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The Outside ContextThe New Invisible Hand: Machine Learning, Human EarningIn Episode 14 of The Outside Context Elliot Hentov, chief macro policy strategist at State Street Investment Management, discusses the intersection of AI and macroeconomics. He explores the current state of AI's impact on productivity, investment trends, and the implications for inflation and economic growth. The conversation also shifts into the geopolitical competition surrounding AI dominance, particularly between the US and China, and concludes with reflections on future challenges and opportunities presented by AI. Key Takeaways:The impact of AI on productivity is still being assessed.Investment in AI has surged s...
2025-11-2034 min
The Outside ContextBack to the Future: Notes on an Alien EarthIn episode 13 of The Outside Context, Elise and Jannah reflect on their year of podcasting, discussing their experiences and the themes explored in previous episodes. They discuss the TV series 'Alien: Earth', examining it as a social commentary on technology, power and societal structures. The conversation then shifts to the implications of technological advancements, the ethical considerations surrounding them and the potential for inequality. They conclude by identifying AI as a significant ‘outside context’ problem facing civilisation today, while emphasising the importance of critical engagement with technology and its impact on society.Key Takeaways:
2025-10-3048 min
The Outside ContextTeaching the Machine: Conscience and Truth in the Age of AIIn episode 12 of The Outside Context, Haviva Kohl, Senior Program Manager at a Big Tech firm, shares her unique journey from being a sixth-grade teacher to working in tech, through to discussing the implications of AI, disinformation, and the defence of democracy. She emphasises the rapid pace of AI development and its potential impact on jobs and society, while also addressing the challenges of misinformation and the erosion of trust in institutions. The discussion explores the role of big tech in safeguarding democracy and the need for critical thinking and resilience in navigating the information landscape. Ultimately, Haviva expresses...
2025-08-2743 min
The Outside ContextPower, Protocols & Post-Scarcity: Where Venture Capital Goes NextIn episode 11 of The Outside Context, Rob Hadick, General Partner at Dragonfly, shares his journey from Wall Street to venture capital, discussing the evolving landscape of investment, particularly in the realms of blockchain and decentralised finance. He highlights the differences between traditional finance and the emerging tech-driven paradigms, emphasising the importance of networks and the changing role of VCs in a tighter funding environment. The discussion also shifts into geopolitical implications, the future of decentralisation, and the potential shifts in the global economic order, ultimately pondering the long-term future of venture capital in a rapidly changing world.
2025-08-0738 min
The Outside ContextThe Self, Sovereign: Reclaiming Control and the Future of Digital IdentityIn episode 10 of The Outside Context, Seema Khinda Johnson, Co-Founder and COO of Nuggets, shares her journey in the tech industry and discusses the critical importance of digital identity in today's world. She emphasises the need for self-sovereign identity, the business case for digital identity solutions, and the challenges of inclusivity in identity verification and why "data is the new oil". Seema also addresses the potential pitfalls in the digital identity space and the urgency of establishing a robust identity framework to combat the growing authenticity crisis exacerbated by AI.Key takeaways
2025-07-0945 min
The Outside ContextNailing It: Resetting the System for Women in TechIn episode 9 of The Outside Context, Leah Winberg aka Winny, Founder of Chipped Social, shares her unique journey from a childhood passion for fashion to the tech world, culminating in the creation of Chipped, a revolutionary product that integrates NFC technology into fashion. The discussion explores the intersections of art, technology, and finance, emphasising the importance of diversity in tech and the role of women in shaping the future. Winny also addresses the challenges of sustainability in fashion and the potential for technology to influence society positively. The episode concludes with insights into the future of Chipped and the...
2025-06-0435 min
The Outside ContextChange, Capitalism & Cracks in the System: The Shift to Citizen AgencyIn episode 8 of The Outside Context, Carne Ross discusses his journey from being a British diplomat to advocating for self-governance and participatory democracy. He highlights the current challenges facing democracy, including economic inequality and the influence of wealth on political systems. Ross emphasises the importance of technology in enabling democratic participation while also warning of its potential for surveillance and control. He explores the future of governance, suggesting that change must come from the bottom up, and imagines alternative societal models that prioritise human connection and agency.Key TakeawaysCarne Ross' transition from a...
2025-05-0234 min
The Outside ContextCode & Connectivity: Creating the Future Infrastructure for Smart CitiesIn episode 7 of The Outside Context, co-hosts Elise Soucie Watts and Jannah Patchay sit down with Richard Baker, a technologist and futurist with a background in telecommunications and financial services. Richard shares his journey from engineering to finance and discusses the rapid evolution of technology and its impact on society. Together, they explore smart cities, digital identity, the future of data ownership and the integration of a native money system into the internet.Key TakeawaysRichard’s career journey from telecommunications to financeThe rapid adoption of new technologies and the implications for societySmart cities: Wh...
2025-04-0941 min
The Outside ContextHouston, We Have a Moonshot: Perspectives on Private Spaceflight from the Astronaut EntrepreneurIn episode 6 of The Outside Context, our co-hosts Elise Soucie Watts and Jannah Patchay sit down with Per Wimmer—global financier, entrepreneur, adventurer, and astronaut-in-training—to discuss the future of private space travel, space entrepreneurship and humanity’s long-term potential beyond Earth.Per shares his personal journey, from setting a world record by skydiving over Mount Everest to becoming one of the first private astronauts with Virgin Galactic. He discusses the economic impact of private space investment, technological innovations driven by space exploration and the role of space in inspiring future generations.Key Topics...
2025-03-1945 min
The Outside ContextSpace Invaders: The Ethics of Multiplanetary Exploration & ExpansionIn episode 5 of The Outside Context, we welcome astrophysicist, space ethicist, and author Erika Nesvold to discuss the ethical questions surrounding space exploration and settlement. Inspired by her book Off Earth, this conversation delves into the challenges of governance, labour rights, environmental protection, and the role of private industry in space.Key Topics DiscussedErika’s Journey – From astrophysics to space ethics and video game development.Ethical Considerations in Space Settlement – Lessons from Earth’s colonial past and how they apply to space.Labour Rights & Exploitation Risks – How historical labour abuses in...
2025-02-2642 min
The Outside ContextMarch of the Machines: AI, the Machine Economy, and the Future of InvestingIn episode 4 of The Outside Context, hosts Elise Soucie Watts and Jannah Patchay sit down with Lex Sokolin, co-founder of Generative Ventures, to explore the convergence of crypto, artificial intelligence, and financial technology. Lex shares his journey from early fintech ventures to leading DeFi initiatives at ConsenSys and launching a venture fund focused on the evolving machine economy.The conversation touches on the rise of AI agents, the future of Web3, financial engineering, and the broader societal impact of automation and tokenized economies. Lex provides a forward-looking...
2025-02-1243 min
The Outside ContextAI Origins & Futures: The Good The Bad & The RoboticIn episode 3 of The Outside Context, Jannah and Elise sit down with Daniel Hulme, CEO and Founder of Satalia. As an OG of AI, Daniel shares unpacks what we really mean by 'artificial intelligence', the origins of AI and how it has evolved over the years. Together with the co-hosts they explore the real risks and challenges that AI poses, as well as what the a positive AI future means for civilisation and humanity.They take a deep dive into the impacts of AI through the PESTLE framework (Political, Economic, Social, Technological
2025-01-2946 min
The Outside ContextBeam Me Up, Securely: The Expanding Horizons of Space Policy & SecurityIn episode 2 of The Outside Context, Jannah and Elise speak to Juliana Suess, an associate with the Strategic Threat Analysis and Nuclear Disorder team within the International Security Team at the German Institute for International Security Affairs.Jannah and Elise ask Juliana to explain more about her work on space security and what its implications are for society. They discuss where space sits in the geopolitical landscape, who are the main players vying for control of space and what are their various motivations. In the episode the also dive into the balance is being struck b...
2024-12-1846 min
The Outside ContextIn the Orbit of Innovation: The Next Frontier of Digital MoneyIn episode 1 of The Outside Context, Jannah and Elise sit down with Dante Disparte, Chief Strategy Officer and Head of Global Policy at Circle. Dante shares his journey into the digital assets world from Puerto Rico, to Richard Branson's Island, to the new shores of digital money. Together with the co-hosts they do a deep dive into the future of digital money and how its broader economic impacts may change civilisation as we know it.They cover how decentralised models might challenge the dominance of sovereign fiat currencies and central banks and the potential broader economic consequences...
2024-12-0444 min
The Outside ContextTrailer: The Outside ContextA brand new podcast from Jannah Patchay & Elise Soucie Watts on the future of technology & civilisation. Listen to get to know the hosts, find out what inspired The Outside Context, & find out what kind of guests they will be having on the show as well as the topics it will analyse.Message us and tell us what you think of this episode, or share your ideas for future episodes - we’d love to hear from you! Sponsored by Unblocked & Markets Evolution© 2024 The Outside Context. All rights reserved.
2024-11-2618 min
The GageEpisode 27 - Predicting the Unpredictable: The Evolution of Digital CurrencyIn this episode of The Gage, Sean Kiernan was joined by Jannah Patchay, an Executive Director of the Digital Pound Foundation, the industry-wide organisation advocating for a well-designed digital Pound. Their conversation delved into the intricacies of public and private money, the evolution of currency, and the potential impact of digital currencies on businesses and citizens. The episode provides a deep dive into the future of digital currencies and potential future paths for the UK's financial system, highlighting the need for careful consideration and forward-thinking regulation in this field.
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2024-05-1430 min
The Policy LayerEp. 27: Global Blockchain Trade Associations and 2024 Policy (Part 2)This is the second episode from our “trade associations” miniseries for 2024. We are joined by Sandra Ro (Global Blockchain Business Council), Ian Taylor (KPMG and Crypto UK), Alison Mangiero (Proof of Stake Alliance), and Jannah Patchay (Digital Pound Foundation) discussing key blockchain developments, policy updates, and interesting use cases.
2024-04-1032 min
PoundcastStablecoins and the future of financeIn this episode of Poundcast, host Jannah Patchay is joined by Ramy Soliman, Policy Lead and Co-Founder of Stablecoin Standard and President at GMO Trust - a New York regulated stablecoin issuer, as he discusses his journey into the world of stablecoins and his interest in the space. Ramy shares his experience working in the foreign exchange and prime brokerage industry before being drawn to the transformative potential of stablecoins
2023-11-0236 min
PoundcastExploring the Potential of Digital Assets in Wholesale MarketsIn this episode of Poundcast, Jannah Patchay speaks with Duncan Trenholme, Managing Director and Global Co-Head of Digital Assets at TP ICAP. They discuss why TP ICAP became interested in digital assets for wholesale markets and the potential barriers to mass adoption. Duncan shares insights on settlement, wholesale central bank digital currencies, and the transformative power of blockchain and distributed ledger technology in financial markets.
2023-10-0533 min
The Policy LayerEp 16: Why Do We Need a Digital Pound?Dive into the world of Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) Jannah Patchay (Digital Pound Foundation and Markets Evolution), Varun Paul (Fireblocks), and moderator Emma Pike (H+K Strategies). This episode focuses on the UK's Digital Pound, exploring its potential to transform financial transactions, savings, and investments. We'll examine what sets the Digital Pound apart from traditional money and other digital currencies, its requirements for success, and lessons from other CBDCs. Join us for an enlightening discussion, whether you're a crypto expert or just curious about the evolving landscape of money.Find out more in our explainers at...
2023-09-2153 min
The Policy LayerEp 13: Mirror on the wall, what does the CBDC future hold?Join Russell Klein and a panel of experts in a captivating discussion on Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) in our latest Owl Explains podcast episode. Mai Santamaria (Department of Finance, Ireland), Jannah Patchay (Digital Pound Foundation), and Varun Paul (Fireblocks) dissect the potential impact of CBDCs on modern finance. Discover the implications, risks, and revolutionary prospects of digital currencies as we delve into whether they're a necessity in our increasingly digital world. Tune in for an insightful journey into the evolving realm of digital finance and CBDCs. Find out more in our explainers at owlexplains.com
2023-09-0127 min
PoundcastInnovating Britain: The Future of Fintech and Digital CurrenciesPlease note this episode was recorded before the Electronic Trade Document bill gained its royal assent.
In episode 10, Poundcast’s host Jannah Patchay is having a conversation with Lord Chris Holmes of Richmond MBE regarding the UK's leading role in the areas of innovation, fintech, and the emerging digital economy. They discuss recent changes in UK legislation that impact the industry, as well as the most significant use cases for digital currencies. Together they explore ways to address public concerns and ensure that the rollout of CBDC involves the widest possible public discourse and engagement.
2023-07-2630 min
Digital Bytes by Team Blockchain Radio; Powered By Cyber.FMPolicy drivers for a retail CBDC - Jannah Patchay Executive Director and Policy Lead at the Digital Pound Foundation (DPF) with Jonny Fry and James TyleeAs a digital form of central bank-issued fiat currency, central bank digital currencies (CBDCs) have seen an explosive growth in interest over the past four years with each jurisdiction having its own unique blend of policy drivers and motivations. This article explores a few of the key policy drivers for the introduction of a retail CBDC (in the UK, specifically), which, when extrapolated more broadly, can also apply generally to other jurisdictions seeking similar policy outcomes.
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2023-07-1223 min
Digital Bytes by Team Blockchain Radio; Powered By Cyber.FMDigital Bytes June 28th Edition with Jonny Fry / James Tylee featuring Jannah Patchay Executive Director and Policy Lead at the Digital Pound Foundation (DPF)The role of blockchain in modernising stock markets - the way in which financial organisations and private clients buy and sell stocks and shares has evolved over the years, from open outcry to electronic dealing. Once again, the infrastructure for stock markets is set to potentially be transformed as a direct result of blockchain technology. The promise is to make stock markets transparent, faster, more efficient and safer by automating many of the current processes and procedures.
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Lessons learnt from the collapse of SVB - In a flurry of events precipitating from sev...
2023-07-1248 min
The Zumo PodcastCBDCs & The Future of Money | The Zumo Podcast, Jannah PatchayJannah Patchay is an Executive Director and Policy Lead at The Digital Pound Foundation. In this episode, Jannah discusses CBDCs (Central Bank Digital Currencies) & The Future of Money with Amélie Arras, the Marketing Director at Zumo. They discuss what a well-designed Digital Pound would look like, the benefits of CBDCs and the role they play in building more sustainable financial systems.
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2023-06-1531 min
PoundcastThe Nature of Money - The Role of Currency in the Digital EraIn episode 9, our host Jannah Patchay speaks to Kene Ezeji-Okoye, Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Millicent Labs. In this episode, Jannah and Kene discuss the rise of digital currencies in the context of digital fiat, how central banks reacted to the advent of stablecoins and in particular the potential threat posed by Facebook's Libra / Diem project, how commercial bank money functions today, and what citizens gain from the advancement of CBDCs not only here in the United Kingdom, but on a global scale.
2023-06-0829 min
PoundcastThe Making of a Digital Pound: exploring the creation of a UK CBDCIn this episode, Jannah Patchay, Policy Lead at the Digital Pound Foundation is in conversation with Varun Paul, Central Bank Digital Currency and Market Infrastructure Director of Fireblocks. They discuss private sector objections to retail Central Bank Digital Currency - how does the recent Bank of England and HM Treasury consultation address these as regards the UK? They also look at non-interest bearing - and its limits - how will this address concerns of outflows from commercial bank deposits. They also ask how will a digital Pound support private sector innovation and how might such a currency be designed?
2023-03-0127 min
PoundcastWhy Does An Economist Care About CBDCs?In episode 6, our host Jannah Patchay, Policy Lead and one of the originating members of the Digital Pound Foundation, speaks to James Pomeroy, Global Economist at HSBC. In a time where many regions around the world are increasingly moving away from cash, Central Bank Digital Currencies can offer people similar levels of privacy and accessibility, however, there’s often a misconception that governments and central banks will use the technology to oversee and control what people can spend their money on. In this podcast, James explains why such an overreach by governments and central banks is highly unlikely, and on th...
2023-02-2233 min
PoundcastDigital Currencies: Undoing the Internet's Original SinIn episode 5, Jannah Patchay, Policy Lead and one of the originating members of the Digital Pound Foundation, speaks to Nick Philpott, COO of Zodia Markets. In this episode, Jannah and Nick discuss how digital currencies could help undo “the internet’s original sin”, explore his experiences with the Libra project and talk about how the stablecoin landscape has developed from a policy / regulatory perspective, as well as examining the top wholesale use cases for stablecoins.
2023-01-2438 min
PoundcastStablecoins - policy and regulatory challengesIn this episode, our host Jannah Patchay, policy lead and one of the originating members of the Digital Pound Foundation, interviews Teana Baker-Taylor, Vice President, Policy & Regulatory Strategy, UK/EU at Circle, on stablecoins and the policy and regulatory challenges they present, as well as how they relate to Central Bank Digital Currencies. How should new forms of digital money be regulated and what are different jurisdictions doing to address issues surrounding market conduct. And last but not least what are the prospects for a digital Pound, perhaps in the form of a privately-issued stablecoin?
2022-12-1435 min
PoundcastTransformative Potential: Digital Money in Wholesale MarketsIn episode 3, our host Jannah Patchay, Policy Lead and originating member of the Digital Pound Foundation, speaks to Olaf Ransome, founder of 3C Advisory and also known as The Banker’s Plumber. In this interview, we turn our attention to the applications of new forms of digital money in wholesale markets. As we'll see, the potential of digital currencies to improve settlement times has massive implications for liquidity and funding across the financial system.
In the digital asset space there are new exchanges or execution venues and new custody solutions. Settlement processes also need a means of payment. The...
2022-11-0338 min
PoundcastRegulated Liabilities and the Future of Digital MoneyIn this episode, host Jannah Patchay, Policy Lead and one of the originating members of the Digital Pound Foundation speaks to Tony McLaughlin, Managing Director of Emerging Payments and Business Development at Citi.
Jannah and Tony have a wide-ranging discussion on what would make a digital Pound a foundation for innovation and what attributes it should have. How do concepts like fungibility and interoperability support an ecosystem of digital Pounds? Regulated liabilities – what are they? What are different types of money? As well as Tony’s thoughts on stablecoins and the latest industry developments around them.
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2022-09-0542 min
PoundcastDigital Currencies and the Future of MoneyIn episode 1, podcast host Jannah Patchay, Policy Lead and one of the originating members of the Digital Pound Foundation is in conversation with Lee McNabb, Payments Strategy Lead at NatWest.
In this introductory episode, Jannah and Lee discuss some of the key questions often asked about digital currency such as: what is a digital currency? How does it differ from the money we have today? And what's the difference between digital currency and cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin? What can we do with digital currencies that we can't do today And what impact might digital currencies have on our financial sy...
2022-06-2134 min
Digital Euro PodcastEpisode 23: Fungibility and Interoperability of CBDC
In this episode, Valentin Seehausen talks with Jannah Patchay about the fungibility and interoperability of CBDC.
Jannah works for the Digital Pound Foundation and is specialized in financial markets innovation, and in helping firms to define, develop and execute their commercial strategies in a highly regulated environment. Her passion lies in building the capital markets of the future, harnessing emerging technology to create new and innovative financial services and products that can promote wider social benefit and greater access to financial services.
2022-05-1136 min
Financial Markets insightsCentral Bank Digital Currency - what is it and how will it affect us as citizens and consumers?In this episode, we speak to Jannah Patchay, an Originating Member of the Digital Pound Foundation about why the UK might need a digital pound, what is a central bank digital currency (CBDC), and what are its benefits - as well as its possible risks - for us as consumers and citizens.
2022-03-1733 min
Financial Markets insightsThe IKEA EffectIn episode 8, podcast host Jannah Patchay speaks to Peter Lawrey, CEO of Chronicle Software, about the IKEA effect - a fascinating phenomenon whereby consumers place a (sometimes disproportionately) higher value on things that they have either made themselves, or to which they have contributed towards making. They’ll be discussing how this relates to trading technology and asking how the IKEA effect could translate into building great trading applications.
2021-11-1535 min
Financial Markets insightsCBDC and the Future of Wholesale PaymentsCentral bank digital currencies (CBDCs) are undoubtedly a hot topic. Not a week goes by without news from at least one central bank of their latest plans for tests, pilots, and live trials. In the UK, Rishi Sunak's announcement on 19th April this year of a joint HMT-Bank of England taskforce to "coordinate exploratory work on a potential central bank digital currency", has led to a range of reactions from the media: excitement, bewilderment, confusion, a misguided perception that the UK is about to create its own cryptocurrency, and a heartfelt plea of "could someone please explain what this all...
2021-08-1839 min
Money BoxGoogle’s investment ad crackdownGoogle is cracking down on financial-scam adverts in the UK, but will it work? Campaigner Mark Taber tells us what needs to be done to stem the millions of pounds lost to bogus investment schemes each year. It was reported this week that the financial regulator has banned one of the biggest crypto currency exchanges from operating in the UK. Jannah Patchay, founder of Markets Evolution, and Jason Deane – a consultant for Luno, explain why those reports were wrong. Park Christmas Savings, one of the UK’s most popular savings clubs says it will review its...
2021-07-0329 min
Financial Markets insightsThe Spectacular rise of the SPACSPACs or Special Purpose Acquisition Companies have been around for many years but recently they have started garnering major attention as well-known investors leading SPACs have been raising record amounts of money. Some analysts worry the SPAC boom is one of multiple signs of a market bubble. So why exactly have SPACs become such a hot trend and will this boom within a boom really benefit investors or is it all just hype?
In Episode 3, we explain what a SPAC is, look at why they are on the rise, examine some of the pros and cons and asks...
2021-05-0430 min
Crypto CastEverything You Need to Know About Central Bank Digital CurrenciesThis week, James is joined by Jannah Patchay, director of Markets Evolution, a financial innovation and market structure consultancy, as well as being a member of the Whitechapel Think Tank, which recently produced a paper entitled "The Impact of Digital Currency on the Future of Payments", looking at the case for and design considerations around a UK CBDC. Jannah shares with James all things CBDC. What is a CBDC, what can you do with a CBDC that can't be done now, will we see CBDC's become ubiquitous in many countries, and how will CBDCs fit into a wide spectrum o...
2021-04-0616 min
Financial Markets insightsGamestop: lessons for financial marketsIn January 2021, a videogames company few people had ever heard of made history for one of the largest share price increases in stock market history. Apart from making headlines around the world, the GameStop story - and how it played out - has thrown up some key questions about the future of financial markets infrastructure. How did it happen and why?
Episode 2, brought to you by The Realization Group, examines the Gamestop phenomenon in depth. Host Jannah Patchay interviews financial services and technology lawyer, Lee Schneider, to ask him what this situation means for the future of financial...
2021-04-0136 min
MoneyNext TVBlockchain Summit l The DeFi Difference: How will Decentralised or Open Finance Continue to DisruptThis episode is part of the Blockchain Summit podcast series and looks at The DeFi Difference - How Decentralised or Open Finance Will Continue to Disrupt.
Featuring: Michele Curtoni of State Street, Jannah Patchay of London Blockchain Foundation, Mariana Gomez de la Villa of ING, Lex Sokolin of ConsenSys, Kate Baucherel of Galia Digital and being hosted by Mark Johnstone of MoneyNext.
2021-03-1049 min
Wicked Problems PodcastDigital Assests, Digital Currencies, Central Banks, and Facebook’s Libra with Jannah PatchayWelcome to another edition of Wicked Problems. Jannah Patchay is a subject matter expert and consultant in the financial markets sector who specialises in financial markets innovation, and helping firms define, develop and execute commercial strategies in a highly regulated environment. Her passion is for market structure and finding creative solutions to the challenges surrounding access to markets and liquidity for both traditional financial markets and asset classes, and the emerging field of digital asset market structure and regulation – the subject of today’s show. Jannah has assisted in the launch of new trading venues, busi...
2020-05-2739 min