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CLOC TalkPresentations Unpacked: Balancing Content, Design, and DeliveryGreat presentations don’t just happen, they’re crafted. In this episode, Jenn McCarron sits down with 2025 CGI keynote, Nancy Rademaker and her colleague, Mandy Schild from The Speakers Club to break down the essential elements of powerful communication.The conversation explores how to balance content, design, and delivery to keep audiences engaged, whether in-person or virtually. They discuss the role of storytelling, visuals, and rehearsal, along with the surprising ways AI can enhance preparation while keeping presentations personal.They also dive into how AI is transforming industries, including legal, by automating routine tasks and allo...2025-06-1935 minCLOC Talk100 Episodes In: CLOC’s Transformative Legal Ops JourneyFrom a pandemic-born idea to a thriving conversation hub, CLOC Talk Live has hit 100 episodes! In this special milestone edition, Jenn McCarron is joined by David Cambria and Matt Rubbelke to reflect on the journey of legal operations, technology, and community-building.They dive into the evolution of legal tech, the power of mentorship, and the growing influence of AI, while exploring how legal teams are adapting to change and redefining their roles in the industry. The conversation also highlights law firms' shifting responsibilities and the importance of continuous innovation in legal ops.Tune in for...2025-06-0528 min
BDO's Legal Tech Talk PodcastDriving Legal Innovation: Change Management and Tech Adoption in Legal OpsGuest NotesJenn McCarron is an innovative leader in law technology known for her ability to develop talent, foster growth, and link business expertise with artistry and creativity. Jenn’s unique approach — which recognizes that a growth mindset requires a deeply creative process — has enabled her to build teams from the ground up that revolutionize major organizations and the industry at large. Jenn is an advocate of human-centric leadership. Jenn currently serves of president of the board of directors at Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) and host of CLOC Talk podcast. Jenn’s career includes being the visionar...2025-05-2319 min
UpLevel ViewLeadership, Culture, and Community in Legal Ops: A Greatest Hits Episode of UpLevel View with Heather ReidThis special episode, hosted by UpLevel Ops CMO Heather Reid, brings together powerful insights from some of Legal Ops’ most respected voices. From sticky-note strategy sessions to global legal transformation, we revisit five standout conversations that showcase how leadership, culture, and community are redefining modern legal departments. Featuring Christy Freer, Janene Asgeirsson, Audrey Taranto, Curt McDaniel, Jenn McCarron, and Mike Haven, this episode is a celebration of the people-first strategies and mindset shifts pushing Legal Ops to the Next Level. Highlights Tapping hidden risks: Humanizing legal tech. Janene Asgeirsson on transforming ske...2025-05-1428 minCLOC TalkFrom the Vault: A Legal Ops Trailblazer on Vulnerability, Industry Evolution, and ChangeWe’re unlocking a must-hear conversation from our archives! After an unforgettable opening session at CGI 2022, legal ops pioneer Francess Pomposo sat down with Jenn McCarron for a deep dive into the power of vulnerability, the meteoric rise of the legal ops industry, and the one constant in it all—change management. This episode is just as relevant today as it was when we first aired it. Whether you’re navigating transformation in your own organization or looking for inspiration from a true industry leader, this is one conversation you don’t want to miss! 2025-04-0318 min
The LA Food PodcastOpening Cafe Esca Part 1, with Reilly Cox and Luke Reyes. Plus, Jenn Harris puts the NY vs. (World Series Champ) LA food debate to rest, can food help Kamala win, and Father Sal is moving to LA.Part 1 of our brand new series, Opening Cafe Esca. We’re joined by accomplished hospitality pros Luke Reyes and Reilly Cox, the dream team behind the upcoming Coastal Italian gem slated to open in the Arts District in March of 2025.
Luke and Reilly have agreed to visit us on the pod once a month to take us behind the scenes of all that’s gonna go into opening their ambitious LA restaurant. Why are they doing this? Well, typically when restaurants open you just see a blurb in Eater or stroll by it on your...2024-11-011h 39
A Leader's StoryEpisode #9 - Jenn McCarronIn this weeks episode, Jenn McCarron shares her journey and insights on leadership and innovation in the legal tech space. She made a turning point decision to bring all her creativity into her job at Cisco, which led to her success in the corporate environment. Jenn emphasizes the importance of fostering innovation and creativity within teams, encouraging experimentation, collaboration, and a playful attitude. She also discusses the balance between driving results and maintaining a positive team culture, highlighting the importance of clear goals and celebrating wins. Jenn addresses the ethical dilemma of automating legal workflows and the challenge of...2024-08-2745 min
UpLevel ViewLegal Ops in 2024: The Power of Collaboration in Building an Industry with Jenn McCarron and Mike HavenThe next episode of UpLevel View is an instant classic, as UpLevel CEO Stephanie Corey hosts a discussion on "Legal Ops in 2024: The Power of Collaboration in Building an Industry" with current CLOC President Jenn McCarron and Mike Haven, Head of Global Legal Operations at Intel and recent past President of CLOC. These Legal Ops leaders will explore the critical role of collaboration in legal operations, highlighting how unified efforts drive innovation and efficiency. Steph, Jenn, and Mike will share their experience of creating and leading communities, discussing how these organizations have shaped the legal ops landscape. They will...2024-07-2244 min
Pearls On, Gloves Off#48 - CLOC Presidents Roundtable, with Jenn McCarron and Mike HavenWelcome to another episode of “Pearls On, Gloves Off,” where we dive deep into the challenges and innovative strategies within the legal and corporate world. Today, we bring together all three past and current CLOC presidents: Jenn McCarron, Mike Haven, and Mary O’Carroll. They discuss everything from Legal Ops, to AI, blockchain, and the meaning of life. In this Episode • The history of legal ops & what is Legal Ops 3.0? • Shifting from financial management to a more integrated, data-driven approach • What skills are most in demand today • Commiserating about experiences and...2024-07-0356 minCLOC TalkOrganization, Optimization, and HealthToday, Host and CLOC President Jenn McCarron is joined by one of her favorite humans in legal ops Frances Pomposo. Frances has been a legal ops visionary at companies like Adobe, and Lyft and is currently the Vice President of Legal and Government Affairs Strategy and Operations at Splunk. She also serves on the CLOC board of directors as our treasurer.In this episode, Frances and Jenn discuss one of their favorite things: the CLOC CORE- Organization Optimization and Health. The two CLOC board members explore the foundational pillars of building effective teams like:S...2024-06-1335 minCLOC TalkCLOC Talk LIVE: Legal Ops 3.0 Future Ready!Welcome, to this special episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the main stage at CGI 2024 in Las Vegas. Host Jenn McCarron had an incredible panel discussion with our closing keynote speaker, Andrew Perlman, Dean of the Suffolk University School of Law, Wendy Butler Curtis, Chief Innovation Officer at Orrick, and Alison Silver, the Global Head of Strategic Operations at Zoom.We dive into Legal Ops 3.0, or what Jenn is calling this new incarnation of legal operations roles, and how (and where) they should impact the business. We also discuss how technology is being integrated i...2024-05-3027 min
Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI PodcastLegal Ops 3.0 and the Future of the Profession: An Interview with Jenn McCarron, President of CLOCWelcome to "Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast," brought to you by Evisort. In this podcast, we explore the transformative world of legal AI, focusing on the innovative intersection of law, business, and technology. Join our hosts, Hal and Memme, as they engage with industry leaders, legal experts, and tech visionaries to uncover the latest trends, challenges, and opportunities in contract management and AI-driven legal solutions. On this episode, we welcome Jenn McCarron to our show. Jenn is the President of the Board of Directors at CLOC, the largest and fastest growing organization for corporate legal o...2024-05-0246 min
Get Your FILL, Financial Independence and Long LifeFrom Near-Death to World Record: with Jenn DrummondIn this episode of “Get Your FILL, Financial Independence & Long Life” we dive deep into the inspiring journey of Jenn Drummond, entrepreneur, world record holder, and mom of 7.
Join Chris as she delves into Jen's incredible story of resilience and determination.
From surviving a near-fatal car crash to setting world records and climbing mountains, Jen shares her insights on overcoming obstacles and seizing opportunities. Discover how Jen's life-changing experience sparked a quest to live life to the fullest, challenging conventional notions of success and motherhood.
Learn valuable lessons on goal-setting, perseverance, and the power of self-belief. 📘 Recommended Reading: "Breakproof: 7 Strateg...2024-04-2248 minCLOC TalkLIVE from SXSW 2024 - Vol. TwoToday in part two of our special episode of CLOC Talk, we are wading through the dynamic world of legal tech. Where failure meets innovation head-on. This week, we're live from Austin, Texas, where we had the privilege to be an official 2024 SXSW interactive panel.Host Jenn McCarron was joined on stage with, Justin Felder, Senior Manager of Legal Operations at Indeed. com and Jerry Ting, the visionary CEO and co-founder of AI tech company Evisort. Together, the three legal operations experts journey through the highs and lows of pioneering innovation in the legal tech...2024-04-1824 minCLOC TalkLIVE from SXSW 2024 - Vol. OneToday on another special episode of CLOC Talk, we are wading through the dynamic world of legal tech. Where failure meets innovation head-on. This week. We're coming at you live from Austin, Texas, where we had the privilege to be an official 2024 SXSW interactive panel.Host Jenn McCarron was joined on stage with, Justin Felder, Senior Manager of Legal Operations at Indeed. com and Jerry Ting, the visionary CEO and co-founder of AI tech company Evisort. Together, the three legal operations experts journey through the highs and lows of pioneering innovation in the legal tech...2024-04-0434 min
The AbstractEP 29: What's Next for Legal Ops: Jenn McCarron, President of CLOCWhat can a strong community offer a legal ops professional working alone within their organization? How do you deal with the stress of a chaotic project management role while fostering change? Will legal ops eventually shift away from legal and into the business and tech sphere? Jenn McCann, Director of Legal Ops at Netflix and President of the Board of Directors at CLOC can offer an expert perspective on all of these questions and more. During her term as CLOC president, she is strengthening the organizations to community, content, and conversation, and developing a legal...2024-03-2952 min
Contract HeroesLinkedIn Live: Reducing Resistance In Legal Operations with Jenn McCarron(0:00:01) - Legal Ops and Tech at NetflixLegal ops at tech companies like Netflix and Spotify, challenges of tech adoption, fostering engagement and learning, and evolution of legal ops. (0:04:49) - Evolution of Legal Technology CareersFrom touring musician to legal ops professional, embracing change and innovation leads to rewarding career growth. (0:17:51) - Boosting User Adoption Through TrainingPivot tables simplify data analysis for legal professionals and humor adds value to educational content for Cisco employees. (0:32:57) - Creative Video Production in Corporate Set...2024-03-2653 minCLOC TalkBreaking the Glass Ceiling to the StarsWelcome to this special episode of CLOC Talk, where host Jenn McCarron went to space via an interview with Astronaut Colonel Eileen Collins. Colonel Collins was the first woman to pilot and command a NASA space shuttle and author of the book, Through the Glass Ceiling to the Stars. This episode is not only about dreams, it's about the discipline and focus needed to reach them, and about literally reaching for the stars. Onward and upward!!!2024-03-2138 min
Women Creating WealthFrom Near-Death to World Record: Jenn Drummond Redefined SuccessConnect with JennLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenn-drummond/Website: www.jenndrummond.com Connect with Chris: chrismccarron.comEmpower Your Inner Millionaire: eyimbook.com
2024-03-1548 minCLOC TalkGetting Pumped for 2024 with the CLOC Executive Leadership TeamOn this episode, President of CLOC, Jenn McCarron sits down with the new 2024 CLOC executive leadership team, Farah Pepper, CLOC Vice President and Chief Legal Innovation Counsel at Marsh McLennan, and Frances Pomposo, CLOC Treasurer and Vice President, Legal and Government Affairs, Strategy and Operations at Splunk. The leadership trio goes deep on the importance of professional communities like CLOC, their goals for this year, and why Taylor Swift will always be the princess of pop. You know the important stuff.If you haven't bought your tickets for the CLOC Global Institute, May 6th-9th 2024...2024-03-0721 minCLOC TalkThe Chocolate and Peanut Butter of Digital TransformationWelcome to the first CLOC Talk episode with our new roster of guest hosts. This week's guest host is CLOC Board member Adam Becker, Director of Legal Operations at Cockroach Labs. Adam is joined by Cash Butler Founder of Clarilegal, to discuss CLOC Core 2, Financial Management. The two legal ops leaders emphasize the importance of ensuring that the processes of a legal department align with the overall business goals. They also chat about the importance of cross-departmental relationships, especially with the finance team. As Jenn McCarron always says, "Legal Ops and Finance Ops teams, are th...2024-02-2225 min
The Legal Ops PodcastJenn McCarron on the CLOC Presidency and 2024 predictionsAt the start of 2024 Jenn McCarron became President of the Board of the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC), succeeding Mike Haven. We invited Jenn back on to the show to discuss: * the process of becoming President * the factors she considered in weighing up the role * CLOC's role in the legal ops community, and how it has developed over time * what changes we can expect in the future under Jenn's leadership * the extent to which Jenn's background in entertainment will be relevant to her role We also continued...2024-02-051h 13CLOC TalkYou Don't Need a DashboardScratch that, you probably need a dashboard, but trust us you don't need all those widgets. On this episode, host Jenn McCarron sits down with Jason Barnwell, who leads Digital Transformation and serves as Associate General Counsel at Microsoft. Jenn and Jason kick off our new CLOC Core 12 series with a conversation that could be its own Business Intelligence course. They go in-depth, discussing the journey of BI, its application in legal tech, and how to navigate the BI journey whether you’re just starting out, or in a more advanced legal ops shop. ...2024-01-2540 minCLOC TalkHelp, I Tripped and Fell Into Legal OpsWE ARE BACK. Happy New Year. On today's episode, host, and new CLOC President, Jenn McCarron is joined by friend and legal ops colleague Lewis Bretts. The two catch up in NYC this fall after a whirlwind week of conferences. Tune in to hear the two discuss the future of legal ops, their shared skepticism around generative AI, the importance of psychology and so much more! 2024-01-1134 minCLOC TalkGiving ThanksA quick note from host Jenn McCarron.2023-11-2301 minCLOC TalkCLM; IYKYKOn today's episode, we are back at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London, where host Jenn McCarron is joined by guest Amy McConnell, Head of Legal Operations and Business Contracting at Vodafone. Jenn and Amy get into the perennial topic of contract lifecycle management. These two experts compare notes on our methods for making tech tools that work for humans, not the other way around.2023-11-1629 minCLOC TalkDesign UnicornThis week on CLOC Talk, CEO and Co-Founder of WOW Legal Experience Karol Valencia joins host Jenn McCarron for a colorful conversation on the most elusive of all unicorns, the legal design unicorn. If you have been in the comments on LinkedIn lately you have heard Jenn's thoughts on the topic of legal design. This conversation with Karol may have changed her mind on a few things. And one more thing, does everyone in Legal Ops have a side gig as a musician? 2023-11-0922 minCLOC TalkThe History of Legal OpsOn this episode, we kick off our series of interviews from the podcast lounge at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London. Caroline Hill, editor-in-chief at The Legal IT Insider, joins CLOC Talk host Jenn McCarron to talk about the history of legal operations.https://legaltechnology.com/2023-10-1940 minCLOC TalkThat Tech Stack LifeDo you have a tech stack? Do you want one?In this episode, host Jenn McCarron and co-host Tommie Ferreira get technical with the Sr. Director of Legal Operations at Microsoft, Tom Orrision. Learn about Tom's insane Microsoft tech stack, and why you probably don't need all the things they have. If you haven't already, get your passes to CLOC EMEA 2023 in London this September 18th - 19th. Early bird pricing is still in effect until August 15th, 2023.2023-08-0326 minThe Legal Ops PodcastLegal innovation at Netflix with rockstar Jenn McCarronJenn McCarron is the Director of Legal Operations and Technology at Netflix, a board member of the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) and host of the CLOC Talk Podcast. If legal operations has rockstars, Jenn is undoubtedly one of them. We covered lots of ground with Jenn, including: * What legal innovation looks like at Netflix * The vital importance of storytelling and communication * Career paths for legal operations professionals * Jenn's own career path from IT program management to legal operations director * Whether or not legal design is really "...2023-07-241h 03CLOC TalkReal Talk with Mary O'Carroll Vegas EditionMary O’Carroll, Chief Community Officer at Ironclad, and CLOC Talk host Jenn McCarron catch up with a real talk session in Vegas at CGI 2023. With these two, what happens in Vegas, does not stay in Vegas. In this episode, we talk to Mary about her standing-room-only sessions at this year's CLOC Global Institute, and why she's pumped about how generative AI will disrupt legal for the better. You don't want to miss this catch-up between two legal ops icons.Thank you to our sponsor for this episode LegalBillReview.com. Listeners ac...2023-07-2027 minCLOC TalkTransforming with Baratunde ThurstonThis week we join host Jenn McCarron as she debriefs with keynote speaker, podcast host, and activist Baratunde Thurston on the topic of transformation.Those of us who work in legal operations deal with professional and corporate transformations daily. In this super honest conversation, Jenn and Bartunde reflect on their personal transformations that began with the shutdown in 2020 and how they are moving forward after all that change.Check out Bartunde's podcast How to Citizen wherever you get your podcasts.Special thanks to our sponsor KPMG. Find them at www.kpmglaw.com2023-07-1331 minCLOC TalkSmarter, Not Harder: Navigating Wellness in Legal OpsIn this week's episode host Jenn McCarron, Director of Legal Operations and Technology at Netflix, sits down with Brian Meegan, Director of Sales and Marketing at ProSearch. to chat about wellness at work. Brian reveals how ProSearch measures and analyzes the staff's experience with their products and designs solutions to improve their happiness and engagement. This progressive approach, utilizing technology, data, and social science, showcases a glimpse into the future of work. People managers this is a must listen. Many thanks to ProSearch for sponsoring Wellness at CGI 2023.2023-07-0614 minCLOC TalkThe Dark Night of the Soul LIVE from CGI 2023Welcome to season two of CLOC Talk! Today's episode comes at you LIVE from the CLOC Global Institute (CGI) main stage.Join host Jenn McCarron, Director of Legal Operations & Technology at Netflix as she goes deep into the dark night of the soul with panel guests Virginia Griffith of LegalBillReview, Jennifer Mattson of Nationwide, and Carl Morrison of modCounsel.This episode is sponsored by LegalBillReview.2023-06-2946 min
In-House OutliersLive from CLOC Global Institute with Manulife's Laurie David-Henric and InnoLaw Group, PLLC's Lara TropeIn the latest episode of the In-House Outliers "Live from CLOG Global Institute" series, Alex Kelly spoke with Lara Trope (Legal Operations Consultant at InnoLaw Group, PLLC) and Laurie David-Henric (Global Head of Operations & Strategy at Manulife) about their insights into the legal ops trends that caught their attention during CGI.
Lara also shared what triggered her initial interest in legal operations, and Laurie discussed her thoughts on the role of A.I. in the industry (with a surprise guest appearance from the great Jenn McCarron).
2023-06-0517 minCLOC TalkHold That Thought! BRBLegal Ops HEROS. How about that CLOC Global Institute? Have you recovered yet? Our host Jenn McCarron drops in for a quick update on the next season of CLOC Talk.🐙 CLOC INSTAGRAM🕺🏻 JENN INSTAGRAM2023-05-2600 minCLOC TalkThe Answer is YesOn this episode, we're sliding into host Jenn McCarron's LinkedIn DM's and reading the juicy questions that you all are asking. Listen with us as we help our audience with their burning legal ops questions. We are 3 weeks away from CGI VEGAS!!! Don't miss out. Get your tickets today!!!2023-04-2723 min
CLOC TalkThe Journey is the DestinationHost Jenn McCarron discusses the evolving Legal Ops career path with Co-host Tommie Ferreira, Head of Legal Operations at Cedar. The two discuss the unique journeys that helped them develop the skills that have brought them to their current roles. Later in the episode, the Director of Legal Operations at Cloud Software, Adrienne Schaal joins them to share her story.Don't forget to join us in Vegas for CLOC Talk Live at CGI 2023!!2023-04-2032 minCLOC TalkMentorship MomentMarie Widmer, Senior Legal Operations Manager, Technology at Hubspot, slides into host Jenn McCarron's LinkedIn DM's for a legal ops pep-talk that leaves Jenn asking who was supposed to be mentoring who. Don't forget to buy your tickets to CGI Vegas 2023. On sale now!!2023-04-1327 min
CLOC TalkLegal Ops Learning Lab with Brian TangAs we ramp up to CGI 2023 we join Jenn McCarron as she interviews Brian Tang, from the LITE Lab at the University of Hong Kong, in the moments after CGI 2022 wrapped.Brian takes us behind the scene of the LITE LAB and how the project got started. And we have to mention that Brian was the 2022 CLOC Legal Innovation in Operations (LIO) Project Awards winner. For more information about the 2022 CLOC LIO recipients and the project, visit: https://cloc.org/legal-innovation-operations-lio-project/ 2023-04-0616 min
CLOC TalkThe Power of VulnerabilityLegal ops pioneer and leader Frances Pomposo joined host Jenn McCarron in the podcast lounge after her powerful CGI 2022 opening session. This dynamic duo discusses the power of vulnerability, the meteoric evolution of the legal ops industry, and what it so often comes down to - change management.2023-03-3018 min
CLOC TalkSalvationBasha Rubin, CEO & Co-Founder at Priori Legal, and Jacqueline Schafer, CEO & Co-Founder of Clearbrief, join host Jenn McCarron and ca-host Tommie Ferreira to continue the conversation about the rise of the machines in legal operations and tech. These legal AI innovators ponder if AI just might be the salvation that all lawyers have been waiting for. 2023-03-2330 min
CLOC TalkThe Rise of the MachinesThomson Reuters Senior Council, Raees Nakhuda, and Product Executive, Nick Vandivere join host Jenn McCarron and co-host Tommie Ferreira to discuss the evolving and changing landscape of Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning. In their conversation, they debunk some misconceptions about AI and share real-world opportunities for machine learning.Thank you to Thomson Reuters for sponsoring this episode. 2023-03-1641 min
CLOC TalkReal Talk with Mary O'CarrollMary O’Carroll, Chief Community Officer at Ironclad, and host Jenn McCarron catch up with a real talk session after their latest Ironclad webinar. This no holds barred conversation will have you laughing and crying as these two legal ops innovators go deep. Level Up Your Legal Ops Webinar SHOW NOTES: Document management solutions for in-house - Friend or folklore? ChatGPT - how will it impact the legal industry? will it replace lawyers? (Answer: never) David Goggins, military special ops and why supplemental reading, creative outlets, and fighting the war within build a legal ops warrior me...2023-02-2317 min
CLOC TalkAcross the Legal Ops GalaxyJason Barnwell, General Manager for Digital Transformation of Corporate, External, and Legal Affairs at Microsoft, and Jae Um, Founder & Executive Director at Six Parsecs, join CLOC Talk host Jenn McCarron to discuss a wide range of juicy legal ops topics. They cover everything from the difference between rules and principles to effective leadership styles and all the multitudes in between. This trio of industry thought leaders will have you going "Ah Ha!", "Oh Wow!" and "So True!" over and over again. 2023-02-1556 min
CLOC TalkInclusion: It's an Inside Job - A Conversation with Netflix's Director of Inclusion Strategy, Cristina HernandezJenn McCarron interviews her colleague Director of Global Inclusion Initiatives & Insights at Netflix, Cristina Hernandez about her role and passion for inclusion in the workplace. Link to article Cristina mentions in the episode: https://hbr.org/2021/12/connect-with-empathy-but-lead-with-compassion2023-02-0123 min
CLOC TalkAuthenticity & Creativity in Hypergrowth Legal Environments - 3 Legal Ops Leaders ReflectListen to legal ops leaders, Jenn McCarron, Jo Vong, and Sheena Ferrari discuss how they've leveraged creative outlets to inspire their work. The group also discusses how building confidence in showing up authentically has been a journey to fulfillment and success.2023-01-2631 minCLOC TalkScarred Not Scared – Leveraging Lessons Learned from CLM FailuresIn this episode CLOC Talk host, Jenn McCarron is joined co-host Tommie Ferreira, Director of Legal Operations at Peloton Interactive. Jenn and Tommie sit down with Chad Aboud, a former General Counsel at an international tech company and Colin Levy, Director of Legal and Evangelist at Malbek and get real about the failures and pains along the CLM implementation path. Their discussion covers:Lessons learned from previous failed attempts Listening and understanding diverse perspectives and experiencesTranslating these experiences into a busines caseCelebrating successes and setting milestones along the wayThis episode is in collaboration with Malbek...2022-11-0143 min
CLOC TalkSet Up for Success - Foundations of a Triumphant Legal Ops Career (Live from London)Jenn McCarron sits down with Legal Ops 101 speaker, Adam Becker and attendee, Camilla Berglund to discuss easy and early wins for the new legal ops professional. Their conversation covers:The objective of CLOC's Legal Ops 101 foundational trainingLeaning in and learning from the legal ops communityLeveraging small moments to demonstrate your expertiseA special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons. 2022-11-0113 min
CLOC TalkRiffing on Mics with Mike - What's Wrong with CLM and Learning to Fly at Altitude in Legal Ops with Innovation and Storytelling (Live from London)Jenn McCarron sits down with Mike Naughton, Vice President of Marketing at legal tech startup, xMentium, to weave tales and tips on marketing, storytelling and reveal a slew of legal ops hot tips for success. Key takeaways include:The role of language in contractingMeeting Lawyers where they are, and wrapping service layers around the restTake risks, take a point of view, take a guess, keep your innovation cycle times short and your read outs loudA special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons. 2022-11-0118 min
CLOC TalkDriving Adaptable Change Through Storytelling (Live from London)Jenn McCarron leads the opening session at the 2022 CLOC EMEA Summit discussing the art of storytelling in professional contexts with Maurus Schreyvogel and Emer Kelly. Listen to the group discuss driving change through a narrative arch.Act I - The Characters: Getting to know your protagonists and influencers.Act II - The Conflict: Understanding the and the hesitations.Act II - The Resolution: Offering a solution that leads to better outcomes for your characters.A special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons. 2022-11-0141 min
CLOC TalkHallway Conversations - Favorite Swag to Key Lessons Learned (Live from London)Co-Hosts Nick Cranfield and Jenn McCarron take you around the CLOC EMEA Summit hallways talking to attendees and sponsors. This episode will transport you to the center of the event action. Listen in to hear attendees discuss their favorite take-a-ways, both learning and swag. A special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons. 2022-11-0141 min
CLOC TalkReal Talk with Jenn & Mary - London Edition (Live from London)Industry leaders, Jenn McCarron and Mary O'Carroll are back sharing their unfiltered thoughts and hot takes. Listen in to their chat on:What they're readingHOT TAKE: Where you should really startWhy lawyers hate CLMCareer pathsA special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons. 2022-11-0118 min
CLOC TalkLook How Far We've Come - Reflections on What Has Changed, and What is to Come for the Legal Ops Profession (Live from London)As the CLOC EMEA Summit wraps, Jenn McCarron sits down with CLOC EMEA Leader and Board Member, Aine Lyons to reflect on the journey and what lays ahead for the legal ops community.Topics discussed include:The growth of the professionThe reality of driving changeMental wellbeingA special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons. 2022-11-0113 min
CLOC TalkThe Compassionate Leader - Preventing burnout with compassion, curiosity and community (Live from London)Jenn McCarron sits down with global recruitment strategy leader, and self-described Neurodiversity Warrior, Colin Minto to discuss the importance of compassion and understanding for leaders moving us into the future. Some tips discussed include:Use curiosity paired with compassion as a tool to understand your colleagues' individual strugglesUnderstand people from an emotional index with active listening and empathy. Don't act alone! Get back to community, building it, contributing to it, and leveraging it when you need it. To learn more about Colin and his mission to support forward thinking organizations with their neurodiversity journey, please visit...2022-11-0135 minCLOC TalkWe are All Scientists - A Conversation with the VillageMD Legal DepartmentIn this episode CLOC Talk host, Jenn McCarron is joined by new co-host Tommie Ferreira, Director of Legal Operations at Peloton Interactive. Jenn and Tommie sit down with VillageMD’s General Counsel, Wendy Rubas and members of their legal operations team, Legal Ops Lead, Demetrios Kirvassilis and Contracts Manager, Mical Tesfazghi Yibrah to discuss how they’ve built a team with diverse skill sets that have directly contributed to their success as a new legal ops function. 2022-09-0142 minCLOC TalkLeveraging Entity Management Software for the Legal Ops RoleIn this episode, CLOC Talk host, Jenn McCarron, is joined by Carl Morrison, Director of Legal Operations and the Cosmopolitan Las Vegas, Tom Stephenson, Director of Legal Operations at Credit Karma and Kyle Marks, Director, Customer Success at Athennian. They discuss why legal operations professionals can leverage a tech stack, and why entity management software should play an integral role in that tech stack.This episode is in collaboration with Athennian, an entity and subsidiary management software provider. 2022-07-1840 min
CLOC TalkCLOC Talk Special Preview of the CLOC Global Institute Digital ExperienceThis special teaser episode includes highlights from several episodes in the 2022 CGI Digital Experience. CLOC Talk host Jenn McCarron, member of the CLOC Board of Directors and Director of Legal Operations and Technology at Netflix, is joined by guest co-hosts Tom Stephenson, Director of Legal Operations at Credit Karma and Carl Morrison, Director of Legal Operations at the Cosmopolitan Las Vegas, to interview speakers and attendees at the 2022 CLOC Global Institute in Las Vegas. Conversations covered a wide range of topics from tech implementations to key leadership skills for effective change management. Want to hear more? Check o...2022-06-2709 min
Happy Whole You91. Transformational Leadership with Jenn McCarron from NetflixJenn McCarron currently serves as Director of Legal Operations and Technology at Netflix where she leads a team focused on strategic financial management, technology and innovation, operations, and knowledge management for Netflix’s global legal function. Jenn also serves on the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) Board of Directors and is the host of their legal transformation-themed podcast, CLOC Talk. And today, she’s going to share a little bit of her story and talk about transformational leadership. “A lot of mistakes can be a compass, if we let them be the compass to the direction...2022-06-2355 minPearls On, Gloves Off#2 - Director of Legal Operations at Netflix, Jenn McCarron, Breaks Down Her Impressive CareerIn this episode, Mary is joined by her long-time friend Jenn McCarron, Director of Legal Operations and Technology at Netflix. The pair discuss Jenn’s career trajectory, the growth of legal ops, and the massively successful CLOC event they attended recently. Jenn takes us through the timeline of her career. Starting from when she was a child and wanted to be a cartoonist all the way to her present role as the director of legal operations at the world’s largest streaming platform. Jenn provides great insight into the benefits of creativity in the legal ops s...2022-06-0654 min
Pearls On, Gloves OffDirector of Legal Operations at Netflix, Jenn McCarron, Breaks Down Her Impressive CareerIn this episode, Mary is joined by her long-time friend Jenn McCarron, Director of Legal Operations and Technology at Netflix. The pair discuss Jenn’s career trajectory, the growth of legal ops, and the massively successful CLOC event they attended recently. Jenn takes us through the timeline of her career. Starting from when she was a child and wanted to be a cartoonist all the way to her present role as the director of legal operations at the world’s largest streaming platform. Jenn provides great insight into the benefits of creativity in the legal ops s...2022-06-0654 minCLOC TalkThe Art of the Possible Episode 3: The Evolution of Matter Management and How to Leap-Frog Your StrategyThis episode is the final in a 3-part series we are releasing in collaboration with EY Law titled “The Art of the Possible”. In this conversation CLOC Talk Host, Jenn McCarron is joined by Eric Elfman, CEO at Onit, and Duc Tran, Senior Manager, EY Law – Legal Function Consulting, where the discuss they evolution of matter management and how legal teams can successfully implement and leverage it across departments.2022-04-0432 minCLOC TalkThe Art of the Possible Episode 2: Enterprise CLM - Practical strategies for improving business performanceThis is episode 2 in the 3 part mini-episode series CLOC is releasing in collaboration with EY Law, titled The Art of the Possible.In this episode, CLOCTalk host, Jenn McCarron is joined by Barb Rogers, Vice President Global Contracts at Honeywell, and Kyle McNeil, EY Americas CLM Leader, where they discuss strategies for implementing an enterprise contract lifecycle management system including including how to have impact, where to start, and common roadblocks. A special thank you to EY Law for developing and supporting this series.2022-02-2336 minCLOC TalkThe Art of the Possible Episode 1: How the Delivery of Legal services has Evolved in 2020 & 2021This is episode 1 in the 3 part mini-episode series CLOC is releasing in collaboration with EY Law, titled The Art of the Possible.In this episode, CLOC Talk host, Jenn McCarron discusses how the delivery of legal services has evolved throughout 2020 and 2021 with guests Kristi Gedid, Managing Director at EY Law - Legal Function Consulting and Alex Su, Head of Community Development at IronClad.A special thank you to EY Law for developing and supporting this series.2022-01-2526 minCLOC TalkSpecial Episode - How to Fail Fast and PivotThis special episode of CLOC Talk includes a sample of the hit 2021 Virtual EMEA Summit Session, How to Fail Fast and Pivot: Lessons from the Legal Ops Front Lines. In this honest and impactful session, CLOC Talk host Jenn McCarron, Michael Grupp, Dan Yi, and Maurus Schreyvogel all shared a key moment of failure and how they learned and grew from it.2021-11-1034 minCLOC TalkProgress Not Perfection - The Challenges and Opportunities of Leading Legal Ops in a Small Legal TeamThe legal ops profession has gained a reputation for being the scrappy, “make it happen” role within a legal team. This can have a major impact on small legal departments. In this episode of CLOC Talk, we explore challenges, opportunities, and advice for Legal Ops leads on demonstrating value. Join host Jenn McCarron in conversation with Stephanie Sciullo, Vice President & Chief Legal Officer at MSA Safety and Mateo Sanchez, Legal Operations Specialist at Clorox as they discuss inspirations, failures, and wins while driving change in their small legal teams. 2021-08-3045 minCLOC TalkSpecial Episode - 2021 State of the Industry DiscussionThis special episode includes a sample from the 2021 CLOC Global Institute State of the Industry session. CLOC Talk Podcast Host, Jenn McCarron, leads a discussion with CLOC board members Aine Lyons and Lisa Konie to discuss trends, thoughts, and insights from the state of the industry annual survey recently concluded with CLOC members. You can catch the full session on the CLOC YouTube channel.2021-06-2243 minCLOC TalkLaunching the New Ecosystem Community: Why CLOC? Why Now?In Febraury 2021, CLOC launched a major transformational initiative inviting the entire legal ecosystem to join CLOC and be part of the movement to progress the business of law. Jenn McCarron, Director of Legal Operations & Technology at Netflix sits down with Mary O'Carroll, CLOC Board President and Director of Legal Ops at Google and Betsi Roach, Executive Director at CLOC to dig into what this means, how it came about, and why it matters.2021-02-1217 minCLOC Talk"How Did You Get Here”?In this episode, we are speaking with global leaders to hear their stories on how they got started in the Legal Operations field. A field that is multidisciplinary and draws professionals from various industries, roles, skills and educational backgrounds. Listen as Aine Lyons from VMWare and Kamala Vasagam from NBC Universal dive deep with Jenn McCarron from Netflix, sharing stories of light bulb moments of career success, how different their paths are from their childhood dreams, overcoming challenges, keeping balanced, and reflecting on the skills needed to drive success not only in ops but the entire legal industry. 2020-10-2535 min
Building Business + Balance: Conversations with BPBThe future of content and women stepping into the C-Suite with Jenn McCarronOn episode 2 of "Building Business + Balance" Brian sits down with Jennifer McCarron, CEO of Thunderbird Entertainment and overall super woman. Jenn shares how she balances running a fast-paced company of over 600 employees, leading the way in the competitive streaming industry, and motherhood simultaneously. She's widely known to create magic in the marketplace, take a listen and find out why. *This episode was originally recorded in September 2019.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.2020-07-2853 minCLOC TalkThe CLOC Core 12 - What is it, what’s changed, and how do I apply it?Legal operations is a fast-moving, evolving, and varied discipline. To be effective, legal operations leaders must engage in various areas – from setting budgets, to selecting priorities, to leveraging technology, and others. Listen as members of CLOC’s Board of Directors (Jason Barnwell, Mike Haven, Jenn McCarron, and Mary O’Carroll) discuss our revised framework for practicing legal operations - the CLOC Core 12. Given that every company and team has its own unique needs, listeners will not only learn about the new core areas like project management, practice operations and business intelligence, but will also take away how the Core 12 can hel...2020-06-2536 min