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The Saved for Later PodcastChurch Hurt? Power Plays? Here’s What a Real Pastor Should Look LikeSend us a textWhat should a real pastor look like?In this episode, I sit down with my own pastor, Jared Verwiel of Tulsa Bible Church, to cut through the spiritual posturing and power games that infect far too many pulpits. We talk real ministry — not performance, not personality cults, and definitely not spiritual manipulation. Just biblical shepherding.This conversation isn’t theory. It’s raw insight from someone in the trenches — and a reminder that not every church is a circus. Some pastors still preach the Word and carry the weight of souls...
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Hidden God36. Sexuality & Gender, Pt. 5: Image of GodGenesis 1.26-27 is one of the most foundational verses in Scripture to understand God's design for the creation of humankind. Unlike the voices in our secular culture, God's Truth establishes a firm unity, yet distinction between male and female. Join Jared and Daniel for the final episode of Season 3 on Hidden God!
2021-06-1632 minHidden God35: Sexuality & Gender, Pt. 4: Gender DysphoriaGender Dysphoria is a crippling mental illness now labeled by the Diagnostics and Statistics Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). It has become closely associated with the "Transgender Craze," which is spreading rapidly and specifically with teenage girls. In this episode, Daniel and Jared rely heavily on a book entitled, Irresistible Damage by Abigail Shrier. We hope this helps you understand the troubling aspects of social media as it's related to Gender Dysphoria.
2021-06-0336 minHidden God34. Sexuality & Gender, Pt. 3Have you ever heard of Critical Theory? What about Conflict Theory or Karl Marx? Recently, our colleges and universities have passed hard into Critical Theory and several fields of study that have grown out of it including the topic of this episode: Queer Theory. Join Jared and Daniel as we explain about Queer Hermeneutics and where it came from.
2021-05-3031 minHidden God33. Sexuality & Gender, Pt. 2Last year Carl Trueman published a landmark resource on today's culture called, The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self. He devotes an entire chapter to Sigmund Freud's influence toward the sexual revolution. In this episode, we provide historical background to Freud's debilitating view of one's sexual identity before looking at a broad perspective of homosexuality in the Bible. Enjoy!
2021-04-2344 minHidden God32. Sexuality & Gender, Pt. 1Our culture is witnessing rapid changes in the midst of an ongoing Sexual Revolution. Statistics and trends associated with new sexual orientations are nothing shy of startling. Join Jared and Daniel in this episode as we discuss sexual orientation, the sex culture itself, and the history/philosophy associated with these things.
2021-04-0732 minHidden God31. Interpretations of the ResurrectionToday the historicity of the resurrection is basically denied. Modern interpretations do not believe it was an historical event as much as an experience for the disciples or a myth. However, it hasn't always been this way through church history. Join Jared and Daniel for a special episode as we discuss modern and post-modern approaches to the resurrection and how the Truth is actually historical.
2021-03-2524 minHidden God30. Pornography & WomenTypically, we think of addictions and struggles with pornography solely as a male issue. In reality, pornography is greatly affecting women as well. In this episode, we asked two women to join us and discuss this difficult topic: Mady Boultinghouse, director of TulsaBible Kids, and Linda Cosgrove, leader over women's discipleship at Tulsa Bible Church. We hope this helps you and your family deal with a sensitive topic.
2021-03-1643 minHidden God29. Pornography & MenIn this episode we continue to discuss the all too common sexual sin of lust and specifically the dangers of pornography. For Christian men the statistics of those who are addicted to pornography are startling. We want to address this issue and hopefully provide some counsel. Join Jared and Daniel as they tackle the male struggle with pornography.
2021-03-0535 minHidden God28. History of PornographyThe sex industry rivals any other in America in terms of money-generating and entertainment. However, few people realize when pornography started and how it came to dominate in a country once laden with moral structures and Judeo-Christian roots. How did pornography become so popular? When did it become so accessible? Answering these questions can equip us to defend our families from the damaging effects of pornography. Join Jared and Daniel as they explore a history of pornography in America.
2021-02-2539 minHidden God27. Addictions, Pt. 2Samson had an addiction problem. Solomon had an addiction problem. The rich young ruler had an addiction problem. Addictions are found throughout the Scriptures, and the reason they are such big issues is because they are all sin issues. Join Daniel and Jared as they continue for Season 3 of Hidden God with Addictions, Pt. 2.
2021-01-2036 minHidden God26. Addictions: How do they work?Welcome to Hidden God's first episode of season 3! We are excited to bring you relevant topics this season as we explore the world of addictions, pornography, sexuality, and gender. In this episode, Daniel and Jared will define addictions and begin to explain why they are so prevalent in our culture. As always we will turn to Scripture for answers and understanding. Enjoy!
2021-01-1331 minHidden God25. Top Reads in 2020Join us for Hidden God's season 2 finale! Daniel and Jared discuss their favorite books read in 2020.
2021-01-0434 minHidden God24. Difficulties in MinistryThe best of pastors will tell you, "Ministry is tough!" Every day pastors face the hardship of leading their congregations and the realities of their own sin. In this episode of Hidden God we welcome a long time friend and pastor, Steve Shorrock as he helps us discuss difficulties of ministry.
2020-12-1732 minHidden God23. Culture Crisis, Pt. 6: TransformWe've considered models on how to engage the culture, church history regarding this topic, and looked at passages of Scripture. The question still remains: What's the best way for the church in America to be about transforming our culture with the Gospel. Join Jared and Daniel as they conclude this series on Cultural Crisis by looking briefly at the life of Christ.
2020-11-2031 minHidden God22. Culture Crisis, Pt. 5: EngageGod has always had a mission to reach the world with His Truth and reconcile sinful man to His presence. His mission didn't start in Matt 28.18-20. Instead, it goes all the way back to Gen 1.26-31. Nevertheless, the practical application of God's mission has shifted from the OT to the NT. No Scripture shows the difference quite like Acts 17.16-31. Join Jared and Daniel as they continue their series, "Culture Crisis."
2020-11-1231 minHidden God21. Cultural Crisis, Pt. 4: Contextualizing the GospelJoin Jared and Daniel as they continue the series, Cultural Crisis. In this episode we introduce the concept of contextualization. Our main question is: How can the church teach about sin, when we live in a culture that no longer recognizes nor understands that term? Even the definition of "good" is now subjective to postmodern listeners, making it almost impossible to communicate the reality of sin.
2020-11-0627 minHidden God20. Casting a Vision (featuring Mady Boultinghouse)How do visions start? Why is it so important to have a vision? How do you know if your organization is changing too quickly? This week Hidden God welcomes Tulsa Bible Church Children's Director, Mady Boultinghouse, for a discussion on vision. We look at Nehemiah 1 and explore how his vision started as the Israelites rebuilt the walls around Jerusalem. Enjoy.
2020-11-0226 minHidden God19. Cultural Crisis, Pt. 3: Defining CultureEngaging the culture is one of the hardest battles fought in churches today. How do we engage? Aren't we risking our testimony and holiness? How should we engage and to what extent can we engage without adapting worldly influences? Several models of cultural engagement have been knowingly or unknowingly used to reach and/or transform the culture with the Truth of the Gospel. Join Jared and Daniel as they continue in part 3 of their most recent series, Cultural Crisis.
2020-10-2135 minHidden God18. Cultural Crisis, Pt. 2: ModelsAs we discuss cultural issues and how the church can effectively engage the culture, it's helpful to provide a framework for discussion. In this episode, Daniel and Jared follow the works of Richard Niebuhr, Christ and Culture, as well as Tim Keller, Center Church, and give an overview of how the church has engaged the culture through history.
2020-10-0936 minHidden God17. Cultural CrisisWhat are the most difficult issues facing the church today? Are they theological issues regarding doctrine and understanding Scripture? Are they church government issues of structure? Maybe they're political issues! You might be surprised, but we don't believe any of those are the most concerning issues in today's local churches. The issue we have identified is, in some sense, underneath all of them. Join us this week as we discuss one of the most pervasive issues in churches today.
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Tulsa Bible Church: Sermons1. Same Ole, Same Ole: Eccl 1.1-11"Solomon, Solomon...why are you so depressed?!" Ecclesiastes is one of the wisdom books of the Bible that is hard to grasp. Join TBC and Pastor Jared Verwiel as he introduces this enigmatic book. Apart from Christ, nothing has meaning; But with Christ, everything does!
2020-09-2343 minHidden God16. Christianity in the WorkplaceMartin Luther was the famous Reformer who taught the priesthood of all believers. He thought that the milkman and the blue collar worker were just as much priests as were the church clergy; therefore, they had just as important job of representing Christ! How do we effectively evangelize in the workplace? What can we do to be a better witness of the Gospel in an increasingly secular culture? Join Daniel and Jared as well as their first guest, KC Boultinghouse, in this episode of Hidden God.
2020-09-2334 minHidden GodSeason 2; Ep1: Value of VulnerabilityWelcome to season 2 of Hidden God! One of the hot button items in our culture is transparency and vulnerability. The next generation values this item because they value authenticity. Even though it seems simple enough to focus on being transparent, it's not easy for leaders, pastors, or other people in high profile positions. Why do we prefer to stay hidden, when there seems to be a high value on vulnerability?
2020-09-1730 minHidden God#14: Dialogues with CS Lewis, Pt. 7; "Nice People or New Men"Join Jared and Daniel for their season 1 finale! In this episode we finish our discussion through Mere Christianity. Season 2 Coming Soon!
2020-08-2038 minHidden God#14: Dialogues with CS Lewis, Pt. 6 "Is Christianity Hard or Easy?"When Jesus said, "If anyone wishes to follow after me, he must deny himself, take up his cross daily, and follow me," he was asking for complete surrender. Yet, Matthew 11.28, "Come to me all who are weary and heavy laden and I will give you rest," doesn't communicate surrender in the same way. How do we reconcile the surrender aspect of discipleship with the free gift of salvation? Join Jared and Daniel as we talk about the costs of following Christ.
2020-08-1338 minHidden God#13: Dialogues with CS Lewis, Pt. 5 "Three Parts of Morality"Christianity and morality...are they the same? Are they different? If Christianity is distinct from morality, how? In a day when most young people who grow up in the church confusing the Gospel with morality, CS Lewis offered a distinction. Join Jared and Daniel as they discuss morality and the Gospel by continuing the conversation through Mere Christianity.
2020-07-2338 minHidden God#12: Dialogues with CS Lewis, Pt. 4 "The Great Sin"Pride...ugh....everyone has it! The more we see pride in others, the more we dislike it in ourselves. Lewis calls God the complete anti-God state of mind. The one good element of pride is that God can use it to draw us to Himself! Join Jared and Daniel as they discuss pride in one of Lewis' most well-known chapters in Mere Christianity. The sin beneath every other sin is a spiritual cancer and simply affects everyone.
2020-07-1632 minHidden God#11(Edited): Dialogues with CS Lewis, Pt. 3, The Shocking AlternativeWhat is sin? How should we define it? What about free will? If God knew that man's free will would lead us to sin, why did he create us in the first place? Join Jared and Daniel as they continue in Book 2 of Lewis' classic, Mere Christianity.
Perhaps no other section in Mere Christianity addresses issues of the Gospel and the doctrine of Christ like Book 2. Our hope is to show how Lewis explains the truth of the Gospel in a pluralistic, post-modern world.
2020-07-1336 minHidden God#10: Dialogues with CS Lewis, Pt. 2: The InvasionCS Lewis' classic, Mere Christianity, continues to have a life-changing impact on the world. In this episode, they turn to Lewis to challenge the modern concept of Dualism. Join Jared and Daniel as they discuss the limitations of Dualism and how Christianity is distinct!
2020-06-2733 minHidden God#9: Dialogues with CS Lewis; Pt 1: God's GoodnessCS Lewis has made a profound impact on Christianity as an apologist, writer, and philosopher. In this series, Daniel and Jared dialogue through some of Lewis' strongest arguments in Mere Christianity. Is there really a divine standard for morality? How can we know? Where does the natural law lead us as we attempt to discover the goodness of God? What does God's goodness teach us about ourselves?
2020-06-1246 minHidden God#8: Race & GospelAlmost 99 years removed from the infamous Tulsa Race Riots, and our nation faces another "racial" issue. How do we respond to the murder of George Floyd? How can we be more missional rather than fighting racism with racism? Join Daniel and Jared as we talk about the insufficient solutions to a sin problem that goes back to Genesis 3 and 4.
2020-06-0537 minHidden God#7: Church SplitsUnfortunately, local churches are not immune from the devastation of church splits. In fact, it's likely more common for churches to experience a split than otherwise. Join Jared and Daniel as we attempt to tackle a somber issue from a big picture, panoramic view of God's glory. Despite man's best attempts to destroy God's church, the Wonderful Counselor will use the worst of circumstances to create beauty from ashes.
2020-05-2239 minHidden God#6: Theology of the Cross, Pt. 4In this episode, Daniel and Jared wrap up their discussion on Martin Luther's, "Theology of the Cross." Q: How does God particularly make Himself known to people? A: Through suffering. The spiritual dynamics of suffering go much deeper than the pat-answers we are accustomed to hearing. God will certainly use suffering for good, but He didn't originally create man or creation to suffer. Suffering was a result of the Fall. Nonetheless, Scripture affirms that God takes what Satan meant for evil and turns it for our good. Enjoy this final episode on Luther's Theology of the Cross.
2020-05-1734 minHidden God#5: Theology of the Cross, Pt. 3Gotta have faith...faith...faith! Have faith in your faith, right? The topic of faith is as interesting as it is vital for our spiritual growth. Join Daniel and Jared as they explore more of Luther's, "Theology of the Cross," and the biblical concept of faith.
2020-05-0737 minHidden God#4: Theology of the Cross, Pt. 2In this episode Daniel and Jared continue their discussion on Martin Luther's, "Theology of the Cross." Isaiah 45.15 says, "Surely you (the LORD) are a God who hides himself." How is it possible that God both reveals and hides Himself at the same time? This apparent contradiction is one of the Bible's greatest paradoxes. You'll be surprised to see it fleshed out from the Garden to New Creation.
2020-05-0342 minHidden God#3: Theology of the Cross, Pt. 1"I know God because of my personal experience last Saturday night." "Yes, but I know God because of His Word." "Both of you are crazy, I know God because of nature and His creation." How exactly has God revealed Himself? How can we know for sure whether God has really spoken to us or we just ate some bad pizza that is stirring our gut?
Jared and Daniel continue to explore Martin Luther's, "Theology of the Cross." In this episode, we focus Luther's understanding of God's revelation; Namely, that God has revealed Himself and the task of t...
2020-04-2740 minHidden God#2: Theology of the Cross IntroductionJoin Jared and Daniel as they introduce Tulsa Bible Church's brand new podcast. Episode 2 discusses Martin Luther's, "Theology of the Cross" with five summary statements that get to the heart of what Luther originally presented in the 1518 Heidelberg Disputation.
2020-04-1832 minHidden GodTrial Episode: Theology of HopeJoin Jared, Daniel, and special guest Steve Schott as we discuss a biblical understanding of HOPE.
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