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Breaking BizDevBreaking BizDevFree vs Paid Offers: Crafting an Effective Lead Generation StrategyLead generation is a major challenge for many professional services firms. In this episode of Breaking Biz Dev, Mark and John break down possibly the most critical element of lead generation: your offer strategy. What value are you offering? And what’s the call to action? In this episode, you’ll hear:The roles of free vs paid offers in lead generationHow these offers work together in your marketing programHow to measure the performance of each kind of offerVarious cognitive biases that influence offer acceptanceExamples of calls to action (CTAs) for free vs paid offersConnect with Mark...2025-04-2830 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDev3 (Really) Bad Reasons to Hire a RainmakerIn this episode of Breaking Biz Dev, John and Mark take the Rainmaker model out to the alley for a well-deserved beatdown, highlight three (really) bad reasons to hire a rainmaker. In this episode, you’ll hear:What is a ‘Rainmaker’ anyway?Various ways firms organize their sales functionsHow buyers evaluate professional services firmsReally bad reason #1 - you don’t know how to sellReally bad reason #2 - you need a deal closerReally bad reason #3 - you want to grow fasterRead Mark’s full blog post: https://www.wainwrightinsight.com/3-really-bad-reasons-to-hire-a-rainmaker/Show notes:Inside the Buyer’...2025-04-1429 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevCreating a Sales Call Plan: Frameworks, Templates, and a Real-World ExampleProper planning prevents poor performance. Say that 10 times fast.In this episode, John and Mark break down the elements of an effective sales call plan, sharing insights from real-world experiences and highlighting the importance in driving better business outcomes. They walk through the crucial elements that make up an effective call plan and emphasize the significance of preparation, especially for those new to sales conversations. In this conversation, you’ll hear:The components of a sales call plan and why planning prevents poor performance.How setting a clear objective for the call enhances focus and direction.Th...2025-03-3135 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevShape the Future of Breaking BizDev: Share Your Feedback TodaySend us your feedback in this 3-min survey and help shape the future of Breaking BizDev.Is there a topic you want us to cover? Are there different segments or formats we should consider?What’s your preferred way to listen?Let us know!In this short bonus episode, John and Mark share some early feedback from the listener survey, and how you can participate and help steer the conversation. Take the survey as you listen to the episode. Why not?Share your feedback here:https://www.surveymonkey.com...2025-03-2406 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevDon’t Boil the Ocean: The Paradox of Focus, Specialization, and PositioningTurn your firm into a trusted and respected leader in your niche.In this episode, John and Mark explore how firms can not only effectively differentiate against competitors, but actually how to apply that differentiation in their marketing and sales activities. In this conversation, we cover:The nuanced differences between focus, specialization, and positioningReasons why firms should embrace specializationHow to identify the right area of specializationHow to align your specialization with long-term goals for sustained successReal-world examples of firms with focus, specialization and excellent positioning:TBSP (tablespoon) — accounting solutions specifically for restaurants: https://tb...2025-03-1732 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevLooking in the Mirror: How to Be Accountable Even When You Lose“We’re in a bad economy…”“We’re experts. We’re never wrong…”“We’re up against tough competition…”"Our point of contact was a jerk..."…but what if it’s not them? What if it’s you?In this episode, John and Mark dissect what it truly means to be accountable when you lose a prospective client. We dig into the obstacles that professionals encounter when owning up to losses and present actionable strategies to transform setbacks into stepping stones for growth. In this conversation, we cover:Why do we default to the ‘blame game’...2025-03-0329 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevFrom Solo to Enterprise: A Timelapse of Business Development MaturityImagine you could fast-forward your firm's growth and watch it like a time-lapse video going through different stages:Solo Small Mid-size EnterpriseWhat needs to happen in your sales and marketing functions to achieve growth at each stage? How do sales and marketing challenges evolve?That's what this episode is all about. Listen as John and Mark guide you through this sales and marketing maturation journey, along with guest appearances from Reuben Swartz and Mel Lester. We explore topics like:The importance of documentation, processes and systems (at every stage)How to keep...2025-02-1742 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevThe Art of Being Ignorable: 12 Ways to SUCK at DifferentiationDiscover the art of being utterly indistinguishable from your competition.In this episode, John and Mark dive into the art of blending in, unveiling the tongue-in-cheek strategies to completely lose your edge and suck at differentiation. Listeners will learn how to avoid standing out, ensuring a legacy of mediocrity. Join us for a humorous—yet insightful—look at what not to do, ensuring you grasp the full spectrum of effective (and ineffective) differentiation strategies.Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/ Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linke...2025-02-0320 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevBad Habits of Your 'Salesperson' Alter EgoWhen you think of the word ‘salesperson,’ what comes to mind?In this episode, John and Mark explore how professionals can shed ineffective sales habits and adopt a more authentic, client-centric mindset based on inquiry and curiosity. With guest insights from Mel Lester and Blair Enns, you'll learn why introspection and a shift from selling to serving can lead to more satisfying and successful client relationships. In this conversation, we cover:The pitfalls of adopting a stereotypical 'salesperson' persona and why authenticity matters.Practical tips for improving self-awareness and identifying bad sales habits.Examples of how usin...2025-01-2033 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDev4 Things You Forgot To Do In Q4It’s 2025… now what? Well, if you don’t know how your sales and marketing strategy will contribute to revenue in the upcoming year, John and Mark reveal the top four activities you might have overlooked as the year came to a close:Talk to your clientsOptimize your client portfolioUpdate service packaging and pricingCreate a talent management & development planImprove your sales and marketing game this year. Subscribe today!Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/ Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyre...2025-01-0631 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevStrategic Partnerships: Working Together In OrbitAlign yourself with other consultants in-orbit around your clients to deliver more value.Strategic partnerships can transform the way your business grows, turning the equation 1 plus 1 into something much greater. In this episode, John and Mark uncover the value and opportunities hidden within strategic partnerships for professional services firms. They explore how combining resources with the right partners can enhance client services and gain a competitive edge. We also have a guest appearance by Julie Geller, Principal Research Director at Info-Tech Research Group, who speaks to how tech companies evaluate consultants as potential partners.In...2024-12-3031 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevSegment Development Plans: Win New Deals From a Slice of the MarketWin new business from accounts that share a common characteristic. This way, you can build your brand and create efficiencies.In this episode, John and Mark explore how firms can build Segment Development Plans that help firms grow relationships with prospects that represent a specific kind of client account. Combining SWOT analysis with targeted marketing efforts, business developers can use these plans to create a distinctive brand presence. In this conversation, we cover:Different ways to group segments of the marketWhy you tailor your offers for specific groups of the marketHow to perform a SWOT analysis...2024-12-1634 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevAccount Development Plans: Grow Revenue From Your Best ClientsTransform the way you grow key accounts.Yes, you can achieve revenue growth and strengthen client relationships by developing comprehensive account development plans. In this episode, John and Mark share how to co-create effective account development plans with your clients. In this conversation, we answer key questions like:Why is it important to expand business with organizations you’re familiar with?How do you start building an account development plan?How do you prioritize clients for account development planning?What's an example of a simple message to get a conversation started?Download the account development pl...2024-12-0938 minPodcasting in Professional ServicesPodcasting in Professional ServicesIdea Climbing: How to Interview Successful People, with Mark J. CarterPodcasting is a powerful tool to enhance your business strategy.Embark on a journey with Mark J. Carter, host of the "Idea Climbing" podcast, as he shares his extensive experience of conducting over 500 interviews with successful people that has helped him learn and grow. Alongside hosting a podcast, Mark is also the author of "Idea Climbing," a book dedicated to building support systems for new ideas. In this episode, you'll learn:The significance of starting a podcast despite imperfections and the importance of consistency over time How podcasting can serve as an effective networking tool and o...2024-12-0436 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevStorytelling Frameworks for Marketing and SalesEmotion drives purchase decisions more in B2B than B2C. Let that sink in.Yes, even when selecting professional service providers, emotion plays a major factor in decision-making. The relationships we forge and the stories we tell influence opportunities, contracts, and the clients we work with.In this episode, John and Mark delve into proven storytelling frameworks that can help professional services firms set themselves apart and connect on a deeper emotional level with clients. Joined by guest expert Troy Hiduke Campbell, they break down how stories can transform bullet points into compelling narratives...2024-11-2524 minPodcasting in Professional ServicesPodcasting in Professional ServicesAmtower Off Center: Embracing New Channels in GovCon Marketing, with Mark AmtowerThe GovCon market is made up of niches. Podcasting is like on-demand niche radio.Mark Amtower, the host of "Amtower Off Center," part of the Federal News Network, is a leading expert in GovCon marketing and LinkedIn advising. Known for his deep understanding of the government market and strategic insights, Mark has been helping businesses navigate the complexities of government contracts for years. In this episode, you'll learn:How Mark leverages podcasts as a powerful tool for business development and client relationship building Why adopting new communication channels is crucial, particularly in the typically slow-to-adapt government m...2024-11-2133 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevInbound + Outbound = New BusinessUnlock the full potential of your firm's ability to *create* new business by mastering both inbound and outbound revenue generation activities.In this episode, John and Mark explore the synergy between inbound and outbound business development activities and how they can work together to produce exceptional outcomes. They discuss the importance of both approaches, how firms can effectively harness these strategies, and the potential pitfalls when they're misaligned. In this conversation, we cover:The core differences between a magnetic, attraction-based inbound approach and a proactive, outreach-driven approach.How to balance and synchronize inbound and outbound activities...2024-11-1128 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevThe Mindset Shift: Avoiding Sales Stereotypes in Professional ServicesCoffee isn’t just for closers. Buyers can smell your commission breath.Good salespeople don’t have all the answers. In this episode, John and Mark bring on voices from other sales and marketing experts in the professional services realm. Featuring clips from Blair Enns, David C. Baker, Jason Mlicki and Jeff McKay, this episode explores the importance of mindset in developing new business:The significance of habit-building and mastery of both marketing and salesWhy it’s important to maintain a low self orientation and avoid selfishnessThe pitfalls of relying on RFPs and the benefits...2024-10-2833 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevWhy Don't Firms Believe in Lead Generation?Believe it or not, lead generation can actually work. Even for accounting, AEC, or consulting firms. In this episode, John and Mark break down the importance of lead generation, exploring why firms need to take it seriously beyond just waiting for RFPs. They highlight various lead sources, compare inbound and outbound strategies, and discuss effective multi-channel approaches. In this conversation, you’ll learn:How we define a “lead” in the context of a professional services firmWhy many expert firms don’t believe in generating leadsThe point in a firm’s growth cycle where firms explore lead generationVarious sources that have...2024-10-1432 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevBONUS: Go Behind the Scenes of Breaking BizDevGet a behind-the-scenes look at Breaking BizDev.In this episode, John and Mark pull back the curtain on the production process, the technology they utilize, and how they're building listener engagement. From their first episode to their vision for the future, you'll hear what has worked, what hasn't, and their plans moving forward.0:00 Intro1:50 Origin story10:40 Listener shout outs13:47 Top 3 episodes21:24 Experiment recap27:15 Future possibilitiesConnect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhwainwright/ Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntyreman/ 2024-10-0736 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevSuccession Planning: What's the Role of Sales and Marketing?Leadership transition is a major brand milestone and a cultural crossroads.So what role does sales and marketing play?In this episode, John and Mark explore how sales and marketing both support succession planning and leadership transition. In this conversation, you'll learn:Why it's important to expose young team members to sales and marketing early in their careersHow practice, failure, and learning play a pivotal role in developing the next generation's sales acumen and business skills.The impact of a firm’s marketing and branding strategy during leadership transitionsTechniques for democratizing expertise within the fi...2024-09-3025 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevMastering BizDev in Your Career: From Junior Practitioner to Managing PartnerThe role you play in developing new business changes as you grow throughout your career.Whether you're a junior practitioner, mid-career professional, or seasoned industry veteran, this episode is for you. John and Mark explore how firm employees—regardless of tenure—can (and should) contribute to developing new business. In this conversation, we cover:The importance of research and being exposed to BD processes early in professionals' careerBuilding peer-level relationships within client organizations for long-term success.Strategies for mid-career professionals to build their personal brands and engage in content creation.Mentoring the next generation by allowing them...2024-09-1631 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevPart 3. Contract Revenue Like a ProMitigate risk and navigate the contracting phase effortlesslyIn Part 3 of this deep dive into the "Create, Choreograph, Contract" framework, John and Mark break down what happens between a verbal agreement and a signed contract. They look at the emotional and practical aspects of risk in decision-making processes, how both clients and consultants can manage and mitigate uncertainties, and how to handle other parties like legal and finance in the contracting phase. In this conversation, you'll learn:How to manage and mitigate risk without dropping priceHow to understand—rather than handle—objections The importance of maintaining focus...2024-09-0638 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevPart 2. Choreograph Your Sales ActivitiesMake your sales process look effortless and feel frictionless.In Part 2 of their deep dive into the "Create, Choreograph, Contract" framework, Mark and John explore the importance of deliberate and structured interactions with buyers, like how mirroring and reflecting can establish trust, and how seeking permission at each step ensures both parties are aligned. In this conversation, you'll learn:The four essential stages of the sales process: qualification, discovery, recommendations, and negotiation, each with tailored strategies for success.The power of mirroring and reflecting through body language, words, and posture to create a comfortable rapport.How...2024-09-0549 minBreaking BizDevBreaking BizDevPart 1. Create New Business You Actually Want to WinYes, it is possible to get off the RFP hamster wheel. In Part 1 of their deep dive into the "Create, Choreograph, Contract" framework, John and Mark uncover the secrets behind creating the firm you want by breaking down different market segments, leveraging your network, and the power of proactive opportunity creation. In this conversation, you'll learn:The "iceberg" concept, which reveals a majority of potential clients are in the passive and status quo groups, offering hidden opportunities.How referrals from known individuals can accelerate trust-building and lead to quicker, more successful client acquisitions.Why developing account a...2024-09-0437 min