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This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Future of AI [Report]
Joe and Robert break down Mary Meeker's "Future of AI" report and discuss the biggest opportunities and threats for marketers and creators in the future. Disney sues Midjourney in yet another lawsuit against AI companies. When will it stop and why should we care? And Meta invests $15 billion more in AI, trying to catch up in the AI race. In winners and losers, Joe discusses how to get found in AI searches and Robert talks about the failed mainstream media with the LA coverage. Rants and raves include a new creator...
2025-06-13
1h 10
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
AI Blackmail, Layoffs and Hot Yoga
AI is again in the headlines this week with Anthropic announcing that its AI will do anything to survive...even bust you for cheating on your wife. AI layoffs are starting to hit home. It's almost to the point that people are being laid off "by" AI itself. Joe and Robert uncover the truth. Rand Fishkin discusses 10 ways to understand no-click search...and it's mostly stuff we can actually do. And long live print, as Microsoft launches a new print publication. Winners and losers include LinkedIn commenting and Duolingo. ...
2025-05-30
1h 17
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Sam and Elon's Billionaire Pillow Fight (476)
The boys are back with news that OpenAI (led by Sam Altman) is considering a social media platform that may compete with Elon's Twitter/X. Let's face it...we know what this is really about. Joe and Robert bring it home for you. META's big lawsuit with the FTC gets started. Did Zuckerberg grease the skids enough to get this one through? Creator Economy jobs (aka content marketing) are up, up, up. Why is that? And the top Gen AI use cases don't involve marketing. Marketing winners and losers include databases...
2025-04-18
1h 15
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Into the Dumbery
Possibly our dumbest episode yet. Joe and Robert go deep into the dumbery to try to make sense of an incredibly weird (and dumb) week. TikTok is for sale. No it's not. Maybe it is. Will we know this week? Elon Musk merges his two companies into one, creating the dumbest valuation in the history of corporate mergers. And META's AI steals a bunch of copyrighted books. Heck, they've probably already stolen this podcast. Marketing losers include vibe marketing and Hooters. Raves and commentary include Gartner and...
2025-04-04
1h 09
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The 5 Keys to Content Marketing Success [Special Episode]
A very special episode on what makes a successful content marketer or content creator. Robert and Joe talk about what works today to successfully build and monetize an audience with these five keys. 1. For marketers, setting a clear goal up front - sales, savings or sunshine and then find a measurement tool that aligns with current corporate measurement. From the creator side, what's my goal? You exit at the beginning. 2. What's the show for your particular audience AND is it consistent AND is it (or will it be) indispensable? To the point - do I...
2025-03-28
49 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Is Sora a Game Changer for Marketers and Creators?
The first ever This Old Marketing where both Robert and Joe are NOT recording at the same time. If anything, you'll get a kick out of this episode for that reason. TikTok is in the news again. Does the impending ban and their emergency motion mean anything at all? Ad giant Omnicom merges with Interpublic in a $13 billion dollar deal. And OpenAI releases Sora, increasing the fight over generative AI video. Winners and losers include print catalogs and the Starbucks origin story. Rants and raves include an article from...
2024-12-13
47 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Unconventional Content Marketing Strategies [Special Episode]
Another very special episode of This Old Marketing...this time, without Robert Rose. Yes...this episode features Joe Pulizzi talking about unconventional content marketing strategies for 2025. Joe discusses how to leverage ChatGPT for persona building, treating employees as creators, leveraging more email and physical events, a big yes to print and much, much more. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. ...
2024-11-29
42 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Valuable Friction [Special Episode] (455)
A special This Old Marketing podcast episode featuring the one and only Robert Rose (with no Joe Pulizzi). In this special solo episode, Robert takes a deep dive into the state of marketing as we approach the end of 2024. As marketers, we’ve spent the last 25 years adapting to paradigm-shifting technologies — from the internet and social media to mobile computing. But now, we’re navigating the latest disruptor: Generative AI. Robert explores the concept of "Valuable Friction," the deliberate resistance that slows us down, fostering critical thinking and creativity. In an industry obsessed with efficiency and aut...
2024-11-22
43 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Four Secret Questions [Special Episode]
In this special episode Robert and Joe ask each other four secret questions. The answers will surprise you. The boys cover investing, travel, biggest regrets, bigger dreams and what's next in marketing and beyond. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product updates to make impossible growth feel impossibly easy. Like Breeze — a suite of new AI-powered tools that help you say goodbye to busywork and hello to bett...
2024-11-15
56 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
2025 Content Marketing Trends [Special Episode] (451)
The boys go deep into CMI's 2025 content marketing research report. While the results look pretty similar to last year's report, Joe and Robert offer some prescriptions for 2025 content marketing strategies, including: Think more local in 2025 Who's your "with"? Paid promotion of content for the win Less is more Time to kill some things Let's get risky in 2025 See the full research here. ----- This week's sponsor: With smaller budgets and sky-high expectations — growth is feeling pretty painful right now. But HubSpot just announced more than 200 major product up...
2024-10-25
49 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Humans No Longer Needed for Audio?
Joe and Robert unpack Google's NotebookLM and how the AI audio machine has taken over the internet. Listen to the sample and see if you think it's usable. In other Google news, the DOJ is trying to break up Google into smaller pieces for better competition. This happens at the same time Google is losing its strength in the search market. And someone used Meta's glasses to instantly dox strangers. Should we be scared? Yes...yes we should. Winners and losers include Mountain Dew and Wordpress. Rants and raves include TikTok...
2024-10-11
1h 10
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Your Content Marketing Questions Are Answered [Special Episode]
A special episode of This Old Marketing where Joe and Robert answer AI and content marketing questions from some of the world leaders of marketing. Find your answers to content marketing spending, how AI is affecting content marketing, advice for new marketers, how to handle a personal brand in a business, how much to invest into internal content creators and much, much more. Special thanks to our marketing experts: Drew Davis Katie Brinkley Mark Schaefer Rob LaLacheur Ann Handley Brian Piper Michael Stelzner A. Lee Judge ----- This week's sponsor:
2024-10-04
55 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Will OpenAI's Seeds Grow a Strawberry Harvest?
OpenAI launches the "Strawberry" version within ChatGPT claiming better reasoning and complex thinking. Joe and Robert take it to the test. TikTok heads back to court with a January 19th ban date looming. Joe predicts what will happen. And Instagram launches a version for teens only. Is it enough? Finally, MrBeast "leaks" his personal YouTube production manual. Is there gold within? Winners and losers include Sun Studio and the 2024 Content Marketing Award winner. Rants and raves include MAICON's headsets and CMI's marketing career study. ----- ...
2024-09-20
1h 15
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
How We Use AI for Content and Marketing [Special Episode]
In this special episode, Joe and Robert talk about the future of AI in marketing and how each of them use AI for both content creation and marketing ideation. ----- This week's sponsor: Grow better, faster with Hubspot's all-in-one intuitive customer platform - Hubspot.com/ ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to J...
2024-09-13
57 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
What Content Marketers Can Learn from the DNC
The boys review how the DNC has courted creators and developed "content moments" that are going viral. Chick-Fil-A just launched a streaming strategy and Procreate vows to never leverage generative AI. Wins and losses include the Savannah Bananas and Snoop Dogg. Rants and raves include Robert's take on DNC creators while Joe talks about the NSYNC and Deadpool integration. ----- This week's links: The DNC Finally "Gets" Content Chick-Fil-A Launches Streaming Service Procreate Says No to Gen AI Snoop & Solo Brands...
2024-08-23
1h 06
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
X Goes Full Idiot Mode in Suing Advertisers
In a desperation move, X decides the best way to get advertisers back to the platform is to sue them. In obvious news, a judge rules that Google is an illegal monopoly. The boys talk about what the repercussions are with this ruling, and what Apple's role will be. Speaking of Google (and X), Google ads seem to be popping up on Elon's platform. Curious indeed. In winners and losers, the Harris campaign is kicking butt on social while the Army fails with The Rock. In rants and raves, Robert changes...
2024-08-09
1h 09
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Is Twitter/X Dead or Making a Comeback? (431)
Twitter/X leans into NSFW content and vertical video. Is this the sign of a turnaround or more desperate measures to stay alive? Robert and Joe take opposite sides and fight, fight, fight. Spotify's CEO makes comments about the cost of content being almost nothing. Should we care or should we boycott? Hits include Four Seasons and 10 Cent Beer night. Rants and raves include signals from Marcus Sheridan and Suits. ----- This week's links: Twitter's New NSFW Strategy Twitter/X Will Do Vertical Video
2024-06-07
1h 11
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Live from CEX 2024 (with special guest Philip Hernandez)
A special live recording of Joe and Robert with Philip Hernandez from the Haunted Attraction Network, recorded at Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX) in Cleveland, Ohio on May 5th. Philip goes into detail about how he thinks about and creates content for the network, including the challenges and opportunities in social media content creation. Please follow Philip on Instagram and check out the Haunted Attraction Network. Special thanks to Hubspot for sponsoring the opening reception at CEX, and to our friends at VividFront for producing this recording. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE t...
2024-05-20
31 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Our Most Impactful Business Books of All-Time [Special Episode]
Robert and Joe run through the business books that have made the most impact on their lives and careers. They include: Marketing Management – Philip Kotler Discovery Driven Growth – Rita Gunther McGrath Different – Youngme Moon How Will You Measure Your Life – Clayton Christensen Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance – Robert Pirsig Think & Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - Stephen Covey Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert Heinlein IMC: Integrated Marketing Communication - Don Schultz David & Goliath - Malcolm Gladwell This week's sponsor: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspo...
2024-04-05
43 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Apple Shows AI Weakness with Google Deal
In this special episode #420, Joe and Robert dissect the upcoming Apple/Google deal for AI and the iPhone. Is this a sign of weakness for Apple or are they just buying time? OpenAI's chatbot store is filling up with spam. Are you surprised? And a group of publishing experts launch Authors Equity to give more rights back to authors. Uh, we don't think so. Hits and misses include Liquid Death and Coca-Cola. Rants and raves includes a full overview of the TikTok banning bill and why it's harder to become a...
2024-03-22
1h 13
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
12 Secrets to Content Marketing Success [Special Episode]
In this special #ThisOldMarketing episode, Joe and Robert review their presentations from Social Media Marketing World 2024. Robert shares his insights, including: The Value of Relationships The Product Content Mindset The Point of View Architecture The Trust Exercise - Audit Your Experiences Joe runs through his secrets for content marketing success, including: Building the Base The Content Tilt Acquiring Content Assets Creators over Content Pillar Content Projects The NEW Print Opportunity Email, Email, Email The Content Revenue Model For the full content marketing revenue model, check out our book, Killing Marketing. Sign up...
2024-03-08
56 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Secrets to Growing a Content Brand [Special Episode]
In this special Blossom episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert discuss the insights and secrets into creating a profitable content brand, for both content marketing and content creator goals. Topics discussed include: How to truly differentiate and grow an audience How to create a content tilt Do you build or buy? Focus on creator, brand or content brand? and many more content marketing insights This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work...
2024-02-16
53 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Digital Is Crowdy [The Search for Differentiation]
Joe and Robert are back from a crazy 2023 with thoughts of Elon and crowdiness. In this episode, Steamboat Willie is released from its copyright shackles. Is there an opportunity for brands in out-of-date content? Fidelity lowers X's valuation even more. Is a turnaround to come? Time appoints a new Chief Events Officer in a clear signal that there is a bull market for in-person events. In rants and raves, Joe comments on the right-sizing of creator businesses, while Robert pontificates on clickbait. This week's links: Mickey Mouse...
2024-01-05
1h 11
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Content Marketing Confessions and Pet Peeves [Special Episode]
Joe and Robert take time out of their regular programming to talk about key marketing career challenges and how they overcame them. In addition, the boys do a speed round on content marketing pet peeves. This week's links: Sahil Bloom's Annual Review This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landing pages in minutes. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/campaign-assistant.
2023-12-29
58 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
2024 Content Marketing Predictions Show [Special Episode]
It's here! The annual episode where Robert and Joe predict everything that will not go right in the content marketing and media world. This year, the boys predict: A social media collapse - TikTok and YouTube see big surges as the waves of the strike Tsunami hit. AI goes mainstream and actually starts to earn its keep – but NOT in creating externally focused content but rather conversational Advertising and behind the scenes marketing work. Brands go "all in" on owned media - especially video. Local news and journalism make a big comeback. At least three, major brands launch new...
2023-12-22
59 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Will Gemini Be Google's Search Savior?
Google makes their big AI announcement regarding Google Gemini. Can the new AI suite save Google's stalling search business? Is purpose-driven content dead after failures by Bud Light and Target? Joe is skeptical but Robert thinks there is a big opportunity. Spotify announces some big layoffs and a strategic change, while the NCAA might be hiring students in the very near future. Rants and raves include TikTok shopping and a new model for digital ad revenue. This week's links: Google's Gemini Announced Brand Backlash Spotify's...
2023-12-08
1h 11
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Mess at OpenAI
Note: This was recorded before Sam Altman was reinstated at OpenAI. Go figure! Joe and Robert go indepth on the soap opera that is OpenAI, and the ramifications on marketers and content creators. X sees another exodus of advertisers. Is this the end of the road for the former blue bird? And TikTok is now used at a key news source for 30 percent of young adults. Should we be scared? Rants and raves include ideas to save local journalism and Buzzfeed's new business model. This week's links: ...
2023-11-24
1h 18
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Grading Our 2023 Content Marketing Predictions [Special Episode]
A very special episode where Joe and Robert review their content and marketing predictions from the previous year. Do they make the grade? You need to judge for yourself. TikTok will be banned. Netflix will merge with another streaming platform. LinkedIn will rise to the top. First party data will rule. AI dominates. Google uses AI detector. Content acquisitions on the rise. Recession will be localized to tech only. Cryptopunks and Bored Apes double. Apple will introduce a headset. This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business?
2023-11-10
54 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
AI & The Melting of Truth
A special 400th episode of This Old Marketing. And yes, the boys are getting up there! Joe and Robert discuss AI announcements by the US President and Microsoft (launching of Copilot), as well as Google integrating AI into search. For AI to work well, it needs to be working from a correct set of information. Is that the case or should we be worried? Elon holds a company meeting and talks about X doing almost everything. It's too bad that Apple and Google have a head start in this area. And Disney buys...
2023-11-03
1h 07
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Meta Chooses Profits Over Kids
Breaking news as X year-over-year numbers plummet. Can the Elon-run social media site recover? Meta, and more specifically Instagram, is being sued by 33 states. The charge? That the company repeatedly misled the public about the dangers of being on their platform. Joe and Robert discuss the sad truth: Meta puts profits (and addiction) ahead of the future of America. Done and done. And finally, new research suggests that trust in media is at an all-time low (and getting worse by the minute). But there is an opportunity. Rants and raves include...
2023-10-27
1h 13
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
X Makes First Major Move to Payments Platform
This week the all-knowing Elon announced their "everyone gets charged a dollar" plan. Musk made this sound like it was a "bots" move. Joe and Robert know it's something completely different. Tucker Carlson makes his well-telegraphed move to media company (we called this). What can creators and marketers learn from the move? And marketers are as tense as ever. Is this temporary or just stating the obvious? Rants and raves include a bit of Shakespeare, following by Google and Taylor Swift. This week's links: X Charges One Dollar
2023-10-20
1h 10
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Surviving a Content Marketing World [Special Episode]
A special Content Marketing World week episode where Joe and Robert break down their talks from the big event. Robert goes indepth on content marketing's evolution into, just, marketing. Or is it vice versa? Joe goes through 20+ points about how a content marketer can make the transition to full-time content creator (as a business). The boys also entertain a question from Paris (in a van) from Australia. Finally...Joe and Robert make a big announcement. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google an...
2023-09-29
54 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
A Media Business Dumpster Fire
Can anyone save the media business? Joe and Robert discuss the downfall of big media and where the opportunities are for content marketers and creators. Elon is pivoting X/Twitter to subscription only. Incredibly smart or inherently stupid? Scribe Media is not dead (as reported). Good news? And Google plays with politics and Taylor Swift. Rants and raves include Robert's new book (link below) and how we need to buy differently from creators. This week's links: Elon Musk and Subscription Hollywood Giants Slim Down
2023-09-22
1h 09
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
AI Continues To Eat Media Business Models
Disney, NY Times and CNN are among dozens of major media companies blocking access to ChatGPT. Is this the right move or completely short sighted? Joe and Robert think the latter. At the same time, OpenAI launches their new enterprise product. And Gannett (and others) backtracks on their usage of automated news writing. Is this the right decision? Rants and raves include LinkedIn's new verification partnership with Clear and Charter's problem with Disney. This week's links: ChatGPT Blocked by Media Companies ChatGPT Enterprise Launches Gannett...
2023-09-08
1h 08
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Next Thing in Content, Amazing Cases, and "If We Had a Job" - Office Hours Special Episode (391)
A very special episode of This Old Marketing where Joe and Robert take questions from LinkedIn. The boys answer such questions as: Which marketing trend died out faster than expected, and which one will come back? Which company/organization is doing content best today? Other than AI, what the next thing in content marketing? If you had to start over from scratch - no network, connections, favors, etc... and you had $10K to build a cash flow positive business making six figures within one year, what would you do and how...
2023-09-01
56 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Fake Content Everywhere [and what to do]
What do marketers and creators do about all the fake content? Joe and Robert discuss a slew of AI-generated books, while an 80s horror film that never actually happened goes viral on TikTok. And does Google care about your content as they employ more AI in their searches? The boys discuss a few ways to make sure your content continues to be found. Rants and raves include a gender disparity documentary and a content marketing salary survey. This week's links: AI-Generated Books Are Fakes Why Goodreads and...
2023-08-18
1h 12
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
ESPN - The Sportsbook
Big news this week as PENN sells Barstool Sports back to David Portnoy and (in an obvious move) partners with ESPN to create ESPN-branded sportsbooks around the country. Could this be the end of civilization as we know it? In other news, the "Apple buying Disney" frenzy continues. Joe and Robert argue about it for 10 minutes and both thinks they won the argument. Spotify and NPR are killing off podcasts. Is the a good business move or a lack of long-term thinking? And Kai Cenat creates a mob in New York...
2023-08-11
1h 12
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
AI Everywhere All At Once
This week Joe and Robert discuss how every piece of content created has "at least" a little bit of AI in it. Meta blocks news links in Canada. Is this a negotiation tactic or a sign of things to come? The movie Sound of Freedom continues to defy box office expectations. Is this because of a novel marketing approach or something different? In rants and raves, Joe discusses a new content marketing game from Baseball Reference, while Robert talks about Joe. This week's links: Lulu Acquires The Tilt and...
2023-08-04
1h 11
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Mouse Meets the Mac
Disney CEO Bob Iger received an extension to stay as CEO until the end of 2026. Joe believes this is just enough time to sell the company to Apple (of course). Robert and Joe discuss what it will take to make that happen. Threads starts laying out advertising guidelines, but should they even do it? Joe says no and Robert says wait. Finally, the Morning Brew talks about what makes media success, but most of all, the advantages for content marketing are clear. Rants and raves include Aretha Franklin's will and the new Star...
2023-07-14
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
You Need to Pay Attention to This [Special Episode]
A #ThisOldMarketing mid-year special episode where Joe and Robert cover what marketers and content creators should be paying attention to, including: Creating Too Much Content (and not enough activation) AI in Content Taking Your Email Newsletter Seriously What Is the Website? The Video Strategy The Job Market Print Is Back Here Come the Acquisitions ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and g...
2023-06-30
1h 02
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Elon Zuckerberg Ultimate Cage Fight
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Twitter goes on a brand safety publicity tour, but it won't help their advertising sales. Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk trade threats about an actual cage fight. If it happens, Joe is putting is money on the Zuck. Robert likes Elon's "walrus" play. TikTok is booming with TikTok coins. Who knew? InBev continues to chase mistakes as it just wants to create "beer for everyone." Rants and raves include the US Open and the continuing saga at Reddit. This week's links: Twitter & B...
2023-06-23
1h 14
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
In TikTok We Trust?
Could it be that the future of the US will get their news from TikTok? Robert and Joe discuss how this can go down a dark, lonely path for many. Google News announces (yet again) that it will launch soon (very soon!). And the creator-friendly site known as Twitter is opening up a flawed advertising model for a handful of people that will pay pennies on the dollar. Rants and raves include the Arnold documentary and the rented land crisis at Reddit. This week's links: Cleveland Browns New Logo
2023-06-16
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The LIV/PGA Merger: What Can Brands Learn? (379)
Big news of the week is the PGA tour merging with the Saudi-backed LIV tour. Joe and Robert talk about what this means for brands in the future. Apple launches the Vision Pro. Will there be a long-term market for the product? Rumors again surface about Apple buying Disney. Is this even close to being possible? And Elon announces that Twitter's subscribers can me moved off-platform. Rants and raves include ChatGPT-5 and Tucker Carlson. ----- This episode is sponsored by Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest...
2023-06-09
1h 15
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
AI: The End Is Near
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert talk about the 22-word statement from the creators of AI. Simply put, we are in big trouble. WPP launches a content engine with Nvidia that will make the production of ads quicker and easier because of AI. I know...everything we always wanted. Elon continues to push Twitter over the edge, including a big middle-finger to the EU's Disinformation Code of Practice, and the formal outsourcing of their ad unit. And finally, does purpose-driven content have a place with "everybody" brands today? Rants...
2023-06-02
1h 12
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Meta to Announce Twitter Competitor Called Instaflop (377)
In this episode, Elon goes full Murdoch, trying to build Twitter into the next Fox News. Advertising continues to plummet for media companies and creators. How long will this ad recession last? There are rumors that Meta will announce a Twitter competitor any time now. Joe and Robert believe this is false news. And TikTok sues Montana in the goofball move of the year (by Montana, not TikTok). Rants and raves include the creator economy middle class and 71 percent of CMOs want more marketing tech budget. This week's links:
2023-05-26
1h 04
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Robert and Joe Live from CEX: Creator Economy Expo
For only the fourth time in history, Joe and Robert record a live episode face-to-face. Creator Economy Expo (CEX) 2023 brought content creators from all over the world together between May 1st and 3rd. The boys do a complete roundup of the latest creator economy research, as well as an overview of the keynotes at CEX, all inside the Evergreen Podcast Networks studio at CEX. This week's links: 2023 Creator Economy Research from The Tilt Creator Economy Expo ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, G...
2023-05-05
39 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Twitter X and Its Boujie Verification Service
Elon is back in the news, announcing that Twitter will now report directly into X corp. Is this the X everything app plan or a way to hide expenses? A Drake song goes viral that wasn't really Drake. Joe and Robert discuss the impact of AI parodies from music to text (and what we should expect). Spotify goes non-exclusive with Gimlet. Was this a planned or surprise move? And a new Deloitte survey shows that video games now top the content chart. What other changes in content consumption are ahead? Rants...
2023-04-20
1h 05
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
TikTok's Lemon8 Battles Instagram
Bytedance, the owner of TikTok, puts big money behind their Instagram/Pinterest clone called Lemon8. Pushing for a May launch in the states, Lemon8 is going directly after Instagram (and perhaps the US government). Will it succeed in an already crowded social media field? Bud Light gets hate mail from Kid Rock. Is that a good or bad thing? And AI continues to be the leading story in the world of marketing. When will the hurting stop? In rants and raves, Joe raves about a Lin-Manuel Miranda clip, while Robert rants about Twitter...
2023-04-14
1h 07
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
10 Proven Ways to Build an Audience [Special Episode]
In this very special episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert go back and forth each sharing the five best decisions they made over their careers that helped them build a loyal audience. While some are no brainers, a few of these will surprise you. We hope you enjoy this very special episode of This Old Marketing. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's c...
2023-04-07
44 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Is TikTok a Spy Balloon In Your Pants?
Oh boy is TikTok in the news this week. Now more than 150 million Americans use TikTok on a regular basis. The US government believes this is a security risk for multiple reasons. But most people aren't talking about the #1 reason (we discuss this). Streaming is down from its lofty levels. Will it continue to dip? We think it might. Is there a new streaming model on the way? And social media is going the way of the DM. What does this mean for marketers? In rants and raves, Joe raves about...
2023-03-24
1h 06
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
A Marketing Masterclass from Ryan Reynolds
This week, TikTok is back in the news with an ultimatum from Biden's camp. The SVB collapse takes center stage, and Joe and Robert go into the weeds discussing it. Will Meta be the next AOL? We think the news is overblown. ChatGPT-4 is released and the world turns on its axis. And then there is Ryan Reynolds, who sells Mint Mobile for $1.3 billion, an entirely marketing-driven feet. How did he do it? Let's discuss. In rants and raves, Joe comments about content creation and patience while Robert raves about HBO's "...
2023-03-17
1h 02
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
US TikTok Ban Goes Too Far
TikTok is all over the news again. This time, a bipartisan committee has come up with a bill for Biden to ban TikTok. But not just that. It will give executive powers to ban pretty much anything that they "deem" a security risk. Joe and Robert believe this bill goes too far. In other news, Medium makes a "meh" announcement about Mastodon, while this week just about every major tech company launched an AI product. Oh...and tech pub Wired wrote a manifesto for using AI. And it's not bad. Rants and raves...
2023-03-10
1h 09
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
A Deep Dive into ChatGPT and Marketing AI [Special Episode]
With Joe on another sabbatical, Robert hosts the amazing Paul Roetzer, the world's foremost expert on marketing and AI content. Robert asks Paul the following: 1. How do you think the development of AI-based search affects brands willingness to make content available to search engines? Will people start putting more of their content behind a gate? 2. From a content and marketing perspective – where are you most BULLISH, and where are you most CONCERNED about the impact AI is likely to have in the short and medium term? 3. I’m going to come back to the...
2023-02-24
41 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Is AI Content a Race to the Bottom?
In this episode, Time and Taboola team up (is that Timeboola?) for a new eCommerce experiment. Is eCommerce the new sponsorship for publishers? The disinformation war is over. Disinformation won. And AI content is changing the business model for creators and the fight for search. Does this open a real opportunity for those who have audiences? Is AI content just a race to the bottom? In rants and raves, Joe loves this new research out about reading fiction, while Robert's viral post on the comma goes, well, viral. This week's links:
2023-02-17
1h 10
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
A Special Episode: The Accurate Future of Social Media
In this very special episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert break down the good, the bad and the ugly for social media platforms in 2023 and beyond, including Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, Twitter and more. This week's sponsor is Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. And they make it easy to brand and customize your videos inside the studio before you...
2023-02-10
39 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Battle for AI Dominance
The past few weeks have been everything ChatGPT and AI. Joe and Robert cover multiple AI lawsuits, as well as Microsoft's $10 billion dollar bet on OpenAI. JPMorgan forgets to do major due diligence in its content marketing purchase, while Parler seems to be saying bye bye. In "musky scent" Elon has a garage sale. Oh...and the boys are still arguing about the definition of content marketing. This week's links: AI Copyright Lawsuit Getty Art Lawsuit MSFT's Bet on OpenAI JPMorgan's Frank Failure
2023-01-20
1h 11
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Inside Joe and Robert's Business Models [Special Episode]
In this very special This Old Marketing episode, Joe and Robert peel back the curtain and talk about their business models. What's working? What's changed? What's next? What can you learn? The gents hold nothing back in this very special episode. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.
2023-01-13
54 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Inside This Old Marketing [Bonus Takeover Episode]
This Old Marketing will never be the same. This episode is taken over by Jay Acunzo, who goes inside how the podcast is made, including the early days, the process and the minimal success (and major failures) of Pulizzi and Rose. Special thanks to Jay for spending one agonizing hour with This Old Marketing. Find Jay at 3 Clips with Jay Acunzo (podcasters take you inside their best work) and Growable Shows -- Jay's course on show development and growth for marketers. ------ Subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever...
2020-12-17
1h 13
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
KFC Content Is Better than a Bucket of Chicken
In this episode, the FTC sues Facebook for illegal monopolization. Thanks Captain Obvious! For decades, as newspapers declined, local news suffered. The University of Kansas found a solution, but Joe and Robert feel corporate dollars could be the real savior. KFC launches a Lifetime mini-movie starring Mario Lopez. Joe and Robert simply can't wait to see it. Substack is on fire! More and more journalists and reporters are flocking to the email subscription platform. Is this a good thing? A 2020 "year in review" finds that audio wins, paid subscription busted out...
2020-12-11
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Thanksgiving Episode & A Trick Moment for Brands
In this special Turkey Day episode, Joe and Robert cover some touchy brand communication issues, including how some brands like Oreo and Snickers are having fun with Twitter's "disputed claims." In addition, the boys spend plenty of time talking about how "the vid" has accelerated major changes in content marketing and e-commerce media. This Week's Sponsor: Content Marketing University ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi...
2020-11-26
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Beyonce, New York Times and Morning Brew (Oh my!)
Morning Brew sells its email subscription juggernaut for $75 million, building the email newsletter model for all the follow. The New York Times digital subscription business goes boom boom, while text-to-speech is the next big thing you've never "heard" of. And Beyonce decides to form a huge content partnership with Peloton instead of being interviewed on the This Old Marketing podcast. Robert raves about Philip Kotler's new blog and Adobe acquiring WorkFront. Joe raves about Netflix starting a programmed channel and how Twitch is not just for gamers anymore. This week's sponsor...
2020-11-12
1h 04
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Greatest Marketing Predictions Episode Ever (2021 version)
Yes, the big marketing predictions episode if finally here. Joe and Robert answer: - What will happen to the martech industry? - What big names will be bought and sold in 2021? - Who wins in content marketing...and who loses? - What does the future of in-person events look like? And don't worry...they cover the news as well...with a (probably final) Quibi update, as well as a great case study from The Dodo. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World (on demand) ...
2020-10-29
1h 05
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Why Netflix Would Buy AMC (and why that's important)
The boys kick off the show with highlights from the just finished Content Marketing World 2020. The streaming wars have begun. Disney has committed to it. Amazon and Apple are dabbling in it. But Netflix owns it. An AMC purchase (who might run out of cash by the end of the year) could be how it levels up. In other news, Facebook is the most distrusted social media platform (go figure), and Yelp adds a new "racist behavior exists here" component (which could be good but could also go wildly wrong). Robert has a...
2020-10-15
1h 06
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Future of Content Marketing, TikTok and Football
In this very special episode, Joe and Robert talk about Content Marketing World's 10 year anniversary, the changes in content marketing, and what should happen to the industry. News stories include TikTok's sale. Will it go through and when will that be? In addition, it looks like Google is going to bail out the entire publishing industry. And, of course, the boys discuss who is going to win the Cowboys/Browns game and what's on the line. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing...
2020-10-01
1h 04
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Why the TikTok Deal Will Absolutely Happen
The TikTok/Oracle deal comes under scrutiny, but both Joe and Robert think the deal with absolutely go through, especially while TikTok's numbers continue to grow. Facebook is getting in the email marketing business. Will they buy a business or consumer-side email marketing company, or go organic? The Taboola/Outbrain deal is off the table. The boys discuss why this happened and what's the future for the tech. And why are Google results always so old? Ryan Law discusses why businesses need to look at the second-mover advantage of search results. ...
2020-09-17
1h 07
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Facebook Cleans Up Political Ads...But that's Not the Problem
Facebook makes an announcement about curbing political ads, but still has a major problem with false organic content, as Russia again infiltrates the site. LEGO leverages user-generated content as new product development, while CVS launches a new media network. In rants and raves, Adweek buys Target Marketing and Publishing Executive, Facebook's CMO resigns to create more diversity, and Mattress Firm launches Sleep.com. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing World ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to...
2020-09-03
1h 01
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Rented Land and Native Advertising Disaster
Major media companies from around the United States are divesting their real estate properties to right-size their business models. Washington Post pushes forward into native advertising territory as traditional advertising falters. Audio is even bigger than we thought it would be, while creators at TikTok don't understand that they built their homes on rented land, and are now searching for a way out. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Twinsthenewtrend and their viral video (and video strategy) behind "In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins. Robert applauds High Times for buying up dispensaries in California (another...
2020-08-20
1h 00
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
TikTok, the Nike Ad and Surprising Acquisitions
First, watch the Nike ad if you haven't. Required watching. TikTok was in the news this week, with a crazy deal in progress with Microsoft. In other news, Industry Dive purchased Newscred's content marketing studio business, while Digiday finds that branded content and native advertising spending is on a downward trend. Freightwaves media business has taken off and Buzzfeed now sells products (of course they do). Robert has another Quibi update and comments on Tom Goodwin's firing from Publicis. Joe loves the launch of The 19th, and comments about the closing of Folio...
2020-08-06
1h 07
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Double Down or Diversify? That Is the Question
While Coca-Cola begins killing zombie brands in favor of old standbys, companies like The New York Times are diversifying like crazy. Who's right? Carnage is hitting digital media during the pandemic, affecting publishers just when they started to turn the corner, while content marketing, according to ANA research, is beginning to boom. Joe raves about Prof G's podcast with Adam Alter on recombination. Robert raves on Calm's new meditation app, and comments about Google's new cookie policy. This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing...
2020-07-23
1h 06
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Social Media Is Out to Destroy Us
Facebook was under fire this week for possibly spreading hate speech and misinformation (what's new?). Some people think Zuckerberg should be out. At the same time, TikTok may possibly be forced out of the United States as concern of Chinese data tampering persists. In other news, Lululemon buys Mirror in a content/technology deal that seemed almost too cheap to pass up. And when did Substack get so big? Could it be the next bubble? Rants and raves include a #Quibi update (doesn't look good) with Project M buying The Hard...
2020-07-09
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Who's Going to Be the Netflix of Business Content?
Almost all physical events are canceled for 2020. This means there will be a lot of innovation in the virtual events space. This also means a huge opportunity for a large tech brand to become the Netflix for business video content. The Girl Scouts are launching a new content brand called CircleAround. Both Joe and Robert love the idea, but the plan has some major flaws. Some publisher content studios are set up to fail, while Facebook faces a serious boycott to its services. In rants and raves, Robert's Quibi update...plus a rave...
2020-06-25
1h 04
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
238: Is Your Social Media Your Property?
Continuing the acquisition movement, Adweek was purchased by Shamrock Capital Advisors. More to come? The boys will answer. Microsoft lays of 50 journalists, instead opting to use "computer robots." Robert reviews what journalists need to do now to protect their jobs. And Nic Carter from Coindesk details a fascinating take on perhaps, in the future, you'll be able to lay claim to your social media profile. Robert provides a valuable Quibi update and rants on yet another AdAge article. Joe spends his time remembering the great Don Schultz, may he rest in peace.
2020-06-11
1h 10
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Chaos Creates a Rather Large Marketing Opportunity for Brands
Media company Team Whistle buys production company/agency Tiny Horse, further showing that revenue diversification is king in media and content marketing today. Joe Rogan signs with Spotify and Joe and Robert chiming in on who is the real winner. The White House is putting the smackdown on Twitter and social media regarding Twitter's labeling of the President's tweets, while Zuckerberg keeps making the wrong decisions for Facebook. Joe raves about Prof G's podcast with Sam Harris regarding the destruction of the advertising model and rants about how TV advertisers can't keep an...
2020-05-28
1h 06
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Media Business Killed Itself
The New York Times reports that big tech such as Facebook and Google should pay media companies reparations for lost revenue. Joe and Robert think differently. The media business continues to kill itself due to a short-sighted revenue strategy. In other news, the Financial Times launches a mix group for subscription but doesn't invite any product brands, while thought leadership is everything. Robert's rants and raves include a Quibi update and that new marketing really isn't new, while Joe discusses an interview with the IAB and the new Riot Games Launch. Sponsor: CMI's...
2020-05-15
1h 02
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Prepare for a Turnaround with these Marketing Tips
What do marketers do while we wait for a turnaround? Cosmo magazine details a number of key content marketing tactics that should be used by every enterprise, while Orbit Media offers 26 marketing ideas you could use now to get your house in order. Vayner Media continues an acquisition trend and there is a sale on Facebook ads. #ThisOldMarketing raves include a Quibi update, unique partnerships, and a rant on virtual college tours. Today's sponsor: Content Marketing Awards. Deadline for entry is 5/29. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old...
2020-05-01
1h 01
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Why You Need to Invest in Marketing Now (Before It's Too Late)
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Robert and Joe discuss why marketers need to aggressively invest in marketing now and not cut back. In other news, Joe Biden and team (finally) launch an enewsletter and podcast program, while a few airlines announce the suspension of their print onboard magazines in response to the coronavirus. Then the boys spend many fruitless minutes discussing the launch of new content platform Quibi and what that means for humankind. In rants and raves, Robert raves about the opportunity in everything and Some Good News with John Krasinski, while...
2020-04-16
1h 05
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Can Media Companies Survive Coronavirus?
In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss how the coronavirus COVID-19 is impacting media companies, specifically local media. Frankly, can they survive? What will be the model that replaces them? In other news, what can enterprise brands learn from the marketing of YouTube sensation Jo-Jo Siwa? Media and brand publishing partnerships are all the rage, while the CMO of Anheuser-Busch goes full content marketing. In rants and raves, Joe raves about the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum and Robert comments on consumer trust in digital marketing. Today's sponsor: Content Marketing University...
2020-04-03
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
What Marketers Need to Do During Lockdown [SPECIAL EPISODE]
A special episode of #ThisOldMarketing. In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss some big opportunities for marketers, especially in the acquisition space. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.
2020-03-27
45 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Making Sense of a Crazy Week...plus Could Apple Buy Disney?
Joe and Robert discuss a corona virus (COVID-19) week of news in marketing, trying to make sense of what's next. Corona virus coverage gives major publishers a huge lift in traffic, bringing in pay-wall and advertising questions. In other news, a strange report claimed that now is the time for Apple to buy Disney. Of course, Robert is against, while Joe is the biggest cheerleader for the deal. Facebook had all sorts of issues with its AI-powered SPAM engine, while Ford completely changes it's advertising campaigns in response to COVID-19. Finally, the boys...
2020-03-20
1h 05
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Marketing at a Social Distance [SPECIAL EPISODE]
A special episode of #ThisOldMarketing. In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss the new reality in front of marketers and what we, as marketers, need to be focusing on today. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.
2020-03-13
42 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Salesforce, Mailchimp Buy Media Properties
For episode #229 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert lead off with a worthy rant on AdAge's addition of a "content marketing" awards category, which really isn't content marketing at all. Both Mailchimp and Salesforce purchase media properties, further proving that the boys' prediction from the past is coming true - corporate brands are and will continue to buy traditional media assets. In other news, former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick launches his one publishing venture. The jury is out on whether this is actually a real thing or not. In rants and raves, Robert rants...
2020-03-09
1h 02
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Real Story Behind Facebook's Fact-Checking Plan
In episode #228 of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert kick off the show with commentary on Burger King's new "moldy burger" campaign. Facebook hires Reuters to do fact checking, and the boys argue about the real strategy behind the move. More and more "advertisers" are buying media companies and one article gives a detailed history of the missed opportunity (by both marketers and media companies). Catalogs are back again, while the Peloton "wife" commercial didn't hurt business like so many prognosticators thought. In rants and raves, Robert details why IKEA keeps...
2020-02-25
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Ranking the Best & Worst Super Bowl Ads of 2020
On episode #227 of PNR's This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert dissect the best and worst super bowl ads of 2020. In other news, the creation of less content is actually a winning strategy of successful online publishers, while Warren Buffett leaves the newspaper media industry...or does he? There were a slew of M&A deals over the past few weeks, including Barstool Sports and Spotify gobbling up "The Ringer." In rants and raves, Joe raves about Ray Dalio's Principles, and shares one of the oldest content marketing examples ever. Robert raves about John...
2020-02-11
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Content Jobs Among Biggest Growth Area Per World Economic Forum
In episode 226 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert dissect an intriguing report by the World Economic Forum on the future of jobs. In it, the WEF predict that sales, marketing and content jobs will be among the most plentiful. In other news, the death of the cookie (as declared by Google) is big news for advertisers, publishers and content marketers. Who will win? (Joe and Robert tell you) Finally, the boys break down the success of new media companies turning profitable, and what marketers can learn. In rants and raves, Joe raves about the...
2020-01-28
1h 01
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Coca-Cola Reverts Back to CMO Role. Does It Matter?
In episode #225 (the Happy New Year episode) of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert look at the advertising industry, and whether a "move" away from smartphone usage will hurt digital ads (uh, not really). Facebook says it will ban artificial intelligence "deepfakes," but will it make a difference since Facebook isn't changing its policy on cheapfakes or shallowfakes? The annual Consumer Electronics Show (CES) happened last week. Joe and Robert discuss some of the main questions from the CES show. And finally, Coca-Cola reverted back to having the CMO role. Robert is happy, but Joe...
2020-01-14
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
8 Big Content Marketing Predictions for 2020
Yes! It's the annual #ThisOldMarketing predictions episode. This year, Robert and Joe bring you eight amazing and infallible marketing predictions that are sure to be wrong (but fun nonetheless). This year's marketing predictions include: Less Content and Simplicity to Drive Marketing Strategy in 2020 (Joe). Brand Journalism (or Content Marketing) is pushed forward by Social Corporate Responsibility (SCR) efforts (Robert). The drop in print has stopped. 2020 will see the resurgence of print media led by enterprise brands (Joe). Support article on print books here. Ad Tech takes a crippling hit in 2020 (Robert). Microsoft will launch...
2019-12-31
1h 04
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Can Marketers Learn Anything from the Peloton Fiasco?
In this episode #223 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert go inside Peloton...discussing the ad, the aftermath and what might happen to the brand in the future. Robert believes many mistakes were made, but the public's reaction was a pure over-reaction. Joe thinks that we can't judge the outcome until the next quarter's results are in. In other news, the boys dissect the #SubscribeSunday program from Boston Globe, and how brands can use both an "event" and a collaborative effort to launch and grow content marketing initiatives. Finally, Joe and Robert discuss the huge opportunities and...
2019-12-16
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Our Biggest Failures BONUS Episode + Even More Failures
In this very special #222 bonus episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert take requests from Twitter. What could go wrong? Alberto Gomez (@albermoire) asked Joe and Robert about their biggest failures. Since the boys only had an hour, they decided to cover just a few of the many, many failures in their young lives. Doug Kessler (@DougKessler) asked about "what's next?" Joe covered voice and print. Robert covered drastic changes in governance. Both discussed the evolution of social media, with particular focus on Sacha Baron Cohen's recent ADL speech. In rants and...
2019-11-25
1h 01
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Marketing Always Works (If You Leave Out Certain Data)
In episode 221 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert unpack Disney's launch of Disney+, including first-day tech issues, adding 10 million users, and a huge stock market push to record levels. Further into the show, Robert unpacks the current marketing bubble: online advertising (H/T @karlyeh721), and how everything can be proven to work if you only use part of the data. Joe continues on into social media news: Facebook is found to be "secretly" using the iPhone camera while their app is open and Instagram announces they won't be showing the like count on posts any longer. ...
2019-11-19
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Twitter's Move Away from Political Ads a PR Stunt
In episode 220 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the bold move by Twitter, who announced they will remove political ads from their platform in a few weeks. Robert believes this was a good call, and that Twitter may not resume service in that area. Joe believes that Twitter completely dropped the ball, and they will resume service (and charge a premium) in a few months. Both believe the move was done primarily for public relations purposes. In other news, Google buys wearables-maker Fitbit, and also looks at acquiring TikTok rival Firework. Joe and Robert also review Orbit...
2019-11-05
1h 01
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Will New Regulations Help or Hurt Your Content Creation?
In episode 219 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert start by discussing the controversy surrounding the NBA and China. Was the NBA correct in how they dealt with an employee tweet (we say no)? How should a large global brand deal with employee social media? Other news was dominated by government regulations. First, the boys unpack California Assembly Bill 5 (AB5) and what it means for hiring freelance content creators. Second, Joe and Robert discuss California's Privacy Act, which seems to be the start of how dozens of states are dealing with online privacy concerns...and...are the new regulations...
2019-10-21
57 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Is the Death of Advertising Upon Us?
Episode #218 of #ThisOldMarketing focuses on the death of advertising. Is it really a thing? Or perhaps an evolution to a new form and function? What would a future with no advertising look like? In other news, the Washington Post begins licensing its Content Management System to large brands, paving the way for Jeff Bezos's (Amazon's) dominance over yet another category. An important stat: 49% of Google searches end up in zero clicks, and Google's strategy will only end up increasing this number. Could search engine optimization die along with advertising? Raves include how Red...
2019-10-08
1h 09
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
How to Launch a Show Network the Right (and Wrong) Way
In episode #217 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert first discuss Disney CEO Bob Iger's statement that if Steve Jobs were still alive, Apple and Disney would be one company. Let's all just pause right to ponder that possibility. Then the boys dissect the new Recur network from ProfitWell...discussing the good, the bad and the ugly. Is it smart to launch 12 shows at the same time or should ProfitWell do one thing great and move on to the next one? In other news, Joe unpacks how Twitch.tv (owned by Amazon) took over streaming...
2019-09-23
1h 05
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Is Google Killing the Website?
In episode 216 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the trend that more and more searches on mobile and desktop end without a click. In the future will the website, as we know it, cease to exist? In other news, the boys elaborate on how audio content and podcasts still may be the best opportunity for building audiences, while both share their take on Google's new privacy stance and why it doesn't help any individual or company except for Google. Rants and raves include a take on Cleveland Clinic's blog revenue strategy and, of course, a...
2019-09-10
1h 04
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The End of Social Media As We Know It
In episode 215 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss Twitter's decision to ban "state-run" media and how this will, effectively, lead to a huge change in how content is published on social media. Social media sites, like Facebook and YouTube, know their biggest liability is the created content on their platform. We are just now seeing the beginning days of the end of social media as we know it. In other news, Tumblr sells for $3 million (down from $1.1 billion), marketing research shows that marketers think pretty highly of themselves, and Amazon's publishing juggernaut is even bigger than you...
2019-08-27
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Brand Marketers (Hopefully) Starting to Sniff Acquisition Opportunities
In episode 214 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the death of journalism (through newspaper media) and how brands are missing an opportunity by not purchasing more newspaper properties. Procter & Gamble (P&G) is growing like crazy but spending less on advertising than ever before. The boys think they know the reason, including help from Home Made Simple. More B2B and B2C brands are investing in print magazines, including the likes of REI and Goose Island. Opportunity? And FIPP suggests that future growth lies in niche media and underserved international populations.
2019-08-12
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
Content Brands Launching Everywhere While Audio Marketing Blooms
In episode 213 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the death of influencer marketing, which isn't dead at all...just changing. Two big brands, Outdoor Voice and Staples, launch content brands The Recreationalist and Worklife. The opportunities in voice marketing have never been better. Audiobooks are growing at 25 percent and Alexa devices count more than 100 million, yet there are very few Alexa Skills, opening a content gap. In rants and raves, Joe raves about the New York Times enewsletter program, while Robert comments about why MarTech as marketing is a scary proposition. ------
2019-07-29
1h 03
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
The Genesis Planet Episode
After 577 days #This Old Marketing, with author/entrepreneur Joe Pulizzi and strategist Robert Rose, returns in a blaze of glory. Episode 212 leads with a detailed discussion of subscription fatigue and what we as marketers and consumers need to do about it (https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/336981/publishers-face-another-challenge-subscription-f.html). Then the boys go in-depth about the opportunities in print media (https://whatsnewinpublishing.com/2019/07/opinion-why-digitally-native-brands-are-turning-to-print/) and the increasingly complex role of the CMO (https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/marketing-and-sales/our-insights/how-to-unlock-marketing-led-growth-data-creativity-and-credibility). The news concludes with a heated discussion about brand purpose (check o...
2019-07-16
1h 06
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
PNR 9: Will Native Become the Norm? | A Trillion Devices | GI Joe & Content Marketing
In this episode, Joe and Robert talk about the future of content marketing when a trillion devices start talking to each other. Joe explores more on native advertising and the insane growth projections for 2014. Robert covers how marketers are overcomplicating technology. This week's This Old Marketing example: G.I. Joe.
2014-01-15
47 min
This Old Marketing - Content Marketing News with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose
PNR 7: The End of Advertising | Content Marketing and Ron Burgundy
In this episode, Joe Pulizzi (@JoePulizzi) and Robert Rose (@Robert_Rose) talk about what life would be like without advertising, and go in-depth into what Anchorman 2 did differently with content that no other movie ever did before (and what your business can do about it). Also discussed - more content marketing predictions and how small businesses get started with content marketing.
2013-12-30
49 min