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WORK IN PROGRESS
From Amsterdam to Austin: SaaS Growth, CRO and Sales Funnels - Episode 21
From Amsterdam to Austin. From Bitterbal to Brisket. From Seed-stage to Unicorn.In this episode, Ian and Wes dive into what it really takes to scale a modern SaaS agency. They explore why “boring” businesses are winning, how Noco is evolving with CRO subscriptions and funnel services, and why in-person still matters—even in a remote-first world. Plus, an inside look at Eli5’s new AI tools and their upcoming Texas trip.Timestamps(0:00) Why “boring” businesses might be smarter than SaaS(5:27) What’s actually boring: screen work vs. building stuff(9:35) How Noco’s subscriptions ar...
2025-05-19
41 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
How GDPR Crushed European Startups, Pre-Elon Twitter Stories and The Future of xAI and X ads - ep 20
What happens when everything is going well, but you still feel off? In this episode, Ian and Wes open with an unfiltered conversation about burnout, energy swings, and the strange self-sabotage that kicks in when business finally gets calm. That spirals into a full teardown of GDPR, where they walk through the real-world consequences of the EU's regulatory overreach and why it did irreversible damage to Europe’s tech scene.They break down exactly how GDPR slowed down product launches, blocked marketing experiments, and forced startups to spend thousands on compliance infrastructure. It's not a theoretical rant. It...
2025-04-17
1h 00
20 MINUTES by Noco - no-code tools, Webflow websites, B2B SaaS & tech
Webflow MCP + Cursor: How AI Agents Are Changing Web Development - 20 MINUTES #10
Webflow’s new MCP (Model Context Protocol) is here, and it’s not just hype. It lets AI agents like Cursor and Claude directly interact with your Webflow projects. That means creating, editing, and managing CMS collections using natural language prompts. No manual clicking required.In this episode, Ian and Yar break down what MCP actually does, demo real workflows in Cursor, and explain why this shift marks the start of true AI-powered web development.You’ll learn:How Webflow MCP works with AI tools like CursorWhat “agent mode” really means in a Webflow contextReal-world use cases: batch archiving, dynamic co...
2025-04-17
22 min
20 MINUTES by Noco - no-code tools, Webflow websites, B2B SaaS & tech
The Figma to Webflow Update: What SaaS Teams Need to Know - 20 MINUTES #9
Design-to-dev just got an upgrade. In this episode, Ian and Yar break down Webflow’s latest Figma integration update. If you're building high-performance marketing sites in Webflow, this is what works, what breaks, and how it fits into a fast-moving SaaS workflow.Timestamps:(00:48) – Webflow’s Figma Integration vs. Framer(02:55) – Yar’s verdict: better for syncing styles, still not Framer(04:42) – When the plugin works best (hint: not mid-project)(06:01) – Live demo: syncing variables from Figma to Webflow(10:38) – Real-time bugs and syncing frustrations(12:25) – How it smooths designer-dev handoff(13:42) – Wha...
2025-04-09
21 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
From Pyramids to Burning Teslas: Conspiracies, Business Breakthroughs and Land Cruisers - Episode 19
Ian and Wes take you on a wild ride through Episode 19, unpacking pyramid power plant theories with nods to Graham Hancock, debating Bob Lazar’s alien whistleblowing saga, and wrestling with Europe’s Tesla vandalism wave. The stakes get real as Wes wraps Eli5’s intense hiring sprint, seven new hires streamlined with lessons for the future, while Ian revels in Noco’s overflowing pipeline, plotting faster marketing experiments with X’s Grok-powered ads. From Edge Impulse’s Qualcomm coup to the rise of Chinese car tech, hello BYD suspension, they explore growth, innovation, and legacy. Then it’s personal. Wes...
2025-03-30
1h 23
20 MINUTES by Noco - no-code tools, Webflow websites, B2B SaaS & tech
From Webflow to Qualcomm: What We Learned Helping Edge Impulse Scale - 20 MINUTES #8
Edge Impulse getting acquired by Qualcomm isn't just a milestone for them. It’s a perfect example of the journey we want every Noco customer to take. From seed stage to scale, we’ve worked with them across four years of rapid growth, helping them stay fast, flexible, and conversion-ready at every step.This episode breaks down what that kind of partnership looks like. A high-performing, scalable website as the foundation. A subscription that supports continuous iteration. A collaborative workflow that lets us move fast without losing quality.This is why Noco exists. Not to launch and disappear, but to s...
2025-03-22
28 min
20 MINUTES by Noco - no-code tools, Webflow websites, B2B SaaS & tech
Webflow AI vs Framer: Is Webflow's AI Site Builder Any Good? - 20 MINUTES #7
In this episode of 20 MINUTES with Yar & Ian, we put Webflow's AI Site Builder to the test and compare it with Framer and Relume. Webflow is pushing AI features, but does it actually deliver? We explore:- How Webflow's AI site builder works and its limitations- The key differences between Webflow AI, Framer AI, and Relume AI- Which platform is the best choice for B2B SaaS startups and early-stage companies- What Webflow should be focusing on instead of AI-generated sitesChapters:(0:00) Intro – Testing Webflow’s AI Site Builder(2:08) Who is Webflow really competing with?(4:28) Webflow AI vs Relume AI – Side-b...
2025-03-06
25 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
What 806 Applicants Taught Us About Hiring & Why We’re Scaling Differently - Episode 18
In this episode, we dive into everything from scaling a business without killing the fun to automating workflows and filtering out 806 applicants. Ian breaks down Noco’s rapidly growing sales pipeline and how their flexible subscription model is finally clicking with customers. Wes shares his philosophy on keeping Eli5 lean, solving client problems that spawn new business ideas, and the painful process of hiring top-tier talent.We also discuss the AI-powered creative workflow tool Flora, how to properly validate a business idea, and why Stripe subscriptions don’t work for high-ticket B2B SaaS. Oh, and we kick things off...
2025-03-06
38 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
The rise of AI-powered developers, automation wars, and the JD Vance speech - Episode 17
In this episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, we go deep on:The software developer job collapse – AI is eating junior developer roles. Is the middle-class engineer disappearing?AI-powered coding in Webflow and beyond – How Webflow Apps, GSAP, and AI-driven coding tools are changing the game.Make vs. Zapier and the automation gap – Why most businesses aren't even ready for AI workflows.Escaping Amsterdam – Why Ian is ditching city life, exploring Starlink internet, and avoiding overpriced restaurants.Europe’s economic mess and JD Vance’s speech – Is EU leadership...
2025-02-19
50 min
20 MINUTES by Noco - no-code tools, Webflow websites, B2B SaaS & tech
How Cursor AI Supercharges Webflow: GSAP, Custom Apps & Faster Development - 20 MINUTES #6
In this episode of 20 MINUTES with Yar & Ian, we explore how Cursor AI is changing the game for Webflow development. From GSAP animations to custom Webflow apps, Cursor allows developers to write, test, and implement code faster than ever, without constantly switching between tools.We break down:- How Cursor AI speeds up GSAP animations in Webflow- Why AI-driven coding is making complex interactions easier- How Yar built a Webflow app using Cursor AI- The future of custom Webflow tools and AI-assisted developmentIf you're working with Webflow, GSAP, or no-code tools, this episode is packed with insights on how...
2025-02-17
21 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
The Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman Feud, USAID insanity and hiring for tech roles in 2025 - Episode 16
In this episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes break down:Hiring in 2025 – Why the job market has changed, how AI is reshaping hiring, and why some candidates still show up unprepared.Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman – The OpenAI lawsuit, the drama behind its transition from nonprofit to for-profit, and the bigger picture in the AI war.Why UX wins the AI race – ChatGPT, Grok, Claude… which one is actually winning? Ian explains why UX plays a bigger role than most people think.USAID’s unhinged capital allocation – From funding LGBTQ festivals abroad to bizarre health initiatives, how government s...
2025-02-12
47 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
Recruiting BANGER designers, Audience Building, Noco's CRO focus and the EU Worm Diet - Episode 15
In this episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes tackle the hiring struggle in design, new AI-powered updates in Webflow, and a regulation allowing insect protein in food. A mix of practical insights, rants, and some well-earned laughs:The Designer Hiring Crisis – Why is it so hard to find designers with good taste? Ian and Wes discuss the massive gap between applications and actual talent.AI in Design and Development – Webflow’s new Figma-to-Webflow update and how it changes handovers for design teams.The Power of Personal Branding in Hiring– Why building an audience is the best long-term hiring s...
2025-02-10
41 min
20 MINUTES by Noco - no-code tools, Webflow websites, B2B SaaS & tech
Webflow Apps for Analytics & SEO: Game-Changing Tools for Your Website - 20 MINUTES #5
In this episode of 20 MINUTES with Yar & Jelle, we explore the latest Webflow apps that make tracking analytics and optimizing SEO easier than ever. Instead of juggling multiple logins and dashboards, these tools bring Google Analytics, Search Console, Tag Manager, and SEO audits directly into Webflow, giving you instant insights without leaving your site. For B2B SaaS and tech companies, this means faster decision-making, more actionable data, and better-performing websites. We break down: How Webflow apps streamline website analytics The best SEO tools to track site performance Why integrating analytics into Webflow saves time and boosts efficiency If...
2025-02-06
21 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
Becoming a Dad, AI Disruptions, and Wes’ Latest Life Optimization Epiphany - Episode 14
In this episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes cover a mix of personal milestones, business insights, and AI-driven industry shifts: Fatherhood and Life Changes – Ian shares the news of becoming a dad, and Wes reflects on his own journey as a parent, including the unexpected realities of raising a child. DeepSeek AI and OpenAI’s Competition – A discussion on DeepSeek’s rise, its cost advantages, and whether it truly threatens AI incumbents like OpenAI The Future of Compliance & AI Automation – Wes breaks down how AI is set to transform compliance-heavy industries, reducing i...
2025-02-01
59 min
20 MINUTES by Noco - no-code tools, Webflow websites, B2B SaaS & tech
AI-Powered Web Design: How Relume is Changing SaaS Website Building - 20 MINUTES #4
In this episode of 20 MINUTES with Yar & Jelle, we dive into Relume, a game-changing AI-powered tool that streamlines web design and wireframing. What started as a wireframing tool is now an advanced AI-driven platform that can generate site maps, wireframes, and even style guides in minutes. For B2B SaaS and tech startups, speed is everything. Relume’s AI lets you generate structured, on-brand layouts and instantly import them into Webflow, reducing time spent on tedious setups. The ability to A/B test new ideas, launch landing pages on the fly, and validate concepts quickly makes this a powerful as...
2025-01-30
16 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
Vertical AI Kills SaaS, Crypto Clown Show and Trump's Techno Accelerationism Era Begins - Episode 13
In this episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes navigate a mix of timely and timeless topics: - The Trump Inauguration: Reflections on policy shifts, executive orders, and their broader implications for society. - The rise of vertical AI: How hyper-specialized tools are reshaping B2B SaaS, streamlining industries with AI-driven innovation. - Crypto’s clown show: From Bitcoin’s original ethos to today’s meme coin culture, they explore the tech’s decline into financial nihilism and its potential future. - Accelerationism vs. Decelerationism: A spirited, humorous debate on what drives progress and what holds us back. - Person...
2025-01-22
1h 23
20 MINUTES by Noco - no-code tools, Webflow websites, B2B SaaS & tech
Webflow Variables, GSAP, and the Rise of AI in Web Development - 20 MINUTES with Yar & Ian episode 3
In this episode of 20 MINUTES with Yar & Ian, we explore the latest Webflow updates, including variable modes for responsive design and brand consistency, and the upcoming integration of GSAP for advanced animations. These updates highlight Webflow’s commitment to making scalable, high-performing websites more accessible. We also discuss the rise of AI in web development, from generative AI to intelligent agents that streamline repetitive tasks, allowing designers and developers to focus on creativity and strategy. With tools like Webflow and Framer advancing rapidly, the no-code and low-code space is entering an exciting era. Whether you’re a B2B SaaS...
2025-01-16
25 min
20 MINUTES by Noco - no-code tools, Webflow websites, B2B SaaS & tech
Webflow Apps for B2B SaaS Startups: Essential Tools for 2025 - Episode #2
In this episode of 20 MINUTES with Yar & Ian, we dive into the Webflow apps that are shaping the future of no-code web development. From Zapier and MemberStack to HubSpot and Graphite, these tools are empowering B2B SaaS startups to streamline their workflows, improve user experiences, and scale effectively. Yar also shares insights into lesser-known apps that save time and enhance productivity, along with exciting updates on how AI is integrated into Webflow for tasks like alt text generation and schema markups. Whether you’re building a SaaS product, optimizing workflows, or looking for tools to elevate your Webflow pr...
2025-01-15
22 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
The Pendulum Swings: Zuckerberg Based(?), AI Agents, Content Strategy and Agency Future - Episode 12
In episode 12 of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes dive deep into the nuances of modern agencies, AI-driven workflows, and what it takes to create scalable, authentic content strategies. Reflecting on the constant balancing act between short-term wins and long-term growth, they explore how the pendulum of freedom, innovation, and authenticity is shaping the business landscape. Key topics include: - The rise of AI agents in agencies and the shift to scalable service models. - The pros and cons of delegating tasks vs. maintaining direct control. - How personal and company-wide content strategies drive growth. - A candid discussion...
2025-01-15
1h 09
20 MINUTES by Noco - no-code tools, Webflow websites, B2B SaaS & tech
Webflow vs. Framer, AI in Development, and the Future of No-Code - Episode #1
In the first episode of 20 MINUTES with Yar & Ian, we explore the no-code revolution, the strengths of Webflow, and how tools like Framer compare. From scalable website development to the role of AI in transforming workflows, we dive into topics that matter most to B2B SaaS startups. Yar shares his journey as a Webflow developer, insights on Webflow’s evolution, and the growing integration of AI tools like Webflow’s AI assistant. We also discuss how no-code tools are enabling startups to scale quickly and efficiently, and what the future holds for Webflow, Framer, and other no-code platforms. If y...
2025-01-08
21 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
AI Predictions for 2025, Human Excellence and Platform Agnosticism vs Brand Recognition - Episode 11
In episode 11 of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes ring in 2025 with an upgraded studio setup and reflections on where technology, creativity, and business are headed. From the shifting role of AI to the evolving importance of taste, intuition, and resilience, this episode is packed with insights for anyone navigating the intersection of tech and human ingenuity. Key topics include: (0:00) Intro and new podcast setup (3:00) Reflections on the WORK IN PROGRESS journey so far (10:00) AI’s influence on personal brands and authenticity (19:30) Webflow vs. Framer: balancing agnosticism and branding (31:00) Greg Eisenberg’s 2025 AI predictions (39:30) How aesthetics and architecture impact our...
2025-01-05
54 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
Reflecting on 2024, building momentum for 2025 and addressing Europe's challenges - Episode 10
In this milestone 10th episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian Piepenbrock and Wes Botman reflect on a transformative 2024 and lay the groundwork for an ambitious 2025. From navigating personal losses to reshaping business strategies, this conversation explores the lessons, challenges, and opportunities that defined the past year and what lies ahead. Highlights include: - The importance of resilience in business and life. - Reflections on the European tech ecosystem versus the U.S. landscape. - The shift towards human authenticity in the age of AI. - Why diversifying operations in the U.S. is a strategic move for 2025. This episode...
2024-12-28
1h 09
WORK IN PROGRESS
RELENTLESS value delivery, CRINGE LinkedIn takes and why HUMAN AUTHENTICITY always wins - Episode 9
In this episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes navigate the highs and lows of running productized agencies and building systems that never skip a beat. From dissecting LinkedIn's "gray mass of mediocrity" to unveiling Noco's refined 2025 service offerings, the conversation touches on authenticity, content strategy, and the delicate balance between grind culture and scaling sustainably. This episode also covers: - The fatigue of fragmented work and the power of weekly routines. - Exploring parallels between B2B SaaS startups and productized agencies. - How Noco is doubling down on value with three core service pillars: Build, Optimize...
2024-12-21
1h 10
WORK IN PROGRESS
European Accelerationism (eu/acc), OpenAI's $200/m o1 version and Wes' DTC hellscape - episode #8
In this episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes dive into a rollercoaster of topics ranging from the challenges of running a direct-to-consumer (DTC) brand to the systemic issues within Europe's tech landscape. Wes opens up about the ups and downs of his DTC furniture brand, Selé, revealing valuable lessons on delegation, operations, and branding. The conversation then shifts to a candid critique of Europe's innovation stagnation, comparing it to the accelerating tech dynamism in the U.S. This episode also touches on: The intricacies of balancing physical and digital products. OpenAI's GPT o1 vs. C...
2024-12-14
1h 34
WORK IN PROGRESS
AI Agents will take over EVERYTHING: Here's what you need to know to stay ahead - Episode #7
In Episode #7 of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes dive into the emerging world of AI agents, their potential to revolutionize industries, and how they’re tinkering with tools like Lindy AI. They discuss practical applications, challenges, and exciting prospects for the future of automation and efficiency in business. Chapters: (0:00) Intro and Setting the Stage(2:15) What Are AI Agents?(6:40) Vertical AI vs. Lindy AI(11:20) AI’s Impact on Workflow Automation(16:35) Exploring B2B SaaS Opportunities with AI(20:50) Recruitment and Marketing Automation(26:15) The Role of AI in Compliance and Content Creation(31:30) Real-World Use Case...
2024-12-07
53 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
The future of DESIGN & NO-CODE websites for B2B SaaS & tech with Jelle Bot (Noco) - Episode 6
In this episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian Piepenbrock and Jelle Bot explore the transformative future of no-code tools, the challenges of minimalist design in B2B SaaS, and how agencies can stay ahead in a fast-evolving creative landscape. They discuss Webflow vs. Framer, the role of AI in shaping websites, and why emotional, maximalist design may be the key to standing out in a saturated market. If you're passionate about design, creativity, and staying ahead in SaaS, this episode is for you. Timestamps: (0:00) - Introduction: Welcoming Jelle and reflecting on WORK IN PROGRESS so far (2:10) - The no-code...
2024-12-04
1h 04
WORK IN PROGRESS
Shifting the Overton Window, Andreessen x Joe Rogan and EU founders breaking free - Episode 5
In Episode 5 of WORK IN PROGRESS, Ian and Wes dive into: Shifting Overton Windows and its impact on entrepreneurial discourse. Marc Andreessen’s explosive Joe Rogan appearance and its implications. Challenges faced by European founders and how to break free from bureaucratic constraints. The duo also shares insights into sleep trackers, including Wes’s personal journey with Whoop, and why sleep data can both help and harm. They explore how to optimize sleep for better health and productivity. Chapters:(0:00) - Positive affirmations and momentum in entrepreneurship(7:00) - Slee...
2024-11-30
57 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
The Jaguar train-wreck, AI video dubbing use-cases and frontloading energy & pain - Episode #4
In this episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, we explore the grind of building businesses with some practical insights and unfiltered takes. From why front-loading energy and pain is essential for success, to the controversial (if not disastrous) Jaguar rebrand, we cover the highs, lows, and lessons learned. We also dive into the game-changing potential of AI-powered video localization and how it could reshape content distribution. Plus, we share thoughts on the startup grind, ads vs. organic growth, and more. Intro & Branding Blunders 00:00 Ian’s boxing mishap and the Jaguar rebranding controversy 05:30 Classic cars vs. Jaguar’s modern miss...
2024-11-23
1h 02
WORK IN PROGRESS
Paul vs Tyson, Y Combinator wisdom and how to fix the EU tech sector - Episode #3
In this episode of the WORK IN PROGRESS podcast, we dive into the grit and grind of building businesses, with topics ranging from startup lessons and iterative growth to the inefficiencies of corporate bureaucracy. We also tackle the stark contrasts between the US and EU entrepreneurial climates, highlight Pieter Levels’ critiques of European policies, and debate Elon Musk’s push for governmental efficiency. Plus, some lighthearted takes on Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson and nostalgic TV shows to keep things fresh. Timestamps:Intro & Catch-Up00:00 - Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson: Ian’s take on the fight...
2024-11-17
1h 02
WORK IN PROGRESS
Difficult customers, bursts of intensity, free speech and the EU tech-sector is COOKED - Episode #2
Welcome to the second episode of WIP The Podcast – straight out of Amsterdam, where we dive deep into the realities of scaling, struggling, and sometimes stumbling as founders. We’re not here to sell you the polished “guru” story; we’re in the trenches ourselves, sharing the raw, unvarnished truth of building something real. In this episode, we tackle: Difficult Customers – why every “difficult” customer is a reflection of the clarity and structure we bring (or fail to bring) to the table. Bursts of Intensity vs. Consistency – the power of pushing to the edge, sprinting hard, and why it’s essen...
2024-11-09
56 min
WORK IN PROGRESS
Decel mindset, relentless iteration and esoteric health tips - Episode #1
Welcome to the first episode of WIP The Podcast – straight out of Amsterdam, where we get real about the grit and grind of building a business. We’re not your average gurus with a success story wrapped in a bow. We’re founders in the trenches, sharing what it actually takes to scale, learn, fail, and iterate. In this episode, we dig into: The Decel Mindset – why there’s zero room for it if you’re serious about growing Throughput and Volume – why bootstrapping an agency without high project flow is a one-way ticket to irrelevance Constant Iteration – the obsession to tes...
2024-11-02
51 min
GOBCAST
GOBCAST #5 - Met Mark Wijsman, acteur & corporate presentator - Gobsmacked®
https://gobsmacked.video/nl/ Mark Wijsman heeft als acteur in vele commercials gespeeld waarvan je er ongetwijfeld meerdere kent. In 2018 maake hij zijn debuut als documentairemaker met de shortdoc "When Music Speaks" waarin hij zijn vader en zijn liefde voor muziek in beeld bracht. De documentaire sleepte onder meer de prijs ‘Best Director’ opNew Vision International Film Festival Amsterdam (National Edition, 2019) in de wacht. De laatste jaren is Mark zich daarbij steeds meer op het presenteren gaan toeleggen; hij wordt steeds vaker ingezet als host voor corporate events. In deze podcast praten Ian Piepenbrock en Mark Wijsman over hun bezigheden en r...
2020-08-30
00 min
GOBCAST
GOBCAST #2 - Over de coronavirus update, TikTok, het gebruik van stock video en meer - Gobsmacked®
http://gobsmacked.video In deze podcast praten Jeffrey Sistermans en Ian Piepenbrock over de persconferentie van de overheid waarin verlenging de 'intelligente' lockdown werd aangekondigd, de explosie van de TikTok app, het groeiende gebruik van stock video beelden en welke voor- en nadelen hieraan zitten, Ian zijn eerste voice-over klus en nog veel meer... Lees meer over Jeffrey, Ian en de rest: https://gobsmacked.video/nl/crew/ The Swiss Alps by drone: https://youtu.be/wld9fzvSsDQ Ireland by drone: https://youtu.be/2X-2yBy7PlM What is anamorphic?: https://youtu.be/VpxwUb0ww4A Vond je deze aflevering interessant...
2020-04-29
00 min
GOBCAST
GOBCAST #1 - Over thuiswerken tijdens, livestreams en video marketing in 2020 - Gobsmacked®
http://gobsmacked.video In onze allereerste podcast praten Jeffrey Sistermans en Ian Piepenbrock over de voor- en nadelen van thuiswerken tijdens COVID-19, livestreaming als alternatief voor fysieke evenementen en over hoe wij onze klanten blijven helpen tijdens deze 'intelligente' lockdown. Vond je deze aflevering leuk? Like dan de video en abonneer je hierboven op ons kanaal! Jouw merk laten groeien door intelligente video marketing? Stuur ons een bericht! https://gobsmacked.video/contact/ Kan je geen genoeg van ons krijgen? Volg ons dan: - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gobsmackedvideo/ - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gobsmacked.video/ - Facebook...
2020-04-23
00 min