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The Color of Dust
76. The Art of Anger: Ira, the First of Bosch's Seven Deadly Sins
How do you handle your anger? Are you the explosive type? The brooding type? The kind who suppresses? However you handle it, we think you’ll enjoy our conversation about anger as we consider the first of the seven deadly sins depicted by Hieronymus Bosch (c. 1450-1516) in his painting The Seven Deadly Sins and the Four Last Things. The first little section of this painting, known as Ira (the Latin for anger), has quite a bit to say, and we hope it will be helpful to you. Ira is located in the lowest position on Bosch’s table-top pain...
2025-11-19
1h 12
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75. The Wreck of the Deutschland, Pt. I
December 7, 2025 marks the 150th anniversary of the wreck of the Deutschland, the event on which Gerard Manley Hopkins based the first of his ‘mature’ poems, which was written shortly after the tragedy. After becoming a Jesuit priest in 1868, Hopkins had decided not to write poetry anymore, but this event, along with some nudging by one of his superiors, catapulted him back to pen and paper. The sheer eruption that ensued would be known as The Wreck of the Deutschland, one of the greatest English poems ever written; and, although he composed the poem in 1875, it was not published until 1918—thirty...
2025-11-15
1h 03
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74. Andy Squyres
It was our joy to have Andy Squyres on The Color of Dust. Andy is a beloved musician and poet, who speaks with candor and wisdom. His website is AndySquyres.com, and he has a lively Instagram account. Here is the image used for the talking points of this episode…and our apologies to Amy!Chapters00:00 Opening Reflections and Prayer 01:47 Introducing Andy Squyres 07:36 Transitioning from Ministry to Music 25:59 Challenging Sacred Cows in Art and Faith 41:47 The Lifelong Journey of Faith 42:55 Art, Agenda, and Authenticity 46:37 The Power of Mystery and Awe 48:38 Reflections on Amarillo 55:50 'G...
2025-11-12
1h 20
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73. Shame (Reprise)
We discuss Wendell Berry’s poem “Do Not Be Ashamed.” This is a repost of episode 35, and we thought it would be fitting to share again. We’ll be back next time with a new episode. Below you will find the full poem.Do Not Be Ashamed by Wendell BerryYou will be walking some nightin the comfortable dark of your yardand suddenly a great light will shineround about you, and behind youwill be a wall you never saw before.It will be clear to you suddenlythat you were about to escape,and that you are guil...
2025-10-29
1h 38
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72. Pied Beauty, AI, & Human Calling
Dr. Thomas Dilworth joins The Color of Dust to talk about the poem Pied Beauty by Gerard Manley Hopkins. This poem is a celebration of all things dapple, including the relationship between God and his creation. Dr. Dilworth explains how Hopkins seeks to renew our old religious cliches in a way that had never been done before: by pointing to all things strange. Not only will this conversation help you to celebrate whatever is ‘counter’ in your own life, but also it will challenge you to rethink your relationship with artificial intelligence. Ultimately, your calling as a human dapple is a...
2025-10-22
1h 01
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71. The 7 Deadly Sins of Hieronymus Bosch
Today, we begin our exploration of The Seven Deadly Sins and the Four Last Things by Hieronymus Bosch, who was a Dutch painter (c. 1450-1516). Below you will find the two paintings we referenced during this episode, as well as the chapter headings.Chapters00:00 Jack plays his concertina 03:12 The Role of Music in Memory 06:11 Exploring Hieronymus Bosch’s Art 09:02 Approaching the Painting Intuitively 12:14 The Seven Deadly Sins and Their Representation 14:41 Symbolism in Bosch’s Work 17:47 The Eye and Its Significance 20:45 The Reflection of Christ in Our Lives 23:45 The Nature of Sin and Redemption 26:40 Concluding Thoughts on A...
2025-10-15
1h 07
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70. More < 1
As we discuss in this episode, some of our listeners share the same discontent as we do about being an artist and/or person of faith and feeling like you always have to chase the algorithm. Our technological rat race is unsettling, to say the least, and dehumanizing, to speak more honestly.Jack hijacks this episode right at the start to talk with us about a solution—and it involves all of us. He turns the whole enterprise on its head and opens up a can of worms that we hope one of which will lure you in...
2025-10-08
1h 08
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69. A Good Tool Can Change Your Life
Those of us who are troubled about what we’re seeing unfold around us—and even in our own lives—often feel overwhelmed at what to do. How do we “push back” against rampant materialism, encroaching technology, and insufferable meaninglessness. Even those of us with faith may go through long, empty stretches of wondering where God is to be found in the day-to-day struggle.The answer may be nearer to hand than you realize. It might not be in a better philosophical or religious belief system, a change of political “regimes,” or a complete overhaul of our society; but i...
2025-10-01
1h 12
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68. What Is Your Favorite Tool?
There’s nothing fancy about this episode: we talk about tools—the kind of tools that you can have a one to one relationship with. Artists use tools; and tools help to make us human. We discuss tools in the Bible, the difference between tools and machines, the cyclical nature of tools, Wendell Berry’s principles for adopting new technology, and much more. Tools carry stories with them, and they connect us to the world around us. Toward the beginning of the episode, Seth reads his poem Windvanes (see below). While you can take a look a...
2025-09-24
1h 05
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Morning Preyer: The Windhover
While I hope Gerard Manley Hopkins would at least humor my title pun, I am more confident he would enjoy this discussion I had with Dr. Thomas Dilworth about “The Windhover,” a stunning poem written by Hopkins in 1877, which was the same year he was ordained as a Jesuit priest. What begins with a pedestrian thinking he “caught” a Kestrel (Windhover) in flight one morning, turns out to be a theophanic encounter. This poem will catch you off guard with its beauty, depth, and joy for ordinary, dappled things. Dr. Dilworth points to the astonishing relationship between the falcon, the cros...
2025-09-20
1h 02
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67. Mary Magdalene and the Cost of Creativity
We outline several comparisons in today’s episode, such as between painting and photography, ultimately to discern what art is “doing” and how to celebrate each kind of creativity. The artforms that we discuss, from poetry to ballet, entail a kind of resistance that is absent from most modern technologies. We spend the second half of the conversation exploring one of Jack’s recent drawings of Mary Magdalene, and we come to recognize the cost of creativity. We hope this conversation will stimulate both your faith and artistic endeavors. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the grou...
2025-09-17
1h 21
ArtWorks
Farmer and artist Jack Baumgartner shows off 'The Fourth Vision of Zecharia'
Jack Baumgartner is a farmer in Rose Hill. His most recent work, “The Fourth Vision of Zecharia,” has already been acquired for a private collection. Torin Andersen talked with Baumgartner before this painting left his studio.
2025-09-15
04 min
The Color of Dust
A Life-changing Clip about Firewood
Here is a clip from episode 66 with Paul Pastor, in case you missed it. In less than seven minutes, he will change your view of modern technology and motivate you to reconsider what we mean by “better.” This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit colorofdust.substack.com
2025-09-15
06 min
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66. Paul Pastor: An Ironic Point of Light
In this episode, Seth connects with his friend, Paul Pastor. We talk about The Locust Years, a book of poems published by Wise Blood Books, which is illustrated by our previous guest, Michael Cook. We get into a stirring conversation with Paul, which includes a lifegiving “rant” about firewood. We asked Paul to read three of his poems from the new collection, so you can experience his poems in their native “tongue.” To learn more about Paul, go to https://www.pauljpastor.com. Also, Paul has a Substack that you can follow called Rose Fire.The music for this...
2025-09-10
1h 07
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The Christ Who Plays
Dr. Thomas Dilworth joins us today to talk about the poem “As Kingfishers Catch Fire” by Gerard Manley Hopkins (1844-1889). After discussing the life of Hopkins and his early influences, we move through the poem line by line. Following our discussion, we have a special audio recital of the poem by our own Seth Wieck. Below you will find both the poem and the music chosen for this episode.As Kingfishers Catch Fire As kingfishers catch fire, dragonflies draw flame; As tumbled over rim in roundy wells Stones ring; like each tucked string tells, each hung bell's Bow...
2025-09-03
59 min
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65. The Disembodied Image
We continue our discussion of “The Break,” giving particular attention to AI. More than ever, we lay our cards on the table about the direction we think our culture is headed. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover. Chapters00:00 Exploring the Concept of the Break 03:45 The Intersection of Art and Technology 10:23 AI and the Nature of Beauty 20:31 The Role of Art in Humanity 25:35 Reflections on Technology and Meaning 38:15 The Dichotomy of Art: Useful vs. Gratuitous 41:27 The Materiality of Art: Disembodied Images 46:53 The Impact of Digital Archives on Art 51:09 The...
2025-08-27
1h 10
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64. The Break
In this episode, we explore the idea of “The Break.” This gets us into a discussion of spoons, as you would expect—and from spoons to civilizations and back again. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Episode 64 and AI Discussion 02:30 The Break: Understanding David Jones's Concept 06:11 Utility vs. Gratuity: The Cultural Dilemma 13:51 The Role of Beauty in Modern Civilization 21:59 Man as Maker: The Meaning Behind Creation 28:32 Exploring Historical Contexts of Utility and Gratuity 32:40 The Uneasy Relationship with Technology and Labor 35:47 Utilitarianism vs. Gratuitousness in Sacrif...
2025-08-20
1h 01
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63. Taking Stock
During this special episode, we take stock of where we’ve been and what we’re all about—and Jack gives us a special musical performance of his song “When Death Had Its Heyday/Where O Death Is Your Sting?”We also included Jack’s song “The Burning Sun Cried Jonah” within the episode, and you can listen to the full song here: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit colorofdust.substack.com
2025-08-13
1h 15
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Dylan Thomas Reads His Greatest Poem
“The more people who know this poem, the better culture will be,” said Dr. Thomas Dilworth during our conversation about arguably one of Dylan Thomas’s greatest poems, which is titled “Poem on His Birthday.”In addition to the text of his poem below, we’re giving you a powerful audio recording of Dylan Thomas reading his poem, along with inciteful commentary from Dr. Dilworth, a scholar of Modern Literature and Romantic poetry.You can enjoy Badinerie by J.S. Bach played throughout this episode here, compliments of the Canadian Brass:Poem on His Birthday...
2025-08-11
55 min
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The Dancing Efflorescence
This is the poem Jack read at the end of episode 62 of The Color of Dust lawndcast, which was titled, An Altar of Unhewn Lawnd. Jack ‘brought out’ this treasure at the 1 hour and sixteen minute mark, and I wanted to make sure you didn’t miss it, so I am highlighting it here. There are many lines, if not the entire poem, which would be good to commit to memory.the dancing efflorescence is it good for a flower to linger to last forever is it good man is like the grass and is forever fading the bl...
2025-08-08
01 min
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62. An Altar of Unhewn Lawnd
In this conversation, we explore the multifaceted symbolism of grass in the Bible, discussing its connections to beauty, transience, and the human experience. We reflect on how modern relationships with nature have changed, particularly regarding lawns and their cultural significance. The discussion delves into themes of stewardship, the beauty found in fleeting moments, and the importance of recognizing life's impermanence as a source of meaning and freedom. Through various biblical references and personal anecdotes, we emphasize the profound connections between beauty, grief, and the cycles of life.The song used throughout this episode is “Lift Earth Rise” by J...
2025-08-06
1h 19
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Meditation on Briar Cup
I recently received a print of Briar Cup, which David Jones painted in 1932. Even though this is somewhat of an extended meditation, it is quite simple. I do not pretend to be an expert on the imagery here, but I wanted to offer to you what I see in this dazzling picture. I’ve included the written “poem” meditation (below), in addition to the audio; take your time, and as they say, “sit with” his painting, and allow it to reinvigorate your imagination.Meditation on Briar Cup You are looking down on a vase, a cup, filled with wildf...
2025-08-02
17 min
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61. Defending the Cheese
What do you get when you mix a profound rant about cheese by Seth, with a rant about technology and suffering by Jack, with a rant about the dancing plagues by Sam? Well, you get episode 61 of The Color of Dust. Despite the felicitous title, this is a serious episode about death, technology, suffering, and the joy of living. Henri Nouwen wrote: It is the gift of our own life that shines through all we do. As I grow older, I discover more and more that the greatest gift I have to offer is my...
2025-07-23
1h 20
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Joining the Boar Hunt
This episode is dedicated to Thomas’s brother, William “Billy” Dilworth, whom you can read about here in the New York Times.“The main theme of this great poem is metamorphosis,” says Dr. Thomas Dilworth about the poem The Hunt by David Jones. He adds, “The entire poem is an adverbial clause…and yet it’s cosmic warfare.” Dr. Dilworth is the preeminent David Jones scholar, and he joins us today to talk about the magnificent poem The Hunt. There is much packed into this episode, so we encourage you to pay close attention to all that Dr. Dilwo...
2025-07-19
49 min
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60. Requiem for the Sting of Death
Jack begins this episode by playing his new song “When Death Had Its Heyday (Where O Death Is Your Sting).” Then we talk about music and prayer for a bit, before moving onto a discussion about the sting of death. We consider questions like: Is death natural? How are we to understand the ‘sting’ of death? What is resurrection? How did Jesus view death? What does all this have to do with music? We don’t pretend to have the answers, so please let us know your thoughts, too!The song used throughout this episode is “Root Rill” by Jac...
2025-07-16
1h 13
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59. The Diary of a Tree
Over the past few years, Jack has been crafting a special book called The Diary of a Tree Standing on Its Head. It is part of the story of his journey of faith. The book is comprised of drawings, poems, letters, institutes, and recorded visions. Making the book has been an expensive and a time-consuming endeavor, which Jack has embraced as his loving ministry. He has experimented with different bindings and has added additional content to later editions; and he has managed to keep the quality excellent. If you’re wondering how you might get a copy of...
2025-07-09
1h 16
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Night Watch by David Jones (with Thomas Dilworth)
“War is a test case for the meaning of life,” observes Dr. Thomas Dilworth, as he introduces this special audio recording of David Jones.In Parenthesis is an epic poem by David Jones published in 1937, containing seven sections. It tells the story of a group of British soldiers as they travel from England to the trenches of the Battle of Somme in WWI. Section three is a night watch. Although Jones wrote In Parenthesis as a fictional account of Private John Ball and other soldiers, he draws from his own experiences in The Great War, one of whic...
2025-07-05
22 min
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58. Losing My Dad
For Kurt Baumgartner (1949-2025). In this episode, Jack weaves together a beautiful story of the dying of his dad. Listeners will appreciate his vulnerability, insight, and ability to make meaningful connections. Although your family context will no doubt be different than Jack’s, you can still learn to marvel at the ancient technology of death. Our deepest sympathies to the Baumgartner family from the Color of Dust community.“All flesh is grass, and all its beauty is like the flower of the field.” (Isaiah 40:6)Here is the video that Jack r...
2025-07-02
1h 18
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57. Poetry & Pop
Jack regularly tells us “everything belongs,” and we think this applies to pop music, too! After some discussion about poetry and how the church handles (or mishandles) metaphor, we turn our attention to pop icon Taylor Swift. As usual, we have our own unique take on her, which we hope you will find (at least) interesting.Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover.Here’s a great Taylor Swift moment from Saturday Night Live:Some pictures from a Color of Dust listener, Michelle Terry…Chapters...
2025-06-25
52 min
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The Hunt by David Jones
After our series on the artist and poet David Jones, some of you dubbed this summer as “The summer of David Jones!” You’ve downloaded Dr. Thomas Dilworth’s biography, you’ve read his chapter on The Anathemata, and you’ve purchased The Anathemata, perhaps not knowing what you were getting into! Well, today is the official start of summer, and we here at The Color of Dust have another treat for you. Dr. Thomas Dilworth has made available to us some recordings of David Jones reading his poems. And over the next several Saturdays, we will be sharing these with y...
2025-06-21
10 min
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56. How Dads Shape Our Authentic Artistic Voice
We talk about fatherhood and the artistic voice through the lens of two poems, one by Seamus Heaney (“Digging”), and the other by Seth Wieck (“Names of Crops”; see below). We compare the two poems and sprinkle in a little of our own stories as we go. We hope this will encourage you to consider the ‘soil’ from which you came and how it might nourish your own authentic artistic voice. Here is Seamus Heaney reading “Digging”:And here is “Names of Crops” by our very own Seth Wieck:Names of Crops For Christopher Timothy ...
2025-06-18
1h 07
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55. Hallowed Art with Michael Cook
“Art is my contribution, small as it is,” Michael Cook said during our conversation with him. Michael is an artist and friend of ours from Derbyshire in England. He is warmhearted, very thoughtful, and tuned-in to the world around him. His art and writing are both sensitive and moving, filled with timeless depth. We shared this special moment with Michael, speaking to us from his studio—where you can see a sketch of a unicorn on his drafting table. In this episode, we meditate on three pieces of his art (see below); and we hope you will be enc...
2025-06-11
1h 17
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54. Keeping up with the (David) Joneses
In this episode, we discuss artistic influence, the nature of freedom in art, and creative neglect—all while circling the “mass quantity” otherwise known as David Jones. How do you navigate influence and originality? One essential idea from this episode is returning to the fountain itself for inspiration. We also challenge each other in what Jack calls ‘creative neglect’ — burying your treasure. And along the way show a connection between faith, art, and freedom. Below is David Jones’s “Flora in Calix Light” (1950), which we show and discuss during the episode. Take a look at the chapter headings below to...
2025-06-04
1h 16
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53. 'Balls up Kind of Praise' with Thomas Dilworth
Conversations like this are pure gold if you can find them. We had the joy of speaking with Dr. Thomas Dilworth about his life and work and friendship with David Jones. We found Tom to be just as kind and warm as people say that Jones was, not to mention just as intellectually inspiring. Dr. Dilworth has a very special gift for you, dear listener! He has made available to us his monumental unabridged biography of David Jones pro gratis. While we also encourage you to purchase the shorter hardback version of David Jones: Engraver, Soldier, Painter...
2025-05-28
1h 06
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52. The Magic of Poetry
In this episode, we talk about the impact that David Jones has been having in our lives. We then answer a listener’s question about poetry and form. Along the way, both Sam and Seth share a poem. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover.Chapters02:15 Creative Arts and Spirituality 04:04 Exploring David Jones' Influence 09:59 The Tension Between Art and Personal Life 16:59 Suffering and Artistic Expression 24:54 Finding God in Labor and Suffering 30:01 The Role of Understanding in Spiritual Experience 34:07 Exploring the Nature of God and Art 39:31 The Magic of Po...
2025-05-21
1h 14
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51. The Anathemata with Jane Scharl
Jane Scharl is our guest today, as we journey further into the life of David Jones, specifically, his long poem “The Anathemata.” She gives a wonderful overview of this complex poem, so if you are thinking about reading it (or even if you have read it before), this episode is essential. Jane helps us to see that as we travel through the “wasteland,” there is still hope. Our vocation is to gather “signs,” whether made by our hands or the hands of another, and offer them to God. There is much beauty in this episode—especially in its quiet moments—and in...
2025-05-14
1h 09
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50. A Defense of Gratuitousness
We continue to dig into the life and art of David Jones, exploring how his experiences in World War I influenced his artistic expression. We highlight the significance of an encounter he had on the front lines, the protective relationships in his life, and the reconciliation of chaos and peace in his work. We touch on modernism, the concepts of utility versus gratuity in art, and the transitive/intransitive nature of artistic expression, culminating in an appreciation for Jones' calligraphy as a profound representation of his artistic vision. Experiencing Jones’s art is a slow, contemplative process that defies qu...
2025-05-07
1h 16
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49. The Search for David Jones
David Jones (1895-1974) was a British soldier, engraver, artist, and poet. T.S. Eliot said of Jones: “Of major importance…One of the most distinguished writers of my generation.” He was also praised by Igor Stravinsky and Seamus Heany. W.H. Auden celebrated “In Parenthesis” as a masterpiece and the greatest book about the First World War. This is our first episode exploring the life and faith of David Jones. Thomas Dilworth wrote a wonderful biography on Jones, which you can find here. We also mention two other books by David Jones, “The Anathemata” and “Epoch and Artist.” Here are the vid...
2025-04-30
1h 22
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48. There's Blood Everywhere
“We’re missing something—maybe it’s the beauty of those feet,” Jack suggests, referring to the grotesque, mangled feet of Christ depicted in the Isenheim Altarpiece. He asks, “What happens if we stay in that brokenness?” This is what we explore in this special “reprise” of episode 6 (The Isenheim Effect); this is the second half of that episode, beginning right when Jack started telling stories about sheep. This is one of our favorite episodes, and we thought it appropriate to share (again) right after Easter. Also, Seth reads the wonderful poem “April Prelude” by Maya Venters (be sure to check out her Subst...
2025-04-23
45 min
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Entering 'The Sacrifice' by George Herbert
We participate in Good Friday by entering “The Sacrifice” by George Herbert. If you are able, spend some time with this poem and feel its truths. It’s truths are music, beauty, emotion, and faith, coalescing in the present—where we all can meet together at the beautiful, broken feet of Christ, our Deliverer. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit colorofdust.substack.com
2025-04-18
17 min
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Procession (Anathema Maranatha)
Procession (Anathema Maranatha) Route 66/Interstate 40, Groom, Texas, pop. 549 Once or twice each March and April, this mist marches into the roadside town of Groom where stands in steel the nineteen-story monument the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ. On usual clear plain days, the cross looms— a white obelisk with an obelisk beam— against a sky the painters call bice blue. For nearly thirty years, one saw it first driving West—the long shadow dialing East like a Roman clock. America’s mother road prostrate below the corpseless cross, alone. The level grasslands stretched far away. For the last three ye...
2025-04-17
02 min
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47. The Hidden Journey of Christ
We continue our discussion of the sixteenth century Flemish painter Pieter Bruegel the Elder and his painting “The Procession to Calvary.” Throughout, we refer to the 2011 movie “The Mill and the Cross.” As you tend to your heart this Holy Week, we invite you to meditate on this painting, along with our (fumbling) discussion. Also, we finish reciting the poem “The Sacrifice” by George Herbert. Be sure to watch the video of this episode to view the painting as we talk about it. ChaptersExploring George Herbert's 'The Sacrifice' Discussion on Bruegel's 'Christ on the Way to Calva...
2025-04-16
1h 14
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46. The Mill and the Cross
Today we discuss the sixteenth century Flemish painter Pieter Bruegel the Elder and his painting “The Procession to Calvary.” No doubt, in this extraordinary masterpiece (redundancy necessary!), which contains more than 500 people, you are likely to find yourself. A listener’s recommendation about the 2011 movie “The Mill and the Cross” prompted this topic. We discuss how time is like a wagon wheel, the cross being its hub. This means we are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses, both ancient and modern. This is the first of two episodes about this painting; we also continue our reading of “The Sacrifice” b...
2025-04-09
1h 01
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45. The Looming Christ
After reading a bit from George Herbert’s “The Sacrifice,” we continue our discussion of Salvador Dali’s painting “Christ of Saint John of the Cross” (1951), by comparing it to a sketch by John of the Cross and the Isenheim Altarpiece by Matthias Gruenwald. The interaction of this trio of artworks births a fruitful understanding of the cross. While we start off a bit ‘suspicious’ of Dali’s painting, by the end of our conversation, we unearth the power of the ‘looming’ Christ. Take a look at the three pieces below, as well as the chapter headings. Chapters00:00 E...
2025-04-02
1h 09
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44. The Nuclear Mysticism of Christ of Dali
We begin a two-part series on Salvador Dali and his painting “Christ of St. John of the Cross.” We recognize that Dali was both thorny and mercurial, bringing these aspects of his life into the discussion about his 1951 painting. We also read the first fifteen stanzas of George Herbert’s poem “The Sacrifice.” Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Color of Dust 06:37 Exploring George Herbert's 'The Sacrifice' 12:34 The Role of Poetry in Worship 16:20 Salvador Dali: A Controversial Artist 23:33 Dali's Background and Artistic Journey 31:27 The Inters...
2025-03-26
1h 04
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43. How to Talk about the Fracture
Our reading of the “The Coming” by R.S. Thomas quickly turns into a barfight, which is par for the course for Thomas. Only after eighteen shots of whiskey—oh wait, wrong Thomas—do we settle into the nadir of the poem, discovering our lives in relationship to God, despite the fracture in which we find ourselves. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover. Chapters00:00 The Warmth of Heated Seats and Antifreeze Mishaps 01:54 The Search for Meaning in Poetry 03:29 Navigating the Challenges of Podcasting 06:23 The Intersection of Art and Publ...
2025-03-19
1h 12
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Hawk Lies Down with Rabbit
Several years ago while I was working on this poem, I was talking to my friend and pastor David about the passage in Isaiah 11 where the lion shall eat straw like the ox. “I don’t know what to make of that kind of heaven,” I said. “Lions aren’t lions if they eat straw.” Now, I know what a metaphor is. Isaiah was speaking of other things. Kingdoms who clashed with other kingdoms suddenly laying down their weapons in peace. But I couldn’t get past the literal image of the lion and the ox. Even if Isaiah was talking ab...
2025-03-14
01 min
The Beaver Banter Podcast
CCHA Tournament Recap w/USCHO's Jack Hittinger & Other Beaver Notes
Jack Hittinger of USCHO (and formerly of the Bemidji Pioneer makes his Beaver Banter debut to talk about the Beavers HUGE upset win over Augustana in the CCHA Mason Cup Quarterfinals!Where does last weekend rank in Jack's memories of big Beaver hockey moments?What can BSU to to knock off Minnesota State this Saturday?Recapping MBB and womens hockey seasonsUpdates from baseball, softball, and womens tennis
2025-03-12
55 min
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42. Pothole Eschatology
There are plenty of eschatological systems out there, but most of them, ironically, seem to put the apocalypse out of focus—and out of reach. In this episode, we introduce something we’re calling “pothole eschatology,” which makes the apocalypse as visible and nutrient-dense as the soil beneath your feet. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates 03:56 Reflections on Parenting and Independence 06:52 The Kingdom of God: Maturation and Transition 10:04 Eschatology: Understanding the End Times 13:01 The Duality of Destruction and Renewal 16:17 Literalism vs. Metaphor in Scrip...
2025-03-12
1h 01
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41. Experiencing the Apocalypse through Art
It is easy to get caught-up with analyzing the book of Revelation, or to get sidetracked by the issue of “time.” Jack told us that his goal in painting “His Eyes Are Like a Fiery Flame” (2024) from Revelation 19 was first to create an experience for himself, and then to create an experience for his viewers, as they encounter it. We hope you are helped in both your understanding and experience of the apocalypse through this episode. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover. Chapters00:00 Exploring Apocalyptic Themes 03:25 The Arroganc...
2025-03-05
1h 06
The Color of Dust
40. The Manifestation of Eternal Presence in the World
We continue our discussion of Jack’s painting “His Eyes Are Like a Fiery Flame” (2024). We add to the conversation Seth’s recent essay “My Own Personal Apocalypse,” which you can read at his Substack In Solitude, For Company. Should we get on board with culture’s current obsession with ‘all things apocalypse?’ Or should we restrict the apocalypse to a one-time event at the end of history? There’s plenty of nuance in this conversation between these extremes. We hope you are prompted to ponder “the manifestation of Eternal Presence in the world.”Take a look at the chapter headings...
2025-02-26
1h 08
The Color of Dust
39. Behind the Scenes of Creativity
In this episode, Jack engages Sam and Seth in a candid conversation that was prompted by a listener's question about their lives outside of podcasting. They explore their respective careers, personal interests, and the significance of their creative pursuits. Sam shares insights from his work as a machinist and his passion for poetry, while Seth discusses his journey through various careers, including writing, teaching, and real estate appraisal. The conversation delves into the intersection of art, nature, and vocation, highlighting the importance of routine and the beauty found in everyday experiences.Take a look at the chapter...
2025-02-19
54 min
The Color of Dust
38. What Does It Mean to Change the Dream?/Emilee VerDuin
Our very special guest was Emilee VerDuin, aka, MudHut Illustration. Emilee is a Visionary Christian Artist living in Bulgaria. She shares about some of the changes in her life as she moves from the city to the countryside of Bulgaria. This leads us to explore the concept of wilderness and wounding. We look at some of her wonderful art, considering its particular aspects. Emilee raises the question, “What does it mean to change the dream?” Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover. And be sure to listen all the way to the end...
2025-02-12
1h 29
The Lucas Vos Podcast
Jack Baumgartner - Art, Farming, Family & Faith - Lucas Vos Podcast #82
Jack Baumgartner is an artist and a farmer. Emilee Verduin connected us and I'm so happy she did. It was a very warm conversation and I thoroughly enjoyed speaking to Jack. Please find his work below: Art: https://baumwerkshop.com/ Farm: https://www.baumwerkfarm.com/ Podcast: https://colorofdust.substack.com/ My links: Twitter: https://twitter.com/LucasVous Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lucasvoz/ Find the show on your favorite podcast app: https://pod.link/1704624799 Watch the podcast on Youtube: ht...
2025-02-09
2h 07
The Color of Dust
37. Painting the Apocalypse
In this episode, we introduce Jack Baumgartner’s oil painting “His Eyes Are Like a Fiery Flame” (2024). This gets us into the book of Revelation, painting in eternity, a poem by R. S. Thomas, symbolism in art, time and eternity, and God’s love for the land. Jack shares some background to his painting, as well as part of his process when creating. Seth and Sam layer the conversation with their own observations and questions. Check out the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover. Chapters00:00 The Burden of Time and Creativity 09:28 Co-Creation and Arti...
2025-02-05
1h 02
The Color of Dust
36. Creativity As Spiritual Warfare
This is an “introduction” to our introduction on Jack Baumgartner’s painting, which is titled “His Eyes Are Like a Fiery Flame” (2024). Thus, we begin to talk about the book of Revelation. Some themes that surface are active sight vs. passive sight, the healing properties of art, and creativity as spiritual warfare. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover.Many thanks to Jack for playing the banjo for us at the beginning! Chapters00:00 Introduction (with some Banjo) and Setting the Scene 03:16 The Role of Art in Theology 0...
2025-01-29
1h 22
The Color of Dust
35. Do Not Be Ashamed/Wendell Berry Poem
We take a deep dive into shame through the lens of the poem “Do Not Be Ashamed” by Wendell Berry. Our cover art image—which fits perfectly with this poem—is a 2000 watercolor by Elizabeth Wang called, “I remember being outwardly carefree, but I was inwardly pierced by a shame so intense I could hardly go on, sometimes nearly groaning out loud.” Her title is a good summary of where we go in this personal episode. Take a look at the chapter titles below to see more of the ground we cover. As usual, the music in this episode was written...
2025-01-22
1h 38
The Color of Dust
34. Leaves of Healing/Matt Miller
To begin the new year, Dr. Matthew Miller joins us to talk about his new book Leaves of Healing: A Year in the Garden. His book brings together the church calendar with the “garden” calendar. As usual, the fellas have plenty of insights to add. Thank you, Matt, for this delightful conversation! Look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover.Matt Miller is a native Nebraskan now living in Branson, Missouri, where he serves as Associate Professor of English at College of the Ozarks. He writes regularly for Front Porch Republic, Fare Forward, The...
2025-01-15
1h 10
The Color of Dust
Tom Brown Talks Kahki
I made this little video of my dear friend Tom Brown, who farms and makes hard cider just a few miles from my farm, talking about the origins of Khaki and then veers into describing a very wonderful Erdu saying. It is very in the spirit of the Color of Dust and I love it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit colorofdust.substack.com
2025-01-03
07 min
The Color of Dust
The Anatomy of a Wound: What I See in “Go On, Wounded Healer”
When Jack Baumgartner shared his drawing “Go on, Wounded Healer,” he confessed: “There may be so much I would want to say about this drawing that I must therefore say nothing. Breathing and silence.” This drawing is from a collection of drawings titled “The Diary of a Tree Standing on Its Head.” He also wrote beneath the original pencil sketch, “The wound and the five wounds.”Although Jack is probably wiser than me not to talk about this drawing, I’d like to risk telling you what I see. I don’t pretend to see as deeply as Jack, o...
2024-12-23
34 min
The Color of Dust
33. Stuck at the Volta/Hoofs & Horns
We discuss quite a bit in this lively episode, it’s finally the long-awaited “Hoofs & Horns” conversation we’ve been promising. But before we get there, we talk about (challenge?) the popular idea of enchantment and the Medieval cosmology. Even if we’re struggling to see beauty these days, “Beauty still perceives us,” Jack reminds. We open up Seth’s Poetry Garage, and he allows us to see a Sonnet (not a Sonata) he’s been tinkering on. In turn, Jack shares several meaningful drawings of Walking Man with horns—along with a recent drawing of John Moriarty with cameo of Orion. As u...
2024-12-18
1h 16
The Color of Dust
What I See: Go on Shepherd & Lamb
[For your convenience, I’ve provided both an audio and a written format of this article at colorofdust.substack.com.]The artwork of Jack Baumgartner speaks to my heart, and when he shares a piece, I immediately want to start speaking about it, sharing what I see. And then it dawned on me, “Why don’t I?” So, this is my first attempt at sharing “What I see” in Jack’s art.I chose his woodcarving “Go on Shepherd and Lamb.” When he posted this piece, several people suggested he write an essay about it. I’m sorry to disap...
2024-12-13
19 min
The Color of Dust
32. Beauty Matters with Jason Baxter
We were delighted to have Dr. Jason Baxter on the podcast to talk about his latest book, Why Literature Still Matters. Jason is a college professor and author of seven books, including The Medieval Mind of C.S. Lewis and Introduction to Christian Mysticism. He is a medievalis who specialize in Dante and C.S. Lewis, but in his popular writing—which you can find on his brand new Substack Beauty Matters—he explores the intersection of literature and spirituality, technology and the arts, and the relevance of old books.Take a look at the chapter headings belo...
2024-12-11
1h 01
The Color of Dust
31. Put Us in the Line
This is our 18th and final episode in the book of Ruth. We cover Ruth 4:13-22. Take a look at the chapter titles below to see the ground we cover.00:00 The Artistic Journey: Time and Process 09:30 Procrastination: The Artist's Dilemma 18:23 Celebrating Life: The Significance of Birth 26:17 Redemption and Community: The Role of Women 31:19 The Significance of Genealogy 37:47 Chiastic Structures and Literary Techniques 44:39 The Genealogy of David 53:56 The Legacy of David and the Kingdom of GodThanks for reading The Color of Dust! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.
2024-12-04
1h 08
The Color of Dust
30. We Are Witnesses
In our penultimate episode through the book of Ruth, we explore what it means to be a witness, along the way considering what Jack calls the “broken witness,” as well as how social media can help us. Do you know how to show up in an “active” way in your life? Take a look at the chapters headings below to see the ground we cover. As noted in the introduction, this episode is dedicated to Amelia “Mia” Subich (2017-2024), who was about as genuine of a witness to life as you could hope to find (see the picture belo...
2024-11-27
1h 09
The Color of Dust
29. The Symbolism of the Sandal
In today’s episode, we discuss Ruth 4:7-10. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover. Thank you for listening and consider leaving us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Context Setting 07:13 The Integrity of Stories: Comedy vs. Tragedy 16:15 The Grand Narrative: Comedy of Redemption 23:30 Symbolism of the Sandal: Authority and Mediation 30:10 Reflections on Land and Personal Connection 39:31 The Role of Women in Redemption 49:11 Community Celebration and Acceptance 53:39 Artistic Integrity in Storytelling 01:00:53 The Cycle of Life and Death in CreativityThanks for re...
2024-11-20
1h 08
The Color of Dust
28. Miracles All the Way Down
We are closer to miracles than we realize, seeing them in how God created the world and how we respond to it. What is freedom? Can we affirm God’s goodness in adversity? How do we handle fear? These are a few of the questions we explore in this episode on Ruth 4:5-6. Boaz and Ruth show us a profound way to live. Take a look at the Chapter titles below to see the ground we cover. Chapters00:00 Weather and Welcomes 04:42 Prayer and Reflection 07:22 Ruth and Boaz: A Story of Redemption 10:26 The Role of Ruth: A...
2024-11-13
1h 08
The Color of Dust
27. God Bless the Awkwardness
This is our 14th episode in the book of Ruth (which only has four short chapters)! In this episode, we especially want you to think about hope, the awkwardness of redemption, the importance of land, and the significance of the treasure. Take a look at the chapter titles below to see the ground we cover. Chapters00:00 Introduction and Context Setting 03:45 Exploring Hope and Anti-Hope 06:59 The Role of Awkwardness in Redemption 10:54 Zachariah's Vision and Its Implications 14:55 Boaz as the Kinsman Redeemer 18:57 The Significance of the Town Gate 31:01 Understanding Community Dynamics 34:05 The Significance of Names and Identity 36:33...
2024-11-06
1h 02
The Color of Dust
26. At the Feet of Hope
After discussing their favorite poets, the fellas pick up where they left off in the book of Ruth (3:14-18). Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground they cover. Thank you for listening, and if you have a moment, share The Color of Dust with others.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Opening Thoughts 03:54 Favorite Poets and Their Influence 12:52 The Nature of Poetry and Personal Connections 21:51 Exploring the Book of Ruth 31:56 Ruth's Journey and the Role of Boaz 41:45 Clothing as a Symbol in Ruth's Story 42:40 The Symbolism of Clothing and Identity 44:54 Foreshadowing and Redemption...
2024-10-30
1h 24
The Color of Dust
25. The Law Not from Spite
Seth says, “Acedia is the cultural air we breathe.” One way to undermine sloth, is to discover the goodness of the law. From the book of Ruth (3:12-13), Boaz will be our guide. Through his life, we apprehend the law as a person—a good person. And we uphold the law not to perform, but to love. So if you want love to become ‘second nature,’ then you’ll enjoy this episode. Then obedience might become gratitude for existence. Check out the chapter headings below see the ground we cover.Chapters00:00 Opening Reflections and Prayer 03:56 Exploring Ru...
2024-10-23
1h 03
The Color of Dust
24. Everything Can Be Ritual
What at first appears to be a meandering in the pasture of a Kansas sheepfold, turns into a profound meditation on the presence of God in our daily routines, the people that cross our paths, and our acts done when no one seems to be watching. Our text for the episode is Ruth 3:11, “And now, my daughter, do not fear. I will do for you all that you ask, for all my fellow townsmen know that you are a worthy woman.” From this we discover that everything can be ritual. Please let us know what you think abou...
2024-10-16
1h 06
The Color of Dust
23. The Technology of Blessing
“Not dying is the terminal thing.” In this episode, we continue our exploration of blessing. Here’s the text we’re ruminating on: “And he said, ‘May you be blessed by the Lord, my daughter. You have made this last kindness greater than the first in that you have not gone after young men, whether poor or rich’” (Ruth 3:10). Thank you for making this journey with us, and take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we’ll cover together.The music for this episode was written and produced by Jack Baumgartner.Chapters0...
2024-10-09
1h 07
The Color of Dust
22. The Weight of Words
We consider the power of personal blessing on today’s episode. Perhaps you’ve never been blessed before, or maybe you would like to bless someone, but how do you do it? What does it mean? Ruth's story is set against a backdrop of generational curses. Boaz's blessing to Ruth signifies her worthiness and connection to God. Blessings in the Bible often come with intentionality and purpose. Ruth is unique as the only woman blessed by another person in the Old Testament in the name of the Lord. You will discover that the act of blessin...
2024-10-02
1h 16
The Color of Dust
21. Finding Redemption in Everyday Life
Each dialogue we have about the book of Ruth seems even more important than the last. Our passage reads, “Then she came softly and uncovered his feet and lay down. At midnight the man was startled and turned over, and behold, a woman lay at his feet! He said, ‘Who are you?’ And she answered, ‘I am Ruth, your servant. Spread your wings over your servant, for you are a redeemer.’” (Ruth 3:7b-9). In this passage, Boaz and Ruth are at their most intimate. This eternal moment in time helps us to uncover redemption in the day-to-day of our lives. Take...
2024-09-25
1h 10
The Color of Dust
20. At the Threshing Floor
“God was there first.” The fellas dig deep into this crucial theme of the book of Ruth. We examine Ruth and Boaz at the threshing floor in 3:6-7a—considering both the moral implications and cultural context. We explore the meaning of the grain heap, how to interpret Scripture, the thread of redemption, intimacy, and the nature of goodness itself. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover. The music for this episode was written and recorded by Jack Baumgartner.Chapters00:00 Opening Prayer and Introduction to Ruth 03:31 Exploring Non-Dual Polari...
2024-09-18
1h 08
The Color of Dust
Forbidden Places
Here is the poem Sam Kee wrote and read for episode 19 “Non-Dual Polarities.” The poem is based on Ruth 2-3. Forbidden PlacesShe dared to breach the vanguards Of the tall golden garden Not content with just the corners She moved away from edge Closer than the others Not content to glean the crumbs from table Closer still Until she reached the hem of garments Reached deep into the handfuls Caught their ears Whispered her need with tattooed tongue When he saw her near His heart went into exile He commanded harvestmen to let her in D...
2024-09-13
04 min
The Color of Dust
19. Non-Dual Polarities
As we head to the threshing floor, we discuss the upside-down nature of the Kingdom of God. We uncover (no pun intended, Ruth) some of the risky and risqué behaviors our heroine is planning in order to secure a marriage proposal—and ultimately save the world. We end up calling these paradoxes ‘non-dual polarities’ and invite you to wrestle with them as we did. Along the way, Sam reads his poem ‘Forbidden Places.’ Take a look at the chapter titles below to see the ground we cover. As usual, the wonderful music in this episode was written and played by Jack Bau...
2024-09-11
1h 08
The Color of Dust
18. The Miracle of Favor & Acceptance
We have arrived at a turning point for Naomi—she who was empty and bitter is being filled. But how? Today, we talk about the miracle of favor and acceptance. Along the way, Jack describes the agricultural processes of threshing and roasting grain. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover. The music in this episode was written and played by Jack Baumgartner.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Prayer 00:44 Exploring Femininity and Feminine Strength 06:12 The Evolution of Gender Roles 15:37 Hospitality and Abundance: The Communion Meal 26:05 The Miraculous Nature of Favor and Ac...
2024-09-04
1h 08
The Color of Dust
17. The Poor and the Stranger
We continue our journey through the book of Ruth. Take a look below at the chapter headings to see the ground we cover. Make some time to sketch, write, compose, bake, or build, as you listen to this episode—and then send us what you created (through Instagram or email)! The music in this episode was written and performed by Jack Baumgartner. Mail all Baby Ruth candy bars to New Boaz Farm in Kansas. Chapters00:00 Introduction and Prayer 03:26 Exploring Audacity and Boldness 08:41 Boaz: A New Adam and a Model of Care 13:00 The Dangers of...
2024-08-28
57 min
The Color of Dust
An Ember in the Ark
On episode 16, we played a song that Jack wrote in response to our series on the book of Ruth. Here is a recording of his song and its lyrics. We’ve also included a picture of Jack playing the song on his harmonium.“Ruth and Boaz”by Jack Baumgartnerdaughter of my dreaming mother of my homeland husband of my sorrow there is famine in our bones it is hard to understand it is easy to know it but it is hard to understand I stood out on the borders with a stranger in my...
2024-08-24
04 min
The Color of Dust
16. Harvesttime
Brokenness and bitterness give way to fruit—the harvest. We continue our journey through the book of Ruth with a discussion of chapter 2. Take a look at the headings below to see the ground we cover. Jack plays a very moving new song he wrote this week for the episode.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Prayer 03:28 The Symbolism of the Harvest 21:02 Boaz, a New Adam and a Pillar in the Community 25:46 Caring for Widows and Orphans 28:42 The Role of the Goel in Family and Land 37:29 The Communal Nature of the Harvest 41:32 Engaging in Creative Expression ...
2024-08-17
1h 02
The Color of Dust
15. Femininity, Farming, & Friendship
Where else are you going to hear the book of Ruth—which is an agricultural-themed book—discussed by actual farmers? Only here on The Color of Dust! We make those crucial connections between the land, covenant, and exile, speaking directly to farming, femininity, and friendship. We also explore God’s ‘golden mean,’ which will change the way you perceive your life. Take a look at the chapters below to see the ground we cover and join us for part two of our important series in the book of Ruth. As you’ll see, we are ‘sketching’ our way through Ruth...
2024-08-03
2h 04
The Color of Dust
14. The Moabite Option
The book of Ruth is both a profound love story and a journey of faith. Today we begin our exploration, sharing some art along the way. Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the ground we cover, and devote some time to reading the four chapters of Ruth on your own. We welcome your thoughts, feedback, and questions. Also note that we’re ‘sketching’ our way through Ruth—so feel free to join us!The music for this episode was composed and performed by Jack Baumgartner.**(No goats were harmed during the filming...
2024-07-20
1h 41
The Color of Dust
13. The Power of Drawing
With just a few lines, a wizard can cast a spell and make something appear out of nowhere; in the same way, with just a few lines, an artist can drag his magical ‘wand’ across a piece of paper and make something appear out of nowhere. In today’s episode, we consider the power of drawing—it is both a form of listening and spiritual practice. Seth reads his poem ‘Avocation,’ and we consider the recent story about Maurice Ivor Birch, who spent the last 54 years drawing his hometown on a 100-foot-long roll of paper. We take a look at so...
2024-07-06
1h 35
The Color of Dust
12. Grab Your Tambourine
“Life is always more beautiful when you know the story,” Jack says on today’s episode. Do you know the story of The Color of Dust? Take a look at the chapter headings below to see the territory we cover in this honest episode. We apologize for Sam’s audio—it got corrupted somehow and sounds pretty awful. However, as you’ll learn from the episode, this, too, is a ‘darling’ we need to kill. So, grab your tambourine and let’s get started!(All the music in this episode was written and performed by Jack...
2024-06-22
2h 11
The Color of Dust
11. Forever Tinkering
We begin with an original poem from Seth called “Tell Me, Tell Me, Tell Me, Elm!”. We discuss the idea of forever ‘tinkering’ with artistic creations. This leads to trees, sheep, wind, words, and sight. Jack seeks to give you permission to trust the many ways you perceive, including your imagination. It’s a risk, but it’s real. And perhaps gratitude is the best way to develop the spiritual sensorium. The songs in the episode were written and performed by Jack Baumgartner (“Through the Windy” and “Lift Earth Rise”).Chapters00:00 The Ongoing Creation of Creativi...
2024-06-08
2h 03
The Color of Dust
10. Beyond the Thunderdome
In his book A Secular Age, Charles Taylor says it is as if we now live in a closed-system, in which nothing beyond is able to enter. He calls it the “buffered self.” The trouble is, Jack Baumgartner never got the memo. In this conversation, we begin to explore the concepts of imagination and spiritual sensorium. The invitation is to pay attention and have attuned eyes and ears to the language of life.The music on this episode was written and played by Jack Baumgartner: Through the Windy, Harmonic Banjo, and Desert Ladder. Chap...
2024-05-25
1h 51
The Color of Dust
9. Saint Paul the Hermit
Fauns…Hippocentaurs…Questing Beasts…Oh my! As we turn to the final panel of Matthias Grunewald’s Isenheim Altarpiece, we discover the Church’s first hermit. Saint Paul the Hermit played a significant role in Jack’s own life, especially when Jack himself was a hermit for four years.In this episode, Jack reads to us from The Golden Legend and John Moriarty; Seth teaches the four-part Medieval hermeneutic; and Sam indulges in a rant or two. We had significant technical difficulties—technical warfare?—but we persevered and managed to cobble together a faun, or fun, and meaningful conve...
2024-05-11
1h 54
The Color of Dust
8. The Exorcism of St. Anthony
St. Anthony is depicted on the holymost panel of the Isenheim Altarpiece battling demons. His extraordinary life is a gift not just to those of his time, but to many more future sufferers. Through the spiritual technology of Grunewald's Isenheim, we are invited to witness this other world swirling within our own.We close with a poem by Rilke and a guitar meditation from Jack. This is our third of four episodes on the Isenheim Altarpiece by Matthias Grunewald. One of our goals is to rehabilitate the ancient way of participating in reality through long and steady...
2024-04-27
1h 45
The Color of Dust
7. Everything Belongs
Probably most today believe that science and psychology offer better solutions to our modern problems than a piece of art or literature. But what if we have misdiagnosed our core problems? What if we are too focused on eliminating what does not belong that we fail to see what does belong—and the great story in which we are participating?Having spoken about the outer panels of The Isenheim Altarpiece, we now turn to the inner panels, which depict the mystery of Christ from Annunciation to Ascension—or Alpha to Omega, as Jack says. These exce...
2024-04-13
1h 59
The Color of Dust
6. The Isenheim Effect
Matthias Grunewald was one of the greatest painters ever to live, known for his Isenheim Altarpiece. But you may not know that this masterpiece was created for the most broken people of its time. In this special Good Friday episode, we meditate on the cross as a mirror, in what we’re calling The Isenheim Effect. Also in this episode, we present the poem “April Prelude” by Maya Clubine. Now, here is the Scripture Sam prayed at the beginning to fit this episode: For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympath...
2024-03-29
1h 43
The Color of Dust
5. Below the Belt
In this episode, Jack, Seth, and Sam explore the concept of failure in art and its role in personal growth. They discuss a central image in Jack’s linocut “The Spiritual Mechanics of Labor and Rest,” which features the crotch. The focus is on the wrinkles and the word 'obedience.' They delve into the idea of risk in art and how it can lead to beauty and transcendence. They also examine the role of the artist in embracing failure and taking risks. They touch on the parable of the talents and the importance of reconciliation and love in...
2024-03-16
1h 47
The Color of Dust
4. What Is Art?
There are many treasures in this episode. We start by talking about the symbolism of the candle and then explore the definition of art. We discuss the hierarchy of art, the tension between rarity and commonality of art, the role of novelty, and the differences between theological aesthetics and aesthetic theology. Then we go into the power of different art forms, the process of creating art, and participation in beauty. This leads us to art as a path to God, the impact of art on the viewer, and the role of skill. Then we focus on a p...
2024-03-02
1h 41
The Color of Dust
3. Outside the Darkened Sill
Seth begins by reading his poem “More than a Watchman,” while Jack lulls us with his beautiful banjo. Then we talk about hunger for God’s presence and the role of the watchman. Our focus is on the window in the stomach from Jack’s linocut carving “The Spiritual Mechanics of Labor and Rest.” This gets us into coyotes and hunger, the restless heart, the bowels of emotion, and responding to God’s voice. Jack speaks to the importance of discipline and the concept of genius. We talk about the symbolism of the arch form and the tomb as a window. Then...
2024-02-17
1h 16
The Color of Dust
2. Hearts on Fire
As Jack says, it’s a big deal when your heart’s on fire—and it’s an equally big deal when it is not. In episode 2, Jack, Seth, and Sam focus on the center of Jack’s extraordinary linocut “The Spiritual Mechanics of Labor and Rest.” At the center is the heart on fire. We talk about art and icons of the Northern Renaissance, the intricacy of copper engravings, the difference between the Northern and Italian Renaissance, the transformative power of art, the beauty of engraved lines, the importance of devotional imagery, the struggle of language and communicat...
2024-02-03
1h 18
The Color of Dust
1. The Spiritual Mechanics of Labor and Rest
In our first episode, we talk about Jack's arresting linocut "The Spiritual Mechanics of Labor and Rest." We discuss the meaning behind some of its captivating images. There is a union between what God has made and your deepest self, and you will be encouraged to renew this fundamental relationship. To learn more about this piece of artwork, go to Jack’s website. If you like what you see, please help us get off the ground—consider telling others about The Color of Dust. We have many special topics and guests in the works to inspire you and...
2024-01-20
1h 19
The Pugcast
The Art of the Inimitable Jack Baumgartner
Today the Pugcast welcomes the versatile artist Jack Baumgartner. Jack is a farmer living with his wife and six children outside of Wichita, Kansas. Jack is a musician (the banjo you hear on this episode is Jack), a painter, printmaker, woodworker, furniture maker, and puppeteer. He’s also a thoughtful Christian whose faith is reflected in all of his work. Chris has collected Jack’s work for years. By the end of the show you’ll probably want to too. Find Jack at https://baumwerkshop.com/, https://theschoolofthetransferofenergy.com/, and on Instagram at https://www.instagr...
2023-01-19
1h 16
The Theology Pugcast
The Art of the Inimitable Jack Baumgartner
Today the Pugcast welcomes the versatile artist Jack Baumgartner. Jack is a farmer living with his wife and six children outside of Wichita, Kansas. Jack is a musician (the banjo you hear on this episode is Jack), a painter, printmaker, woodworker, furniture maker, and puppeteer. He’s also a thoughtful Christian whose faith is reflected in all of his work. Chris has collected Jack’s work for years. By the end of the show you’ll probably want to too. Find Jack at https://baumwerkshop.com/, https://theschoolofthetransferofenergy.com/, and on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/baumwe...
2023-01-16
1h 16
Social Geek
Franchise News Podcast 11.18.2020
The Franchise News Podcast for Wednesday, November 18, 2020. In the news this week: National Restaurant Association, Tom Bené Franchise Group Inc Buddy's Home Furnishings, Michael Bennett Bebe Stores Tropical Smoothie Café, Charles Watson Jersey Mike's, Peter Cancro Famous Toastery, Dennis Jackson Papa John's, Rob Lynch Schlotzsky's, #WorkFromHomeLunchUpgrade Brian Baumgartner, #TheOffice #Kevin #Chili Clear Summit Group, Laura Vodvarka Really Franchise Group, Susan Yannaccone Chicken Salad Chick, Marianna Magee, Jon Musser D...
2020-11-18
08 min
Sherringford's Table Talk - A fictional detective podcast
Episode 7 - Halloween Special: Sherlock Holmes and Jack the Ripper
First Halloween Episode at Sheringford's Table Talk, super exciting!The topic: How could Sherlock Holmes hold himself against the most notorious English Serial Killer of all time; Jack the Ripper?What did the Ripper even do? What was going on at that time? What could Holmes have found out?Listen in to hear about that and more!
2020-11-02
00 min