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More Than A TestFostering Belonging and Inclusion at Alamo Heights with Dr. Dana BasharaIn this episode, host Jennie Tookoian engages in a rich conversation with Dr. Dana Bashara, the superintendent of the Alamo Heights Independent School District in Central San Antonio. Dr. Bashara embodies the belief that education is a heartfelt mission beyond just a career path, infusing her leadership with purpose and personal engagement.Alamo Heights stands out for its historical roots dating back to 1909 and its strong sense of community, serving 4,800 students across five campuses within a unique, landlocked nine square miles. Dr. Bashara, who has dedicated nearly three decades to the district, shines a light on...2025-04-1748 min
More Than A TestRedefining Education: Doctor Micah Studer's Vision for Charter SchoolsWelcome to another episode of "More Than a Test." In this episode, we're excited to have Dr. Micah Studer, executive director of Visions in Education Charter School, share insights into how the school is transforming the educational landscape in California. Visions, an online and homeschool program, serves a wide and diverse student body, focusing on personalized learning and community engagement. Dr. Studer discusses the school's innovative strategies that prioritize strong relationships between teachers, students, and families, creating a supportive and inclusive environment. With stories of student resilience and tailored educational approaches, Dr. Studer illustrates how Visions is preparing students...2025-03-2752 min
More Than A TestExploring Galveston ISD's Unique Initiatives with Superintendent Matthew NeighborsIn this episode of "More Than a Test," host Jennie Tookoian sits down with Dr. Matthew Neighbors, the superintendent of Galveston Independent School District (GISD). With nearly two decades of experience in the district, Dr. Neighbors shares his personal journey, discussing the unique qualities of the Galveston community and the exciting educational initiatives under his leadership. The conversation delves into how GISD is embracing AI-powered learning tools, expanding academic opportunities, and addressing teacher retention challenges. Dr. Neighbors highlights the district's commitment to empowering students and fostering a culture of trust and resilience among educators. Tune in to discover...2025-03-2051 min
More Than A TestThe Evolution and Impact of Career Tech Education at Springfield Clark CTCIn this episode of More Than a Test, host Jennie Tookoian welcomes Michelle Patrick, the superintendent of Springfield Clark Career Technology Center in Ohio, to discuss the transformative impact of Career and Technology Education (CTE) on students and communities. As February is Career Technical Education Month, Michelle shares the unique offerings and successes of her institution, which serves the students of Clark County by providing real-world skills and pathways to high-demand careers. From the wide range of programs available—from health sciences to engineering and agriculture—Michelle delves into the critical role of community partnerships, the evolving landscape of CTE...2025-03-1351 min
More Than A TestLeading a Rural School District: Challenges and Opportunities with Devvon DettraIn this episode of More Than a Test, host Jennie Tookoian converses with Devvon Dettra, the dynamic superintendent of Rolling Hills Local School District in Ohio. Devvon, a Meadowbrook High School alumnus, offers a unique perspective in tackling the distinct challenges and opportunities within small rural school districts. The discussion highlights how Rolling Hills is revolutionizing education through innovative measures such as consolidating into a single, cutting-edge building, promoting teacher collaboration, and expanding resources and technology accessibility.Tune in as Devvon shares the district's strategic approach to combating poverty, increasing student opportunities through career-tech education, and...2025-03-0648 min
More Than A TestLeading with Technology: Enhancing Education Through Innovation and Operations with Ryan AltemeyerIn More Than a Test podcast, host Jennie Tookoian sits down with Ryan Altemeyer, Associate Superintendent of the Monterey Peninsula Unified School District, to explore the intersection of technology, operations, and education. With over 12 years of experience in the technology industry and extensive leadership in educational operations, Altemeyer shares how his district is leveraging technology to enhance student learning and operational efficiency.The conversation delves into the unique challenges and opportunities of serving a diverse student population across Monterey, Marina, and Seaside, California. Altemeyer highlights the district's proactive approach to integrating technology, including early adoption of...2025-01-1637 min
More Than A TestImproving Education with Dr. Svetlana Cvetkovic: From Data to LiteracyDr. Svetlana Cvetkovic is a passionate educator, researcher, and founder of Encoding Literacy. Dr. Cvetkovic shares her journey from a childhood love of Nancy Drew's books to becoming a literacy specialist committed to addressing the urgent issue of adult illiteracy in America.We'll delve into the importance of effectively using test results to improve education, the role of AI in customizing learning materials, and why personalized, evidence-based teaching methods are critical for overcoming reading difficulties. Dr. Cvetkovic will also discuss her innovative speech-first literacy approach and the potential of fMRI technology to advance our understanding of the...2025-01-0952 min
More Than A TestEquity and Excellence in Education: Dr. Bonita Jamison’s Approach at MRH SchoolsIn this episode, we explore MRH’s comprehensive strategic plan, "Honoring our history and shaping our future." We’ll touch on critical issues such as staff retention, made more challenging by the pandemic, and the importance of genuine community engagement that goes beyond simple board meetings. Dr. Jamison will share her reflections on influential books like "Jim Crow's Pink Slip" and "The Anxious Generation," which have shaped her approach to leadership.Dr. Jamison will also introduce us to MRH’s distinctive "looping" system, aimed at cultivating sustained relationships between students and educators, and the district's move toward...2024-12-191h 06
More Than A TestJerry Boyd on Mentorship, AI, and Addressing Social-Emotional Needs in EducationEducation is not just about testing; it’s about preparing students for life, with strong relationships and personalized learning.Jerry Boyd, Superintendent of Washington County Schools in Tennessee, discusses his innovative approach to education with host Jennie Tookoian. He emphasizes the importance of fostering sustainable mentor-student relationships and integrating AI into classrooms to enhance personalized learning. Jerry also outlines the district’s efforts to address post-pandemic challenges, particularly social-emotional needs, and introduces the newly implemented K-8 STEM curriculum. Jerry also reflects on his leadership journey, underscoring the value of teamwork and a philosophy of educa...2024-12-1247 min
More Than A TestSue Lemon’s Leadership: Overcoming Post-Pandemic Challenges in EducationEducation is more than just a test; it’s about nurturing the whole child and shaping the future.Sue Lemon, superintendent of Rosedale Union School District in Bakersfield, California. They discuss the challenges of supporting students' social-emotional needs, navigating political pressures, and addressing the ongoing effects of COVID-19.Sue shares the district's innovative approaches, including the Orton-Gillingham phonics method, Universal Design for Learning, and a focus on restorative practices. She also highlights efforts to close learning gaps, implement full-day kindergarten, and explore AI's role in education. Sue reflects on her personal journey and a symbolic st...2024-12-0552 min
More Than A TestDr. Michael Cardona on Transforming San Marcos CISD: AI, Parents, and LeadershipInnovation in education is more than just a test; it's about shaping the future. Dr. Michael Cardona, Superintendent of San Marcos CISD, shares how the district is transforming education through innovative curriculum, AI integration, and strategic partnerships. He discusses the challenges of vouchers, funding, and competition with private schools, as well as a groundbreaking coding pathway for students from low-income and bilingual backgrounds.Michael also highlights a successful collaboration with Texas State University, providing concurrent enrollment opportunities, and leadership programs designed to nurture internal talent post-COVID. He also reflects on the importance of c...2024-11-2842 min
More Than A TestHow Eric Hudspith’s Empathetic Leadership is Driving Growth in Rural SchoolsEducation is not just about what students know, but about who they become Dr. Eric Hudspith, the superintendent of Waseca Public Schools in Minnesota, and author of two books: Culture Driven Leadership and Creating a Culture of Success, has a career that spans from classroom teacher to district leader, He brings a deep understanding of the challenges facing small and rural school districts. Dr. Hudspith talks about his deep passion for literacy and the innovative teaching strategies he’s implemented in his district. He also opens up about the importance of teacher retention and the steps...2024-11-2150 min
More Than A TestBringing Generations Together: The Secret Behind Blue Earth Area Schools' Success“Seeing children as whole individuals goes far beyond standardized tests.”Mandy Fletcher, Superintendent shares her journey with Blue Earth Area Public Schools. Since 2019, she has faced financial crises, including a failed levy and budget cuts, while implementing innovative changes.Mandy highlights the introduction of a health science academy connecting students with local healthcare facilities and emphasizes community input, the READ Act's impact on literacy, and support for the growing Hispanic and Latino population.She also discusses how the pandemic reshaped family-school engagement, leading to creative community events. Tune in to discover how small dist...2024-10-2454 min
More Than A TestCreating Lifelong Learning: Dr. David Lawrence’s Vision for Dayton’s Future“Education is about more than just tests—it's about heart, perseverance, and community.”Dr. David Lawrence, superintendent of Dayton Public School, reflects on his extensive journey in education, from teaching and coaching to leading as a principal. He shares school leadership's emotional and physical demands and his dedication to teacher retention through competitive pay and support systems.As Dayton’s first locally-born superintendent, Dr. Lawrence has a deep personal connection to the community and discusses key projects under his leadership, such as the Welcome Stadium renovation. He emphasizes the importance of authentic leadersh...2024-10-1752 min
More Than A TestDr. Alex Marrero’s Vision: Making Education Fair for Everyone, Not Just About Graduation“Education is the foundation for equity, and every student deserves the opportunity to thrive.”Dr. Alex Marrero, Superintendent of Denver Public Schools, brings extensive experience in proactive leadership and community engagement. In this episode of "More Than A Test", he discusses the challenges and successes in transforming education in Colorado’s largest district. He shares his initiatives, such as forming a task force for local educational issues and establishing Community Hubs to support students and families. Dr.Marrero highlights the complexities of navigating political and financial pressures while advocating for marginalized communities. Through...2024-10-1051 min
More Than A TestBuilding a Better Tomorrow: Dana Addis on Emotional Growth & Learning Integration“Education is not just about tests and grades; it's about building meaningful connections and nurturing growth”Dana Addis, superintendent of Hudson City Schools talks about the impact of the Service Learning Program, the challenges of the teacher hiring process, and innovative projects like "Helping Hands."He discusses the district's obstacles, the crucial role of safety, and the importance of community and business partnerships.Dana shares his journey from teacher and coach to superintendent, his leadership philosophy, and the benefits of personalized education and social-emotional learning. Dana’s stories about his favorite literature, coachi...2024-10-0348 min
More Than A TestEnhancing Education with Patience and Data-Driven Tech: Insights from Ryan Baker“Ultimately, we don't want a society of people who are mediocre with all their flaws. We want people who are amazing at science.”Ryan Baker, an expert in AI and education, for a conversation that challenges perceptions and sparks personal growth. Ryan shares his method of spending 30 minutes daily learning something outside of his work, an approach that has inspired Laura. Together, they explore how AI is reshaping the classroom, providing immediate feedback for students and enhancing learning processes. From writing feedback to asset-based assessments, Ryan provides a thought-provoking look into the future of education and t...2024-09-2643 min
More Than A TestDr. Shawn Bird’s Mission: Fighting for Equity in San Antonio’s Schools“It's just more expensive to raise children, and so people move out to the suburbs”Dr. Shawn Bird, Deputy Superintendent of San Antonio Schools, discusses significant changes in the district, including the recent closure of 14 elementary schools and the efforts to serve over 45,000 students across more than 100 schools. Dr. Bird addresses the community's reaction to these closures, the strategic decisions behind them, and innovative solutions like improved mental health support and special education services. He shares insights from his extensive career in urban education, the effects of lower funding in Texas compared to ot...2024-09-1943 min
More Than A TestJeremy Roschelle Reveals: How to Balance AI Innovation and Classroom Caution“Educating teachers, parents, and students about AI is paramount for the future of education.”Jeremy Roschelle is a renowned expert in AI and education with extensive experience in promoting AI literacy. Jeremy has conducted groundbreaking research on AI applications in educational settings and is known for his insights into the integration of AI tools in schools.In this episode, he shares his expertise on the importance of AI education, the challenges of implementing AI in classrooms, and how to balance conceptual understanding with practical solutions. Jeremy also discusses AI’s potential to foster...2024-09-1250 min
More Than A TestRevolutionizing Schools: Erin Mote’s Vision for Collaborative EdTech“Interoperability in education is as crucial as hot water pipes in a building's infrastructure—the system needs to function seamlessly.“In today’s episode, Erin Mote, co-founder of Brooklyn Lab and a leader at InnovateEDU, dives into the transformative power of connecting organizations with school districts. She sheds light on the pivotal role of interoperability, privacy, and accessibility in EdTech.Erin recounts her experiences, from supporting military families to advancing special education, and explores the potential of AI in education. Throughout the discussion, she underscores the importance of evidence-based solutions for driving progress...2024-09-0553 min
More Than A TestFuture of Education: AI, Innovation, and Community with Jerry AlmendarezIn this episode, Jerry Almendarez, the dynamic Superintendent of the Santa Ana School District, shares his visionary insights on transforming education through innovation and community engagement. Jerry recounts how social media platforms like TikTok introduced him to emerging technologies such as OpenAI and ChatGPT, emphasizing the urgent need for public education to adapt to these innovations swiftly. He discusses the value of piloting AI platforms to enhance educational experiences and combat the mundane administrative tasks that often burden teachers, freeing them to engage in more meaningful interactions with students.Join us for this insightful episode a...2024-08-1545 min
More Than A TestBalancing AI and Human Touch in Education with Thomas C MurrayIn this episode, Laura Glaab and Thomas C. Murray dive deep into the intersection of AI and education. Listen in as Thomas shares his personal story of using a chat GPT to analyze his MRI results and discusses the implications of relying on AI for medical and educational purposes. They touch on the balance needed between technology and human connection, emphasizing the irreplaceable role of teachers and the importance of personalized, thoughtful engagement in the classroom.From his career journey in education to creating a virtual school, Thomas Murray opens up about his experiences and the support...2024-07-2557 min
More Than A TestThe Journey of Addison Davis From Hillsborough Success to National Impact in EducationToday, we have the pleasure of hosting an episode of "More Than a Test with Addison Davis," we dive deep into the world of education leadership with our esteemed guest, Addison Davis. Known for his remarkable journey as a superintendent in Hillsborough County, Addison's story is one of resilience, innovation, and unwavering dedication to improving education for all.Addison shares his experiences transforming Hillsborough's school district, balancing professional responsibilities with family life, and the critical role of humility and support from mentors like Alberto Carvalho. We'll explore his insights on using AI in education, the importance of...2024-07-1848 min
More Than A TestTransforming Public Schools: Don Haddad and Jackie Kapushion Discuss Their VisionIn today's episode, we are honored to have, Don Haddad and Jackie Kapushion, leaders in the St. Vrain Valley School District. We'll explore how high schools can prepare students for diverse post-graduation pathways, from college to vocational fields and the military. Our guests will also address the importance of learning durable skills beyond standardized tests, along with the challenges posed by reduced classroom time and four-day school weeks.Don and Jackie share their concerns about the politicization of public education and emphasize prioritizing students' needs. Don sheds light on his legislative efforts and the critical role public...2024-06-2856 min
More Than A TestDr. Josha Talison: Educational Leadership Rooted in Faith and CommunityIn today's episode, we are thrilled to have Dr. Josha Talison, the superintendent of Ecorse, Michigan, join us. Dr. Talison shares how his unwavering faith has guided his career, emphasizing that true leadership is about earning respect and loyalty. We'll explore the unique challenges of working in an inner-city school district with limited resources and how Dr. Talison leverages creativity and community support to provide exceptional educational opportunities for his students.From navigating the complexities of COVID-19 to redefining success beyond college degrees, Dr. Talison's insights are both inspiring and practical. Hear about his journey from a...2024-06-2152 min
More Than A TestThe Future of Education: Personal Passion and Mastery with Michael HornIn this episode, our host Laura Glaab sits down with Michael Horn, an educational enthusiast and expert known for his groundbreaking work in reimagining schools. Michael shares his personal mission to create a world where individuals can pursue their passions, fulfill their potential, and live a life of purpose. From discussing the influence of his experiences and collaborators, like Clay Christensen, to advocating for individualized learning plans and mastery-based education, Michael offers deep insights into the urgent need for innovation in education. Join us for an inspiring conversation on aligning work with pe...2024-06-1351 min
More Than A TestTransforming Education: AI Tools and Social Impact with Mary Jo MaddaWelcome to another episode of MTAT! Today, we have the pleasure of hosting Mary Jo Madda, a program lead for Education for Social Impact at Google. In this episode, Mary Jo delves into her work with high school students in programs like Code Next, which aims to break down barriers and provide access to quality computer science education for underrepresented communities. We'll explore the intersections of AI and education, discuss the importance of diverse voices in technology development, and get book recommendations like "Algorithms of Oppression" and "The Boys and Men." Mary Jo also reflects on her TED talk...2024-06-0653 min
More Than A TestBridging Barriers: Anna Marie Candelario's Journey to Supporting Educators in High Needs AreasIn this episode, host Laura Glaab sits down with the inspiring Anna Marie Candelario, who shares her incredible journey from struggling student to a leader in education. Anna Marie discusses her work in creating teacher pathways for special education in her district, highlighting the innovative Grow Your Own program aimed at addressing teacher shortages. Through mentorship and support, Anna Marie's program is ensuring that teachers in high needs areas receive the guidance and training they need to thrive. Join us as we delve into Anna Marie's transformative work and passion for humanizing ed...2024-05-3043 min
More Than A TestExpanding Career Horizons with Dr. David Miyashiro in More Than a TestIn today's episode, we're thrilled to be joined by Dr. David Miyashiro, the innovative superintendent of the Cajon School District in California. In this episode, hosted by Laura Glaab, we'll dive into Dr. Miyashiro's groundbreaking approach to education, which goes far beyond traditional test scores.From his initial drive to teach all students coding, to discovering the diverse career paths within a company like Qualcomm, Dr. Miyashiro has continually evolved his methods to expose students to myriad opportunities based on their strengths, interests, and values. We’ll explore the unique curriculum he's spearheaded, which not only narrows th...2024-05-2342 min
More Than A TestChristopher Hoffman: Building Future Through Educational LeadershipIn this episode, Christopher dives deep into the importance of seeing the humanity in everyone within the educational system, influenced heavily by key readings like Leadership and Self Deception by The Arbinger Institute. He'll share how these philosophies have transformed his leadership team and created a ripple effect throughout his community. With over 63,000 students and a plan to expand further, Christopher's leadership is steering the district through significant changes, including handling the pandemic's challenges and advancing educational practices.We'll also touch on the hefty task of managing rapid district growth, the strategic long-term planning of facilities, and...2024-05-1649 min
More Than A TestFuture-Proofing Education with Michael P. Nagler: Mineola’s Journey to InnovationIn today’s episode of More Than a Test, where today's focus shifts from conventional teaching methods to innovative educational strategies that promise a brighter future. We’re joined by a pivotal figure in educational reform, Michael P. Nagler, Ed.D., from Mineola School District. For over two decades, Dr. Nagler has been at the forefront of integrating technology with education and redefining student assessment. Today, we will dive into how his district not only adapted to asynchronous learning during the pandemic but thrived by fostering independence and a love for learning among students. Dr...2024-05-0947 min
More Than A TestBalancing Tech in Education: Insights from Laura Smith and Rainey BriggsIn this episode, titled Navigating Educational Transformation with AI and Human Insight, we will explore the crucial balances in the evolving landscape of education technology. Our guests will share their expertise and experiences on the implementation of AI within school systems, the vital role of human relationships in educational success, and the intricate dance of leading amidst rapid technological changes. Rainey will discuss how his district is poised to embrace these changes while focusing on community values and personalized education. Laura will shed light on the broader implications of AI and technology on district leadership, the importance of protecting...2024-05-0345 min
More Than A TestEducational Leadership and Change: A Conversation with Scott Eveslage and Aaron Bouie IIIIn this episode, we'll unpack two powerful conversations hosted by yours, Laura Glaab. First up, we're joined by Scott Eveslage, the innovative superintendent of the Hatboro-Horsham School District. Scott brings his rich experience as a special education teacher and school leader to the table, sharing stories that reveal the nuances of suburban schooling in Montgomery County and digging into the complexities of current educational challenges.As the dialog shifts, we're thrilled to welcome Aaron Bouie III, the insightful Chief Academic Officer from Youngstown, Ohio. Aaron's journey from a high school special education teacher to a leader in...2024-04-2524 min
More Than A TestAdam Swinyard: Increasing Graduation Rates and InclusivityI'm your host, Laura Glaab, and today we're joined by an exceptional guest, Dr. Adam Swinyard, representing Spokane Public Schools in Washington. With a district that serves around 30,000 students, Dr. Swinyard has a wealth of experience to share about the impact of teachers, districts, and the community at large on shaping young lives.In this conversation, we're tackling the pressing issue of student engagement – or the troubling lack thereof in today's digital age. How do we as educators, parents, and community members rekindle the excitement for learning? Adam will share his insights on practical strategies to combat di...2024-04-1845 min
More Than A TestLeading with Authenticity: Education Insights from Dr. Bret Schroder & Dr. Paul GausmanIn this episode, Dr. Schroder opens up about the obstacles he encountered advocating for children and the personal wisdom he's gained along the way, including invaluable insights from Brene Brown's Daring to Lead. His journey from a minority-majority school district to his current position at Schuyler Community Schools highlights his commitment to diversity and ensuring every child has equal opportunities.Dr. Gausman offers us two decades of experience as a superintendent, sharing the intricacies of education funding, school culture, and the external forces that impact our schools. Both superintendents discuss the hot topic of snow day decisions...2024-04-1141 min
More Than A TestAI in Education: An Interview with Jeff Curtis McCoy, Associate Superintendent of AcademicsIn this episode, we dive into an engaging interview with Jeff Curtis McCoy, the associate superintendent of academics in Greenville County Public Schools. Tune in as Jeff discusses the highlights from a conference in San Diego, delving into topics such as networking, challenges in education, and the shift towards personalized learning with the integration of artificial intelligence. Host Laura Glaab leads a thought-provoking conversation that covers everything from the impact of AI on personalized learning to the best advice Jeff ever received and a recommended must-read book. Get ready for an episode packed with valuable insights and e...2024-04-0420 min
More Than A TestBig District, Shrinking Budget- The FWISD community depends on Superintendent Dr. Angélica M. RamseyIn today’s episode with Dr. Angélica M. Ramsey, we explore the nuances of educational leadership, the joy of driving student success, the pressure of confronting an often rigid system, and the impact of fiscal constraints on critical programs. Dr. Ramsey shares her frustrations and fears, such as the prospect of losing freshman success coaches, and her pride in achievements, such as the impact of family engagement specialists.Join us through the complexities of steering a district in today's environment, from addressing the COVID slide to finding joy and strength in the job. Dr. Ramsey brings a b...2024-03-2829 min
More Than A TestGoing Beyond the Grade: Dr. Mervin Daugherty on Rethinking Student SuccessIn this episode, we navigate through many thought-provoking topics with Dr. Daugherty, whose insights remind us that there is so much more to each individual than what appears on a test. From discussing the influence of The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership on his approach to fostering a family-like environment in his district, to why he believes Leaders Eat Last is a must-read for those keen on leadership growth, Dr. Daugherty shares his profound experiences and the principles that shape his actions.Chesterfield's dedication to the well-being and advancement of its 65,000 students goes beyond the numbers. Dr. Daugherty...2024-03-2131 min
More Than A TestLeadership Lessons: A Conversation with Superintendent Alberto M. CarvalhoIn this insightful episode of MTAT, host Laura Glaab sits down with the esteemed educator, Alberto M. Carvalho, the Superintendent of the Los Angeles Unified School District. The conversation delves into the importance of research-based practices in education, the impact of effective teaching on student success, and the challenges and victories faced in leading a massive school district.Carvalho shares personal anecdotes, wisdom from his father, and thought-provoking recommendations, offering a glimpse into his leadership philosophy and the powerful journey that has shaped his approach to education. Tune in for a compelling discussion on leadership, h...2024-03-1425 min
More Than A TestBridging Gaps with AI: Frank Esposito on Innovative Education SolutionsIn this episode, we'll explore the innovative ways Frank and his team are tackling staffing shortages, embracing technology, and creating impactful educational interventions without additional staff. We'll uncover the compelling story of their adoption of the Amira learning platform to support student literacy in a groundbreaking way.Frank shares anecdotes, from his challenges in learning to read fluently to the pivotal moments in his career that have shaped his leadership style. These moments include eye-opening international experiences and transformative initiatives back home.With the intimate details of Frank's journey from finance to...2024-03-0751 min
More Than A TestKirsten Baesler: Shaping the Future of North Dakota's SchoolsIn today's episode, our host Laura Glaab engages in an insightful conversation with Kirsten. Baesler, the passionate and driven Superintendent of Public Instruction for North Dakota.As we sit down with Kirsten, who has triumphantly stood at the helm of North Dakota's educational leadership for the last 12 years, we'll unpack her commitment to the state's unique collective purchasing power strategy, designed to empower small districts through a unified negotiation approach.From her days as a teacher's aide to the awe-inspiring ascent to state superintendent, Kirsten shares her profound journey through the various tiers of educational...2024-02-2944 min
More Than A TestShaping the Future: Tom Vander Ark on Empowering the Next GenerationIn this episode, we have the privilege of speaking with an influential voice in the world of education, Tom Vander Ark. As the CEO of Getting Smart, Tom brings his rich experience as a former executive director at the Gates Foundation and a public school superintendent to the table, sharing nuances of educational transformation you won't want to miss.Tom offers insights into why advanced educational technologies haven't made the expected impact on student outcomes, especially for those in need, and highlights the importance of access, implementation, and leadership in bridging that divide.Join us...2024-02-2252 min
More Than A TestThe Art of Storytelling in a Tech-Driven World: Insights from Dr. Berger and Mark AngelIn this episode, we sit down with the insightful Dr. Rod Berger and the CEO of Amira Learning, Mark Angel.Join us as we explore how storytelling transcends mere product features and can create compelling connections that last. We'll reflect on the influence of visionaries like Elon Musk, who inspires us to dream big and tackle global issues. Mark and Dr. Berger will weigh in on the incredible power of storytelling in business and education, discussing its role in uniting people and fostering sustainable practices.We'll also dive into the transformation of education with AI's...2024-02-1557 min
More Than A TestDr. Molly Ness: The Impact of Read-Alouds on Vocabulary, Comprehension, and Reading SkillsIn this episode, we have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Molly Ness, an expert in literacy and education. Dr. Ness shares her insights on the mismatch between the abundance of available texts and the challenge of presenting complex topics in a manner suitable for children. Throughout the conversation, she emphasizes the importance of diversity in picture books, the value of untold stories, and the impact of read-alouds on language comprehension, vocabulary, and overall literacy skills. Dr. Ness offers practical advice for educators on planning for read-alouds, drawing from compelling research and her rich experience in the field. Tune...2024-02-0944 min
More Than A TestThe Humanity of Teaching: Lessons from Kareem WeaverIn this episode, our host Laura Glaab sits down with the inspiring Kareem Weaver to delve into the profound importance of love in education and its impact on enduring and implementing successful educational practices. We explore Kareem's journey from being a teacher to becoming a principal and his unwavering dedication to helping students succeed. Throughout the conversation, Kareem emphasizes the need for educators to let go of baggage, be vulnerable, and work together to create a culture of honesty and growth. Join us as we uncover the critical role of literacy in achieving equity and access to human rights...2024-02-021h 07
More Than A TestLeading Through Diversity: Education Challenges in Oakland with Dr. Kyla Johnson-TrammellIn today's episode, our host Laura Glaab engages in an insightful conversation with Dr. Kyla Johnson-Trammell, the superintendent of Oakland Unified School District. Together, they navigate through the complexities of education and leadership, exploring the challenges and opportunities of serving a diverse student population in an ever-changing landscape.Throughout the episode, Laura and Dr. Johnson-Trammell discuss the nuanced issues that arise within education, from addressing the needs of socioeconomically disadvantaged students and newcomers to advocating for inclusive leadership and fostering partnerships. Dr. Johnson-Trammell shares her perspective on the need to teach essential skills such as creativity and...2024-01-2651 min
More Than A TestAngelica Infante Green: The Means to Do It All When Leading Education for a State with AspirationsIn this episode, we have the honor of sitting down with Angelica Infante-Green, the passionate and resilient state commissioner for Rhode Island. We were able to have the amazing opportunity to explore her remarkable experiences and insights. As a dedicated educator and parent, Infante-Green shares how her personal and professional life intertwine, and how her family, especially her courageous daughter, inspires her to confront challenges with unwavering determination. From her tenure as a school principal in New York City to her transformative role in Providence's education system, Infante-Green’s unwavering commitment to excellence and equity shines through. Join us as...2024-01-1942 min
More Than A TestSuccesses and Challenges of the PAF Reading Program with Magdalena ZavaliaIn this episode, host Laura Glaab engages in an enriching conversation with the CEO of the PAF reading program, Magdalena Zavalia. Together, they explore the challenges and triumphs of bilingual education, the importance of effective literacy programs for Spanish-speaking students, and the impact of government intervention on education. Zavalia shares her journey from a successful law career to becoming an advocate for empowering teachers and improving reading instruction. Join us as we uncover the crucial role of commitment, long-term support, and culturally responsive teaching methods in shaping successful literacy initiatives. This episode offers a deep dive into the PAF...2024-01-1246 min
More Than A TestUnveiling the World of Children's Literature with Peter BrownIn this episode, our host Laura Glaab sits down with the talented author and illustrator Peter Brown to explore his incredible journey from aspiring animator to award-winning children's author. Join us as Brown shares the unexpected success of "Creepy Carrots" and the Horn Book award-winning "Mr. Tiger Goes Wild." Delve into the inspiration behind his popular "Wild Robot" series and learn about his thoughts on technology and AI, the impact of his books on readers, and the emotional experiences shared by teachers and students. Discover the intricacies of crafting children's literature, and gain insights into Brown’s wri...2023-12-2145 min
More Than A TestMotivating Adolescents: Respect, Status, and the Power of Mentoring with Ron BergerIn today's episode, we have a special guest, Ron Berger, joining host Laura Glaab. Ron Berger is a highly respected figure in education, known for his work in student-centered learning and character development. With a wealth of experience, he has served as a teacher, written books on improving teaching and learning, and played a pivotal role in the success of Yale Education (formerly Expeditionary Learning). In this conversation, Glaab and Berger delve into the importance of motivation and respect in working with adolescents. They explore the idea that tough love and coddling are not effective approaches, but...2023-12-0155 min
More Than A TestThe Logic of English: Revolutionizing Reading Instruction with Denise EideIn today's episode, we have a special guest with us, Denise Eide, the CEO of Logic of English. Eide has a fascinating background as a former teacher turned CEO, and her company operates uniquely, focusing on providing great products and support without sales pressure.In this episode, we'll dive into Eide's journey from teacher to CEO and how she discovered the logic of English. We'll also explore the powerful impact her book, "Logic of English," has had on educators and readers alike. Eide will share her insights into teaching phonics and challenging common beliefs about reading instruction. W...2023-11-1746 min
More Than A TestLeading the Charge: Dr. Tauheedah Baker-Jones on Equity Work and Breaking Barriers in EducationIn today's episode, host Laura Glaab is joined by a true education trailblazer, Dr. Tauheedah Baker-Jones. As the Chief Equity and Social Justice Officer for Atlanta Public Schools, Tauheedah shares her remarkable journey, from her initial desire to become a principal to her love for teaching and commitment to creating an inclusive environment for all students and families. She leads with grace, compassion, and a deep understanding of the challenges in education, Baker-Jones navigates the complex world of emotions and polarizing politics, advocating for what is best for children and fostering constructive conversations. Join u...2023-11-1047 min
More Than A TestBridging Languages: Supporting Bilingual Students for Success in Reading and BeyondToday we have a very special guest joining us. Dr. Doris Baker, a renowned expert in bilingual education, is here to share her insights and experiences on supporting English learners, especially those from Latino backgrounds. From her experiences teaching Spanish at all levels to her groundbreaking research on the connections between Spanish and English language skills, Dr. Baker has dedicated her career to helping children develop bilingual and bi-literate abilities. In today's episode, we'll delve into the Science of Reading, the importance of culturally relevant books, and the challenges and successes of bilingual education models. Get ready f...2023-11-0349 min
More Than A TestColorado's Education Landscape: Exploring Diversity and Challenges with Susana CordovaIn today's episode, we have a very special guest joining us, Susana Cordova. Susana is an accomplished educator and advocate for educational reform, currently serving as the Commissioner of Education of Colorado's public schools. We dive into a wide range of topics, including the significance of treating people with respect during job changes, the importance of building strong foundations in early literacy, and the need for support for children learning English as a second language. Susana also shares her insights on navigating the complexities of being a superintendent and the challenges faced in retaining teachers in Colorado's rapidly changing...2023-10-2746 min
More Than A TestLead by Listening: Lessons from Dr. Shannon Trejo on Teacher Support and CollaborationIn today's episode, we have a very special guest joining us: Dr. Shannon Trejo. Dr. Trejo shares insights and experiences as the Chief Academic Officer at Dallas ISD, such as the importance of being visible in “the work” and actively supporting teachers and campus leaders. We'll dive into topics such as the science of reading, student success, and the challenges faced in education. Dr. Trejo will also shed light on the progress made in Dallas ISD and the strategies implemented to ensure that high-quality instructional resources reach all students. So sit back, relax, and get ready to explo...2023-10-2042 min
More Than A TestNurturing Students' Social and Emotional Growth with Dr. Scott Muri & Jaime MillerIn today's episode, we have a dynamic duo joining us, Dr. Scott Muri and Jaime Miller, of Ector County Independent School District. From engaging in extracurricular activities to navigating political distractions, Dr. Muri and Jaime Miller reveal the intentional work they are doing to prioritize the needs of their students. Alongside our host, Laura Glaab, they explore the power of mentorship, strategies for funding crucial programs, and the importance of always looking ahead. Get ready for an inspiring conversation that showcases the incredible transformations happening within Ector County. So grab your headphones and get ready to dive i...2023-10-131h 02
More Than A TestCracking the Code: Dr. Brianna Yamasaki Reveals the Secrets of Reading in Different LanguagesIn this episode, we are joined by the brilliant Dr. Brianna Yamasaki, an expert in the field of bilingualism and literacy. Dr. Yamasaki shares insights into the challenges and advantages of bilingual education, focusing on the importance of understanding language abilities in young children.Dr. Yamasaki's work highlights the disparities within the US education system when it comes to supporting multilingualism. With a diverse classroom of students, some raised in monolingual English environments and others from bilingual homes or schools, she delves into the complexities of ensuring equitable education for all. Whether you're an educator, a parent...2023-10-0650 min
More Than A TestLeading with Purpose with Dr. Susan Enfield & The Journey to Becoming SuperintendentIn today's episode, we have the honor of speaking with Dr. Susan Enfield, a highly accomplished superintendent with a deep passion for education. Dr. Enfield shares valuable insights on the importance of executive function capabilities, self-regulation, and building strong connections within school communities. We delve into her strategic plan for the Washoe County School District and the transformative impact it will have on students' lives. Join us as we explore her journey, her motivation, and her dedication to creating a positive and nurturing environment for all students.Timestamps[00:00:57] Reno has about 60,000 students with diverse backgrounds2023-09-2941 min
More Than A TestThe Essential Role Parents Play in Student Success with Superintendent Iranetta WrightIn today's episode, we are honored to have special guest Iranetta Wright, Superintendent & CEO of Cincinnati Public Schools, joining our host Laura Glaab. Wright shares her insights on the importance of parents and caregivers in the school-home connection, emphasizing the need for engagement and involvement in both positive and negative aspects of a student's education. She also discusses her experiences and successes in transforming the Detroit school district, implementing programs that prioritize student experiences, and leveling the playing field for all. Wright opens up about her journey as a first-generation college student, her struggles as a working m...2023-09-2247 min
More Than A TestFrom Phonics to Fluency: Exploring the Nuances of Reading Development with Dr. Claude GoldenbergIn today's episode, we have a special guest joining us, Dr. Claude Goldenberg, a renowned expert in the field of literacy development. This conversation is packed with insightful information and thought-provoking discussions about the stages of reading development, the importance of foundational skills, and the impact of bilingual education. From understanding the nuances of reading progression to the challenges and opportunities in teaching literacy, we dive deep into the intricacies of the reading journey. So grab your headphones and prepare to expand your knowledge on the multifaceted world of reading, because this is More Than a Test w...2023-09-151h 01
More Than A TestTechnology's Role in Creating Equitable Access for One-on-One Teaching with Kyron LearningIn this episode, our host Laura Glaab sits down with Rajen Sheth, CEO & Co-Founder of Kyron Learning. They discuss the transformative power of education and the innovative use of technology to enhance learning. Rajen takes us on a journey exploring the realm of personalized tutoring and its potential to provide equitable access to education. As they delve into the importance of authenticity in education and the challenges of adoption and product-market fit, they uncover fascinating insights into the impact and effectiveness of their work. Join us as we dive into education, AI, and the pursuit of empowering s...2023-09-0847 min
More Than A TestEmbracing Word Problems in Math: Building Skills and Engagement for Lifelong LearningIn today's episode, Nadia Madan Morrow joins us to share her insights on the grade-level text and tasks, urging educators to explore innovative methods, such as incorporating word problems into math lessons. Nadia, who has a strong coaching background and a wealth of experience in Denver Public Schools, emphasizes the need to scaffold and differentiate within classrooms, ensuring that no student is left behind.She also reveals valuable strategies to facilitate effective communication, including paraphrasing and practicing deep breathing techniques to stay calm during difficult conversations. Nadia later opens up about her involvement in a major project...2023-09-0153 min
More Than A TestHealing Through Laughter: Turning Painful Memories into Stories Worth SharingIn today's episode, we'll explore the power of storytelling and how it can give voice to the untold stories and unspoken experiences of individuals. We'll learn how Ruta Sepetys, initially hesitant to share their writing, embarked on a journey to discover their family's untold story and ended up creating a novel that became a New York Times bestseller.Sepetys’ transition from the music industry to writing was not an easy one, but their former music clients supported their decision and encouraged them to pursue their passion. We'll hear about the challenges and triumphs they faced while slowly tr...2023-08-2540 min
More Than A TestUnleashing the Potential of AI in the Classroom and How it Will Impact TeachersIn today's episode, we are joined by Hailey Carter, an educator with a unique journey and a passion for making a difference in students' lives. Hailey shares her experiences of being inspired by her students within the confines of the classroom, but also realizing the limitations of traditional teaching methods. Later on, Hailey discovered the potential to scale her impact globally, reaching students beyond the walls of her own classroom. Join us as Hailey discusses her excitement about the opportunity to make a different type of impact in emerging markets and how partnering with actively involved founders i...2023-08-2553 min
More Than A TestBridging the Gap to Empower Educators to Advocate for English LearnersIn today's episode, we are joined by a special guest, Shelly Spiegel-Coleman, as we dive into the world of education advocacy and the power of collective action. Shelly is a seasoned advocate and the president of an organization that has been making waves in the education sector. We'll explore how their organization started, their impact on policy changes, and the importance of supporting English learners. From the successes to the challenges faced along the way, Shelly paints a vivid picture of what it means to be part of a community dedicated to uplifting the needs of students....2023-08-1850 min
More Than A TestFrom Chief Academic Officer to Superintendent: Dr. Maria Vazquez’s Journey in Transforming EducationIn this episode, we are thrilled to have Dr. Maria Vazquez, an esteemed educator and the Superintendent of Orange County Public Schools. Join our host, Laura Glaab, as she delves into Dr. Vazquez's incredible journey, from initially planning to retire as the Chief Academic Officer to embracing the opportunity to become the Superintendent. Together, they discuss the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic and examine the potential for transformation in education. Dr. Vazquez shares her insights on engaging parents, dealing with emotional situations, and the importance of focusing on individual students within the larger organization. She reveals...2023-08-1150 min
More Than A TestHealing Through Laughter: Turning Painful Memories into Stories Worth SharingIn today's episode, we'll explore the power of storytelling and how it can give voice to the untold stories and unspoken experiences of individuals. We'll learn how Ruta Sepetys, initially hesitant to share their writing, embarked on a journey to discover their family's untold story and ended up creating a novel that became a New York Times bestseller.Sepetys’ transition from the music industry to writing was not an easy one, but their former music clients supported their decision and encouraged them to pursue their passion. We'll hear about the challenges and triumphs they faced while slowly tr...2023-08-0240 min
More Than A TestAddressing the Systemic Issues in Education with Kimberly VaughtOn this episode of More Than a Test, we delve into the systemic issues facing education and the need for change. Our special guest, Kimberly Vaught, takes us on a journey through the "Reading Wars" and the evolving approaches to teaching reading. We explore the science of reading, which is both a science and an art, and the challenges of teaching adult learning theory. Kimberly discusses the importance of improving pre-service training for teachers in colleges and universities and building skills and capacity for educators. We also learn about the crucial role communities play in supporting educational frameworks and...2023-07-2847 min
More Than A TestGame-Changing Growth: The Impact of Strategic Targeting in EducationOn this episode of More Than a Test, host Laura Glaab welcomes special guest Jack Mostow to discuss his fascinating work in the field of intelligent tutoring systems and the impact has on education. Jack begins by sharing his experience working on a campus as a social service and how his passion for intelligent tutoring systems was sparked. Throughout the episode, Jack touches on various experiences and encounters that shaped his understanding and passion. He highlights the importance of improving reading skills for struggling students and discusses his own experience working as a reading tutor in schools....2023-07-2153 min
More Than A TestCoaching, Support, and Time: The Key Ingredients for Effective Resource Implementation with Patricia Montes PateOn this episode of More Than a Test, host Laura Glaab welcomes guest Patricia Montes Pate to discuss teachers' challenges when implementing new resources in the classroom. They delve into the complex ELA framework and how it often remains unused due to a lack of time for teachers to fully understand it. Patricia highlights the need for coaching and support to effectively integrate new resources and emphasizes the importance of time in this process. They also explore a teaching model that supports English learners in Silicon Valley, which can be applied across the state and nation. The model focuses...2023-07-1440 min
More Than A TestPersonalized Learning and the Role of Technology for the Future of Education with Arun SaigalOn this episode of More Than a Test, host Laura Glaab is joined by guest Arun Saigal to delve into the importance of decision-making, the power of community in product development, and the potential of EdTech and AI. Arun shares his own journey of choosing a career path, highlighting the significance of committing to a decision and trusting your gut. He also discusses the impact of block-based programming in learning to code and building mobile apps. Arun explains how his company, thunkable, stands out by focusing on academic research in an educational context and involving the community...2023-07-0750 min
More Than A TestExploring the Systemic Resistance to Gender Equality in Education Leadership with Julia Rafal-BaerOn this episode of More Than a Test, host Laura Glaab is joined by Julia Rafal-Baer, an advocate for women in educational leadership. They discuss the challenges faced by women in education, including the lack of representation in top leadership positions and the bias they encounter throughout their careers. Julia shares her own experiences and the initiatives she has started, such as Women Leading Ed and the Forum for Educational Leadership, to support women in advancing their careers. They also highlight the need for systemic changes in the education system to better support and promote women leaders...2023-06-3054 min
More Than A TestFrom Research-First to Capacity Building: The Evolution of EdTech with Karl RectanusOn this episode of More Than a Test, Laura Glaab sits down with Karl Rectanus, the creator of LearnPlatform, to discuss the challenges and rewards of making a difference in education. Coming from a family of educators, Rectanus recognized the need to make a big impact in education due to the industry's significant equity challenges. He shares his story of creating LearnPlatform and how it became a game-changing EdTech effectiveness system used by school districts and states to vet products for compliance with student data privacy laws. Additionally, they discuss the importance of understanding and analyzing evidence and effectiveness...2023-06-2345 min
More Than A TestChallenging the One-Size-Fits-All Model of Education with Thomas ArnettOn this episode of More Than a Test, host Laura Glaab interviews Thomas Arnett, a Senior Research Fellow at the Clayton Christensen Institute. Arnett shares his journey as a former Teach for America middle school math teacher who sought to revolutionize the education system. He discusses his work with Clayton Christensen's Institute for Disruptive Innovation and how the "Jobs to Be Done" framework can be applied to understand why teachers adopt new instructional practices. Arnett also introduces the Mastery Transcript Consortium and offers insight into standards-based or competency-based grading to promote objectivity and progress. The episode concludes...2023-06-1648 min
More Than A TestCreating An Easier Teaching Pathway for Aspiring Teachers with Jennifer JordanCreating An Easier Teaching Pathway for Aspiring TeachersIn this episode of the More Than a Test podcast, Jennifer Jordan explains how TeachStart creates a pathway into teaching for people who want to teach but don’t have the opportunity, plus her passion for ensuring all kids have great teachers. Jenny is the Executive Director at TeachStart and formerly COO at Teach for America Bay Area. She excels at leading high-performance teams and helping schools to grow and succeed.Listen in to learn the importance of improving teaching conditions for the benefit of both teachers an...2023-06-0939 min
More Than A TestImproving Teaching for Stakeholders with High-Quality Research with Todd GrindalIn this episode of the More Than a Test podcast, Todd Grindal, Associate Center Director and Principal Senior Researcher at SRI Education discusses the organization's work in education-focused research and technical assistance. He also shares his personal journey and views on dyslexia.SRI Education conducts high-quality research, builds capacity through technical assistance, and develops innovative tools that improve teaching and accelerate and deepen learning. In this episode, Todd discusses how curriculum developers can make it easy and straightforward for teachers to use tech tools and programs. He also talks about the tools, support, and understanding available today...2023-06-0249 min
More Than A TestConnecting Solutions Across Research, Practice, And Technology with Jean-Claude BrizardIn this episode of the More Than a Test podcast, Jean-Claude Brizard talks about the impact of technology in the education system and the importance of engaging parents as equal partners in tech efforts. Jean-Claude is a former educator and school superintendent. He is now the President and CEO of Digital Promise. Digital Promise shapes the future of learning and advances equitable education systems by bringing together solutions across research, practice, and technology. Listen in to learn the importance of making research usable and actionable for the educator when creating learning technology. You will also learn the...2023-05-2636 min
More Than A TestScience Of Reading: Scientific Evidence Base for Effective Reading with Kari KurtoIn this episode of the More Than a Test podcast, Kari Kurto talks about the science of learning and how she developed a passion for education. Kari is the National Science of Reading Project Director at The Reading League, a nonprofit organization that aims to advance the awareness, understanding, and use of evidence-aligned reading instruction. Listen in to learn how to build knowledge around the science of reading as an educator and then impact students beyond the classroom. You will also learn how to build a reading foundation for kids to decode and encode letters for them...2023-05-1948 min
More Than A TestThe Role and Impact of EdTech in the Education System with Amit PatelIn this episode of the More Than a Test podcast, Amit Patel talks about topics like the role of EdTech in education and how his company is investing in this sector, globally. Amit is the Managing Director at Owl Ventures, a venture capital fund that invests in the world's leading education technology companies. He is deeply committed to creating sustainable and higher-quality education solutions. Listen in to learn about the growth of EdTech over the last decade, plus how the pandemic introduced more people and institutions to what is possible with EdTech. You will also learn the...2023-05-1253 min
More Than A TestFinding Success in Venture Capital and Philanthropy with Steve CarnevaleIn this episode of the More Than a Test podcast, we have Steve Carnevale talk about his venture capital and philanthropy journeys, plus his role in improving education for kids with learning differences. Steve is a venture capitalist and the founder and co-chairman of the UCSF Dyslexia Center, which translates neuroscience to enable precision education.Listen in to learn how neuroscience and technology are working to improve education for kids with learning differences like dyslexia. You will also learn the importance of building skills, being curious and open-minded, and watching for opportunities to prepare yourself for successful...2023-05-0549 min
More Than A TestIntroducing More Than a TestOur goal is to take a hard look at the shortcomings in literacy education and tech while still finding a sense of hope in what's possible in education through learning and technology.Our guests include non-profit leaders, tech CEOs, state and district leadership, research leaders from top institutions, and a few teachers with stories that might bring you to tears.Hosted by Laura Glaab, VP of Strategy at Amira Learning. She is a lifetime educator following behind educator parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.She's worked as a teacher and leader in...2023-04-2701 min