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The People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA14 | Retention Is a Systems Outcome: Rethinking Workforce Stability in ABA with Dr. Manny RodriguezEvery field has a story about why people leave. In ABA, we often point to burnout, productivity pressure, or not enough “buy-in” from staff. And those things are real. But according to Organizational Behavior Management expert Dr. Manny Rodriguez, they’re rarely the root cause.With over 20 years of experience guiding leaders across Fortune 500 companies, startups, schools, and human service organizations, Manny has seen this pattern repeat itself over and over again. Turnover, disengagement, and leadership fatigue are not personal failures. They are predictable outcomes of poorly designed systems.In this episode, Manny breaks down why or...
2026-01-2146 minThe People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA13 | Why People Stay: The Hidden Conditions That Create Workplace Commitment with Joe MullEvery generation thinks the one behind it doesn’t want to work. But what if the real issue isn’t work ethic at all?In this episode, leadership researcher, author, and founder of Boss Hero School Joe Mull examines what truly fuels commitment in the workplace—and why turnover, call-offs, and disengagement are almost always symptoms of broken systems, not broken people.Listen in as Joe shares the research behind his “Employalty” framework, the three conditions that must exist for commitment to thrive, and what leaders need to stop doing if they want people to...
2026-01-0746 min
Hi Rasmus & FriendsThe Story Behind ABA C.A.R.E.SIn this episode of Hi Rasmus & Friends, host Amy Cook sits down with Holli Beth Clauser, founder of ABA C.A.R.E.S. Staffing and Summit and host of The People Contingency Podcast, for a thoughtful conversation about leadership, lived experience, and the future of ABA. Holli shares her personal autism journey and how it shapes her human-centered approach to supporting and retaining RBTs and BCBAs in a high-burnout field. Together, they explore the tension between traditional ABA and the neurodiversity movement, reimagine what ethical staffing and leadership could look like, and discuss why focusing on people is...
2026-01-0541 minThe People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA12 | How to Build Systems That Actually Develop People (Not Just Manage Them) with Allyson WharamEvery field has stories about why people leave. In ABA, we say it's burnout—the emotional weight, the billable hours pressure, the inconsistent pay. And all of that is real. But it's not the whole story.According to BCBA, instructional designer, and founder of Sidekick Learning Allyson Wharam, the root of retention begins long before burnout ever shows up. It begins in the systems that train us, supervise us, and shape whether people feel like analysts or just interventionists. When supervision cracks, everything downstream does too.In this episode, Allyson explores wh...
2025-12-2451 minThe People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA11 | Attention Management, Culture, & Empowered Productivity with Maura Nevel ThomasMost leaders assume their biggest challenge is time—not enough of it, too much to do, and a calendar that never stops filling. But according to productivity expert and award-winning author Maura Nevel Thomas, time isn’t the problem at all. It’s distraction. And the more we try to solve distraction with time-management tools, the further we drift from meaningful, significant results.In this episode, Maura offers a refreshing and deeply human reframing of productivity: focus less on time and more on attention. In a world of nonstop interrupti...
2025-12-1042 minThe People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA10 | Compassion, Ethics & Mistake-Forward Leadership in ABA with Dr. Tyra SellersMost leaders think solving workforce challenges comes down to data, compliance, or improving systems.But what if the real leverage point is far more human—compassion, ethics, and the courage to have honest conversations?Dr. Tyra Sellers, owner of TP Sellers and one of the most influential voices in modern ABA leadership, challenges us to rethink how we define professionalism, accountability, and decision-making.With over 30 years in ABA service delivery, ethics, supervision, and executive leadership, Tyra brings both clarity and heart to conversations that most leaders avoid.Listen in as she ex...
2025-11-2655 minThe People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA9 | Language, Integrity & Leadership: Rethinking Burnout from the Inside Out with Scott HerbstMost leaders assume burnout comes from heavy workloads, unrealistic targets, or a lack of self-care.But what if the real driver is something far more foundational — the way we relate to ourselves, our language, and even our sense of time?Scott Herbst, founder of SixFlex Training & Consulting, offers a refreshing and deeply human take. He helps leaders see burnout not as a symptom of “too much to do,” but as a breakdown in integrity, alignment, and the stories we tell ourselves about work.Listen in as he explains how language shapes our exp...
2025-11-1250 minThe People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA8 | You Don’t Get a Union—You Earn One: How Approachable Leadership Closes the Trust Gap with Phillip WilsonWhen union whispers start circulating among your staff, most leaders panic. They tighten policies, hold mandatory meetings, or double down on compliance.Phillip Wilson, president of the Labor Relations Institute and founder of Approachable Leadership, invites us to ask a better question: What broke before the whispers began?With decades of labor relations expertise, Phil breaks down how the unions employees seek are almost always symptoms of leadership they don't trust. Listen in as he explains the power distance gap, the difference between compliant and committed teams, and why the best un...
2025-10-2936 min
The People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA7 | Reinforcing the Right Systems: How Behavioral Science Solves Turnover with Dr. Heather McGeeWhen turnover feels endless, most leaders look for quick fixes: bonuses, new policies, tighter oversight.Dr. Heather McGee from Western Michigan University invites us to pause and ask better questions. What if the problem isn’t people, but the systems that shape their behavior?In this episode, Dr. McGee brings her decades of experience in Organizational Behavior Management (OBM) to show how the same scientific rigor we use in clinical settings can impact the workplace.Listen in to learn how data, reinforcement, and environmental design can create teams that prosper—and stay.
2025-10-1448 min
In the Field: The ABA PodcastThe People Side of ABA: Recruiting, Onboarding, and Retaining Talent with Holli ClauserPodcast Episode: The People Side of ABA: Recruiting, Onboarding, and Retaining Talent with Holli ClauserIn this episode of In the Field: The ABA Podcast, I sit down with Holli Beth Clauser, founder of ABA C.A.R.E.S. Staffing, the ABA C.A.R.E.S. Conference, and host of The People Contingency Podcast.Holli brings a wealth of experience from her early days as a behavior technician to her current work helping ABA organizations rethink hiring, onboarding, and retention. We talk about how ABA principles can (and should) be applied...
2025-10-0857 min
Women and WorkWomen and Work: Holli Beth ClauserEver had life completely fall apart — only to realize it was pushing you toward your purpose?That’s exactly what happened to Holli Beth Clauser.She was a young mom navigating the unpredictable world of raising two children — both with unique needs. Between food banks, hospital visits, and sleepless nights, she faced more than her fair share of challenges. But through it all, she discovered something powerful: purpose often hides in hardship.A chance moment at her children’s preschool changed everything. When a teacher noticed how naturally Holli connected with autistic kids, it opened a...
2025-10-0736 min
The People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA6 | People-First Systems: Building Strong Teams and Reducing Turnover with Chris DeferioHigh turnover is one of the biggest headaches for leaders, especially when working with a young workforce entering their very first jobs. Most businesses try to fix the problem with incentives, strict policies, or constant hiring cycles. But what if the solution is simpler… and more human?In this episode, Chris Deferio, founder of Keys to the Shop and renowned voice in the coffee industry, shares why building people-first systems is the secret to reducing burnout, creating strong teams, and fostering long-term retention. Chris and Holli dig into the mindset shifts leaders need to make, ho...
2025-10-0145 min
The People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA5 | Beyond Training, Start Coaching: The Smarter Way to Lead with Dr. Nicholas WeatherlyMost leaders say they’re drowning in meetings. The calendar is packed, the interruptions never stop, and the things they love about their work get buried under “urgent” noise. But what if the fix wasn’t another productivity hack, but rethinking the entire system around people?In this episode, Dr. Nicholas Weatherly examines why so many “solutions” (like endless training) don’t actually solve performance problems and how coaching systems, not quick fixes, change the game.Listen in as he gets candid about burnout, incentives, and why HR needs to get comfortable outside its comfort zone.
2025-09-1744 min
The People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA4 | Unhealed Trauma and How It Shows Up at with Katrina CollierIn this episode of the People Contingency Podcast, Holli Beth interviews Katrina Collier, who discusses her latest book, 'The Damage of Words,' and her journey of healing from childhood trauma. Katrina shares insights on the importance of inner child work, the impact of trauma on professional relationships, and the need for vulnerability in the workplace. She emphasizes the significance of setting boundaries, understanding narcissism, and the role of management in fostering a supportive work environment. The conversation highlights the connection between emotional well-being and professional success, offering valuable advice for recruiters and organizations.About Katrina
2025-09-0248 min
The People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA3 | Beyond Compliance: How Data is Transforming HR and Culture with Jennifer McClureIn this conversation, Holli Beth and Jennifer McClure explore the evolving role of HR in organizations, emphasizing its importance beyond compliance to fostering culture and engagement. They discuss the significance of data in HR practices, the necessity of building a strong employer brand, and the risks associated with ignoring employee feedback. Jennifer shares her experiences in transforming company culture and the critical role of trust in HR practices, ultimately highlighting the need for curiosity and engagement in leadership.About JenniferJennifer McClure is a keynote speaker and future of work strategist who empowers leaders and...
2025-08-2047 min
The People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA2 | The Hidden Cost of Remote Work with Peter CappelliIn this episode, Holli Beth sits down with Peter Cappelli to unpack the evolving realities of remote and hybrid work. They explore why office culture still matters, how mentorship and collaboration shift in distributed teams, and what’s at stake for early-career professionals. Cappelli shares evidence-based insights on supervision, hiring, and the hidden costs of poor management in today’s workplace.About PeterPeter Cappelli is the George W. Taylor Professor of Management at The Wharton School and Director of Wharton’s Center for Human Resources. He is also a Resear...
2025-08-0638 min
The People Contingency | Avoid Staff Turnover in ABA1| Are You Really Seeing Your People? with Angela PointerIn this episode, Angela Pointer delivers real talk on people-first leadership—sharing how intentional living shapes intentional leadership, and how aligning values with action builds trust, belonging, and real workplace culture.About Angela Angela Pointer, MS, BSN, RN, is a seasoned healthcare talent acquisition strategist and former nurse with over 28 years of experience. As President of AP Solutions, she helps organizations build high-impact leadership teams through innovative recruitment, executive search, and workforce development. Angela’s expertise spans acute care, ambulatory, and PE-backed settings, with a passion for mentoring, personal growth, and e...
2025-07-2345 min
Tim Talks: Behavioral HealthHolli Beth Clauser | Building Culture-Driven Systems in ABAIn this episode of Tim Talks: ABA Therapy, host Timothy A. Zercher sits down with Holli Beth Clauser - founder of the ABA C.A.R.E.S. Summit and a leading voice in neurodiverse workplace innovation - to explore the human side of staffing in the ABA world. Holli shares how her neurodivergent perspective has influenced her approach to leadership, systems-building, and recruitment strategy.We dig into why burnout and turnover persist, what leaders are missing in their talent operations, and the exact systems Holli would build first if launching a new ABA group today. If...
2025-06-0909 min
WTF ABAWTF ABA C.A.R.E.S.: Dr. Nicholas WeatherlyHolli Beth sits down with Dr. Nicholas Weatherly to discuss behavioral coaching, post-training support, and employee's rights.
2023-12-201h 01
WTF ABAWTF ABA Podcast: Paul GavoniHolli sits down with Dr. Paul Gavoni to discuss the importance of protecting your mental and physical health in the workplace.
2023-09-2159 min
WTF ABAWTF ABA Podcast: Jing ZhouHolli sits down with Jing Zhou to discuss one of the six core components of success - people!
2023-09-191h 15
WTF ABAWTF ABA Podcast: Ellie KazemiHolli sits down with Dr. Ellie Kazemi to discuss challenges facing ABA organizations, how to address conflict, and the upcoming ABA C.A.R.E.S. Summit in Orlando.
2023-08-171h 07
WTF ABARebecca Womack: Meeting Payor GuidelinesHolli sits down with Rebecca Womack to discuss strategies for limiting staff turnover due to not meeting payor guidelines.
2023-04-141h 01
WTF ABAIqbal Atcha: Retention-Focused Recruiting in HealthcareHolli sits down with Iqbal Atcha to discuss recruiting in the healthcare field.
2023-03-3057 min
WTF ABAEpisode 5 - Dr. Breanne HartleyHolli Beth discusses how operations and supervision programs impact retention with Dr. Breanne Hartley.
2023-03-101h 01
WTF ABAEpisode 4 - Bobbi BarberHolli sits down with Bobbi Barber to discuss how to avoid burnout in the field of ABA.
2023-02-231h 12
WTF ABAEpisode 3 - Landria GreenLandria Green from The Huddle sits down with Holli to discuss mentorship, equity in the workplace, and more.
2023-02-0744 min
WTF ABAEpisode 2 - Dr. Megan MillerDr. Megan Miller joins Holli to discuss The Do Better Collective, what it means to her, and more.
2023-01-2445 min
WTF ABAEpisode 1 - Dr. Nicholas OrlandHolli sits down with Dr. Nicholas Orland to discuss international ABA practices and more.
2023-01-1127 min