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Banking with Interest
After a Fraud, this Bank Refused to Give Her Money Back. Now She’s the CEO.
While serving in the Oklahoma National Guard, Jill Castilla returned home to find a family member had stolen her money. The bank refused to give her the money back. Decades later, she now leads that bank, Citizens Bank of Edmond, and has used it to launch a digital bank aimed at servicemembers to ensure others don’t suffer the same fate. She also talks about the policy challenges facing community banks right now, how to fix them, and why she remains optimistic about the future.
2025-05-20
39 min
Banking with Interest
Politico's Sutton on China Tariff Deal, Behind the Scenes at Milken
Sam Sutton, the author of Politico's Morning Money, discusses the impact of the Trump Administration's recent deal to reduce tariffs on China, and what Wall Street and bankers were worried about — publicly and privately — at last week's Milken Institute gathering.
2025-05-14
24 min
Banking with Interest
Inside Dems Surprising Turn Against the Stablecoin Bill
Brendan Pedersen, author of Punchbowl News’ The Vault, talks about why key Democrats withdrew support for a bill to regulate stablecoins, how House Financial Services Committee GOP are targeting CFPB, and why an effort to overturn the medical debt rule appears to have failed for now.
2025-05-06
46 min
Banking with Interest
Is This the End of the Fed and CFPB As We Know Them?
President Trump is flirting with the idea of firing Fed Chairman Jerome Powell while the administration is attempting to lay off 90% of the CFPB’s employees. John Heltman, Washington bureau chief of American Banker, and Kate Berry, the paper’s consumer reporter, discuss what’s next for these two agencies.
2025-04-29
36 min
Banking with Interest
How Tariffs Impact Banks, Bessent’s Ambitious Agenda & Stablecoin Fears
Jaret Seiberg, managing director at TD Cowen, talks about how the uncertain economic environment—and changing policies regarding tariffs—are impacting banks large and small. He also tackles Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s bank regulatory agenda, whether the Trump administration can successfully accomplish GSE reform and the significant risks to banks from stablecoin legislation.
2025-04-16
31 min
Banking with Interest
Why State Regulators Are Worried About Stablecoin Legislation
Brandon Milhorn, the CEO of the Conference of State Bank Supervisors, details his concerns about bills fast-tracked in Congress that would give regulatory guardrails for stablecoins. The state regulators he represents say it would open the door to mixing banking and commerce, disintermediate banks and give too much power to the federal government.
2025-04-08
37 min
Banking with Interest
What the Hell Is Going on with the GSEs?
Katy O’Donnell, the financial services reporter for Politico, dives into a series of surprising moves by new FHFA Director Bill Pulte, including firing the CEO of Freddie Mac, appointing himself chair of both GSEs, and cutting programs.
2025-04-02
27 min
Banking with Interest
What the Hell is Going On: CDFI, CFPB Edition
The Trump administration unexpectedly targeted the Community Development Financial Institution Fund, touching off concern among bankers and their representatives that the bipartisan program could be eliminated. Ryan Tracy, who covers financial regulation and banking for Capitol Account, explains what happened, why, and the future of CDFIs. We also discuss the latest legal maneuvers surrounding the CFPB, what Fed Gov. Michelle Bowman’s nomination as vice chair for banking supervision means for community banks and more.
2025-03-26
29 min
Banking with Interest
How Treasury’s Bessent Is Upending Bank Regulation
Not that long ago, the Treasury secretary mostly took a back seat to the banking agencies in crafting policy, stepping in only during times of crisis. Not anymore. Karen Shaw Petrou, managing partner of Federal Financial Analytics, discusses Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s expansive view of his own role, why he’s taking charge, and what it means for banks.
2025-03-18
31 min
Banking with Interest
Zelle Chief on Fraud, Friction and Future
Cam Fowler, the CEO of Zelle parent company Early Warning Services, talks about the peer-to-peer payment system’s rapid growth, the furor around fraud, and its new digital wallet, Paze. Fowler explains how the company is working to make the platform safer for consumers and why he believes shared accountability is the best approach to stopping criminals.
2025-03-11
29 min
Banking with Interest
Rep. Lucas on Fed Independence, Bank Supervisory Role
Rep. Frank Lucas, the chair of a newly created Congressional task force on monetary policy, discusses the panel's agenda and upcoming hearings, the first of which takes place this week. The Oklahoma Republican grapples with two separate questions: should the Fed be independent and should it have a direct role in banking supervision?
2025-03-04
25 min
Banking with Interest
What the Hell is Going On, Part II: Merging OCC, FDIC?
The Trump administration wants to fold the FDIC’s bank oversight duties into the OCC without congressional approval. Evan Weinberger, a banking correspondent at Bloomberg Law, details the ramifications for community banks, what’s already happening at both agencies, and what may happen next.
2025-02-26
32 min
Banking with Interest
What the Hell is Going On? A Banker’s Guide to D.C.
Victoria Guida of Politico and Brendan Pedersen of Punchbowl News sort through how and why the Trump administration is remaking banking regulation. Is the CFPB neutered for the next four years or maybe forever? Will the OCC take over the FDIC’s exam functions? Why did big bank CEOs meet with the Senate Banking Committee? What’s DOGE up to at Treasury?
2025-02-20
44 min
Banking with Interest
Bank Supervision Needs “Complete Change in Focus”
Greg Baer, the CEO of the Bank Policy Institute, argues that bank supervision has gone off course, focusing on the wrong areas and making the system less safe. He outlines how he and big banks would recommend fixing it. He also discusses stress test and AML reform, new liquidity rules, Basel III, CFPB and more.
2025-02-11
33 min
Banking with Interest
Fmr. Sen. Toomey: Why Debanking Crypto Occurred—And How to Solve It
Former Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., one of the first lawmakers to sound alarms about the debanking of crypto firms , talks about President Trump’s accusation that large banks are systemically debanking conservatives, and what he thinks is really going on. That includes how policymakers could fix the issue permanently and why some proposed solutions might backfire.
2025-02-04
33 min
Banking with Interest
Rep. Waters on Dem’s Strategy, Stablecoins, Housing & More
Rep. Maxine Waters, lead Democrat on House Financial Services, discusses how the committee and Congress have changed in her long tenure, her relationship with Chair French Hill, and the importance of community banks. She also unveils the Democratic agenda for this Congress, including housing reform, stablecoin regulation and more.
2025-01-29
38 min
Banking with Interest
What Community Bankers Want from D.C.
Brad Bolton, the CEO of Community Spirit Bank in Red Bay, Ala., discusses the state of community banking right now, including what challenges he and other small institutions face and how they hope policymakers can help. He dives into concerns about new small business lending data requirements and other pending regulations, calls for bank consolidation, and what worries him most.
2025-01-22
33 min
Banking with Interest
The End of Independent Bank Regulation?
Michael Barr’s surprising decision to step down as Fed vice chair of banking supervision next month allows the incoming Trump administration to make its own pick for the job and raises questions about the political independence of the banking regulators going forward. Andrew Ackerman, senior financial reporter with The Washington Post, walks through the implications for banks and discusses Barr’s likely successor.
2025-01-14
23 min
Banking with Interest
OCC’s Hsu on Unfinished Business, Reg Restructuring & Dangers Ahead
Acting Comptroller of the Currency Michael Hsu talks about his three-plus years at the forefront of bank regulation, including what regulators learned from the fall of SVB, why we still need new Basel capital rules, and whether regulatory restructuring would be worth the effort.
2025-01-02
35 min
Banking with Interest
What’s the Future of the CFPB and FDIC Under Trump?
Evan Weinberger, the banking reporter at Bloomberg Law, talks about the Trump administration’s trial balloon to eliminate the FDIC or combine regulatory agencies. He also goes in-depth on the various fights the CFPB is engaged in, how the Trump administration could choose to tackle them, and what that would mean for banks.
2024-12-17
36 min
Banking with Interest
Crypto’s Win, Stablecoins’ Future & Debanking Debate
Alex Johnson, the founder and publisher of Fintech Takes, tackles several hot-button topics, including how the crypto industry’s election victories will influence the next Trump administration, and why hype around stablecoins as a replacement for banks may be misplaced. He also discusses whether banks are really engaging in debanking as a prominent venture capitalist recently claimed.
2024-12-12
45 min
Banking with Interest
What Trump’s Treasury Pick Means for Banks, Fed and Wall Street
Sam Sutton, the primary author of Politico’s Morning Money newsletter, goes behind the scenes on why President-elect Trump chose Scott Bessent to lead the Treasury Department. Sutton discusses Bessent’s experience and agenda, how his views on tariffs and inflation will play out in the next administration, and how they portend a potential brewing conflict with the Federal Reserve.
2024-12-05
29 min
Banking with Interest
Behind Rep. Hill’s Plan to Make Community Banks Great Again
Rep. French Hill, a top contender to lead the House Financial Services Committee, details his plan to help banks, including revamping regulators’ approach to M&A, ending Operation Choke Point, and encouraging more de novos. He also discusses his views on Scott Bessent, President-elect Trump’s nominee for Treasury secretary, the mood among GOP lawmakers, how the government can confront fraud at banks, what he thinks Congress can do for banks over the next two years and his takeaways from the Biden-era regulators’ final Congressional appearance.
2024-11-26
44 min
Banking with Interest
CBA's Johnson on CFPB Under Trump, Open Banking and Junk Fees vs. Junk Facts
Lindsey Johnson, CEO and president of the Consumer Bankers Association, talks about how the CFPB may change under the second Trump administration. Will a Trump-appointed CFPB director roll back the recently finalized open data rule? What happens for banks and consumers if that rule is left to stand? She also tackles the future of the agency's overdraft proposal and small business lending rule.
2024-11-21
37 min
Banking with Interest
The Massive Implications for Banks from the GOP's Sweeping Victory
With Republicans set to control the White House, Senate, and House next year, Victoria Guida of Politico and Brendan Pedersen of Punchbowl News dive into the implications for financial services companies. That includes what it means for the Fed, including whether President-elect Trump might try to oust Chair Jerome Powell, and what kinds of leaders will take the reins of the Congressional banking committees.
2024-11-13
43 min
Banking with Interest
How Generative AI Agents Could Threaten Financial Stability
The rise of generative AI agents have promised consumers a better, safer future. But what happens if those agents act in ways that destabilize the system, causing bank runs or better enable bad actors to commit fraud or hack financial institutions? Todd Phillips, assistant professor at Georgia State University’s Robinson College of Business, talks about his new paper looking into how AI could wreak havoc on the financial system.
2024-11-05
37 min
Banking with Interest
How CFPB’s Open Data Rule Will Impact Banks
Kate Berry, a reporter for American Banker, and Christopher Williston, the CEO of the Independent Bankers Association of Texas, go in-depth to discuss the CFPB’s final Section 1033 rule, which implements open banking. They tackle which institutions are most at risk from the final rule, why trade groups are suing to block it, and how the CFPB is responding to bank fears it will spur more fraud.
2024-10-30
43 min
Banking with Interest
How Russia Targets Banks, Wall Street
Eamon Javers, a senior Washington correspondent for CNBC, talks about his new podcast, “The Crimes of Putin’s Trader,” and how Russia is using hackers to infiltrate banks and Wall Street. He goes behind the scenes on the case of Vladislav Klyushin, who was convicted by the U.S. of insider trading, how he was traded back this summer to Russia, and what it means for financial firms here.
2024-10-23
45 min
Banking with Interest
What the 2024 Election Means for Bankers
Cam Fine, former CEO and president of ICBA, and Ed Yingling, former CEO and president of ABA, discuss and debate the possible outcomes of the election—Presidential, House and Senate—and what they could mean for banking policy.
2024-10-16
41 min
Banking with Interest
Do Regulators Want to Kill Banking-as-a-Service?
Jason Mikula, publisher of Fintech Business Weekly, talks about the ongoing fallout from the failure of fintech Synapse, and banking regulators’ efforts to ensure it can’t happen again. Are regulators going too far? Is this the end of banking-as-a-service?
2024-10-09
44 min
Banking with Interest
Bill Huizenga on AI, Dangers of Activist Investors & CFPB Overreach
Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., the chair of the House Financial Services oversight subcommittee, talks about his agenda if selected as GOP leader of the full panel next year, including looking deeper at artificial intelligence, regulating crypto, and fixing housing. He also talks about his focus on reining in activist investors, what he wants to see the next CFPB director tackle and the limitations of Congressional oversight.
2024-10-01
30 min
Banking with Interest
The Potential “Perverse” Consequences for Banks of New M&A Policies
Karen Shaw Petrou, managing partner of Federal Financial Analytics, details how new guidelines by federal regulators to curb M&A could inadvertently increase the market power of the biggest banks and Big Tech.
2024-09-24
35 min
Banking with Interest
How FHLBs See the Battle Over Reform
Ryan Donovan, the head of the Council of Federal Home Loan Banks, pushes back against criticisms that the government-sponsored enterprises have strayed from their mission. He outlines what the FHLBs want as part of a reform effort by their regulator.
2024-09-18
49 min
Banking with Interest
Andy Barr on Fair Access Law for Banks, Basel III’s Finale, Reg Relief and M&A Reform
Rep. Andy Barr, the chair of the House financial institutions subcommittee, discusses why he should lead Republicans on the Financial Services Committee next year. He offers a preview of his agenda, including pushing legislation that would prevent banks from denying legal businesses access to financial services and why large institutions are suddenly supporting it. He also details what changes regulators should make in new Basel III capital rules, how regulatory reform for banks could happen, and why M&A approval rules should be revamped.
2024-09-10
38 min
Banking with Interest
Inside the “Summer of Small Cuts” for Banks
Jaret Seiberg, managing director of TD Cowen’s Washington Research Group, discusses the many policy changes facing banks this summer, including the FDIC’s brokered deposit proposal, the Fed’s new FAQ on the discount window, a Texas court decision on the small business rule, and the new uncertainties the election poses for the industry.
2024-09-04
32 min
Banking with Interest
Inside the CFPB’s Sprint to the Finish Line
Alex Johnson, founder of Fintech Takes, discusses the CFPB’s race to complete as many regulatory initiatives – on earned wage access products, open data, privacy and more – ahead of the November election. And he talks about why banking as a service has turned into a “high-wire act without a safety net” in the wake of the Synapse bankruptcy.
2024-07-31
49 min
Banking with Interest
French Hill on Crypto Reg, Housing Reform, SVB Lessons & Bank Consolidation
Rep. French Hill, one of the leading candidates to chair the House Financial Services Committee next year, makes his case for the job, discussing how his former role as a bank CEO would help guide his agenda. He talks about why he’s worked so hard on crypto and stablecoin regulation bills, his vision for housing reform, the lessons of SVB, the end of Chevron deference, and his concerns on bank consolidation.
2024-07-24
36 min
Banking with Interest
The Titanic Shift in Banking Policy Ahead
Claire Williams, Capitol Hill reporter for American Banker, and Brendan Pedersen, who covers financial services for Punchbowl News, discuss the latest on financial policy. Will Christy Romero Goldsmith be confirmed to lead the FDIC? Is Basel III Endgame dead? How could Sen. J.D. Vance as vice president impact bank policy going forward?
2024-07-17
41 min
Banking with Interest
A Looming Crisis in CRE? What Bankers Need to Know
Phil Mobley, national director of office analytics for CoStar, the leading firm when it comes to commercial real estate, talks about how the market has changed in the wake of the pandemic. He discusses the trends right now, where the market is headed, and what risk office CRE poses to banks.
2024-07-09
44 min
Banking with Interest
Inside a Reg Split on Basel and the Battle for FDIC Control
Pete Schroeder, who covers financial regulation and policy for Reuters, breaks down why federal banking agencies are split on how to finalize new capital rules and explains how policymakers are reacting to a nominee for FDIC chair.
2024-06-25
28 min
Banking with Interest
Catch Check Fraud If You Can: The Growing Issue for Banks, Consumers
Frank Abagnale Jr., an expert on check forgery and the subject and inspiration for Steven Spielberg’s film “Catch Me If You Can,” talks about why check fraud is so much worse in recent years despite the overall decline of use of checks. He talks about why banks are struggling to detect forgeries, how policymakers should address the issue, and why the problem is poised to become even more dire.
2024-06-11
40 min
Banking with Interest
The Coming Battle Over Zelle Fraud
Penny Crosman, executive editor of technology at American Banker, goes behind the scenes on a case of Zelle fraud that cost a consumer thousands of dollars—and what it means for a coming policy fight between the big banks and Washington over the real-time payment system.
2024-06-04
31 min
Banking with Interest
The Massive Impacts of a Whirlwind Week for Banking Policy
Andrew Ackerman, a financial services reporter for the Wall Street Journal, discusses what happens next after FDIC Chair Martin Gruenberg’s surprise announcement that he will resign upon confirmation of a successor. Ackerman also details how regulators plan to dial back the Basel III Endgame proposal, and talks about the CFPB’s future after the Supreme Court upheld its funding structure.
2024-05-22
30 min
Banking with Interest
"A Political Thunderdome": The High Stakes for FDIC at Two Hill Hearings
Brendan Pedersen, the financial services reporter for Punchbowl News, discusses the critical importance of upcoming hearings to the future of the FDIC and disturbing revelations from a recent report looking into the agency’s culture. He also discusses an upcoming House vote on a crypto bill and the latest on financial privacy and stablecoin legislation.
2024-05-14
43 min
Banking with Interest
Rep. Lucas on HFSC Chair Bid, Bank Consolidation, Fed Independence
Rep. Frank Lucas, the longest serving Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, makes his case for why he should be the next chair, offering his views on community bank consolidation, whether the Fed should be independent, the dangers of quantum computing and how history informs his view of government agencies and programs.
2024-05-08
42 min
Banking with Interest
Could a Stablecoin Bill “Shatter” the Wall Between Banking and Commerce?
Hilary Allen, a law professor at American University Washington College of Law, warns that a stablecoin regulation bill could open the door to mixing banking and commerce, allowing WalMart, Amazon or Google to effectively set up their own bank without facing bank-like regulations. She also details issues with the legislation introduced to date, including failures to address critically important issues.
2024-05-01
43 min
Banking with Interest
The Populist Threat to Banks
John Heltman and Claire Williams, two journalists with American Banker, discuss the outlet’s recent series on populism and how it impacts banks. They tackle why the banking industry is so often the target of populist politicians from both the left and the right, how populism is changing the debate on various bank policy debates now, and what comes next.
2024-04-24
38 min
Banking with Interest
Klein vs. Calabria Round 2: How to Solve the Housing Crisis
Aaron Klein, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Mark Calabria, former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, debate the best way to address the housing crisis, as well as the dangers of politicizing banking regulation, whether the Fed is too worried about consensus, if the central bank is secretly working on a central bank digital currency and who should play The Sphere next.
2024-04-17
36 min
Banking with Interest
Calabria vs. Klein Round 1: Bank Rescues, Fed Playing Politics, Liquidity Fixes
Mark Calabria, former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and Aaron Klein, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, discuss how politics factors into the Fed’s monetary policy decisions, decry the rescue of uninsured depositors last year, debate how to fix liquidity rules and weigh in on revamping the FHLBs.
2024-04-10
40 min
Banking with Interest
Steele on What’s Needed After SVB, Biggest Threat to Banks, M&A Policy
Graham Steele, the former Treasury assistant secretary for financial institutions, offers a behind-the-scenes perspective on regulators’ decision to rescue uninsured depositors at Silicon Valley Bank and two other regional banks. He also discusses what policy changes are still needed as a result, the greatest challenge facing the banking industry, and why he’s worried about a “catastrophic” cybersecurity event.
2024-04-03
47 min
Banking with Interest
How SVB’s Collapse Changed Bank Policy for Good
One year after the fall of Silicon Valley Bank, the reverberations into banking policy continue. Brian Gardner, Chief Washington Policy Strategist at investment bank Stifel, discusses how the failure impacted bank supervision and the debate over new capital and liquidity rules—and how it will remain a part of the calculus moving forward.
2024-03-21
32 min
Banking with Interest
Whip Emmer on CBDCs, “Junk” Fees, Crypto and Community Banks
House Majority Whip Tom Emmer talks about his fears for the future of small banks—and how to reverse course—and why his movement to ban the Fed from creating a CBDC has gained steam. He also tackles his predictions for the House elections this year, the CFPB’s push against so-called “junk” fees and how he became one of the leading advocates for cryptocurrency in Congress.
2024-03-13
38 min
Banking with Interest
“The Most Contentious Fight in Washington Right Now”
Richard Hunt, executive chair of the Electronic Payments Coalition, talks about the battle over Capital One buying Discover, how it connects to the Durbin amendment’s restrictions on debit interchange fees, and why the fight over another Durbin legislative proposal on credit cards is so heated.
2024-03-06
35 min
Banking with Interest
How Banks Can Win the Battle for Deposits
Neil Stanley, CEO of the CorePoint, offers strategies and products banks can use to attract and retain deposits in a highly competitive deposit environment.
2024-02-28
34 min
Banking with Interest
Esther George on Interest Rate Cuts, CRE, Bank Failures, and Everything in Between
The former Kansas City Fed president talks about the persistence of inflation, when the central bank is likely to lower interest rates, how worried she is about office CRE, the lessons from the failures of three regional banks last year, whether she supports a central bank digital currency, and the future of community banks.
2024-02-21
47 min
Banking with Interest
Are We Headed for Another Regional Bank Crisis?
After a prominent regional bank slashed its dividend amid unexpected losses related to office commercial real estate loans, some in the media are raising fears that another round of failures could be in the offing. Jaret Seiberg, managing director of Cowen’s Washington Research Group, details what happened, how regulators are responding, and whether it’s a sign of more trouble or a one-off event.
2024-02-13
23 min
Banking with Interest
Why the War Over "Junk" Fees Has Heated Up
Kate Berry, who covers the CFPB for American Banker, goes behind the scenes on the consumer agency’s latest proposals to limit overdraft fees and institute new limits around nonsufficient funds transactions.
2024-02-06
25 min
Banking with Interest
Bank M&A was “miserable” in 2023. Will this year be even worse?
Naomi Snyder, editor-in-chief of Bank Director, discusses why the bank M&A market was so bad in 2023, and what changes need to happen for it to improve.
2024-01-30
19 min
Banking with Interest
The “Existential” CFPB Plan Banks Should Care About
John Pitts, head of policy for Plaid, argues a new CFPB open-data proposal could transform the financial services industry. He says bankers, many of whom are skeptical of the plan, could see significant opportunities, including a greater ability to attract new customers.
2024-01-23
33 min
Banking with Interest
Would Banks Win a Lawsuit Against the Basel III Capital Plan?
Greg Baer, CEO of the Bank Policy Institute, makes the case that regulators did not follow the law when they proposed new capital standards for the biggest banks by failing to provide adequate analysis and data. He details what he believes is missing and why he’s confident a final rule will be substantially different.
2024-01-17
33 min
Banking with Interest
The Road Ahead for Community Banks in 2024
Derek Williams, chairman of ICBA and President and CEO of Century Bank & Trust in Milledgeville, Georgia, talks about the challenges and opportunities for community banks as they head into a new year, including how he sees economic issues and policy debates playing out.
2023-12-12
40 min
Banking with Interest
Attack of the (Voice) Clones: The Perils of AI for Banks
As AI becomes more prevalent, what are the risks to banks and consumers, particularly as software can now allow fraudsters to imitate a person's voice? Emily Flitter, reporter for the New York Times, talks about the growing threat from AI on financial security, how it is already changing lending and what policymakers can do to address it.
2023-12-05
35 min
Banking with Interest
How FHLB Reform Can Help Banks, Housing
Cornelius Hurley, professor at Boston University School of Law, breaks down the recent FHFA report calling for sweeping changes to the Home Loan Bank system. He discusses why it’s important to refocus the banks on mission and how the debates over the report’s finding will play out in future rulemakings and legislation.
2023-11-28
42 min
Banking with Interest
Quarles on Capital Plan, SVB Criticism, Interest Rates & Fed Power Dynamics
Randal Quarles, the former Fed vice chair, details how the new Basel III capital proposal could hurt the economy, casts doubt on the legality of the Fed’s stress tests, and pushes back on criticism that his actions helped cause the failure of three regional banks earlier this spring. He also talks about his biggest concerns in the financial system right now, where interest rates are likely to go from here and his fears about the current power dynamics at the Fed.
2023-11-14
56 min
Banking with Interest
Inside the Conviction of SBF – And What It Means for Crypto, Banks
Zeke Faux, an investigative reporter for Bloomberg and the author of “Number Go Up: Inside Crypto’s Wild Rise and Staggering Fall,” goes behind the scenes on Sam Bankman Fried’s conviction last week, including his interviews with the former FTX leader and what it means for the industry at large.
2023-11-07
41 min
Banking with Interest
The Case Against a U.S. Retail CBDC
Christina Skinner, assistant professor at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, talks about why a potential U.S. central bank digital currency “opens a Pandora’s Box” of questions about the role of the Fed and could pose a grave threat to banks.
2023-10-31
41 min
Banking with Interest
Everything Banks Need to Know about the Final CRA Rule
Ebrima Sanneh, who covers the federal banking agencies for the American Banker, breaks down the final rule setting out new standards under the Community Reinvestment Act. He tackles how the rule changed from the proposal, the new standards for community banks, and how the industry is likely to react.
2023-10-25
22 min
Banking with Interest
The CFPB Is Here to Stay, So What's Next?
Now that the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau appears likely to survive a Supreme Court challenge, will the agency be emboldened to push its powers further? Or will it be reined in by other forces? Evan Weinberger, who covers the CFPB for Bloomberg Law, analyzes the latest intel.
2023-10-17
32 min
Banking with Interest
Community Bankers Are Tired of Being Jerked Around
Steve Scurlock, the head of government relations at the Independent Bankers Association of Texas, talks about the “whipsaw” effect on community banks of regulatory changes that rapidly shift with the change of administrations and regulators—and his biggest fears for the future.
2023-10-03
34 min
Banking with Interest
End of an Era: Deposit Gathering Near Rate Cycle Peak
Matt Pieniazek, president of Darling Consulting, and Dave Koch, managing director of advisory services with Abrigo, discuss strategies for banks to navigate the challenging deposit market as the Fed nears the end of its rate hike cycle. Will the Fed raise rates again, how long will rates stay high and how best can banks prepare?
2023-09-26
42 min
Banking with Interest
Are Bank Regulators Overstepping Their Legal Authority?
Jonathan Gould, partner with Jones Day and a former general counsel of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, makes a case that the federal banking agencies are increasingly pushing the envelope even as courts become more skeptical of their powers. He also discusses the dangers of focusing too much on the safety of individual institutions at the expense of the overall risk to the system.
2023-09-19
44 min
Banking with Interest
The Case Against Higher Bank Capital Requirements
Kevin Fromer, president and CEO of the Financial Services Forum, details why the big banks are pushing back vigorously against a new proposal to raise capital at the largest institutions by 20%, arguing it is unnecessary and could cost the U.S. economy at a critical time.
2023-09-12
35 min
Kruze Consulting's Founders and Friends Podcast for Startups
Bryan Harper of IntraFi discusses banking deposit networks and expanded FDIC insurance
Bryan Harper of IntraFi (https://www.intrafi.com) discusses banking deposit networks, and how IntraFi's network of over 3,000 banks provides expanded FDIC insurance to businesses with large deposits. Kruze Consulting offers solid financials to help de-risk your startup's next venture capital round. Work with a startup expert! Kruze bookkeepers (https://kruzeconsulting.com/startup-bookkeeping/) will help your startup have accurate, up-to-date financial statements that you can use to manage your business' growth and cash flow.
2023-08-10
20 min
Banking with Interest
Have We Learned the Wrong Lessons From SVB's Failure?
Steven Kelly, associate director of research at the Yale Program on Financial Stability, pushes back on multiple narratives about why SVB failed and what policymakers should do to prevent another collapse like it. He also weighs in on federal regulators’ new capital proposal and the battle over stablecoin regulation.
2023-07-26
37 min
Banking with Interest
Beyond the Hype: How FedNow Will Change Payments
Aaron Klein, senior fellow in economic studies at the Brookings Institution, talks about why he is skeptical of the impact of FedNow, the central bank’s instant payment system due to launch this week.
2023-07-19
42 min
Banking with Interest
How Twitter’s Possible Demise Could Impact Bank Policy Discussions
Sean Tuffy, former head of market and regulatory intelligence at Citigroup, talks about how the changing dynamics at Twitter may impact bank policy and media narratives. He also discusses crypto and stablecoin legislation, money market mutual fund reform, and the lessons of Silicon Valley Bank’s failure.
2023-07-12
38 min
Banking with Interest
The Looming Battle Over Bank Capital Requirements
John Heltman, Washington Bureau Chief of American Banker, talks about federal regulators’ pending proposal to raise capital on banks with more than $100 billion of assets. He tackles how that fits into the overall Basel capital plan, how banks and Republicans are planning to fight back, and what kind of impact it could have on bank lending.
2023-06-28
26 min
Banking with Interest
Santander US CEO Wennes on Regional Banks, Capital Regs and Reaching Gen Z
Tim Wennes, the CEO of Santander US, talks about the future of regional banks, including the potential for higher capital requirements and a possible credit crunch. He also weighs in on fears around commercial real estate, why the bank is expanding its auto lending business, and how it is targeting the next generation of bank customers.
2023-06-13
31 min
Banking with Interest
CBA’s Johnson on M&A, Credit Card Late Fees, and CFPB’s Future
Lindsey Johnson, who started last summer as the head of the Consumer Bankers Association, discusses how policymakers are reacting to the recent banking turmoil, why the CFPB’s credit card late fee proposal will harm consumers, and whether regulators will allow more M&A.
2023-06-06
31 min
Banking with Interest
What Bankers Need to Know After Marathon Hearings
Last week saw a remarkable number of Capitol Hill hearings on the bank policy front, with multiple sessions featuring top bank regulators and the former chief executives of three failed banks. Claire Williams and Kyle Campbell, reporters with American Banker, offer their takeaways and remaining questions from these hearings, including what comes next from lawmakers and regulators.
2023-05-23
41 min
Banking with Interest
Was the 2018 Reg Relief Law Responsible for Recent Bank Failures?
Greg Baer, the president and CEO of the Bank Policy Institute, takes issue with claims that S. 2155 played a role in the collapse of three regional banks. He also tackles what areas policymakers should look at, whether Congress is likely to enact any legislative changes directed at banks, and why the CFPB is off base when it comes to its proposal targeting credit card late fees.
2023-05-17
36 min
Banking with Interest
The Banking Crisis That Wasn’t
John Blizzard, CEO of Seattle Bank, talks about his experiences after the recent regional bank failures and the lack of concern by customers. He also discusses the nationwide launch of CD Valet, which allows consumers unbiased access to the best CD interest rates.
2023-05-09
31 min
Banking with Interest
Four Reports and a Failure
John Heltman, Washington Bureau Chief of American Banker, tackles the many policy questions resulting from the failure of First Republic Bank. He also discusses three regulatory reports examining two failures in March—and another report detailing how the FDIC wants to revamp deposit insurance.
2023-05-02
32 min
Banking with Interest
How a Former FHFA Director Would Reform the FHLBs
Mark Calabria, the former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, offers his take on recent criticisms that the Federal Home Loan Banks have gone too far outside their mission—and what he would do to address them.
2023-04-25
46 min
Banking with Interest
How Banking Policy Has Changed After Two Massive Bank Failures
Richard Hunt, the former head of the Consumer Bankers Association, and Jaret Seiberg, managing director of Washington Research Group with TD Cowen, return to the show to discuss the post-SVB bank policy world. Is the crisis over? Will Congress enact new legislation and what will it target? What banks are now considered too big to fail?
2023-04-18
37 min
Banking with Interest
What We Learned After Two Hearings on SVB, Signature Failures
Claire Williams, the Capitol Hill reporter for American Banker and Brendan Pedersen, the banking reporter for PunchBowl News, offer their takeaways from back-to-back hearings on the failures of Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank. They discuss what lawmakers were focused on and how regulators responded as well as preview potential regulatory and legislative changes ahead.
2023-03-30
34 min
Banking with Interest
The Industry Demanded a Bailout. This Regulator Said No.
Mark Calabria, former director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency and author of the new book Shelter from the Storm, talks about why he resisted calls to bailout mortgage servicers during the pandemic, and how he knew their predictions of another mortgage crisis were overblown.
2023-03-16
41 min
Banking with Interest
The Steep Price Banks May Pay After Latest Financial Rescue
Emily Flitter, finance reporter for the New York Times, tackles the big questions stemming from the extraordinary actions taken by regulators on Sunday. Is this a bailout? Is there another banking crisis in the offing? What are the potential costs to banks? Will they face Dodd-Frank 2.0?
2023-03-14
31 min
Banking with Interest
Politico’s Guida on Fed Tea Leaves, Vice Chair Pick and CBDCs
Victoria Guida, economic policy reporter for Politico, dives into what Fed officials are trying to tell markets—and why markets don’t always appear to be taking the hint. She also tackles the latest names up to be the new Fed vice chair and whether Treasury secretly wants to create a central bank digital currency.
2023-03-07
40 min
Banking with Interest
Are Banks Ready for the Deposit Battle Royale in 2023?
Bankers nationwide are experiencing heightened competition for deposits as consumers increasingly recognize their ability to shop for the best rate. Neil Stanley, founder and CEO of The CorePoint, discusses the best strategies banks can use to keep their existing deposits and attract new ones.
2023-02-28
39 min
Banking with Interest
What Other Banks Can Learn from Wells Fargo’s Past Troubles
Kevin Wack, national editor for American Banker, talks about his multi-part series examining the phony-accounts scandal at Wells Fargo, how he persuaded a former key executive there to provide previously unknown details about what happened, and what other institutions can learn.
2023-02-14
26 min
Banking with Interest
Inside the CFPB's Battle Over Credit Card Late Fees
The CFPB surprised the banking industry last week by proposing to limit credit card late fees to $8, a much lower figure than most expected. Ian Katz, managing director of Capital Alpha Partners and a former Bloomberg reporter, discusses what other specifics are in the plan, how the industry is reacting, and how the issue is likely to play out this year.
2023-02-07
27 min
Banking with Interest
Are the FHLBs Dangerously Off Mission?
While the Federal Housing Finance Agency conducts a historic review of the Federal Home Loan Banks’ mission, several critics are questioning whether the housing government-sponsored enterprises have lost sight of their original purpose. Karen Shaw Petrou, managing partner of Federal Financial Analytics details the controversy, and how the FHLBs should be reformed.
2023-01-31
29 min
Banking with Interest
Banking-as-a-Service is “Here to Stay,” New Association CEO Says
Bill Briggs, a key architect of the Paycheck Protection Program, talks about his just-announced role as the CEO of the Banking as a Service Association, a group representing banks that partner with fintechs to allow them to offer financial services. He discusses the need for a new set of best practices and how he believes the model is here for good despite enhanced regulatory scrutiny of bank-fintech partnerships.
2023-01-24
26 min
Banking with Interest
Rodgin Cohen on Crypto, Capital and M&A Challenges
H. Rodgin Cohen, the senior chair of Sullivan & Cromwell and one of the country’s preeminent bank lawyers, talks about how heightened regulatory scrutiny of M&A is impacting the industry, whether some banks are “too big to manage,” the Fed’s plans to raise capital, and the dire need for crypto regulations.
2023-01-17
44 min
Banking with Interest
Pardon The Interruption: The Banking Policy Edition
Polite disagreement is overrated. Richard Hunt, the former CEO of the Consumer Bankers Association, and Jaret Seiberg, a top bank analyst with Cowen Washington Research Group, spar (and sometimes agree) over several critical topics in financial services. That includes pending Fed changes to capital standards, Zelle alterations, FedNow, CRA reform, FTX's fallout, CFPB’s future, pot banking and much more.
2022-12-13
50 min
Banking with Interest
Inside the Battle Over Fed Master Accounts
The Fed is proposing to name all nonbank companies that apply for—and ultimately receive—a master account with the central bank. Kyle Campbell, the Fed reporter for American Banker, goes through why this issue matters to banks, how it connects to both a lawsuit and possible legislation, and where it’s going next.
2022-12-06
31 min
Banking with Interest
Why Regulators Need to Rework CRA Reform: Ludwig
Eugene Ludwig, the former Comptroller of the Currency who led the last successful effort to reform the Community Reinvestment Act, details why the current proposal by regulators needs to be reproposed. He also tackles how banks should be evaluating their fintech partnerships in light of supervisory scrutiny, and how he sees the fintech sector as a managing partner at venture capital fund Canapi Ventures.
2022-11-29
42 min
Banking with Interest
What Election Surprises, Crypto Chaos and Twitter Meltdown Mean for Bankers
It’s been another hectic week in the financial regulatory world, with Democrats unexpectedly outperforming in the midterm elections while separately another crypto meltdown ensued. But what will this mean for bankers? John Heltman, the Washington Bureau Chief of American Banker, and Brendan Pedersen, the financial services reporter for PunchBowl News, provide analysis on Democrats keeping the Senate, Rep. Patrick McHenry as the likely chairman of House Financial Services Committee, and whether the crypto news adds momentum to a stablecoin bill. They also discuss Twitter's nascent plans to become a payments company and offer money market products.
2022-11-15
52 min
Banking with Interest
Brookings’ Klein on Stablecoin’s Downsides, CBDC Myths and More Fed Cowbell
Aaron Klein, the Miriam K. Carliner Chair and senior fellow in Economic Studies at the Brookings Institution, discusses how the growth of stablecoins could hurt banks, why financial inclusion isn’t going to be solved by a central bank digital currency and why D.C. always wants to give the Federal Reserve more power.
2022-11-08
46 min