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Factually! with Adam ConoverWill A.I. Slop Replace the Internet? with Jason KoeblerA.I. slop is competing for space all across the web, and it’s starting to edge out actual human creators. The internet, once rife with possibility, is rapidly turning into a depressing wasteland of mind numbing garbage. Despite the massive volume of brain-waste being sludged out every day, there are still some brilliant human minds trying to turn the tides of the battle. 404media is a worker-owned tech journalism outlet, and they use their real human minds to investigate and report on stories—everything from surveillance, to AI, to cyber security, to hacking, to sex. Joining Adam today is J...
2025-09-241h 27
Daily Tech News ShowMeta is testing AI use in technical interviews - DTNSB 5070Apple is closing one of its stores in China for the first time, and Tom’s getting the new Elgato Facecam 4k with 49mm lens support.Starring Jason Howell, Tom Merritt, and Jason Koebler.Links to stories discussed in this episode can be found here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2025-07-2928 min
Remap RadioSports! (Feat: 404 Media’s Jason Koebler)Folks, the Chicago Cubs are really good right now. Which is why we had to invite 404 Media's Jason Koebler on to talk about how much it sucks to be a fan of his team, the disappointing Baltimore Orioles. In the first half of the podcast, though, we talk about 404 Media’s excellent reporting on tech’s takeover of politics, the rise of Silicon Valley on the right, the newfound obsession over the R-word in those circles, and, eventually, if the pitch clock was a good idea.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Noti...
2025-07-291h 46
kill switchhow to make money from fake AI videosHave you seen Shrimp Jesus? What about the Hollywood sign burning? It probably feels random, but it’s not. There are real people behind AI Slop, and there’s real money to be made. Dexter talks to Jason Koebler from 404 Media who’s been tracking AI slop since its beginnings, and they compare notes to try to figure out where the money is coming from. Got something you’re curious about? Hit us up killswitch@kaleidoscope.nyc, or @dexdigi on IG or Bluesky. Read + watch: Jason’s article, Facebook's Shrimp Jesus, Explained Dexter’s...
2025-05-0745 min
Lock and CodeThe AI chatbot cop squad is here (feat. Emanuel Maiberg and Jason Koebler)“Heidi” is a 36-year-old, San Francisco-born, divorced activist who is lonely, outspoken, and active on social media. “Jason” is a shy, bilingual teenager whose parents immigrated from Ecuador who likes anime, gaming, comic books, and hiking.Neither of them is real. Both are supposed to fight crime.Heidi and Jason are examples of “AI personas” that are being pitched by the company Massive Blue for its lead product, Overwatch. Already in use at police departments across the United States, Overwatch can allegedly help with the identification, investigation, and arrest of criminal suspects.Understanding exactly how...
2025-05-0446 min
On the MediaTrump’s Executive Order on Public Media Is Here. Plus, the Murdoch’s Real Succession DramaTo mark his first hundred days in office, President Trump signed three executive orders related to immigration. On this week’s On the Media, the powerful database that can help I.C.E. track down and deport people. Plus, the dramatic fight for power over Rupert Murdoch’s media empire.[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone talks with Jason Koebler, co-founder of 404 Media, about how a surveillance company is supplying ICE with a powerful database to identify and deport people with minor infractions or certain characteristics.[20:57] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Jason Leopold, a senior investigative reporter at Bloo...
2025-05-0350 min
The Nation PodcastsHow Brainrot AI is Upending the Internet w/ Jason Koebler | Tech Won't Save UsOn this episode of Tech Won't Save Us, Paris Marx is joined by Jason Koebler to discuss the economy behind AI slop generation, how people are building businesses on AI-generated images, and the wider consequences of their proliferation on social media. Jason Koebler is a cofounder of 404 Media and cohost of the 404 Media Podcast.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
2025-05-0153 min
Tech Won't Save UsHow Brainrot AI is Upending the Internet w/ Jason KoeblerParis Marx is joined by Jason Koebler to discuss the economy behind AI slop generation, how people are building businesses on AI-generated images, and the wider consequences of their proliferation on social media. Jason Koebler is a cofounder of 404 Media and cohost of the 404 Media Podcast.Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Er...
2025-05-0153 min
TRASHFUTURE*PREVIEW* Disparagement Clause ft. Jason Koebler404 Media’s Jason Koebler joins us to discuss the hot new book Careless People by Sarah Wynn-Williams, where a senior Facebook executive confirms, very gratifyingly, that all the worst things we knew about Facebook were - in fact - true and on purpose. Including what a horrible place it is to work, and what sociopathic freaks Zuckerberg and Sandberg are.
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*NATE ALERT* Lions Led By Donkeys is performing live in London on Friday, 11th April! Get...
2025-04-1110 min
System CrashWhat Meta Wants From Donald Trump ft. Jason KoeblerJason Koebler joins the show to chat with Paris and Brian about the looming TikTok ban (that got even less likely after we recorded) and what Mark Zuckerberg is really looking for from the Trump administration. Plus, the new Free the Feeds initiative, John Deere in the FTC’s crosshairs, and more bad AI news.Mentioned this week:Jason Koebler is a cofounder of 404 Media and cohost of the 404 Media Podcast.Paris wrote about Mark Zuckerberg’s embrace of the MAGA movement in Disconnect.Jason wrote about what Mark Zuckerberg is looking for from Donald Trump.Meta...
2025-01-171h 01
Where It All StartsMeta’s MAGA MomentMeta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced Tuesday that the company plans to end its fact-checking program as part of a broader overhaul of how it moderates content on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. In a video, Zuckerberg said the move was an effort to prioritize "free expression" and called the 2024 election a "cultural tipping point." It was a notable policy shift ahead of President-elect Donald Trump's inauguration in a little more than week. Jason Koebler, co-founder of the tech website 404 Media, breaks down why the tech elites are sucking up to Trump.And in headlines: U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon temporarily...
2025-01-0821 min
What A DayMeta’s MAGA MomentMeta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced Tuesday that the company plans to end its fact-checking program as part of a broader overhaul of how it moderates content on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. In a video, Zuckerberg said the move was an effort to prioritize "free expression" and called the 2024 election a "cultural tipping point." It was a notable policy shift ahead of President-elect Donald Trump's inauguration in a little more than week. Jason Koebler, co-founder of the tech website 404 Media, breaks down why the tech elites are sucking up to Trump.And in headlines: U.S. District Judge...
2025-01-0821 minTRASHFUTUREI’m Dave Toaster feat. Jason KoeblerMust we live in a world where everyone decides we want AI-generated friends to make AI-generated stories (which are fake), or AI-enabled kitchen appliances? When you actually dig into this stuff, it turns out everyone knows it sucks and we hate it. Today’s guest is friend of the show Jason Koebler of 404 Media, who has done the legwork to examine just how stupid it is. Plus, we talk about Elon Musk’s new fixation on the UK, and that strangely sexual, AI-generated video of anthropomorphic animal cops that [Neil Kinnock voice] the Labour Party published?
Check out...
2025-01-0759 min
Better OfflineWatching the Watchmen with Jason KoeblerIn this episode, Ed Zitron is joined by 404 Media's Jason Koebler to talk about the state of both the tech industry and the tech media, and how 404 Media has built a worker-owned outlet that genuinely works. Follow Jason: https://www.404media.co/ https://x.com/jason_koebler https://bsky.app/profile/jasonkoebler.bsky.social --- LINKS: https://www.tinyurl.com/betterofflinelinks Newsletter: https://www.wheresyoured.at/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/BetterOffline/ Discord: chat.wheresyoured.at Ed's Socials: https://twitter.c...
2024-12-1858 min
Wenbin Fang's Podcast PlaylistHow to build your own media company - without VCs or billionaires Podcast: Channels with Peter Kafka (LS 54 · TOP 0.5% what is this?)Episode: How to build your own media company - without VCs or billionairesPub date: 2024-11-27Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationLots of people start media companies using money from rich people. Jason Koebler and his colleagues did it themselves, using a grand total of $4,000. That was back in the summer of 2023. Now 404 Media, the tech news + investigations site they started after leaving Vice Media, is a success story. Koebler tells us how the...
2024-11-2754 min
Channels with Peter KafkaHow to build your own media company - without VCs or billionairesLots of people start media companies using money from rich people. Jason Koebler and his colleagues did it themselves, using a grand total of $4,000. That was back in the summer of 2023. Now 404 Media, the tech news + investigations site they started after leaving Vice Media, is a success story. Koebler tells us how they started, how it’s going, and what he’d like to do next. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
2024-11-2750 min
Dot SocialHow Decentralization Benefits Publishers, with 404 Media’s Jason Koebler and ProPublica’s Ben WerdmullerIt’s tough being a media outlet these days. Audiences are fractured, referrals from search engines are dropping, and publishers are at the mercy of algorithms they don’t control.Savvy journalists at forward-thinking newsrooms are not letting this happen to them. Instead, they’re doing the work that arguably has been most critical all along: building direct connections with their audiences. It’s common to do this through email lists and subscription models, but the open social web offers a new, more equitable ecosystem for quality journalism to thrive. Two people on the frontlines of this mo...
2024-10-1652 min
The Atlas Obscura PodcastThe Day the Tractors Stood StillIn May 2024, tractors across the American Midwest stalled. But that was only the first piece of a much larger story. Journalist Jason Koebler takes us to Nebraska and Illinois to find out what is going on with American tractors – and what Ukrainian hackers have to do with it. Read more of Jason’s reporting on John Deere and the Right to Repair movement.
2024-09-1118 minTRASHFUTUREYour Own Personal Biden ft. Jason Koebler404 Media’s Jason Koebler returns to discuss AI in the classroom, Balaji’s private island/supervillain lair, and the growing deluge of AI generated slop by US political campaigns. Not so much in the form of deepfakes or Midjourney memes on social media, but rather by making a larger tidal wave of more personalised spam. Also, we discuss a hot new startup that’s ruffling a lot of feathers on K Street in Washington using artificial intelligence, and (more importantly) artificial names.
Check out 404 Media here! https://www.404media.co/
If you want access to our Pa...
2024-09-0359 min
The Worst of All Possible WorldsINTERVIEW: Jason Koebler on the origins of Shrimp JesusJason Koebler is a co-founder and editor of 404 Media. Throughout 2024 Jason has been reporting on Facebook and how it’s become overrun with uncanny AI content, and last month he figured out where it’s all coming from. This morning Josh sat down with Jason to learn more about his reporting, and over the course of 40 minutes they talked about the degradation of Facebook and how it may be a sign of things to come for the rest of the internet.
Read more from Jason:
Where Facebook's AI Slop Comes From
Facebook’s AI Spam Isn’t the ‘D...
2024-09-0243 min
Ten Thousand PostsThe Big Slop: Part 1 ft. Jason KoeblerWelcome to part one of ‘Slop Week’, where we try to understand the incentives that have led to the internet being filled with incomprehensible, aimless content, and how it’s reshaping the way people communicate online.
Jason Koebler, co-founder of 404 Media and the host of the 404 Media podcast, joins us to talk about his recent investigation into junk AI on Facebook, and the the Indian Youtube influencers making online courses teaching people how to make slop around the clock. Jason explains how the creation of AI Slop is much more calculated and structured than we would otherwise think...
2024-08-271h 10
Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMUGenerative AI and the "cesspool internet" – with Jason Koebler from Jul 15, 2024
Generative AI and the "cesspool internet" – with Jason Koebler
Tomaš Dvořák - "Game Boy Tune"
- "Mark's intro"
- "Interview with Jason Koebler" [0:03:50]
- "Mark's comments" [0:42:22]
- "AI ripoff songs" [0:54:38]
https://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/142018
2024-07-1600 min
Sixteenth Minute (of Fame)minisode: ai art, and why we are not robots feat jason koeblerThis week, a bonus interview from our 65-foot-hot-dog episode — 404 Media’s Jason Koebler talks to Jamie about how we need to remind people that writers aren’t robots. Then, Jamie reminds you she is not a robot. Listen to the 404 Media Podcast here: https://www.404media.co/the-404-media-podcast/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
2024-07-0933 minTech Won't Save UsFacebook Is the Zombie Internet w/ Jason KoeblerParis Marx is joined by Jason Koebler to discuss the AI-generated spam filling Facebook, how the platform seems to have given up trying to stop it, and where the internet goes from here.Jason Koebler is the co-host of the 404 Media Podcast.Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by...
2024-07-041h 01
The Nation PodcastsFacebook Is the Zombie Internet w/ Jason Koebler | Tech Won't Save UsOn this episode of Tech Won't Save Us, Paris Marx is joined by Jason Koebler, co-host of the 404 Media Podcast, to discuss the AI-generated spam filling Facebook, how the platform seems to have given up trying to stop it, and where the internet goes from here.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
2024-07-041h 01TRASHFUTUREShrimp Jesus the Redeemer feat. Jason KoeblerThe cast joins guest Jason Koebler of 404 Media to discuss the recent downward spiral of Facebook, a platform currently being destroyed by AI and a total lack of content moderation that cannot admit the causes of its crisis because it, too, is dumping money into AI. And yet it is among the notionally most valuable companies on earth. But don’t worry—if you die, your account can be hacked and used to post spam bot comments on the worst art you’ve ever seen.
Check out Jason’s work at 404 Media here: https://www.404media.co/author/j...
2024-05-291h 03
The Engadget PodcastWhy pay $10 a month to get away from Google search?Google has gone from being the go-to search engine to something people are paying to avoid entirely. This week, Cherlynn and Devindra chat with 404 Media co-founder Jason Koebler about his experience moving away from Google and towards Kagi, a $10 a month search engine without ads or data tracking. Funny enough, Kagi is still relying on Google’s index, so it’s a lot like using that site before the onslaught of ads, sponsored posts and AI results. Also, we discuss the company’s lies around Chrome’s incognito mode, as well as the news that it would be deleting user dat...
2024-04-051h 06Techtonic with Mark Hurst | WFMUJason Koebler, from 404 Media, on cameras from a banned Chinese company from Jan 8, 2024
Jason Koebler, from 404 Media, on surveillance cams from a banned Chinese company
Tomaš Dvořák - "Game Boy Tune"
- "Mark's intro"
- "Interview with Jason Koebler" [0:05:03]
- "Mark's comments" [0:42:26]
Why Bother? - "Eyes Everywhere" [thanks to Wendy from Wreck Your Own Adventure!] [0:53:23]
https://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/135663
2024-01-0900 min
The InsurgentsEp. 231: Violating ChatGPT's TOS ft. Jason KoeblerThis is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.insurgentspod.comJason Koebler, co-founder of 404 Media, joins us to explain what Google Researchers discovered when they asked ChatGPT to repeat the same word forever. What may seem like a simple request, revealed some alarming information about what ChatGPT is trained on, the risks with broad scraping practices and more. We explore th…
2023-12-0603 minTech Won't Save UsReporting Critically on Tech w/ Jason Koebler & Samantha ColeParis Marx is joined by Jason Koebler and Samantha Cole to discuss why they launched 404 Media, how it was inspired by their work at Motherboard, and their reflections on the state of tech media. Jason Koebler and Samantha Cole are co-founders of 404 Media. Jason was editor-in-chief of VICE’s Motherboard. Samantha was a senior editor at Motherboard and is the author of “How Sex Changed the Internet.” Find out more about 404 Media.Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand be...
2023-08-311h 08
CYBERThe Jason Koebler Exit Interview, Part TwoIt’s part two of our bittersweet episode of Cyber where we bid farewell to Motherboard editor-in-chief Jason Koebler. This week we do a deep dive into the Motherboard lore. The stories that broke us, the controversies that made us who we are. Come find out which popular web comic wrote a strip about us that’s aged like milk, how much horse shit you can buy for $10 in Bitcoin, why the director of Gran Turismo: Based on a True Story hates Motherboard, and why you should never bowl with someone who has ebola.Vox Something Or O...
2023-08-251h 10
The 404 Media PodcastWelcome to 404 MediaWelcome to 404 Media! On this special introductory episode, 404 Media co-founders Joseph Cox, Sam Cole, Emanuel Maiberg, and Jason Koebler explain what's in store for this new, journalist-founded media outlet. After the break, Joseph and Jason break down how violent criminals have managed to gain access to a supply chain of data that lets them dox nearly anyone in America. Most of the country likely has no idea their data is collected and sold this way, and certainly don't know that criminals now have access too.Subscribe to 404 Media at 404media.co to gain a...
2023-08-2236 minCYBERRare Motherboard Lore and a Goodbye to Jason KoeblerIt’s a bittersweet episode of Cyber as we bid farewell to Motherboard editor-in-chief Jason Koebler. It’s a long episode so we’ve split it into two parts. This week you get some discussions about the topics of the day including Planet of Bass, Oliver Anthony, and the vibes-based economy. After that we start dishing all of Motherboard’s secrets, including how Jason came to work there and what it’s like to walk out of a meeting with 8 missed calls from Disney on your phone.Next week we’re talking about a webcomic, comments sections, an...
2023-08-181h 18
What’s The Buzz Popcast®The Matrix-Mandela Paradox
CREDIT GIVEN TO: JASON KOEBLER FOR THE PAINSTAKING WORK PUT INTO HIS ARTICLE (USED BY FAIR USE)
Is CERN Causing Collective Mass Delusion by Creating Portals to Alternate Dimensions? An Investigation
The Mandela Effect is real, but no one knows what causes it. CERN would like you to know it’s not their particle collider.
By Jason Koebler
Cynthia Sue Larson has been on the lookout since July 5, when CERN turned the world’s most powerful particle collider back on for a third time. Larson is looking for “realit...
2023-05-091h 18
VICE News ReportsMotherboard Money: A New Podcast from VICEWhen it comes to the AI revolution, you’ll hear a lot of fear around the robots taking our jobs. In this episode of Vice News Reports, we’re airing a new show called Motherboard Money where editor-in-chief Jason Koebler and senior reporter Maxwell Strachan talk about how ‘overemployed’ workers are using artificial intelligence tools like ChatGPT to juggle multiple, full-time, salaried jobs and rake in the cash.Motherboard Money is hosted by Jason Koebler. It’s produced by Sophie Kazis, Sheena Ozaki, and Julia Nutter, and edited by Ashley Cleek. Fact checking by Sophie Hurwitz.Mus...
2023-04-2726 min
KPFA - UpFrontIsrael’s latest attack on Gaza killed 49; Facebook data used by police to prosecute Nebraska teenager who sought an abortionPete
On today’s show:
0:08 – Rashid Khalidi, Edward Said Professor of Modern Arab Studies at Columbia University discusses Israel’s latest attack in Gaza, which killed 47.
0:33 – An annual report by the Annie E. Casey Foundation found that California ranks in the bottom third of state in terms of child well-being. Kelly Hardy (@kellyahardy), Senior Managing Director for Health & Research projects at Children Now joins us to discuss.
0:45 – Adrienne Shilton, Director of Public Policy at California Alliance of Child and Family Services discusses AB 2317, which would allow the state to e...
2022-08-111h 59CYBERHacking, War, and Cyberwar in Ukraine - the LatestJoseph Cox and Jason Koebler discuss various website defacements, leaks, and hacks associated with Russia's war in Ukraine. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2022-03-0135 minCYBERHow Open Source Intelligence Is Debunking Russian Propaganda in UkraineThe internet has created an explosion in audio and video captured from the frontlines of war zones. As Russia escalates the conflict in Ukraine, it’s also pushing propaganda harder than ever. But there’s so much information available online, and so many people willing to call bullshit on propaganda, that it’s hard to make a believable video that justifies a war these days.That hasn’t stopped Russia from trying.On today’s episode of Cyber, Motherboard journalist Matthew Gault sits down with Motherboard editor-in-chief Jason Koebler to discuss the community of people...
2022-02-2338 minCYBERPiracy Will Never DiePopcorn time, a place where millions of people gathered everyday to watch low-res streams of their favorite films, is dead.Or is it? According to Motherboard Editor-in-Chief Jason Koebler, rumors of the demise of the Netflix of Piracy have been greatly exaggerated. According to Jason, Popcorn time is likely unkillable.It’s the first Cyber back after the holiday break and there’s a lot to talk about. After Jason and Matthew run through a brief history of pirating things online, they turn their attention to Call of Duty. Activision has revealed the iden...
2022-01-0745 minCYBERWhat Apple’s New Repair Store Means for the Right-to-RepairApple recently announced a plan to sell customers manuals and parts that will let them fix their own iPhone 12s and 13s. It’s a huge win for the right to repair, but what are the specifics of the plan and what does it mean for the future of the repair movement in America?This week on Cyber, Matthew Gault and Motherboard editor-in-chief Jason Koebler sat down with heavyweights of the right-to-repair movement to answer that question. This conversation between iFixit CEO Kyle Wiens, Repair.org’s Gay Gordon-Byrne, and U.S. PIRG’s Nathan Proctor covers...
2021-11-1857 min
This Machine Kills113. MetastaticMetastasis is the process of cancer cells spreading to other parts of the body. Facebook is in its full on metastatic phase. We talk about the big news of Facebook rebranding as Meta – its impotent propaganda campaign, the extractive economy underpinning this vision of society, why the metaverse as its pitched is bullshit, and how the actual metaverse is more likely to be an infinite virtual office we’re all forced to used.
Some stuff we reference:
••• Facebook Has No Clue How to Solve Its Image Problem, Leaked Doc Shows | Shoshana Wodinksy https://gizmodo.com/facebook-has-no-clue-how-to-solve-its-image-problem-le-1847945657
••• The Real Reason Facebook Changed Its Name...
2021-11-031h 07CYBERMotherboard Does Dune: Eugenics and Race (with Hood Feminism author Mikki Kendall)BONUS SERIES: Dune is out! And it's the biggest movie in America. In this special series, Motherboard and friends dissect all things Dune. In this episode, we look at how Frank Herbert approaches eugenics and race in the book series, and how Denis Villeneuve handles it in the blockbuster movie. This episode features: Hood Feminism author Mikki Kendall, Edward Ongweso Jr., Gita Jackson, Jason Koebler, Brian Merchant, and Tim Marchman. Note to CYBER listeners: We're doing this series in addition to our normal CYBER episodes, which will still be released this week. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com...
2021-10-271h 06
What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the futureI Bought It. Why Can't I Fix It?Whether it’s a phone screen or a coffee machine, why is it so hard to fix our own stuff? And what can we do to make it a bit easier?Guest: Jason Koebler, editor-in-chief of Motherboard and contributor to the CYBER podcastHostLizzie O’Leary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
2021-07-3019 min
VICE News Reports“Find this Fuck”: Inside the Citizen AppThe Citizen app is advertised as a public safety tool: a place where people can connect, inform, and “protect one another” from local crime. But VICE News’ Motherboard got a hold of internal documents and messages that show how Citizen is pushing the boundaries of what an app-enabled vigilante force may be capable of. This episode was reported by Joseph Cox and Jason Koebler of VICE News’ Motherboard, and produced by Adreanna Rodriguez. Read more of their reporting here. VICE News Reports is hosted by Arielle Duhaime-Ross and produced by Jesse Alejandro Cottrell, Sophie Kaz...
2021-06-2442 min
Out of the Drying Pan: A Pokémon the Series PodcastEp 4: Then Came the StormPokémon the Series: The Beginning episodes covered: 110 - Bulbasaur and the Hidden Village 111 - Charmander - The Stray Pokémon & 112 - Here Comes the Squirtle Squad ; The article we briefly discussed is "I Need to Explain to You Just How Dire America's Pokémon Card Crisis Is" by Jason Koebler published on Vice.com on 4/30/2021.Email: outofthedryingpan@gmail.comTwitter: @OutOfDryingPan
2021-06-181h 54
This Machine KillsPatreon Preview - 75. Here’s to the Pigs(Jathan's mic is busted for this episode – sorry!) We hit y’all with a double header about what happens when the cop in our mind is allowed to thrive. First is the psychodrama and that led to a successful member of the liberal professoriate to become a cop just to sate her curiosity and stick it to her mom. Second is the entrepreneurs who prey on the social anxiety and paranoia to whip people into frenzy as a way to sell their technologies of private policing.
Some stuff we reference:
The Professor Who Became a Cop | Patrick Blanchfield: newrepublic.com/arti...
2021-06-0507 min
Fake, Untitled PodcastFake, Untitled Podcast: Episode 42 - Life, The Universe And Everything ᵀʰᵃᵗ ᵂᵉⁿᵗ ᵂʳᵒⁿᵍ ᴵⁿ ᵂᵃᶜᵒ, ᵀᵉˣᵃˢhttps://www.subscribestar.com/thatfakeguydan
Back with Craig, reminding you to contact your reps and tell them not to let David Chipman near power because he is a monster. We're also talking about good news, bad news, tech and politics! Specifics on bioprinting, government oversight, the Columbia pipeline situation, regulation, recalls, Jan 6, Israel and China.
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2021-05-312h 02
Out of the Drying Pan: A Pokémon the Series PodcastEp 4: Then Came the StormPokémon The Series: The Beginning episodes covered: 110 - Bulbasaur and the Hidden Village 111 - Charmander - The Stray Pokémon 112 - Here Comes the Squirtle Squad The article we briefly discussed is "I Need to Explain to You Just How Dire America's Pokémon Card Crisis Is" by Jason Koebler published on Vice.com on 4/30/2021.
2021-05-291h 54
VICE News ReportsThe Great Pokémon CrisisThe hottest investment right now isn’t cryptocurrency or NFTs, it’s Pokémon cards. The pandemic collectibles boom has skyrocketed Pokemon card prices, with individual cards selling for hundreds of thousands of dollars and people swarming retail stores to get their hands on new cards. Editor-in-Chief of Motherboard and Pokemon aficionado Jason Koebler takes us through a deep dive of the resurgence of everyone’s favorite cuddly pocket monsters. Everyone is looking to catch’em all one more time, and Jason is no exception. This episode was produced by Sam Eagan. VICE N...
2021-05-2731 min
This Machine Kills68. Fight for Your Right (to Repair)We give y’all a primer on the debates about the “right to repair.” Corporations and conservative think tankers love spouting bad faith arguments that frame the right to repair as an issue of innovation, property, and nationalism. But their lobbying against it really boils down to running interference in favor of ongoing expansions of rentier capitalism and digital enclosure, all while trying to resolve the dual crises of overproduction and underconsumption.
Some stuff we reference:
• ‘Right to Repair’ Is Bad for Your Health | Tom Giovanetti: wsj.com/articles/right-to-repair-is-bad-for-your-health-11619986159
• Right to Repair Roundup: One Step Forward, One to the Side | Jerri-L...
2021-05-131h 11
Enter the Rabbit HoleE is for EsperantoWant to learn a language, but also you straight up suck at languages? No problem! Want to couch surf with randos from around the globe? We've got you covered! Want to develop your linguistic learning capabilities and try out the newest hipster craze, all while promoting the ultimate goal of world peace? Sounds like you're the "perfekta kandidato" for the lingua franca of tomorrow (maybe): Esperanto!
Sources:
Articles:
https://zamenhof.info/en/biografio
Foreign Language Training (US Department of State website)
https://www.sta...
2021-05-041h 28
Wild Wild TechReddit vs. Hedgefund Billionaires: The Full Gamestop StoryGamestop, Robinhood, Hedge funds, Reddit; there's a good chance you've been hearing these terms being thrown around, but what exactly is going on? This week, Jordan and Joshua break down the timeline events of that made Gamestop stock soar and make redditors millionaires overnight. Journalist and writer for VICE MOTHERBOARD Matthew Gault simplifies how the stock market works, what "shorting" is, the major conflicted interest with Robinhood's involvement, and how savvy redditors banded together and created this frenzy. Fellow MOTHERBOARD writer and GME investor Jason Koebler, who wrote his own explainer of the entire situation, discusses why Robinhood appealed...
2021-02-1744 minCYBERWhat the Hell is Happening with GameStop's Stock?It’s a mixture of Internet trolling, Reddit threads, the fall of capitalism as we know it, and that movie Big Short. If like me you have but a cursory understanding of the stock market and you continually see mention of this GameStop fiasco making headlines the world over. That’s right: A failing video game store has been turned into a multibillion dollar company, by day-trading cartels who live on the Internet. Motherboard EIC Jason Koebler, who knows something about stocks, is on the show to explain more. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more infor...
2021-01-2838 minCYBERThe Social Media War After the Attempted CoupParler. Gab. The President being suspended from almost every mainstream social media entity and finally prevented from engaging in his favorite addiction: Tweeting. Besides the horned Qanon shaman and the disgusting violence on Capitol Hill last week, it has been a hell of a week for social media. Motherboard EIC Jason Koebler and I break it all down for you on today’s episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2021-01-1437 minCYBER2020: The Year of Cyber NightmaresLet’s be honest, I know history types keep saying that like the year 536 was way worse than 2020, but I do not care. 2020 was unadulterated trash by almost every metric available. In the cyber world it was also a year that helped advance insidious surveillance tools, the proliferation of disinformation, and more Russian hackers. Jason Koebler, Motherboard EIC, is on the show for the last time in 2020. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2020-12-3139 min
Conspiracy You Can Believe InEpisode 8: Planned ObsolescenceDo you ever wonder why you have to replace a perfectly good smartphone after a software update? Do things in your home seem to fall apart before their time? Was your grandpa right when he said "They just don't make 'em like the used to?"
If you think that somewhere, someone is making some of the products you buy wear out on purpose, you're not crazy. They are. It's called planned obsolescence.
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The Waste Makers by Vance Packard
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/250912.The_Waste_Makers
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2020-12-2336 min
UnderunderstoodClosing the Loop on China's Mystery SeedsWhat ever happened with those mysterious seeds that were showing up in U.S. mailboxes? 00:33 - Michigan Department of Agriculture tweet 03:10 - USDA answers frequently asked questions about the mystery seeds, including “What should I do if I already planted the seeds?” 02:30 - Facebook post from the Michigan Department of Agriculture and Rural Development 03:52 - Invasive species are no joke!!!! 04:50 - As of this writing, Snopes said there was no motive determined for the seed shipments: Are Americans Receiving Unsolicited Mailings of Seeds from China? (Snopes) 09:32 - USDA still hasn’t found anything to cause major concern, but it has...
2020-11-2443 minCYBERThe Election of DisinformationWhat is going on? Why is it going on? Is this actually real? Disinformation in the election was always going to be a thing, and well, it was. Today on Cyber, Ben Makuch and Jason Koebler discuss the state of play and why we're here, Iranian hackers, and mass conspiracies on twitter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2020-11-0522 min
Waypoint RadioHades SpoilercastWe've had a wave of Hades fever here at Waypoint Radio, so much so that we're doing a spoilercast! Supergiant Games has used their knack for evocative narrative, killer third person isometric action, and beautiful art and design in a roguelite package that has pulled everyone from our most hardcore roguelike players to people who've never touched the genre. Join Austin, Patrick, Gita, Cado, and special guest Jason Koebler as we dive deep into what makes Hades want to delve the depths of the underworld again and again. We have mechanical spoilers throughout, and story spoilers start after the break...
2020-10-092h 12
Nights & Weekends#12 - So TiredNovelist Steve Erickson shares a reading of On Fear, recently published at Journal of the Plague Year. After that, Lee Pacchia talks with Jason Koebler, Editor In Chief at Motherboard, about his story examining thousands of reported incidents of Americans receiving unsolicited packages of seeds from China. Finally, attorney Elizabeth Savage talks about the wildfires in Oregon.
2020-09-2440 min
Making It Up128: Parenting as gardening and Silicon Valley on tech mediaCharis and Eugene discuss the modern approach to parenting and misunderstandings of childhood. They also talk about Silicon Valley’s attitude towards tech media as well as the issue of privacy in digital conversations.
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Meet the parenting expert who thinks parenting is a terrible invention by Irene Caselli and Lynn Berger
Silicon Valley Elite Discuss Journalists Having Too Much Power in Private App by Jason Koebler, Anna Merlan, and Joseph Cox
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2020-07-1945 minCYBERThe Hacker Who's Hacking Ventilators to Save LivesIt’s a tale as old as our digital era: Tech enthusiasts wanting to repair their devices without the authorization of the company that makes them. Apple, for example, is notoriously awful at allowing users access to easy fixes of iPhones or Macbooks and instead offers expensive options with one of its “geniuses.” And like everything in our society, the current pandemic has exposed these right to repairs practises for what they are: Ridiculous. Our Motherboard EIC Jason Koebler is here to tell us about a Polish hacker who is saving ventilators. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy...
2020-07-1645 minCYBERHow Governments Might Use Coronavirus to Chip Away At Our PrivacyYes, friends, this week’s CYBER podcast was recorded from the comfort of our apartments. Because, well, the global pandemic. Today on the show, we thought it would be important to discuss how coronavirus will affect state and corporate surveillance. Yes, because, like 9/11 and the quick enactment of the Patriot Act, there is already evidence of a boom for the spy industry. One company is advertising tech that leverages video surveillance software it says can spot people who have a fever, while the Israeli government has already given Shin Bet (its internal police agency) access to sec...
2020-03-1924 minCYBERThis Small Company Has Turned Utah Into a Surveillance PanopticonIt’s cliche to say it, but it’s true, we’re living in a frighteningly similar world to George Orwell’s 1984. Where it’s not just people that are spies, but everything can be a spy. And people are making money off of it to fuel this Big Brother world. It’s a panopticon of mass surveillance and here at Motherboard, Jason Koebler and Emanuel Maiberg broke the news of yet another company hawking its dystopian services. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2020-03-1243 min
Axios Re:CapSharing Your DataA new report from VICE’s Motherboard found that JumpShot, a subsidiary of antivirus company Avast, has been collecting and selling user data and browsing history. Dan and Motherboard editorial director Jason Koebler discuss the granularity of the data being sold, and what this means for users.
Plus: The U.K. allows a controversial Chinese company to build its 5G network and the ERA gets closer to the constitution.
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2020-01-2809 min
The Perpetual Growth PodcastThe Perpetual Growth Podcast - Episode #16Long-time friend Jason Wahlberg joined us to talk business, mindset, growth and 2020 goals!
2020-01-0839 minCYBERTrolls, Hackers, Spies: The Cyber DecadeIt occurred to us at Motherboard that for this final episode of CYBER in the 2010s we could recount the year in stories that we’ve done. The real scoops, traffic hogs, and think pieces. But then again, this is the decade that changed infosec. This was the decade that made hackers critical players on the world stage, our personal digital information sacred, and our political systems fixed into some strange, social media hellscape. Since its founding in 2009, Motherboard has seen it all with you.So on this episode of CYBER, our dear editor-in-chief Jason Koebler...
2019-12-2646 minThe Perpetual Growth PodcastThe Perpetual Growth Podcast - Episode #10Jason Hays joined us and gave us a fresh perspective.
2019-11-1231 min
CYBERWhat Happens When a US Border Protection Contractor Gets Hacked?On this week’s episode of CYBER, Joseph Cox and Motherboard EIC Jason Koebler discuss the breach of a Customs and Border Protection contractor that exposed pictures of drivers in Pennsylvania, and the implications for the future of data retention. This story comes on the cusp of groundbreaking attempts by the CBP to use facial recognition software along the border and collecting visitors social media information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2019-06-1325 min
Building TomorrowFree Speech Online: UnfriendedOver the past several years, conservative complaints about social media bias have grown. Some conservatives allege that platforms like Facebook, Google, and Twitter have tweaked their algorithms in ways that effectively downgrade conservative content or that they have “shadow-banned” conservative voices. In this episode, Paul and Will are joined by Zach Graves and Ryan Radia, both from the Lincoln Network, to discuss to what extent these allegations are legitimate and to weigh subsequent calls for government regulation.Is news structurally biased? How do conservatives and liberals respond differently to their content being censored online? Is Face...
2019-05-3048 min
The VICE Guide to Right NowBig Tech Doesn't Want You To Be Able To Fix Your ThingsOn this episode, producer Sophie Kazis speaks with Motherboard’s Editor-in-Chief Jason Koebler about his longtime reporting on the Right to Repair Movement, and why it’s important to break up Big Tech’s stronghold on repairing broken products.
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2019-05-2200 min
Waypoint RadioWaypoints 30: Teens and MemesThis week, Rob, Danielle, and Patrick welcome Motherboard's Jason Koebler discuss the strange and somewhat hard-to-credit tale of a young teenage boy who was lured into the alt-right via online communities, and how his mother helped him escape. It touches on the nature of online radicalization, the way young white kids can recast themselves as a persecuted class, and how that process can be stopped. Then, Danielle explains the wonder that is the Jason X plot, and Rob has read an essay on how the most common tools for teaching and learning may also be some of the worst.
2019-05-161h 31
The VICE Guide to Right NowUnderstanding Julian AssangeOn this episode, we’re talking about Julian Assange’s recent arrest, and sifting through all the news swirling around it with Motherboard Editor-In-Chief Jason Koebler and Motherboard reporter Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai.
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2019-04-1700 min
Working PeopleLucy LloydWe talk with Lucy Lloyd, a self-taught Apple product repair and support technician living in Sedan, Minnesota, a town with a population of less than fifty people. We talk about everything from growing up in a small town to setting up her independent repair business in the corner of her mom’s flower shop. We also talk a lot about the right to repair, a really important political issue that directly impacts repair workers like Lucy and all of us who use, consume, and depend on technologies from cars to smart phones. Additional links/info below...
2019-04-061h 23
Science FridayRight-To-Repair, Exercise Recovery, Gov. Inslee. April 5, 2019, Part 2Whenever your smartphone or video game console breaks down, you usually have to go back to the manufacture or a technician affiliated with the company to have your device fixed. Oftentimes, companies don’t release parts or guides to their devices, making it difficult to repair them own your own. 20 different states have introduced right-to-repair legislation, which calls for companies to open up the ability for individuals to fix their own devices. Recently, senator Elizabeth Warren called for a national right-to-repair law for farming equipment made by John Deere and other agricultural manufacturers. Jason Koebler from Motherboard and agricultural la...
2019-04-0547 min
The VICE Guide to Right NowMotherboard Reports: Facebook Bans White Nationalism and White SeparatismOn this episode, VICE Podcast Producer Sophie Kazis speaks with Motherboard Editor-in-Chief Jason Koebler and Motherboard reporter Joseph Cox about Facebook’s new policy change to treat white nationalism and separatism the same as white supremacy.
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2019-04-0300 min
CYBERHow Hackers Break into iCloud-Locked iPhonesIn spring, 2017, a teenager walked up behind a woman leaving the Metro in Northeast Washington DC and put her in a chokehold: "Be quiet," he said. And "delete your iCloud." He grabbed her iPhone 6S and ran away.The iCloud security feature has cut down on the number of iPhones that have been stolen, but enterprising criminals have found ways to remove iCloud in order to resell devices. To do this, they phish the phone’s original owners, or scam employees at Apple Stores. Thieves, coders, and hackers participate in an underground industry designed to remove a...
2019-02-1927 min
CYBERI Gave a Bounty Hunter $300. Then He Located Our PhoneEarlier this month, Motherboard sent $300 to a bounty hunter. Within moments, he sent us a Google Maps screenshot with the real-time location data of a phone that we'd asked him to track. Motherboard editor-in-chief Jason Koebler and senior staff writer Joseph Cox go deep on the shady—but legal—market of data aggregators and brokers who sell smartphone location data to bounty hunters, bail bondsmen, landlords, used car salesmen, and anyone who can afford it.We learn how bounty hunters go right up to the edge of what the law allows and use "neurolinguistic mind manipulation" to g...
2019-01-2442 min
Daily Tech News ShowEscape from Planet Facebook - DTNS 3433Motherboard's Jason Koebler writes a piece suggesting that Facebook be replaced with personal website. Is this simple act the only real alternative to Facebook or is it an too good to be true fix to a very complicated problem? For information regarding your data privacy, visit
2018-12-2000 min
CYBERThe Motherboard Guide to Not Getting HackedIn the coming weeks, millions of people will get new phones, computers, Amazon Echos, Google Homes, Smart Coffee Makers, and other internet of things devices. All of these things come with their own privacy, surveillance, and hacking risks, but there are steps you can take to minimize your exposure. So we thought it’d be a good time to talk about the Motherboard Guide to Not Getting Hacked, our comprehensive advice on digital security.We’ve released a new version of it every year for the last three years, adding and changing things as hacking threats and...
2018-12-1738 min
The VICE Guide to Right NowThanks to Motherboard, Facebook Is Reviewing its Policy on White NationalismIn this episode, we talk to Motherboard Editor-in-Chief Jason Koebler about his investigation into Facebook's content moderation policies, which has now led the company to review it’s specific policy on white nationalism.
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2018-09-2100 min
Escape From Plan AEp. 40: Sarah Jeong Is A White Liberal ShieldCondemnation and defense of Sarah Jeong has fallen along the familiar fault lines of online culture. She has been portrayed as either a Pol Pot against white people or a Joan of Arc against racist and sexist trolls. But what if she is neither? Jess, Teen, and Oxford discuss how an old instance of performative wokeness (almost certainly intended in jest for a small media-class clique) has now been forcibly repackaged as a greater expression of minority, especially Asian American, anger. And who benefits the most from all this? The white liberal establishment, which not only gets to be seen...
2018-08-131h 05
The VICE Guide to Right NowWe Reviewed a $100 Counterfeit iPhone XMotherboard Editor-in-Chief Jason Koebler and staff writer Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai disassembled a counterfeit iPhone X that they bought through a colleague in China for $100. Then they asked security researchers to probe it to find out what it is. The verdict is wild.
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2018-07-2300 min
The New Screen Savers (Video)Farmers Turned Hackers and the Right to Repair - Right to repair, boosting cell signals, Samsung S9 leaked
On this episode of The New Screen Savers for Saturday, February 24, 2018, with Leo Laporte and Iain Thomson:
Why have some farmers turned to hacking to fix their tractors? Jason Koebler from Motherboard talked to several farmers who are doing just this, and it all boils down to the "right to repair." Kelsea Weber from iFixit updates us on what is happening with this movement on the state and federal level.
Jason Howell has a review of the new professional audio controller for musicians, the Universal Audio Arrow.
Would you use a bot to lower your bills? Megan Morrone...
2018-02-251h 29The New Screen Savers (Audio)Farmers Turned Hackers and the Right to Repair - Right to repair, boosting cell signals, Samsung S9 leaked
On this episode of The New Screen Savers for Saturday, February 24, 2018, with Leo Laporte and Iain Thomson:
Why have some farmers turned to hacking to fix their tractors? Jason Koebler from Motherboard talked to several farmers who are doing just this, and it all boils down to the "right to repair." Kelsea Weber from iFixit updates us on what is happening with this movement on the state and federal level.
Jason Howell has a review of the new professional audio controller for musicians, the Universal Audio Arrow.
Would you use a bot to lower your bills? Megan Morrone...
2018-02-251h 29
On the MediaBack to the FutureSince the Parkland school shooting, the student-led #NeverAgain movement has kept gun control in the headlines. This week, we look at how the movement began — and how pro-gun internet trolls have tried to undermine its message. Plus, how the world of Black Panther taps into a long history of black liberation struggles, and why Black History Month, in the Trump era, can feel both righteous and corporate, dignified and farcical.
1. Emily Witt [@embot], writer and reporter at the New Yorker, on the genesis of the #NeverAgain movement.
2. Jason Koebler [@jason_koebler], editor-in-chief at Motherboard, on the "cr...
2018-02-2349 min
The Outline World DispatchTwitter parties & coffee boycottsIt's Wednesday. Time flies. Today on the Dispatch:
Daniel Carter - Twitter parties are Tupperware parties reborn
Jason Koebler - Keurig Coffee Machines Are Hell Devices That Everyone Should Boycott
Hosted by Adrianne Jeffries. Produced by John Lagomarsino.
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2017-11-1514 min
Radio MotherboardRadio Motherboard Live: What Is the iPhone?It's the 10th anniversary of the iPhone! Motherboard's Jason Koebler talks to Brian Merchant, author of The One Device: The Secret History of the iPhone, about how Apple's most groundbreaking products changed our lives. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2017-06-2949 min
Radio MotherboardAn Update to Your MotherboardMotherboard has a change in management! Starting today, Jason Koebler is taking over the keys to this website as its new editor-in-chief. To set a course for the future of the site, he sat down with Derek Mead—who had been running Motherboard for the last four years—to record a podcast about where we’re going as a media outlet and where humanity is going, more generally. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2017-06-2231 min
pluspluspodcastVote for MotherboardWe'll be back with a new episode of plusplus tomorrow, but in the meantime, please vote for our other podcast, Radio Motherboard, in the Webbys: vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/…sts/technology Tweet at us telling us you voted (@jason_koebler or @motherboard), and we'll select one person to come on a future episode of Radio Motherboard show to talk about whatever they want. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2017-04-1902 min
Radio MotherboardVote for Motherboard, Come on Our Show!We'll be back with a new episode tomorrow, but in the meantime, please vote for Motherboard in the Webbys: https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2017/podcasts-digital-audio/general-podcasts/technology ... Then tweet at us telling us you voted (@jason_koebler or @motherboard), and we'll select one person to come on a future episode of the show to talk about whatever they want. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2017-04-1802 min
Radio MotherboardThe Only FCC Commissioner Still Fighting For Your Online PrivacyCongress just voted to repeal the FCC's privacy rules that prevent your internet provider from selling your personal data to the highest bidder. Last week, Radio Motherboard talked to Mignon Clyburn—the only Democrat on the commission—who is still fighting to protect your privacy. Motherboard Contributing Editor Sam Gustin and Senior Staff Writer Jason Koebler spoke with Clyburn about privacy, net neutrality, broadband access and competition, the future of the FCC, and what it means to resist President Trump from within the executive branch. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more inform...
2017-03-3037 min
pluspluspodcast#2 - America's Television GraveyardsWe love our gadgets, but we rarely think about what happens with them when we get rid of them. Often, they don't go far at all. In the last three years, the EPA has found warehouses full of millions of abandoned CRT televisions in eight states. Motherboard reporter Jason Koebler traveled to electronics recycling center near Dallas to learn why our old TVs are so hard to deal with. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
2017-03-1021 min
Chips: A Soccer PodcastChips Soccer Podcast Episode 9: Food Goes in HereIs ticket scalping a problem? And if so, who's to blame? Motherboard writer Jason Koebler joins the show to discuss his recent article on scalpers. Also, we have our obligatory conversation about the fat-shaming of Wayne Shaw. Plus, the return of MANAGER FIGHT! with what might be considered an upset in our completely imaginary throwdown. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
2017-02-2241 min