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21khz: The Art of Money In Music
Why Are Comedy Albums Being Taken Down From Spotify and other streaming services
Right before Thanksgiving, 2021 Spotify took down a large number of comedy albums. The question is why. The answer has to do with the fact that just because a comedian like Robin Williams says the words "Reality, what a concept" as opposed to sings them doesn't mean he does not have a copyright that needs to be licensed and a royalty paid when it streams. What happens if a streaming service like Spotify streams comedy albums without the needed licenses. The answer is not funny at all.
2021-12-06
56 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
You Know What's Not Funny- One Trillion Streams and One Billion Dollars In Unpaid Royalties For Comedians
Comedians' works are streamed and broadcast across Spotify, YouTube, Pandora, SiriusXM, and more. However, unlike music where royalties are paid for two copyrights (composition and master recording), Comedians have only ever been paid royalties on the recording of their performance, not on the underlying literary work (equivalent of a composition). Jeff Price, founder of Word Collections and previous founder of Tunecore, Audiam, and more is setting out to fix that by helping comedians license and collect royalties owed to them for their unlicensed literary works.
2021-10-04
1h 03
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
The Full Brain Workout
Season 2/ Episode 7 Rachel Francine/ Co-Founder and CEO, SingFit Andy Tubman/ Co-Founder and Chief of Therapeutics and Music, SingFit If there is one that I have learned doing this podcast for the past two years, it's that music contains value beyond the cost of a CD, an iTunes download or a Pandora stream. This show proves that music has a value beyond money. Rachel Francine and Andy Tubman are a brother and sister pair of entrepreneurs who have taken the best from each of their careers and combined them into a...
2019-02-27
32 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
A Black Rubber Juice Bar
Gregory Roach Season 2/ Episode 8 Sometimes, you just want to sit back, have a cup of coffee and listen to war stories from a bygone era. This is that kind of Podcast.. Gregory Roach has had an eclectic career. He worked at "Grendel's Lair", the storied nightclub in Philadelphia, worked as the lighting guy for a comedy club in New York City, went on the road with Billy Joel and Pat Benatar, he even designed a "Rubber Juice Bar" for Studio 54. It's a conversation that proves that sometimes it's th...
2019-02-11
30 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
A Whole Series of Music Events
Judith Finell - Judith Finell, Music Service Season 2/ Episode 8 You probably didn't watch, but on a Saturday night in April of 1983, "The Return of the Man from U.N.C.L.E.: The Fifteen Years Later Affair," aired on NBC. Trust me on this; it was a classic of 1980s television - paunchy middle-aged heroes, central casting villains, backlot sets, stock footage explosions - The 12-year-old me could not get enough. Our intrepid heroes even cross paths with a fellow spy - a suave Brit, wearing a dashing tux, driving an Aston Martin (complete...
2019-01-28
19 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
Judith Has Perfect Pitch
Judith Finell, Musicologist, president of Judith Finell Music Services Season 2, Episode 6 Ever started explaining something to a friend, and you can tell, usually, immediately, this person has no idea what you're talking about (you can see it in the eyes). When that happens, I always make up a little story... "It's like trying to describe the idea of fusion to a clueless platypus." Or... "It's like explaining the theory of general relativity to a stupid rabbit." Or... "It's like discussing the concepts of thermodynamics with a slow turtle. " ...
2018-12-17
27 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
"Blurred Lines" was it Plagiarism?
Paul Resnikoff - Founder, Digital Music News Season 2/ Episode 5 The second season finale of the original Star Trek back in 1969 was an odd episode. You will see where I am going with this in a moment..... Yes, Kirk and Spock are in the top of the show, Kirk and Spock are at the close of the show, but the meat of the show, the entire episode, is taken up with the story of some guy named - "Gary Seven." Gary Seven is a human who, as it turns out, was kidnapped by aliens and...
2018-11-26
1h 04
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
Really Cool Uncorrelated assets
What a piece of the Merrie Melodies? How about Bette Midler? Etta James? Santana? Well, they have all been for sale. One of the goals of this podcast has been to figure out all the ways music can generate money. We know about album sales, we've talked endlessly about streaming rights, we've discussed those "big fat juicy contracts" (that don't exist anymore). But what about music futures? Ever wanted to be modern versions of Randolph and Mortimer Duke? (Go ahead look it up, I'll wait). What if you could buy the rights to...
2018-11-07
19 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
Monetizing a mood - Danny Turner, SVP Mood Media
Danny Turner - Monetizing Moods. Global Senior Vice President for Creative Programming at Mood Media Season 2/ Episode 3 I've never been able to get the final scene from the "Blues Brothers," out of my head. Jake and Elwood spend the entirety of the (in my opinion fantastic) movie racing to the Cook County Assessors office, desperate to pay the back taxes on the orphanage. The final few moments of their quest (chased by thousands of members of Illinois law Enforcement) spent waiting in the elevator, staring at the blank walls, while the dulcet tones of "The...
2018-08-27
38 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
So...What Is Music Publishing
"Wait … You were in a Christian Rock Band? And you had to talk with Mr. Potty mouth - Me?" "It's OK Jeff, I've been in the music business a long time" Season 2/ Episode 2 - John Barker, and Everything you ever wanted to know about licensing - but (of course) were afraid to ask. I like to quote Donald Rumsfeld (Sorry, but I do) ... "There are things that we know we DON'T know, and there are things we didn't even know we needed to know." This is one of the episodes where we ask the questions you...
2018-07-20
34 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
"It's Carin - Like Car in the Garage"
Season 2/ Episode 1: Carin Gilfry – "Carin – Like Car in the Garage" Three things you need to know about today's podcast… First, "yes" we have been away for a little while. Life, work, family – all the things that get in the way of a successful podcast, managed to get in the way of our successful podcast. But we're back, and we have close to a dozen podcasts lined up and ready to go. Second, Carin pronounces her name, "car-in" as in, "the car is in the garage." Third, you might have already heard of Carin...
2018-06-29
36 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
The Dead Kennedys: Safe Harbors, Cheap Cotton & when Google bought YouTube
"People need to look at the Internet as a plantation sharecropper system - Yeah, you got your cotton really cheap but is that how you want society to go forward?" Episode 012: East Bay Ray - Safe Harbors and Cheap Cotton. From its infancy in the San Francisco Bay area in the 1970s to today, the enduring legacy of the Dead Kennedys, is due in no small part to its founding member, East Bay Ray. Ray's Music, The Oakland Tribune cited ray as penning, "some of the most recognizable and memorable guitar riffs to emerge from the...
2016-08-23
28 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
Punk Rock - By Way of Capitalism
Shawn Stern didn't set out to become a Punk Rock Icon. When he - along with his two brothers - created the (now) seminal band Youth Brigade back in 1980, all they really wanted to do was play music and hang with friends. Punk Rock, he quickly realized, was the perfect venue for that lifestyle, "We (could) play music, we don't have to be really good,… and you could talk about the problems - that really still exist - that (pop music) won't talk about." But Punk Rockers need to eat. So, when the major labels couldn't care less a...
2016-06-27
26 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
Hey! Let's Not Pay the Americans!
“This is a labyrinth of rules…. “ Gino Olivieri, President Premier Muzik. Are American Performers getting the money owed to them? In many cases – no, and it’s all perfectly legal. Back on October 26, 1961, representatives from 26 countries signed the, “Rome Convention for the Protection of Performers, Producers of Phonograms and Broadcasting Organizations”. Among other agreements, the treaty’s signers agreed that Broadcasters must pay performers (think singers and band members) for the use of their music – your song gets played on the radio - You get paid. Seems simple? Yeah, Right. The United Kingdom sig...
2016-02-24
25 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
So what happens AFTER you disrupt an entire industry?
So what happens AFTER you disrupt an entire industry? When last we saw him, Michael Robertson and MP3.com managed to uproot the business model of the entire music industry. Physical media, he realized, didn’t matter. People weren’t interested in CDs, cassettes or vinyl; they wanted music, and they wanted to it digitally. For Michael Robertson, the man who took a chance and spent $1000 on “Two letters and a number,” the world was never the same. Suddenly, Wall Street players, who wouldn’t return his calls came knocking. Soon after that, there were IPO...
2015-12-21
23 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
How, "two letters and a number" disrupted the music industry, had a multi-billion dollar IPO and then got sued
“So, I told my wife, I bought this new domain and she said, ‘what did you pay?’” I told her, ’a thousand dollars’. She was dumbfounded, ’That’s just two letters and a number!” So, I said, ‘no no no… trust me… it’s going to be big!’” - Michael Robertson, Founder, mp3.com Today’s episode isn’t so much about the music industry as it is about the life of an entrepreneur. It isn’t so much about being lucky, as it is about making your own luck. Let...
2015-12-03
29 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
Will Musicians Survive in the Age of Free When the "Bottle" is worth more than the wine:
Episode: 007 Will Musicians Survive in the Age of Free When the "Bottle" is worth more than the wine? Interview Subject: Count "I think we can all agree, if somebody has millions of streams and they are popular enough to be a household name they should be able to pay their rent…" - Count (Producer: Radiohead, Rolling Stones, New Order, Frank Sinatra, Blackalicious) They say we are living the, "Golden Age" of media: endless streams of music, more television then hours in the day, enough books to read in twenty lifetime...
2015-10-01
31 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
Intent, Licenses and "Sweat of the Brow"
“Musicians say they want to be in the business of music and yet they don’t understand the very basic concepts - it’s very strange to me.” Everyone wants to be a musician but according to George Howard nobody understands the business. George Howard, understands the music business. He’s worked with big stars (Carly Simon), he’s been a label executive (President of Rykodisk), he’s an MBA, h’s a Lawyer - he’s literally written the book on how make money in the music industry, “An Insider's Guide to the Record Industry and Music Publ...
2015-08-18
24 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
so... Why does Liza Minnelli get paid when the Sex Pistols Stream?
Why are artists so angry about their royalties from streaming music services like Spotify? Is there really no money or is there money but a crazy math formula that calculates who gets what is, well, just wrong. Could the problem really be a bad math equation? Meet Sharky Laguana. Front man and founder of the band Creeper Lagoon and founder of a band van rental service Bandago. Now construct a venn diagram of the music industry and rental services, Sharky sits right in the sweet spot.
2015-08-06
23 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
Don't Even Try To Get Signed
“Our function is to create new acts. Our function is to make famous. That is what we do, that is our unique skill set. We take artists, we develop them, we promote them, we make them the biggest most popular artists in the world.” - Avery Lipman, President, Republic Records The age of the sunglass wearing, leisure suit clad, cigar chomping, deal making music mogul may have gone the way of the dinosaur. But Avery Lipman still walks the earth, still makes million dollar deals, doesn’t smoke and is a much snappier dresser. ...
2015-07-09
21 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
Can you Sell Something that Doesn't Exist?
“There is a wonderful moment in Spinal Tap where the manager says to the artist, ‘look, it doesn’t matter how much we talk about it, there is no way to promote something that doesn't exist’. And what occurred to me back in 2006, when I was living on an air mattress in my mom’s spare room, was that the internet has shattered that paradigm, you can sell something that doesn’t exist.” Benji Rogers has monetized enthusiasm. As CEO of pledgemusic.com Benji built an entire business around connecting, artists and their most adoring fans. Want to hea...
2015-06-09
22 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
The Weighting Formula and a Giant Tivo
“The ones that are in control are very happy with the system. They are making a disproportionate amount of the collection and the distribution - wrongfully in my opinion, unethically and immorally…..We’re out there everyday standing at the mountaintop saying - Guys! There is another way to do this where Everybody wins!” - Scott Schreer In Part two of his interview, Scott takes a critical look at the music publishing system in the United States. Why are some songs more valuable than others? What exactly is the mysterious, “weighting formula”? What - if anything - can...
2015-05-12
18 min
21khz: The Art of Money In Music
What the heck is public performance and why does it generate $6 billion dollars
In this Episode, meet Scott Schreer. Scott wrote the music for "Have A Coke and A Smile", the NFL theme Song for Fox along with a myriad of jingles and scores for Snickers, Volkswagen, The Cosby Show and many many others. So how does Scott, and the rest of the world's songwriters and composers, make money from the use of their music? Scott takes us behind the scenes of a rubber band and glue bizzare and unbelievable system that tracks what the world listens to then collects and pays out over $6 billion dollars annually for the right of Public Pe...
2015-04-16
33 min