applies artistic processes to natural phenomena. The resulting paintings, prints, sculptures, and videos, often insert organic structures into art and man-made objects into nature. "We change the work by being present, and the work changes us by being present,” the artist has said. “We are breaking down and being built up, just like every moment." Falls works intimately with the fundamentals of nature and the transience of life that art best addresses.
He and I discussed the intimacy of nature, the best part of making art, the ambiguous spac...
2020-11-241h 00About Art43. Christopher BedfordChristopher Bedford is the Director of the Baltimore Museum of Art, appointed in May 2016. Prior to joining the BMA, Bedford led the Rose Art Museum at Brandeis University in Massachusetts for four years. In November 2019, it was announced that the Baltimore Museum of Art would only purchase works made by female-identifying artists in 2020 as part of an effort to work towards “re-correcting the canon.”
He and I discuss what putting art in the basement means, the decency and care of John Waters, reliance on attendance as revenue, living our principles in museums, philosophies of deaccessioning, the Sotheby’s auct...
2020-11-1757 minAbout Art42. Noah HorowitzNoah Horowitz is Director Americas for Art Basel since 2015. He is based in New York and is in charge of Art Basel’s show in Miami Beach. Horowitz holds a PhD in art history from the Courtauld Institute of Art, London. His doctoral thesis, Art of the Deal: Contemporary Art in a Global Financial Market, was published by the Princeton University Press in 2011. Previously he was managing director of The Armory Show in New York from 2011 until 2015. And prior to this, in 2009 he became Director of VIP Art Fair, a first-ever virtual international art fair.
We discuss the in...
2020-11-101h 11About Art41. Pete McBridePete McBride is a Native Coloradan who has spent two decades studying the world with a camera. A self-taught photographer, filmmaker, writer, and public speaker, he has traveled on assignment to over 75 countries for the National Geographic Society, Smithsonian, Google, The Nature
Conservancy, and others. After a decade documenting remote expeditions from Everest to Antarctica, McBride decided to focus his cameras closer to home on a subject closer to his heart—his backyard river, the Colorado. His latest project replaced rafting with walking—a lot of it. Over the course of a year, McBride hiked the entire length of G...
2020-11-031h 08About Art40. Sean GreenSean Green is the CEO and Founder of Arternal. Arternal helps art dealers better monetize their relationships. Born in Jamaica and raised in Toronto, Green has cultivated his entrepreneurialism since watching his mom run the family maid service. With a background in computer science, his previous start up connected homeowners to quality contractors.
He and Zuckerman discuss the business of art from the collector’s perspective, the Wayfair ruling, caring about art surviving and thriving, entrepreneurial passion, his mom as a mentor, being a black founder in the artworld, focusing on data, David Leggett and Ebecho Muslimova, Cl...
2020-10-2757 minAbout Art39. Patrick SteelPatrick Steel is the CEO of POLITICO, which strives to be the dominant source for politics and policy in power centers across every continent where access to reliable information, non-partisan journalism and real-time tools creates, informs, and engages a global citizenry. Previously Steel spent 16 years as an investment banker and before that served in the Clinton White House.
He and Zuckerman discuss seeing America through a political campaign, the importance of relationships in building careers, Hilary Clinton’s emails as art, being an extrovert, what transformational leadership looks like, go to questions, the profound impact of the te...
2020-10-201h 15About Art38. Guerrilla GirlsThe Guerrilla Girls is an anonymous group of feminist, female artists devoted to fighting sexism and racism within the art world. The group formed in New York City in 1985 with the mission of bringing gender and racial inequality into focus within the greater arts community. The group employs cultural jamming in the form of posters, books, billboards, and public appearances to expose discrimination and corruption. To remain anonymous, members don gorilla masks and use pseudonyms that refer to deceased female artists. Their identities are concealed because issues matter more than individual identities, they want the focus to be on...
2020-10-131h 05About Art37. Paul BeckerPaul Becker is the Founder and CEO of Art Money. He is an art entrepreneur passionate about empowering people to engage with art through building a sustainable creative economy. Art Money is a global fin-tech helping buy and sell art through a win-win business model, partnering with over 1,000 galleries globally, in the US, Australia, and New Zealand.
He and Zuckerman talked about his business model, the current state of the art world, where there are opportunities, collecting art as an addiction, and how an experience with a work of art can change your life!
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2020-10-061h 05About Art36. Michelle MaccaroneMichelle Maccarone is the founder of eponymous gallery Maccarone. Shortly after 9/11 Maccarone opened in an unorthodox space in a remote neighborhood with no other galleries around. From the beginning, the gallery was an outlier in every way. It was artist-driven and grew out of conversations. It was more of a concept, or a laboratory for experimentation, that didn’t quite fit the traditional model of an art gallery. Recently the gallery's focus is beyond IRL exhibitions as a creative brand that not only manages artists and produces special projects, but also collaborates with venues and corporate partners to create ex...
2020-09-291h 02About Art35. Jennifer GuidiJennifer Guidi is an artist known for her radiant, mandala-like paintings that incorporate sand, oil, and acrylic paint. Her work is an exploration of color, light, and texture, finding symmetry in opposition. The result of Guidi's compositions is both contemporary and timeless.
She and Zuckerman talked about the attitude needed to make art, finding the perfect place, TikTok and home ec, meditation as a creative resource, how to empty everything out, the input and output of energy, mark making, and the courage and patience of finding your voice.
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2020-09-2257 minAbout Art34. Rickey GatesRickey Gates has been described as a “conceptual runner” combining the practice of endurance running with the artistic mediums of photography and writing. After nearly a decade competing on a national and international mountain, trail and ultra running circuit, he took his love for ultra-endurance, storytelling and photography to his project-based runs that have included a run across America, every single street in San Francisco and currently the 50 classic trails of North America. His debut book Cross Country and feature-length film TransAmericana chronicle his 3,700 mile journey across the United States.
He and Zuckerman discuss forced meditation, the poet...
2020-09-151h 02About Art33. Katherine MetzKatherine Metz is one of the most visible spokespersons of the art of Feng Shui in the United States, introducing Feng Shui into mainstream western culture with her lucid and practical conveyance of its sometimes esoteric philosophies. Her focus is the art and science of creating a healthy home and workplace. Metz created Feng Shui Storyboard, an interactive membership where she shares one compelling Feng Shui mystery every month. She explains the tools and techniques used to solve these mysteries; honed from her 30 years of experience as a floor plan detective and 25 years of mastering the teachings of H. H...
2020-09-081h 03About Art32. Kulapat YantrasastKulapat Yantrasast is a thought-leader and practitioner in the fields of architecture, art, and design. Originially from Thailand and now based in Los Angeles, he is the founding partner and Creative Director of wHY, a multidisciplinary design practice organized into dedicated workshops: Buildings, Landscape, Museums, Objects, and Ideas. His museum projects include the Grand Rapids Art Museum, the expansion of the Speed Art Museum in Louisville, KT, gallery design and planning for Harvard Art Museums and the Art Institute of Chicago, and currently a major gallery renovation of the Rockefeller Wing of the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
He and Z...
2020-09-0156 minAbout Art31. Philip TinariPhilip Tinari is a notable writer, critic, art curator, and expert in Chinese contemporary art. Based in Beijing since 2001, Tinari is currently director and CEO of the UCCA Center for Contemporary Art (UCCA) in Beijing.
In an emotional and raw conversation he and Zuckerman discussed the realities of living in China and the deteriorating relations between our countries, radical precarity, key rituals of the art world, objects crossing borders that people no longer can, what translation enables, whether globalization is actually inevitable, fragility and gratitude.
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2020-08-2556 minAbout Art30. Christian LuitenChristian Luiten is a founder in 2015 of Avant Arte, an online platform for the next generation of collectors, which has 2M followers on Instagram. Their goal is to help make great art radically more accessible for their generation. International media reports refer to Avant Arte as "one of the most influential online art blogs” and Christian was named to the Forbes 30 under 30 list last year.
He and Zuckerman discuss finding art through hip-hop, mashing together artists and others, building a business on Instagram, Doug Aitken, and how to make art more popular!
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2020-08-1858 minAbout Art29. Michael ChowMichael Chow is a Chinese-born British-American restaurateur, interior designer, former actor, art collector, father, and artist. He is the co-founder and owner of the Mr. Chow restaurant chain. His father was one of China's most famous actors of his time and the leading figure at the Peking Opera. His mother came from a wealthy family whose fortune had been made in tea. He was sent to a British boarding school when he was 12 and spent his adolescence in Europe; after arriving in London in 1952, he was never able to speak to nor see his father again. He has been married four...
2020-08-1157 minAbout Art28. Patricia MillerPatricia Miller is a visionary manufacturing leader, driving growth and innovation at M4. Under her leadership, M4 was named an Inc 5000 Fastest Growing Company two years in a row. In 2018, Patricia was named to Crain’s Chicago 40 under 40 honoree. Four years ago, Patricia left a successful career in the biotech space to return to her manufacturing roots. She decided to buy her grandpa’s failing business and run it like a start-up, using everything she had learned from her Fortune 500 career in marketing, her passion for entrepreneurship and her creative eye for design to turn M4 into a new kind...
2020-08-0457 minAbout Art27. Alisha WormsleyAlisha B. Wormsley is an interdisciplinary artist and cultural producer based in Pittsburgh, PA, USA. Her work is about collective memory and the synchronicity of time, specifically through the stories of women of color. She states her work is "the future, and the past, and the present, simultaneously. Wormsley has an MFA in Film and Video from Bard College and was awarded the Postdoctoral Research fellowship in art at Carnegie Mellon University. She and Zuckerman discuss motherhood, artist moms, and how to help; matriarchal mystery spaces, reciprocity and agreements, and the release found in spirituality.
This episode is...
2020-07-2858 minAbout Art26. Paul LasterPaul Laster is a writer, editor, curator, artist and lecturer. He is a contributing editor at ArtAsiaPacific and Whitehot Magazine of Contemporary Art and writer for Time Out New York, Harper’s Bazaar Arabia, Galerie Magazine, Sculpture, Cultured, Architectural Digest, Surface, and others. He started The Daily Beast’s art section, and was art editor of Russell Simmons’ OneWorld Magazine. We discuss the punk movement, MoMA’s film program, the business of being an artist, the global art scene, how to pitch story ideas, trust, and things we don’t like.
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2020-07-211h 00About Art25. Esther Kim VaretEsther Kim Varet is the founder of Various Small Fires, a gallery established in 2012 with locations in Los Angeles, California and Seoul, South Korea. VSF focuses primarily on emerging and established American artists, in particular those with practices relating to social justice, climate activism, identity politics, and alternative modalities of visual art production and consumption. She and Zuckerman discuss innovative strategies for the new now, not having her name on the door, Inclusivity, her idea for a crate library, and being a working mom in the art world. *Episode removed at the request of the guest.
2020-07-1400 minAbout Art24. Daniel ArshamDaniel Arsham straddles the line between art, architecture, and performance. He makes architecture do things that it’s not supposed to. From casting contemporary objects in volcanic ash as if found on some future archaeological site to collaborating with Merce Cunningham, Robert Wilson, and Pharrell Williams to founding Snarkitecture, Arsham brings experimentation, historical inquiry, playfulness, and wit to everything he does. He and Zuckerman discuss the dislocation of time, geological forms of growth, allowing for chance, the relationship between collaboration and expanding audience, and doing things that are hard!
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2020-07-0751 minAbout Art23. Yves BéharYves Béhar, Founder and Principal Designer of fuseproject, is a designer, educator, and entrepreneur who believes that integrated product, brand, and experience design are the cornerstones of any business. He is also the two-time recipient of the INDEX Award, making him the only designer to have received the prestigious award twice. Yves is an industry veteran at the forefront of entrepreneurial venture design, co-founding August, FORME Life, and Canopy. He and Zuckerman discuss opportunity, how we can change the way we live, the importance of meaning in life, the generosity and humanity of design, creating memorable moments, and h...
2020-06-3054 minAbout Art22. EzinmaEzinma first picked up the violin when she was three-years old. Born in Lincoln, Nebraska to a Guyanese father and a German-American mother, Ezinma's mixed cultural and ethnic background influenced her musical upbringing and helped mold her into the versatile artist she is today. She has performed at Carnegie Hall, Lincoln Center, and Madison Square Garden. She was inspired to create a new sound with her classical violin. Her music is a blend of virtuosic melodies and orchestral soundscapes with hard hitting beats. She has collaborated with artists such as Beyoncé, Stevie Wonder, Mac Miller, and Clean Bandit. She a...
2020-06-2349 minAbout Art21. Kara GoldinKara Goldin is the founder and CEO of hint inc., the San Francisco-based healthy lifestyle company, best known for hint water and most recently, hint sunscreen. Kara is an operating-entrepreneur and has grown hint to a brand worth hundreds of millions of dollars. In this episode she and Zuckerman talked about how our skin is our largest organ, products that solve problems, the productive aspects of anger, her art educator mom, and happiness as both a business and personal guiding practice.
2020-06-1657 minAbout Art20. Jean JullienJean Jullien is a French graphic artist living and working in Paris. His practice ranges from painting and illustration to photography, video, costume, installations, books, posters and clothing to create a coherent yet eclectic body of work. In this episode he and Zuckerman talk about his clan and his mother’s iconic hairstyle, describing versus telling, what is enough, how to judge cultural impact, clusters, and saying “yes, but.”
2020-06-0949 minAbout Art19. Hank Willis ThomasHank Willis Thomas is a conceptual artist working primarily with themes related to perspective, identity, commodity, media, and popular culture. His work is included in numerous public collections including the Museum of Modern Art in New York; Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, New York; Whitney Museum of American Art. His collaborative projects include Question Bridge: Black Males, In Search Of The Truth (The Truth Booth), Writing on the Wall, and the artist-run initiative for art and civic engagement For Freedoms.
He and Zuckerman discussed anxiety, infinite wisdom, positivity bias, infinite possibility, God, the quality of the question, and the...
2020-06-0254 minAbout Art18. Tom SachsTom Sachs’s sculptures, often recreations of modern icons using everyday materials, are conspicuously handmade; lovingly cobbled together from plywood, resin, steel, and ceramic. The scars and imperfections in the sculptures tell the story of how it came into being and remove it from the realm of miraculous conception. His studio team of ten, functions like a teaching hospital or cult, that worships plywood and an ethos of transparency. Friends for over two decades, he and Zuckerman discuss making as meditation, making the best of limited resources, output before input, what surprises him, the existential abyss, and his secret we...
2020-05-2652 minAbout Art17. JiaJia FeiJiaJia Fei is a digital strategist and founder of the first digital agency for art. She and Zuckerman discussed being an evening person, access to free art museums, how to find your own information, the future of funding and philanthropy and access to techpreneurs, how art can exist for the screen, and what could be their shared Kurt Vonnegut epitaph.
2020-05-1945 minAbout Art16. Richard BettsRichard Betts passed the Court of Master Sommeliers’ Masters Exam on the first attempt, the ninth person ever to do so. He co-founded the wine labels Betts & Scholl in 2003 and Scarpetta in 2006 and founded Sombra Mezcal in 2006. Today, Richard spends his time guiding Astral Tequila, and his newest wine project “An Approach To Relaxation.” Richard is the New York Times best-selling author of “The Essential Scratch & Sniff Guide to Becoming a Wine Expert.” He and Zuckerman discussed the long term effects of nurture, a deep-seated fear of failure, when he proposed to his wife, how it feels to give back, and...
2020-05-1257 minAbout Art15. Amy CappellazzoAmy Cappellazzo is Chairman of the Fine Art division of Sotheby’s. Prior to accepting the position, Cappellazzo founded Art Agency, Partners with Allan Schwartzman, which in January of 2016 Sotheby’s acquired in a groundbreaking deal. Cappellazzo previously served as a market leader in the field of contemporary art at Christie’s, where she rose to the post of Chairman of Post-War & Contemporary Development over thirteen years. She and Zuckerman discussed adult social behavior around art and the future of Not for Profit galas, the pace of museum curating, the highest and best use of anything, a sexy painting by Pat...
2020-05-0545 minAbout Art14. Dennis SchollDennis Scholl is a filmmaker, winemaker, collector, entrepreneur, and artist advocate. In this episode he and Zuckerman talk about him being an obsessive guy, “ going country” and sacred Aboriginal lands, the mistake of not valuing artists, how it feels to live with art placed by other people, and why opening the aperture is key to a meaningful and joyful life!
2020-04-2849 minAbout Art13. Gary SimmonsGary Simmons uses chalk as his main medium, utilizing the traces and ghost like effects of the chalk to portray compelling messages involving racial stereotypes. Throughout his conversation with Zuckerman, they touch on his athletic past, the intricacies of his 50 foot mural at the Dallas Cowboys Stadium, and why he helped dig a trench for Robert Irwin, along with other compelling tales of his youth!
2020-04-2158 minAbout Art12. Kathy DeMarco VanCleveKathy DeMarco VanCleve is the author of books Never Caught, The Difference Between You and Me, and Drizzle, numerous screen plays, and on the faculty of the University of Pennsylvania. In this episode, she and Zuckerman speak about poetry, where glory is found, the importance of being kind, death, cancer, and parenting.
2020-04-1454 minAbout Art10. Sarah ThorntonSarah Thornton is a sociologist who writes about art, design and people. Formerly the chief art market correspondent for The Economist, Thornton is the author of three critically acclaimed books and many influential articles. A Canadian who went to the UK on a prestigious Commonwealth Scholarship, Thornton was hailed as “Britain’s hippest academic.” Now based in San Francisco, Thornton is better known as “the Jane Goodall of the art world.” Zuckerman sat with Thornton in the office in her apartment in San Francisco where they talked about hierarchies within the artworld, our super powers, the truth about being polite, cera...
2020-03-3152 minAbout Art8. Tim BlumOver a 25 year period Tim Blum and Jeff Poe have fostered the careers of artists such as Takashi Murakami, Mark Grotjahn, Henry Taylor, and so many others. In this episode Zuckerman and Blum talk about the first work of art they each bought—in the same year for the same price! —Ram Das, death, and how we all are just walking each other home.
2020-03-1758 minAbout Art7. Rich RollRich Roll is a dad, athlete, and author of Finding Ultra. He also hosts the long running, super interesting, and widely popular Rich Roll podcast. In this episode he and Zuckerman talk about existential crises, alcoholism and ambition, the value of solitude, wisdom, and what art is.
2020-03-031h 00About Art6. Seth PriceZuckerman describes Seth Price as “undeniably one of the coolest people I have ever met!“ She curated his solo museum exhibition, No Technique, which closes at the Aspen Art Museum on March 1, 2020. In this episode they converse about the allure of being unavailable, the power of defocused thinking, creating a sound track for artists, #menswear, and skin. Price in addition to making paintings has designed a fashion line, written a novel, and made music.
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